The cheapest Highend Loadcell Pedals you can buy | Najam Simtec K2X Pedal Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- At 185€ these pedals are pretty much unbeatable. They might not look the fanciest, but they perform just as well as much higher priced competitors.
www.najam-simtec.de/
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0:00 - Intro & Disclaimer
0:39 - Design & Basic Specs
1:13 - Build Quality
2:18 - Throttle
4:26 - Brake
7:53 - Electronics
9:02 - Calibration
11:43 - Driving
14:44 - Conclusion
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Already have a nice set of pedals, but I would buy these if I needed without hesitation. It's awesome to see someone bringing simracing hardware manufacturing down to Earth, cause nowadays it seems you need to sell your house to get a piece of gear. Best of luck for Najam Simtec.
Thank you for your support, Much appreciated
@@najamsimtec these are out of stock? I actually don't have to pay for import taxes if they are made in Germany,cause I am ex Yugoslavia Balkan. I dt nedd to confirm with customs. Do you have people reporting issues with them? Good thing on pc everything is compatible. Fanatec are made in China.
Just ordered a pair of them, can’t wait!
We need more products like this, great to see what can be done for so little money. Also very impressed with how clean the signal is from the load cell. My diy pedals have so much noise so very tempting to pick these up.
These look amazing and value for money. Will definitely buy soon. Good luck Najam Simtec
Have been chasing a new set of pedals and these really looks promising - ordered a set and hope they turn out well. Thanks Dan for a good review!
@@thedude4964 Had them for half a year, it's super for peoples that NEED effective pedals while lacking some money. But if you have the money, just go for a set from a known brand. It's easy to use, but there's is some problems with it that makes me say what i just said above in my message.
Go for this set if you're short on money, if not, buy a "real" set.
@@_XxXxXwhat about if I'm not sure that going from CSL LC to VRS Sprint will give me 300€ more worth? And just take these insteas, as my Fanatecs are getting a bit worn
Thank you for this ❤
Not every one of us is fortunate enough to be able to fork 300-400-500 euros or more for a good set of pedals.
How do you think us Aussies feel. When talking price... 500 euro is $800 plus Aussie. Even worse for the UK pound. And passable with American rates. But the kicker is the shipping charges... Almost as expensive as the product...
@@matthewbeale8570 _cries in turkish_
I've been eyeing these up for ages, just waiting on them to release the clutch as I have no hand clutches. Thanks for the review looking forward to it!
Hey, just a few more weeks😊
@@najamsimtec Ordered a week ago;)
Very nice Review/Tutorial Dan :) I just ordered them coming from basic Fanatec (without Loadcell). I Guess I need a good Baseplate for them.
Anyway thanks for the gread Video :)
Hi, so what baseplate did you buy for them ?
those look like the next addition to my rig.. i hope they make a clutch soon
I love it, already have a fanatec v3 pedals and drive behind my desk, but if I had a simrig and needed pedals, I would go for this it's probably superior to the v3's.
I am so torn between these and Sim Jack Pros. Anyone got any experience with both or suggestions?
What pedals do you think these could compete with? How do they compare to Heusinveld Sprints since they both use Elastomerers?
Got the pedals and assembled them within 1,5 hour without any bigger issues. Feels very solid and will do the first test in a near time. These replaces modded G29 pedals so I guess it will be big difference…..
How are they?
Did my first hours with them yesterday and what a difference it was compared with the G29 pedals (not so surprised though…). Much more controlled braking and balance of the throttle with nice resistance. The only thing I would like to see improved, is the cabeling to the motherboard which could be more robust with some cover protection and standard connector sinne the current cables are very thin and easy to damage by mistake. But overall, I’m very satisfied with them and can highly recommend them.
Are you making a Video to Show how to attach the Damper an the transducer would be nice For us
Thanks for review Dan. Can you affiliate link to the US amazon. I’ll be getting the damper kit Abd would like to get you compensated.
Thank You. But should be the transducer really that big? Won't smaller "Bodyshakers", like 10-25W models, do the job too? I have in my mind to use 4-6 of them at least one for the brake and 4 on the four corners of my seat inside a cheap garden chair pad.
Hi Dan, I also reviewed them last week on my channel and I was amazed, I fully share your considerations
Right? Crazy value in these, really amazing stuff!
@@DanSuzuki aesthetically it is certainly not the best but actually in terms of sensations the driving level is on a par with really much more expensive products ... it is a simple but truly effective product
🙏🏻
@@najamsimtec any plans for offering shipping to USA in the future?
@@najamsimtec We need shipping for this to the US!!!
Seems like a great deal.
I’d have to first see how they are after 6 months to a year. But they look really good
These (with the add ons in the vid) vs. Csl elite v2 pedals, which one would you pick (ignore the clutch) ?
Hi Dan, i´m using a Playseat Challenge with a T300 RS GT atm and want LC pedals and they are at the price i want to pay, would you recommend them using with a playseat?
I might need a pedal plate, thats the part im missing in your video :D
Hmmm... I seen them before. I may have to take them up on a set.
i used old ps3 shaker motors for abs and trc on the pedals of my very diy sim rig. lol
Thanks for the review! I am in the market for a sim rig incl. pedals and wheel. After your video, I placed an order!
Regarding the addons: Did you use the 8Ohm or 16Ohm version for the transducer?
it doesn't matter tbh, you will run them at relatively low volume ... but in theory 8 ohm should be easier to drive
Hey, you would be coupling this with an amp, there are 50-100w amps for 20€-30€. Do check what those are rated for, with the 8 ohm one you should be fine.
@@najamsimtec Thanks for the input. I saw the amp in Dan's affiliate links. I will start off without the addons, but will probably get them at a later point.
Looking forward to trying the pedals!
Hi, thank you for this video. I’m undertaking a pretty ambitious project to build my first ever rig as a present for my aging father. His doctor has recommended that he take up any hobby to improve his life satisfaction and reduce migraines. He used to race cars, and has loved cars all his life, but hated the one time he ever tried a racing game because “it didn’t feel real.” Ofc, that was with plastic PS1 crap back on like Grand Tourismo 2 or 3.
Anyway. Is there any chance you could do a video on installing the damper and transducer? Or even a written guide?
I’ve never so much as held a set modern pedals, but after a few hundred hours of videos and forums I think the set up you are showing here is my best bet for pedals that feel real enough and that I can afford.
I’m thinking these pedals with your mods, a GT Omega Lite, The 10nm Alpha with the GTS wheel, and a VR set up.
My plan is to have his first drive be in his car (as close as I can, he has a heavily modded 2010 Camaro SS) on the Tail of the Dragon in Assetto Corsa. He’s driven that road hundreds of times irl… I hope it works.
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Thank you for the review, I guess I'll buy these instead of HE Sprints lol I am on a budget. One question: Where do you connect the transducer? Does it need an amplifier?
Yeah the transducer will need a little amp, I have two of these transducers, one on the pedal like this and the other under my bucket seat, one of the best upgrades for value. look up sinilink amplifier, they work like an external USB soundcard/amp then you can control it with simhub
@@JaredPaul01 ja saw also Budget amp For around 10euros the are Not looking Grad without a Case but so they also Work?
I'm considering getting an upgrade on my Fanatec CSL Loadcell Pedals. Let's see what this is all about then!
Where they better ?
Die Frage ist wie installier ich den Damper und transducer als laie
Do you need extra hardware to mount the damper to the brake?
Have you tested the TLCMs before? And if yes, would you consider the Najam Simtec pedals an upgrade or are they on the same level?
Have the same question since Race Beyond Matter released his video. Quite happy with my TLCM but they lack a good throttle, brake is sometimes flimsy/harder to modulate.
Die Kabel sind zu kurz, hätte gerne mehr Abstand zwischen Gas und Bremse. Gibt's die Möglichkeit die Kabel vom Gas zu verlängern?
Compared to V3:s?
Hi, ich frage auch einfach mal auf Deutsch ;).
Ich bin absoluter Laie, deswegen pls don't judge xD.
Wie anfällig sind die Pedale durch die Elektronik an der Seite und die dünnen Kabel?
Grüße :D
Do you prefer the puck transducer on the pedal, or a larger one like the Dayton bst-1 under the pedal base?
On the pedal arm is much better imo
Where is the bottom plate ? Where can i order ?
Sind die vom dd gt nicht noch billiger?
I understand of course you cant beat practice. However! Would you say VRS vs. Fanatec V2 pedals both set at 40kg of brake force, do you think you would still be faster with the VRS and by how much? I know, hard to quantify.
I highly doubt there would be a difference in laptime
Cammus has a 3 pedal for $240...check them out.
Did they stop selling these? They aren't in their Store anymore only the S120 pedals are for sale.
Hey, coming from TCLM, would anyone recommend to switch to this ones? ty for the review Dan !
Interested as I'm in a same boat lol.
Can you give a quick note as to whether or not these would be better than the Fanatec V3’s?
I'm not a big fan of the V3s and would definitely pick these over the V3s.
Awesome, thank you! I didn’t like my V3’s that much either.
In terms of performance, where would you put this against well known brands? Fanatec v3s, VRS?
It performs just as well as the best out there. In the end all pedals do the same thing, measure whatever pressure you put on that pedal face. Everything else is just personal preference, a matter of finetuning and how much you want to spend to get good looks and build quality.
These look like the best value for money and the "go to" option for people setting up their first sim rig
Dan, are you going to run the add-ons on your VRS pedals?
No
@@DanSuzuki *Great Video Dan, thanks for that! :) May I ask why you are not running at least the bass shaker on the VRS?
Wonder if they would be a upgrade from Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals?
That's a hard question. I had csl pedals and bought the thrustmaster tlcm and was blown away. Those are really good pedals. Don't look nice but perform very well. I have then upgraded to heusinkveld pro pedals. Those feel better but i really don't think that laptimes improved. Little nicer on the foot, especially the throttle, but pacewise im not sure the pedals will improve. But the tlcm were a big improvement on laptimes over the csl pedals i had before.
@@azamat19 base CSL or load cell CSL?
I would expect the TLCM to perform much better than the base CSL but a bit surprised if significantly better than the load cell upgrade.
@@lewisgordon1490 i had the base csl and preordered the lc kit. While i was waiting for the lc i bought the tlcm just to test them and liked them so much, that i didn't even try the csl lc. Just sold them. I think today i would have kept the tlcm and not bought the heusinkveld pedals (though i love them very much and don't regret thepurchase).
T-LCM:s are not good at all. Can’t get consistent with those. Tried all, even polymers. Best decision was to sell them. Now on V3:s with soft foam switched to softest polymer and they are good but setting up and switching polymers was a hassle. The design is OLD and cumbersome but work reasonably. Would imagine from the review that these are better.
Heii Dan ich mach's jetzt Mal auf Deutsch unzwar wenn ich auf der Website bin und die Pedalen kaufen möchte kann ich leider keinerlei Optionen für den Dämpfer oder auch die *bezüglich des eingreifens des ABS oder des blockieren der Räder finden ich hatte es so verstanden das ich diese ADD Ons mit auf der Seite erwerben kann ..... Kannst du mir da bitte weiterhelfen,vielen Dank im Voraus *Haptic feedback
Nein, das sind keine mods vom Hersteller. Links sind in der Beschreibung
I purchased them, I hope I find a good set of pedals. I come from Fanatec CSL LC and I was unhappy with the accelerator and witht the LC dumbness. I will report my personal experience once I get them. I have a question about the add ons: what info do you passthrough to the transducer? Only ABS? Thanks...
Did you tested the Pedals a comparison betweet this and the fanatec would be nice
@@abcc7404 I have yet to get them. I didn't like the Fanatec CSL LC at all. Embarassing unadjustable accelerator, dumb monostage LC brake pedal. If I had finances I'd buy VRS. I figured watching different reviews, they were the pedals I was looking for. I have a sense I'm not an elastometer guy...as soon as I get these I will post my impression.
@@zzmadd so you are waiting For the najam yeah i also have the csl dd Loadcell they are to hard with No travel Like a brick only think about the najam i worries about are the small Pedal plates because I have big feets
@@abcc7404 believe it or not, the best time I did with the Fanatec CSL LC where last year when I removed 2 elastometer and put 2 plastic ring as deep. Even harder, even less travel...I think 4 of those identical elastometer make such a dull feeling...Anyway I've been told by Najam he should ship them very soon, enf of the week or next...Then a bit of time to adjust and will know if I can feel something better...Even Boosted media didn't review the CSL
@@zzmadd and how are the Pedals compared to your csl
First? I like posting comments in good videos.
Where can i find the mounting brakets for the transducers?
There aren’t any needed - just screw it to the profile
These look very good for the price. I would consider them if not for my fanatec csl elite v2s which I’m very happy with. For the price I think the improved aesthetics of the v2s as well as additional adjustment on the brake with 9 elastomers, preload spring improving feel, no potential for elastomer binding with spacers between and of course the addition of a clutch pedal make the additional $115 worth the upgrade if you can afford it. Just no adjustment on the throttle unfortunately but it doesn’t bother me as in my opinion you get used to whatever throttle pedal you use and adjust accordingly. The brake is what matters and the v2s brake pedal is regarded as the best for the price.
I have the k2s and am More than happy with dem
Can you maybe compare them with other Pedals iam between These and the csl dd loadcell
@@abcc7404 i had old v2s before and the k2s feel 10 times better
@@olivierfritzen2749 thanks For fast answer yeah iam between These K2 or the csl dd Loadcell about the Same price
They should try a wheel next😅
Should to a wheel?
I been trying these pedals for 3 days and they worked pretty well in AC and iRacing but they’ve got some compatibility issue on forza horizon 5 and f1 22. My fps dropped to 20-30 and I had glitched ffb. I don’t think there’s gonna be a solution because the company is just too small and it’s gonna be hard.
No shipping to America 😢
We have added shipping to the US.
First
No clutch, no buy.
They will soon, that´s a break for me too, i want all 3 pedals so i´m waiting for the availability of the clutch.
@@kurok1tenshi If you want a clutch, look at the Sim Jack PRO pedals. They are fantastic when combined with some Heusinkveld Sprint Elastomers, which you can purchase separately
Really? Pedal arms made out of 80/20 and your calling them high end? 😂
Yes :) please explain how a pedal arm out of 80/20 should perform worse than a pedal arm that is laser cut out of another material?
The brake pedal would need forces much higher that 100kg to show signs of flex so it's perfectly strong enough for 90kg
Frex GP use alu profile in their pedals sets. I think the point is 'high end' in terms of fidelity and feel. I think a lot manufacturers waste money making them look as flashy as possible to charge a premium price, which most people can't afford. You build this kit yourself which saves money, meaning you could easily swap out or replace this part for a different length, and a lot more potential adjustment. For example, adding a damper to the side without needing to drill anything. Equally, you could add your own custom pedal arms, or use a real motorsport pedal assembly.