Josh Powell murder weapon discovered?

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  • A new experiment from KSL's COLD podcast team points to a particular power tool as a possible murder weapon in the December 6, 2009 death of Susan Powell. COLD host Dave Cawley breaks down the evidence suggesting Josh Powell might have destroyed a Ridgid impact driver with an oxyacetylene torch the night after his wife disappeared.

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  • @maddievictoria4947
    @maddievictoria4947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +631

    I can't believe they allowed him to see his children after one of the kids told the police he left mommy outside somewhere.. Like come on.

    • @sherryrunslate9678
      @sherryrunslate9678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Exactly! Having been a teacher for 22+ years for “at risk” students #1Rule is to trust your initial gut instinct. #2 ALWAYS report and follow up with students actions, lack of actions, and verbal conversations, physical appearance, eye blocking your own eyes, etc. Highly sounds like all supervision visits need to take place in an area created inside the LE headquarters (bowling, small skating rink, karate lessons, etc per age activities to ensure the conduct of children and social workers.

    • @keithcitizen4855
      @keithcitizen4855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Not quite that simple, red tape involved.

    • @heidiho5179
      @heidiho5179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sherryrunslate9678 I know... it’s so sad!

    • @amystarstimulusandcrypto4303
      @amystarstimulusandcrypto4303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He only lost custody a few days before he burned the house down.

    • @JulieJLofficial
      @JulieJLofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please check my comment !

  • @erintade
    @erintade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Aside from being just a horrible human being in general, Josh Powell was such an insufferable doofus.

    • @maneckineckbeard1749
      @maneckineckbeard1749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Perfectly said!

    • @sherryrunslate9678
      @sherryrunslate9678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      A despicable waste of human flesh.

    • @maneckineckbeard1749
      @maneckineckbeard1749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sherryrunslate9678 Amen to that! Well said!

    • @maneckineckbeard1749
      @maneckineckbeard1749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@RobinBoBobbin Me neither. She did seem to be a genuinely lovely, kind, funny and intelligent person.
      But then I remember how I got engaged at age 19...and I've spent the rest of my life thanking my lucky stars that the actual wedding never happened. And then I remember that Susan was still a teenager when she got married. And, for me at least, that makes it a *little* easier to understand.

    • @elizabethfizer3562
      @elizabethfizer3562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes! He was a lazy, uncaring husband. Spent money only on shit for himself etc. Can't stand his face 🤬🤬

  • @nuckinfuts7610
    @nuckinfuts7610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    The level of research, investigation, and dedication Mr Cawley has invested into Susan's case is nothing short of remarkable.

    • @jackyblue67same10
      @jackyblue67same10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who is Mr. Cawley ?

    • @codyandrus4911
      @codyandrus4911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jackyblue67same10 the host of cold and the guy in the video

    • @dlcchannel8881
      @dlcchannel8881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not sure if you watch the 3episode series about the mine shaft that a TH-cam channel dig last month but that is how I found out about this case and maybe they found her remains. I advise you to take a look at it

  • @pathemeleski
    @pathemeleski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    The cops tracking showed that Josh visited all those dumpsters. But the cops never searched any of the dumpster to see what he might have done there. That boggles the imagination. Why not?

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Because they were incompetent. They needed to bring the FBI in immediately

    • @IratePuffin
      @IratePuffin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      pinkpugginz they can’t just bring the FBI into a state murder case. It doesn’t work that way.

    • @TheAdventuresofDrewandAmanda
      @TheAdventuresofDrewandAmanda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It was actually the DA That dropped the ball here. They had enough evidence to arrest Josh but they did not. I iMagine the cops thought their hands were tied.why amass low level evidence When the prosecution will only accept a body or a confession?

    • @dalewalker4614
      @dalewalker4614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheAdventuresofDrewandAmanda That DA is a very controversial person. Doesn't like to lose a case

    • @mischievous1765
      @mischievous1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheAdventuresofDrewandAmanda unfortunately the DA drops the ball quite a lot in the state of Utah. And the LA in the smaller community is definitely lacking as well.

  • @elizabethprost636
    @elizabethprost636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Dude! Your investigative skills are insane! Amazing job!

  • @joanlantis4497
    @joanlantis4497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    sooooo much evidence in this case.not arresting him was a huge blunder.

    • @helenbalabanoff1409
      @helenbalabanoff1409 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree … absolutely shocking and so so sad that Susan and the children were murdered 😢

  • @JMD621
    @JMD621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Cold is the Best crime podcast of all.

    • @Reubachi
      @Reubachi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Serial.

  • @joshuaeaton6478
    @joshuaeaton6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Good grief, you are smarter than the detectives on this case

  • @BodhiSatfa-co2zz
    @BodhiSatfa-co2zz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Really brilliant investigative work and proper presentation. You have set a grand standard of how true crime should be covered. Cheers mate🍻🍻

  • @geordiezinn7475
    @geordiezinn7475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Fantastic podcast! You have bright future young man.

    • @marys3127
      @marys3127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The next Keith Morrrison, but even better. He should have his own true crime show.

    • @geordiezinn7475
      @geordiezinn7475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mary S Absolutely!

    • @heidiho5179
      @heidiho5179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truly amazing! I am so important.

    • @JulieJLofficial
      @JulieJLofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please check my comment

    • @normacunningham8913
      @normacunningham8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JulieJLofficial , Why do you keep commenting the same thing, over & over?

  • @19Marleymum
    @19Marleymum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I have listened to your Podcast THREE times as I glean new information every time. I sincerely believe this is truly one of the best Podcasts (and I listen and subscribe to over 40) available to us.
    I would love to know if you are going to release a new Podcast any time soon?

    • @joeakaprolifik7735
      @joeakaprolifik7735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Me to hun!!I really hope they do release a new podcast !!they did an excellent job!!I hope and 🙏Susan Is found one day and laid with her sons 😭💔🙏🤞💖🇬🇧

    • @19Marleymum
      @19Marleymum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@joeakaprolifik7735 he did a phenomenal job, didn’t he? Yes, I do want to hear another Podcast by him while simultaneously hoping Susan will one day be found❤️

    • @joeakaprolifik7735
      @joeakaprolifik7735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@19Marleymum yeah he really did,Stephanie Harlow recommended and I knew it would be good but wow 🤩,I really hope one day Susan is found,it’s the one case and caylee Anthony that really got me,💔💖🇬🇧

    • @XX-pl3tm
      @XX-pl3tm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He is currently working on a new podcast from what he said on his colleague's podcast. I'm assuming it's about a case still under investigation.

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here

  • @TheKourtneyDee
    @TheKourtneyDee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am always looking forward to you posting videos. Thank you so much for keeping Susans story alive.

  • @Momma-angela
    @Momma-angela 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Keep working on this case.....PLEASE, you will be the one to help investigators solve it. You’ve done a thoroughly awesome job so far.

  • @sandeesimons6045
    @sandeesimons6045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice work! I just found you today and impressed with the amount of research and details. You present a case that is logical and doesn't rely solely on emotion nor " hearsay". Well done!😊

  • @grannyvroomvroom2523
    @grannyvroomvroom2523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    From listening to other interviews it seems there was a time lapse which would allow Josh to dispose of evidence, as well as an unsecured potential crime scene, which even Josh's sister said was cleaned up before any forensic team investigated. This reminds me of the Watts case where police allowed other people to enter into a crime scene and contaminate evidence.

    • @CrystalSmith-uk6hd
      @CrystalSmith-uk6hd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not initially a crime scene though.

    • @dawnofdestruction7381
      @dawnofdestruction7381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CrystalSmith-uk6hd exactly it's not a crime scene upon first responding. However in this case after Maxwell had already seen the fans blowing on a wet carpet and sofa, knew her purse was left behind, she wasn't answering calls and got such evasive answers the first time he spoke to Josh, he should have at least attempted to get an emergency warrant to secure the house BEFORE Josh was allowed to clean up and destroy evidence...I can totally understand why Maxwell had such difficulty getting hired on, he's totally inept

  • @sarahhunter1114
    @sarahhunter1114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I don’t want to make accusations because I know investigators are doing their best, but not cataloging and testing the contents of the bag is a pretty big deal. That along with not securing the house right away seem to be pretty big oversights based on other investigations I’ve followed.

    • @geordiezinn7475
      @geordiezinn7475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ellis the detective was completely incompetent. I have no doubt at all that if Josh had been interrogated by a more aggressive confrontational Detective he would have broke during the first interview when faced with the BS he was spouting that Ellis let slide. IMHO Ellis shares some blame for the murder of those kids.

  • @misspeaches2217
    @misspeaches2217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the only video I have seen (so far). Good work; I'm subbing. Looking forward to other stories and your conclusions.

  • @caseycat
    @caseycat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Dave, thank you so much for all your work on this. It's exceptional.

  • @DeathWhisper07
    @DeathWhisper07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love the Cold podcast. Amazing narrator, outstanding research, and it’s well delivered and easy to follow. Keep up the great work.

  • @opinionatedoma9579
    @opinionatedoma9579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would just like to say that I have never been so captured by any podcast ever as much as I have been by the Cold Podcast. I very much hope to be able to speak with you in the near future. Very good job.

    • @pampugliese705
      @pampugliese705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯 agree. The detail is amazing. It’s just incredible. I’ve listened 2x, and recommend it to anyone asking about true crime podcasts.

  • @momjeansandcrimescenes5518
    @momjeansandcrimescenes5518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The work you are doing is amazing. I hope you continue to do this kind of thing with other cold cases too.

  • @D00dman
    @D00dman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yooooo! Glad to see you are still on this!!!

    • @Glorindellen
      @Glorindellen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was exchanging messages with Dave after the Sherry Black murder broke. He made mention that it wasn't his story because he was working on a second season of Cold, though in the end, he couldn't resist being drawn into a few early stories on the case, because I fed him a lot of background information on the adoptive family of Adam Durborow, his father's family lived 2 blocks west of me (and the Blacks lived a block north of me).

  • @tinagillispie2471
    @tinagillispie2471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    May not have caused blood at all.. just a fatal blow. I thought he may have burned her body with that torch. He was not a mastermind but he sure outsmarted the authorities. Just such a tragic ending.

    • @heidiho5179
      @heidiho5179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Georgia Amanatides People still love O.J. Doesn’t he have a reality show?

    • @GlennaVan
      @GlennaVan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heidiho5179 O.J. walked with a "Not Guilty" from the criminal trial but he was found accountable in the civil trial, so in that respect, he didn't get away with it. If those on the jury understood the characteristics of leather, he may not have walked, Of course the stupid glove didn't fit after laying around so long. Fitted leather gloves, once they have gotten wet, shrink! That happens even with natural air moisture over time. His attorneys know that - it's too bad prosecution didn't hit on that.
      We can all still hope that Susan's body is found - her family deserves at least that, being able to put her to rest.

  • @SongWhisperer
    @SongWhisperer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Some youtubers (Heavy D Sparks) just dug up an old mine looking for Susan’s body, the mine looked like it was purposely collapsed and set on fire so they cleaned it out and removed all the dirt all the way to the bottom.
    They don’t know anything conclusive yet but the videos are very interesting and entertaining (check them out).

    • @armandosoria7993
      @armandosoria7993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Juat watched that lol it was cool

    • @Jennifer-hz8vb
      @Jennifer-hz8vb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I seen that too. Last I seen her was waiting for DNA to come back.

  • @samanthamarkle6923
    @samanthamarkle6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Braden at one point pointed to a picture of a woman, put his finger on the figure's chest and said "Mommy has an owie."

    • @marys3127
      @marys3127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Poor little cutie pies, gosh they were gorgeous kids....and so sweet. 😞

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes....

    • @anewtattoobynancy1
      @anewtattoobynancy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omg!! Did he go for her heart?? I don’t know much about this case. Horrible so far. 🤯😢🙏💔

    • @samanthamarkle6923
      @samanthamarkle6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@anewtattoobynancy1 We don't know...Susan disappeared under mysterious circumstances and Josh killed their two sons and himself when suspicion fell on him. His brother who may have helped hide Susan's body committed suicide and their father (who was obsessed with Susan in a sick and twisted way) died of heart failure and refused to say what he knew.

    • @chaianddogs3509
      @chaianddogs3509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samanthamarkle6923 What about the sister? is she still around? the sister of Josh I speak of ?? It's been a ;little while since ive watched/read anything on Susan & the kids case, but SURLY there is someone alive right now who holds a very dark secret... maybe just ONE person knows, & I suspect that sister.. :/ I hope one day they find Susan :(

  • @psidogs
    @psidogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You have the BEST Podcast online!! Thank you for your dedication.

  • @lisawilson105
    @lisawilson105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was the best podcast of all time.
    Well done.
    Way to go!
    And thank you

  • @itswinnie9265
    @itswinnie9265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    New subscriber. Very informative and like how you put this together. We lived not far from the home Josh set fire to with his two sons inside. Could see the smoke fill the sky. So sad😥

  • @stephanie6897
    @stephanie6897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    this is one of the weirdest, worst cases ever ! poor susan must have have felt SO creeped out around him and his dad. josh's demeanor is seriously the weirdest........ she must have been so put off by his dad always up in her business and his creepy weirdo son. poor girl could have done so much better than him. x

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely!

    • @magical8013
      @magical8013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that family is SOO (excuse my language) FUCKED UP.

  • @amandastephens287
    @amandastephens287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dave!! You're a hero for bringing more people to awareness of this tragic and mysterious case. I would love if you could cover the Zachary Tuner/Andrew Bagby case. There is a huge rabbit hole to fall down, even though it was solved. Thank you for all you do!

  • @msstellafay1320
    @msstellafay1320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    YES! Susan was likely killed at home; the children would have been sleepy. She was gone before the, "Camping trip."

    • @heidiho5179
      @heidiho5179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      One child actually told a teacher (I can’t remember if he also said it in a police interview) that Mommy rode, in the trunk, to camping. When police asked about where they went during camping, The child said in “the place where the crystals grow,” and it was noted they typically form in caves out there. When they asked what was mommy doing in the place with the crystals, the child said she just wanted to sleep there. I am not adding any interpretation to what I saw and documentaries and read in the book about this case. I seem to recall there was some discussion of mommy being left to sleep in the “ please where the crystals grow” and also setting up camp elsewhere, but I’m not going to expound on that since I can’t remember. Just saying, your idea is on point. Maybe you’ve read all this, too, but it certainly came to mind after reading your post

    • @msstellafay1320
      @msstellafay1320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heidiho5179 Thank You. Yes, i frequently was in Idaho then, spending most time in Idaho County, at Cottonwood, and Nez Perce. The story was very upsetting; people there aren't bullshitters, so they didn't believe Josh's story at all....camping at 02:00? With little children he goes out to the snow, and wild. Personally, i believe that Steve Powell, killed, Susan. Steve died of cancer in prison, a convicted pedophile. He was obsessed with Susan until he died; he was recording songs that he had written for Susan, i first heard the songs when, Dori Monson, of KIRO radio, Seattle, played excerpts on his show. Steve was a sexual psychopath, i believe that Josh was a child abuse survivor.
      Why didn't they arrest Josh? He would have cracked, and talked. Then Dad would have been in trouble. Stockholm Syndrome.

  • @Glorindellen
    @Glorindellen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    wow, Dave! good job!

    • @marys3127
      @marys3127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, he paid a great deal of attention to the evidence photos in the house and garage! Great eyes...

  • @foresttales506
    @foresttales506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I like your theory, and thanks for another video! I have always thought that Susan had to be quite sedated for Josh to be able to kill her using any method. I wonder why he didn’t use suffocation or strangulation to avoid blood evidence? How do the microscopic blood spray droplets fit into the theory? How much blood loss would one expect if Josh used a tool like that? God rest her sweet soul, and the boys’ too. 🙏🏻

    • @Glorindellen
      @Glorindellen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      my theory was she was drugged, tried to get up but fell due to being drugged, possibly while Josh was trying to get her to move to the van with assistance from him or possibly because the drugs caused her to become nauseous and she tried to get to the bathroom (did she vomit some on the couch, which is why he cleaned it?) Then after she was in the van, perhaps he placed a bag over her head to suffocate her. The power tools were used at a remote location to help conceal the body, then Josh destroyed something that might have forensic evidence on it but not necessarily DNA. I read a comment on a video where someone was camping near the quarry where Josh stopped on his trip to or from Wendover why being surveilled from a plane on loan from the DEA and they smelled a foul smell at a large water tank nearby. What if he used the impact drill to drill out a lock on the tank, then place the body inside? Perhaps I'm wrong on that point, but I don't think he would have killed her in the house. He was into true crime and would most likely have known that cleaning up blood evidence only spreads it around more, though undetectable to the naked eye, efforts to clean it up will be very obvious on a luminol examination. Perhaps he used to impact drill to finish her off at where ever he dumped her, because forensics wouldn't be an issue there. Unless her body is ever found, we'll never know...

    • @foresttales506
      @foresttales506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Glorindellen Thanks for your thoughtful response. I’ve been conflicted about whether or not he killed her at home. The tiny blood spray droplets and the small smears of blood on the couch are highly suspicious to me. I mean, how did the spray pattern happen? But transporting a bloody body could be incredibly messy, and it makes more sense to do anything messy outside of the house. Considering the barren earth and snow, it may be hard to cover up a gruesome crime scene outdoors, unless well planned. Of course Josh was planning this for many months. I wish so badly that the police would have pursued a search warrant and seized the house, van, and his clothing the first night so Josh could not continue the cleanup. I hope so badly that she is found someday.

    • @Glorindellen
      @Glorindellen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@foresttales506 Considering there was a blizzard going on, any visual evidence would have been covered quickly by the heavy snow, both falling and being blown about. But let's say that he put down a tarp first, placed her on it, finished her off, then wrapped her up inside the tarp, using the tree wrap to keep it tightly contained. so that evidence wouldn't be shed while disposing of the body and make it easier to retrieve the body later, should he decide it was necessary to move it. Remember Michael scrapped his car in Pendleton when it could have been repaired or sold for far greater than the price given for scrap and the dogs went instantly to the car when police went to retrieve the car after learning Michael was trying to determine if it had been crushed.

    • @foresttales506
      @foresttales506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glorindellen Yes, her body must have been wrapped very well to be able to move it later and not leave Susan’s DNA behind in Michael’s car. Charlie said that Susan went camping with them, and then stayed where the pretty crystals are. Considering all the camping gear/junk that he had in the back of the van, I’m not sure her body would have fit in the back. These details make me think she was in the front seat, though heavily sedated. Susan would not have left voluntarily on a Sunday night knowing she had to work the next day. I’m guessing that the children would have slept through much of the trip, at least until daybreak. Charlie, being a very bright child, would have likely remembered if he witnessed anything that was frightening or traumatic, IMO.

    • @Glorindellen
      @Glorindellen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@foresttales506 I think that Susan was feeling the early effects of the drugs, was woozy and nauseous and Josh told her was taking her to the emergency room, so she would cooperate with trying to get to the van. And you're right, with the generator, toboggans, and other gear, there can't have been much room for a body in the back.

  • @kathydamron9168
    @kathydamron9168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    SO WHY DON'T THE POLICE GO TO THE HOUSE AND PULL UP THE CARPET

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They did they found her blood

    • @kimdeweese423
      @kimdeweese423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pinkpugginz where is this information?! I don’t recall seeing it...

    • @magical8013
      @magical8013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kimdeweese423 they found a small amount in the living room. I can't imagine blunt force trauma to the head without leaving a massive amount of blood.

    • @thejudge8691
      @thejudge8691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@magical8013 blunt force doesn't necessarily break skin and cause massive bleeding she could have had internal bleeding and coughed a very small amount up onto the carpet

    • @magical8013
      @magical8013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thejudge8691 If its directed to the head it would leave a lot of blood, but your right if she was hit in the stomach she could have died from internal bleeding without leaving much blood. He did something in that living room. I'm just not sure what it is.

  • @OurBob775
    @OurBob775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have my own theory: Josh never cooks, and he certainly never washes dishes. So for him to make pancakes and than susan get sick or tired afterwards, couldnt he have poisoned her or had that intention?

  • @coralmonty2330
    @coralmonty2330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bummed out she wasnt at the bottom of the mine, but there was bones found and sent to testing.

  • @ranchdubois6255
    @ranchdubois6255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was great. I just ran into your page and I’m ready to binge! 😎

  • @BRP
    @BRP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TH-cam detectives never cease to amaze me YOU DUDES REALLY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THINGS 😅😂 Good Work 👍🏾

  • @livingitup9647
    @livingitup9647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Congratulations on your amazing investigative work! I'm so impressed by all the experiments you engaged in, in the pursuit of answers in this case. Makes me wonder, yet again, why law enforcement was-- and appears to continue to be-- so deficient in their own pursuit of answers and prosecution of Josh [and in two different states]. It is one of the saddest cases of domestic violence and family pathologies that I've witnessed. Perhaps it's because it's had so much coverage, and so much visual material now out in the public space. Such a shame that these crimes are not as rare as they ought to be. The only good news from this case is that Susan Cox's family won their civil suit against Washington State for negligence in allowing Josh Powell visitation with the kids in his own home. To Dave Cawley: I hope you've found good ways to cleanse all this negativity from your energy field, and that you regularly use methods to restore your inner balance. It's a heavy shroud, this type of work. Bless you for taking on the task. Take good care!

    • @samwallaceofscotland
      @samwallaceofscotland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I like how you reverted to her unmarried name. He didn't deserve her.

  • @IratePuffin
    @IratePuffin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great call on the impact driver!! I’ve wondered for years what that melted blob was and it makes perfect sense.

  • @dpiroch
    @dpiroch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great update. Thank you.

  • @sarahj6190
    @sarahj6190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent work 🙌🏻

  • @kathleencarrington7368
    @kathleencarrington7368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your voice. I enjoyed the series that you did on this tragedy

  • @Jimmytimmy1111
    @Jimmytimmy1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I see in the photos that Joshes minivan had alot of soil/sand/sediment on it. I wonder if that was ever analyzed. I remember seeing a forensic files episode (or cold case files?) where detectives consulted with scientists who were able to analyze the soil and some small plant seeds etc on the perpetrators tire treads which led them to the approximate area of the murder victims burial site. Based on that episode ... some plants grow only in defined areas.. and sand and soil are often specific to certain terrain.

    • @Cynful033
      @Cynful033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt you'll get much from snow though.

  • @DrJanTaplin
    @DrJanTaplin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember seeing in one video where he had shared the best place to hide a body was in the desert in a mineshaft… So could he have done this on purpose to create a wild goose chase, Because he actually put her pieces of her remains in dumpsters. Growing up my mother shared horror stories of people taking drugs and how it affected them, perhaps parents could share these kinds of stories so when our children find themselves in these types of positions, they seek help rather than trying to hide what’s going on.

  • @kjones8784
    @kjones8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Best podcast I’ve listened too!

  • @clairey6407
    @clairey6407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing work!

  • @Jellyrolle2000
    @Jellyrolle2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just finding all these videos and this channel, absolutely amazing! Someone give this man a award

  • @Channel66678
    @Channel66678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video and explaination. I'm sure this is more work than the police probably have done, unfortunately. Thank you for your hard work and dedication, it's obviously HELPED beyond words.

  • @andrewsage1376
    @andrewsage1376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you from champaign Illinois. Very sad story.

  • @MrSouthofBoston
    @MrSouthofBoston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Had the victim been my daughter I would have extracted a confession from him. It would have been very painful and lasted a very long time. Then again I’m from South Boston, Southie. We handle these type of things in-house.

    • @JoseCamposSegovia
      @JoseCamposSegovia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes we get it. Bostonians are bad ass. I lived in south of Boston for 4 years for my remote work. Aggressive people for sure. Makes New Yorkers blush

  • @12oclocknewsat10
    @12oclocknewsat10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "having the pivot drill would have made the impact drill redundant".
    Me currently looking at my 5 impact drills sitting on my workbench

  • @alison4316
    @alison4316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Given 3 wishes, my first would be to know every ounce of truth about this case. It's one of those that sticks with you.

    • @freakshowfilmfestival3591
      @freakshowfilmfestival3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You wouldn't wish that she wasn't murdered? 🤨

    • @bennettsmith8588
      @bennettsmith8588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@freakshowfilmfestival3591 hahahahahaha

    • @freakshowfilmfestival3591
      @freakshowfilmfestival3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bennettsmith8588 🤷

    • @an.dr.16561
      @an.dr.16561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@freakshowfilmfestival3591 jaja so tru but I guess u can not wish dead people to become alive .. I would wish none could get murdered..nd to know the real killer of ebry murdered thus far.. if you have ever heart of the boy in the box..man its heqrtbreaking wish we could bring justicia to hin

    • @freakshowfilmfestival3591
      @freakshowfilmfestival3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@an.dr.16561 you can't bring people back from the dead (according to Disney Aladdin) but couldn't you wish it never happened? "I wish she was never murdered" that sorta thing? 🤷

  • @chasityyoung815
    @chasityyoung815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this is good work! I think you nailed it!!!

  • @memyselfandid
    @memyselfandid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wonder about possible blood traces in the tool bag if he did put the tool back in the bag

  • @lancelotkillz
    @lancelotkillz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent investigation and testing

  • @kingLuu816
    @kingLuu816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damm after 9 years this channel decided to solve a murder weapon. Nice going

  • @jameschavira565
    @jameschavira565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You and your Team are doing Good Work Thanks You

  • @lindaarrington9397
    @lindaarrington9397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saddest thing ever
    I'm so sorry for this families pain,the social worker and all that loved them

  • @agnailsupplies5318
    @agnailsupplies5318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know this is an old video but it would be nice to hear your opinion on what Dave Sparks and his team have found in the mine out in Utah.

  • @MichaelLee-dt1iw
    @MichaelLee-dt1iw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job. Keep up the good work! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @sexysergeant123
    @sexysergeant123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great insight, great podcast!

  • @giamontarano5852
    @giamontarano5852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved your podcast please do more on missing women please you told her story so well it was like reading a book now a days it is open season on women..I have listened to cold 3 times thank you

  • @hucker4life
    @hucker4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you see Dave sparks found a gun that looks like it’s burned the same way in a mine shaft?

  • @phi1215
    @phi1215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is one of the best and well thought theories I’ve heard regarding how he murdered her, good job.

  • @pookieb1612
    @pookieb1612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow jus found your podcast.

  • @tiatokkesdal1745
    @tiatokkesdal1745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap man. Great work!

  • @muttsfan2011
    @muttsfan2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good job

  • @CharlieB.-
    @CharlieB.- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant work!

  • @cadomosting3965
    @cadomosting3965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're extremely bright Dave, amazing job, you've done a great service, I hope it pays off.

  • @neelysipes7793
    @neelysipes7793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This guy and his dad were so creepy I will never understand!the younger sister has to know something!!wish someone could help find her😭

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sexual Abuse Victims become trauma bonded to their Abuser. Just like Patty Hearst who became bonded to her Abductors. It must have something to do with the level of emotions and the way pain damages your brain.

    • @neelysipes7793
      @neelysipes7793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree maybe she could be hypnotized during some much needed therapy 🤔 very very sad family dynamics

  • @SandyWolf-
    @SandyWolf- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this!

  • @psychedforlife7176
    @psychedforlife7176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Awesome work!!!

  • @sarahlilly4336
    @sarahlilly4336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for using your voice to speak for Susan and bring justice for the Cox family, hope she can be found and laid to rest soon.

  • @z50king29
    @z50king29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content. Incredible

  • @flynntaylor5459
    @flynntaylor5459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think he slipped a sedative into those pancakes he made. Jennifer said he never cooked. Now all of a sudden he is making lunch for jovannah and susan. And making each pancake seperate?? Very suspicious. Jovannah said he seemed to want her to leave too saying he needed to take the boys sledding.
    But there is something that bothers me about this theory.
    On the cold podcast there is a witness at a gas and sip in Utah that says She saw josn, Charlie and susan with Braden in her arms describing her perfectly. She said she looked like she was had been crying. That the man said they were going camping and the cashier looked outside with the snow ❄️ and thought this odd. Even complemented on how Braden didn't look happy to go camping to which susan said no he is sleepy.
    The man, very tall with a child about 3 paid for his purchases in cash and they all left in a van.
    This sounds very plausible but no one investigated and the security tape never was pulled for review. The cashier never called the police and all evidence they were there has vanished.
    If true, I believe Josh gassed the van and then went back to house maybe susan said she was too tired and needed to go to bed.
    I think they had to return to the house because her purse was on the nightstand she must have put it there, seems far to calculated for Josh to stage it to me so I believe she was killed in the house not brought out to a spot to be bludgeoned by the impact driver.
    I think she put her purse down on the nightstand, went into the livingroom to sit on the couch maybe concerned about the boys and wanted to talk to Josh about taking them out.
    He snuck up behind her and hit her with it.
    He then wrapped her in a blanket which was found at his storage shred after his death so we know he did. Her blood was found on it.
    Then makes up a story for the kids. Mommy's sleeping so we don't want to wake her etc.
    Put her in the trunk as Braden drew a year later in daycare.
    As for her body, he left in out in the snow then called Michael as we know from cell phone records to assist with disposal of her body.
    Josh then gets new phone 📱 rents a car after he leaves police station and disappeared for 18 hours and puts on some 800 miles on this car.
    That was the time it took to get rid of evidence.
    Do I believe he dropped her down a shaft?
    NO
    I'm more likely to believe he dropped her in water 💧 what water I do not know but I think he reasoned that flesh would dissolve or be eaten away more quickly by fish etc if she was dumped in a river, lake etc.
    Despite his lack of empathy his poor social skills and he lack of good parenting and his scatter brained thoughts he was brilliant in details about committing the perfect murder.
    Sick bastard.

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The witness was mistaken she didn't even report that until like a year later

  • @shelleynobleart
    @shelleynobleart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent deduction. Well done.

  • @yolandacolby
    @yolandacolby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good your investigation

  • @foresttales506
    @foresttales506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dave, would it be possible to someday get an update on Josh’s surviving family members? I read Jennifer Graves’ book after I finished your podcast, and wow! What a survivor! Considering the narcissistic abuse experienced by her family, she is the fortunate one. I am wondering if there has been reconciliation between herself, her baby sister, and mother. I know their journey has been very hard. God bless them with strength. 🙏🏻💜

    • @mischievous1765
      @mischievous1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only one that is still alive is his sister. The dad died of a heart attack I believe and his brother killed him self before josh did. But his sister believes that Josh killed her.

    • @foresttales506
      @foresttales506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mischievous Josh has 2 sisters, Jennifer being the eldest. Jennifer was a friend to Susan and worked closely with the police. The younger sister, Alina, lived with Steven and she supported Josh during the investigation. I believe his mother is still alive, and she stood by Josh and believed he was innocent. This caused a rift in her relationship with Jennifer. The only surviving brother, Jonathan, has a mental illness. The family dynamics are very interesting to me. I wish the best for each of them as they heal.

    • @mischievous1765
      @mischievous1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@foresttales506 ok thanks I was just giving the info i new of. But I do believe the three that had or new directly what happened to her are all now dead and hope they are all in hell.

    • @scottishlass3617
      @scottishlass3617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@foresttales506 Josh's mother fought to get Josh buried with the kids but she lost so she is just as mental in my opinion.

    • @thethrowawaythatstayed7055
      @thethrowawaythatstayed7055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottishlass3617 woooow I didn’t know that! How disgusting of her.

  • @aquastar4336
    @aquastar4336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda sucks that only you seem to have access to these home videos... Steve's songs... the diaries etc

  • @amandaloveless4369
    @amandaloveless4369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I grew up in Taylorsville and have since lived in west valley city since I was 12. I remember her disappearance and also remember vividly seeing the news the day Josh murdered his boys and then killed himself. Crazy to know how close they were. I obviously didn't know them or any other victims ... but my Mom had 2 friends who were murdered. One friend was Debra (Debbie) Kent who was one of Ted Bundy's victims (my mom gave me the middle name debra). And the other friend was Maurine Hunsaker who was kidnapped from the gas station she worked at and murdered by a man named Ralph Menzies in 1986, the same year I was born. He's still in prison now.

  • @DeformedConscience
    @DeformedConscience 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Back with a Vengeance!

  • @lousunny5682
    @lousunny5682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn that’s great work. You should try to get into this line of work professionally

  • @inesnaglic472
    @inesnaglic472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When you see him working and explains it to his son, you think - that is one good father. How all those family killers seems so loving and normal, till' you hear about tragedy. You can't really believe anyone 😞

    • @SpicyLady842
      @SpicyLady842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because we are normal, we can’t fathom how a killer’s mind works. It’s why I’m interested in true crime, but also why I’ll never understand. This case is so incredibly sad. I hope her body is found.

    • @nr1785
      @nr1785 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The family image is all a part of their
      ‘mask of sanity’. The more wholesome, and family like they seem, the less chance anyone will suspect them of the evil they commit behind the scenes. They need the image of respectability.

  • @robertmcbride494
    @robertmcbride494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heavy D sparks went to an abandoned mineshaft and they think they found Susans remaining

  • @skippygirl959
    @skippygirl959 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impact drivers and pivot drivers are two completely different tools with two different uses. It is not redundant to get an impact drill if you have a pivot drill.

  • @jakeweeks9135
    @jakeweeks9135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work

  • @TiffanyWeiland
    @TiffanyWeiland 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting theories!!!

  • @redfightblue
    @redfightblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a good theory. Has no one been able to say whether the hunk of metal could have been a power tool?

    • @marys3127
      @marys3127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He mentions that yes, it could have been....in the video.

    • @redfightblue
      @redfightblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marys3127 I phrased my comment poorly. I see he is claiming it is the power tool I guess I was just thinking the police/forensics should be able to confirm it.

    • @redfightblue
      @redfightblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MsYogaGrrrl Thanks

  • @XX-pl3tm
    @XX-pl3tm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does Ellis Maxwell have any thoughts on your findings about the impact driver?

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Considering the fact he said Michael wasn't involved, I'm not sure he has any thoughts in his head at all

    • @wyotea4085
      @wyotea4085 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pinkpugginz Nah Maxwell said he didn't think Michael killed her but that it was plausible that he helped hide the body.

  • @ChristopherSalisburySalz
    @ChristopherSalisburySalz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know Dave Cawley! Grew up with him! Good work Dave!

  • @kustomized4886
    @kustomized4886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He made a lot of mistakes, the biggest of which, I think, was underestimating how much Susan was loved. He treated her like dirt. He deprived her of her dignity. He had no love for her. His coldness made him unable to understand why his plan would never work. People would look for her RIGHT away because they loved her and they would never forget about her. This is why he never would have peace again. These people will always want her to be found.

    • @dianayount2122
      @dianayount2122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To Josh people were possessions, objects.

  • @jenniferwilliams5430
    @jenniferwilliams5430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look at the shape left on the fire board

  • @silencedogood7297
    @silencedogood7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting investigative report.

  • @blackrose118
    @blackrose118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You🖤🌹🥀

  • @3dsmaxrocks699
    @3dsmaxrocks699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how the powells never once give an alternative explanation like a robbery gone wrong etc.

  • @nate4036
    @nate4036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope my tool receipts are ever looked at. Being a contractor, I have rigid and DeWalt tools all over the place

  • @vanemaster4345
    @vanemaster4345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, this Kold Podkast is intense.

  • @wannaberacecardriver
    @wannaberacecardriver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If yall want to see some real investigating, people getting down and dirty
    HeavyDsparks and his team dug all the way down the mine that Josh may have tossed her body into.

  • @katia2051
    @katia2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't believe I found this video. More people should know.