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Who's up for a Riot MMO LAN party at the retirement home?
Retirement guilds will be unstoppable
Broo that will actually be sick
@@Papierboyand if your character dies in game we kill you irl cus we’re all already old anyway. You know, for immersion.
Who's bringing the ointment for our old fingers? 😂
This is actually scary, makes me wonder is people will still be interested in MMO type games when it releases 7 years in the future.
"No news is good news"
Tell that to the Silksong fandom going through the 5 stages of grief for the 11th time and discussing who to sacrifice next to get a crumb of news.
At least Riot comes out swinging once it's time... Cant say the same about an indie company with 1 title (even though its a damn good title at that)
don t worry, it will come out this year......maybe................god i hope it does
@@laurentiustefan4069 ESRB ratings are promising. I'm hoping for some direct news soon
What disappointed me is that I don't know about everyone else, But I totally wanted to play just "an MMO" with a Runeterra coat of paint... (just make it horizontal not vertical and it's gonna be a W for me)
Totally. Make it horizontal then slowly add in vertical power creep cause horizontal sucks. While continously abandoning features in fear of requiring the player to ever do anything
GW2 was a failed experiment
@@TNTspaz GW2 didn't fail though?
Its buy once own forever no subs, the problem came from who happened to be in charge at the time. If you play during certain events or stop playing at the end of Lw4 GW2 is an awesome game with an incredible story. If you play the story after that though you see the cracks as what followed was a story pushed during covid lockdowns which was done really badly, and then their expansion EOD which cost them over half their playerbase with how bad the expansion was and everything that followed.
Its a story based game essentially that truly ends at living world 4. if you stopped playing then, you leave GW2 loving it.
Just 1 to 1 copy most of the shit from FF14 (with modern netcode) and ramp that shit up with their stellar art team, get some solid writers to make a multiple expansion long story and its probably the best MMO of our lives no need to reinvent the wheel.
I'm proud of them for choosing the invention route instead of the industrial standard safe and working copy paste model.
They taking a huge risk and I hope they succeed.
@@undercoverspy123 As good as ff14 is I wouldn't want to copy it and put a runeterra coat of paint on it. Riots mmo should be unique to them while improving on pervious idea's. One big one is raiding, ff14 raids are okay but nothing amazing. Once you know a fight it's easy since all fights are almost like a dance where once you know how/where to move you know the whole fight.
It’s funny to say they are “going dark for several years” as if they haven’t been doing this since announcing it. We’ve gotten nothing beyond an announcement that they are making it.
Quite literally we've gotten next to nothing. Ghostcrawler would give tweets on game design every now and again, but we've gotten nothing solid at all. Going dark is what we have been doing for five years lol.
@@slipstream5762 it's only been like 3 1/2 years
And yet fans are eating it up like it's the second coming. kekw
@@giantdad391 true, shave off a year and a half, time gets from me sometimes I suppose
I think it's fine, really. They should only really start pumping out updates once the game starts becoming more solid
We will be playing this shit on crossplay with the PS7, Xbox series Z and Nintendo Switch III i cannot wait see you boys in 2040
I dont shur that I will be alive to this time
@@lordweider3281 I will not be making it to the end of the year💯💯
@@lordweider3281 at this point the only reason I'mma be living past 40 is so I can make sure I'm here to play the Riot MMO
Didn't Microsoft abandoned the idea of new xbox's ?
I think that switch'es name would be Nintendo Switch QQueueLed at this point xD
It's worth reminding that Arcane had the same treatment, the first version wasn't greenlighted and they had to pretty much remade the thing, you can watch about it in the making off.
It's way easier to remake a show than a game
I was honestly looking forward to a straight forward MMO from a well funded, high quality control studio. I will hold out hope that whatever they come up with will be really awesome and surprise me. I'm just kinda sad that we don't get a good classic style MMO.
Same man, see you in 15 years!
Watch it be an OSRS clone lol
At this rate we'll see Star Citizen finished before the Riot MMO
Actually might be true at least for 1.0
Yesnt😂
They are competing with dwarf frotress
And Hytale
Wait that shit still not out?
So i kinda wanna cope and think 'overwatch was released just 2 years after titan was scrapped' but i know for a fact ill be loading this bad boy up with my 3 grandkids in a care home
OW2 was an MMO that got reduced to a Hero Shooter... they basically only kept the art-ish for it, and creating a couple of small maps and 3 abilities per hero is VERY different to comparing an Open World Map with some 10-20 abilities per hero :|
Riot even if they scrapped everything except the art and maaaybe some of the maps they made, it's not east to create something NEW and INNOVATIVE and GROUNDBREAKING in a MMO compared to... what? Every other shooter that existed before? But now you have shields and more HP?
I mean an mmo normally takes "2 - 4 years" to make from scratch so it should be possible but sadly this is Riot, the company that apparently gets to work at 10am, fucks around and then starts work after their 11:30am lunchbreak
might as well wait 5 years, i don't mind
@@FyreNail2 no, it doesnt take just 2-4 years unless its more of an old school MMO that doesnt require as much, like runescape. an MMO take at least 5++ years, especially in these day of age, as ppl dont really want old scool MMO anymore and want something new, exciting and different, so it will take a long time
don't even mention overwatch. i still miss owning my beautiful game....
Talking about big MMOs and not mentioning Oldschool Runescape. Big crime.
He talks about classic wow as if runescape didn't do it all first.
As soon as Greg left the project only for him to open up his own studio months later, i knew the project was slowly collapsing.
Why? He did what he was supposed to he established a team for the game...i dont think he was ever meant to stay and advise thru the whole process of creating the game
wat project?
He didnt leave to open his own, he left because of personal reasons. He actually wanted to come back after he started feeling better, he got bunch of offers from other studios etc, but iirc tencent offered him literally everything every permission etc. so he accepted that as a lead.
I waited 1800 days for Pentakill 3. I can wait a few thousand more.
yeah now we are waiting for pentakill 4
@@keremaydn5528 we are? I thought we all left after 3, it's been only downhill from there anyways.
@@durandmefew no way we left. I loved part 3 and viegos parts are kinda good. It's sad that he will not be there for us on chapter 4
@@durandmefew ''we all left after 3'' ??? brother ??? take down that heresy
@@durandmefew Speaketh for thyself
We really will get GTA 6 before Riot's MMO..
Maybe GTA 7
We're as far away from GTA V release as from RIOT MMO release
we were always gonna get GTA 6 before the riot MMO bro. GTA 6 is out 3rd 1/4 of next year
@@connormoorerocks wtf is a 3rd 1/4? did you mean 3/4 ?
Bro gta 6 was announced for next year so yes
can't help but feel when it releases and im playing with 3 friends we will all be saying "wouldn't this be amazing with 1000+ players in the same world" and then we will stop playing because the idea of the game doesn't even come close to another 4 player coop game
Awesome video man! You are very good at stretching stories while giving us smooth information.
"we don't believe you all want an MMO that you've played before with a Runeterra coat of paint"
oh no...
they're doing THE THING every failed modern MMO does
So why aren't you
just play WoW instead of WoW clone.
They are correct though. Those all sucked and use outdated designs. The reason failed mmo's failed was because they didn't know why those otherwise terrible games have lasted so long.
LOL, your statement becomes more true the more I think about it 🤣😅
@@aquadactyl136 first of all, im not really an MMO player, im just observing the trends of the last few years. Im not asking for a WoW reskin I'm just saying that stuff like what Tryndamere said is one of the things it's said before a failed MMO. I really wish they prove me wrong tho
Oh god no. WoW is so shit.
Only Necrit can do a 20 min video using one tweet
I get that you're joking but this is an especially small brained take given how important the tweet is
I saw a 50 second tiktok explaining everything. Necrit does this job amazingly, adding references, his opinions and comedy, instead of just giving you raw information@@nuggyfresh6430
His reaction is a 50min video on the second channel
It was multiple tweets.
@@nuggyfresh6430 There's nothing important about it that Riot themselves would forget to mention in such an "important" tweet. The guy is stretching everything he gets his hands on to make some content. I wouldn't be surprised if he made a whole new channel just to talk about font used in the game.
Literally if they just released a xiv clone but with Runettera story, Id play the shit out of it
This, spend all your money on quality of voice acting, writing, world and set design make it the biggest riot game spectacle and then slap on your raids at the end.
exactly. thats precisely what i wanted.
Yeah because you guys are MMO boomers. No new audience is gonna pick up another game where every class can do everything within their role, there is an extremely repetitive bland 2 minute meta, and most bosses are literally just "stand in the right place and wait for your damage window". Especially since we already have 3 popular MMOs that do the exact same thing. With more coming in the future. Tab targeting and "combat" only exists as a compromise for the horrible 2 decade old netcode all these absolutely ancient games have.
@@FeiFongWang I've been playing mmos for 2 years.
@@undercoverspy123 Respectfully, it really doesn't matter if you've been playing for 10 hours or 10,000 hours, wanting a tab targeting theme park clone of ff14 is an MMO boomer opinion to hold. Over half of current MMO players are over 25, and the genre has a well known difficulty attracting a new player base that isn't just established players that look back fondly on the golden age of mmos. Adding another wow clone into what is essentially a well established decade old market isn't a very good creative decision, in my opinion, and it looks to be their opinion as well.
Old school RuneScape is also an incredible mmo, and is gaining a lot of traction. It doesn’t have traditional tanks or healers, but still crazy fun to do end game content
Riot not wanting to copy a game is hilarious
Well... They went out of their way to avoid adding Elves and Dwarves to be unique so yeah...
to be fair one of the founders was a dev on the dota mod for Warcraft 3
it might turned out to be disastrous
It’s not about not wanting to copy a game, it is about having a differentiating factor for their game to make sure it has its own place in the market.
League was the first fully free to play mobas and one of the earliest and most successful free to play games in general.
LOR was and is the only hearthstone-esque games to not be pay to win. It is genuinely not profitable, they can only keep it going because their other games do well profit-wise.
Valorant balances the concepts of fps and unique character abilities without leaning too heavy into either concept (unlike how csgo fully leans into standard fps or how overwatch fully leans into unique character abilities)
Even their 2xko has ways to differentiate itself from its competitors. Just because they don’t make the gameplay or concepts much different, doesn’t mean there is no differentiator. I find it crazy that people are upset with riot taking their time to make sure their MMO is actually good rather than shitting out a copy of what’s already on the market
literally lol their only good game was just DotA with a runeterra coat of paint.
The thing is
In my opinion Riot was never rly a visionary in the gaming industry fundamentals
They took what was there in the original Dota and made it better
They took Dota Auto-chess and made it better
They took what was there in CS and added their own spin to it
They took what was there in hearthstone and made their own game from it
They never reinvented the wheel, they just made some Damn good wheels
Why start now?
I'm sure an MMO that sticks to the basics of other MMO's already in the market and a few new and interesting mechanics that are always present in Riot games when compared to their competitors would have been a profitable approach, why give that up to make a "significant revolution of the genre"
They did not make things better for gameplay they just made it better for their revenue system..
Exactly. Riot hasn't made a single game/mechanic that made a precedent in the gaming industry. They making something that is not traditional is way more concerning than people think. People enjoy their games because they make what is rough out there better.
long story short their games are simplified for the masses and don't actually have a soul...
@@suemebanhme this is one of the dumbest comments I've read
@@suemebanhmedamn you are the type of guy who only plays indie game, claim its way better than AAA title without ever playing it, “judges” it with your own extremely bias and uneducated commentary and feel smug about it. Idek why are you here if you don’t like riot product
It's never coming out. They said they want it to do "something different," but it sounds like they still haven't figured out what they want it to do differently.
The multiplayer component of ME3 was made by Psyonix while they were in their outsourcing days before Rocket League popped off. It wasn't made by BioWare themselves.
Finding the One Piece or playing the MMO who will come out or be reveal first
One Piece. Its already got projections that the mmo couldn't possibly beat. Even if OP drags on it won't reach the MMO timeline.
@@Merilirem i know bro I'm just joking recent chapters go crazyyyy
zoro's putting the bandana on in chap 1112@@mukurowl1473
From the beginning, I didnt believe that they can make a MMO game in a normal time. It is a hard task to do especially for a game company that cant even manage 3 moba champion.
Hahahahahah im dyinggggg
this should be top comment ffs
I never really understood this narrative, for a game with 160 character it has crazy good balance and metas.
honestly im excited for them to try something big and new with the mmo. i havent really been into any mmos i played. the only two notable ones were runescape and tera, and that's only because i was playing them to hang out with people.
Riot's most successful games:
League - DOTA with a Runeterra coat of paint
TFT - DOTA Autochess with a Runeterra coat of paint
Promises of an ambitious project down the pipeline that everyone has huge hopes for? Sure, what can go wrong..
fr fr
This is gonna be either the biggest flop in the video game industry or the greatest thing to ever happen to it (that will later turn into complete shit)
No in-between
@@Permafrost1it will just stay as a what if, doubt it will even ever release. Maybe they will make a mobil3 game tho
The executive producer led projects at EA and BIOWARE. That shit filled my soul with dread.
Anthem and Andromeda...... yeah no way this shit is coming out
@@le1660 and even if it does, something tells me, very loudly, that it won't be that good (as if resetting your entire progress didn't do that already)
necrit literally explained why that is not a reason to panic
just because content man said it doesn't mean it's true@@vectas
Wait really? Why would riot even hire someone like that? It's sad
Its going to be a disastrous flop, a fireworks for all the wrong reasons. They are in development hell with this one and will end up like "Skull and Bones".
It wont release they are just shifting to some more profitable mobile game or smth
i really hope they will take inspiration of how world interaction works in Helldivers II. Totally different game, but you have one big game master, seasoning the map with events, interactions and push backs. This dynamic, of a living war/world, is awesome, and should be applied to multiplayer games overall.
no
After all of this.. I feel exactly the same about the MMO
I'd rather it come out good LATER, than come out shit SOONER.
It will come out AVERAGE later....
@@PheonixT-ki8rx thats the concern. At this point, its more likely it gets cancelled then they make the next Hades. but on an MMO scale.
Here is the sad truth, if they just had a vision and ran with it then it should at least be solid as long as its fun to play
or like PvE overwatch, they can say later and then not at all.
Later doesn't mean better nor good
Miyamoto quote. A delayed game is eventually good. A bad game is bad forever.
I hope they'll add some kind of GM system like in Helldivers where a global order gets announced every few days/week, and enemy strategies and spawns adapt to the player activity.
I wonder how much of this is planned to stir up the waters to see the reactions. I mean it would be a good way to see where people stand on things given how well Necrit here helps it along.
Very sad news, really hope it’s incredible when it comes out but sad to learn it’s getting this big of a setback
It won't be. They'll never be able to match the hype.
@@thevannmannimo they don't need to, they just need to deliver a good product
You don't know that tho@@thevannmann
nah they are gonna can it, if they are dehyping the mmo then it's already done-zo
Well.. I wish I'm still alive when that MMO arrives in 2089.
Ah, the MassEffect Citadel ambiance playing in the background has sent me on such a nostagia journey, I could barely feel any disappointment about the MMO news XD
Can’t wait for your gameplay in 3024 it be sick
I think they should go for a more story driven experience over anything. Like having the traditional grinding of an MMO is important but the Runeterra universe is special because of the ever expanding stories. Maybe some form of making your own story would benefit them over anything. (I was expecting a 2026 release or trailer... Can't wait to show my kids the new MMO.)
not gonna happen in an MMO, that'd be for single player gamer. The RPG in MMORPG means you make your own story regardless, but most gamers just press buttons these days, they dont really immerse themselves. They rush to endgame, watch streamers to min/max, then cry when all the content is consumed.
@ratburgler FF14 would like a word with you, that's an MMO that is very heavily lore driven
I think it would be possible to strike a balance between story and gameplay. I just hope they do a good amount of world building and make it feel alive
ngl i dont know many ppl that play ff14 for the lore, if they do it, it has to be worth it and be paid attention to by most@@cameronhubbuck
yeah FF14 already does this and is massively popular and the devs are some of the most respected in the industry, can confirm balled my eyes out at the end of Endwalker and wiped to boss mechs in fuckin normal cause I couldn't see through the tears.
8:30 play: create for demacia in hand
lmao
actually, it's on summon effect 🤓
kinda same but ur right havent played in a while@@nikoratzu6844
I think a big feature that every MMORPG needs to have is in-depth customization. Not just character creation, but also build opportunities, outfits, housings/homesteads. The best game to be not only has great character progression through levels and dungeons/raids, but also through community. I'm a serious RPer, every MMORPG I've played I scour and find some kind of roleplay community to be apart of. I like to invest my time into only a few, small handful of characters - mostly just one or two. That's what gets me to stay in an MMORPG for a very long time. So to hear this just makes me worried about what's to come to the Runeterra MMO.
Some test footage for external feedback before canning the whole thing would still be better than whatever they've been doing now, it'd be more believable if they say it's just not monetized enough or something
Bro said the only mmo that does this is classic wow. Must have forgotten about the MMO that was created before wow called Old School RuneScape
Did he just pull a blizzard and tell us we don’t actually know what we want? 😂
I mean he aint wrong, look at smash players.
"We don't want anymore anime swordfighters."
*freaks out about sora and sephiroth*
@@machinagenex101those guys aren’t generic, people love em. I don’t know anyone that gives af about fire emblem characters
@@machinagenex101 Ah yes, the smash mmo players.
@gflow3643 hey, I love lucina
I think it’s to a different degree, blizzard is more disrespectful with how they went about it. Riots gameplay earns a benefit of the doubt
It's funny, I would honestly probably love an MMO that I've played before but with a Runeterra coat of paint. Not saying I wont like what they're working on better, but I hope they're not trying to reinvent the genre just for the sake of being different. I don't mind if it's similar to stuff I've played before if that's the most fun version of it.
it all ties together the summer i spent playing mass effect legendary edition paying off
i hope its different from most MMO's, i find it really hard to bring myself to mindlessly slave away and grind on 90% of them so if they're actually trying to make this one different and hopefully more engaging then i'm all for waiting longer
when they say they don't want it to be just another MMO with a runeterra coat of paint, i can almost guarantee that they just want to make it more accessible for people who don't like the usual MMO grind
They previously said they want a game that you can come back to without fomo. So casual driven and has content for hardcore grinders but mostly focused on casuals where they play for few months take few months break to play new releases and come back without feeling like starting from 0
mmo's just aren't for you & riot's likely won't be either. mmo's are inherently grindy games that require time investment.
@@sonnyankau9239 which is completely fine, i personally don't mind grinding for a game but its the grind that most MMOs have that frustrates me. when it comes down to it almost every single MMO's combat is just "do rotation, if AOE is bad then move and if AOE is good then stand still" which is incredibly boring. FF14 was a mild exception with the fact that a few classes have a somewhat interesting rotation and there are some mechanics which don't make it as stale or dull, but FF14's issue is the MSQ being as long as it is.
riot knows how to keep people engaged and hooked on games and i have faith they'll be able to finally make an MMO with gameplay that doesn't make me feel like my brain is rotting
@@thecabbageman5948 yes, mmo's aren't for you. that's fine. if riot knew how to keep people engaged lor wouldn't be on its death bed.
Just play wow hommie we dont need copys of games. I think what riot is doing is a good idea. @@sonnyankau9239
When it comes to MMOs I am EXTREMELY patient, as long as it's not canceled i'll be fine. It's just a shame Riot Forge is no more, because I really liked all of their games.
you kinda need to be, since last solid mmo that came out was GW2. xD
@@magicka789 new world is pretty good nowadays
I’m confused why they even made this announcement to begin with. We already knew next to nothing about the game so why create all this doom and gloom in the community? I had already assumed the game wouldn’t come out for 10 years at least. All this announcement does is make them look bad and lose the faith of their players.
Crafting system (gear, consumables etc.) might be a direction aswell ^^
I don't know about this Marc... I am legit scared now.
Oh boy, can't wait for the community to go crazy while waiting like for silksong
Skong📢
At 18:40 Necrit is absolutely right. I fully trust the devs and will wait for a good game made by them no matter how long it takes. Even Legends of Runeterra is a fantastic game, it just isn’t monetized well that’s why Riot still supports it.
I was curious if you were going to mention what Ghostcrawler said and what his things with this was.
GUILD WARS MENTIONED 🗣️‼️ 🗣️ WHAT THE FUCK IS A VERTICAL PROGRESSION RAHHHH 💥💥💥 I LOVE BEING ABLE TO RAID AFTER A 3 YEAR BREAK
11:00 Faburisu is executive producer not developper..
executive producers are the ppl forcing the ppl lower than them on the hierarchy to do bad work and the ones messing everything up for everyone..
it might be the Jack Daniels talking but you just killed me with the ""lethal dose of copium" lmao
Imagine if they saw your awesome videos about their game and felt like "It's never going to be this good. We need to redo it all over again!"
Necrit is just "Distilled Copium" personified.
wowcel
I believe that the beauty of the runeterra universe deserves nothing more then something absolutely extraordinary, i support this decisions STRONGLY, marketing riot mmo as runeterra wow would attract only the loyalist and nobody else, we can have more then that
Its another case like LoR,they had it midway in development but something came out(new mmo,helldivers or whatever) that made them re-evalute the game
I could wait forever if they just gave us some info along the way
i think its a good thing that the mmo really wants to try something different. the standard mmo is very flawed with grinding up until late game were you can finally have fun with raids, dungeons and getting loot.
the whole experience should be fun, arguably leveling and exploring the world SHOULD be the best part of it.
and again were thinking: dungeons, raids, levels, item levels, gear
imagine if they put a spin on it and actually not use any of those, instead focusing one creating your own abilities and find weapons that all use different playstyle instead of getting a knife that does 5 more dmg.
a new mmo should stand out, like REALLY stand out. with the way riot is talking i think they are trying exactly that
Have you played guild wars 2? If you haven't I think you might enjoy it because what you described is fairly applicable to GW2. Every weapon type has a different ability set and there's a huge focus on making the leveling process more enjoyable. Either way I'm excited to know it's not just going to be a traditional mmo because I could never get into WoW
Yes, but personally, I want a AAA MMO that locks you into your class, and has those kinds of role filling things. I'm tired of mmos trying to reinvent the wheel with "making your own abilities" or multiclassing, or "there aren't really any classes" bs. I want to have a job in a team, and I want the class that do those jobs locked in on it.
Grinding should be for effects on weapons, not just stats, and unlocking your skill tree, yes, but not this open ended stuff that has literally never seen much success
@@dosears1229 even by looking at league you will notice that you have different roles in the lane you choose. A top laner can go ap hypercarry or be incredibly tanky. A jungler can be an assassin or be able to chase you map wide. Roles are good, but different play styles in said roles are better imo
thats not the true, look at ff14, i would gladly take just ff14 in runeterra
One thing I learned as a student in this industry is that experience is everything.
Nomatter if the games you made flopped or turned out a success, you will learn out of that project and do better the next time.
Thats why im not concerned with Faburisu. He has experience and I'm sure the team will pull off an amazimg game.
I know im ingesting pure copium here but I really believe in them.
Riot has yet to make a low quality game tbh, their track record is very clean
Pass the blunt brother, id like to try that shit
@@anejtomazic5423 *Rolls a new one* Take the whole thing bro
@@anejtomazic5423 * rolls a new one *
Here, take the whole thing
People need to remember that experience with bad games is still experience. Even if Faburisu did work on those less than amazing games, that just means that he knows what can go wrong during development and can navigate those issues better.
I like their transparency though.
One thing I've been really wanting from an MMO is a deep character/class customisation system. I remember playing Rift and loving it multi class system there, I've been wanting something like that ever since Rift pretty much died, but no MMO has been very satisfying for me. I'm the kind of person who enjoys experimenting with builds and creating weird/janky/gimmicky builds.
Go play wow
@@pryncebusta9875 I hate Blizzard, no thanks and WoW's class system is by far inferior to what Rift had.
It used to be that you could put points into 3 different talent trees and build your class differently to other people, they removed that so I quit.
i was talking with a friend about this. i feel like if they made the league MMO to be more centric on learning the lore and quests, i'd love that. maybe make combat feel similar to league combat, but let you add abilities to QWERASDF. make the abilities fully customizable/piecemeal. certain races in certain areas can do quests to get ability components. so things like projectile, AOE, then element damage like electric, rock, fire, and shielding, healing components. if they can balance it well enough, the PVP scene may actually be really good, since no two people would have the exact same setup of skills, making its unpredictable.
They are just trying to find a way to put Vanguard as a core component of the MMO
vanguard is useless in an mmorpg lmao everything is already sanitized since game runs on the server and tab targeting helps a TON with input delay this isn't a shooter the genre of a game is what makes the anti-cheat
"Shooter" games and League plus any other "live service game" are games that run almost entirely on the server hence why "live service", plus this was a joke
@@WarrR0ck I really hope it's not tab targeting. We've moved past this already in the mmo sphere, please do NOT bring it back
@@Heigou_ manually aiming abilities that do 5 damage is so fucking tedious ur gonna get arthritis lol tab targeting isn't bad its the best you can have a variety of abilities while also being able to focus on what abilities you use Instead of focusing on the aim here shoot there gameplay which is a lot more boring and tedious than having variety all the time. but hey maybe you personally favor bandit beaters which is personally any game that isn't tab targeting because ur gonna be focusing a lot more on aiming and not so much on combo'ing
@@WarrR0ck I'm a huge fan of the guild wars 2 combat system. It's not tab targeting but it's also not necessarily like a shooter. You face the direction of your enemy, no abilities lock on allowing the players to dodge roll attacks coming their way. That is a good pvp system that worked incredibly well especially during pvp matches. Tab targeting is outdated and so boring to play with. I cannot go back to tab targeting mmo's, it will completely kill this game if that happens to be the direction we go in. There's a reason that style of gameplay is only around d still because of things like wow and unlike how apparently everyone else feels, I do not want a wow clone. Let it die and move on. Let your warped nostalgia die.
I totally expected a Pantheon flying over the Immortal Bastion from the fan project at some point.
just to pitch a point, some of the biggest games ever had a similar reality when being created, the original devs of diablo didn't intend or have any want to put mouse click combat and was going for something entirely different. Only after the diablo developers got a feel for what the game could be with that direction did it turn into a hack and slash clicker, I don't think them announcing they had to scrap and restart some or all of the project is a bad take on it going forward.
RuneScape, Maplestory, Wow, FF14, Put the Rito paint on any of these MMOS ill be happy lmao
What is problematic for me in "we don't believe you all want an MMO that you've played before" is that A LOT of people tried to improve the genra of what an MMORPG is, and failed.
Every time a company tried to make a new take on how an MMO should work, it ended up being worse than what theme park MMOs had to offer (ff14, WoW...)
Well, I AM hopeful that we will get an awsome new take on the MMO genra, just a bit sad that the chances of it being something I don't wish to play increased drasticly because of this decision.
I wouldn't have played a theme park again so this is only good news for me. I have played theme parks and they all end up as wasted time. I would not have been any less happy playing other games instead. The best parts of an MMO do not even come from the theme park design. It comes from the people playing it.
@@Merilirem I do not fully agree with this. the sentence could be replaced by "the best parts about playing *any type of game* do not even come from *their gameplay* . It comes from the people playing it.
playing poker with friends will always be more fun than playing alone on league. because the fun comes from interacting with your friends or friends-to-be first and foremost.
Now I wish I am a yordle...
So I can play it whenever it release even if it's 100 years later...
12:12 Bioware magic is not something like that, its more of a games finding there footing in the late development phases
I think the "sad news" part is only because their "going dark for several years", at least for me, but everything else in the post, I believe to be the correct choice. First of all, always remember when ghostcrawler said in an interview that money is not a problem for Riot, and that they would only cancel the game if they think it doesn't live up to their standards, not because of how much money have been poured into the project, because quite frankly, they have endless amounts of money, any other company would've already pulled the plug by now. And lastly, I believe that WHATEVER they decide to do with the game, whatever the direction may be, it is already set for success, why? Because it's the League IP we're talking about, an IP that boast a MASSIVE fanbase, an IP that's, arguably, top 3 overall biggest IPs in all of gaming, they can take the game any direction they want, it's not gonna matter, it's gonna be a wild success regardless. That said, I do believe that the decision of trying to evolve the genre with the game is the correct one, because if they made just another MMO but set in Runeterra, yes it would have been really successful, but again, it would've been just another MMO at the end of the day, and people would've realized it too after a bit. Like, why has NO OTHER MMO managed to dethrone WoW up until now? Because devs keep releasing "just another MMO", whereas WoW was an innovator in the genre, was a trailblazer, and that's what the next big thing in the genre MUST do in order to take the crown, and the only game that can achieve it, is the Riot MMO
There have been games with enough of a unique system that they could beat WoW, but they had slight defects in their design. Warhammer Online, for example, had a much more entertaining end game than WoW, but because they only had two factions, there wasn't enough in the endgame to stop one side from crushing the other side in RvR, and RvR was too important to the end game that the losing side just kept losing more. If there were 3 factions, the other two could have shut down the other one.
3:23 Runeterra fans want that, but not outsider MMO fans (who are the majority).
Appreciate that they pulled back. From what it sounds they ended up with something very traditional (WoW and FFXIV) which is already on its way out with their core gameplay by today's standards. XIV ends up functioning more like a second-life than a game now and WoW is sustained by fumes from 2004.
Appreciate how they'll try to balance out the super approachable system, but mind numbing, button bloating tab targeting, and the much higher barrier of entry of modern action combat you see in korean mmos/newer releases. Then progression systems and etc.
I REALLY hope they don't cancel this idea. I would love to play this.
16:28 You had to say you signed the NDA!!! hahaha
I knew it 😂
With the company lack of loyalty to its employees no wonder the Devs leave
no dev left here , or at least no one said anything about a dev leaving
"You justo wasted tour times watching this video" LOL, this is the first time I watch one of your videos and loved youe person, keep it up 👍🏽
I think a strategy game sent in Runeterra might be fun too :)
Let's be honest. They said the MMO is canceled without actually saying it. I think it's time to move on and leave RIOT to their own shenanigans. In case I'm wrong, it will be a pleasant surprise instead of an agonizing wait.
You shouldn't need to decide something is cancelled to alleviate that feeling. Things being worked on shouldn't be waited for. You should simply do other things until they arrive.
agreed. to me at this point even if it ever comes out it sounds like ill be too old and/or it will be something im not interested in.
"So overall what did we learn today? We learnt that nothing in our lives will change. And you just wasted your time watching this video."
Excellent
I already expected it to take many years. It's not like we are gonna be starved without good games until it comes out. I see this as good news and I hope they take the time they need to make the game as high quality as possible.
With this changes in production i see this as duke nukem 4...
Riot is not going to make anything that will feel like a "sigificant evolution of the genre".
There really isn't much you can do with MMOs at this point. People do needs to understand that ALL MMOs comes down to going around and killing stuff one way or another. Its just a matter of fun it is.
Its weird that people haven't learned to keep their expectations in the realm of reality. People should ask for a quality MMO experience with a quality combat, instead of expecting something that is going to "reinvent the wheel". This is especially true because Riot is at its best when they spin an established thing to their liking. Riot's identity was never about uniqueness.
FFXIV would've been a much better game if it had a better combat.
WoW or BnS would've been a much better game if it had better social features and content accompanied with it.
BDO would've been a much better game if it had better group content.
They should look to fill what the big MMOs are missing instead of going after the "unique". The "unique" is a major reason why we're constantly getting trash AAA games.
So, true thats why I was hoping theyd go for the take a formula that works and make it riot, looking at valorant, 2XKO etc.
exactly, a "complete experience" if you will.
ur not wrong, riot does specialize a lot in taking established games and releasing a version that draws out the best in said games. however i also think thats also a large reason that riot wants to make this mmo truly "their own". people with actual eyes will know that riot just made as @negentropyagent7337 says "a complete experience". but people without eyes which seems to be quite a large number of degen dota wow cs and overwatch fans say: "Riot is just hard copying our popular games i have no idea why they are so popular how can they be better than our original games". and quite honestly i think that the degen opinion is being heard way more than the sensible one making riot right now having that label of being a copycat
What do you guys expect…they fired like half if not more of the people who made a huge impact …so tbh this don’t surprise me and I don’t see why people even take riot seriously or look forward to anything they do anymore..league isn’t even worth it anymore
i mean riot literally said one of the reasons they made a huge layoff and discontinued some live games that are not profitable or cant be sustain anymore was to kinda double down and focus their resources on future projects like project l, arcane and this MMO
the layoffs are part of the mass hirings during the pandemic, it has nothing to do with the MMO also, most of the people that worked on MMO still are. This is more of a just "wait longer" and "expect no news" update, i think they felt like they need to do this kind of announcement to keep the expectation of a release date still low.
@@alexandrul.9910 yea that too. to add to that, a lot of tech companies after pandemic did a huge layoff before riot did and those companies did damage to the employees even worse than riot. it's just that riot was able to endure being over-employed for few years more than it should. so the layoff has nothing to do with the MMO negatively.
I think it has something to do with how riot do their games, not being "original" but it has its own flavor. like it's in between of trying not to reinvent the wheel and at the same time offering few mordern-day approach which is really challenging if they want to appeal to the masses given the state of MMO's today
I just want to go on an adventure again.
I'm with you on the classic MMO thing, i personally don't want nothing too crazy , just a lot of contents , lot of stuff to farm and gears to upgrade in runetera , i'm kind of scare that they going to try too hard and make it weird but at the same times i fully trust them , all the riot forge games have been a blast , arcane and all the music they produced have been amazing so who know perhaps this is going to be insanely good and become the future of MMO ... Fingers cross 🤞🤞🤞
I still appreciate the copium videos.
I would play the crap out of something WoW-like set in Runeterra.
Guild wars being mentioned made me so happy, but it did make me realize necrit hasn't mentioned Runescape yet? (I could be wrong) but wasn't that huge back in the early 2000s? Or was it not an mmo >.> just made me wonder why
I'm really wondering if Ghostcrawler was "allowed" to announce the MMO back then. If not, that must've really screwed up Riot's marketting plans.
We LITERALLY do want a WoW reskin but with runeterra world. Can't believe tryndamere said that. Now ill have nightmares for next 10 years until i see what the fuck they are doing. Some closed world 'mmo' bullshit in isometric. lmao, fuck this
if it was anything like wow it would be awful. it needed to be more like FF14.
never heard of him@@saphcal
@@saphcalthey’re the same game
@@milkman2266 no theyre not lol
Take Garen, put him in third person view, let him be able to walk from shurima to piltover. thats all we want. Beefy guys with big swords, mounts, magical creatures to slaughter, tab targeting to turn our brains off IF you want to be fancy change our characters skins and make them sandy/dusty when we walk through deserts. thanks for coming to my ted talk.
man, just play wow
@@suemebanhmena, fuck blizzard. also i wanna see the wonders of runeterra not azeroth, been there, done that. for many years.
@@Wadenbeisser24 how was it
@@suemebanhmewow? it used to be fun, i came from korea grinder MMOs, unfortunately all the fun parts were removed from addon to addon they released and i got fed up.
@@Wadenbeisser24 i'm gonna be honest i started playing midst bfa and it was so hard to dive into the game cos theres just too much stuff , its overstimulating
It's hard to think about a game taking that long to come out after being hyped for it for a good bit. I'm looking forward to having an MMO set in the LoL universe.
At least we'll have the new upcoming EverQuest to tide us over until this hopefully releases.