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Johnny vs. SaGa SCARLET GRACE: AMBITIONS | Experiences of a Newbie
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In today's episode, well, it's not your traditional Versus Video! It's time to sit back and relax with review podcast as I discuss my first experience with SaGa Scarlet Grace Ambitions.
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"This game isn't going anywhere for a while."
**Pan across the pit of mobile games shut down after roughly a year**
Okay, I believe you.
"If you abuse the Power of Waking, there's no turning back."
"Okay, I believe you."
It’s pretty good and one of the least p2w systems. It has energy but they throw so many f fucking energy potions at you its nuts. I have over 1000 and i only played for a week. I never run out of energy.
@@jprec5174 Yeah compared to a lot of Gachas, RS R;S is stupid generous.
I know this comment is well over a year old but the only reason I'm watching this video right now is because I just got an ad for re universe and it reminded me of this, so I guess it did stick around
@@EisenSMTdang. I was looking into saga scarlet grace and must've missed this review when he first released it. Re:Universe still going. Wild.
I'm gonna recycle a Palpatine quote here:
"A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one."
Krypton Avenger
When did he say that? I don’t remember that line in the movies?
@@rosanirodrigues557 He said it in the Phantom Menace. I'll post a link:
th-cam.com/video/ca-e5MrVbVU/w-d-xo.html
Krypton Avenger
Thank You 🙏
I love democracy
Man, Crash bandicoot really went weird after twinsanity.
@Ben McConnell he may do crash 4 when it comes out or he may to do other crash games before that
@Ben McConnell he's done with crash for awhile.
That's the shortest marathon he's ever done
@@kimaster5893 Perhaps Kirby and Resident Evil burned him out.
@@randomduck8679 probably, I don't expect him to do a regular marathon for awhile.
NVM he's still doing crash
Sponsored by Square Enix?
My boy has finally made it.
He was sponsored by square enix a few years back too for final fantasy 14. He even mentions it in this video.
He's been sponsored by devs before iirc
Hell I glad to see square pushing the saga series over here west, gives me hope that they’ll port and update some of there other games like Live A Live
he’s been sponsored by capcom a couple times too. Which i believe is a bigger company, however you can correct me if im wrong
"Unlimited Saga was my first Saga game."
Oh, Johnny. I'm so sorry.
I know, right? It's like having Apollo Justice as your first Ace Attorney game, or Mega Man and Bass as your first Mega Man game, except multiplied by 1000. I can't fathom why his roommate would introduce him to it, unless he was trying to show Johnny the pain that he felt while playing the game. It's the only SaGa game that I absolutely refuse to play, I watched my brother play it for an hour or so and then read up on it, and it just seems miserable from beginning to end.
Still my favorite SaGa game but its a super rough intro to the franchise
@@SomniaCE I always respect people that enjoy Unlimited Saga, since while I may not think the game is very good, there's like barely any fans of it. I feel like you have to be on Kawazu's wavelength or something and share a similar mindset with him to really appreciate it, which I just don't have.
@@Jordan3DS I love Unlimited myself, but i have gone to GREAT lengths to illustrate how downright weird it is for people who listen to me rant and rave about how awesome SaGa is lol. It's like, Unlimited is to the rest of SaGa as what SaGa is to JRPGs in general.
I don't blame anyone who can't get into it.
@@SomniaCE Second favorite here
I just think its way better than the romancing SaGa snes games
I love the way progression works in this one or how it has a free scenario system like SaGa frontier with really different stories or even the tabletop elements
Its so freaking addictive
I’m the author of the current FAQs for this game on GameFAQS. This has been a yearlong project-I was stunned that there were no English FAQs for this game.
So between scouring Japanese wikis and a total of 18 playthroughs (at least 800 hours), I was hell bent on getting English guides out there!
Of course I start with the two Protagonists with the most number of branching paths (Urpina and Balmaint) as they really needed the walkthroughs. Took freaking nine months for those two alone. Taria and Leonard shouldn’t take anywhere nearly as long to get FAQs out for.
Thanks mate
That is dedication. I think IGN hires freelance guide and wiki writers if you want to get paid for your work.
Doin god's work
Not all heroes wear capes.
Thanks for doing that!
"bad luck can break battles fast"
me: ah smt we meet again
Nothin AGI cant fix! Right?......right?
It can be pretty painful when you try to get a paralyzation and you attempt it three turns in a row with no avail. Then your reattempt you do it on your first or second turn, but that is rolling with the punches.
One more turn rejected...
Oh yeah SaGa that thing I always hear exists and never know anything else about.
Preach
You mean that Funneh Book with Goat People?
Oh yeah SaGa that thing I never heard existed
Yeah basically
I didn't even know that much.
4:18 "I would start with the original game, which I actually have a copy of!" shows remake of the fourth game.
LMFAO.
Okay, not gonna lie, this time i've been caught off guard.
0:58 “Ms ninja here can rock a knife and a kunai at the same time.”
Judging by that image, definitely looks like she can.
What's even more hilarious is that she uses neither in-game. She uses martial arts lmao
"Play at your own pace though. This game isn't going anywhere for a while."
Star Ocean Anamnesis would like to have a word with you. No way I'm playing another Square Enix mobile game again.
This isn't a gacha game though......
Then play it on PS4, Switch, or PC/Steam.
So glad you enjoyed your time with SaGa Scarlet Grace! SaGa in general is a wonderful series, and I'm glad we're finally being included in it here in the west. (Also, I love Unlimited Saga but it definitely should not be anyone's first SaGa game lol)
I'm so glad you're looking into the SaGa series. It's really my favorite RPG series. They typically give the player some freedom, and the battle system is really a lot of fun. So much so that I often find my self actually wanting to fight random battles instead of running away from them. That to me is one of the best indicators of a good turn based RPG.
How would you rank the games, personally?
@@Jordan3DS 1) Romancing Saga 3
2) Romancing Saga: Minstrel Song
3) SaGa 3 (DS remake)
4) Saga: Scarlet Grace
5) Saga Frontier 2
6) Saga Frontier
7) Unlimited Saga
8) Romancing Saga 2
9) Saga 2
10) Saga 1
...I feel like Octopath Traveler should also be a part of this, as it really is an unofficial Saga game. I'd put that between Minstrel Song and Saga 3.
@@chadgray5872 Nice list! Would you consider Alliance Alive a sort of "unofficial" SaGa game as well? It takes heavy inspiration from the series, although not to the point of Octopath Traveller.
For me, I would probably say
1. Octopath Traveller
2. Romancing SaGa 3 (SNES)
3. Romancing SaGa (SNES)
4. SaGa Frontier II
5. Romancing SaGa 2 (SNES)
6. SaGa Frontier
7. SaGa 2 (Game Boy)
8. SaGa (Wonderswan Color)
In terms of the games I've beaten, at least. The () denotes the console I beat each game on.
Oh man, SaGa: Scarlet Grace is fantastic. I'm curious to see how you enjoyed it! (Disclosure: I gave the game a 10/10 on RPG Site)
Edit: The final boss really is a test of everything you know about the battle system, took me hours to kill him lmao. As for your other complaints (lack of exploration, simplicity in the worldbuilding, etc), I think you must've missed stuff like Production. There's an entire gameplay mechanic where you can facilitate trade between different regions, and doing so will give you more backstory about the world, and how these regions tie into it. Even beyond that though, speaking to characters in each region tells you much more about an area's history, which not only explains how they tie into the world as a whole, but tends to give you clues about the (many) puzzles tied to the location.
That's the biggest thing - at a glance, Scarlet Grace feels much more linear, but when you get down to it, each region is like a puzzle, and there's so many different things that you can find in them. Optional boss fights, side characters, weapons, etc. Even if you accomplish something one way, you can be rest assured that there was at least 2 other ways of handling something, often with a vastly different result, and a different payout.
100% the game isn't for everyone, but between the fantastic battle system, the excellent soundtrack, and the surprising flexibility for how you can tackle each playthrough - it's no surprise that for the folks the game clicks with, it *really* clicks.
I've beaten every SaGa game besides SaGa 3, Unlimited Saga, and Scarlet Grace (waiting for a sale), but I will say that Scarlet Grace's art style is kind of limiting in my eyes. The character models are all really cheaply made with ugly eyes and no facial expressions, so they just look like dolls. The tech animations are also a major downgrade compared to the previous games in the series. I do think it's cool that Kenji Ito came back to compose the games after not working on SaGa Frontier II and Unlimited Saga, though! I feel like Kawazu was begging Square to let him make a new SaGa game for years, but the stigma of Unlimited Saga kept them from greenlighting it until finally deciding to let him make it for a very, VERY low budget. Also, fun fact, there was a Square developed RPG parody series that ran from the NES to the PS2, and in the PS2 game, the final boss' ultimate attack is called "Unlimited Saga", and Kawazu and another man stumble from the background completely drunk and vomit all over your team, I'm not joking. Let's hope that Scarlet Grace marks a return of the series, and that we'll see a higher budget console game on PS5 or Switch in the coming years!
Jordan3D
Do you know the name of the parody game you speak of?
@@flynnssmirk3086 Yeah, it's called "Hanjuku Hero", which means "Half Boiled Hero". Here's a video of what I'm talking about th-cam.com/video/imoJ14uJPoU/w-d-xo.html . I think the scariest thing is that some of the games were composed by Uematsu himself. The moment happens at around 1:53, by the way.
Jordan3D I did heard of Hanjuku Hero and the series parodying Square Enix’s games. I just wanted to make sure. And wow, I wasn’t expecting that.
I also heard the snes Hanjuku Hero game got a mobile phone port exclusive to Japan, of course. It parodied the FFIV’s Four Fiends for example.
@@flynnssmirk3086 That's pretty hilarious, it's so bizarre to think that Square Enix had an entire series parodying themselves! Reminds of of Konami's "Parodius" franchise, I guess parody games were pretty popular back in the day.
Hearing Johnny’s laugh at 5:01 added five years onto my lifespan
"I'll start with the first SaGa game"
> Holds up Romancing SaGa remake
Me, and old SaGa Fan: *Ha ha ha ha ha*
I mean, he'll be fine as long as he doesn't start with Grey, right?
It is kind of odd, you'd think that he would have done a bit more research on the series before making the video. He kept calling the entire franchise "Romancing SaGa" as well, probably due to the mobile game. It's not like it'd take very long, literally a 30 second glance at the wikipedia page fixes every bit of misinformation.
@@Jordan3DS I think he may have been considering Romancing SaGa its own subseries or something.. He did mention the first three games, and how they were released over here with their names changed to FFL.
@@chocobunneh He also mentioned at one point that the series didn't start coming out over here under its own name until the PS2, but he completely ignored the SaGa Frontier games on PS1 that both released in the west. I just attribute it to a low amount of research and knowledge about the series on his part. It's not a review he really chose to do but moreso one that he was forced to for $$$, so he didn't really bring the same passion to it as he does his other reviews.
Huh, definitely wasn't expecting this.
Finally a sponsorship where the person actually cares about talking about the game.
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Thanks for shining some light into the SaGa series!
For those interested by the series, remember that the original Gameboy trilogy will drop on Switch on December 15th for about 20$!
I'd like to add that Romancing SaGa 3 is on Steam for $29, but it drops to pretty cheap on sales. The SNES version also has a complete fan translation. It's the best game in the entire SaGa series, and I think it'd be a great starting point for people!
@@Jordan3DS Romancing SaGa 3 piqued my interest on its aesthetic, but are these games really that hard? I mean, I've played SMT before, and like Johnny said, I'm more accustomed to "hit the weakness to win" kind of gameplay. I may check this series out regardless, but I do want to know what the hell I'm getting into XD
@@analogbrayn I haven't played Scarlet Grace (waiting for a sale) so I can't speak for it, but the games really aren't as hard as their reputation. The original SaGa Game Boy games are pretty easy, Romancing SaGa 1 is easy, Romancing SaGa 2 is pretty tough, Romancing SaGa 3 is really easy, SaGa Frontier is pretty easy if you know what you're doing, and SaGa Frontier II is a decent difficulty. Basically, the games are a LOT easier than SMT. You can save anytime you want in every game, and Romancing SaGa 2, 3, and SaGa Frontier refill your HP to max after every battle. Even if you struggle with 3, there's a spot in the game where you can get your team to grind for you to get you more EXP/weapon levels if you need it. If you do play it, though, I highly recommend using this guide ( romancing-saga-3.blogspot.com/p/rs3-game.html ), it has all of the information that you could ever need to know about the game, plus maps for every dungeon. The gameplay is based around what are called "techs", which are basically skills. Depending on certain factors like what weapon type you're using, what level the enemy is, what tech you use, and so forth, you can spark (unlock) more powerful techs. There's resources telling you exactly how to spark techs, so it's pretty simple. Honestly, though, 3 is so easy that you can spam normal attacks every battle and come out on top. 3 also has a Life Point system where each time a character dies, they lose 1 LP, and if they run out, then they don't come back until you sleep at an inn. So basically, just heal every time you go to town and the LP system basically doesn't exist.
@@analogbrayn Also, RS3 has a really nice system where once you spark a tech and use it enough times, the character "masters" it and then you can put it on anyone that you want. Pro tip: Have a martial artist or two on your team, like Ellen. Martial arts are ungodly broken in 3 for some reason. I didn't use any, but my brother did, and Ellen hit 9999 damage on the final boss every turn (for comparison, my characters did around 3000). With the ability to give techs to other characters, you can spark the most powerful techs in the game and then give them to other members of your party to destroy. If you want to spark all of the most powerful techs early on, there's an enemy called "Ashura" in one of the dungeons that can spark everything. Hope this helps!
I love this game and SaGa is my favorite jrpg series. This was a great video. This game is a real hidden gem.
How tf did I miss Johnnys review for this? One of my favorite game series
This is a massive pleasant surprise! I'm a HUGE SaGa fanboy and Scarlet Grace is one of my favorites
I’d recommend trying out Romancing SaGa 2, that game is *incredibly* ambitious, and I don’t think we’ve seen anyone do anything similar with their story, despite modern technology being more suited to telling that kind of story then the SNES.
It's incredibly innovative and ambitious in a lot of ways, but I feel that the gameplay falls flat compared to the other games. Normal battles and bosses are just way too difficult a lot of the time, even when your team is as strong as it can possibly be. Even generic enemies have too much HP and can spam high damage attacks that hit your whole party, in a game where healing spells are single target. If the gameplay wasn't so brutal, then I would definitely love it a lot more, but as it stands it's a game where everything but the gameplay is absolutely incredible.
If Johnny is going on an RPG binge, I really hope he tries out SMT/Persona.
He said on twitter he'll do that at 500k subscribers if I'm right
That's like ~30 years worth of games there! It's going to take quite a while to even go through just the most popular ones, much less the whole franchise. If he does, I just hope he doesn't make the mistake of starting with Strange Journey like I did (I did finish P3 & P4 before that though, but still...)
As someone who just poured 124 hours into P5R, and looking forward to SMT5, I’d be for this.
I hope he talks about the Mario and Luigi series!
@@MrPillz1 he also said he’d do Kirby if a certain Tweet got enough likes but did it anyways even though the tweet never reached the requested milestone.
What do you know, I am playing Scarlet Grace right now as well. Love the battle system and how impactful status effects are. One of the bosses I got them to the point in which I almost stun locked them between using the skills Heaven and Earth along with Sweep so they couldn't use their devastating attacks. The Scarlet Fiends were pretty nasty.
Seems to be a great game to play for an hour or two, but I agree that it can feel a little repetitive due to how battle focused it was. I don't think it was due to the Vitas hardware though, but an intentional design decision such as the stripped down board game look of Unlimited Saga was intentional response to RPGs at the time.
Ah, it suffers from the "Tales of" problem, least with older games in the series: boot up the game, twelve side quests just opened up. Complete five minutes of the Prologue, lose access to nine of those twelve. Better get 'em while you can!
I love that in unscripted content johnny laughs a lot. It gets to me
Didn't expect johnny talk about anything related to saga series. MIND BLOWN
I’m sure if someone gives him money he will check the game out.
Johnny going into SaGa? Now I've seen everything. Granted all I know of SaGa is Red's final battle theme from an old YTP back in the day, but still.
Really loved the style of this video Johnny. Super chill, super fun :) Good shit.
24:15 The ??? means they're using what the game calls a "Conditional", they'll either be covering another enemy, preparing a counter, or an interrupt.
Interrupts trip depending on whether the attacks property is slash, blunt, or piercing damage. See the icon at 24:21? It interrupt your blunt attack. But if you were to use slashing or piercing attacks it would not interrupt you.
It's kind of trial and error really, go in to a fight, see what conditionals an enemy can use and either adapt to them on the fly if you can or do so next attempt if you can't.
I should also mention that when I first played the game I misunderstood this mechanic in the exact same way, lol
Great video as always, dude! These make my day every time. Here’s hoping you cover Chrono Trigger during your RPG binge, Johnny!
To be honest I just play the games for the music, best soundtracks for any game series I've ever heard.
You have clearly never played an smt game then.
@@skuli5526 better than smt bro
This is one of the few times I may actually check out something an add shows me.
As soon as he started talking about his first SaGa game and how he didn't like it, I knew he was talking about Unlimited SaGa
I was not expecting this. I love this game so much, and glad to see it's getting some attention!
What do you like about it? I can't stand it. Its like they took the worst parts of Unlimited and maybe the combat worse
@@Bawzton Great soundtrack, plenty to explore & experiment with, and a difficult but fun battle system. Nothing feels more satisfying than seeing a strategy you employ go perfectly.
This channel should be so much more successful than it is. I love your videos so much.
I recently got into the SaGa series myself, starting with Romancing SaGa 3. It'd be neat to see what Johnny thinks of that one. It looks like Final Fantasy 6, but it's open world more or less and is really about the world and how you interact with it more than it is about characters, which seems to be the case here as well. I was thinking of getting Romancing SaGa 2 after I finish 3, but I may give this one a go instead. Combat looks even more engaging than in RS3 to me, which is pretty exciting!
Never heard of this , so this should be an interesting watch.
The SaGa series is incredibly beloved in Japan (to the point that covers of the music on TH-cam amass millions of views), but since we didn't get the Romancing SaGa games on SNES over here, a fanbase for the franchise couldn't really get a chance to develop, even with the SaGa Frontier games on PS1. You should buy Romancing SaGa 3 whenever it's on sale on Steam, PS4, or Switch, it's incredible!
@@Jordan3DS The mobile port is surprisingly solid too.
@@SilverHairedFreak25 Agreed, Romancing SaGa 2 and 3 are possibly the only good mobile ports ever made. I think RS2 is best played on Mobile/Steam, but RS3 is definitely best on SNES, since the spritework looks much better than the new backgrounds.
TH-cam really doesn’t want me to be subscribed you you. I’ve subscribed you twice and I just subscribed again.
2:08 Ah yes, Noel. One of the Seven Heroes. Hopefully you eventually get around to Romancing SaGa 2 and 3. Those are quite good.
I just got it on Switch for Christmas. I like it. Started with Urpina.
I'm with you there Johnny with having such low IQ strategies when it comes to RPG battles.
But a Square Enix sponsorship? What kind of big brain play did you make to achieve that?
i like to say i'm big brain 1000 IQ with RPG battles then proceed to throw my copy of SMT4 out my 3DS and never finish the tutorial-
Never thought I'd hear Johnny talk about the Sister series to Final Fantasy.
Character graphics are simple, but enemies, bosses and strong move animations are over the top.
The soundtrack is ambiguous and hard to forget. Romancing Saga is a "craft your own story", you trigger side quests by talking to others. Along with a FF2 way of leveling up. Where using moves, powers them up and learn moves mid-battle.
Its a series meant to overwhelm because of how ambitious it really is. But highly recommended.
Romancing Saga 2 & 3 are good starts. Preferably 3
Victory or defeat has already been predetermined by the choices you have yet to make 🤔
This is gonna sound sorta funny, but... this really sounds like MY kinda game.
DUDE that is so cool that you got a box of Romancing SaGa stuffs!!!
They have a really nice art and pixel style, I love it...
Yeah, the SaGa series has some of the best artwork I've ever seen in a game, it has a unique style while also looking amazing in its own right. I believe the artist paints all of her work, which is the reason it looks so interesting.
@@Jordan3DS I seriously love that she paints her works, it looks so lovely! Her art style is just so majestic...
“Use electricity on water enemies” I thought I was the only one who knew that secret
I love how much Johnny has been uploading recently
Literally one of the best battle systems of any JRPG I absolutely love getting my arse beat
Let's get Johnny to do Valkyria chronicles
Never thought I'd see the day a big reviewer would talk about the SaGa series and I never guessed Square Enix would sponsor which I'm very happy about. Though I wish Johnny would review the other remake of the other two games. They're not very long but instead very replayable.
I wonder when you'll play the Tales games.
Wow! Really didn't expect you to cover a SaGa game at all. This is awesome! Much appreciated!
Johnny reviews a SaGa game BEFORE Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest?!? What's the world come to?!? Looking forward to that upcoming marathon, by the way!
It seems like Square Enix is trying their hardest to make SaGa popular in the west, since it's been one of the biggest Japanese franchises for decades. They surprisingly released the mobile game over here and I've seen multiple sponsorship at this point as well. It seems like they're doing the same thing with Dragon Quest, honestly, XI was the first time that they've really marketed the franchise over here, even putting a character in Smash. Let's hope that their efforts pay off and we see some of the two best Japanese franchises gain some traction over here!
> Unlimited Saga was my first SaGa experience.
Man, I feel bad for Johnny. USaga is a very weird game. If you make the effort to learn about the game and view it as a single player Table Top RPG, the game is easier to digest. I don't think anyone will disagree that Unlimited Saga's sound track is really really good.
I'm the one that disagrees, then, I really dislike the OST. I listened to it a couple of weeks ago (because I had no intention of actually playing the game considering how bad it is), and while I liked the first Battle Theme, Victory Theme, and Battle Theme EX, the rest of the soundtrack was just awful noise. It's weird, because Masashi Hamauzu did a pretty great job on SaGa Frontier II (despite most of the OST being motifs on the same theme), but Unlimited Saga is really, REALLY bad. Like, one of the worst RPG OSTs I've ever heard bad.
@@Jordan3DS To call the rest of Unlimited Saga's OST awful noise is underselling the character themes and the amount of variety in the soundtrack, especially the battle themes. Ruby's theme is one of my favorites that captures her gutsy and feminine attitude to conquer the Seven Wonders in her adventures. Ventus' Theme is a somber guitar solo that makes his quest for his brother's death feel like a personal endeavor. Laura's theme is she's swept off into a self-discovering adventure after the death of her would-be husband, Pablo. Each character theme, I argue, fits their character traits and quest very well, even though it is the only theme you will hear on the world map.
As for the battle themes, I can't fault you for not liking them since some of them are used for specific boss encounters. Like, exclusive to this villain or sidequest kind of deal. Not to mention the jarring genre shift towards electronic music (The BT versions are evident of this). Some of my favorites are BT Ver. 3, 4, 6, and 8. I think the game's OST is still good for having a lot of variety in its battle themes and fitting character themes, but we can agree to disagree.
@@soranortthirteen561 Sure, we can agree to disagree. It's good that you got some enjoyment out of the OST, at least, I was just thinking "what am I listening to?" for most of the songs. Not all of them were like that, though, I just found some of them to be kind of bland and generic. I get the same feeling with some of the songs on the FFXIII OST, sometimes I feel like Hamauzu practices freeform jazz in with classical music, it can feel very unstructured and spontaneous.
Unlimited SaGa is what kept me away from the franchise for a solid decade or so. I've now played through Minstrel Song 4 times, Romancing SaGa 2 twice, Romancing SaGa 3 twice. Ended up leaving loving the series. I think I got contacted by the same Square rep, but I'd actually already owned all the games, with Scarlet Grace being the only one I hadn't covered yet.
God damn, I salute you for making it through Romancing SaGa 2 twice, that game is brutal (at least on the SNES version, they made it a lot easier on Steam).
Sounds like every Romancing Saga to be honest. Hard, seemingly random, kinda weak main plot... The series is known for creating new and interesting systems, having excellent music, tons of freedom in how you play the game and a fantastic roster of characters and artwork. So its an experience. Not one that everyone will love as evidenced by its obscurity in the West. I really love it. The battle system in this game is real engaging once you start to understand how it all works. Alot of cool strategies you can employ and you have alot of freedom to create your own flavor of battle tactics. I’m glad they released it in the west. Best Saga game is Saga Frontier IMO
My favorite tactic is monk using provoke attack into a counter in the formation that puts one person out front in center.
Two videos within four days??! Which god do I have to thank for this!!?
not sure if I enjoy this style of reviewing might take a bit of time tp get used to it. I know that the normal JVs isn't going away
Man, I want one those goodie boxes. That sprite stand looks amazing 🥺
I agree, it looks amazing! I'd just switch out Noel for Dantarg, though, and then it'd be perfect
Unlimited SaGa... I had the game as a kid, the RPG nuts I was back then, didn't like it, was too complicated to advance, sold it away.
Years later, found it from a local game shop, bought it cheap just to see if I would get anything out of it now with more experience of complicated RPGs including Disgaea-series.
Holy shit still confusing as ever, haven't picked it up ever since.
I feel like it's not just confusing, it's blatantly anti-player. In every other SaGa game, you can save anywhere you want. In Unlimited SaGa, you can only save in towns, so you can genuinely lose *hours* of grinding or dungeon progress because of the game's awful focus on RPG. Also, you don't actually retain any of the stats you get in a dungeon unless you beat the boss, so if you can't beat it for whatever reason, then you're screwed. I've heard stories like someone being stuck on a space fighting an insanely powerful enemy every single turn that they couldn't escape only for their character to eventually die and lose them hours of progress, it's awful. Kawazu was definitely on something when he made that game.
Counters can be quelled with piercing attacks except when it is thousand blades which can fuck your shit sideways. Also: Buffs, Debuffs and Poison WILL turn the tide and debuffs DO stack. One of the few games where Poison does help a LOT as poison takes a percentage of enemy's max HP per turn, in the best cases you will be dealing hundreds if not a thousand a turn with just Poison damage.
SaGa Scarlet Grace is a game I wanted to try out for the long time after the Romancing SaGa 2 and 3. I really think you should try out Romancing SaGa 2 and 3 down the road eventually.
Agreed. Also, digging the Celes pfp!
I am super excited to see what you think about Romancing Saga on the PS2. Personally, I love it, but it's overwhelming, and difficult. lol
Romancing Saga 3 is my favorite Saga game, so if you ever get to that one, I think you'll really like it.
If there is an RPG (and an MMO) that needs more love, it's Onigiri (yeah the game's called that) so please Johnny when you got the time please take a look at that game too! I'm not in a rush, it can be after this video or even after the Final Fantasy marathon, as long as you review it, I'll be happy!
Didn't expect that, but I sure as hell don't mind.
Just stumbled across the review, wow what an amazing video, you should work for square for their PR dept to demo their games lol, instant subscribe !!! (You can always tell a mechanical review vs a passionate one)
John it's almost Halloween, it's time you finally give us the Silent Hill marathon. It's time we go spooky.
SaGa frontier will forever be my favorite in the whole SaGa series. I FULLY recommend it. I haven't gotten Scarlet Grace yet, still considering it regardless.
I liked SaGa Frontier, but the lack of a final boss and the severe repetition of playing almost the exact same game 7 times in a row really drained me. The world, music, and gameplay are all stellar, I just wish it was more focused on one big quest with a lot of stuff to do rather than 7 mini-quests with almost nothing to do.
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1. Each of the seven characters does have a final boss, so it’s basically 7 final bosses.
2. My advice is to not played all 7 scenarios in one playthrough. When you finish with 1 or 2, play something else when you’re not tired out. That’s what I did with this and Unlimited SaGa.
@@flynnssmirk3086 I mean like an actual final boss, like Octopath Traveller has. My brother and I went in expecting the game to have something like that once we finished every scenario, but instead we find out that the game was unfinished and that the true final boss and Fuse's scenario were both cut from the game. Honestly, if I didn't do every scenario in a row, I don't think I would have come back to the game. I think it's decent, but nothing about it makes me want to replay it at this point.
@@Jordan3DS to each their own. I personally love it. I've played it so many times. The cut content makes me sad, but there's tons of cut content in the game. A lot of it can be accessed still with a game shark. Makes the game noticeably incomplete when you look at it all.
@@Doom_master1122 It just sucks that Square rushed it, I feel like they sort of stopped caring about the SaGa series after Romancing SaGa and just let Kawazu make them because he was a key member of the company or something.
I do think the game would have been a lot stronger if you played the entire game in one playthrough and did each person's scenario as you recruited them (like Octopath Traveller). Making you replay the entire game each time seems like major padding on the dev team's part, turning what could be a 15 hour RPG into at least 30 or 40 hours of repetition.
So the mobile game is called "Romancing SaGa" specifically because it focuses on the visual style and gameplay of the Romancing SaGa games specifically, since the other SaGa games are very different in that regard. It's also supposed to take place in the Romancing SaGa 3 world in the future. It still has a bunch of characters and music from the rest of the series, but it's just that those elements are focused on RS.
I had a lot of fun with this but I've been a fan of the series since then early 90s. I actually played Saga/Final Fantasy Legend II before ever playing a Final Fantasy game. Now if only they'll re-release the Saga Frontier games which are the only games in the franchise released in the US that I have never owned.
Didn't expect johnny to cover a saga game of all things
Also would highly recommend you try out Romancing Saga for the PS2. It's a bit difficult to get into at first, but once you get over the hump it's well worth it.
LISTEN TO THIS MAN!
A big TH-camr reviewing a SaGa game fairly positively? OH HELL YEA
I don't think I've ever seen a big TH-camr review SaGa at all, honestly, unless they were talking about Final Fantasy Legends or something.
Another video in just a few days, you're spoiling us Johnny.
It definitely helps when he doesn't have to write a full script.
And thank goodness, I'm sure some have spammed your email about this by now, but thank goodness also that the Game Boy SaGa games (Final Fantasy Legend trilogy) is soon to come to Switch. I'm personally hyped for such news and for your eventual review of the three...assuming I'm not late and clueless!
Huh, I just got this game myself yesterday. How random.
Its probably the worst in the series:( I love SaGa, but damn is this one bad
Watching this while working on college work.
For those wondering about the kittens I mentioned from the twinsanity video: I SAVED THEM!
Saga games have always been hard
it's like the dark souls of jrpg
they give no helping hand at all
Saga Frontier 1&2 were off the wall weird but charming as well glad to see a video on the Saga series. Also recommend Valkyrie Profile a fantastic “Norse” series.
I'm waiting on the SaGa collection that's coming to Switch in December before I give the series a shot (it has all three of the Game Boy games), but this specific entry already sounds up my alley.
Holy fuck, talk about a game I never thought I'd see a Johnny VS from
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! You are playing the SaGa games!? Oh maaaaaan! ^_^
Just a minor correction, after the game boy games, we actually got SaGa Frontier for Ps1 on the translated side.
Speaking of raising awareness for obscure RPGs, have you ever heard of Super Robot Wars? I would love to see you play/review that franchise.
Omg that box set is amazing. Where can i buy one?
Unlimited SaGa went the same way for me to, I enjoyed other games in the SaGa series and my Dad told me we had Unlimited SaGa in the Attic, fetch it down and I played it as Ventus for about 50 minutes and stopped. I gotta say this though; the game may have bored me right from the off but the Soundtrack is absolutely Divine.
I like johnny doing more not well known rpgs from square. I would recommend the last rememant for a VS video. That game deserves more love than it got when it came out even after the remaster
ngl this made my day, I've been trying to raise more awareness for years and seeing a content creator I like doing the same is cool as shit.
You probably won't see this comment, but it's worth mentioning anyways maybe for peeps reading through the comments. I should note that before you potentially tackle the remake of RS1, Minstrel Song (The European subtitle for the remake) is basically a completely different game from the original RS1. You have the same goal and world, sure, but the mechanics and exploration are entirely different to the point that it's more the FF7 Remake type of Remake (Minus the change in genre.) rather than an FF1 GBA type of remake.
That being said, play the remake instead, the original is FF1NES levels of broken, and while I love that kind of thing to death personally, it's not a good first impression for the Romancing Trilogy as a whole.
SaGa really does feel like an underdog series over here, which is funny considering how big it is in Japan. I'd say Minstrel Song is kind of in the middle of a FFI GBA type remake and a FFVIIR type remake. It has a lot of differences, sure, but it still follows the same structure of Romancing SaGa 1, at least. Final Fantasy VII Remake has nothing to do with FFVII whatsoever, and it's practically a completely different game. I would classify Minstrel Song as a "heavily expanded remake" while FFVII R is a straight up spinoff or reimagining.
@@Jordan3DS Honestly, I just couldn't think of a good comparison. Really all I was saying is just that they're so different that they should be judged on a different metric. lol
To me I find Minstrel Song as like a Greatest Hits remake. Takes mechanics from all the games after it, alters them a bit, and ties it up in a neat package.
@@Einsiety Agreed, it does feel very different from the original, to the point that someone playing each version could get an entirely different opinion on the game. Personally, I always try to play the original version of a game, then play the remake later down the line when I feel like replaying it. I feel that it makes you notice and appreciate the changes and improvements that the remake has made, and also kind of gives you a feeling of nostalgia in a way that you wouldn't have otherwise.
Good sponsorship. Very eager to see Johnny check out SAGA, and I hope he looks at the FF Legend games later on :)
If you’re going on an RPG binge, you should do Skies of Arcadia and Xenoblade Chronicles (1 or 2)
Here how the Saga games go...
They are not Connected!
Saga 1 (Final Fantasy Legend) came on the Gameboy. Best Edition (remake) came on the Wonderswan color, and has been fan-translated.
Saga 2 (Final Fantasy Legend 2) came on the Gameboy. Best Edition (remake) came on the NDS, and has been fan-translated.
Saga 3 (Final Fantasy Legend 3) came on the Gameboy. Best Edition (remake) came on the NDS, and has been fan-translated.
Romancing Saga came out on the SNES, and has been fan-translated. Best Edition (remake) came out on the PS2 in the US, but not in Europe
Romancing Saga 2 came out on the SNES, never fully fan-translated. Best Edition (remaster) came out on most recent digital platforms.
Romancing Saga 3 came out on the SNES, never fully fan-translated. Best Edition (remaster) came out on most recent digital platforms.
Unlimited Saga came out on PS2 on all regions. To bad it sucked.
Saga Scarlet Grace came out on the Vita and was ported later to other platforms.
The rest are browser and mobile crap and you shouldn't bother with them.
Hey dude are you going to review previous saga games as well?
Probably doubtful, since this is just a sponsored video
Johnny, the original intro to your channel... bring it back. Please
as an old school rpg player who has played his fair share of hard rpgs this sounds like my kind of game
I really hope Johnny does more SaGa stuff, like Two and Three. Two has kicked my ass but holds a very special place in my heart due to all the Mario World Hacks that feature its bosses as enemies.
I'll never see Noel the same way again after seeing him with Ludwigs hairdo.
Or Wendy with breasts.
My only experience with the SaGa series is I had a demo disc that came with my original Playstation and it had a trailer/cinematic for SaGa Frontier, and I had no idea what the hell to make of it.
So I just scrolled over to Crash 2 and played Snow Go for the umpteenth time.
Having watched Johnny over the years, I can tell that, when it comes to rpgs, he cares a lot more about stats than strategy (I mean he grinded in Dark Souls. Seriously hardly anyone does that). In games where strategy matters far more than stats, feeling overpowered comes from how much you have figured out the game mechanics, enemy AI, and outsmarting enemies. If you want to know what I'm talking about, go watch Deltre's Fire Emblem Conquest let's play. He plays it on the hardest difficulties which is one of the hardest Fire Emblem experiences you can have and he make it look so easy.
@@Chad_Eldridge it's hard but I think Conquest on lunatic is way, WAY harder. The DS games are really hard too on their hardest difficulties.
I think there's a big difference between requiring strategy and requiring exploits, though. For example, stuff like Conquest or New Mystery of the Emblem on the hardest difficulties doesn't require straight up skill, it only requires knowledge of how you can break the game. I feel like Fire Emblem games on the hardest difficulty always go too far to the point that you physically cannot play them without exploits, and that makes it really boring.
@@Jordan3DS agreement
@@Jordan3DS Well, Awakening lunatic+ is straight up dice rolling, and 3 Houses maddening is just the right difficulty. Not a player luck based gamble, not needing exploits, makes one think.
So nah, not all FE games which have high differences modes rely on exploits.
@@user-un-known Three Houses is better with it, but it's still very unfairly stacked against the player. Giving enemies poison weapons and letting them walk through your units just throws all strategy out the window. Things like letting the Dark Knight move also means that you basically can't beat the game without building Lysithea as early as possible.
I usually don't watch sponsored content, but this was legit enjoyable. Definitely won't play that mobile game, but I like this unscripted style of a less popular game.