Post Office Inquiry: Ex-investigator insists wrongly convicted victim still guilty

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  • @darrensutton5940
    @darrensutton5940 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +461

    I am impressed by his level of sheer arrogance and utter contempt for these proceedings.

    • @raphaelandrews3617
      @raphaelandrews3617 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      YES, racism . IF all the victims were white and English he would have different reaction. He makes great claims about his charity work and how he is Christian but does not know the story of the Good Samaritan.

    • @FrankVimpany
      @FrankVimpany 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This guy should be investigated for perjury harping on about his charity work that's a guilt complex ,dog

    • @ketmaniac
      @ketmaniac 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@raphaelandrews3617 I believe Mr Grant is Scottish, not English. I don't know whether that would change your beliefs about what he would or wouldn't have done.

    • @duncansteward4331
      @duncansteward4331 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      He represents a poor example of Scotland.

    • @Summitic
      @Summitic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He will most probably be sued by William Quarm and taught a lesson !

  • @patrickj4747
    @patrickj4747 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

    I'd like to say I think Mr. Grant had a role in the theft of funds from the sub-postmasters and the subsequent cover up.

  • @reduk1999
    @reduk1999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

    No shame or empathy for the real victims of injustice

    • @NigelCopy
      @NigelCopy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But he apologised at the end and seemed sincere.

    • @petergaskin1811
      @petergaskin1811 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NigelCopy Seemed.

    • @wickedwitchoftheeast88
      @wickedwitchoftheeast88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NigelCopy He's about as genuine as Geri Halliwell's ginger hair!

    • @jj4485-o5o
      @jj4485-o5o 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Moron​@@NigelCopy

  • @rickhall9026
    @rickhall9026 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    What an arrogant weasel... Only complying with the court and inquiry because he was forced to

  • @doghouseriley4732
    @doghouseriley4732 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    I think that this man should not be involved in providing any "help" to any vulnerable people. He appears to have little or no empathy for the common man. And no understanding in the role he played in this sorry state of affairs.

    • @James333-n2q
      @James333-n2q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He shouldn’t be anywhere near anyone let alone the vulnerable in society. Compassion is not his strong point.

  • @josephpalla3294
    @josephpalla3294 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +301

    This man should be sued and thrown in jail

    • @Mariemancin
      @Mariemancin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes

    • @josephkerrigan733
      @josephkerrigan733 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Should be, but won't be. They'll all get away with it and it'll be tied up as "something we must learn from in the future".

    • @JacintasChromebook
      @JacintasChromebook 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont know I think some of these lower down managers might end up in jail@@josephkerrigan733

    • @janhwillems10000
      @janhwillems10000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed, and that will cost us dearly. @@josephkerrigan733

    • @natalied9022
      @natalied9022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So, Is the word "sorry" the new way to avoid a criminal conviction and jail time?.I doubt if the post master said Sorry. For something they didn't even do, if this wld habe meant no jail time or no fines and no lives being ruined?.

  • @DerrickJenkins-s6c
    @DerrickJenkins-s6c 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +382

    I love that: 'now carol services and dog-walking are out of the way.' Brilliant!

    • @misterbonzoid5623
      @misterbonzoid5623 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      He's brilliant isn't he?

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Best line ever.

    • @SuedeNymme
      @SuedeNymme 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I love the quick=witted snark from Mr Beer KC

    • @Richard500
      @Richard500 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He's trying to highlight his so-called Christianity

    • @memyself717
      @memyself717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That is god level shade

  • @otterspocket2826
    @otterspocket2826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +387

    I can't help but feel that Mr Grant is the real victim in all of this. Having to write a brief statement about his part in sending innocent people to prison, ruining reputations and lives, must've put quite a damper on his Xmas.
    Oh, the humanity...

    • @carlosgregorius9419
      @carlosgregorius9419 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      So true. I see it too.
      On another note I’d hate to be in his Christian care home when some teabags go missing

    • @loopwithers
      @loopwithers 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Indeed. Yet his weeping pleas about his upstanding religious morality do concern me. It appears that God doesn't particularly like him

    • @nicholasdickens2801
      @nicholasdickens2801 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂 Lol

    • @grangerover500
      @grangerover500 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@carlosgregorius9419 😆

    • @joerudnik9290
      @joerudnik9290 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hilarious 😂!!

  • @pillowcase2006
    @pillowcase2006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    He has zero law enforcement training, but he has the ego to presume he is able to deduce someone has committed an offence. People who are guilty are adjudicated innocent all the time and vice versa. It does not change the tapestry of reality. This man acted as judge jury and executioner and now is responsible for the safety and care of people with nothing...
    This doesnt sit well with me.

  • @geoffcurrie5508
    @geoffcurrie5508 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Does Mr. Grant think he himself should be in prison after what he has done? I do!!!

  • @JustAlanJohn
    @JustAlanJohn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +376

    Calling himself a Christain what a load of rubbish total hogwash.

    • @LearnSciSnippets
      @LearnSciSnippets 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Just an excuse to get out of appearing. Backfired when the sheriffs knocked on his door.

    • @MobiusVideo
      @MobiusVideo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      As we’ve seen time and time again: Christian ≠ good. People can do good and bad things regardless of their beliefs.

    • @chronicmasonic6669
      @chronicmasonic6669 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Look at Paula Vennels she's a Pastor..wtaf.. I always find the dodgy ones are dropping religious vibes

    • @travelalldestinytours
      @travelalldestinytours 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They are all deceivers, and their actions will return to them; this is known as karma.

    • @derekmclean5603
      @derekmclean5603 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another evangelical Christian boasting about his righteousness to anyone who would listen but has a cruel, wicked, black heart. No empathy, no sympathy, no compassion. Despicable human being.

  • @rockallmusic
    @rockallmusic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    "I haven't had any time to review the case. I've never seen the evidential documents. I can't remember what happened 16 years ago. But I still want to make it a matter of public record that I think the Postmaster is guilty anyway."

    • @JoeRichardsWells
      @JoeRichardsWells 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes, this!

    • @johnclarke-vs9qe
      @johnclarke-vs9qe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Well summed up, shocking!

    • @dcvariousvids8082
      @dcvariousvids8082 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      So let me get this straight. He’s saying he wasn’t incorrect then and he’s not incorrect now. He’s only attending the enquiry, as he was legally forced to… and his time would be better spent walking some dogs and making sure carols are sang at Christmas.

    • @martinturvey5057
      @martinturvey5057 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      . Incredulous

  • @mikeellis4345
    @mikeellis4345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    He’s only sorry he’s been exposed and then forcibly held to account in this hearing.

  • @jimmyccam
    @jimmyccam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +202

    Such arrogance should be rewarded with a brief spell of jail time, for contempt of court.

  • @jimrt1738
    @jimrt1738 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    This man wants to be excused because he as to much on and he is a christian but did he give the postmasters the same dignity,NO.Shame on him.

  • @MarkReynolds-c2o
    @MarkReynolds-c2o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    What a total despicable person who went on to say that the PO had let them down and the postmaster/mistress but was happy to say earlier that he still believes the postmaster he investigated was still guilty, even over he was later cleared.

  • @zetectic7968
    @zetectic7968 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Self-serving personal statement. No remorse for his flawed actions to convict people.

  • @iansmejkal8055
    @iansmejkal8055 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    He needs to be charged and put in jail!

  • @delboyd72
    @delboyd72 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Gross negligence and incompetence by the investigators

  • @elgar104
    @elgar104 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    Yet another humble bragging Christian who seems to think simply labeling as religious will distract from his fundamental lack of ethics and morality.
    A lack that isn't just historical but manifests to this day in his misdirection of guilt up the chain and lack of respect for the court and his obligations to it.

    • @34pessimistic
      @34pessimistic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The level of disconnect with ‘dirty deeds’ is entirely consistent with Christian behaviour

    • @paulrichards6894
      @paulrichards6894 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@34pessimistic 4 out of the 5 Christians I knew all spent a period of time at her majesties pleasure

  • @Matman2099
    @Matman2099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    the arrogance of this man is astonishing!

  • @applepie8772
    @applepie8772 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    They know no shame.

  • @abumstead1219
    @abumstead1219 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    This guy was negligent in his investigation. He failed in his responsibility to investigate ALL aspects of how the the shortages had occurred. As we now know there were glitches in the Horizon computer systems with the effect that ALL SPMs were wrongly convicted of taking money when in fact it was the glitches that “took” the money. All his evidence is tainted by his and the PO’s failure to investigate what in fact the PO and Fujitsu have known for many many years.

    • @alansharman3644
      @alansharman3644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      of course he didnt do all aspects of the investigations if he had he would have lost his bonus payout

    • @garylake1676
      @garylake1676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The recurring theme, is one of a very fractured organisation where just enough was the amount of effort expended by just about everyone who has been interviewed thus far

    • @WELLBRAN
      @WELLBRAN 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But he still thinks the postmaster is guilty...his "opinion" is better than the supreme courts judgment ....amazing logic

  • @neonwind
    @neonwind 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Time for arrests of those involved in the cover up/deception.

  • @emmaturner2558
    @emmaturner2558 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Imagine that - being forced to answer questions about your conduct that sent people to prison.

    • @WELLBRAN
      @WELLBRAN 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes and not giving 2 hoots about it ..none of these morons show any sign of emotion at all

  • @thecritic81
    @thecritic81 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Poor poor man. Image he was awestruck when Sheriff's officers turned up at hid door

    • @LearnSciSnippets
      @LearnSciSnippets 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We know from testimony how the sub-post office masters felt when POL knocked on their door to find "evidence"

  • @kevdeburgh
    @kevdeburgh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    This bloke is a complete wrong un......

  • @harrish6
    @harrish6 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    This guy starts off excusing himself from clearly his higher responsibilities by professing his dedication to his present involvement with his work with homeless people. Not forgetting to tell the enquiry of it's religious connections and his personal dedication to these people and the personal dignity they deserve.
    Listening to some of his answers to questions put to him by Mr Beer raises some question of hypocrisy as well as an air of victimhood

    • @fgrsimon
      @fgrsimon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah and the dog ate his homework etc etc

  • @philipmoss6188
    @philipmoss6188 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Put Grant in jail....lies upon lies upon lies

  • @grahamlong6870
    @grahamlong6870 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Doing a Pontius Pilate in my opinion! Washing his hands over his own deeds, but still sending an innocent person to be crucified, and still saying that the postmaster was guilty.
    If I had any inclination to be religious, this guy would change my mind in an instant!

  • @reddwarf666
    @reddwarf666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Classic...
    The conflicted statements:
    * I am convinced the person who is acquitted is still guilty
    * Yet I was lied to and did not have all the information
    And then the effort to paint himself as a 'victim' via fake emotions:
    * I want to take this time to offer my sympathies to all involved
    * This isn't easy for me and my family either
    The arrogance and sociopath tendencies are rife with this sorry excuse for a human being...

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Truly noxious.

    • @alansharman3644
      @alansharman3644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      he seems to be part of a bigger group of sorry excuses So far from what ive watched there has only been one witness i can believe and thats the whistle blower. the rest can rot in jail

    • @Preston78-44
      @Preston78-44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Check his bank 😬

  • @fusionfan6883
    @fusionfan6883 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    He betrays his arrogant and cruel character, which no doubt he applied with full force to his persecution of innocent postmasters. No genuine remorse, no empathy, no personal responsibility, just deflection and self pity. And trying to excuse his dismissive attitude to the enquiry by claiming his valuable time was taken up with Christian endeavours just proves the old maxim, there is nothing more cruel than Christian love. What an horrible excuse for a human being.

  • @ianyoung7077
    @ianyoung7077 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    His "giving his residents the dignity and respect they deserve" put the shivers up me. I hope someone does a swift inspection of his "Christian" care home.

  • @kevinmcarthur1690
    @kevinmcarthur1690 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    People will only learn if there are significant consequences and that is jail.

    • @michaeltoohey1385
      @michaeltoohey1385 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jail doesn't seem to be a happening thing any time soon.

    • @paulrichards6894
      @paulrichards6894 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i would be surprised if any will get jail time

  • @johnnysimpson5385
    @johnnysimpson5385 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Shocking

  • @sarahrichardson302
    @sarahrichardson302 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    The whole experience was so upsetting for Mr Grant, he’s the real victim apparently, never mind the people who lost their freedom and good name.

    • @jeffmcninch6563
      @jeffmcninch6563 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He such a caring man for his residents ensuring their Christmas was perfect rather than reflecting on the innocent lives he personally destroyed. Such Christian values

  • @jonahdave5826
    @jonahdave5826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    First question, was the money actually lost? If the money didn't exist which seems to be mostly the case then no money has been lost. Two, how on earth could anyone know if there was a shortfall if the system was duplicating and miscounting transactions left, right, and center. Third and final question, why would a subpostmaster steal large amounts of money, keep going to work, delcaring their accounts every Wednesday, knowing that they're accountable for putting it back? None of this makes sense and should have been a huge red flag which it was but sadly was covered up.

    • @LearnSciSnippets
      @LearnSciSnippets 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think the same. The investigators just thought they were guilt regardless of any firm evidence.

    • @paulembleton1733
      @paulembleton1733 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      A complex system and bugs are guaranteed, but I’ve seen more due diligence from non-profit managers. It’s very difficult to picture a case where this just happened by accident, dynamics, whatever.

    • @lewismcdonald3616
      @lewismcdonald3616 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The post office could never prove theft in any of the cases they brought to court they got there guilty pleas by threats of jail

    • @jon780249
      @jon780249 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      All good points. I find it hard to understand how an investigation leading to a prosecution could be made without the money being missing or traceable. Given how many cases were brought without such evidence one would have imagined the question had to be asked. This just shows what a culture of thuggery existed in the post office. As an aside, that so many of these so called Christians were happy to cover all this up and even now are keen to exonerate themselves says much about the emptiness of their religious beliefs.

    • @JohnDavis-ed5sg
      @JohnDavis-ed5sg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, that is to me the most extraordinary point, in no case was a stash of cash, a lump of gold, a big bank account, or a new Mercedes found to have mysteriously appeared. To any intelligent investigator that would cast doubt on these cases, but having seen the standard of the investigators and the management, intelligence is not a common attribute of these people - no wonder the Post Office has been in steep decline for years.

  • @LukVik
    @LukVik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    This man should be in jail!!!

    • @Mariemancin
      @Mariemancin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes

  • @stechfreak
    @stechfreak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I wonder how many more "devout" Christians are involved in this scandal

    • @Linda-o2e2d
      @Linda-o2e2d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Paula Vennels ?

    • @MMulcair
      @MMulcair 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, given their track record, they're probably all lying about being Christians too....

  • @RCM-s5r
    @RCM-s5r 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    My role is to ensure that they get the level of respect and dignity they deserve 😂 based on his past track record and his thoughts that they are still guilty this guy doesn’t have a clue what is respect and dignity.

  • @geeky_gunner
    @geeky_gunner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This man is vile.

  • @AndrewMcCaffertyXerxes
    @AndrewMcCaffertyXerxes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Why did he keep saying it was a Christian organisation? How is that in any way significant? A man died before he could clear his name, and Mr Grant quite simply couldn't be arsed to do the work necessary.

  • @MaureenWatson-t4s
    @MaureenWatson-t4s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Ive got one word to describe Mr Grant - Hypocrite

  • @jolewis-brown6608
    @jolewis-brown6608 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The calibre of the investigators says a lot …

  • @digiman47
    @digiman47 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    What an arrogant indiviual. How dare he say he was reluctant to answer questions for the inquiry. So typical of Post Office management.

    • @wickedwitchoftheeast88
      @wickedwitchoftheeast88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats the PO's way Vennells set this example herself many times even when asked by parliment why she won't make information available to the Second Sight investigation

  • @andrewreynolds-q3y
    @andrewreynolds-q3y 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    pulling out the I'M a good Christian card. FFS this guy is pure evil

  • @mikeellis4345
    @mikeellis4345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The arrogant gall of that man

  • @aprilfox1057
    @aprilfox1057 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    A very good example of the mind set of The PO senior staff. Appalling attitude.

  • @brianoneill350
    @brianoneill350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A very enlightening and revealing picture of the latent aggressive behaviour of this individual. Any investigator worth his salt would and should have known that there were issues with the system. Blaming everyone else and had to be compelled to attend. Says it all really

  • @CJWFell
    @CJWFell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I find it outrageous that a man found not guilty can still be said to be guilty. If Grant is still employed he should be sacked. Defamation of character claim. Make him bankrupt? Maybe he may change his mind.

  • @orac1waterskiing
    @orac1waterskiing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Zero sympathy for this self-righteousness arrogant individual. He needs to be doing jail time.

  • @usernamename2978
    @usernamename2978 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    How long before "I was just following orders"? We heard that in the 1940s.

  • @XPLAlN
    @XPLAlN 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    He seems like the kind of investigator who knows that if the computer says money is missing, a crime has been committed, and he shouldn’t be distracted by irrelevances such as thousands of post masters complaining that the system was full of bugs. When on Earth are these people going to realise that this whole thing occurred, not because they were misled by this ‘post office’ entity, or Horizon, but because they were too effing arrogant. He is not a victim.

  • @Ethan265Stapley
    @Ethan265Stapley 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    He showing disdain at the idea he has to turn up with threat of legal repercussions if he didn't but that's all he did in his job. Put pressure on people to explain their actions under threat of legal repercussions.

  • @petecypriot
    @petecypriot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This contemptible individual has the arrogance to not only challenge the authority of this inquiry having to be to be forced into attending after almost not bothering to provide a witness staement, but still has the sheer temerity of claiming a man rightly aquitted of any wrongdoing by a court of law is still guilty. These people need to be convicted of contempt.

  • @tjfSIM
    @tjfSIM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This, right here, is the embodiment of the arrogance and malevolence that's been allowed to fester within the post office. This man is a disgrace on every possible level.

  • @patrickmckay8444
    @patrickmckay8444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Another “ not me gov” defence 😊

  • @soccerpractice0105
    @soccerpractice0105 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Poor man. He's so upset because people questioned him. Imagine what would happen if he were thrown prison for nothing.

  • @tonyknight9912
    @tonyknight9912 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Hmm, what have these people got in common ? Religion ! Same as the former Chief Exec.

    • @tomb3796
      @tomb3796 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's not like the church has never covered things up is it?

  • @Joybuzzard
    @Joybuzzard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    He's scared they're going to make him pay back the bonuses he got for falsely accusing people. He willfully ignored any evidence that the software wasn't working.

  • @dianacarroll8860
    @dianacarroll8860 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Just "Wow". I'm struggling to find the words for the "poor me" and arrogance on display here. I so hope that his carol services went well.

  • @gubulgaria5416
    @gubulgaria5416 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Dude seems to be saying that it's only a short statement because he was forced to make a statement. In other words, they should be lucky that he even did that.

  • @karenhoward2394
    @karenhoward2394 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I reckon the Salvation Army donations are going to decrease significantly. I would not give a penny which might go into this man's pocket. What a complete excusefor z human being.

  • @Mkbshg8
    @Mkbshg8 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    If he really is running a homeless shelter then I doubt he's doing it out of tthe goodness of his heart, just doesn't seem that sort of chap. So, what is his true motivation?

    • @acm1137
      @acm1137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Vulnerable sphincters.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@acm1137lmao. And I bet that’s actually it.

    • @SuperNova-py1ec
      @SuperNova-py1ec 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@acm1137😂. So wrong…😂

  • @Rick-mf3gh
    @Rick-mf3gh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "I work with homeless people. They aren't homeless when I first meet them, but I make sure they become homeless."

  • @trevorhart545
    @trevorhart545 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Q. Have the Post Office put up a HONEST person yet because I have not seen one? All Bonus Payments to these criminals at the Post Office and any bonus from 2008 onwards should be recovered. Why, it was obtained by Fraud.

  • @diane4488
    @diane4488 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    From all the investigations I've watched, so far, it seems all the staff were very poorly trained, didn't understand the law, shirked their responsibilities, were, and still are, prepared to tow the party line, had very low morals, and no respect for honesty and truth.
    Also no conscience regarding the pain and suffering they were personally causing.
    I would guess that the Post Office probably terminated employment contracts for anyone who had higher intellect and morality, or who even suggested that something was blatantly wrong.
    All those I've watched, still cannot see, understand, or wish to admit that their working practices were either naive, or corrupt.

  • @MrPinkStrat
    @MrPinkStrat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    HE is everything about The Post Office's Attitude & Exactly WHY This Enquiry is Necessary

  • @arthurhodgkinson8599
    @arthurhodgkinson8599 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All these people involved in this scandal should be jailed

  • @imo1751
    @imo1751 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    He made a statement at the end saying the outcome of the enquiry, the inquiry hasn't reached its outcome yet.

  • @colinireson9339
    @colinireson9339 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Having watched quite a few of these sessions, the thing that strikes me is the total lack of morality of these people. They have wrecked hundreds of lives with their lies and deceit and don't give a damn. All their interested in is covering their own backsides. I have never seen so many sociopaths in one place at one time.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    He was about to say “the ultimate responsibility belongs with the Post Office” and then gauged it wouldn’t be smart.

  • @johnwilson6707
    @johnwilson6707 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    where ever he is working they want to get rid of him

  • @ahartify
    @ahartify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He us humbly sorry yet he still thinks the postmaster was guiity? He would need evidence to claim that.

  • @alecmelvin4608
    @alecmelvin4608 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Were this investigators trained from the Gestapo prosecution Codebook? The fact that their houses, bedroom drawers , 5:47 cars and bank accounts were forcibly searched before any charges were laid makes one wonder.

  • @tricovthelite4234
    @tricovthelite4234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    What an incredibly self serving person, says that he thinks that the convictions were correct and that the post master stole from the post office to try and justify his actions at the time , and then ends by saying that the post office 'mis led' the employees and most importantly 'obviously' himself as a way of shifting the blame now ,,,,, just an awful person..

  • @jeffmcninch6563
    @jeffmcninch6563 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wonder if the investigating officer will still believe Mr Grant was complicit and a liar regarding the false PO convictions when he's in jail?

  • @pfella1878
    @pfella1878 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    yet at the end apologises and cries as if hes the victim

    • @LMC5690
      @LMC5690 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Crocodile tears

    • @memyself717
      @memyself717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People like that always do.

  • @jessicarabbit1138
    @jessicarabbit1138 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Basically he cares NOT about his wrongdoings. A Christian that goes to church to pray for himself, not others!

  • @Mike_5
    @Mike_5 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Vennells, Jenkins and now Grant all very fine upstanding members of their local communities and Churches but their time will come ...

  • @alanforrester1401
    @alanforrester1401 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In answer to the question about an "otherwise dishonest" deceased, this witness defamed ( but legally that has no status). Nevertheless, he should NEVER have defamed the former postmaster .......it only makes witness look and sound vindictive and arrogant.

  • @paulembleton1733
    @paulembleton1733 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Seems clear that PO management are responsible and criminal charges necessary or it’s further undermining the law.

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:18 Which he didn't do when working for the post office.

  • @nateellis628
    @nateellis628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For his part in it, he should be jailed. For Knowingly and fraudulently convicting innocent hard working people

  • @Ray-ed5ew
    @Ray-ed5ew 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Straight to jail for this one

  • @DavidJohnson-yg8qm
    @DavidJohnson-yg8qm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    An expert investigator giving evidence and he cannot remember such important details says a lot. Not really a Christian in my mind. If he is innocent then he now knows how the postmasters feel. I do think however he is not, just as he thinks the postmasters are not, Then he makes a personal statement saying he is sorry. What is he sorry for if he still thinks the postmasters are guilty?

  • @jeanarmstrong7307
    @jeanarmstrong7307 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shocking

  • @saxdearing3395
    @saxdearing3395 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Contempt, complete contempt towards him and he towards the enquirey.

  • @wendyeasterlow7310
    @wendyeasterlow7310 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He didn't consider the dignity nor afford respect to the people he investigated so banging on about his work with the homeless sounds shallow and self serving. Shame on him.

  • @keats6431
    @keats6431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is all about trying to win sympathy for himself, not about the victims. I laughed out loud at 3:26 - loved the sarcasm of the KC.

  • @kaspey29
    @kaspey29 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Echoes of ''It was not me. I was only obeying orders.''

  • @Busflower1
    @Busflower1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First person directly involved I’ve heard say sorry! But still not willing to take responsibility. Shame!!

  • @gregjarvis3288
    @gregjarvis3288 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What planet does he think he is on!!

  • @mirjamwillemsen900
    @mirjamwillemsen900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Talking about a level of respect and dignity.... 😡

  • @xinma6034
    @xinma6034 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very very very guilty so guilty very super guilty no good no good

  • @freddieclark
    @freddieclark 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Now that Carol services and dog walking are out of the way" that was almost brutal in its sarcasm.

  • @elpresso1983
    @elpresso1983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the fact that Raymond Grant spends/wastes a lot of time listing all the existing commitments he's signed up to which he couldn't put down to prepare for this inquiry only for the Kings Counsel to say that, well, actually, they were chasing him for a while and in the end had to server a section 21 notice on him to compel him to turn up.

  • @Inatsikap
    @Inatsikap 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is he sorry if thinks the person he investigated is still guilty!! Doesn’t make sense - Just another CYA statement

  • @stephenhurst8863
    @stephenhurst8863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't believe a single word this arrogant man says. Jail time awaits hopefully.

  • @ajs41
    @ajs41 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Could he have been sued for libel if Mr Quarm was still alive?