I had the same experience with Behr deck over paint. Some how water gets trapped under the paint and in the wood turning everything to crap. What a job sanding, scraping, replacing boards. Going with a Cabot solid deck oil stain after I clean off the previous junk! Live and learn!
I couldn't have worded this better myself. This is exactly what happens. If you haven't seen it already, check this out - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html This is how I repaired my deck.
Your deck looks exactly like mine after using the same product. My son and I sat out there are we were able to pull up about 75% of it by hand. And the wood was soaked underneath. I used an angle grinder with a diamabrush attachment to remove the rest. Will sand and then use a stain. Will never use Deck over ever again!!
I used Behr DeckOver on my cedar deck a few years ago and had the same results. I don’t believe that the product is necessarily bad because it does adhere well and for a long time on deck railings, spindles, etc. that are COATED ON ALL 4 SIDES. I think that when you coat a deck board on 1 SIDE, it’s just a matter of time before water soaks into the sides and bottom of the board and with a little sun and evaporation the water vapor tries to escape up and through the DeckOver. The result is peeling paint. I ended up sanding off all the DeckOver with a belt sander and using a semi-transparent deck stain (Ready Seal) and the results are great. The boards can “breathe” and the oil-based stain actually seals the wood from moisture intrusion. Sure, you need to re-apply it every 1-2 years but that is relatively easy. The end result is a beautiful and effective deck finish with good looks and some water sealing to help ward off rot.
The railings n spindles are different wood so the absorbing of the material is different from the floor planks. Try sanding the floor planks fist not pressure wash n apply deckover 3 days after it rains n 3 days before it rains n watch the difference
Same problem only I have an much older deck, but peeling off like crazy. The stuff is crap!! Looked great for a year or two but totally crappy product!!
There are two choices for a wood deck -- a solid-colored product that looks good and will peel, or a transparent or semi-transparent product that does next to nothing and will look discolored and awful long before it peels (like Thompson water seal). I've tried three different types of stain -- two applied by me, and one applied by a professional. The one applied by the professional lasted the shortest time even though it was supposedly the best product. I paid $700 for the deck to be stained, and it was peeling a year later. I then used a product from Menards that was supposed to be a better alternative to Behr Deckover. It was marketed as a "lifetime" finish. You had to mix it from a powder with a separate container full of dye. The prep time made Behr Deckover look like a walk in the park. I literally had to sand the deck down to bare wood per manufacturers instructions. A week later, I finally applied that product. Two years later, it was peeling badly despite following all the instructions. I am now trying Deckover... but here's my point. All stain will deteriorate unless you have pristine wood and perfect conditions (no extreme weather, low humidity, etc). In the real world, the only realistic long-term solution to this problem is to rip up the wood and replace it with composite. Other than that, you're kidding yourself if you think you're going to find a magic product that lasts more than a couple of years.
Oil based stains are the way to go...you have to keep up with them on a year by year basis but if maintained well, they get richer and fuller as time goes on, assuming you're reapplying every year or 2.
Thanks, I’m gonna with Veranda brand Composite decking (least expensive kind I can find and has a 15 year warranty). I tried Rustolium “Restore 10 X” and had the same problems (looked great the first summer, like crap by the spring 5 years in a row). Thanks again for the update bud👍🏽
Horrific. Best advice I can give you is get that off your deck asap as it will eventually promote wood rot. Then you're looking at replacing boards and / or your deck! Good luck. Sorry you're dealing with this. I know it all too well!
Terrible product! Sorry to hear this. Did you see my video on how I repaired my damaged deck? It may help - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Jk6ftcGas_VJLV3T
I have had the same experience , Deck Over is crap. Has me questioning the use of Behr products . This product is $#!t and I will never even think of using it ever again.
I have used Behr DeckOver as a professional painting contractor and have had good and bad experiences with it. For a few years, this product was all-the-rage as everyone wanted it for their decks, but I would not recommend using it. This video reminds me of my next door neighbors' deck as the coating is peeling and is wet underneath, however, the coating on his rails and balusters still looks good. Horizontal surfaces always take a beating on decks, but the product should last several years. I would recommend removing as much loose DeckOver on the deck as possible, sand and clean the surface and then apply at least two coats of a paint or stain.
BTW, Behr is of little help and they sent me a long questionnaire and a request for samples of the DeckOver that peeled, I doubt they will offer any help
Same thing happen to us. Desk is a mess. I called Behr and report the issue and sent pictures of my deck. They in-turn sent me 3 gallons to repaint my deck. There is a class action law suite filed for DeckOver.
Mine lasted 6 months and peeled in areas. Have you removed the rest yet. What a pain in the azz. Worst product ever. I missed the class action law suit.
I couldn't agree more. This season, my wife and I decided to give up and rip the entire deck apart and replace with new. We went with Trex. Coating my pressure treated wood with this garbage discouraged me from using wood again. So far we're very happy with the Trex deck.
Same thing happened to me with same exact product, PIECE OF SHIT DECK OVER. Should instead be called : BEND OVER ! cause that's what happens when you buy this crap !
@@JaysDMC Thanks, i guess its scraping time for me then ! One thing for sure, i will never ever buy anymore Behr products. That's it. But nice job on fixing yours.
SAME EXACT PROBLEM. It is like looking at my own deck. I too have a couple of boards where the water got trapped underneath the stain and rotted, just like your's. Awful product. I am peeling mine up. It is not coming up quite as easy, I am using a scraper. Any tips for removing this crap?
The boards got VERY expensive now as well! When we originally built this deck I want to say they were around 12 bucks a piece. Now those boards are 29 dollars at my local Home Depot!!!
I was burned by this crap, too. Im so disappointed and now looking for ways to rid the dicked-over. I will try to see if I can latch on to the class action suit and try to remove/replace in the meantime. Any suggestions for a solvent to remove and what stain to use after? Sorry and Thank You!
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I had the same experience with Behr deck over paint. Some how water gets trapped under the paint and in the wood turning everything to crap. What a job sanding, scraping, replacing boards. Going with a Cabot solid deck oil stain after I clean off the previous junk! Live and learn!
I couldn't have worded this better myself. This is exactly what happens.
If you haven't seen it already, check this out - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
This is how I repaired my deck.
Your deck looks exactly like mine after using the same product. My son and I sat out there are we were able to pull up about 75% of it by hand. And the wood was soaked underneath. I used an angle grinder with a diamabrush attachment to remove the rest. Will sand and then use a stain. Will never use Deck over ever again!!
Sounds very familiar!!! Here's a video on how I repaired my deck. You might find it helpful th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
I used Behr DeckOver on my cedar deck a few years ago and had the same results. I don’t believe that the product is necessarily bad because it does adhere well and for a long time on deck railings, spindles, etc. that are COATED ON ALL 4 SIDES. I think that when you coat a deck board on 1 SIDE, it’s just a matter of time before water soaks into the sides and bottom of the board and with a little sun and evaporation the water vapor tries to escape up and through the DeckOver. The result is peeling paint. I ended up sanding off all the DeckOver with a belt sander and using a semi-transparent deck stain (Ready Seal) and the results are great. The boards can “breathe” and the oil-based stain actually seals the wood from moisture intrusion. Sure, you need to re-apply it every 1-2 years but that is relatively easy. The end result is a beautiful and effective deck finish with good looks and some water sealing to help ward off rot.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Glad you were able to salvage your deck!
The railings n spindles are different wood so the absorbing of the material is different from the floor planks. Try sanding the floor planks fist not pressure wash n apply deckover 3 days after it rains n 3 days before it rains n watch the difference
Same problem only I have an much older deck, but peeling off like crazy. The stuff is crap!! Looked great for a year or two but totally crappy product!!
my best advice is to get it off ASAP. I waited too long and ended up wrecking parts of my deck.
There are two choices for a wood deck -- a solid-colored product that looks good and will peel, or a transparent or semi-transparent product that does next to nothing and will look discolored and awful long before it peels (like Thompson water seal). I've tried three different types of stain -- two applied by me, and one applied by a professional. The one applied by the professional lasted the shortest time even though it was supposedly the best product. I paid $700 for the deck to be stained, and it was peeling a year later. I then used a product from Menards that was supposed to be a better alternative to Behr Deckover. It was marketed as a "lifetime" finish. You had to mix it from a powder with a separate container full of dye. The prep time made Behr Deckover look like a walk in the park. I literally had to sand the deck down to bare wood per manufacturers instructions. A week later, I finally applied that product. Two years later, it was peeling badly despite following all the instructions. I am now trying Deckover... but here's my point. All stain will deteriorate unless you have pristine wood and perfect conditions (no extreme weather, low humidity, etc). In the real world, the only realistic long-term solution to this problem is to rip up the wood and replace it with composite. Other than that, you're kidding yourself if you think you're going to find a magic product that lasts more than a couple of years.
I'm happy to restain the deck ever few years as long as it doesn't destroy the wood it protects. This stuff traps in moisture and ruins it.
Oil based stains are the way to go...you have to keep up with them on a year by year basis but if maintained well, they get richer and fuller as time goes on, assuming you're reapplying every year or 2.
Thanks, I’m gonna with Veranda brand Composite decking (least expensive kind I can find and has a 15 year warranty). I tried Rustolium “Restore 10 X” and had the same problems (looked great the first summer, like crap by the spring 5 years in a row). Thanks again for the update bud👍🏽
No worries! Best of luck!!!
I've been peeling that crap off my deck all morning! It's a terrible product!
Horrific. Best advice I can give you is get that off your deck asap as it will eventually promote wood rot. Then you're looking at replacing boards and / or your deck! Good luck. Sorry you're dealing with this. I know it all too well!
My deck looks like this too. It is a shame.
Terrible product! Sorry to hear this. Did you see my video on how I repaired my damaged deck? It may help - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Jk6ftcGas_VJLV3T
I have had the same experience , Deck Over is crap. Has me questioning the use of Behr products . This product is $#!t and I will never even think of using it ever again.
This may help - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
this is how I fixed my desk that the Behr Deckover destroyed.
I have used Behr DeckOver as a professional painting contractor and have had good and bad experiences with it. For a few years, this product was all-the-rage as everyone wanted it for their decks, but I would not recommend using it. This video reminds me of my next door neighbors' deck as the coating is peeling and is wet underneath, however, the coating on his rails and balusters still looks good. Horizontal surfaces always take a beating on decks, but the product should last several years. I would recommend removing as much loose DeckOver on the deck as possible, sand and clean the surface and then apply at least two coats of a paint or stain.
I appreciate the advice. Exactly what I'm doing. Thank you!!!
BTW, Behr is of little help and they sent me a long questionnaire and a request for samples of the DeckOver that peeled, I doubt they will offer any help
Based on what others have told me, they won't. Such a shame...
Same thing happen to us. Desk is a mess. I called Behr and report the issue and sent pictures of my deck. They in-turn sent me 3 gallons to repaint my deck. There is a class action law suite filed for DeckOver.
Mine lasted 6 months and peeled in areas. Have you removed the rest yet. What a pain in the azz. Worst product ever. I missed the class action law suit.
Yes I have. This may help - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
Terrible product. Would never use again
I couldn't agree more. This season, my wife and I decided to give up and rip the entire deck apart and replace with new. We went with Trex. Coating my pressure treated wood with this garbage discouraged me from using wood again. So far we're very happy with the Trex deck.
It's become an outside hobby for us. Every time we go out I'm picking a new spot to peal up.
HA HA same here!
Take a look when you can th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
Yep! Us too!
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Same thing happened to me with same exact product, PIECE OF SHIT DECK OVER. Should instead be called : BEND OVER ! cause that's what happens when you buy this crap !
Sorry to hear that. Check out how I fixed the deck this product ruined on me - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
@@JaysDMC Thanks, i guess its scraping time for me then ! One thing for sure, i will never ever buy anymore Behr products. That's it. But nice job on fixing yours.
SAME EXACT PROBLEM. It is like looking at my own deck. I too have a couple of boards where the water got trapped underneath the stain and rotted, just like your's. Awful product. I am peeling mine up. It is not coming up quite as easy, I am using a scraper. Any tips for removing this crap?
Yes. Here's what I did - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
Will never recommend that pain to anyone .. trying to clean it is the worst… plus i have to replace few boards … never again
The boards got VERY expensive now as well! When we originally built this deck I want to say they were around 12 bucks a piece. Now those boards are 29 dollars at my local Home Depot!!!
I was burned by this crap, too. Im so disappointed and now looking for ways to rid the dicked-over. I will try to see if I can latch on to the class action suit and try to remove/replace in the meantime. Any suggestions for a solvent to remove and what stain to use after? Sorry and Thank You!
I plan on pressure watching my desk in the next few weeks. I don't think it'll put up much of a fight.
@@JaysDMC I'll take some before and afters, then post to this. I'm pissed every time I look out at the deck
Jay's, are you going to sand to good wood, before you stain? And what kind/brand of stain might you go with?
@@blablablugh Same here my friend! I already have replacement boards I'll be putting in as soon as it warms up here.
@@JaysDMC I am seeing that Sherwin Williams has a decently rated stain that I might try to go with.
Did you use something else ?
Yes i did. This should help. th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
I benjamin moore arborcoat.. cost more but you will not be disappointed.
I'll look into that. Thank you for the suggestion.
I just put this on a deck and it not sticking it keep bubbling up and drive me nuts
It's the absolute worst
Same thing happened to me on my new deck .last for 1 year
Sorry to hear that. This is how I fixed my damaged deck -th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
Same thing happened to me. I choke someone from
Behr. Is downright criminal. The amount of work that I have had to put in fixing this is unbelievable.
@@mpinto2860 Such a terrible situation. If you want, this is how I fixed my situation - th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
What did you ultimately use?
I'm almost at the point where we're ready to stain. I'm going to use a regular stain this time, not a deck over "shell" type product.
This is what I used th-cam.com/video/0xfSL7N7SbA/w-d-xo.html
Just ended up painting my deck with this stuff. wondering if I should remove it using some wood cleaner or let it sit there.
Honestly, if the results will be anything like mine, it'll start peeling in about a years time which will make it easier to remove
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Remove it asap!
@@jepps2438 I agree!
You're not removing that with deck cleaner.