Can KIA Dethrone Tesla? EV6 GT vs Tesla Model 3 vs Corvette | Drag Race, Roll Race, Brake Test!

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 540

  • @sking2173
    @sking2173 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Ten years ago I thought these EV’s were a fad. Five years ago, I realized that they were for real, but figured I’d never drive much less own one. Now, I’ve driven one, and if my wife gets her way, which she somehow normally does, we will be owning one …

    • @ballathug8404
      @ballathug8404 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Poor sob

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @jpmkiv
      @jpmkiv ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I sold my 95 tt Supra after getting one.
      Owning one changes things.
      Watch "who killed the electric car" on youtube for some more clarity..

    • @galactictomato1434
      @galactictomato1434 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@roboticvenom1935 He did use GT mode. Try actually watching the video next time.

    • @billm47645
      @billm47645 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly, me too….I’ve now owned my Model Y for a month now. Even took it on a short road trip. Two years ago I would have laughed if you told me I’d be driving one.

  • @ariiiiiiiiiiiii7356
    @ariiiiiiiiiiiii7356 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Kia really just woke up one day and decided to design a sick looking ev

    • @youngchirp12
      @youngchirp12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As long as you don't look at the back of it that s*** is ugly as hell The front of the EV6 is pretty this mean

    • @ELP1125
      @ELP1125 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's isn't a random thought

    • @donaldespeut2042
      @donaldespeut2042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ELP1125 If you want ugly buy a Muskmoblie. Otherwise known as the creepmobile.

  • @SoberinSeven
    @SoberinSeven ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Good fun video guys. I have a GT and it is such a joy to own. Don't hit the GT button much (actually, only to impress / shock my buddies) but the build quality, charging speed and practicality are off the charts. Turning circle isn't great with the massive wheels & tyres, but apart from that it is a truly amazing vehicle.

    • @brandoncarter2708
      @brandoncarter2708 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the range?

    • @michaelc2254
      @michaelc2254 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandoncarter2708I have one and the range is not nearly as low as the EPA rating of 206 miles. This evening I took a short drive, just charged it to 80%, and the projected range reading said 185 miles which equates to 231 miles on a full charge. It keeps getting better the more I drive it. I am getting 3.2-3.5 miles per kilowatt hour on every drive and that includes freeway driving. That equates to 240-270 miles range and I expect the projected range will reflect that shortly. I drive mostly in Normal mode which is around 430hp and is plenty fast. I use GT mode sparingly because it’s truly too darn fast for most driving. I never use Eco mode. The car is fantastic, I love it.

    • @stockey
      @stockey ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, you don't need to be stuck buying a Tesla anymore, there's better and cheaper EVs like this one out there.

    • @birk2
      @birk2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@stockey not cheaper tho..

    • @GamingTrivia1113
      @GamingTrivia1113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stockeyhonestly tesla only holds it's charging network as a advantage. As other manufactures build out their networks, I would take other manufacturers in a heartbeat.

  • @andrewmcmillan8110
    @andrewmcmillan8110 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You do realize you turned battery optimization off in the Kia AND the battery was not optimized. By the looks of it it was only putting out about 408KW instead of the 481KW/645hp that MPO puts out when complete.
    Also there’s plenty of videos of the Kia smoking the M3P

  • @curioussand1339
    @curioussand1339 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    SUGGESTION: For the brake test it would be informative to record the brake lights and then provide the difference in milliseconds from when the lights turn on. Knowing the speed it's easy to translate into distance and do the compensation. At 60 mph the difference measured (94.6 inches) corresponds to a difference of 90 ms.

    • @sciroccoR
      @sciroccoR ปีที่แล้ว

      wish i could give you multiple "thumbs up"

  • @gxlbiscuit
    @gxlbiscuit ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I think you should try the ev6 in level 1 or 0, the pedal response is dampened when at 3.. I have had an ev6 for a year (not a gt) Nice test though. Thanks guys!

    • @kurtmccann137
      @kurtmccann137 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      completely agree - you gotta know how to drive this car fast as well

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @galactictomato1434
      @galactictomato1434 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@roboticvenom1935 he did use GT mode. Try watching the video

    • @UnobtaniumsQuickReviews
      @UnobtaniumsQuickReviews ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roboticvenom1935 There is no launch mode

    • @moarpwr4414
      @moarpwr4414 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@galactictomato1434 he may be in GT mode, however the EV6 also has several drive modes that are in relation to the regen. Owning an EV6, granted not the GT I can tell you the vehicle is slower when the regen level is higher. To be optimal, you would be in level 0 regen and reduce the traction control as well for quickest acceleration.

  • @dalejones4322
    @dalejones4322 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Super fun guys. I always have a smile on my face watching these videos. Thanks so much for doing them

  • @madsdgdhg
    @madsdgdhg ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The Model Y would have lost both races.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @GvR927461057374
      @GvR927461057374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roboticvenom1935 lol I hope your day gets better

    • @galactictomato1434
      @galactictomato1434 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@roboticvenom1935 He used GT mode and Max Power Mode. Did you even watch the video 😂

    • @JAM_2024
      @JAM_2024 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@galactictomato1434he’d rather just keep crying about it

    • @letdothisman1139
      @letdothisman1139 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not running a 12s which the ev6 ran my model y runs 11.8s all day

  • @alanj7306
    @alanj7306 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I loved Roman cheating out there. That was pretty funny 😆

  • @cujet
    @cujet 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the way these EV's are developing into serious supercars. The new Model 3 Performance promises to be even faster than this generation, and the updated EV6 has somewhere around 650hp for a burst. Holy mother of god, what's not to love!!!

  • @ranig2848
    @ranig2848 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Great video! We need more EV to gas/diesel races. Most people don’t realize how CRAZY quick these EVs are. Would be great to also include Plaid if you can get some super cars 😂

    • @HDHQDIRECT
      @HDHQDIRECT ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Go watch Hagerty videos... They raced Plaid versus some cars....The lucid air sapphire beat it.

    • @dvader3263
      @dvader3263 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At $250,000 for the Lucid, it should.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dvader3263 they're way smaller then tesla as a company.

    • @ranig2848
      @ranig2848 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@roboticvenom1935 I believe he did but in any case, the M3P does 0-60 in 3.1s and EV6GT in 3.4s so EV6 would still lose. As for size, EV6 is between M3 and MY. It is smaller than MY in interior AND in cargo space. It's also shorter. MYP does 0-60 in 3.5s so very close and more about driver than car. Finally, the EV6GT range is just 206 miles range which is pathetic. The M3P has 315 mile range and MYP 303 mile range, so they're don't only have great performance but are also super useful for every day use and roadtrips. Having had ~200 mile EV, I would not recommend taking long road trips is only 206 mile range. That extra 100+ mile range makes a huge difference.

  • @Dreamweaver17
    @Dreamweaver17 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love these drag races, awesome job fellas!

  • @tmorcos21
    @tmorcos21 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why didn't you go with track mode on the model 3 performance?

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @racingthings
      @racingthings ปีที่แล้ว

      track mode is a little slower than sport at the low end.

  • @markspence3750
    @markspence3750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the "re-gen" test the most.... I wish you had an OBD-2 monitor that said exactly how much kWh you re-gened off that.

  • @alessiofabri
    @alessiofabri ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In the Tesla, you can just tap the miles, next to the batter icon, and it’ll toggle between mi and %. No need to go in the menu setting

    • @walex19
      @walex19 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol exactly

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @galactictomato1434
      @galactictomato1434 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@roboticvenom1935 he did use GT mode

    • @JAM_2024
      @JAM_2024 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@roboticvenom1935lots of crying.

    • @os2baba
      @os2baba ปีที่แล้ว

      That miles on the % toggle is garbage. That is the EPA mileage and complete BS. To get tge actual mileage, you have to go to the Energy app and look at the 30 minutes average. That's always lower and more realistic. I don't know why Tesla even displays the EPA estimated distance when it has the more accurate distance from the Energy app. Just display that.

  • @ricatiman
    @ricatiman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tell Roman a hand controlled start is done this way : at 3 - hands are open, and down at sides - then hands are raised to horizontal for 2, followed by hands are raised overhead for 3
    GO is sounded as the hands are then brought down with alacrity, concurrently. Easy for an acurate countdown and launch. Kia EV6 GT is my choice and fave...way,way nicer inside, and better built than those lesser brands you featured today.

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the heads-up!

  • @stockey
    @stockey ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Model Y is more appropriate for a drag race with the EV6 GT, presonally, i would take a Kia way before a Tesla, Kia has got a great build quality and warranty also cheaper in price compared to a Model Y.

    • @101053Mike
      @101053Mike ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was going to buy a Kia EV6 GT but at $64,000 vs the model 3 performance at $52,000 and then an additional $7500 tax rebate the decision was easy, the Kia is nice but not worth $20,000 more then the Model 3 performance

    • @stockey
      @stockey ปีที่แล้ว

      Tesla is lowering their car price, because they can't sell their cars, they loose money on each cars, they won't able to keep that.

    • @101053Mike
      @101053Mike ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stockey they are lowering they’re prices because the refresh is due out shortly and much of price change is so people can take advantage of the rebate, model 3 must be under $55k for the tax rebate.

    • @originaloffical
      @originaloffical 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a negative... ​@@stockey

  • @kman0074
    @kman0074 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tommmys reaction time was better on the launch and likely made a decent difference.

    • @Christri
      @Christri ปีที่แล้ว +11

      For the video but their timers confirmed the time and trap speed.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Christri he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @galactictomato1434
      @galactictomato1434 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@roboticvenom1935 keep spamming bro. He did use GT mode.

  • @ILOVEBACONBOY2018
    @ILOVEBACONBOY2018 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love these episodes, thanks guys!

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are most welcome

  • @Aizman87
    @Aizman87 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You should test both the koa and tesla with and without traction control etc. do several races and SHOW them so we can really see the result of several races..

  • @darknessislight3689
    @darknessislight3689 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    EV6 ❤

  • @steinmar2
    @steinmar2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you use trackmode for the tesla? I remember trackmode regen is even stronger

    • @johnross6314
      @johnross6314 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. They are cheater haters again. Nor did they condition the battery like the Korean Kia.

    • @johnross6314
      @johnross6314 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suspect their Tesla is NOT a real model Y

    • @johnross6314
      @johnross6314 ปีที่แล้ว

      They also had the regen set wrong on model Y. These guys over history have rigged tests across the old man’s TFL channels.

  • @douglasvieira1990dv
    @douglasvieira1990dv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The editing in this video was top notch. Thank you so much 🙏🙏

  • @jerz8289
    @jerz8289 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you did the regen test, did you put the M3P into track-race mode? That actually uses the most aggressive regen.

  • @aviyalproductions
    @aviyalproductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can say this no ev can replace the sound that engines make. That is music to my ears

  • @arenjay3278
    @arenjay3278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still remember the testing of the Subaru SVX noted for its bad brakes doing a test 60-0 mph in 99 feet. I never figured out how that was bad.

  • @NikSargent
    @NikSargent ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Loved that. That was the race all EV6GT owners wanted to see :-)
    Apparently regen in the GT can generate up to 0.6 G deceleration force. 350kw being sucked back up into the battery…

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @galactictomato1434
      @galactictomato1434 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@roboticvenom1935 he did use GT mode. How many time are you going to copy and paste your fake news comment 😂

    • @NikSargent
      @NikSargent ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roboticvenom1935 The main reason this test is purely for entertainment and not definitive, it is simply a sample of one. It means nothing. It needs lots more runs. Drivers should swap cars too.
      There is no reference to "launch mode" (launch control) in the manual I have searched. Essentially it is always there - makes sense, because max torque can be delivered at 0 RPM in an EV, unlike an ICE where you have to have some revs (and dump the clutch)
      At least they knew about max power preparation - most reviewers don't.
      Hopefully we all know the GT can go quicker than shown here - i've seen 0-60 runs at 3.3 seconds and 1/4 miles at 11.7

    • @SoberinSeven
      @SoberinSeven ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@roboticvenom1935 I have a GT. Gt mode is GT mode. There is no separate 'GT launch mode'

  • @PierreVilleneuve88
    @PierreVilleneuve88 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool test guys! The PZero are better tires, the braking test shows how great the GT is built and upgraded

  • @UnobtaniumsQuickReviews
    @UnobtaniumsQuickReviews ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The EV6 GT is traction limited. I swapped my tires to PSAS4's and ran 11.60@118.xx per Dragy. In 32*f weather. With the battery not even at optimal temp. You leave a lot on the table with the stock tires, it seems.

  • @ryandoyle4344
    @ryandoyle4344 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good information; Nice test!
    159m for EV6 at 83% (poss 170m);
    259m for M3P at 83%;
    149m for EV6 at 76%;
    243m for M3P at 78%.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV. Compaing model 3 ranges is silly

    • @galactictomato1434
      @galactictomato1434 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roboticvenom1935 he did use GT mode. Spam more fanboy

  • @Paravantos
    @Paravantos ปีที่แล้ว

    Did u pressed the GT /boost button on the Kia?

  • @browntoothpaste
    @browntoothpaste ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope they drop the price on the GT6. It would be a terrible thing if no one bought it bc it was so expensive and they drop the line.... @KiaAmerica

  • @LafemmebearMusic
    @LafemmebearMusic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    C8 yes!

  • @stockey
    @stockey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Ioniq6 N is better competitor to the Model 3 Performance.

  • @wwecallofduty123
    @wwecallofduty123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How come you didn’t use track mode on the tesla it allows you to configure more

    • @justrandomthings319
      @justrandomthings319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, that makes it slower.

    • @wwecallofduty123
      @wwecallofduty123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justrandomthings319 definitely not true but even if it was it shows more options for regenerative braking and it cools after every run which could have made it a little better. I don’t think there would have been a huge difference but I think it could’ve been used on some of the tests instead of acting like it doesn’t exist. To be clear I think the ev6 is amazing still I was just asking why they didn’t use track mode on the tesla.

    • @justrandomthings319
      @justrandomthings319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wwecallofduty123 The best thing to do is supercharge to 100% and before the run, precondition the battery by navigating to a supercharger. This will warm up the battery for peak performance. Track mode won't make it run as fast.

  • @jpmkiv
    @jpmkiv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3's most aggressive regen is in track mode. its .3g+ over .2..

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV. And why would you use track mode for the street, EV6 has this for its normal mode and has proper buttons and paddles on the steering wheel

    • @jpmkiv
      @jpmkiv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Robotic Venom it was a model 3, not y. Real world is real world. Launch mode is a useless redlight to redlight.

    • @jpmkiv
      @jpmkiv ปีที่แล้ว

      @Robotic Venom so track mode is a no but launch control is ok? Dude stop white knighting hyundai. It is fair normal user stuff we saw here. I own a hyundai, their evs are great but not Tesla level. Not to mention, the tesla is over 4 years old at this point..

    • @JAM_2024
      @JAM_2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpmkivhe’s a crybaby

  • @el.chepito1985
    @el.chepito1985 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I just did an 11.44 @119mph in my EV6 GT at Orlando speed world dragway last night.

    • @bigdi77
      @bigdi77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am getting 11.6 on winter tires easily on summer I 11.5

    • @klauskdk4125
      @klauskdk4125 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Full heated Model 3 Performance does 11.1-11.3 on the 1/4Mile ✌️

    • @bigdi77
      @bigdi77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@klauskdk4125 I wish they compared the model y performance which the ev6 compete with. I promise it will be a whole different story✌🏿

    • @el.chepito1985
      @el.chepito1985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@klauskdk4125 i didn't know about battery preconditioning. I should have done it on my run.

    • @haircafekevin
      @haircafekevin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Tesla Model 3 performance is not a faster car than the Kia ev6 gt. For some reason these drag race times on TH-cam have been crap. 12 flag in an ev6 gt is pathetic, I have seen 11.4 in an ev6 gt. Best time I have seen in a Model 3 performance is 11.6

  • @nomore5speed
    @nomore5speed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Vette embarrassing losing drag race was just as bad as when the Buick V6 grand national was faster than the Vette's at the time with massive cubic inches and liters bigger than a caterpillar engine.

  • @JK-ee4ez
    @JK-ee4ez 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video gents! Both fun and yet informative! As a Vette owner I always thought ICE is the ultimate until I see how EV tech has becoming. Can't wait to see how EV going to become in next 10+ years

  • @Visualhead_Spacer
    @Visualhead_Spacer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MY3 is slightly faster because its lighter in weight. EV6 GT also has bigger wheels, much heavier. Its more of a wagon/hatch than a sedan.

  • @ectofix8447
    @ectofix8447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roman..Roman.
    Normally one would say, _"I never expected THAT ending."_ In YOUR case though, we can say, _"I never expected THAT BEGINNING."_
    That was hilarious!

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roman says thanks!

  • @jsco8692
    @jsco8692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've enjoyed seeing the evolution, maturity, unyielding enthusiasm, and effort TFL puts into making these. Thank you!

  • @mitchellpritsker448
    @mitchellpritsker448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s hard to tell which electric vehicle is faster the Kia EV six GT versus the Tesla model three performance but I think they’re both faster. And Roman has the old-school Corvette.

  • @poseyperspective3591
    @poseyperspective3591 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you and anytime you need another model 3 p to test out I’m just down the road!

  • @srehmat02
    @srehmat02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that there is truly a competitor to the M3P performance wise, but the range is abysmal, imagine colder temperatures in winter plus driving ~80mph, which is more realistic in CA, you would get be lucky to get 160 miles per charge, M3P in these conditions would at least give an additional 50 miles or more.

    • @xacib09921
      @xacib09921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Driving the speed limit or even 5 below (so around 60-65). Range is fine and will get the full 200 miles if you aren't going through several inclines. A lot of GT drivers are reporting 240+ with mixed highway and city

  • @jimmykelly2809
    @jimmykelly2809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do you guys say you get tunnel vision? I keep hearing that. Is that because you’re sitting in a car in a leaned back position? I do low 10’s on my Busa and I don’t get tunnel vision at all

  • @CrumResearch
    @CrumResearch ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good selection of used Model 3s (including Performance) these days, all with good FSD computer hardware included

    • @jghall00
      @jghall00 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I saw one nearby for 35K yesterday. But it's so hard to pull the trigger now with the car everywhere.

    • @CrumResearch
      @CrumResearch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jghall00 This will be fun to see mass production bring down prices even more, and hopefully for Cybertruck as well in the not-to-distant future. Rental cars too, some even have FSD enabled already.

    • @jghall00
      @jghall00 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CrumResearch Not a fan of FSD, as I think Tesla has grossly overstated its capability. But agree about mass production lowering prices. I consistently see people complain about EV prices. But car prices in general are high and mass production takes time to reduce costs. I remember thinking I so cool when I bought a 19-inch CRT, now we have 34" ultra-wide flat. People are impatient or lack historical awareness. Can't wait for the day when I can replace my Expedition with an EV that can tow my camper.

    • @CrumResearch
      @CrumResearch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jghall00 Check out recent evolution of FSD. Lookin' good, especially safe and good at seeing and avoiding all sorts of obstacles. It's happenin' and FSD should be a good proof of concept for other projects to compete, even open source like Openpilot.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

  • @gbw28
    @gbw28 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the outro 👍😊

  • @michaelc2254
    @michaelc2254 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you slow it down, the Kia just edged the Tesla in the roll race.

    • @thedumbconspirator4956
      @thedumbconspirator4956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well it seems that way because the camera was on the Kia's side so the kia appeared bigger and appeared to finish first.

    • @michaelc2254
      @michaelc2254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedumbconspirator4956At 6:52-6.53 slowed down it looks like the back of the Kia is ahead, but it hardly matters - they’re extremely close. I think in any real-world encounter between the two whoever hits the accelerator first will take it.

  • @musclecarfan74
    @musclecarfan74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tommy messed up he was in the Tesla, and said his car had less power than the Tesla.

  • @miccande
    @miccande ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy. Is there a reason you guys didn’t use Track mode?

  • @robertjohnson4784
    @robertjohnson4784 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey guys I just seen the E V6 Kia in person and it's an incredible car a little sticker shock 63000 but between Hyundai and Kia they are catching up and building really nice cars

    • @devinmurray5280
      @devinmurray5280 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      63k for manual seats and a sub 200 mile range.

    • @alohaduck3530
      @alohaduck3530 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@devinmurray5280 And you think that Tesla model 3 Performance actually gets 315 miles as stated on paper? Dream on... Real world is also in the low 200s for the M3P, charges slower, not built as well and is an appliance on wheels.
      If anything, the price for a better built car like the KIA GT is more justifiable than the kit cars tesla offers.
      We own a M3P, and Model X. No strangers to Tesla, just not the typical petty tesla fan boy owners here. Just keeping it straight and real.

    • @devinmurray5280
      @devinmurray5280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alohaduck3530 real world on the highway locked 70 is about 280 max (with the same useable battery size). Also handles much better as it weighs about 500-800lbs less. Realistically I expect about 250 driving normal (I own one lol).
      Chargers slower…if you can find a charger that supports the Kias speeds. Tesla chargers are just beginning to make the EV charging outside tesla not a pain for a trip. They don’t support those high high of speeds currently.
      It’s not being a fanboy in any regard. The model 3 performance is also 9k less expensive. The little straw man case isn’t helping you either.
      Yes the 63k is justified if you ignore the massively lower range than the competition and manual seats in a 63k crossover lol. Kia is trying, but they aren’t quite there yet.

    • @alohaduck3530
      @alohaduck3530 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@devinmurray5280 , You must be a slow driver. Which is fine, but as a M3P owner myself as well who drives not pegged at the speed limit, I'm in the low 200s.
      Both the M3P and GT would be making the same stops to charge, real world, unless you treat your M3P like an LFP and beat the battery from 100-0%.
      The greater point that you're missing is that the GT has a smaller battery, heavier, larger 21x wheels and yet it's still able to dial in ~220 miles and some change.
      When considering that normal EV habits is to keep it within 80-20%, counting beans between the GT and MYPs (even M3Ps) range is irrelevant as the bigger point here should be obvious.
      Most enthusiasts would take faster charging speeds over some range any day. To each their own, but as a fellow tesla owner, please don't try to glorify our poorly built appliance on wheels like it's anything spectacular. Let's keep it real.
      Tesla does have the best UI, driving dynamics and infrastructure, but other EVs also have good driving dynamics... Just not the other two with the UI and overall infrastructure, however; with the new tesla chargers w/ CSS becoming more available, it's helping with the poor CCS infrastructure currently.

    • @Schnitz9
      @Schnitz9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @devonmurray5280 Oh boy! Seeing as I just dumped the worst vehicle I've ever owned in over 30 years - Tesla Model Y LR AWD.
      My EV6 is light years ahead in terms of build quality, ride quality, interior design and driving experience.
      No squeaky panels, the springs & struts are perfectly matched, Alcantara seating, Carplay, Android Auto, satellite radio, ambient lighting, no phantom breaking, cruise control works perfectly.
      I suggest you educate yourself before typing.
      Who cares about charging infrastructure? Who buys an EV without a home charger? 18 months of ownership of the garbage Y and I used a Supercharger 6 times. It's a non-issue.
      And if manual seats is a real issue for you, you have bigger issues to deal with.

  • @stefansorensen1218
    @stefansorensen1218 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do an EV6 GT vs Model Y performance, since those are more "rivals" than the 3 and EV6 🎉

    • @stockey
      @stockey ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, the Model Y is the real competitor to the EV6.

  • @Pete_Finch
    @Pete_Finch ปีที่แล้ว

    There's gotta be some way at least to resurface the huge cracks in that runway with some crack sealant - limit the squeaks and rattles that hitting those bumps at high speed are causing on every run. When I used to drag race, there was nothing worse for the car's interior than going down a poorly paved/sealed surface

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Unless you were in the Track Mode in the Tesla you weren’t in the “Max Regen” mode. Track Mode has a much more aggressive regen mode.

  • @Uptownv
    @Uptownv ปีที่แล้ว

    Interior with the buckets and black headliner is stunning in the Kia. Tesla needs to step their interior game up.

  • @bozzo651
    @bozzo651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting for this race forever. I would have preferred the model Y because I like apples to apples for competition. Now quick question: What does the high altitude have to do with the influence on the cars?

    • @johnross6314
      @johnross6314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was rigged race. I suspect this is NOT a model Y P. There is NO track mode which is much faster for variety of reasons.

    • @navib4521
      @navib4521 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnross6314we know it’s not a model Y performance but good observation nonetheless.

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👏👏👏 LOVE THE SHOW 👏👏👏 ... HAVE A BEAUTIFUL THURSDAY EVERYONE ✌️

  • @ErikHarris
    @ErikHarris ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Kia did better than I expected. It's fantastic to finally see a few EVs that can legitimately compete with Tesla on multiple points.
    Now if only EA could keep its CCS fast charging stations working, and not bricking vehicles from time to time. :(

  • @haircafekevin
    @haircafekevin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The ev6 gt is a faster car than the Tesla Model 3 performance.
    Fastest time I have seen a model 3 performance run is 11.6
    I have seen 11.4 for the ev6 gt.

    • @linkk161
      @linkk161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah that’s before the model 3 got a power increase. They easily run low 11s now

  • @billm47645
    @billm47645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Tesla Regen gets stronger the lower the battery gets. My model Y typically shows limited Regen above 80% state of charge.

    • @letdothisman1139
      @letdothisman1139 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts they made a 576 hp kia to barely beat a model y performance years later model y been doing this for years wait till Elon puts the power bump on the model y

    • @billm47645
      @billm47645 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@letdothisman1139 These cars are so fast, that to be quite frank, they are borderline too fast for the average driver. I’ve startled my father in law, my wife, and even my dog looked at me once when I was accelerating through a yellow light. Even in “chill mode” the car is faster than many ICE vehicles. 10ths of second are drag strip bragging rights.

  • @farmdutymotorman
    @farmdutymotorman ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my EV6! I have had it for six months now and will never go back to a gas powered car again! Only thing that sucks is it doesn’t qualify for the $7,500 tax credit.

  • @Cruor34
    @Cruor34 ปีที่แล้ว

    People keep saying Tesla Model 3 Performance has these weak HP/T numbers (vs other EVs) but it beats things that have much higher listed numbers, like the Kia EV6 GT and the Mach E GT, and it loses to things like the 140k Audi E Tron by like 1/2 a car length, so either Tesla is understating, others are over stating, or Tesla just has much better use of the power. Not sure which it is.

  • @trell1011
    @trell1011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why not the model y which would be SUV vs SUV

    • @trell1011
      @trell1011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cheesey way to give the edge to Tesla

    • @HDHQDIRECT
      @HDHQDIRECT ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@trell1011 but it wasn't..😂

    • @trell1011
      @trell1011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HDHQDIRECT You are comparing a SUV to a car how is that not chessey?

    • @toddgilmore8242
      @toddgilmore8242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ev6 isn’t an SUV

    • @trell1011
      @trell1011 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toddgilmore8242 Crossover/SUV/ CUV same thing its still not a car.

  • @abc123fhdi
    @abc123fhdi ปีที่แล้ว

    Need overhead drone shot for second race to see if it's a tie, basically down to the driver.

  • @Ancho1987jaja
    @Ancho1987jaja ปีที่แล้ว

    You should test coasting length

  • @jhl2783
    @jhl2783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regen test means a lot!!

  • @newscoulomb3705
    @newscoulomb3705 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Should have brought an E-Ray... 😀

  • @netgnostic1627
    @netgnostic1627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys should try to find an EV-converted 'Vette to race against.

  • @Wirmish
    @Wirmish ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tesla guy: _'Fast, more efficient, better autonomy, ultra safe, high-tech, Supercharger network, made in the USA, cheaper.'_
    EV6 guy: _"I like the more special look."_

    • @memonk11
      @memonk11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Build quality?

  • @FrEaKaCcIdEnT
    @FrEaKaCcIdEnT ปีที่แล้ว

    That Tesla has a stronger regen mode. Track mode regen is much stronger than regular. Also, if you turn off Object Avoidance Acceleration, you will get closer to 11.5 - 11.7 1/4 mile at 120+mph.

  • @henrycruz45cal
    @henrycruz45cal ปีที่แล้ว

    That was good fun. Thanks!

  • @johnjohn3241
    @johnjohn3241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, Model 3 doing great for a 6 year old car.

  • @gastoche
    @gastoche ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved that 🏁

  • @EnriqueRodriguez-ht9fz
    @EnriqueRodriguez-ht9fz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gt mode puts all the power to the rear wheels defeats the awd so unfair race

  • @Longsnowsm
    @Longsnowsm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see Kia dishing it up against the Tesla. Tesla is yawn in appearance and appeal. Kia/Hyundai are bringing interesting designs. I think I still prefer the form and function of the Ioniq 5 best so far. Looking forward to seeing more of the competition step it up and start pushing Tesla's buttons... or lack there of...

  • @smoot96
    @smoot96 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i shed a tear when i saw the range estimate at 83%

  • @drabon1970
    @drabon1970 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The interior on the EV6 is on another level, as is the exterior styling. Tesla is too focused on being different as well as cutting costs that it’s cost them. Tesla powertrain is still tops, as is their battery tech. The model is in need of an extensive overhaul, hopefully the soon to be released refresh is substantial.

    • @Migus29
      @Migus29 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all about cost in the end

    • @ItsBinhRepaired
      @ItsBinhRepaired ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You want them to add random styling stuff that hurts aerodynamics so it can look nicer? Lol Why don't you just modify it and not make every car they make less efficient? They're going for a sustainable future.

  • @HygienistDentist
    @HygienistDentist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great new competitions

  • @WillPittenger
    @WillPittenger ปีที่แล้ว

    The Corvettes that would've had a chance? The C8 Z06 and eRay.

  • @jeffrey88888
    @jeffrey88888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kia is actually building an EV plant in the US in Georgia. You will be able to get a tax credit soon.

    • @29pcs
      @29pcs ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm never buying racist Korean cars.

  • @ChrisandKnight
    @ChrisandKnight ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If the Kia GT range wasn't around 200 miles (175-180 realistic) it would be a good option. But unfortunately that's unusable. The normal EV6 range however is great.

    • @Yubuzka3774
      @Yubuzka3774 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Owners of the GT have been getting much better actual range than the official number. Kia is conservative with its numbers

    • @ChrisandKnight
      @ChrisandKnight ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Yubuzka3774 that's good to know, I'm not hating the EV6 is awesome. I drive 4000 miles a month so it's my problem lol

  • @bigdi77
    @bigdi77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Need to turn off the regen on the ev6 big difference

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

  • @Lancelotopus
    @Lancelotopus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Kia EV6 GT is slightly faster than the model 3 performance and the model y is 400lbs heavier than the model 3, so it is also slower than the ev6 gt. Hyundai Ionic 5N is also faster than all the tesla variants besides the 100k+ plaid.

  • @TheEvilJarrad
    @TheEvilJarrad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an owner of a Model 3 performance I bought to take to the track on weekends, once the novelty wore off after 2 years I wanted something nicer, that EV6 GT is in every regard a better daily car regardless of it's slightly less impressive acceleration, it's on my radar to replace my 3 soon after driving one.

    • @racingthings
      @racingthings ปีที่แล้ว

      how's the stereo in the Kia though? It's my favorite part of the M3P

  • @dowhill1956
    @dowhill1956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EV 6 GT= 9K more with no tax incentive. Non starter.

  • @duramaxadventures5832
    @duramaxadventures5832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do 100mph braking test. more realistic for performance cars.

  • @gadgetmantwincities
    @gadgetmantwincities ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys have such fun wile working🤠

  • @takforce06
    @takforce06 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Base c5 was 13-13.5s @ 108mph in the 1/4.
    No chance against evs at a mile above sea level or at sea level.

  • @wilfredotorres104
    @wilfredotorres104 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kia is killing the competition

  • @pinchers1
    @pinchers1 ปีที่แล้ว

    would like to see best 2 of 3 when you do thje drag race

  • @toddaulner5393
    @toddaulner5393 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is funny to me they had to use engine noise added at the finish line.

  • @bigdi77
    @bigdi77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    low 12s I am pulling 11.6 11.5 on my draggy. hell a stinger can pull a 12.8

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he didn't use GT launch mode on the EV6GT hence the poor start, it runs a faster quarter mile then model y. these guys are rather clueless, and then they downplayed the fact that the EV6 competes MORE closely with the model Y, obviously., yet they still attempted to compare pricing, what a stupid futile effort, the hyundai ioniq 6 sedan competes with the model 3 not the EV6 massive hatch/SUV.

    • @bigdi77
      @bigdi77 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roboticvenom1935 also the battery was not optimized if you look at the video the battery gauge was not at max

  • @andysupple4838
    @andysupple4838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, however drive all 3 cars from Boulder to Los Angeles at posted speed and the Corvette will arrive first! And by a good margin

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  ปีที่แล้ว

      True that

    • @tewest86
      @tewest86 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok. You arrive maybe 30-45 minutes earlier. Then what?

    • @DickGazInYa
      @DickGazInYa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tewest86 Bang the wife?

  • @LifeBeginsOnTheWater
    @LifeBeginsOnTheWater ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great races & content guys! Thanks for sharing. Roman got smoked for sure 😂🤪🤣😜
    Billy D

  • @dieselmoser
    @dieselmoser ปีที่แล้ว

    These new electric cars might be fast but I love my Corvettes!!!!!

  • @sharkey6904
    @sharkey6904 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fun day at the office!

  • @psewgobind
    @psewgobind ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm waiting for the 2023 Elantra N vs Type-R with Paul.

  • @Johno144
    @Johno144 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not use the track mode in the Tesla. Makes a big difference

    • @racingthings
      @racingthings ปีที่แล้ว

      it's a little bit slower in track mode and drains the battery faster.

  • @starshipdriver8536
    @starshipdriver8536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Refresh Model 3/Y will bring better performance.