Lucid taking on AMG and winning. Now that's one for the books. I had already been biased when I saw it was Not the Air Sapphire going against the AMG...Boy was I wrong!! Great pairing on this U drag. Keep it up.
I have a set lucid factory 21s for sale if you are interested in testing with good tires. lucidowners.com/threads/21-inch-wheels-non-freshly-powder-coated.6589/
@@paganizondasroadster1660 Just getting a car to production is impressive...most automotive startups don't even make it this far. Then for Lucid's first vehicle to top the field in range and offer this level of performance, which exceeds that of manufacturers that have made cars for decades...it is quite an accomplishment.
@@paganizondasroadster1660 It's a heavy, four-door electric saloon, it's definitely not a track or race car. It just happens to be a very fast GT vehicle that can seat four or five in comfort while smoking most other four saloons as well as many ICE sport cars. The only reason it's not been better received is because Tesla achieved scale first and has been able to offer more performance at a much lower price point. But the Model S was similarly priced when it first launched. Lucid just arrived a bit too late to the party and is playing catchup. Lucid needs substantially more scale to drive down pricing, but to do that it's going to need a much larger volume platform. It's aiming at a moving target with Tesla because Tesla already has the scale, and it refining its products to achieve even greater efficiency, which gives it tremendous pricing advantage.
I have one with the 21s, just like almost all GTs that were sold. The handling is spectacular for a car of that weight. Lucid, of course, has faster and grippier versions of the car. This race was the standard Lucid GT (on the econo tires) vs. the AMG version of the EQS.
That's freakin hilarious! Lucid: Why are you running on those wheel? Edmunds: Because those are what was provided. Lucid: We have better wheels and tires for your performance runs. Edmunds: Great! Can we have some for our next test? Lucid: No.
I'm sorry, what??? You can literally take delivery of a Lucid GT with 21" sport wheels today if you want to! Head to their website, they have them in inventory for immediate delivery. Could @edmundscars not being completely honest with us and made the finish closer than it would have been if it was a fair comparison?
Interesting how Lucid gave Edmunds crap for running "crappier" tires but then when Edmunds tried to borrow the rims and tires Lucid said they should have used......they wouldn't lend them to Edmunds. Lol. Lucid better not do any complaining if they're not going to lend anything out.
@@mrb2349this is literally a lie.. 21s are in stock EVERYWHERE. why should edmunds be entitled to free summer tires if its THEIR car? if it was a press car, id understand.. maybe edmunds should quit the bias
You guys have cracked the code for making perfect content. I especially like repeating the races, and then the driver swap to remove driver error. I rather watch 5 races in a 10 minute video than 2 in a 20 minute video. It's brilliant.
Before watching- oh, good one. While I like the lucid..... a lot. I think the Benz's better brakes and ability to barrel around bends will bestow best place on the leader board. No, I am not sorry. Lol
Not easier to get from Lucid apparently. Lucid is like why are you racing it on those wheels and tires? Because that's what it came with. But we have much better wheels and tires for that! OK, Can we get some for another test? No. wtf Lucid? Someone responsible for promotion and marketing needs to be fired. 😂
I think the tires were what kept the Mercedes in it The Lucid Grand Touring isn't getting as aggressive a tire as the AMG Mercedes The Grand Touring is getting.......Touring tires. The AMG is getting a more performance-oriented setup, for handling and braking
The 19in rims are actually better for both acceleration and braking, because they have lower rotational inertia, so probably better overall for this test.
@norwegianblue2017 over 200000 miles on my c class and only replaced the power steering pump, and yes it was expensive , But that's the only mechanical issue it's had 😌😌
@@mryeahisaidit Every single person that I have known with German car has regretted buying one. VW, BMW and Audi are especially unreliable. The older Mercedes were good cars, I will give you that.
@@norwegianblue2017they're usually good til 60k. Around the time a lease ends. Otherwise they'll need a major tune up. That's words. That came from my cousin who works as a bmw tech. Also, my mk6 vw gti died. On me with 70k on the clock. I used to love. I used to love my 01 Mk4 GTI vr6. I put almost 170k on it before selling it and it was still running strong. Newer euro cars just aren't built the same anymore. . .
Go USA. It feels good to beat the Germans from time to time. We need to keep improving though...Especially with braking, interior design and just the looks overall.
Does the EQE have a range / HP vehicle that reaches the level of the Lucid Air Grand Touring? I'm sure Mercedes AMG could offer a higher spec'd vehicle that could match the Lucid, and with the long history of vehicle manufacturing could handily crush Lucid. However, I don't get the impression that that is the purpose of the EQE.
Glad to see Edmunds getting some heat for constantly sandbagging the Lucid with the econo tires, but just turn the TC down and skip the launch mode, assuming you can borrow a real driver.
what about the lucid air gt in the (old/classic) Nurburgring track ? it could have a good acceleration, but without a good setup, good tyres e perfect brakes, after the 3rd turn it is in the grass (like as tesla s plaid , they need the nurburgring/track setup/addon of over $18k to be ok)
The fact that the lucid didn't erase the EQE in either race is really disappointing. The EQE is heavier and slower and disgusts me on so many levels but I guess AMG did their magic with it.
Love U-drags. Such a great format! I will say though, EV’s are fast, but they present zero driving experience if you ask me. I actually enjoy driving, feathering the clutch and ripping through the gears and hearing that glorious exhaust note. It’s not always about the fastest car. Driving an EV is like driving a hurst.
EV cars at least in the UK have taken a massive hit in depreciation because the government have pushed the ICE cars ban from 2030 to 2035 and I for one am pleased. EV cars while a capable tool do nothing for me
Great race! Lucid and Tesla need to work on their suspension and braking power. There should be no reason why a >500hp car should have no Brembo/ carbon ceramic brakes as Standard. AMG has shown superiority in braking and cornering..but in the EV world, AMG doesn't have thesame star power. For me the AMG is not worth it. They can't 'tune' batteries 😅. @Jonathan: work on your reaction times. Lucid should have won all 3.
@4literv6 well, under repetitive use, the stock brakes will not be as good as Ceramic. This is a well known problem from a lot reviews... Maybe the additional $10k is a reason to stick with traditional brakes...but for piece of mind, I'll go Ceramic...What's the $10k if you are already spending well over a $100k. Just my opinion.
@@cisky1972 ceramics on a daily driver suck though. But for this level of performance more reliable fade free braking is a good idea. My point was 104' for something with 1,020hp and weighing 4,700# is damn good. A lucid air perf in comparison is 120'+ from 60mph.
@4literv6 very true. Perhaps, psychologically, I am sold on ceramics when it comes to high performance cars with a lot of mass. 5200 lbs and over 500 hp needs a lot of stopping power consistently.
The Lucid Sapphire would eat the Mercedes for lunch. 1234 BHP twice what the AMG has and sticky big rubber too. And the Sapphire has better suspension as well.
Yes M3 with 600 HP will also eat a man sprinting for lunch. Your comparison is on p much that level. Same HP German cars vs same HP american car will alwayes end one way. In embarrasing American car preformance
Not sure whats up with this video ? Never seen them give a vehicle a 2nd chance before. More like a tie. Edmunds you breaking your own rules? Don’t upset Lucid
The real performance can only be evaluated after a Nurburgring fast lab run. As proven The Tesla can't compete against Taycan without Heavy modification.
That EQS can't be had for that price anywhere in the US. It was 50 over sticker at launch and is still selling 15 over right now. My neighbor just bought one and had to wait 8 months and still paid over sticker
Did the results of this EV battle of all-around performance versus outright horsepower surprise you? Let us know in the comments.
Lucid taking on AMG and winning. Now that's one for the books. I had already been biased when I saw it was Not the Air Sapphire going against the AMG...Boy was I wrong!! Great pairing on this U drag. Keep it up.
I have a set lucid factory 21s for sale if you are interested in testing with good tires.
lucidowners.com/threads/21-inch-wheels-non-freshly-powder-coated.6589/
How about lucid sapphire vs tesla model s plaid and mercedes eqs vs bmw i7
@@Laura-sm6tx 1st place- Tesla.
2nd -Saphire
3rd - AMG
4th - I7
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Can't wait to see how the Lucid does with more rubber. Impressive first effort from the company.
What impressive about a car with more than 200hp than its competitors it would win. That lucid won’t do much against an e63s
@@paganizondasroadster1660 Just getting a car to production is impressive...most automotive startups don't even make it this far. Then for Lucid's first vehicle to top the field in range and offer this level of performance, which exceeds that of manufacturers that have made cars for decades...it is quite an accomplishment.
@@jghall00 looking at the video it’s not a good track or drag race car. One thing I love about lucid is how the designed the exterior front and rear.
@@paganizondasroadster1660 It's a heavy, four-door electric saloon, it's definitely not a track or race car. It just happens to be a very fast GT vehicle that can seat four or five in comfort while smoking most other four saloons as well as many ICE sport cars. The only reason it's not been better received is because Tesla achieved scale first and has been able to offer more performance at a much lower price point. But the Model S was similarly priced when it first launched. Lucid just arrived a bit too late to the party and is playing catchup. Lucid needs substantially more scale to drive down pricing, but to do that it's going to need a much larger volume platform. It's aiming at a moving target with Tesla because Tesla already has the scale, and it refining its products to achieve even greater efficiency, which gives it tremendous pricing advantage.
I have one with the 21s, just like almost all GTs that were sold. The handling is spectacular for a car of that weight. Lucid, of course, has faster and grippier versions of the car. This race was the standard Lucid GT (on the econo tires) vs. the AMG version of the EQS.
That's freakin hilarious!
Lucid: Why are you running on those wheel?
Edmunds: Because those are what was provided.
Lucid: We have better wheels and tires for your performance runs.
Edmunds: Great! Can we have some for our next test?
Lucid: No.
I'm sorry, what??? You can literally take delivery of a Lucid GT with 21" sport wheels today if you want to!
Head to their website, they have them in inventory for immediate delivery.
Could @edmundscars not being completely honest with us and made the finish closer than it would have been if it was a fair comparison?
I was gonna say, those are the 19" comfort/lux ride tires, not the 20" (better performance) or 21" summer performance tires
Keep pumping out these Udrags, super entertaining
I want more!! I love seeing the Lucid in action every time!
Interesting how Lucid gave Edmunds crap for running "crappier" tires but then when Edmunds tried to borrow the rims and tires Lucid said they should have used......they wouldn't lend them to Edmunds. Lol. Lucid better not do any complaining if they're not going to lend anything out.
😂😂😂
And that's the tea
Yeah, for a struggling startup, they really have their heads up their arse.
@@mrb2349this is literally a lie.. 21s are in stock EVERYWHERE. why should edmunds be entitled to free summer tires if its THEIR car? if it was a press car, id understand.. maybe edmunds should quit the bias
Need more udrag, amazing concept
That Lucid is incredible!
You guys have cracked the code for making perfect content. I especially like repeating the races, and then the driver swap to remove driver error. I rather watch 5 races in a 10 minute video than 2 in a 20 minute video. It's brilliant.
Idk about "Perfect" lol
I know why the Lucid won so handily on the third race!
The driver was 1000% better than the first two races.
Do some videos with the Model S Plaid Track Pack.
When it comes to a battle of looks... Theres no contest. That EQE is HIDDEOUS!
Excellent video, thank you for bringing it to us!
Our pleasure, glad you enjoyed!
Before watching- oh, good one.
While I like the lucid..... a lot. I think the Benz's better brakes and ability to barrel around bends will bestow best place on the leader board.
No, I am not sorry. Lol
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I was wrong.
Gotta get the model S plaid track pack against the lucid sapphire
Bigger sticky tires are easy to get. I am a GT owner and someone is always on a lucid forum selling OEM wheels and tires.
Not easier to get from Lucid apparently. Lucid is like why are you racing it on those wheels and tires? Because that's what it came with. But we have much better wheels and tires for that! OK, Can we get some for another test? No.
wtf Lucid? Someone responsible for promotion and marketing needs to be fired. 😂
Let's go LUCID LOLOLOL, Can't wait to see Sapphire content. My LAWD.
I think the tires were what kept the Mercedes in it
The Lucid Grand Touring isn't getting as aggressive a tire as the AMG Mercedes
The Grand Touring is getting.......Touring tires. The AMG is getting a more performance-oriented setup, for handling and braking
The rear view of the Lucid compared to the Mercedes makes the car look like it skipped leg day because of the skinny tires.
It really does lol, the EQE looks much better with the wide rubber
We need Model S Plaid with the track pack!
And a lucid air saphhire
Should try the model s long range
hey we told you to start making the ending drag races 1/2 mile long
EQE is such a beast on the suspension and breakes. True AMG
we have a lucid touring AWD as a rental earlier today... our Rivian in for wind noise repairs.. I'm odering a Lucid SUV if the company survives..
Would love to see the Lucid vs a Taycan
Those Lucid tires look so skinny in front of those wider Benz tires!
i love these videos. Great Work!
The EQS would’ve been a more accurate contender
The 19in rims are actually better for both acceleration and braking, because they have lower rotational inertia, so probably better overall for this test.
Mercedes did well considering being heavier down 202 hp and almost 200 tq.
The benz just makes the corner so smooth just needs more power
Overall Mercedes are always engineered better 😏 the germans always do a good job
Except when it comes to reliability and easy maintenance.
@norwegianblue2017 over 200000 miles on my c class and only replaced the power steering pump, and yes it was expensive , But that's the only mechanical issue it's had 😌😌
@@mryeahisaidit Every single person that I have known with German car has regretted buying one. VW, BMW and Audi are especially unreliable. The older Mercedes were good cars, I will give you that.
4 wheel steering also helps.
@@norwegianblue2017they're usually good til 60k. Around the time a lease ends. Otherwise they'll need a major tune up. That's words. That came from my cousin who works as a bmw tech. Also, my mk6 vw gti died. On me with 70k on the clock. I used to love. I used to love my 01 Mk4 GTI vr6. I put almost 170k on it before selling it and it was still running strong. Newer euro cars just aren't built the same anymore. . .
Need the Sapphire race
So your running the lucid on old tires? or are those a new set of the same type for this test?
Go lucid 👏
Go USA. It feels good to beat the Germans from time to time. We need to keep improving though...Especially with braking, interior design and just the looks overall.
Should get some pilot sport EV tires on the Lucid (or pilot sport 4S)
4:44. “ I over-shot a little bit…”
You missed the apex by 20 feet, at least.
Seriously, how did you get that job?
Wow those were some cool races.
After listening to Mark and Jack from SavageGeese talk about the Sapphire
Does the EQE have a range / HP vehicle that reaches the level of the Lucid Air Grand Touring? I'm sure Mercedes AMG could offer a higher spec'd vehicle that could match the Lucid, and with the long history of vehicle manufacturing could handily crush Lucid. However, I don't get the impression that that is the purpose of the EQE.
When you see the lucid gap the merc, then see the 675lt is 4 seconds faster than the lucid😮
Love your show. Please get a Porsche!! Would love to see the 911 Turbo S vs the GT3RS
Why do you guys show the end of the race as the first thing on the video? Kinda ruins it
Fun vid👌thanx guys👍
Glad to see Edmunds getting some heat for constantly sandbagging the Lucid with the econo tires, but just turn the TC down and skip the launch mode, assuming you can borrow a real driver.
what about the lucid air gt in the (old/classic) Nurburgring track ? it could have a good acceleration, but without a good setup, good tyres e perfect brakes, after the 3rd turn it is in the grass (like as tesla s plaid , they need the nurburgring/track setup/addon of over $18k to be ok)
Half battery left? Then wait a few hours to charge?
Would be fun to see the EV6 GT go against these and the non-plaid S.
The standard Model S Long Range runs a 10.8 at 128 quarter mile...is the EV6 GT in that same league?
And the EV6 GT has *far* better brakes, tires and handling. Is it enough to make up the power gap? Not sure.
@@ouch1011 far better? I would have thought a lower weight would have been the GT’s biggest advantage, but they weigh the same!
@@wesleywalls7582 obviously not but then even after tesla's recent price drops, it's still $25k more.
Test the new AMG GT
The more the lucid warms the tires the more it gets faster,thats pure racing prowess
Which car is worse in the turn: Lucid or Dodge Hellcat?
"This car feels so much slower" well a 200hp deficit will do that...
Sapphire vs. Plaid please
The fact that the lucid didn't erase the EQE in either race is really disappointing. The EQE is heavier and slower and disgusts me on so many levels but I guess AMG did their magic with it.
Probably down to the tires. Lucid is on the standard econo tires. Merc is on sportier, stickier tires. Really makes a difference.
Race after race we all know who is the better driver, by far!
Love U-drags. Such a great format! I will say though, EV’s are fast, but they present zero driving experience if you ask me. I actually enjoy driving, feathering the clutch and ripping through the gears and hearing that glorious exhaust note. It’s not always about the fastest car. Driving an EV is like driving a hurst.
There seems to be a consensus developing that the most fun you'll have driving a Lamborghini Huracan is also the slowest one, the "off-road" Sterrato.
EV cars at least in the UK have taken a massive hit in depreciation because the government have pushed the ICE cars ban from 2030 to 2035 and I for one am pleased. EV cars while a capable tool do nothing for me
Let's get the Model S Plaid in there. Call around and make it happen.
The Lucid Air should be compared to the EQS 53 or the i7 M70 !
I would love to see model s plaid and lucid
Lucid vs a model s plaid would be good to see.
Model s plaid vs lucid air sapphire
that mercedes was impressiv tho
both r fast but mecedes has much better performance in the u-turn ,,thats why it always goes ahead in the u-turn even it was behind before
Perfect
funny how Alistair gets car sick in a Tesla Model S Plaid but not in a Lucid or any other car with comparable power... lol
It's amazing how little difference there is between the two cars, even though the Lucid has over 400 horsepower more.
You need to recheck your math 😆. Lucid has 202hp more
USA beat germany love lucid
Great race! Lucid and Tesla need to work on their suspension and braking power. There should be no reason why a >500hp car should have no Brembo/ carbon ceramic brakes as Standard.
AMG has shown superiority in braking and cornering..but in the EV world, AMG doesn't have thesame star power. For me the AMG is not worth it. They can't 'tune' batteries 😅. @Jonathan: work on your reaction times. Lucid should have won all 3.
Stock iron brakes plaid stops from 60mph in 104' premium sedans are considered to be good under 120'
@4literv6 well, under repetitive use, the stock brakes will not be as good as Ceramic. This is a well known problem from a lot reviews... Maybe the additional $10k is a reason to stick with traditional brakes...but for piece of mind, I'll go Ceramic...What's the $10k if you are already spending well over a $100k. Just my opinion.
@@cisky1972 ceramics on a daily driver suck though. But for this level of performance more reliable fade free braking is a good idea.
My point was 104' for something with 1,020hp and weighing 4,700# is damn good. A lucid air perf in comparison is 120'+ from 60mph.
@4literv6 very true. Perhaps, psychologically, I am sold on ceramics when it comes to high performance cars with a lot of mass. 5200 lbs and over 500 hp needs a lot of stopping power consistently.
The Lucid Sapphire would eat the Mercedes for lunch. 1234 BHP twice what the AMG has and sticky big rubber too. And the Sapphire has better suspension as well.
Yes M3 with 600 HP will also eat a man sprinting for lunch. Your comparison is on p much that level. Same HP German cars vs same HP american car will alwayes end one way. In embarrasing American car preformance
Well... Lucid for me!!!
I would like to see a review and comparison of these cars beyond the U-drag. Is that coming?
U can see the Lucid in another Edmunds video where it was compared to the BMW. Great review IMO.
Impressive. But sterile. No soul. No rumble. No satisfying sounds. Just speed.
Not sure whats up with this video ? Never seen them give a vehicle a 2nd chance before. More like a tie. Edmunds you breaking your own rules? Don’t upset Lucid
Where is the Tesla Model S Plaid on your list?
did you use the launch control for lucid air or not?
Did you watch the video or not?
@lucid doesn’t sell their own wheels. I guess they don’t realize many owners keep summer and winter sets. #howlame 12:42
Lucid complains about the tire choice but won't provide you guys with a better tire...???....sounds legit, great job Lucid 🙃
Edmunds are lying. I had 19s on my touring and they got summer 21s in 2 days.
I want you guys to be the first to drag race that Electric Hellcat when it comes out
Sounds like two dueling fighter jets…
Ah, I see. So Lucid had their cake and it seems they wanted to eat it also.
Ten months later and they still haven't fixed the lucid tire problem. It will eat the Corvette on just regular tires. Get it done
@ 04:37 👀
Guy in grey is naturally terrible at the corners. Guy in red does pretty well
Couple of boats setting sail.
U know that eqs is the real equivalent to the lucid
Crazy to think that there's another luxury sedan that's much quicker than both and cheaper at the same time
The real performance can only be evaluated after a Nurburgring fast lab run.
As proven The Tesla can't compete against Taycan without Heavy modification.
Give me a break the lucid has more than 210hp than the Benz. Weigh 300 lbs less.
The lucid is no match for a c63s
The guy in Red shirt is a better driver
its complitelly 2 differnt cars
Nobody wants a family sedan super car. I market for it which is why both cars sales are bottoming out. Can’t give these cars away.
still waiting for the Fit Sport vs Mitsu Mirage... 🏁
Sapphire is insane. 1v1 with the Tesla tri motor raven? Also with its carbon ceramics
I would so turn off that 'AMG sound'
Guess Lucid is hoping TH-cam will fix its sales numbers.
Savage Geese and Edmunds putting out Lucid pieces at nearly the same time.
I'm hoping it to...
That Lucid is off the chain and thats not even the powerful Sapphire with 3 engines doing the quarter mile in 9 sec FLAT !
More power less sweet this is what happens. I don’t think it’s fair.
Thanks for nerfing the voice over.
American power!
LOL an EV6 GT trapping a higher speed than the top of the line AMG executive sedan. Sad 😂
That EQS can't be had for that price anywhere in the US. It was 50 over sticker at launch and is still selling 15 over right now. My neighbor just bought one and had to wait 8 months and still paid over sticker
WoW!!! 👏🏾👌🏾
I think in life there are more corners than straights... 🙄