@@rickgoethe Acer and Predator is a separate brand, Acer is the Parent Brand for Predator. Nitro is a product from Acer brand, while Helios Neo 16 is a product from Predator brand. That's why they called it Acer Nitro, not Predator Nitro.
@@gadingprakasabro from where the fuck did u get this type of Knowledge it is clearly written on their websites as Acer Predator Helios neo16/16 or Acer Nitro 5/16 Both are just Acer different series in the laptop segment. Its not Like Redmi/Xiomi or Oppo/Realme or Vivo/IQOO.
for someone who doesn't have any idea how both laptop looks, I have difficulties recognizing the entry-level and high-end laptop since you keep switching their position left and right + the lack of labeling, this is just frustrating to watch
I have the predator 16 with 13900HX/4080 and upgraded to 32GB 16x2 Gskill ripjaws 5600mhz CL40 and it is an absolute monster for a laptop in 2560x1600. 19426 in timespy and hit barely over 35k in firestrike(old test) on turbo. 11,262 in R20 and 13,433/846 in CPU-Z. Companies using Liquid Metal on retail units was the best idea since sliced bread. Love the laptop. Understand that this unit and no laptop out is going to compete with a 13900K and 4090 desktop and even less. Laptops aren’t supposed to, so don’t expect this unit or any mobile unit to even remotely compete with a high powered desktop. I’m hitting over 37k in timespy and over 50k in firestrike on my 13900k/4090/7000mhz desktop for a fair comparison. It is heavily overclocked as well. If you have a mild tech level and know how to tweak current hardware, get the predator 16 with the 4080 and withOUT the mini LED. Upgrading to 32GB 16x2 5600mhz CL40 is also necessary but cheap. They ship the unit with 16GB to reduce the retail over competitors. You won’t regret buying the unit at all.
I just got the neo 16 for $1099 with an RTX-4060 and Intel 13700HX and a WQXGA 165HZ display what 500 nits of brightness! It also has 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports which is rare in this price point and can also be charged up to 100 Watts via the Thunderbolt port. While that wont give full power for gaming it will keep it running while using it and charge to full power while off. This is a big deal as the factory wall plugs for all these gaming laptops are insanely huge. Add in wifi 6E and the fact that both RAM ports can be replaced and there is an extra V4 NVME slot and this thing is an insane value for what you get. I want to mention that in the US there is no writing on the laptop cover, it is just plain with the predator logo.
Yep. I've had their gtx1650, 1060, 2060, and now 4060 models. They have improved their cooling drastically since 2018(use to overheat) and its become the best budget laptop on the market. I put in a 2tb samsung m.2 and replaced the ram with 32gb. Perfect for what I need with school and work. Its also nice having a 1440p screen for extra real estate
11:57 holy crap. I had no idea this computer ever costed so much! I got mine refurbished directly through acer for about $1,500 which included taxes and shipping.
I really like this video. Everyone is talking about the other specs of the helios neo 16. I was searching for this very video, great comparison especially with a lower budget like myself searching for a gaming laptop.
I was sure I read somewhere that the Helios 16 uses an aluminium alloy material while the Helios Neo 16 uses plastic. My Helios 16 feels like cold metal when it's off. The touchpad material is also different between the models, gorilla glass for the 16, plastic for the Neo 16. Something I dislike about the screen though is the dci-p3, since I view a lot of legacy content so it saturates the colours & I prefer a more natural look. Also these laptop CPUs get really hot.
Would you recommend the Helios Neo 16 but with upgraded i9 and RTX 4070. I am interested in performance however I am not sure if its build and screen are good?
I am writing this comment from a Neo16 with a i9-13900HX, 32GB of RAM, and the 4070. I have owned this laptop for 3 weeks and so far it has been very impressive. The build is very good for the price. The screen is excellent for gaming and watching content, even in bright areas, but the color accuracy isn't perfect if you are a photographer who wants to edit your photos to perfection (but most gaming laptops have this flaw). Compared to my gaming PC with a 3080Ti, this laptop is 88% (I actually did the math based on framerates in different games) as powerful as my gaming PC, which is way above my expectations given the thermal limitations of laptops. Everything is perfect, I only have four complaints: - There is a microSD card slot instead of a full SD slot, which is annoying if you're a photographer - There is no fingerprint scanner - The laptop comes with a bulky and heavy 330W charger, but it uses less than 280W under full load, so the extra capacity is useless - The battery lasts lest than 3 hours in eco mode using low screen brightness and only doing light tasks like watching TH-cam.
One thing i forgot to add, the i9 is overpowered for this laptop. in most games the GPU will be at 99% while the CPU will be at 30%. If you can get this laptop with an i7 and a 4070 you wouldn't notice a difference.
Sto valutando l’acquisto anch’io ma con la ram a 16gb. Ho visto un’offerta ora a 1729€, mentre l’Helios 16 è a 2049€ con le stesse identiche caratteristiche a parte il refresh rate che passa da 165 a 240. Non capisco questa differenza di prezzo avendo praticamente le stesse identiche caratteristiche. Anche la risoluzione del Neo la hanno implementata a 2560x1600 come l’Helios. Tu mi confermi che ti stai trovando bene con l’Helios Neo 16? Grazie se mi risponderai! 🇮🇹
@@alessandrodemartino8582 Mi trovo benissimo, anche la batteria non è malvagia a patto di non metterlo sotto pressione. Riesci a fare senza problemi 5 ore con uso ufficio/web. Ho valutato attentamente tutti e due i pc, purtroppo in italia non ci sono recensioni e ho dovuto prenderli entrambi per poi restituirne uno. L'unica differenza che ho notato sta nello chassis. Nel Neo manca la barra led posteriore ed è leggermente più ingombrante. Per il resto è lo stesso pc, non ho notato nemmeno differenze nella qualità del display che è ottimo. Per farti un esempio: possiedo anche un Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro con dynamic amoled 2x...ti garantisco che non ha nulla da invidiare, a parte i neri assoluti. Colori perfetti e luminosità maggiore, se non hai esigenze particolari a livello fotografico fidati che è una goduria con quella risoluzione e quel refresh che è già altissimo e non si vedono differenze con frequenze maggiori. Per quanto riguarda le prestazioni...un mostro, per andare oltre e notare differenze devi metterti in mano il doppio dei soldi e anche più, ma per incrementi del 15/20%, temperature permettendo. La gestione del calore è fenomenale, se metti la modalità turbo le ventole fanno un rumore infernale ma la cpu non va oltre i 72°, se lo metti in modalità silenzioso per uso basico le ventole restano spente per il 90% del tempo. Se hai altre domande chiedi pure.
@@GliamicidiSemolino Sei stato super esaustivo grazie mille. Mi puoi quindi anche confermare che pur se ACER scrive che la ram può essere ampliata fino a 32 tu l’hai portata a 64 giusto? Perché in questo caso direi che la differenza di prezzo la metto per maxare la ram! 😁
@@alessandrodemartino8582 vai tranquillo, ho due bachi della kingston e funzionano perfettamente. Mi sono preoccupato solo al primo avvio perchè ci ha messo un minuto per fare il post del bios, ma a quanto pare era normale. Calcola che mi sono costate circa 280€
I am typing this from my Neo 16 with the 4070. It is 85% as powerful as my gaming PC with a 3080Ti, which is very very impressive. It made my gaming PC basically useless.
Very loud on turbo yes, but it is not needed most of the time. Going for a more balanced setting is completely fine while gaming and it doesn't get as loud.
Enabling performance boot mode in the registry and modifying from aggressive to disabled or to efficient aggressive greatly improves the temp for the Helios 16 up to 20c less during gaming and does not effect performance.
Neo 16 is not worth purchasing, push in a little money and go for Helios 16. I am saying this because i did this. Have a Helios 16 i9 with RTX 4070, i hope this doesnt get outdated in the next 3 years time. I had to return the Rog Strix G16, as per the sound output Rog is superior but Acer Helios is ok when compared. Neo 16 display is not great but Acer Helios 16 display will triumph many in the market. Neo 16 display despite it is 400 nits gets beaten easily by Rog Strix display at 300 nits. I may sound crazy but yes that is true. It feels better than Neo16. In the end i will say this only purchase Predator Helios 16 for less troubles in life ahead. With ASUS i had troubles with the hardware and even now struggling to get a refund nd have to wait for another 20 days for Amazon to complete their procedures. ACER never disappointed me in life, had 3 laptops including Predator Helios 16 so far and i love them because they are still running and are being used by the little ones in the family
Question! I hope someone will answer. Neo 16 with i9 13900hx w/ rtx 4060 Is it worth to buy? Can Neo 16 run smoothly with this specs? Or shall i go for LOQ 16 i7 13620h w/ rtx 4060?
I just bought it 3 days ago, what needs to be emphasized is that the build quality is good compared to other brands with the same specs but at a cheaper price, I got it for $ 1650 with 32 GB RAM
Im buying a refurbished neo from Acer for 999$... It's a steal and I'm sure it will play anything I throw at it just fine..I'm upgrading from a Dell G7 with 1650 from years ago..
If you prioritize a slightly more powerful processor and a solid, conservative design, the Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 might be the better choice. However, if you prefer a newer processor and potentially better battery life, the MSI Pulse 16 could be more suitable.
I really liked this video. I wish you could have benchmarked the Neo with the RTX 4060 though, because it's on sale for $1,100 at Best Buy in the US, and a lot of people are buying it.
The i7 13700HX RTX 4050 laptop is good for music production because it has a powerful CPU. The high-end GPU is not necessary unless you do video editing. Look for at least 16GB RAM and fast storage like an SSD. Make sure it has enough ports for your music gear.
I have the Helios 16 with the i9 13900HX and the 4080 .. when I play on performance mode I get massive stutters but when I play on turbo I don’t …. Is their any reason for that ? Am I doing something wrong !
Hey I'm thinking about buying the same one.. it is about 1300$ at amazon uae How the laptops feels with u in gaming ? Do u notice any problems in tearms of heating or not getting enough power on the gpu or cpu? I hope u can answear me. Thanks
@@Naddeh7 Its a very good gaming PC. and yeah since it has plastic body it doesn't heat up that much+ the cooling and fans are really good. Up till now haven't had any issue with performance. Hope this helps. Thanks.
I'm pretty sure the nitro is the entry level ,predator neo is the mid to high and regular predator is the flagship
Nitro is not from predator, it's from acer. So helios neo 16 is the entry level for predator.
@@gadingprakasaand Predator is from Acer (like Alienware is from Dell).
@@rickgoethe Acer and Predator is a separate brand, Acer is the Parent Brand for Predator. Nitro is a product from Acer brand, while Helios Neo 16 is a product from Predator brand. That's why they called it Acer Nitro, not Predator Nitro.
@@gadingprakasabro from where the fuck did u get this type of Knowledge it is clearly written on their websites as Acer Predator Helios neo16/16 or Acer Nitro 5/16 Both are just Acer different series in the laptop segment.
Its not Like Redmi/Xiomi or Oppo/Realme or Vivo/IQOO.
@@Bishal_Mondal666 i work on predator gaming indonesia as their digital marketing
for someone who doesn't have any idea how both laptop looks, I have difficulties recognizing the entry-level and high-end laptop since you keep switching their position left and right + the lack of labeling, this is just frustrating to watch
Basically the one with RGB is the fancier one, and the keyboard is a little larger
True
I have the 4080 version and omg it's satisfying as heck going through each graphics option and putting everything at the highest possible setting!
I have the predator 16 with 13900HX/4080 and upgraded to 32GB 16x2 Gskill ripjaws 5600mhz CL40 and it is an absolute monster for a laptop in 2560x1600. 19426 in timespy and hit barely over 35k in firestrike(old test) on turbo. 11,262 in R20 and 13,433/846 in CPU-Z. Companies using Liquid Metal on retail units was the best idea since sliced bread. Love the laptop. Understand that this unit and no laptop out is going to compete with a 13900K and 4090 desktop and even less. Laptops aren’t supposed to, so don’t expect this unit or any mobile unit to even remotely compete with a high powered desktop. I’m hitting over 37k in timespy and over 50k in firestrike on my 13900k/4090/7000mhz desktop for a fair comparison. It is heavily overclocked as well. If you have a mild tech level and know how to tweak current hardware, get the predator 16 with the 4080 and withOUT the mini LED. Upgrading to 32GB 16x2 5600mhz CL40 is also necessary but cheap. They ship the unit with 16GB to reduce the retail over competitors. You won’t regret buying the unit at all.
The flagship should definitely be triton 17x..
I just got the neo 16 for $1099 with an RTX-4060 and Intel 13700HX and a WQXGA 165HZ display what 500 nits of brightness! It also has 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports which is rare in this price point and can also be charged up to 100 Watts via the Thunderbolt port. While that wont give full power for gaming it will keep it running while using it and charge to full power while off. This is a big deal as the factory wall plugs for all these gaming laptops are insanely huge. Add in wifi 6E and the fact that both RAM ports can be replaced and there is an extra V4 NVME slot and this thing is an insane value for what you get. I want to mention that in the US there is no writing on the laptop cover, it is just plain with the predator logo.
Yep. I've had their gtx1650, 1060, 2060, and now 4060 models. They have improved their cooling drastically since 2018(use to overheat) and its become the best budget laptop on the market. I put in a 2tb samsung m.2 and replaced the ram with 32gb. Perfect for what I need with school and work. Its also nice having a 1440p screen for extra real estate
no , the new battery can last at most 3h, and less than 1h in gaming!
11:57
holy crap. I had no idea this computer ever costed so much! I got mine refurbished directly through acer for about $1,500 which included taxes and shipping.
I really like this video. Everyone is talking about the other specs of the helios neo 16. I was searching for this very video, great comparison especially with a lower budget like myself searching for a gaming laptop.
I was sure I read somewhere that the Helios 16 uses an aluminium alloy material while the Helios Neo 16 uses plastic.
My Helios 16 feels like cold metal when it's off.
The touchpad material is also different between the models, gorilla glass for the 16, plastic for the Neo 16.
Something I dislike about the screen though is the dci-p3, since I view a lot of legacy content so it saturates the colours & I prefer a more natural look.
Also these laptop CPUs get really hot.
What would you prefer: Helios 16 i7 rtx 4060 or Helios neo 16 i9 rtx 4070 the price is almost same i am so confused 🤔
The Helios 16 is their flagship model, the Neo 16 is their slightly less premium model.
Would you recommend the Helios Neo 16 but with upgraded i9 and RTX 4070. I am interested in performance however I am not sure if its build and screen are good?
I want the same answer. Let me know
I am writing this comment from a Neo16 with a i9-13900HX, 32GB of RAM, and the 4070. I have owned this laptop for 3 weeks and so far it has been very impressive. The build is very good for the price. The screen is excellent for gaming and watching content, even in bright areas, but the color accuracy isn't perfect if you are a photographer who wants to edit your photos to perfection (but most gaming laptops have this flaw). Compared to my gaming PC with a 3080Ti, this laptop is 88% (I actually did the math based on framerates in different games) as powerful as my gaming PC, which is way above my expectations given the thermal limitations of laptops.
Everything is perfect, I only have four complaints:
- There is a microSD card slot instead of a full SD slot, which is annoying if you're a photographer
- There is no fingerprint scanner
- The laptop comes with a bulky and heavy 330W charger, but it uses less than 280W under full load, so the extra capacity is useless
- The battery lasts lest than 3 hours in eco mode using low screen brightness and only doing light tasks like watching TH-cam.
@@Ghosttts check my reply under his comment. I hope it helps.
One thing i forgot to add, the i9 is overpowered for this laptop. in most games the GPU will be at 99% while the CPU will be at 30%. If you can get this laptop with an i7 and a 4070 you wouldn't notice a difference.
@@drbadzerthat's bottlenecking can u undervolt the cpu?
My PNH16 ONLY HAVE C DRIVE (500GB) NO DRIVE D. IS THAT NORMAL?
tbh my 4050 sucked but then i installed an extra 9 gb of ram to make it a 16gb dual channel and it gained about 20-40 fps
I wouldn't describe neo as "Entry-Level" probably Mid range
Felice possessore di Helios Neo 16, la mia configurazione ha i9 13900Hx rtx 4070 e 64 Gb di Ram ddr5 a 5600 Mhz. Saluti dall'italia 🇮🇹
Sto valutando l’acquisto anch’io ma con la ram a 16gb. Ho visto un’offerta ora a 1729€, mentre l’Helios 16 è a 2049€ con le stesse identiche caratteristiche a parte il refresh rate che passa da 165 a 240. Non capisco questa differenza di prezzo avendo praticamente le stesse identiche caratteristiche. Anche la risoluzione del Neo la hanno implementata a 2560x1600 come l’Helios. Tu mi confermi che ti stai trovando bene con l’Helios Neo 16? Grazie se mi risponderai! 🇮🇹
@@alessandrodemartino8582 Mi trovo benissimo, anche la batteria non è malvagia a patto di non metterlo sotto pressione. Riesci a fare senza problemi 5 ore con uso ufficio/web. Ho valutato attentamente tutti e due i pc, purtroppo in italia non ci sono recensioni e ho dovuto prenderli entrambi per poi restituirne uno. L'unica differenza che ho notato sta nello chassis. Nel Neo manca la barra led posteriore ed è leggermente più ingombrante. Per il resto è lo stesso pc, non ho notato nemmeno differenze nella qualità del display che è ottimo. Per farti un esempio: possiedo anche un Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro con dynamic amoled 2x...ti garantisco che non ha nulla da invidiare, a parte i neri assoluti. Colori perfetti e luminosità maggiore, se non hai esigenze particolari a livello fotografico fidati che è una goduria con quella risoluzione e quel refresh che è già altissimo e non si vedono differenze con frequenze maggiori. Per quanto riguarda le prestazioni...un mostro, per andare oltre e notare differenze devi metterti in mano il doppio dei soldi e anche più, ma per incrementi del 15/20%, temperature permettendo. La gestione del calore è fenomenale, se metti la modalità turbo le ventole fanno un rumore infernale ma la cpu non va oltre i 72°, se lo metti in modalità silenzioso per uso basico le ventole restano spente per il 90% del tempo. Se hai altre domande chiedi pure.
@@GliamicidiSemolino Sei stato super esaustivo grazie mille. Mi puoi quindi anche confermare che pur se ACER scrive che la ram può essere ampliata fino a 32 tu l’hai portata a 64 giusto? Perché in questo caso direi che la differenza di prezzo la metto per maxare la ram! 😁
@@alessandrodemartino8582 vai tranquillo, ho due bachi della kingston e funzionano perfettamente. Mi sono preoccupato solo al primo avvio perchè ci ha messo un minuto per fare il post del bios, ma a quanto pare era normale. Calcola che mi sono costate circa 280€
@@alessandrodemartino8582 non trovo la risposta che ti avevo dato. comunque si confermo, ram kingston ddr5 circa 280 € per due banchi da 32gb
Bought the Neo 16 with 4070 for my kids, it runs amazing and the shreen looks frekking great. It is very loud on Turbo mode toug 😀
I am typing this from my Neo 16 with the 4070. It is 85% as powerful as my gaming PC with a 3080Ti, which is very very impressive. It made my gaming PC basically useless.
Very loud on turbo yes, but it is not needed most of the time. Going for a more balanced setting is completely fine while gaming and it doesn't get as loud.
Thank you for the video
Thanks for Watching!
watching this on my acer predator helios neo 16 is really satisfying
Hey bro can you suggest some laptops for video editing and graphic designing....
You can take a look at the MSI Summit E13 Evo
www.tech360.tv/the-msi-summit-e13-flip-is-an-all-day-productivity-workhorse
Enabling performance boot mode in the registry and modifying from aggressive to disabled or to efficient aggressive greatly improves the temp for the Helios 16 up to 20c less during gaming and does not effect performance.
1:41 this means PREDATOR
Neo 16 is not worth purchasing, push in a little money and go for Helios 16. I am saying this because i did this. Have a Helios 16 i9 with RTX 4070, i hope this doesnt get outdated in the next 3 years time.
I had to return the Rog Strix G16, as per the sound output Rog is superior but Acer Helios is ok when compared.
Neo 16 display is not great but Acer Helios 16 display will triumph many in the market.
Neo 16 display despite it is 400 nits gets beaten easily by Rog Strix display at 300 nits. I may sound crazy but yes that is true. It feels better than Neo16.
In the end i will say this only purchase Predator Helios 16 for less troubles in life ahead.
With ASUS i had troubles with the hardware and even now struggling to get a refund nd have to wait for another 20 days for Amazon to complete their procedures.
ACER never disappointed me in life, had 3 laptops including Predator Helios 16 so far and i love them because they are still running and are being used by the little ones in the family
I also had to return my Asus TUF unfortunately.
His entry level is my salary for a year.
😂😂
Question! I hope someone will answer.
Neo 16 with i9 13900hx w/ rtx 4060
Is it worth to buy? Can Neo 16 run smoothly with this specs? Or shall i go for LOQ 16 i7 13620h w/ rtx 4060?
I just bought it 3 days ago, what needs to be emphasized is that the build quality is good compared to other brands with the same specs but at a cheaper price, I got it for $ 1650 with 32 GB RAM
They're sure sturdy just like by nerfed Acer TravelMate B514-31-37NR.
Bro! What's the datum sooooooonn,ngggg!!!!!! Nice!
I got the i9 4080 for $1850...
Lucky!
@@pho3nix- I got $1650 off with asurian too
Im buying a refurbished neo from Acer for 999$... It's a steal and I'm sure it will play anything I throw at it just fine..I'm upgrading from a Dell G7 with 1650 from years ago..
i cant figure out how to turn on my lightbar on my neo 16. just picked mine up 2 days ago brand new. pls help.
Which one do you think would be a better choice, the Acer Predator neo 16 i9 14900 4070 rtx or the MSI Pulse 16 core ultra 9 4070 rtx? Thanks 🙂
If you prioritize a slightly more powerful processor and a solid, conservative design, the Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 might be the better choice. However, if you prefer a newer processor and potentially better battery life, the MSI Pulse 16 could be more suitable.
I really liked this video. I wish you could have benchmarked the Neo with the RTX 4060 though, because it's on sale for $1,100 at Best Buy in the US, and a lot of people are buying it.
Just got it see my comments above, it is sold out now.
I bought it but exchanged it for the 4080. Thought the investment would be worth it since I heavy mod GTA
I need someone to buy mevthe helios 16,I am in Nigeria 😅
How would you recommend i7 13700hx rtx 4050 varient for music production? Or any other laptop in that price range?
The i7 13700HX RTX 4050 laptop is good for music production because it has a powerful CPU. The high-end GPU is not necessary unless you do video editing. Look for at least 16GB RAM and fast storage like an SSD. Make sure it has enough ports for your music gear.
@@Terafied thanks bro 🤘🏻
I have the Helios 16 with the i9 13900HX and the 4080 .. when I play on performance mode I get massive stutters but when I play on turbo I don’t …. Is their any reason for that ? Am I doing something wrong !
Maybe on the performance mode your laptop doesnt use the RTX 4080, then the turbo use it
@@HannXCh. I got rid of the laptop I have a 4080 desktop now . Much much better
My neo 16 actually has resolution 2560X1600 set on default(its the i9 4060 version)
Hey
I'm thinking about buying the same one.. it is about 1300$ at amazon uae
How the laptops feels with u in gaming ? Do u notice any problems in tearms of heating or not getting enough power on the gpu or cpu?
I hope u can answear me. Thanks
@@Naddeh7 Its a very good gaming PC. and yeah since it has plastic body it doesn't heat up that much+ the cooling and fans are really good. Up till now haven't had any issue with performance. Hope this helps. Thanks.
how to turn on the rgb panel
could you like give away the entry level laptop to like me
im a subscriber since 20k
Ya c’mon, get this guy a laptop
Yeah man, c'mon give my dude a laptop
Another vote here for this guy to be given a laptop plzzZ
proof?
Issue of Predator laptops is LCD. 1-2 years boom out
I dont care about this. Can it run VR at high framerates or not?
Yes, you can see all your furry E-girls in VR Chat at a good frame rate.
@@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTreeBruh. 😂😂😂