99% of the people watching this didn't learn anything... You need to show how the hammer spring legs get bent backwards almost 180° and sit on the trigger pin while you fight the hammer in.
@@TripAMD I agree it could of been explained more but the video is still good and so far yeah because I did it all last night and even had a different lower kit. Other than the lower being out of spec or the trigger being to fall was my only problem
@@travenstevens6001. Did you get it all together in the end? Sometimes you gotta lightly file down the burs around the flat side of the safety selector. It also goes in before the pistol grip or it won't fit. What brand lower are you using? Andersons can be a little funny sometimes, thats why im asking.
Let's make sure our fingers obscure any useful views of the only challenging part of a lower build! Yeah - and maybe we can hurry through it to really keep our audience guessing! Lol. I feel like I've been Brownelled.
This was my first lower receiver build. I have replaced several triggers with single stage modules. I have watched several other videos on the lower receiver to see trigger install. I did have to watch the part of installing the hammer three times to catch spring positioning. Any improvements suggestions would be to stop and include a good look inside housing showing spring placement. Thank you
Should we show how the springs assemble? Midway: nah, let's just make it as confusing as possible and show almost nothing. Oh and if boss man can keep his hands covering the important stuff, that'll make it even better.
Every time I I build a lower regardless of how many times I've done it I always look at these videos. Thank you, Mr. Potter. It truly is a wonderful life, Geo. Bailey!
Not really a install video but a great assembly video. Made sure my hammer, trigger and trigger spring were facing the right direction just like demonstrated in the video. I used common sense for the installation and was able to take apart and install two triggers for my rifles 💯 thanks for the vid
Thanks was a big help to me . Some of the camera angles could have shown more like the legs on the spring. you did say they rested on the pin that was good enough for me.
Thank you. I took apart a trigger assembly and paid attention to the layout and detail, the standard of triage or troubleshooting. It became excruciatingly clear that Eugene Stoner had a mind like a steel trap and that I would be putting back together something so deceptively simple. After wards, I felt as if I understood my weapon in a complete level of detail that would allow me to advance my learning and begin purchasing the unnecessary yet highly advantageous tools where I could call myself an armorer of said system. That little pin, gosh darn that makes it so much easier.
My god...what did you go through sir? I have an ALG trigger Im about to install...invoke me with your words of inspiration to allow me to get through this build.
@@SgtJohnRemairez lmao, nah, just when you open something, make sure to take note of subcomponent position. Never did anything crazier than a laptop or watch, but the lessons learned paid forward when taking apart a trigger group. The engineering, it makes me feel dumb. Maybe not dumb, but humbled af.
Thank you for this video it really helps to be able to understand how to install the trigger and everything in to the lower I received the whole AR 9 build kit from SDI the AR 9 build kit is made by panther arms and the way the trigger goes Into the lower in this video is exactly how the trigger goes in my AR 9 lower.
in regard to the trigger and hammer pins..does it really make any difference which end goes in first?..or from which side/direction?..i am going to do my first build.
Professional I believe at one time I may have mattered. I myself looked at the assembly and do not see any reason it can’t go either way. Only reason you start with smooth part first is less friction when driving it in.
It doesn't. The hammer pin has a groove in the middle and on the trigger pin it's at the end. The hammer has an internal spring that sits in the channel of the hammer pin and one of the two hammer spring legs on either side will seat in the channel of the trigger pin, to keep them from walking out. If both pins are the same, with cuts at the ends and middle, it makes even less of a difference.
Fat end up on disconnect spring. The spring gets bound up with fat end down. It will still pivot but you can feel it catching with your finger. Also.. look closely, the "toe" on the sear won't ride inside skinny end as it should. Only fits fat end.
The hammer and trigger pins are the same. 3 grooves. Two end grooves for hammer spring legs to lay in and keep trigger in from walking out. Center groove for hammer, little spring leg inside the hammer hole, keeps hammer pin from walking out. Safety/selector goes in first where it interacts with the trigger and disconnector assembly. Can not install safety after trigger. Safety, trigger, hammer, in that order.
Just wanted to say that when he says/shows placing the disconnector into the channel of the trigger, that is the WRONG thing/way to do this. MUCH easier to put the springed trigger down into the lower and THEN after placing the slave pin in from one side and the cross pin in from the other side (leaving just enough open space - width of the disconnector - between the slave pin and the cross pin) to then place the hole of the disconnector down into the trigger channel right into the small open space between the ends of the slave pin and the cross pin and then all you have to do is push the cross pin thru with your finger (note, no hammer or anything else needed) and that cross pin will slide across the small opening and thru to the other side of the lower receiver just as slick as a whistle !!!
As a gunsmith student I just wreck my brain until I notice something you can’t install FCG without installing safety switch it’s a big part of helping align the roll pins for trigger and disconnector.
You are correct.I waited to install the safety until after I put the trigger and hammer in on a AR 10 build.After a brief moment of panic I thought I was going to have to take the hammer and trigger back out.(I had a hell of a time getting the trigger pin in and I sure didn't want to take it back out)but I tried cocking the hammer back and the safety selector went right in.Whew!@@cgibsoniii1
Pins from the left to the right, un-grooved ends first... I'm always worried about putting the pins in correctly. The grooves are shifted on the pins, I think I get what he's saying...
Getting very frustrated at the moment because I do not have a slave pin so I can’t get the trigger and the spring to hold itself while I put it in the lowet
nah, that's getting the trigger pin through the sides, then through the hole in Sear. You have to line up a hole under spring pressure on part that is fighting different spring forces. Without a drift pin guide, it can be were those missile detent on the Pivot Pin , which you should do inside clear bag, so if they try to go flying they are caught in the bag. Making easy to find. Getting the hammer spring on backwards is very common and easy to mistake but easily fixed
Good video except for the trigger/hammer assembly section. All we can see is fingers and the part is being moved around so fast it's hard to see what's going on. Suggest holding the part up for a few seconds to show what things should look like after each step on the next one.
I'm no pro but listen closely to the verbal instruction. Think about what part is under spring tension and then replicate that. It would help to see it, yes, but he explains what the camera angles don't. When it came apart I thought it would be a bitch to reassemble, but it's not as bad as removing an A2 gas block. Also I dry fire a lower all the time, oops.
I don't know what everyone is complaining about, even with the fingers in the way he showed enough to figure it out. Maybe you shouldn't be building a rifle if you can't figure it out from this video?
Probably newbies or people that won't take the time to learn and will take it to a gunsmith for a cleaning or detail strip that can be done at home. If you do it enough times, you will know by memory what each part is and where it goes.
Let's not bother with describing the parts so you will know what we are talking about. Which way is the front on the doohickey so I can put the open side of the watchimicallit facing the front.
Too fast, too few a views of the assemblies and the installation of the fire control components into the lower. The tutorial should have been around 8 -10 minutes and not rushed at < 4 minutes! Graded as a D+ only.
@@vintageguitarz1 Why do you want any of that? It's 2 springs and a couple of parts held in with pins; just make sure the sure the springs are the right way round and slam it together. There are dozens if not hundreds of other videos showing the same procedure, go watch them instead of wasting time yapping at people in the comments. I don't know why you're not giving that feedback to Midway, instead addressing it to me when I clearly disagree with your assertions anyway.
Im almost 100% he oriented the disconnecter spring the wrong way… I’ve “built” my fair share of lowers and unless I’m doing it wrong… the wide end of the spring goes facing up not down. And if I am wrong… years later no malfunction to speak of. The spring should naturally fit, if you put the wide end down first, there’s some resistance… because it doesn’t fit at all. This video isn’t for starters and a “slave” pin isn’t necessary (neither is a vice block) but makes life easier. If it’s your first time… ignore this video.
Make sure you don't include any useful images to show orientation of the springs and make sure you have your fingers in the way and use a useless angle to illustrate the assembled parts.
ive built about 10 ARs to this video, Without a vice just a hammer and punch set. It helps to know how to put the spring on the trigger. This video doesn't help with that.
spring orientation is at the beginning of the video when they are sitting on the bench.
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These AR Stoner trigger assemblies SUCK!!!! Mine will fire if the hammer only goes down one click - bottom notch engaging - but if it goes all the way down, which it will do EVERY time you cock it with the upper on, then the hook on the disengage hooks over the lower hook of the hammer and WILL NOT FIRE!!! Ihave to take a small drift pin to push down on the back of the disengage to get it to go back to the first position. And, YES, EVERYTHING IS INSTALLED CORRECTLY. I found another video that shows how to do it in detail right here on TH-cam.
Yeah, bad video, half the content is missing. Extremely fast, no clear explanation. Causes more confusion than anything. I’ve built over 20 and this video was a test and it failed. Miserably.
99% of the people watching this didn't learn anything... You need to show how the hammer spring legs get bent backwards almost 180° and sit on the trigger pin while you fight the hammer in.
Seriously… that’s what I came here to see… and oops let me just skip a few steps.
Thank you for posting that, I thought I was going insane. Looking at my finished rifle then watching this was a true wtf moment, lol.
First time assembling one and I didn’t have a problem at all besides my safety selector wouldn’t go in because of the trigger fit or something else
@@TripAMD I agree it could of been explained more but the video is still good and so far yeah because I did it all last night and even had a different lower kit. Other than the lower being out of spec or the trigger being to fall was my only problem
@@travenstevens6001. Did you get it all together in the end? Sometimes you gotta lightly file down the burs around the flat side of the safety selector. It also goes in before the pistol grip or it won't fit. What brand lower are you using? Andersons can be a little funny sometimes, thats why im asking.
Can't see what you're doing with the hammer sir.
Terrible angles and cut scenes right?
Yeah for sure. What a waste
He was using a potato to make the video
He accidentally used Maxwell's silver hammer
I got my penis stuck in the Magwell with the "help" of this video
Let's make sure our fingers obscure any useful views of the only challenging part of a lower build! Yeah - and maybe we can hurry through it to really keep our audience guessing! Lol. I feel like I've been Brownelled.
Haha omg seriously! “Now position the hammer into the receiver” and good luck completely guessing how to insert the springs. I mean cmon guys
😂😂😂😂
Yeah what a dumbshit video. And we all have that slave pin, it comes with all AR-15's.
“And hurry up because i dont want youtube to catch me”.
WTF Larry! Slow and smooth and smooth is fast.
Yeah I was suprised I got it done ( had to kind of guess and go till it worked😂)
This was my first lower receiver build. I have replaced several triggers with single stage modules. I have watched several other videos on the lower receiver to see trigger install. I did have to watch the part of installing the hammer three times to catch spring positioning. Any improvements suggestions would be to stop and include a good look inside housing showing spring placement. Thank you
Yeah I don't understand the spring positioning on the hammer install. The only thing that's not clear from this video. Gonna call a buddy
Nice video of your fingers. ill go find a video of a trigger assembly now
Dang! I've been doing wrong. I've never used my receiver block, and I've always put my pins in from the right without a slave pin.😅
Thank you for this video. I didn't have temporary slave pins, or a vice, but not difficult at all to reassemble it all with the help of this video.
simply use a piece of coat hanger works great keeps everything aligned and there usually in your closet already for free
Glad to see that guy still rocking and rolling I grew up watching him on Midway USA.
Also what the heck is with the ominous Final Fantasy music? Lol
Thank you Mr Porterfield. This was a big help.
The Brownells video is easier to follow with less fingers in the way
The music and pace of this video and panic inducing. That felt like an awful dream lol
Should we show how the springs assemble? Midway: nah, let's just make it as confusing as possible and show almost nothing. Oh and if boss man can keep his hands covering the important stuff, that'll make it even better.
It's extremely easy to assemble a trigger. How was this confusing? Maybe you shouldn't be handling firearms?
Every time I I build a lower regardless of how many times I've done it I always look at these videos. Thank you, Mr. Potter. It truly is a wonderful life, Geo. Bailey!
Not really a install video but a great assembly video. Made sure my hammer, trigger and trigger spring were facing the right direction just like demonstrated in the video. I used common sense for the installation and was able to take apart and install two triggers for my rifles 💯 thanks for the vid
thanks for blocking what i came here to figure out
Exactly, cant even see how it went in...
I’m building my AR as we speak and having the same problem
Optics planet has some $60 drop in flat face triggers that are better than factory triggers
The Mimtac drop in flat face triggers are nice for a $60 drop in flat face trigger
Thanks was a big help to me . Some of the camera angles could have shown more like the legs on the spring. you did say they rested on the pin that was good enough for me.
Thank you, for some reason, a lot of AR-15 build videos seen to not talk about that disconnector spring, and what orientation to put it in.
You can hold the hammer with your palm and dry fire allowing the hammer to come back easy.
You showed me something the rest of the videos didn’t show the spring 0:42
Why can i not find a video that actually shows how the hammer spring sets
The one piece I’m having trouble with and he ducking skips it
Can't see anything... which direction do the trigger pins go in?
Excellent and informative video! Thank you!
Thank you. I took apart a trigger assembly and paid attention to the layout and detail, the standard of triage or troubleshooting. It became excruciatingly clear that Eugene Stoner had a mind like a steel trap and that I would be putting back together something so deceptively simple. After wards, I felt as if I understood my weapon in a complete level of detail that would allow me to advance my learning and begin purchasing the unnecessary yet highly advantageous tools where I could call myself an armorer of said system. That little pin, gosh darn that makes it so much easier.
My god...what did you go through sir? I have an ALG trigger Im about to install...invoke me with your words of inspiration to allow me to get through this build.
@@SgtJohnRemairez lmao, nah, just when you open something, make sure to take note of subcomponent position. Never did anything crazier than a laptop or watch, but the lessons learned paid forward when taking apart a trigger group. The engineering, it makes me feel dumb. Maybe not dumb, but humbled af.
That is for making it so easy. I did mine in five minutes .
Thank you for this video it really helps to be able to understand how to install the trigger and everything in to the lower I received the whole AR 9 build kit from SDI the AR 9 build kit is made by panther arms and the way the trigger goes Into the lower in this video is exactly how the trigger goes in my AR 9 lower.
in regard to the trigger and hammer pins..does it really make any difference which end goes in first?..or from which side/direction?..i am going to do my first build.
robert gorham no one on the planet knows. That top secret info was taken to the grave with mister Stoner
Professional I believe at one time I may have mattered. I myself looked at the assembly and do not see any reason it can’t go either way. Only reason you start with smooth part first is less friction when driving it in.
It doesn't. The hammer pin has a groove in the middle and on the trigger pin it's at the end. The hammer has an internal spring that sits in the channel of the hammer pin and one of the two hammer spring legs on either side will seat in the channel of the trigger pin, to keep them from walking out. If both pins are the same, with cuts at the ends and middle, it makes even less of a difference.
disconnect spring must be installed with wider end DOWN, it will position itself
tighter into recessed cutout.
Dude, thank you for this. I’m over here like why the hell is it not pivoting…
Fat end up on disconnect spring. The spring gets bound up with fat end down. It will still pivot but you can feel it catching with your finger. Also.. look closely, the "toe" on the sear won't ride inside skinny end as it should. Only fits fat end.
Thanks for the useful video up to the hammer install with ur fingers blocking every piece of vital Info
how do you get the holes to line up? he hammer is always in the way
My hammer won’t spring up! I have to press it down to have it catch but it won’t spring up when I pull the trigger
I bet this video didn't help at all either...
Spring in backwards. Not that you could tell from the video.
Put the safety selector switch in first.
The hammer and trigger pins are the same. 3 grooves. Two end grooves for hammer spring legs to lay in and keep trigger in from walking out. Center groove for hammer, little spring leg inside the hammer hole, keeps hammer pin from walking out. Safety/selector goes in first where it interacts with the trigger and disconnector assembly. Can not install safety after trigger. Safety, trigger, hammer, in that order.
Usually like your videos, but you can't see anything
Just wanted to say that when he says/shows placing the disconnector into the channel of the trigger, that is the WRONG thing/way to do this. MUCH easier to put the springed trigger down into the lower and THEN after placing the slave pin in from one side and the cross pin in from the other side (leaving just enough open space - width of the disconnector - between the slave pin and the cross pin) to then place the hole of the disconnector down into the trigger channel right into the small open space between the ends of the slave pin and the cross pin and then all you have to do is push the cross pin thru with your finger (note, no hammer or anything else needed) and that cross pin will slide across the small opening and thru to the other side of the lower receiver just as slick as a whistle !!!
Thanks for the alternate method!
It would of been eternally useful if u showed how the hammer spring sits inside the receiver
Where or how do I make a slave pin? My build didn’t come with one.
Thank you Larry
As a gunsmith student I just wreck my brain until I notice something you can’t install FCG without installing safety switch it’s a big part of helping align the roll pins for trigger and disconnector.
Not if the hammer is cocked :)
You are correct.I waited to install the safety until after I put the trigger and hammer in on a AR 10 build.After a brief moment of panic I thought I was going to have to take the hammer and trigger back out.(I had a hell of a time getting the trigger pin in and I sure didn't want to take it back out)but I tried cocking the hammer back and the safety selector went right in.Whew!@@cgibsoniii1
The little slave pin is usually not included in parts kits. This is probably made from a nail
I cut the smooth end off of a #30 drill bit.
It's not needed. The pins will only go in if the holes are aligned, and you can check if they are on the sides.
I used a scrap piece of 12 awg copper wire with the insulation left on. It may be expended, but the price is right.
Pins from the left to the right, un-grooved ends first... I'm always worried about putting the pins in correctly. The grooves are shifted on the pins, I think I get what he's saying...
Thank you Larry. You make it easier to assemble. Hard to find simple easy videos on assembly
Getting very frustrated at the moment because I do not have a slave pin so I can’t get the trigger and the spring to hold itself while I put it in the lowet
Break a Q Tip in half cut to size. Use your imagination. Ou got this.
For anyone struggling to get the hammer installed with the pin. Move the selector to the fire position and its cake from there.
How can I purchase this part?
Installing the hammer is the hardest part of the entire job.
nah, that's getting the trigger pin through the sides, then through the hole in Sear. You have to line up a hole under spring pressure on part that is fighting different spring forces. Without a drift pin guide, it can be were those missile detent on the Pivot Pin , which you should do inside clear bag, so if they try to go flying they are caught in the bag. Making easy to find.
Getting the hammer spring on backwards is very common and easy to mistake but easily fixed
Don’t you insert the small end of the spring into the trigger and not the large end?
No. The large end of the spring goes into the recess in the trigger to ensure it stays located at all times
how am I supposed to focus on the hammer when all that emerald gold bling is in the way😂
Good video except for the trigger/hammer assembly section. All we can see is fingers and the part is being moved around so fast it's hard to see what's going on. Suggest holding the part up for a few seconds to show what things should look like after each step on the next one.
Awesome video thank you for sharing God bless...
I'm no pro but listen closely to the verbal instruction. Think about what part is under spring tension and then replicate that. It would help to see it, yes, but he explains what the camera angles don't. When it came apart I thought it would be a bitch to reassemble, but it's not as bad as removing an A2 gas block. Also I dry fire a lower all the time, oops.
Its not that bad (even though the comments are totally right) if you just hear exactly what their telling you.
I don't know what everyone is complaining about, even with the fingers in the way he showed enough to figure it out. Maybe you shouldn't be building a rifle if you can't figure it out from this video?
Probably newbies or people that won't take the time to learn and will take it to a gunsmith for a cleaning or detail strip that can be done at home. If you do it enough times, you will know by memory what each part is and where it goes.
Great job not showing anyone!
lol now i know why i purchase a complete lower receiver.
Does anyone have an extra pair of these they are willing to gave away
Why would you jump cut the exact part that people came here for: how to put in the hammer.
There is something really wrong with this video.
It's showing the trigger pin being installed when it should show the hammer pin being installed.
Let's not bother with describing the parts so you will know what we are talking about. Which way is the front on the doohickey so I can put the open side of the watchimicallit facing the front.
Thanks a lot for this video, I built my first awesome AR pistol.
Let’s also not tell people that you need to install the safety first or you have to take everything out and do it all over
My upper kit didn’t come with a slave pin
Thanks for the tutorial, straightforward and brief as usual!
Too fast, too few a views of the assemblies and the installation of the fire control components into the lower. The tutorial should have been around 8 -10 minutes and not rushed at < 4 minutes! Graded as a D+ only.
@@vintageguitarz1 Why do you want any of that? It's 2 springs and a couple of parts held in with pins; just make sure the sure the springs are the right way round and slam it together. There are dozens if not hundreds of other videos showing the same procedure, go watch them instead of wasting time yapping at people in the comments.
I don't know why you're not giving that feedback to Midway, instead addressing it to me when I clearly disagree with your assertions anyway.
Here’s a view of my hand while I work behind it
You didn't show us how to attach the hammer to the trigger.
thank you,
Im almost 100% he oriented the disconnecter spring the wrong way… I’ve “built” my fair share of lowers and unless I’m doing it wrong… the wide end of the spring goes facing up not down. And if I am wrong… years later no malfunction to speak of. The spring should naturally fit, if you put the wide end down first, there’s some resistance… because it doesn’t fit at all. This video isn’t for starters and a “slave” pin isn’t necessary (neither is a vice block) but makes life easier. If it’s your first time… ignore this video.
Absolutely cannot see the hammer and how that spring is oriented.
be nice if you showed a close up of what your doing with the hammer. you can talk all you want but we came here for a video.
Put the safety selector in first
Can’t see anything but fingers 😂😂😂
why would you block the one thing people want to see when putting in hammer lol!
Make sure you don't include any useful images to show orientation of the springs and make sure you have your fingers in the way and use a useless angle to illustrate the assembled parts.
You should put your hand in the way and do it faster and not show the end deal it would make the video better.
Mine is stuck it doesn’t wanna fire
I have the same issue, hammer gets stuck even with proper placement of the springs
Try manually resetting it and work it a few times. They get sticky when they are new.
ive built about 10 ARs to this video, Without a vice just a hammer and punch set. It helps to know how to put the spring on the trigger. This video doesn't help with that.
8.5 lb pull is standard? Sureeeeee, and thanks for blocking out how you seated the hammer.
Thanks for having your fingers over the hammer so we can't see how you placed it in the assembly. Not helpful.
if you cant follow along to this you shouldn't be building a sandwich let alone a firearm
This would of been great at like 3x less the speed
u don't show the spring origination at all, we just see your fingers ?
spring orientation is at the beginning of the video when they are sitting on the bench.
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Capitalize on Americans' FEAR? Should you STAY in business??? Let's ask the rest of the Gun Community.
Yes
After more than a minute of watching…..I knew this was not a replacement video. Totally mis labeled and not even a how to on trigger replacement.
These AR Stoner trigger assemblies SUCK!!!! Mine will fire if the hammer only goes down one click - bottom notch engaging - but if it goes all the way down, which it will do EVERY time you cock it with the upper on, then the hook on the disengage hooks over the lower hook of the hammer and WILL NOT FIRE!!! Ihave to take a small drift pin to push down on the back of the disengage to get it to go back to the first position. And, YES, EVERYTHING IS INSTALLED CORRECTLY. I found another video that shows how to do it in detail right here on TH-cam.
Put the safety in
Too fast to catch what he was doing
Thanks for completely skipping over the hammer…..lame
This dude skipped a step smh
All those filming mistakes, and do you think they will bother to remove the video, or heaven forbid do redo it correctly? NOPE.
Can't see what you doing with the hammer
th-cam.com/video/bdK6hnHMHYc/w-d-xo.html = Here's the instructions you'll need
th-cam.com/video/O901e-Nd4Ow/w-d-xo.html = Another resource that's better than this Potterfield video.
Yay. No trigger comes with a "slave pin" lol
Yea, any idea where to get that helper pin?
This video lacks all the important details people use these videos for lol
Yeah, bad video, half the content is missing. Extremely fast, no clear explanation. Causes more confusion than anything. I’ve built over 20 and this video was a test and it failed. Miserably.
I’m pretty sure this is the worst install video I’ve ever seen in my life
👏👏👏👏👏💪💪💪💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸
Useless video unless u want to pause and replay 100 times
Not a good instructional video at all. Trying to be a hand model or something?? Do better.
Terrible instructions
Go faster next time...
Your hands block the way you are positioning stuff and can’t tell correct way springs go