New playthrough as a Dark Urge. Wait, why am I doing Gale romance AGAIN?? Every time I piss him off for funsies, I'll give him 5 kisses as an apology, lmao
@@emclevertonI think when meeting the druid one of the "correct" answers to "What does Gale feel is his biggest failing" is something like "Sometimes Gale feels that the world would be better if he did not exist in it". Poor guy
@@JB-xl2jc That bit made me so sad. He has several asides throughout the game that make it clear he's extremely depressed and at least passively suicidal. Forget the magical artifacts. My man needs Potion of Lexapro.
Gale is the kind of guy who'd go "Oh! Oh I see. Quite a merry jest there. You had me spun for quite the chuckle. Quite the chuckle indeed." *Then he nukes the sword coast*
To be fair, Gale is one of the few companions you can only "be intimate with" after developing the romance first. You can't just bang him casually - well you can, but you'd be playing with his feelings, seeing as how he confesses love to Tav before initiating any kind of physical intimacy. So like imagine you made love to someone you really care about for the first time and you're pouring your heart out to them about how much it meant to you and they're just like, "Whatever it was fine." I'd be pretty hurt too. That being said his little, "I could blow myself up at any moment" speech is just plain fucking funny, especially knowing that he actually would never do it unless Tav told him to.
@@breejean7705 They do have this really one amazing therapist in Faerun, who seems to be quite popular with people that are dealing with serious trauma-- their name is "Tav" or something, if I recall correctly 😆
Same I found it really funny. I’m surprised ppl take him seriously. Of course it is a dark and fucked up joke but since you have to make yourself an asshole to get it, id say it’s fair. Plus he acknowledges it was uncouth as fuck if you say you were kidding.
To be fair, if you actually tell him you're going to leave him, he treats it with utmost respect and care. I get it that the bomb joke is funny but he's not *that* bad
@@artemyburakh12if you break up with him soon after this he is very respectful but does start sobbing immediately and tries to hide it or play it off. I only did it to see how he’d react and see the dialogue than immediately reloaded. I felt so bad.
@@Emperor_Mateus_of_Palamecia As the paladin/cleric of the group, I’m pretty sure my character was begging for divine intervention to help them. “Tyr, please help these people and redirect their affections somewhere else…away from me.”
@@mickymcbryan4814 Now there's a phrase I'm going to be using in real life as a euphemism. "I'm going to have to tell him to his face that I'm not interested because it looks like his romance flags are broken... I keep on trying to let him down gently but he just refuses to get it".
@@XmatineeX Alternatively, he's just that desperate, which is sadly also a thing that exists. It's kind of fitting that it would be him, too, with the fragile self esteem he has.
@@cabbageleon4914 "do you love me ?" aha sure thing hun "am i good in bed ?" uuuh y-yea, definitaly... "can i have your most precious relics ?" ..........ok...
Gale is depressed, and has absolutely no self esteem. He's also a victim of Mystra grooming him - he was a kid when she started getting inappropriate, and she truly used him as a plaything for her amusements. The orb problem was his fault, sure, but he only did it to try to prove himself to his - well, to his abuser / Goddess. Karlach, Gale, Wyll, Shadowheart, Laezael, and Astarion all have this in common: they're trying to get past their relationships with abusive, manipulative , magical beings. They're all striving towards freedom. They all have flaws. They over-react to the beings in both directions (both by doing too much for the being, and later, by doing too much to try to get away.) I love watching all of their quests progress, and I plan on seeing the ends of all of them eventually, even if I can't do them all in the same play through (but I'm trying. I'm a bit stumped about one right now, but I'm working on it.)
People can see the common theme in the other companions yet completely miss it with Gale. The orb being his fault doesn't mean Mystra was innocent either. It's even clearer in Gale's romance, with all the grand promises he makes to Tav and him trying to be something more. Mystra has wraped his perception of what it means to be loved and he doesn't think he's worthy of any unless he proves himself
@@maristea5321 It's kinda insane how accomplished he is. Like...he has a lot of desirable traits. He has a whole tower and library, a cat, is very smart and powerful, he literally asks to cook for you if you ever go to waterdeep? But he's been so abused he has dangerously low self-esteem. He already has a lot of good qualities people find attractive in others but he wasn't made to feel like enough by his ex at all. She's also a goddess and he's a mortal. Try to come up with a bigger power imbalance than that.
One of the things I hate the most is when I read of people not liking him because he's "not over his ex". They clearly did not understand a single thing about him if that's what they think. Sure he has feelings for her, a lot and all difficult (his words), but the same is for Astarion with Cazador, the same is for Lae'zel with Vlaakith ect. Obviously, she was his lover in the past, but he has ptsd for being groomed, abused and left out to rotten for a mistake he made just to do something nice for her. Not to mention, he's been locked in a tower with no interactions with anything or anyone outside of it for more than a year, the only thing he could think of it's obviously her and what happened between them. I'd probably be the same as him in his situation.@@damien678
@@damien678 It's pretty heartbreaking when you make Tav tell him he's enough as he is, yet Gale has a lot of trouble believing that. In the romance scene where Gale tells Tav "you love me for the man I am, not the magic I command. None have loved me so purely before." He measures his own worth with his magic prowess and it makes sense why he ended up with such low self-esteem
I mean, i can kind if get where gale is coming from in this scene. Dude worked his ass off, he probably did more than any other companion to give us a pleasurable night. He literally managed to show us how GODS do it. And it was "fine." Must have been crashing to hear. Not to mention his low esteem and Mystra's grooming, because you could write paragraphs about that-
not just the sex part either though, he treats you to a wonderfully romantic evening where he pours his heart out to you and after that to just go 'yeah last night was fine i guess'... i would say he's fairly right to be pissy about it
"whatever it takes to prevent you from blowing up" "stop fishing for compliments" 😂 some of those lines are crazy !!!! IM CACKLING! HE IS FINE, GUYS! Everything is just fine 🤣
To be fair to him… he did put a lot of work into that grand gesture AND confessed his love AND is dealing with the knowledge he has to blow himself up. So I don’t blame him lol plus he apologises after
My friend pointed out to me yesterday how Gale threatens to nuke himself whenever you say something he dislikes and it’s been the funniest thing to me ever since, he’s so fragile. We’ve collectively dubbed him as the man with the most red-flag ex-bf energy 😂
OMG, I also noticed this "still not over my ex vibes from him" but I gotta admit that his romance route it's very interesting because of his abilities. Edit: after seeing more videos of him I realised that he's not that bad, he was just a puppet for Mystra boredom and he's learning to how to receive genuine interest from someone, and also he's socially awkward this is why he say so much weird shit
He’s def over Mystra by the time he’s in a romance 😉 his romance plot line is so great actually. I’m glad I got my Tav with him. He makes it very clear he places Tav above Mystra and wouldn’t go back to Mystra if she offered to take him back
i think what people gotta remember is Gale is supposed to represent the follys of humanity. he represents a lot of shortcomings humans have like overzealous ambition, hubris, etc--compared to all the cosmic beings humans are surrounded with they arent given much credit for keeping up with all the other races. but gale/wyll also represent all the good things too like romanticism and passion because out of all the companions those 2 have the more romantic idealism and fleeting emotions that humans are prone to. they dont have the luxury of living 700 years and they gotta make the most of their comparatively short time. i like that both wyll and gale are flawed as they are--they literally are only human. not everyone has the luxry of an extra 200 years to mature and outgrow bad personality traits
I'm doing the Gale romance right now. I'm only in Act 1 (towards the end of it) and I honestly think most if not all of the hate he gets is undeserved. Maybe my opinion would be different had I done early access. 🤷♀️ --I'd be stuck up if I was good enough at magic from a young age that the literal goddess magic took very **personal** interest in me. --I'd also be hesitant to tell someone I just met "by the way, I have a magic nuke in my chest" (Astarion doesn't tell you he's a vampire at the start and Shadowheart doesn't tell you she worships Shar. Both things that are also considered bad by the general populace).
right? like if i was literally GOD'S FAVORITE you gd right im gonna have a LITTLE ego--but he even admits to the party that "i am the villian in this story" because he KNOWS how cosmically he fucked up. he feels so crappy about himself so all of his nervous responses just confirm how shitty he feels. like people cant fathom not being confident? wild to me. Gale is a great character and its a shame he is the whipping boy rn @@NinjaFlibble
he is one of my favorite characters of all tiem and its so ironic to see people bash him because ive played dnd for 15 years and i know SO MANY players who literally make the same choices as him in games. like power grabs, petty actions, keeping secrets--literally all players can admit to having done that. gale is the most human character of the group @@maristea5321
dude literally pull out 6 arms and 3 heads to please u and u guys saying u wont be a lil mad if ur date says " its fine" and then "would you rather i have lied?"
Most of the companions have literally the same development, gimmick is simple - their personality you first meet is just for show, that serves as a protective layer for their cute uwu vulnerable selves 🥺🥺🥺 (I think wyll is an exception along with halsin I guess ? Idk about the drow but she seems like another “wrrr I’m evil ! B-but it’s because of t-trauma !!!!😭”)
@@cen3684 My dudes if you're out "adventuring" and looting corpses of course you have some mental issues. It's like making an OF or joining the Marine Corp - legally and socially it's fine, but we all know deep down there are some daddy/mommy issues at play.
@@cen3684 Nah, Wyll if you deny him, is just casual about it. So is Laezael if you simply tell her no more sex she's like fine bitch. Gale is the only one whose ego is so huge he cannot handle rejection or being humbled until like maybe near the end of the game LOL
All this Gale hate when the man **LITERALLY** conjured the moon, stars, a massive field, among other shit depending on which option you picked for your night of passion. I'd kinda be mad too if all I got for that the next morning was "fine". That's like cooking your lover a gourmet meal full of dishes you know they like and getting a similar, unenthusiastic response when you ask how it was.
I'd be mad and hurt too, but that doesn't mean you get to make death threats... Gale is a good character and can be really sweet, but he is 100% toxic bf energy and if someone acts like that irl get out of there. I speak from experience.
@@omen8491 Yeah, if someone responded to me like "what if I blow us all up then" I'd be sneaking out in the night. No polite goodbyes just getting away from that person as soon as possible
That reaction is fair. He literally is a walking nuclear bomb because he felt he wasn’t good enough in his past relationship, and he clearly went ALL out with that night together
As much as I like Gale, he would be the kind of guy to start planning a future together after a hookup and then threatens to kill himself when you tell him you're not actually in a relationship
I think his romance flag bug has people misunderstanding the poor guy and as someone who got their Tav with him and got his full backstory I will say he’s absolutely not that type of character 😅 hes spent his life being valued for magic and has no self esteem but he is a good type of wizard The romance scene before this isn’t a casual one. He declares his love for Tav and spends ages preparing a grand gesture of how he feels before any intimacy. So it makes sense he’d be this upset. I feel so defensive for the writers! He’s legit such a lovely character 😭
@@selty I know, I was just joking. I think that the issue with Gale is not the writing at all but a bug. Something is triggering his romance when it shouldn't and I hope Larian patches it soon because Gale is getting way too much hate and a lot of people are getting nive guy vibes from him because of it.
@@iLubCakeZ No it's the bug. Games with choices like this always honor your decisions regarding breakups etc. Karlach in my first playthrough thought she was dating my Tav and got upset when they started seeing someone as if they were cheating on her!
Man, I was rushing Astarion's romance path while I was playing my full lawful good bard. I finally made it and THEN Gale decided to confess. I swear I never looked for his romance path and he out of nowhere told me: I love you. I said it wasn't mutual, and he had the audacity to throw s tantrum and go manipulative mode. Like WTF Gale 💀💀
Ah come on guys. Yeah, he does do the whole "don't shake the fragile man-bomb", line as a kind of threat, BUT he does then immediately take it back and confess he's just stressed out with everything going on. I wouldn't say Gale is trying to be manipulative, but he is rather sensitive. I can only imagine how much Mystra made him feel like he was never good enough for her love and favor. Feeling inadequate as a lover is understandably triggering for him.
I don't really care much for Gale- at least in *that* way. Though seeing him so heartbroken at being told he was just "Fine" in bed and his reaction, that hurt to watch. Next time I see him I'll donate another magic item- on the house!
I play couch co-op with my husband and I was a wizard so we didn't really take him anywhere so we just starved him of his magical artifacts and then one day he just ran away lol
Right, Tim Downie also talked about him being an actor like he'd prefer to hear something more than that half-assed word that doesn't open for a proper critique. I don't know what's so hard to think that "it was fine" is just not a good word to use at all.
Bro is literally a nice guy 😭 “Um, you want to leave me ? Then I’m going to kill myself, and it’s your fault, look how heartless you are. Oh you actually are just joking ? Oh haha sorry for being a lil ass, what a goofball I am, a real wacky ol’weirdo xD“
Yeah, this dialogue soured his whole character for me. I didn’t know he could be so manipulative. And over something as stupid as what I thought of our first time.
There's a bit of context missing here. This dialogue prompts right after his second romance scene, and in that scene he believes it'll be his last night alive so he does everything he can to make it special for Tav. That night meant a lot to him and he let his emotions get the better of him. Heck, he even caught himself going too far and apologizes right after. Gale isn't a perfect guy, but he's not the toxic incel people are paint him out to be
listen, ive been an astarion girly since launch. i started romancing gale two days ago in a new play through. I'm in love. act 3 and man I'm a gale girly as well now. seeing him so upset
I enjoyed Gale romance until he brought up Mystra for the billionth time then asked to go see her in act 3 and I said no as best I could with the dialogue choices allowed but in the end the quest marker appeared anyway. I felt like a third wheel or a second best. I broke up with him.
Mystra is his goddess and played a huge part in his life, it makes sense why he'll bring her up in random convos. The part where Mystra asks for an audience with him wasn't bad in my game. He didn't go see Mystra to rekindle their relationship
Gale having the one-on-one talk with Mystra is a huge and mandatory part of not only his questline but the main storyline as well. It's not something you can just put off, it's central to the whole netherbrain and crown of karsus plot. What you can do is help Gale make up his mind about whether or not he should trust her.
i really like hanging out with him as a bro in my playthrough and am surprised he actually threatens to blow up his magic nuke because you said he's just fine in bed. is he always this toxic with his lovers? I think I'm seeing a trend here
Gale is, I'm pretty sure, a narcissist. That doesn't make him a bad person, necessarily, but it DOES definitely make him have some pretty bad character flaws that pop up pretty hard every once in a while.
Gale has always had a huge ego. But I'll defend him on this one because in the romance scene, he said he wanted that moment to be special because that night could be his last. So saying this was probably like a slap in the face to him
Actually no, it just depends on your choices. Astarion and Lae’zel i believe, can be very toxic if you dont stroke their ego too. Not sure about others. So far i’ve only romanced these 3 and Karlach (sweetheart through and through evne if you are mean to her). Gale can be very, very sweet. I tried breaking up with him and he was softly speaking about his disappointment in himself. That he gave his heart to me foolishly too easily or something like that. There are 10+ breaking up reactions btw depending on your response. And the reactions are all my exes combined 😂😂😂 one just wants to quarrel with me, one is just sad but still gentle, one is just a toxic snarky little biatch, and etcetc. Your responses to your cheating can also trigger a multitude of emotional responses.
@@reeeyou Yeah, it's not surprising he's a bit arrogant. His relationship with Mystra is complicated, but he mentions that she took interest in him because of his abilities. The reason why I like Gale's romance so much is because Gale thinks he needs to give grand displays of magic or chase power to win over Tav, and this is probably because being with a goddess made him believe he's only worthy if he proves himself. Which is why it was so satisfying seeing Tav convince Gale that he was enough as he is. He's mostly sweet and there are times he comes off as an ass. I still think he's great, flaws and all :)
So I found out the end dialogue where he very cornily says something like “I dare anyone to try and stop me” is something he actually says more seriously if you don’t tease him. NOW I see his grandiose dialogue in a very different way. Man needs to brainstorm with Astarion because they are BOTH practicing their lines lmao.
Thank you for your work, I would never be able to have the courage to tell Gale that it was fine as it is simply too heart-breaking. What if he blows himself up?
The only polyamorous options are: Shadowheart + Halsin + PC Astarion + Halsin + PC No other combination of characters will work and you’ll have to choose one person.
To be hnest, up until now his kisses were fine and that stretchews it. I love the voice acting and the way he articulates himself. I like to have honest romantics in the mix (even though I am not one usually) and he looks good. But why in the nine hells does he kisses me like he would kiss our child goodnight and had no hands free for a cuddle? What did Mystra do to him? One would think shagging a goddes would leave you with some skill at it. (Well, or he just got used to doinhg it all through magical expression and never actually learned to physically kiss great...)
Feels like "it was fine" is the cannon choice for this and you basically either stroke his ego or tell the truth. I think most of the other romance option don't even get a "fine" option after sleeping with them.
Had to turn him down cause I went for Astarion, like almost everyone it seems 🤣 But the longer I play the more I feel sorry about it, I want to cuddle this poor little wizard. Ah well, in the next playthrough I’m golfing to play a bard and she will be all Gale‘s 😬
Your Tav looks great, I think i’m gonna go for a similar look on my third play-through. It’s about time I go for a devilish look! It’s so hard to be evil though!!! I’m honestly impressed with all the players who are taking an evil route, like how do you not pity everyone?? I’m on act 3 on a second play through rn, and this time I chose to be a Tiefling as well! He’s got vitiligo and a moustache that makes him look like a sad baby cow all the time lol 😭 his face is just stuck at :< and the eyeliner enhances the look even more. It wasn’t intended but in-game facial expressions just make him into a cutie patootie But yours looks so badass damn, great work!! Love the scars and the beard, so frickin cool Same as u I Also decided to romance Gale on my second p-t and tbh it is so hard not to break up with him… Annnd it’s also hard TO break up as well. I pre saved and did it AND GODS THAT’S WAY TOO SAD. he doesn’t even ask about the reasoning??? Eventually, thought it’s best I finish the game with him as my partner but he’s sooo pouty to me, and it seems like you can’t give him much support and yk, work on it together (?) (like you can with Astarion (or maybe I’ll be able to later on idk..) so to all Gale lovers, you’re so strong.. he seems like the type of guy to start a podcast when his feelings get hurt
and even though i say all that, i find gale quite handsome nonetheless, he’s got a charm. just seeing the dialogue you get when you make halsin join you and the drow twins was worth romancing him, he’s precious
I like him regardless. I wouldn't touch most of the RO's personality types irl (except maybe Halsin or Karlach), but in a game? Why not. So what if his fishing for attention and praise involves threats of self-destruction? XD
And people think Astarion is a drama queen XD Gale perfected the Drama Queen! Gods I love all our wet pathetic little companions who all need some goddamn therapy and lots of hugs.
I'm really happy with how my tiefling turned out. I'm glad you like him! :) I have the "new character creation presets" mod installed. The face he uses is Toarie's Kai.
It is, i played a character, romancing him. She was always relaxed and understanding and caring. So in the end Gale married a cute elf lady in my first play through ❤ Though the title makes me wonder, was there a second night that I missed?
Since people keep asking, both outfits are from the basket full of equipment at NexusMods!
What? that is gortashs' outfit on gale
and u can get it early with the basket full of equipment mod@@XxKniFingGHSTxX
@@XxKniFingGHSTxXYes but the mod gives it to you early, you don't fight Gortash until Act 3, in Act 2 Gale ends the game early if you "use" him.
@@sasori2425 It does? I have that mod and I don't see it anywhere. x_x Could you direct me on which basket it's in?
if I say pretty please would you send the link?
pretty please
Tav: "It was fine"
Gale: "Should I kill myself?"
LMAO gale in a nutshell
Sounds like my ex
So extreme
im sorry, but ive been crying about this comment for like 10 minutes. thats my mental health right there.
@@dueljewel7248 same 😭
gale's mental health problems are the most relatable to me because his first reaction to any negative emotion is "what if i blew myself up."
Gale: "How was the food I made?"
Tav: "A bit cold."
Gale: "Ah well then I suppose I should heat it right up!"
*NUKES IT*
Homeboy has problems of self steem
@@emclevertonI think when meeting the druid one of the "correct" answers to "What does Gale feel is his biggest failing" is something like "Sometimes Gale feels that the world would be better if he did not exist in it". Poor guy
he’s literally me
@@JB-xl2jc That bit made me so sad. He has several asides throughout the game that make it clear he's extremely depressed and at least passively suicidal. Forget the magical artifacts. My man needs Potion of Lexapro.
He may be sensitive, but he would love you as a worm.
Oh God 😂😂😂
He'd love tav, then wonder why waste his life on a simple worm and go find another 😂
I can just picture a modern tav asking that, and gale going
"What an absurd question, but yes... I would still love you as a worm."
As if they dont have one already
he'd transmorph into a worm too and you could squiggle away together
Tav: "It was fine"
Gale: "and what if I blow us all up? What then"
"I'll show YOU an explosive finish"
This comment made me cry HAHAHA
Tav: "It was fine."
Gale: "Don't come to school tomorrow."
This legitimately made me almost spit my coffee out. Bravo
Get outta here now. 😂
i need you to know that this just made me laugh so hard that i cried thank you 😭😭😭
i almost had to spit my tea back into its cup
LMAOOO
"I mean, you diddnt exactly last very lo-_"
"A WIZARD IS NEVER LATE, NOR IS HE EARLY, HE ARRIVES PRECICELY WHEN HE MEANS TO!"
This is the comment that sent me over the edge 😭
THIS! 👏👏
"I CAME RIGHT IN TIME!"
-Gale probably
Yoooooo 💀💀💀. Gandalf would not approve of this misuse, y'all 😭😭😭.
@@minaldhurve8988 Which makes it all the better XDD
"woe betide anyone who tries to stop me." *weakly shakes fist, awkward laugh*
what a fucking loser, i love him
The delivery on that line was hilarious🤣 man i love Tim Downie
Literally me
I don’t know how this dude banged a godess
literally😂😭
Me 😂
Gale: “I was about to kill myself. So how was last night?”
“It was fine.”
Gale: “You know what I said before, I’m gonna do it”
And people act like Astarion is the drama king 😂😭
@@cosmicivy8315
He definitely is.
Tav: It was fine
Gale: Wanna see my impersonation of a can of beans in the microwave?
I JUST SPAT MY TEA THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING IVE READ IN YEARS
I CANT OMG
STOP 💀💀⚰️⚰️
Gale is the kind of guy who'd go
"Oh! Oh I see. Quite a merry jest there. You had me spun for quite the chuckle. Quite the chuckle indeed."
*Then he nukes the sword coast*
😭😭😭😭
"It was fine"
That was Gales 13th reason
I mean you're not far off, he literally stated in this scene that if he hadn't fallen for you, he probably would have thrown in the towel
To be fair, Gale is one of the few companions you can only "be intimate with" after developing the romance first. You can't just bang him casually - well you can, but you'd be playing with his feelings, seeing as how he confesses love to Tav before initiating any kind of physical intimacy. So like imagine you made love to someone you really care about for the first time and you're pouring your heart out to them about how much it meant to you and they're just like, "Whatever it was fine." I'd be pretty hurt too. That being said his little, "I could blow myself up at any moment" speech is just plain fucking funny, especially knowing that he actually would never do it unless Tav told him to.
Hmmm.. that exact scenario happened to me with my ex-girlfriend. So I can relate to Gale being pissed off lol
I get it, but like. Gale pls get help.
@@Miles_Phantasmagoria I wonder if they got therapy in Faerun...
@@breejean7705 They do have this really one amazing therapist in Faerun, who seems to be quite popular with people that are dealing with serious trauma-- their name is "Tav" or something, if I recall correctly 😆
Same I found it really funny. I’m surprised ppl take him seriously. Of course it is a dark and fucked up joke but since you have to make yourself an asshole to get it, id say it’s fair. Plus he acknowledges it was uncouth as fuck if you say you were kidding.
tav: gale i want to talk about our relationship
gale: if you leave me i will kill myself
tav:
To be fair, if you actually tell him you're going to leave him, he treats it with utmost respect and care. I get it that the bomb joke is funny but he's not *that* bad
@@artemyburakh12if you break up with him soon after this he is very respectful but does start sobbing immediately and tries to hide it or play it off. I only did it to see how he’d react and see the dialogue than immediately reloaded. I felt so bad.
My class isn't Bard. It's over worked personal therapist for a bunch of odd balls. 😅
I’m in the same boat as you lmao. My character is just the group’s overworked emotional support gnome
@@Emperor_Mateus_of_Palamecia
As the paladin/cleric of the group, I’m pretty sure my character was begging for divine intervention to help them.
“Tyr, please help these people and redirect their affections somewhere else…away from me.”
My class isn't bard. It's purveyor of second hand fashion items and kitchen wares.
@@owenangleton8032 Give me a spoon and I can sell it, give me a bunch of spoons and I can barter them for dye. 😶
Cleric of the Therapy Domain
I never humored Gale's affections for me, but I still had to break up with him like three times.
In his defence, apparently his romance flags are broken.
yeah me too. he dropped the "i'm in love with you" on me immediately after astarion confessed. that was... awkward, to say the least lol
@@lavishlyvice Hey now, sometimes people fall in love without talking much. He's that person who just admires Tav so much he falls in love!
@@mickymcbryan4814 Now there's a phrase I'm going to be using in real life as a euphemism. "I'm going to have to tell him to his face that I'm not interested because it looks like his romance flags are broken... I keep on trying to let him down gently but he just refuses to get it".
@@XmatineeX Alternatively, he's just that desperate, which is sadly also a thing that exists. It's kind of fitting that it would be him, too, with the fragile self esteem he has.
God damn he really just said
”humm yes huney cool and all, but should i remind you im a NUKE”
that's why we should keep him safe at all costs and lie to him that he's more than fine in bed
@@cabbageleon4914 "do you love me ?" aha sure thing hun
"am i good in bed ?" uuuh y-yea, definitaly...
"can i have your most precious relics ?"
..........ok...
i do love him but my god ghost projection whatever gale is not a fun bed time activity@@jeanmouloude
Tav: -It was fine
Gale: *sadge*
Tav: -Nvm, just kidding
Gale: *happyiii*
Lol he do be like that
Tav: “Yeah last night was fine “
Gale: “Would it also be fine if I killed myself?”
Gale is depressed, and has absolutely no self esteem. He's also a victim of Mystra grooming him - he was a kid when she started getting inappropriate, and she truly used him as a plaything for her amusements. The orb problem was his fault, sure, but he only did it to try to prove himself to his - well, to his abuser / Goddess.
Karlach, Gale, Wyll, Shadowheart, Laezael, and Astarion all have this in common: they're trying to get past their relationships with abusive, manipulative , magical beings. They're all striving towards freedom. They all have flaws. They over-react to the beings in both directions (both by doing too much for the being, and later, by doing too much to try to get away.)
I love watching all of their quests progress, and I plan on seeing the ends of all of them eventually, even if I can't do them all in the same play through (but I'm trying. I'm a bit stumped about one right now, but I'm working on it.)
People can see the common theme in the other companions yet completely miss it with Gale. The orb being his fault doesn't mean Mystra was innocent either. It's even clearer in Gale's romance, with all the grand promises he makes to Tav and him trying to be something more. Mystra has wraped his perception of what it means to be loved and he doesn't think he's worthy of any unless he proves himself
@@maristea5321Not to mention Gale was bugged and they recently tuned him down.
@@maristea5321 It's kinda insane how accomplished he is. Like...he has a lot of desirable traits. He has a whole tower and library, a cat, is very smart and powerful, he literally asks to cook for you if you ever go to waterdeep?
But he's been so abused he has dangerously low self-esteem. He already has a lot of good qualities people find attractive in others but he wasn't made to feel like enough by his ex at all.
She's also a goddess and he's a mortal. Try to come up with a bigger power imbalance than that.
One of the things I hate the most is when I read of people not liking him because he's "not over his ex". They clearly did not understand a single thing about him if that's what they think. Sure he has feelings for her, a lot and all difficult (his words), but the same is for Astarion with Cazador, the same is for Lae'zel with Vlaakith ect. Obviously, she was his lover in the past, but he has ptsd for being groomed, abused and left out to rotten for a mistake he made just to do something nice for her. Not to mention, he's been locked in a tower with no interactions with anything or anyone outside of it for more than a year, the only thing he could think of it's obviously her and what happened between them. I'd probably be the same as him in his situation.@@damien678
@@damien678 It's pretty heartbreaking when you make Tav tell him he's enough as he is, yet Gale has a lot of trouble believing that.
In the romance scene where Gale tells Tav "you love me for the man I am, not the magic I command. None have loved me so purely before." He measures his own worth with his magic prowess and it makes sense why he ended up with such low self-esteem
Dude literally threatens to blow himself up because you said he's only "fine" in bed 💀For a dude who rizzed up a god he's pretty pissy
Well... More like the goddess of magic wanted a pet, and chose a kid. I'm surprised Gale's as well adjusted as he is!
@@josh___something he should've listened to his ca- I mean tressym
@@Men_dra The warning signs were that he was best friends with -his cat- a Tressym
Makes sense when you realize he's a victim of abuse and severely depressed
@@LordAryu where in the story are you meant to realise this? I've met Mystra with and Gale still seems 110% in the wrong with no excuses.
"It was fine"
Gale: "Well, would it be fine if I killed us all?"
dear lord XD
I mean, i can kind if get where gale is coming from in this scene. Dude worked his ass off, he probably did more than any other companion to give us a pleasurable night. He literally managed to show us how GODS do it.
And it was "fine."
Must have been crashing to hear.
Not to mention his low esteem and Mystra's grooming, because you could write paragraphs about that-
not just the sex part either though, he treats you to a wonderfully romantic evening where he pours his heart out to you and after that to just go 'yeah last night was fine i guess'... i would say he's fairly right to be pissy about it
"whatever it takes to prevent you from blowing up" "stop fishing for compliments" 😂 some of those lines are crazy !!!!
IM CACKLING! HE IS FINE, GUYS! Everything is just fine 🤣
He actually basically threatens you for not stroking his ego XD
his ego is the most huge and fragile, i hate him
Pssh Wizards am I right? 😅
To be fair to him… he did put a lot of work into that grand gesture AND confessed his love AND is dealing with the knowledge he has to blow himself up. So I don’t blame him lol plus he apologises after
’’’’Ego’’’’
(Sorry)
"Given my propensity towards verbosity, it surely can't be a surprise that I have a practiced tongue"
I'm stealing this line XD
That, and the other one regarding to make a better use of his mouth (I don't remember the exact words
My friend pointed out to me yesterday how Gale threatens to nuke himself whenever you say something he dislikes and it’s been the funniest thing to me ever since, he’s so fragile. We’ve collectively dubbed him as the man with the most red-flag ex-bf energy 😂
OMG, I also noticed this "still not over my ex vibes from him" but I gotta admit that his romance route it's very interesting because of his abilities.
Edit: after seeing more videos of him I realised that he's not that bad, he was just a puppet for Mystra boredom and he's learning to how to receive genuine interest from someone, and also he's socially awkward this is why he say so much weird shit
Right? I was going to romance him, but the longer I talk to him, the longer I go...but what if...no? What if none of that.
Yeahhh, sounds like emotional manipulation to me. No thanks.
This is hilariously ironic because he was 17 when Mystra got with him
He’s def over Mystra by the time he’s in a romance 😉 his romance plot line is so great actually. I’m glad I got my Tav with him. He makes it very clear he places Tav above Mystra and wouldn’t go back to Mystra if she offered to take him back
"Oh, so it was a joke." **Saying this, she casually threw aside a large rock.** 2:45
i think what people gotta remember is Gale is supposed to represent the follys of humanity. he represents a lot of shortcomings humans have like overzealous ambition, hubris, etc--compared to all the cosmic beings humans are surrounded with they arent given much credit for keeping up with all the other races. but gale/wyll also represent all the good things too like romanticism and passion because out of all the companions those 2 have the more romantic idealism and fleeting emotions that humans are prone to. they dont have the luxury of living 700 years and they gotta make the most of their comparatively short time. i like that both wyll and gale are flawed as they are--they literally are only human. not everyone has the luxry of an extra 200 years to mature and outgrow bad personality traits
I'm doing the Gale romance right now. I'm only in Act 1 (towards the end of it) and I honestly think most if not all of the hate he gets is undeserved. Maybe my opinion would be different had I done early access. 🤷♀️
--I'd be stuck up if I was good enough at magic from a young age that the literal goddess magic took very **personal** interest in me.
--I'd also be hesitant to tell someone I just met "by the way, I have a magic nuke in my chest" (Astarion doesn't tell you he's a vampire at the start and Shadowheart doesn't tell you she worships Shar. Both things that are also considered bad by the general populace).
Thank you! I wish I could pin 2 comments because I tire seeing bad takes on Gale. His flaws don't make him a bad character
@@maristea5321
If anything, flaws make him a *good* character.
right? like if i was literally GOD'S FAVORITE you gd right im gonna have a LITTLE ego--but he even admits to the party that "i am the villian in this story" because he KNOWS how cosmically he fucked up. he feels so crappy about himself so all of his nervous responses just confirm how shitty he feels. like people cant fathom not being confident? wild to me. Gale is a great character and its a shame he is the whipping boy rn @@NinjaFlibble
he is one of my favorite characters of all tiem and its so ironic to see people bash him because ive played dnd for 15 years and i know SO MANY players who literally make the same choices as him in games. like power grabs, petty actions, keeping secrets--literally all players can admit to having done that. gale is the most human character of the group @@maristea5321
Tav: It was fine.
Gale: You know what's also fine? Explosions. Very large explosions. They're mildly pretty to look at. Would you like to see one?
dude literally pull out 6 arms and 3 heads to please u and u guys saying u wont be a lil mad if ur date says " its fine" and then "would you rather i have lied?"
The amount of pain the voice actor puts into "I see," is so fucking good. God damn.
I think I just died laughing... and came back to watch this masterpiece again 😂
It was fine.
I see.
Gale is so fragile and pathetic. I like even more now. That speech, the final bitter FINE at the end.
Same, lol, it makes me kinda wanna bully him, haha
He sounds like one of those Nice Guys that turn on you the second you say no to them 😂😂😂
Most of the companions have literally the same development, gimmick is simple - their personality you first meet is just for show, that serves as a protective layer for their cute uwu vulnerable selves 🥺🥺🥺 (I think wyll is an exception along with halsin I guess ? Idk about the drow but she seems like another “wrrr I’m evil ! B-but it’s because of t-trauma !!!!😭”)
@@cen3684 My dudes if you're out "adventuring" and looting corpses of course you have some mental issues. It's like making an OF or joining the Marine Corp - legally and socially it's fine, but we all know deep down there are some daddy/mommy issues at play.
@@cen3684 Nah, Wyll if you deny him, is just casual about it. So is Laezael if you simply tell her no more sex she's like fine bitch. Gale is the only one whose ego is so huge he cannot handle rejection or being humbled until like maybe near the end of the game LOL
All this Gale hate when the man **LITERALLY** conjured the moon, stars, a massive field, among other shit depending on which option you picked for your night of passion. I'd kinda be mad too if all I got for that the next morning was "fine". That's like cooking your lover a gourmet meal full of dishes you know they like and getting a similar, unenthusiastic response when you ask how it was.
I'd be mad and hurt too, but that doesn't mean you get to make death threats... Gale is a good character and can be really sweet, but he is 100% toxic bf energy and if someone acts like that irl get out of there. I speak from experience.
@@omen8491 Yeah, if someone responded to me like "what if I blow us all up then" I'd be sneaking out in the night. No polite goodbyes just getting away from that person as soon as possible
It was fine-
Gale: would it be fine if I DIED!? HMM?
1:46 "I would have rather you lied"
Aren't we all?
That reaction is fair. He literally is a walking nuclear bomb because he felt he wasn’t good enough in his past relationship, and he clearly went ALL out with that night together
Tav: "it was fine."
Gale: "Say sike rn."
As much as I like Gale, he would be the kind of guy to start planning a future together after a hookup and then threatens to kill himself when you tell him you're not actually in a relationship
I think his romance flag bug has people misunderstanding the poor guy and as someone who got their Tav with him and got his full backstory I will say he’s absolutely not that type of character 😅 hes spent his life being valued for magic and has no self esteem but he is a good type of wizard
The romance scene before this isn’t a casual one. He declares his love for Tav and spends ages preparing a grand gesture of how he feels before any intimacy. So it makes sense he’d be this upset.
I feel so defensive for the writers! He’s legit such a lovely character 😭
@@selty I know, I was just joking. I think that the issue with Gale is not the writing at all but a bug. Something is triggering his romance when it shouldn't and I hope Larian patches it soon because Gale is getting way too much hate and a lot of people are getting nive guy vibes from him because of it.
@@seltywell in my play through with my bf, he couldn't break up with gale after the first night due to the bug.(or maybe it's gale😂)
@@iLubCakeZ No it's the bug. Games with choices like this always honor your decisions regarding breakups etc. Karlach in my first playthrough thought she was dating my Tav and got upset when they started seeing someone as if they were cheating on her!
@@thearcanamodernau8130 Yeah like I said it's a romance bug and I think it's been fixed. I had that issue with Karlach and Wyll.
Man, I was rushing Astarion's romance path while I was playing my full lawful good bard. I finally made it and THEN Gale decided to confess. I swear I never looked for his romance path and he out of nowhere told me: I love you.
I said it wasn't mutual, and he had the audacity to throw s tantrum and go manipulative mode. Like WTF Gale 💀💀
Geez, my boy was ready to buy me house in Waterdeep after a one night stand. I really need to put a ring on it
Tav: it was….fine
Gale: oh so it would be *FINE* if I jus ended it right here right now!!…😡
I can fix him
Ah come on guys.
Yeah, he does do the whole "don't shake the fragile man-bomb", line as a kind of threat, BUT he does then immediately take it back and confess he's just stressed out with everything going on. I wouldn't say Gale is trying to be manipulative, but he is rather sensitive. I can only imagine how much Mystra made him feel like he was never good enough for her love and favor. Feeling inadequate as a lover is understandably triggering for him.
What a fine conversation 😂
Gale is so petty it's too much fun to bully him, like when he gets mad at you for making the Moon Lantern yourself hahaha
That scene was so funny. Even thinking about being better at magic than him, he loses it 😭
lmao breaking my heart here
Watch this, Lis. You can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half.
Aaaaaaand 1:16 NOW
I understood that reference 😂😂😂
That outfit... :'D looks like an invisible mage hand is holding Gale up at the scruff of his neck :'D
Oh god Gale is actually pulling off Gortash’s douchey outfit
Lmao I love him bc when you’re nice to him he’s a sweety but when you’re not he says some out of pocket stuff
I love how fashionable this adventuring party is.
I don't really care much for Gale- at least in *that* way. Though seeing him so heartbroken at being told he was just "Fine" in bed and his reaction, that hurt to watch. Next time I see him I'll donate another magic item- on the house!
The immediate *higher pitched* “I see…”
Gortash outfit looks so bad on him, please just put it back on Gortash's corpse 😭😭😭
I needed Gale and my character to have matching boob window outfits. I will admit it's a bit OOC on Gale, lmao
I think it looks fine!
I would recomend WAVEMOTHER'S Robe instead
"Gortash's Robes But Sluttier" is a great look in my opinion.
@@mizushirokanon9174 This is always a good alternative
That neurodivergent rejection sensitivity 👌
i just want to say your character looks flawless. also im here because i somehow missed Gale and only now learned about his existence (im in act3)
I play couch co-op with my husband and I was a wizard so we didn't really take him anywhere so we just starved him of his magical artifacts and then one day he just ran away lol
he's so vexed, that's so cute XD
"fine" is about the most offensive thing you could say to a guy like Gale. Saying it was shit would have been better.
Right, Tim Downie also talked about him being an actor like he'd prefer to hear something more than that half-assed word that doesn't open for a proper critique. I don't know what's so hard to think that "it was fine" is just not a good word to use at all.
Bro is literally a nice guy 😭
“Um, you want to leave me ? Then I’m going to kill myself, and it’s your fault, look how heartless you are. Oh you actually are just joking ? Oh haha sorry for being a lil ass, what a goofball I am, a real wacky ol’weirdo xD“
Yeah, this dialogue soured his whole character for me. I didn’t know he could be so manipulative. And over something as stupid as what I thought of our first time.
gale haters are so weird... like damn how badly can you misunderstand a character
@@CommanderNam Did you watch the video? Is his reaction okay with you?
@CommanderNam please explain why threatening to blow yourself up because you said sex with him is "fine" is okay. 😅
There's a bit of context missing here. This dialogue prompts right after his second romance scene, and in that scene he believes it'll be his last night alive so he does everything he can to make it special for Tav. That night meant a lot to him and he let his emotions get the better of him. Heck, he even caught himself going too far and apologizes right after. Gale isn't a perfect guy, but he's not the toxic incel people are paint him out to be
Gale's default response to things he dislikes is to threaten to kill himself and everyone else around him
Meanwhile I just see all these armors and I’m like, all my guys look like garbage goblins
listen, ive been an astarion girly since launch. i started romancing gale two days ago in a new play through. I'm in love. act 3 and man I'm a gale girly as well now. seeing him so upset
GOD gortash's outfit on gale???? gorgeous
Don’t threaten to unalive yourself and everyone else challenge; level: impossible
Gortash of Waterdeep
Gale is so lively and animated and I love his dialogue definitely an interesting one
3:00 what the dog doing in the background XD
His best!
Hate gortash all you want but he was DRIPPED OUT THE WAZOO
His outfit even looks good on gale
I enjoyed Gale romance until he brought up Mystra for the billionth time then asked to go see her in act 3 and I said no as best I could with the dialogue choices allowed but in the end the quest marker appeared anyway. I felt like a third wheel or a second best. I broke up with him.
Mystra is his goddess and played a huge part in his life, it makes sense why he'll bring her up in random convos. The part where Mystra asks for an audience with him wasn't bad in my game. He didn't go see Mystra to rekindle their relationship
She groomed him
Gale having the one-on-one talk with Mystra is a huge and mandatory part of not only his questline but the main storyline as well. It's not something you can just put off, it's central to the whole netherbrain and crown of karsus plot. What you can do is help Gale make up his mind about whether or not he should trust her.
Gale is so dramatic, I love him
i really like hanging out with him as a bro in my playthrough and am surprised he actually threatens to blow up his magic nuke because you said he's just fine in bed. is he always this toxic with his lovers? I think I'm seeing a trend here
Gale is, I'm pretty sure, a narcissist. That doesn't make him a bad person, necessarily, but it DOES definitely make him have some pretty bad character flaws that pop up pretty hard every once in a while.
Gale has always had a huge ego. But I'll defend him on this one because in the romance scene, he said he wanted that moment to be special because that night could be his last. So saying this was probably like a slap in the face to him
Actually no, it just depends on your choices. Astarion and Lae’zel i believe, can be very toxic if you dont stroke their ego too. Not sure about others. So far i’ve only romanced these 3 and Karlach (sweetheart through and through evne if you are mean to her).
Gale can be very, very sweet. I tried breaking up with him and he was softly speaking about his disappointment in himself. That he gave his heart to me foolishly too easily or something like that. There are 10+ breaking up reactions btw depending on your response. And the reactions are all my exes combined 😂😂😂 one just wants to quarrel with me, one is just sad but still gentle, one is just a toxic snarky little biatch, and etcetc. Your responses to your cheating can also trigger a multitude of emotional responses.
@@reeeyou Yeah, it's not surprising he's a bit arrogant. His relationship with Mystra is complicated, but he mentions that she took interest in him because of his abilities. The reason why I like Gale's romance so much is because Gale thinks he needs to give grand displays of magic or chase power to win over Tav, and this is probably because being with a goddess made him believe he's only worthy if he proves himself. Which is why it was so satisfying seeing Tav convince Gale that he was enough as he is.
He's mostly sweet and there are times he comes off as an ass. I still think he's great, flaws and all :)
@@maristea5321My thoughts exactly. I romanced him in my first playthrough and didn't regret it in the slightest 😊
So I found out the end dialogue where he very cornily says something like “I dare anyone to try and stop me” is something he actually says more seriously if you don’t tease him.
NOW I see his grandiose dialogue in a very different way. Man needs to brainstorm with Astarion because they are BOTH practicing their lines lmao.
Mr. Nice Guy strikes again... Gale is wonderful as long as he doesn't think you're flirting with him...
the description for this video yes op gets it he's soooo bullyable
Thank you for your work, I would never be able to have the courage to tell Gale that it was fine as it is simply too heart-breaking. What if he blows himself up?
he is such a walking red flag pick me guy lmaoo, ill have to romance him next time haha
Is it possible to romance all characters at once? Asking for a friend…
nope. only a few characters are willing to have a throuple
The only polyamorous options are:
Shadowheart + Halsin + PC
Astarion + Halsin + PC
No other combination of characters will work and you’ll have to choose one person.
@@eccentricstate it feels like there should be more , karlach especially would be down for that sort of thing
@@eccentricstate Astarion doesn't seem to be genuinely into it though, so I'm not sure if that counts.
Astarion is okay with it if he's Ascended
And Shadowheart is okay with it if she laid you first@@lavishlyvice
Oh so that's who Anders from Dragon Age reincarnated as lol
To be hnest, up until now his kisses were fine and that stretchews it.
I love the voice acting and the way he articulates himself. I like to have honest romantics in the mix (even though I am not one usually) and he looks good.
But why in the nine hells does he kisses me like he would kiss our child goodnight and had no hands free for a cuddle? What did Mystra do to him? One would think shagging a goddes would leave you with some skill at it. (Well, or he just got used to doinhg it all through magical expression and never actually learned to physically kiss great...)
The VA genuinely sounds upset 😂😂😂 I think it was personal
It's their job to sound upset
Feels like "it was fine" is the cannon choice for this and you basically either stroke his ego or tell the truth. I think most of the other romance option don't even get a "fine" option after sleeping with them.
Had to turn him down cause I went for Astarion, like almost everyone it seems 🤣
But the longer I play the more I feel sorry about it, I want to cuddle this poor little wizard. Ah well, in the next playthrough I’m golfing to play a bard and she will be all Gale‘s 😬
I have a bard who is romancing Gale!
Your Tav looks great, I think i’m gonna go for a similar look on my third play-through. It’s about time I go for a devilish look! It’s so hard to be evil though!!! I’m honestly impressed with all the players who are taking an evil route, like how do you not pity everyone??
I’m on act 3 on a second play through rn, and this time I chose to be a Tiefling as well! He’s got vitiligo and a moustache that makes him look like a sad baby cow all the time lol 😭
his face is just stuck at :< and the eyeliner enhances the look even more. It wasn’t intended but in-game facial expressions just make him into a cutie patootie
But yours looks so badass damn, great work!! Love the scars and the beard, so frickin cool
Same as u I Also decided to romance Gale on my second p-t and tbh it is so hard not to break up with him… Annnd it’s also hard TO break up as well. I pre saved and did it AND GODS THAT’S WAY TOO SAD. he doesn’t even ask about the reasoning???
Eventually, thought it’s best I finish the game with him as my partner but he’s sooo pouty to me, and it seems like you can’t give him much support and yk, work on it together (?) (like you can with Astarion (or maybe I’ll be able to later on idk..)
so to all Gale lovers, you’re so strong.. he seems like the type of guy to start a podcast when his feelings get hurt
and even though i say all that, i find gale quite handsome nonetheless, he’s got a charm. just seeing the dialogue you get when you make halsin join you and the drow twins was worth romancing him, he’s precious
LOL poor guy (also your tav is gorgeous!)
why gale look so drippy
Man your tiefling looks gorgeous. If Haarlep looked this good, maybe I might have considered his offer.
That Gortash's outfit looks beautiful on Gale
Gale is Kenough. ✊🏻😔
he gets so butthurt lol 😂
I like him regardless. I wouldn't touch most of the RO's personality types irl (except maybe Halsin or Karlach), but in a game? Why not. So what if his fishing for attention and praise involves threats of self-destruction? XD
Never ever say "fine" to Gale.
Fine stands for:
Freaked out...
Insecure...
Neurotic...
And Emotional.
(The Italian Job)
And people think Astarion is a drama queen XD Gale perfected the Drama Queen! Gods I love all our wet pathetic little companions who all need some goddamn therapy and lots of hugs.
Tav: *Tells a man with an explosive orb in his chest that he was merely fine*
Me: *Look at the size of those balls*
ah i felt the vibes immediately upon talking to him for the first time- im glad to see i was correct ;;
This is scary how many people (including me) would choose such dranatic and I should say, erratic response.
Dude you have the most gorgeous tifling! What face mold did you use for him? It suits that beard perfectly
I'm really happy with how my tiefling turned out. I'm glad you like him! :)
I have the "new character creation presets" mod installed. The face he uses is Toarie's Kai.
oh cool, does that mod go through steam workshop?
That or nexus mods is wager^
@@devilleknievel2144 Sorry, I forgot to mention that it's from NexusMods!
He's a very handsome Tiefling indeed, gives off Mephistophiles vibes ❤❤❤
It is, i played a character, romancing him. She was always relaxed and understanding and caring. So in the end Gale married a cute elf lady in my first play through ❤
Though the title makes me wonder, was there a second night that I missed?
That's the same kind of face when I created shadow lantern without his help 😂
Love Gale but im pretty sure i glitched his romance, in at the end of Act ll. On another note where did you get that robe for him?