Acer Helios 18 (2023) Review - Is Bigger Better?
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Acer has made their Helios gaming laptop bigger than ever this year with their new Helios 18, but is bigger actually better? There’s one problem that I didn’t expect to see with a larger 18” design.
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Acer Helios 18 (2023) Review Timestamps:
0:00 Is Bigger Better?
0:16 Sponsor - Newegg’s FantasTech II Sale!
0:52 Design & Build Quality
1:22 Size & Weight
1:40 Laptop Specs
1:55 Keyboard, RGB Lighting & Touchpad
3:02 Ports
3:49 Getting Inside & Internals
4:10 Wi-Fi Speed, SSD & SD Card Speed
4:56 Upgrade Options
5:12 Speakers & Latencymon
5:41 Battery Size & Power Saving Features
5:54 Battery Life Comparison
6:25 Cooling Design & Thermal Modes
7:35 Temperatures / Clock Speed / TDP
9:01 Game Performance in Different Modes
9:16 Cinebench CPU Performance (On & Off Battery)
10:36 Does it Feel Hot - Keyboard Temperatures
11:14 Is it Loud - Fan Noise
11:42 My Main Problem With The Helios 18
12:44 Screen Options
13:02 Screen Color, Brightness, Contrast & Bleed
13:23 Screen Response Time & Latency
14:08 MUX Switch, Advanced Optimus & G-Sync
14:31 Camera & Microphone Test
14:43 3 Game Comparison at (4K, 1440p & 1080p)
17:02 3DMark & Content Creation
17:23 BIOS
17:34 Linux Support
17:53 Pricing, Availability & Laptop Deals
19:17 Is Helios 18 Worth Buying?
20:21 An 18” Laptop Alternative
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Hi Jarrod, thanks. I've been waiting for this review and you've addressed pretty much everything. One thing I'm trying to understand why Acer is limiting max expandable RAM to 32GB, which is specified in all marketplaces. 13900hx should support 192 GB as for the Intel's official specs but given that there are no higher capacity RAM available above 48GB currently, it should at least support 96GB (48GBx2). As it comes with 32GB already, there are no options for upgrade if the MAX is 32GB as specified, so I think upgradability score should be even lower in that case.
Hi Jarrod , Can you do the triton 17x please ?
Need the helios 16 version too 😿
@@triple9_ We asked Acer for it along with a few others months ago but they don't seem to want to lend it to us.
same as my comment above unfortunately@@mcflurry324
Been waiting for this for quite a while. Thanks for the detailed review, Jarrod. Do you think this would be a good laptop that can last three or four years considering that it thermal throttled during the stress test, assuming that 87c on the gpu is the thermal throttle limit?
I want mini-LED in more laptops sooo bad! I'd also love a super slim and light 18" for massive screen traveling. Although it seems manufactures are allergic to even 17.3 for light laptops.
Finally
I was waiting for this review for 4 month
Thanks alot❤
Comparing 17.3" 16:9 to 18" 16: 10, the 18" is taller and wider. But on the other hand, older 17.3" laptops had larger bezels.
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@@Samdevayprobably one of the legion laptops
Hello @JarrodsTech,
Can you try to test PD function in laptops that support it? I noticed some PD laptops(example tuf a15 2023) battery is getting weared really fast because using this function
On Helios 16, I've tested many different type-c chargers but none worked
Disabling efficiency cores feature doesn't work from bios
cant wait for the 16 inch one i have it currently but hearing your thoughts would be great!
I love your detailed videos, never misses a thing.
Thanks!
Don't know if it is the right place to ask but will you test any of the asus flow laptops series (x13,z13 and x16) ? I've been looking for your review since the laptops got announced cause your tests are just great :D . So will you test them/one of them ?
Unfortunately, probably not this year.
Hey Jarrod, i re-enabled Core iso in my laptop. Would it still hold back performance today or no??
For an 18" laptop the 4060 is a great bargain second hand. Gives more people access to 18" laptop which are fantastic for the on the go productivity or just moving around the house.
Yep mines wud be for the house.
Always totally transparent critique and attention to detail. I mean, who has a comparative historic table of gaming laptop fan noise? Fantastic content!
Thanks!
have anyone tried to repaste or replace the liquid metal and see improve cooling?
Hey jarrod, do you have any plan to review omen 16?
sir can u tell us about getting discount for student and does that dicount rate gate added to sale rate.
Hey jarrod, which one is better nitro 16 ryzen 5 or nitro v 15 rtx 4050 ? Thx dude
Hello
I love your videos
But i have a question
What do you think of acer aspire 7
I bought the acre Helios 300 after watching ur vids and honestly it’s a Beast I use it for gaming and programming and it has been amazing so far, the fans are loud in turbo mode but it’s not a problem for me and I always have headphones on anyway, performance on battery is aight, overall very satisfied.
hello brother, what model you've got?
i suspect this is the helios 300 2022 ye?
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Never game on battery.
wow, great thorough review!
Excellent review. I would go for the 18". However, I agree with you on loud cooling fans. Price is really good if you don't have the cash for a better more expensive model
What would you say is a better model if you have the cash?
@@shadkunt9387Razer 💀
Fans are loud to be honest , but have great cooling compared to others
@@thejakaranaweera7350I've heard that it has a throttle problem, should I get it?
so raid0 in this laptop based on 2x nvme works good? Thinking now to use raid0 or 2 seperate 4TB drives...
@Jarrods Tech how to repair my 2 minor dents from best buy canada or acer global itw support?
Hi I’m currently contemplating whether to get this laptop.
I heard that there’s stuttering issues with acer predator helios 18 ph18-71. If so, is it addressed in the newer acer predator helios 18 ph18-72 ?
Do you recommend buying this or the asus rog strix 18 4080
Hello sir... Quick question. Which one should i order. Tuf a16 7735hs, 7600s for 980 USD ? or Tuf a15 7735hs rtx 4060 for 1230 USD ?? Rtx 4060 performance gains and may be little better thermals of a15 worth 250 bucks considering a16 still has better, and tall screen over it also ?
microSD card sitting deep inside chassis is a plus for me. I can use microSD card as 3rd disk without worry of damaging it while transporting laptop.
does the predator helios 16 comes with a mini led panel in the 4080 version?
does this price is same on all best buy locations.
can i use power bank for laptop, instead the original charger?
Thanks for the review Jarrod! I've been waiting for this! From where I'm from, the Helios 16 is a bit cheaper to Legion Pro 7 for their RTX 4080 config. The Helios 16 is specced exactly to your Helios 18, down to the Raid 0 SSDs. Now I'm stuck, design wise, I prefer the Helios 16, RGB wise I prefer Legion Pro 7. Lol.
legion 7 with 4080 is 800$ more than predator with 4080 lol. idk wtf to do now.
Speaking of Acer gaming laptops, there's a new one that's been released, that as far as I'm concerned hasn't been touched upon (well that in depth) anywhere. It's the Acer Nitro V (yes, acer used a roman numeral XD), it's different from the nitro 16 and 15 if I'm correct, and even the back design is slightly different. The biggest difference I've seen is that it has the 2 fans together again compared to other or previous nitro 5s. It also comes with a 13th gen i5 or i7 and 4050 or 2050. How do you think will it stack up against other laptops?
is there any way to get the wallpaper that has been set in the laptop can't seem to find it anywhere
Go into %appdata% and then Microsoft > Windows > Themes and the wallpaper should be there.
Hey Jarrod, can you review the Acer Nitro 5 3070ti, its on sale here and seems great value but i am worried about its thermals and build.
I'm sure many people would watch that.
11:35 airport, just wondering whats the best content creation laptop with quiter fan noise
Mac
I have the mini led 4080 model. Its a very impressive piece of technology.
i cant seem to find it anywhere with a 4080, im only seeing 4070 models on bestbuy, amazon an newegg..im in canada but still shouldnt matter they offer every other machine here
I’m planning on buying the 16, shd I buy that one or this?
Good Lord can we get a laptop that hit all marks?!!? Lol.... thanks @Jarrod for always keeping me informed!!
I was considering this laptop but was way too impatient and ended up buying an Aorus 17H with the RTX 4080 back in March lol
Can you review the regular HP Omen 16 2023 with RTX 4060 ? (Not the transcend)
You're the best out there. Its outright insulting that they didnt send you the Mini LED version. Honestly, why would a reasonable consumer choose this non Mini LED version over other non Mini LED models like the Lenovo? For my money, I would only consider the Acer for the fact that they are one of the very few companies that makes higher end gaming laptops wirh Mini LED
If it had 4 or 6 speakers that sounded above average, I’d buy it right away… even if out of my budget.
Great review as always Jarrod, just wanted to know would it be smart to judge the helios 16 based on this review or does size make a big difference on preformance and build quality? 🤔
On Asus scar 18/16 the performance was literally the same except the 16 has a mini led
@@Smart_boy2001 Yeah due to this I think there are a lot of similarities you can likely draw between them, though perhaps not everything
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Hello.
You said that the sound of the Acer Helios 18 (2023) is not very good, is it much worse than that of the ASUS Scar 18 (2023)?
Scar 16 4080 or helios 16 4080? Which one have better Thermals?,and performance?
Does it come with the fan rattling
(Joking about helios from 2021)
Did you also review the 16 ? Is it equivalent to lenovo 7 series ? And if yes which is better in your opinion ?
I did the Neo 16 but not the 16: th-cam.com/video/Kch1PY6XcmQ/w-d-xo.html
Can you do a review of the Acer nitro 17 with the Ryzen 7 7000 and the RTX 4060 next please 🙏
Could you please make best budget gaming laptops around 1000 or less US dollars. Black friday is coming and we would love to grab the best one. Love your content❤❤❤keep it up
Can you tell me if a 3070ti is worth it over a 4060 at the same price?
I went for the 16 inch model, same specs as in this 18 variant. This beast plays cyberpunk 2077 with rtx ultra preset and 1600p dlss ultra at 90 - 110 fps. Nothing short of amazing, gets hot tho 95c
Got an Asus G16 (4080). Use throttlestop, undervolt the CPU and set boostclocks to 4700. Much better temps.
Also, try CP77 with rtx overdrive with dlss quality and FG, should still give you around 70fps at acceptable latency.
Remember to keep your laptop elevated. The bottom also needs to breathe and can make a lot of difference.
Still no custom fan curve customization.
Anybody know why the Asus tuf a15 Ryzen 9 7940hs 4070 the price is below from the other 4060 laptop ?
How's the legion 5 15.6 ryzen 7 7735hs 4060
Can you do full review for it😅
I bought this exact model today and I'm very impressed. I think the quality of the chassis is top notch, heavy but sturdy. Performance is buttery smooth. Screen brightness and picture quality/contrast is great. Nicest screen I've seen on a laptop. Was gonna go for a 4090 model, but they're silly money. I did have a few issues with artifacts due to the igpu being selected instead of the 4080, but great now. I use noise cancelling headphones and can't even hear the fans.
Also you said at 16:40 the Acer Helios was again at the bottom of the 4080's, when it was near the top on the other two games.
I got this too but with the 250hz mini led, all other specs same. the fans are very loud and CPU hits 90-95C on turbo but our ambient temps are around 35C 😂
I have the mini led too beautiful screen
The fan noise chart at 13:55 means absolutely nothing without temp/performance included. You also sorted the table by max fan speed volume. Who the hell runs the fans maxed out.
i run the fans maxxed out whenever i game, and its not a performance chart its fan noise chart... i dont think Frames per decibal is a metric anyone is looking for.. fan noise is not an issue to a large sum of people buying these gaming laptops, they have headphones on anytime the fans come off of idle anyway
can anyone recommend a backpack that can fit this thing?
If you look at it as , budget and ability the price is absolutely right for this beast which for its price offers very good quality
I’m debating between this and the ASUS strix 18! Please, which one do you recommend ?
I am probably going to pick up the ASUS Strix 18.
Strix SCAR 18?? i'd rather go with that.
Thank you guys. Strix for me as well just maybe get a sale for it coming Black Friday
Hola que tal es ese modelo Asus rog strix g18 ? Anda perfecto o conviene ir por Acer helios 18
is it better or LENOVO LEGION 5 pro with same specs i wish you answer ❤
Any suggestions/comparison of Asus Strix G16 (i7 13650Hx rtx4060) and Predator 16 (i9 13900hx rtx 4070)
The price of Predator 16 is $200 more
Acer helios 18 vs Lenovo legion 7i pro vs MSI GE 78HX Raider, which one is better?
Any incoming review about A15 2023?? 🤔
Any chance an Acer Triton 17x 4090 review is coming?
Nice review as always. Try the predator triton 17x if possible and definitely waiting for your legion 9 review
Not sure if I'll end up with more Acer this year, hopefully have more opportunity next year.
Will this laptop be delivered to me in Ireland?
Dang that's a very quiet stress test quiet mode at 37 normally it's about 39 or 40 but then very loud at the high end weird but cool.
does it have coil whine?
Jarrod, GREAT VIDEO
Add another thousand and it does
We need more 17" laptops.
Most 18 inch laptops this year are 17.3 inch laptops but with a 16 : 10 screen, so less bottom chin.
In China,noe 16 with13900HX,rtx4060 ￥8400,about $1200,should I buy this one?
Helios 300 3070Ti what a beast fighting against all these behemoths!
Same ports as the Helios 16 with RTX 4070 by the looks of it.
Also yes that Predator boot sound is obnoxious, try listening to that on repeat during Windows updates, argh, glad it could be disabled.
Seeing inside, it looks like a bit of wasted space where they could have opted for better cooling management.
I'm disappointed that Eco mode can't be used while plugged in & the placement of the Predator Sense key on all models.
Wow you have a website. Nice. Good to know.
Hey Jarrod, do you think it's worth picking this up for $1599? It is the Helios 16 and I was worried about temps and performance
Are going to add Germany 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪 to your website ?
Darn, just bought the asus g18, 4080 T.T is this better?
“Aaron earned an iron urn” with this laptop
Tengo una msi bravo 15 de 16 gb ram con una rtx 4050 6 vram y me descargue el god of war inicio el juego con 90 fps y en un momento se vaja a 20 fps que es lo que pasa 🤔 si ya tengo actualizado los drivers 🤔🤔
After noticing this is like the only affordable 18" I realized they don't make an 18" with a 4050. Wonder if they are just trying to not be cheap or are just trying to make you buy up and make you not be cheap. lol
all that space they could have put in so much more upgradability for memory storage
Bigger , better , stronger rule 💀
That's what she said
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@@Samdevay bro 2 lac inr is best budget , even I say overbudget , see wait till next year since u this year have came to end and student welcome season will offer u new and less expense also but yeah buy like Dell, hp , asus not msi , acer, Lenovo Chinese products which don't give better afterservice
My recommendation buy hp Omen series , asus rogue series or Dell G series or Xps series , next year , also amd 8000 series coming will give major upgrade in cpu performance
@Maha-Devay
You can make a supercomputer with this price💀
@@Birdman._. bro called my 80k laptop cheap 💀
hi could anyone help me with predator helios 16 i7 13700 hx and 4060 8gb vram , is it worth compared to a slim 7i
I would rather get the I7 version and use the extra money for bigger battery if that is an option.
Can you review the new asus tuf a15 2023 with rtx 4050
I have the G18 Strix (non-Scar) and I am loving the 18" form factor. I do wish they'd utilize the extra space for an extra M.2 or something, but overall I'm happy with it.
It just BARELY fits in my bag, so this one might not have fit haha.
Asus and Acer have the worst mobile BIOS. Can't set anything noteworthy. I have to use 3rd party software if I want to try and lock my CPU frequencies and it still occasionally dips even with speedstep and c-states disabled (probably a power cap issue. Haven't had time to dig into it).
could be windows power mode. if its in performance mode, and throttlestop shows 0 speedshift then it shouldn't downclock.... or atleast thats how it used to be years ago hahaha
@@EpicBunty I've tweaked all the windows settings, and again, had to use a 3rd party software to disable C-states and max out frequency target. Setting 100/100 in windows didn't lock anything. So dumb.
Even with it locked, cores fluctuation. occasionally significantly. I wouldn't care, but I use an audio application that's sensitive to it (it's poorly coded but it's the one i'm used to haha). My temps are good so I may try a voltage offset to see if it helps, but I don't like doing anything voltage in mobile stuff.
ah, I see. well good luck hope u find a solution. maybe there is a setting in windows which gives priority to the application, like there are for GPUs ? also in task manager there are settings like that I think perhaps those may help.
I am still running on windows 10 and one of the older i7s without the newer P cores/E cores but just trying to help.@@misterringer
@@EpicBunty all good. I've dug into those options but nothing is really making a difference so far. I'm about to disable the E-cores and see if that does anything haha. Sad to have to leave so much performance on the table. too late to return it.
Alternatively, I'd pay someone to get me a modded bios that exposed the CPU frequency and C-state settings.
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Hi jarrod
Can tou review asus zenbook pro 14x with rtx 4070
🙏🏼
I saw online that acer laptops have screen flickering issue after 2 or 3 years. I have the same issue. After being an acer fan for more than a decade im very disappointed...
Jarrod is it worth it to take 7940hs and 4070 over 7735hs and 4060 if it has 150$ difference I'm talking about asus tuf a15 here
Not Jarrod but id personally pick up the 4070 model
Also not Jarrod but yes it's worth to pick the 4070 one since $150 difference isn't too costly, in context with those specs.
Why did you remove both the legion slim 5's from the game performance tests? They both performed better than the Acer nitro 5 and you have included it in the comparison.
I decide each video which laptops to add as there are too many to add them all. My decision is based on what I think is most useful in relation to the laptop being reviewed.
@@JarrodsTech okay dude I was just confused for a bit
are you gonna test Acer Nitro 16?
Hey Jarrod, when will you review the Legion Pro 5 2023?
We've already covered the 5i, unfortunately it's not worth 1-2 weeks of work to make a whole new video when the only difference is CPU. Yes CPU matters, but we have a bunch of Intel vs AMD comparisons already for you to see the differences.
thanks! so the only real difference is the CPU then.@@JarrodsTech
what's the point of complaining so much about the fan noise, every laptops have fan speed adjustability, just put on quite mode, but for those who need extra performance, its a bonus for them.
5:30, I don't know this sound or the bios beep is worse.
Thats why I put a custom boot logo on mine after I got my 2022 Helios 300 since it disables the bootup sound lol.
It can be disabled though.
OMG pleeeeease take a review about msi stealth 16 studio rtx 4070
This or asus rog strix scar 18 rtx 4080?
My friend you may be the only that can help me with asus tuf gaming fx705DY... It plays ok for low medium specs it is equipped but though the heavy division 2 is playable with the old rx560x (40 fps medium to high) ....well my problem is i dont know the problem its internet or the asus m3 mouse. My character sometimes in matchmaking when playing with others is in auto run and its unplayable!! I did everything possible its not the gpu or cpu power i think but my internet is 90mbs down 10up so can be the mouse? I used some non gaming it didnt happen but its not an all time issue. It can happen in daytime sometimes it can dissapear for longtime periods in nights i play it. Thanx in advance its the only with cyberpunk i play i dont like modern games i like this benchmarking you make but thats another topic ha😅😅😅ha
Torx screws aren't as easy to strip (especially accidentally). Imo, stop 'taking off half a point' for it- someone without a relatively basic set of drivers is probably better off not opening up a device they paid a lot of money for.
@Jarrod'sTech Please review Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 2024 intel edition.
We should have one up in a few weeks
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Yeah, wow, there is a lot of wasted space in that laptop. I agree that having a micro sd card in a laptop that big, with that much empty space inside, is a weird choice. And the battery -- when you're already at 7 pounds and you're an 18-inch laptop, AND you have that much empty space all around the 90wh battery, not having a 99wh battery just seems like a poor decision. (I also don't like the small right shift key; i know most people don't care about that though.)