I felt like no one knows much about guns and the fact that they think an AR-15 is an automatic weapon speaks volumes to the ignorance of weapons in America.
The Americans aren't the ones who called it an Assault Rifle. Everyone in America who owns one knows it's not an Assault Rifle. People outside of US, or those in America who don't one one or even own a gun at all) , who watch the news thinks it is. The teacher should've corrected the Indian student but he's super left which explains why he didnt.
@@U_y_g_h_u_r_L_i_v_e_s_Matter I’ve always been curious about the term “assault rifle”, where it originated. In my mind a rifle can’t assault anything, the operator does the “assault”.
As a combat vet, former SWAT officer, former executive protection and a gunsmith, these kids need an education on firearms. I carry one on my person everywhere I go. Governments manipulate statistics to lean towards a goal. The UK is a good example. Crime statistics are manipulated. Violent crimes with a weapon are actually more present there than here per person vs population. Most of gun "violence" is suicide in the US.
That is correct! 50% of the 60,000 gun deaths per year in The US, are suicides where no one is harmed but the person with the gun. I believe the statistics show that another 5% are accidental gun deaths, and another 5% are caused by Law Enforcement in the line of duty. So that leaves approx. 24,000 deaths by gun crime (murder) or 0.00007% of the total US population. Out of these 24,000 murders per year (certainly a tragedy) 80% are caused by inner city gangs in major Democrat run cities with very strict gun laws. The statistics are publicly available, and yet, people choose to not do any research on the subject, and just let the "News" tell them what to think.
These are international students. Their countries have very little violent crime, unless you consider gangland violence. What are you going to teach them?
So assault rifle is a category of gun as described as a rifle with selective fire having at least two modes of semi-auto, burst or full auto. Secondly they must be able to shoot accurately at 100 yards or meters. Assault weapon is a purely political term.
@@bullshark3771 - I thought assault was never used as in descriptive term by manufacturers or retailers. Do you evidence that assault is used in the business?
I'm in Ireland and even I was annoyed that most of the peole in that room, particularly the two international students, now believe he has some sort of military machine gun. They were all talking when he mentioned pulling the trigger 30 times and didn't react when the guy called it an assault rifle. Just falsly reinforcing to all the ignorant that AR means Assault Rifle and you just pull the trigger and the gun sprays out bullets.🤔
@@631knm No, the M16 was. They look the same. They both look "scary". If we put the functions and barrel of the M16 in a wooden stock it would still be the more dangerous of the 2.
@@631knmit just looks cool Doesn’t perform much better than several other rifles People are afraid of what they don’t have experience with or understand
Thank you for challenging students to think instead of shutting down discussion and not allowing them to actually converse and think about the harder topics. By the way- we have guns, we hunt, we eat what we harvest, and I’m married to a Game Warden.
I was impressed that the young lady from Korea was interested in shooting!! I’ve seen a few videos where “gun haters” were brought to a gun range and were able to shoot various guns and had their minds changed.
@@afro_snake6458 You've got to be more specific, cuz I don't understand what you're referring to. I mean of course he led the conversation because he's the teacher and that's part of his job. But I'm curious as to what direction you think he was leading the conversation in? I would say he seemed friendlier to the idea of private ownership and use of guns then I probably would have expected. Is that what you mean?
I appreciate how this professor challenges his students. I don't always agree with his conclusions, but his methods of pulling his students into engaging with the subject is amazing, and I appreciate that he doesn't push any of them to take on his perspective, but he also challenges them.
I agree. It at least helps people think for themselves. I don't want everyone to agree with me. I simply want people to be able to critically think and understand a issue or beliefs or situations on their own and not just be spoon fed the same indoctrination
But that is really the whole point of the exercise isn't it? To teach people how to discuss something, to be able to see, understand and consider the opposite point of view rather than stick your fingers in your ears and yell so you can't hear things you dong agree with.
I'd want to add a phrase to your answer ". . . . most of the time . . . ." because sometimes with this topic, he has handled the guy answering like a patsy for an anti gun agenda, but I love his lectures.
I’ll take you even further. Every family should be having this conversation. Schools are not an excuse for parents to leave their kids to figure things out or be parented by schools
Well said!!! It's the very reason why I made sure my then 6yo daughter came to my desk to see it and safely carry it. I wanted to make sure that she felt the gravity of what she was holding in her hands, to metaphorically kill her curiosity so she doesn't wind up a tragic statistic; But most importantly, understand why we have two in our house. @@ivanrivera3387
It was hilarious seeing the shy personality of the South Korean girl to say "Can I shoot some?" 😂 but this was a very interesting and educational format for anyone. I enjoyed watching
Not to be stereotypical, but I've met lots of Asian students who would like to try shooting once, at least since it's fairly uncommon back home for them
I can imagine it is scary growing up in a country where you have absolutely no way of defending yourself. She probably would like to feel the power of self protection. Until you live vulnerable to whims of evil people. It is hard to understand. We can never give up that God given right!
@@michaelrobinson1059 I actually have a in law from Korea that explained to me what it was like growing up in the bad parts of Korea. I guess the ghettos to America. And yeah there is absolutely no tools for self defense and the police couldn't care less on what was happening. Just really sad.
She wasnt serious whatsoever she was sitting there giggling while casually making a joke of the freedoms that save countless lives in this Country every single year. I would love to see her reaction if people were up on that stage doing the same thing only with their Right to speak freely or move freely or vote or practice their religion of choice. Oh then it would have been very different because then it affects them.
If you haven't killed a person, you don't have blood on your hands. If you hunt an animal, especially for food, you will literally have blood on your hands, but you'll also have food on your plate. When times get really bad, you'll be amazed how quickly people's value systems slide.
@@saureconot to mention, if you buy meat from the grocery store or butcher you have just as much blood on your hands as the hunter does. The only difference is that you had a farm kill the animal instead of killing it yourself. In the case of killing people, going to the grocery store is literally just like hiring a hitman to go kill the person for you. It's still murder, even if you didn't directly commit it.
I appreciate what the teacher said about hunting. I don't hunt but I've always understood that respect most hunters have for the animal and how that isn't nearly as bad as what alot of animals go through that are farmed
Ever notice that the same people that will tell you Indigenous People were smarter than we are and understood the Earth so well are completely against those practices? Ironic.
Literally, some of the most enjoyable days of my life have been spent hunting and didn’t even take a shot. Hunting is sooo different from hiking in the woods. You’re in tune with the environment. The thrill of the hunt and what you see when you’re sitting still in the woods for an hour can’t be beat.
@@glasshalffull2930 One of the greatest days of my life (I'm 60) was the last day that I hunted with my dad. We each did an independent sweep of this large stretch of woods after having some morning coffee at his truck. We converged at a pre-arranged meeting point near a swamp and decided to go around the swamp, instead of through it as we headed back to the truck. After about 30 minutes we were on a trail and a beautiful 8-point buck came out of the brush and stood right in front of us. It was almost close enough to touch. I raised my shotgun to my shoulder. Dad did the same about a second later. I sighted-in on the deer and then lowered the shotgun. Dad did the same. The deer looked at us for another couple of seconds and then walked away. Dad asked why I didn't shoot and I replied that we had enough meat in the freezer and didn't need it. My dad and I still talked about it whenever we'd get together for the next 30 years until he passed away. I still go out and shoot targets. But, if I don't need the meat, then I don't even aim at an animal. USMC 1986 - 1994
Had a perfect time to debunk there is no such thing is an "assault" rifle, just like there is no such thing as "assault" (ENTER ANY OBJECT)... an object can't commit an action (assault) on someone without actions of a human. Pretty common sense stuff.
Rifles can be designed for a purpose, such a bolt action high caliber rifle would be a good sniper/precision rifle. A rifle capable of automatic fire with an intermediate cartridge would be an assault rifle. Names of these guns are irrelevant ARMS are protected by the 2nd amendment so even beltfed machineguns should be legal, PERIOD.
@@Robertsmith-un5cu "assault" should never be included on any semi-automatic rifle that is designed to fire one bullet with each trigger pull. The definition of "assault" weapons vary state to state. I'd be more understanding if "assault" were used with fully automatic weapons but even then - just use the term "fully automatic" I'm not being pedantic ... "assault" is used to stoke/install fear into people...
@@Robertsmith-un5cu AR-15 are semi auto meaning you on pull one bullet. You can set it to burst fire I believe which let's a burst of 3 bullets but it will never just spray tons of bullets. AR also stands for ArmaLite the company that made the rifle not Assault Rifle
I've taken about 10 people shooting for their first time. literally every single time they have a blast ("this is SO much fun!") and come away with respect but also better knowledge and less fear. About half have gone on to purchase their own.
I miss the stupidity of Covid! Wear a mask, but rub your mouth all over the mic and touch your mask non-stop to keep it from sagging. Stop your diaper from sagging!
American schools used to regularly teach children about guns in schools. My HS had a rifle club and when I went to school many of the students had guns in the gun racks of their cars, particularly during hunting season. All those guns at school and not a single shooting at the school for DECADES.
@@BettyBettyBoBetty If there was more discussion on this subject there would be better understanding and respect for what it is... The problem is the parents aren't smart enough to teach their own child respect of guns and allow them to play video games that have no concept of accountability for what a gun can do. I was raised around guns, taught how to use them, do NOT EVER POINT THEM AT PEOPLE... NEVER put your finger in the trigger until ready to shoot, be sure if there was more in this subject there would be less violence... But it all starts at home baby taking the time to show and tell right from wrong and take those god damn violent video games away from kids under 15 away from them and for parents to take responsibility to raise their kids like the parents did in the past... All it takes is common sense...
Great give and take from young people on Guns and hunting. I wish there would have been some discussion on the 2nd Amendment. Overall I loved it. An opportunity was missed to inform people about the AR 15. It is NOT an assault rifle. It does not fire faster than any other pistol or semi auto weapon. It fires 1 bullet every time you pull the trigger. The bullet of the AR 15 is one of the smallest used in rifles - .223 (similar to a .22. AR stands for Armalite Rifle. Not Assault Rifle. Still these Q&As are so good. And vital for people to use critical thinking on these issues instead of being fed a narrative.
How come no one corrected the gentleman that an AR15 is not an assault rifle, AR stands for ArmaLite rifle model 15 and os semi automatic. Is it an assault rifle it would have fire mode selection like semi-automatic & automatic or semi-automatic and burst fire.
I honestly wonder if it was clipped out or edited, these kids seem to understand and I would expect them to have corrected it as well. You can tell there is editing on this video.
Good discussion. I really appreciated the professor’s point at the end about small farming/hunting vs factory meat production. It is the very reason I became a hunter and farmer, you appreciate and respect the animal more when you understand that you have taken a life in order to feed yourself and your family, rather than being disconnected by just going to the grocery.
True but he's got to understand that not everyone has the finances and access to aquire his free range eggs and grass fed beef. Corporate farms feed the rest of us.
I would have had to stop and correct the whole "an AR15 is an assault rifle" thing the very first chance I got. The reason that lie is perpetuated is because people who don't have a clue hear it and it's never addressed so they just think it's true. That guy probably didn't intend to lie, he just heard it somewhere and thinks it's true, too.
I like the topic of discussion but I wish the two people who own guns would have set the record straight as far as some of the mischaracterizations about the firearms, such as the guy referring to them as an assault rifle.
@@Riorozenassault rifle/weapon are both politically charged phrases meant to scare the uneducated masses. The words you're looking for is "machine gun", which is illegal for civilians to own unless you pay the ATF bribe money and only buy a machine gun that's older than 1986(correct me on the date if I'm wrong).
This is my new favorite thing to listen to on TH-cam. Your class is amazing, and I'm very grateful that you're sharing it with all of us. Keep up the great work!
An AR-15 is not an assault rifle. AR stands for Armalite Rifle, named after the company who originally made them. Further, an AR-15 can fire as fast as any pistol, it's one bullet per trigger pull. Which is semi-automatic. Pull the trigger once, it fires the bullet, than gets another bullet ready to fire, ready for another trigger pull. Assault rifles have an extremely strict definition. One of the most important defining characteristics is a select switch that allows it to switch between semi-automatic (one bullet per trigger pull) to fully automatic (bullets firing for as long as the trigger is held) or burst (~3 bullets per one trigger pull). The AR can not do any of that. Additionally, most AR-15's are chamber in 5.56(.223) which is among the smallest of common round sizes. The reason why people like them is compared to other rifles (which have much larger rounds, grain and projectile size) they are much easier to shoot (less recoil), but they are also extremely customizable. And because there are so many who have them, it's easy to get parts. In a way they are kinda like the Honda's of the gun world.
These conversations are much more effective than middle ground conversations like those that Jubilee puts out. Students need mentors like this guy to help reframe our conversations to learn from rather than destroy what we don’t understand.
@@3-methylindole730 It's condescending to a degree. There was a bit of an attitude behind it, so that even I suspected and wasn't surprised that the guy was a vegetarian. The entire world has a history of hunting. Only recently have some parts of certain societies decided that meat is immoral.
Excellent topic. Also shows how different those of us whose parents are police feel. Our Law Enforcement parents protect you & have to deal with public criticism & complaining, and that is BS! They have a mandate to enforce the laws of their state. I followed, graduating the Illinois State Police Academy after USAF enlistment & 6 yrs Air National Guard. Firearms, mental accuracy, attention to detail & ability to follow orders are all required in military & law enforcement.
And as a LEO you're supposed to uphold the Constitution including when your superiors, those giving you orders, tell you to do something to someone that violates their constitutional rights and yet most LEO's do not do that they simply say "I was just following orders" and so that Just following orders mentality means as long as you own the person at the top you can make anyone below them do anything.
Im disappointed that these two gun owners do not know the reason to defend the 2nd. They don't know the reasons we have and hold them. Even more surprised that the guy speaking didn't inform the class of why we have them and they are necessary for their freedoms.
I enjoyed this discussion since especially since I do not fit the normal image of a gun owner, being an Asian female. I used to be a competitive shooter and I am an NRA certified shooting instructor. I taught the required firearm safety class in Hawaii, where it is required in order to buy a pistol. Gun control is such a challenging topic because there are so many laws for gun control but there are still so many tragic shootings and crimes committed with firearms. And most of those firearms used were illegally acquired. As an up standing citizen and as a shooter I do not feel more gun laws will make us any safer but I would and do comply with all the laws as a gun owner and will continue to. But do I think more laws will stop gun violence. My answer is no because laws that are not enforced effectively does not have any impact whatsoever especially since most guns used in crimes and/or shootings were not acquired legally. I do believe some kind of mental screening for gun buyers, like the required background check (for purchase of a pistol) is a good idea but implementing that sort of screening takes time and do you just screen a person once? There are so many issues and challenges when it come to firearms but I personally feel it is something that goes beyond more laws, I feel society and how we value life (other people’s lives) is a big part of the issue and to fix that is even a greater challenge.
Laws have gotten so strict to the point of defensive uses being impossible which is probably part of the point. At some point politicians and media wont have to blatantly lie about the number of self defensive uses
Taking India as an example, maybe if they had more appreciation for guns they would not have a caste based society. By the way, India is not as peaceful as they make us to believe through media. They have pretty strong brawls with Pakistan and China. They even have nuclear weapons.
I learnt to appreciate them because of history of 80s and 90s Peru. Terrorists armed to the teeth would arrive at villages, massacre the men, rape the women, and torture the children. The villagers only had machetes. A part of the solution was arming them with rifles. "God made men, Colt made them equal."
I'm always amazed that so many people could be fascinated by the AR but can't be bothered to just read the wikki. I've shot some impressive weapons, the AR is a hopped up .22.
I think gun knowledge should be required teaching in schools..when I was in highschool we had gun clubs and safety courses we could take, think we should bring those back and make them mandatory.
Same. I grew up in Oklahoma. Kids parked in the highschool parking lot with filled gun racks in their trucks. We had a school shooting club. And none of us worried about being shot.
@@LastBastian funny thing is I was in Connecticut at the time...how the times have changed... it's almost as if someone on high decided they wanted the populous to be ignorant on firearms...
Before the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, the term “assault weapon” didn’t exist. The legal definition of a an assault rifle is a intermediate cartridge fired from a fully auto rifle. Then the AWB was introduced, they came up with the term assault weapon, which basically covered all semi auto rifles that used a detachable magazine in existence. The ban grandfathered in the weapons already in existence, so millions stayed in circulation. The gun manufacturers removed a couple of cosmetic features and continued to sell them with the exact same capabilities and rate of fire as the grandfathered guns. When the ban ended, some states kept it going on a state basis, New York and Connecticut being two of them. I bring this up because Adam Lanza used an AR that complied with the federal ban, as well as the state ban that continues to this day. Remember this the next time Joe Biden says he passes that assault weapons ban. It did nothing. I bought my first AR in 1999, right in the middle of the ban. Had milk crates full of legal 30 round magazines.
Laws - Probably the #1 law that is never discussed is the fact that murder is a capital offense. Said another way, you can get legally executed if you break that law. SO adding more laws wouldn't likely be the answer to deter a murderer.
These gentlemen are living my dream! I crave to be asked all sorts of questions related to firearms and laws and how to fix certain problems in society related to guns
FANTASTIC explanation on the life cycle of slaughterhouses. And egg farming! You nailed it professor.... People, (on the whole), don't understand hunting to put food on the table. For some people it would be the cheapest and only way to have meat on the table!
Awesome lecture/discussion the 2 guys that own guns did a great job answering. Props to the teacher for having these discussions. This is the type of teacher the students will remember and appreciate
Excellent conversation. I'm glad to see that there are still places and people that can have respectful debates/conversation so that we may come to understand one another. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
More Conversations between anti-gunners vs pro-gunners need to be had. I recently became pro-gun about 3months ago after being in the middle about it. I dont regret that decision….
I don't hunt,but I read where most wild animals suffer a much more horrible death in the wild.Starvation,or attacked alive by predators,to name two.what I was told by my hunting buddies is to make sure its quick to avoid suffering.
I wish the two guys would have asked the professor to define what an assault rifle is? Also to recite the constitution as it was intended for. Not for hunting but to protect us from a tyrannical government!
I encourage people to actually look up history and realize that our founding fathers were actually looking into and inventing rifles that could in fact fire very quickly. Puckle gun was invented before the constitution was written. There’s another guy Belgian kinda name that had a musket that could shoot like 10 rounds in 30 seconds. Pretty good considering a well trained person could get 1 round off in about 30 seconds. Another fun fact: Lewis and Clark apparently had an air rifle yes that’s correct and it was capable of taking down elk.
AR stands for Armalite Rifle, designated for the company that engineered it, Armalite, not assault rifle. The ARs that civilians can buy are one shot per trigger pull like any pistol and many shotguns and other rifles.
The gentleman that is a vegetarian should research how much death is involved in supplying enough crops for that lifestyle. Anyone that consumes food they have not grown themselves is in one way responsible for the death of other living things. But there is a huge disconnect so most people are not aware of what had to die in order for there food to be put in front of them.
AR15 isn't an 'assault rifle'...that very term is a manipulative con..an AR15 is just an ordinary semi-automatic rifle...no more or less capable of inflicting damage than any other rifle
Some little know-it-all millennial college sheep once asked me that question, “why do you even need a gun”. I simply asked them “Don’t you?” Then she actually raised her voice to the level of a child throwing a hissy fit and creamed “No! absolutely not! I HATE guns”. To which I replied “So, you hate an inanimate object that you know nothing about that has done no harm to you or anyone else on it’s own. And you think that gun will animate itself and just jump up and randomly start killing people. You need to immediately seek mental help”. I don’t think she appreciated the truth, logic and common sense I was laying on her.
Scenario/Hypothetical to chew on: Lets say an active shooter walked through those double doors into that lecture-hall and started opening fire. How many people do you think would die with Option A, vs Option B: A: No guns are allowed on campus, teacher is unarmed / all students are unarmed. B: Guns are allowed on campus, Teacher is armed, students are armed. Think to yourself, DO YOU REALLY THINK that active shooter is going to be alive for more than 4-5 seconds after opening fire with scenario B? Cause with Scenario A, he can shoot at his leisure, and no one is gonna stop him until sirens are outside. Ya, in both scenarios, people die, but there are gonna be FARRRRRRRRRRR less with scenario B.
generally and sadly, most student who are in attendance at this lecture perceive guns from movies and tv shows, like john wick, saving pvt ryan, james bond, or some fantasy "gun" movies. surprisingly, the two people who never shot a gun before who want to go out and shoot never asked a question about what are the most important factors or techniques in shooting. I believe Penn state does have an NCAA women's rifle shooting team, maybe invite them to the lecture and ask them a similar set of questions. Olympic gold medalist in pistol are from South Korea, Japan, and India.
This was an excellent opportunity for these 2 young men to educate all of these people on firearms. Also, I wonder how much of this was to create dialog and how much of this was to satisfy the professors curiosity. All in all it seems like a solid discussion. Props to this professor.
5:13 An AR15 doesn’t shoot bullets any faster than any other semi-automatic firearm. One bullet per each pull on the trigger. Also, it’s not an “assault rifle”. 🤦♀️
not the best information given but it’s a start. Their idea of an AR-15 is far removed. It’s semi automatic just like a handgun. Shoots at the same rate and you can have a magazine that holds 30 rounds in a handgun. I would definitely have invited anyone wanting to learn and experience safely handling and firing a firearm if i was one of these two students.
I don't understand what you mean. What's the difference between a pro-gun individual, and a pro-2A individual? How might their responses or opinions differ?
I'm not a "gun guy" myself. I carried a handgun for about ten years when I was a probation officer in the 80's and early 90's. It remained locked in a box after that for quite a while. (Note: after 30 years in a locked box in the closet - the ammo was still good) I have never been a hunter or into shooting sports. When being trained for my concealed carry permit in 1985, I did fire two shots from a shotgun (to see what it was like) and about 20 in a burst, from a full auto police short barrel rifle. I have not fired a shotgun again, and no other rifles until I built my first AR-15 a few years ago from an 80% lower. (you tube explains all that) Around six years ago, I started paying attention to politics and gun laws and the Constitution and the 2A.... and how hard the left is working to destroy it. So I am building AR-15s for myself and my kids and grandkids (and my kids don't even have boyfriends or girlfriend yet) People do not seriously think of the phrase "a well regulated militia" and its importance. It means a well-functioning, well-equiped, well-skilled group of soldiers. Here is the question I ask people, and I ask YOU this question now: "If YOU and I are suddenly called upon, to band together and form up a "well regulated militia" - do you know what weapons and ammo and equipment (that you are well-skilled with) that you will bring from home, which you will take into battle?" A "gun person" (hunter, sport shooter, concealed carrier) may not have a good answer to that question. A "2A person" will.
Wow, this video really intrigued me. It really makes me regret my time in college how much time I wasted and not applying myself. Its a very interesting conversation now as a fully developed adult in my 30s I wish I could go back and participate in this not only because I am an avid 2A supporter, but because I feel like my opinions have fully developed in my rationale has too.
Many of those countries that do not allow their citizens to have guns have a major common denominator - they are protected by the U.S. Without such protection they would have been taken over by a totalitarian regime decades ago because they did not have the means of defending themselves - guns. The primary purpose of citizen gun ownership is not hunting, but self-defense, but more particularly self-defense against totalitarianism, of which has always been preceded by taking away the right of citizens to own guns.
Well IMO if U.S. protected countries needed to protect them selfs, they would need to spend money on their army. Thus they need to re-allocate funding from somewhere from other government sectors... like utilities... medicine... and would end up like the U.S. Having shit utilities and no accesses to "free" basic and or high-end medical care. But ya guys can thank Trump for stepping up and demanding the NATO countries to pay the U.S. what its owed.
Off my meds for a while and I am moved to tears by this lecture. 34 years I was a vegetarian for political reasons. I support hunting and gun rights. I’m just a bad shot.
I was in elementary school in the 80s and we had firearm safety and hunter safety IN the school. Yea it was after school but it was still in the school, with our rifles and there were still ppl there during the classes. Nothing ever ever happened. Though this was in central Maine. We've always had a firearm culture up here. But once you take that teaching of the whole aspect of owning or possessing a firearm and all that entails you get problems. Which is I think a core of the issue today. one of many. One also being depression meds and mental illness in general. Single parent homes is a core also I suspect. When you look at the school shooter types they have most of the same issues going on like i mentioned. Another is culture. But that's not in the school shooting bracket, that's a city thing. Which we don't see here where I live unless a city person comes here and starts trouble with a gun.
Talking about guns in America is like talking about talking in America. If you think speech is a fundamental right of citizens, you must believe the same about guns!
@hobbso8508 it's an entirely different concept bc the constitution expressely gives government the decision to structure our election process. The Bill of Rights is an acknowledgement of preexisting natural rights and a set of limitations placed on government.
Based Prof. He's not asserting an ideal or philosophy here. He's not ascribing a hierarchy of good or bad, necessarily. He's invoking thoughts about the things we tend to take for granted and/or are ignorant of.
This is my response to how guns are seen in my country We have guns here in Australia and ownership is highly regulated but still obtainable if you abide by the requirements for owning one. Most owners are farmers or people living in rural areas and they are seen and used like a plumber uses a wrench. They are a tool used to do a job so you should use the right tool for the job including sport shooting. That's why appropriate firearms are sold here. After our first and only mass shooting the population voted and agreed to ban and remove all fire arms that are no@t appropriate for the roles civilians need them for. The gun by back scheme was so successful in removing inappropriate firearms we have some of the lowest levels of gun violence in the world. You can still hunt here, you can still go to a range and shoot guns. Australia has several gold medalists in the Olympics for clay shooting. Gun ownership is totally ok as long as the populace respect them for what there intended purpose is while ensuring that regulations are in place for those that would see to do otherwise. (And no our guns don't shoot out spider, snakes, crocodiles sharks or anything like that either just regular bullets 😅)
There is a fundamental difference in mindset between Americans and Australians. We believe that we were endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. We do not believe that other men, or our government, gives us those rights. Because of this, we in turn ha ve certain inherent responsibilities. We are responsible for our own defense. We task the federal and local governments with certain tasks relating to general public safety, but each individual is ultimately responsible for defending themselves from: governments (foreign and domestic), individuals intending to do them harm, and animal predators. Because of this right and responsibility, we have a second amendment in our constitution recognizing our inherent right to keep and bear arms. The "appropriate" use of a firearm is self defense in this regard. Any US citizen who does not recognize this right and responsibility has offloaded their personal responsibility to their government, and has subsequently given away their right to self defense. This is why an anti-gun argument will never be convincing to a truly free person. We are absolutely willing to accept that someone else may give up their freedom and responsibility to others, but we refuse to do the same. It is antithetical to true individual liberty, that a group of others can vote to remove another's rights.
@Paul Rice Yeah. I always pictured Aussies as a tough, freedom loving people. With the way you cucked to the lockdown and the gunlaws, It'll take a lot to gain that respect back. Don't feel bad though, America has turned into a crap show too.
@@hamnchee That is fair. It is also fair to clear up the BS that liars (corporate media) keep saying about AR-15s... In reality they are less lethal than standard hunting rifles which commonly shoot .308 or 30-06. Those bullets and the cartridges and powder volume behind the bullet are 2 to 3 times larger than an AR-15
Negative. AR 15 is semi auto. M16 has a selector switch for either semi auto or three round burst. Specific M16s have selector for fully automatic firing. The average Joe cannot purchase an M16 (unfortunately), unless it is one that the government sold to the cartels.
The 2 gun owning kids are proof that just bc you are a gun owner or like guns, you still can have no clue about the 2nd amendment and government infringement.
@7:19 the student asked about these shootings that happen he says on a daily basis and what can be done about it. Nobody ever points out that it always happens in a gun free zone where a criminal or a mentally unstable gunman feels safe because no law abiding or mentally stable person will be able to protect themselves. Or that millions, yes actually millions of incidents reported and documented across the US that go unpublicized about armed civilians stopping violent crimes. If it bleeds it leads. Stopping a criminal with a weapon by a law abiding American with a weapon goes unnoticed whereas a criminal killing innocents with a weapon makes the front page in the newspaper or is the headline for your local news report on tv. These are the things that need to be brought into the light in these conversations.
S. Korean think having a gun itself is very dangerous damaging very disturbing thing to have it ordinary civilians. Society should feel safe so having gun itself as an ordinary people to own a gun itself is asking for a trouble and danger. Gun should be used by millitary and special police officer for deadly criminal. Law and police are there to protect in civilized world. Not taking law on own hand. Maybe a gun owners gives feeling of power...
Guns are designed to be dangerous. That is what makes them useful. They provide the ability to defend as well as attack, and it is estimated firearms are used millions of times a year in the US in defense. Most of these times the firearm is not actually discharged or shot - just brandishing it is enough to stop/prevent the attack so that no one is injured. America is unique in a number of ways. We have not had a war here since the Civil War when countless soldiers gave their lives to end the abhorrent practice of slavery, often fighting family/friends on the other side. In the world wars, American soldiers benefitted from having extra experience and skill with rifle shooting, compared to soldiers of other countries where using guns was not as much in the culture. Civilian ownership of guns provides a few benefits: 1) helps prevent common street crime 2) helps prevent looting/civil unrest during emergencies 3) helps dissuade other countries from invading 4) helps soldiers be prepared for war and 5) helps dissuade the government from infringing too far on human/civil rights. Ukraine just learned how important readiness is. Perhaps if gun ownership and use would have been a popular, ordinary part of their culture, they 1) would not be such a corrupt country and 2) would not have been invaded by Russia. In WW2 the Nazis decided to leave Switzerland be. While there were a number of reasons for this, one important reason was that every man (and many women) were well-trained and practice riflemen and militiamen. Everyone had guns and ammo and was ready. There is a famous letter exchange where a Nazi commander taunts a Swiss commander telling the Swiss commander he has twice as many troops as him and asking him what would he do if they invaded. The Swiss commander answered "shoot twice." Much of the world has suffered from civil wars, "ethnic cleansing" and other genocide. It is estimated over 200 million civilians (this does NOT include soldiers) were systematically killed by their own governments or factions/nearby governments between the year 1900 and 2000. Guess what - these civilians did not own and use weapons regularly. Could any group in the US eliminate another group? It would be an impossible task thanks to the widespread ownership of guns and ammo in the country. People would defend whichever group was being hunted. Humans in the US aren't as easily hunted and slaughtered as they have been in places like China (at their own hands and at the hands of Japan), Russia, Germany, Rwanda, Cambodia, Cuba, Venezuela, Chile, Argentina, Bosnia, Turkey. Certainly preventing genocide is a worthwhile endeavor. While we may have to deal with extra crime and terrorist acts/mental illness acts, there are many benefits to gun ownership as well. Even without guns, as the instructor points out, people kill with hammers, bats, knives in a terroristic/mass fashion in other countries. Police cannot be everywhere, and with how badly police reform is needed in the US...would we even want them everywhere? How does one protect oneself when the government goes bad? Guns. It is a human right to be able to protect your own life. One has a right to life, and this includes the right to protect it with effective means. Having so many guns does require us to live up to this responsibility to protect ourselves more than usual, but that is an acceptable tradeoff for preventing genocide, being prepared and preventing war, and ensuring that the People always have the power and not some tyrannical political dictator or oligarchy.
I'd love to be apart of these gun debates, i know these students are young adults and both sides do great. I watched this and was wanting to answer some of these questions for the tow young men.
Peoples fear of guns is inversely proportional to their knowledge of guns. The less you know about guns, the more you fear them, the more you know about guns, the less you fear them.
Appreciate this professor being this conversation to a classroom which needs ti happen more often. I don’t agree with the one guy about having a mental health check prior to buying a weapon. We shouldn’t have a prerequisite to utilize a right in the Bill of Rights. No one wants the same logic applied to the 1st, 4th, 5th and so on. Mental health should be addressed in a way it doesn’t infringe on the rights of others.
AR when referencing any AR component firearm refers to Armalite not Assault Rifle!! Armalite began making lighter weight components (stocks, upper and lower receivers) for .223/.556 calibered rifles. The components do NOT change the functionality of the rifle…just make them lighter in weight.
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I felt like no one knows much about guns and the fact that they think an AR-15 is an automatic weapon speaks volumes to the ignorance of weapons in America.
The Americans aren't the ones who called it an Assault Rifle. Everyone in America who owns one knows it's not an Assault Rifle. People outside of US, or those in America who don't one one or even own a gun at all) , who watch the news thinks it is.
The teacher should've corrected the Indian student but he's super left which explains why he didnt.
I believe the guy called it a semi-automatic rifle but you are 100% correct on the “assault rifle” part.
they did not do a great job representing the gun community 😂
@@U_y_g_h_u_r_L_i_v_e_s_Matter I’ve always been curious about the term “assault rifle”, where it originated. In my mind a rifle can’t assault anything, the operator does the “assault”.
The first major "assault rifle" was the German Stg 44, translates to Storm Rifle. Governments make up names for a lot of things.
Vegetarian guy from India: "And what do you feel, when you kill something?" (While hunting)
Gun-owning guy: "Recoil." 😂
Yea the vegan guy was trying to talk down on him. Knew that guy was vegan when he started talking.
Vegetable harvest destroys thousands of animals at a time.
Vegetarian lmfao, at his level of education still dont understand. your didnt have blood on your hands doesn't mean your food is clean.
I think the Indian guy’s pronounce is not a he/his. 🥴🤣
Full.
As a combat vet, former SWAT officer, former executive protection and a gunsmith, these kids need an education on firearms. I carry one on my person everywhere I go. Governments manipulate statistics to lean towards a goal. The UK is a good example. Crime statistics are manipulated. Violent crimes with a weapon are actually more present there than here per person vs population. Most of gun "violence" is suicide in the US.
That is correct! 50% of the 60,000 gun deaths per year in The US, are suicides where no one is harmed but the person with the gun. I believe the statistics show that another 5% are accidental gun deaths, and another 5% are caused by Law Enforcement in the line of duty. So that leaves approx. 24,000 deaths by gun crime (murder) or 0.00007% of the total US population. Out of these 24,000 murders per year (certainly a tragedy) 80% are caused by inner city gangs in major Democrat run cities with very strict gun laws. The statistics are publicly available, and yet, people choose to not do any research on the subject, and just let the "News" tell them what to think.
80% of murders are gang/drug related , we have a gang problem, not a gun violence problem
Damn right. Hooah! Thank you for your service brother.
Don't forget 94% of "mass" shootings occur in gun free zones!
These are international students. Their countries have very little violent crime, unless you consider gangland violence. What are you going to teach them?
I have no idea how this man is still a professor in the current university environment. Kudos to him, for teaching critical thinking.
that was the first thing my wife said when I showed her this channel.
a critical thinking leftest is a rare thing
5:10 - The initials AR in "AR-15" are ArmaLite Rifle. The political term "assault rifle" just happens to have the same initials.
Fun fact: Hitler coined the term Assault Rifle. Weird how these anti-gun people keep using Nazi terms.
I was waiting for him to be corrected. The guy did mention soon after that you have to pull the trigger 30 times.
I chuckle every time
So assault rifle is a category of gun as described as a rifle with selective fire having at least two modes of semi-auto, burst or full auto. Secondly they must be able to shoot accurately at 100 yards or meters. Assault weapon is a purely political term.
@@bullshark3771 - I thought assault was never used as in descriptive term by manufacturers or retailers. Do you evidence that assault is used in the business?
I'm in Ireland and even I was annoyed that most of the peole in that room, particularly the two international students, now believe he has some sort of military machine gun. They were all talking when he mentioned pulling the trigger 30 times and didn't react when the guy called it an assault rifle. Just falsly reinforcing to all the ignorant that AR means Assault Rifle and you just pull the trigger and the gun sprays out bullets.🤔
I had the same thought. I own like8 myself 😂 but I figure they’re kids just sharing what they know, not gun experts.
Weren’t AR15’s originally made for military use?
@@631knm No, the M16 was. They look the same. They both look "scary". If we put the functions and barrel of the M16 in a wooden stock it would still be the more dangerous of the 2.
@@631knm no sir
@@631knmit just looks cool
Doesn’t perform much better than several other rifles
People are afraid of what they don’t have experience with or understand
Thank you for challenging students to think instead of shutting down discussion and not allowing them to actually converse and think about the harder topics. By the way- we have guns, we hunt, we eat what we harvest, and I’m married to a Game Warden.
I was impressed that the young lady from Korea was interested in shooting!! I’ve seen a few videos where “gun haters” were brought to a gun range and were able to shoot various guns and had their minds changed.
But he did shut down conversations, and he led the conversation in the direction he wanted.
This wasn't a discussion it was an interrogation.
@@afro_snake6458 You've got to be more specific, cuz I don't understand what you're referring to. I mean of course he led the conversation because he's the teacher and that's part of his job. But I'm curious as to what direction you think he was leading the conversation in?
I would say he seemed friendlier to the idea of private ownership and use of guns then I probably would have expected. Is that what you mean?
AR-15 does not mean assault rifle. Someone should have corrected them.
Sporting rifle.
I appreciate how this professor challenges his students. I don't always agree with his conclusions, but his methods of pulling his students into engaging with the subject is amazing, and I appreciate that he doesn't push any of them to take on his perspective, but he also challenges them.
I agree. It at least helps people think for themselves. I don't want everyone to agree with me. I simply want people to be able to critically think and understand a issue or beliefs or situations on their own and not just be spoon fed the same indoctrination
But that is really the whole point of the exercise isn't it? To teach people how to discuss something, to be able to see, understand and consider the opposite point of view rather than stick your fingers in your ears and yell so you can't hear things you dong agree with.
I'd want to add a phrase to your answer ". . . . most of the time . . . ." because sometimes with this topic, he has handled the guy answering like a patsy for an anti gun agenda, but I love his lectures.
@@caseygrubbs1123couldnt agree more👍😂👍👍👍👍👍👍
This conversation should be happening in every classroom across the country.
I’ll take you even further. Every family should be having this conversation. Schools are not an excuse for parents to leave their kids to figure things out or be parented by schools
well said good sir!@@ivanrivera3387
This was one of the most ignorant and infuriating conversations about Rights that I have ever seen.
Well said!!! It's the very reason why I made sure my then 6yo daughter came to my desk to see it and safely carry it. I wanted to make sure that she felt the gravity of what she was holding in her hands, to metaphorically kill her curiosity so she doesn't wind up a tragic statistic; But most importantly, understand why we have two in our house. @@ivanrivera3387
It was hilarious seeing the shy personality of the South Korean girl to say "Can I shoot some?" 😂 but this was a very interesting and educational format for anyone. I enjoyed watching
Not to be stereotypical, but I've met lots of Asian students who would like to try shooting once, at least since it's fairly uncommon back home for them
I think she understands a little bit because Korea has obligatory military service because there's always the threat of war.
I thought that was a great first date!
I can imagine it is scary growing up in a country where you have absolutely no way of defending yourself. She probably would like to feel the power of self protection. Until you live vulnerable to whims of evil people. It is hard to understand. We can never give up that God given right!
@@michaelrobinson1059 I actually have a in law from Korea that explained to me what it was like growing up in the bad parts of Korea. I guess the ghettos to America. And yeah there is absolutely no tools for self defense and the police couldn't care less on what was happening. Just really sad.
I love how enthusiastic and serious the Korean girl was about going to the range to learn to shoot with the boys!
Noticed that!
She was more interested in going to the range with the tall hot boy.
Hell yeah!😂. Id take her but pretty sure there was a second reason there. 😉
She wasnt serious whatsoever she was sitting there giggling while casually making a joke of the freedoms that save countless lives in this Country every single year. I would love to see her reaction if people were up on that stage doing the same thing only with their Right to speak freely or move freely or vote or practice their religion of choice. Oh then it would have been very different because then it affects them.
The Indian guy talking about “blood on their hands” hasn’t seen where his food is grown 😂
If you haven't killed a person, you don't have blood on your hands. If you hunt an animal, especially for food, you will literally have blood on your hands, but you'll also have food on your plate. When times get really bad, you'll be amazed how quickly people's value systems slide.
@@saurecoPeople can be food too. 😂
@@saureconot to mention, if you buy meat from the grocery store or butcher you have just as much blood on your hands as the hunter does. The only difference is that you had a farm kill the animal instead of killing it yourself.
In the case of killing people, going to the grocery store is literally just like hiring a hitman to go kill the person for you. It's still murder, even if you didn't directly commit it.
Or the fact that he eating all the food that the animals he's trying to protect will not be able to eat.
Farmers will tell you that a lot of small animals and insects are destroyed while plowing, cultivating, seeding, and harvesting plants.
I appreciate what the teacher said about hunting. I don't hunt but I've always understood that respect most hunters have for the animal and how that isn't nearly as bad as what alot of animals go through that are farmed
Ever notice that the same people that will tell you Indigenous People were smarter than we are and understood the Earth so well are completely against those practices? Ironic.
@@Danurriolasome of them believe indigenous people were vegetarians. It's ridiculous
Hopefully, he'll do a lecture on farming and ranching to expose the misinformation that's been directed on that industry...
Literally, some of the most enjoyable days of my life have been spent hunting and didn’t even take a shot. Hunting is sooo different from hiking in the woods. You’re in tune with the environment. The thrill of the hunt and what you see when you’re sitting still in the woods for an hour can’t be beat.
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One of the greatest days of my life (I'm 60) was the last day that I hunted with my dad. We each did an independent sweep of this large stretch of woods after having some morning coffee at his truck. We converged at a pre-arranged meeting point near a swamp and decided to go around the swamp, instead of through it as we headed back to the truck.
After about 30 minutes we were on a trail and a beautiful 8-point buck came out of the brush and stood right in front of us. It was almost close enough to touch. I raised my shotgun to my shoulder. Dad did the same about a second later. I sighted-in on the deer and then lowered the shotgun. Dad did the same.
The deer looked at us for another couple of seconds and then walked away.
Dad asked why I didn't shoot and I replied that we had enough meat in the freezer and didn't need it.
My dad and I still talked about it whenever we'd get together for the next 30 years until he passed away.
I still go out and shoot targets. But, if I don't need the meat, then I don't even aim at an animal.
USMC 1986 - 1994
Had a perfect time to debunk there is no such thing is an "assault" rifle, just like there is no such thing as "assault" (ENTER ANY OBJECT)... an object can't commit an action (assault) on someone without actions of a human. Pretty common sense stuff.
Rifles can be designed for a purpose, such a bolt action high caliber rifle would be a good sniper/precision rifle. A rifle capable of automatic fire with an intermediate cartridge would be an assault rifle. Names of these guns are irrelevant ARMS are protected by the 2nd amendment so even beltfed machineguns should be legal, PERIOD.
@@Robertsmith-un5cu "assault" should never be included on any semi-automatic rifle that is designed to fire one bullet with each trigger pull. The definition of "assault" weapons vary state to state.
I'd be more understanding if "assault" were used with fully automatic weapons but even then - just use the term "fully automatic"
I'm not being pedantic ... "assault" is used to stoke/install fear into people...
@@Robertsmith-un5cu AR-15 are semi auto meaning you on pull one bullet. You can set it to burst fire I believe which let's a burst of 3 bullets but it will never just spray tons of bullets. AR also stands for ArmaLite the company that made the rifle not Assault Rifle
@@wuxiagamescentralThere is no select fire on AR-15s sold in the US
@@derrickm2093 the Colt Model yes but the original had the select fire
I've taken about 10 people shooting for their first time. literally every single time they have a blast ("this is SO much fun!") and come away with respect but also better knowledge and less fear. About half have gone on to purchase their own.
Took Japanese exchange students shooting. When we left, one said "I have lived in America for 6 months, but today I have experienced America".
@@hobbes2555love it!
Facts
I miss the stupidity of Covid! Wear a mask, but rub your mouth all over the mic and touch your mask non-stop to keep it from sagging. Stop your diaper from sagging!
...I'd love to be able to go back and relive my first experience at a gun range...
American schools used to regularly teach children about guns in schools. My HS had a rifle club and when I went to school many of the students had guns in the gun racks of their cars, particularly during hunting season. All those guns at school and not a single shooting at the school for DECADES.
This needs to be talked about more in schools I commend this teacher for his efforts and teaching.
before of after the active shooter drill?
@@BettyBettyBoBetty If there was more discussion on this subject there would be better understanding and respect for what it is... The problem is the parents aren't smart enough to teach their own child respect of guns and allow them to play video games that have no concept of accountability for what a gun can do. I was raised around guns, taught how to use them, do NOT EVER POINT THEM AT PEOPLE... NEVER put your finger in the trigger until ready to shoot, be sure if there was more in this subject there would be less violence... But it all starts at home baby taking the time to show and tell right from wrong and take those god damn violent video games away from kids under 15 away from them and for parents to take responsibility to raise their kids like the parents did in the past... All it takes is common sense...
Great give and take from young people on Guns and hunting. I wish there would have been some discussion on the 2nd Amendment. Overall I loved it. An opportunity was missed to inform people about the AR 15. It is NOT an assault rifle. It does not fire faster than any other pistol or semi auto weapon. It fires 1 bullet every time you pull the trigger. The bullet of the AR 15 is one of the smallest used in rifles - .223 (similar to a .22. AR stands for Armalite Rifle. Not Assault Rifle. Still these Q&As are so good. And vital for people to use critical thinking on these issues instead of being fed a narrative.
.224 in jacketed. .225 in lead. I mould my own projectiles although for the ar its almost a joke
How come no one corrected the gentleman that an AR15 is not an assault rifle, AR stands for ArmaLite rifle model 15 and os semi automatic. Is it an assault rifle it would have fire mode selection like semi-automatic & automatic or semi-automatic and burst fire.
I honestly wonder if it was clipped out or edited, these kids seem to understand and I would expect them to have corrected it as well. You can tell there is editing on this video.
Because there is really no formal definition for an "assault rife". It's kind of a made up term with no defined meaning.
Good discussion. I really appreciated the professor’s point at the end about small farming/hunting vs factory meat production. It is the very reason I became a hunter and farmer, you appreciate and respect the animal more when you understand that you have taken a life in order to feed yourself and your family, rather than being disconnected by just going to the grocery.
True but he's got to understand that not everyone has the finances and access to aquire his free range eggs and grass fed beef. Corporate farms feed the rest of us.
Dr. Sam Richards, thank you for promoting open and honest conversations about important and current societal issues.
I would have had to stop and correct the whole "an AR15 is an assault rifle" thing the very first chance I got. The reason that lie is perpetuated is because people who don't have a clue hear it and it's never addressed so they just think it's true. That guy probably didn't intend to lie, he just heard it somewhere and thinks it's true, too.
I would ask him to define "assault rifle"
@@Whitepilledprincess No one can ever define it, and that makes me smile lol..
@@ATF-Agent-007its easy to define "assault rifle", but the term "assault weapon" is the political bs one
@@MrSolLeksyeah. The weapon part covers whatever isnt an actual Rifle
I like the topic of discussion but I wish the two people who own guns would have set the record straight as far as some of the mischaracterizations about the firearms, such as the guy referring to them as an assault rifle.
Yes. And they should have said that most gun deaths are from stolen guns.
@@Dee-743most are suicide
@@Riorozenassault rifle/weapon are both politically charged phrases meant to scare the uneducated masses. The words you're looking for is "machine gun", which is illegal for civilians to own unless you pay the ATF bribe money and only buy a machine gun that's older than 1986(correct me on the date if I'm wrong).
This is my new favorite thing to listen to on TH-cam. Your class is amazing, and I'm very grateful that you're sharing it with all of us. Keep up the great work!
An AR-15 is not an assault rifle.
AR stands for Armalite Rifle, named after the company who originally made them.
Further, an AR-15 can fire as fast as any pistol, it's one bullet per trigger pull. Which is semi-automatic. Pull the trigger once, it fires the bullet, than gets another bullet ready to fire, ready for another trigger pull.
Assault rifles have an extremely strict definition. One of the most important defining characteristics is a select switch that allows it to switch between semi-automatic (one bullet per trigger pull) to fully automatic (bullets firing for as long as the trigger is held) or burst (~3 bullets per one trigger pull).
The AR can not do any of that.
Additionally, most AR-15's are chamber in 5.56(.223) which is among the smallest of common round sizes.
The reason why people like them is compared to other rifles (which have much larger rounds, grain and projectile size) they are much easier to shoot (less recoil), but they are also extremely customizable. And because there are so many who have them, it's easy to get parts. In a way they are kinda like the Honda's of the gun world.
These conversations are much more effective than middle ground conversations like those that Jubilee puts out. Students need mentors like this guy to help reframe our conversations to learn from rather than destroy what we don’t understand.
the "recoil" nice answer to a condescending question
How is that a condescending question?
@@3-methylindole730 It's condescending to a degree. There was a bit of an attitude behind it, so that even I suspected and wasn't surprised that the guy was a vegetarian.
The entire world has a history of hunting. Only recently have some parts of certain societies decided that meat is immoral.
@@3-methylindole730 Because the goofball asking it was very obviously being condescending in his tone and inflection.
Excellent topic. Also shows how different those of us whose parents are police feel. Our Law Enforcement parents protect you & have to deal with public criticism & complaining, and that is BS! They have a mandate to enforce the laws of their state. I followed, graduating the Illinois State Police Academy after USAF enlistment & 6 yrs Air National Guard. Firearms, mental accuracy, attention to detail & ability to follow orders are all required in military & law enforcement.
And as a LEO you're supposed to uphold the Constitution including when your superiors, those giving you orders, tell you to do something to someone that violates their constitutional rights and yet most LEO's do not do that they simply say "I was just following orders" and so that Just following orders mentality means as long as you own the person at the top you can make anyone below them do anything.
Police enforce the laws passed by the politicians people elect. I love to emphasize that latter part to people
Im disappointed that these two gun owners do not know the reason to defend the 2nd. They don't know the reasons we have and hold them. Even more surprised that the guy speaking didn't inform the class of why we have them and they are necessary for their freedoms.
I enjoyed this discussion since especially since I do not fit the normal image of a gun owner, being an Asian female. I used to be a competitive shooter and I am an NRA certified shooting instructor. I taught the required firearm safety class in Hawaii, where it is required in order to buy a pistol. Gun control is such a challenging topic because there are so many laws for gun control but there are still so many tragic shootings and crimes committed with firearms. And most of those firearms used were illegally acquired. As an up standing citizen and as a shooter I do not feel more gun laws will make us any safer but I would and do comply with all the laws as a gun owner and will continue to. But do I think more laws will stop gun violence. My answer is no because laws that are not enforced effectively does not have any impact whatsoever especially since most guns used in crimes and/or shootings were not acquired legally. I do believe some kind of mental screening for gun buyers, like the required background check (for purchase of a pistol) is a good idea but implementing that sort of screening takes time and do you just screen a person once? There are so many issues and challenges when it come to firearms but I personally feel it is something that goes beyond more laws, I feel society and how we value life (other people’s lives) is a big part of the issue and to fix that is even a greater challenge.
The M16 was designed for small Asian females to be able to defend themselves in Vietnam
Laws have gotten so strict to the point of defensive uses being impossible which is probably part of the point. At some point politicians and media wont have to blatantly lie about the number of self defensive uses
funny though how gun control works so well in other modern countries
Great discussion. Can not imagine how difficult it is for those from another culture to understand Americans' love of guns.
Taking India as an example, maybe if they had more appreciation for guns they would not have a caste based society. By the way, India is not as peaceful as they make us to believe through media. They have pretty strong brawls with Pakistan and China. They even have nuclear weapons.
I learnt to appreciate them because of history of 80s and 90s Peru. Terrorists armed to the teeth would arrive at villages, massacre the men, rape the women, and torture the children. The villagers only had machetes. A part of the solution was arming them with rifles. "God made men, Colt made them equal."
Or freedom ! freedom means allowing citizens to run with scissors.
@@henriquelaydner4080exactly, imagine looking down on someone for hunting when your family likely has servants
@@leshoban3648 funny how the US ended up so far down on the World freedom Index though.
I'm always amazed that so many people could be fascinated by the AR but can't be bothered to just read the wikki. I've shot some impressive weapons, the AR is a hopped up .22.
"Recoil....." LOL!!!!!! Loved that response.
I think gun knowledge should be required teaching in schools..when I was in highschool we had gun clubs and safety courses we could take, think we should bring those back and make them mandatory.
Same. I grew up in Oklahoma. Kids parked in the highschool parking lot with filled gun racks in their trucks. We had a school shooting club. And none of us worried about being shot.
@@LastBastian funny thing is I was in Connecticut at the time...how the times have changed... it's almost as if someone on high decided they wanted the populous to be ignorant on firearms...
Before the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, the term “assault weapon” didn’t exist. The legal definition of a an assault rifle is a intermediate cartridge fired from a fully auto rifle. Then the AWB was introduced, they came up with the term assault weapon, which basically covered all semi auto rifles that used a detachable magazine in existence.
The ban grandfathered in the weapons already in existence, so millions stayed in circulation. The gun manufacturers removed a couple of cosmetic features and continued to sell them with the exact same capabilities and rate of fire as the grandfathered guns.
When the ban ended, some states kept it going on a state basis, New York and Connecticut being two of them. I bring this up because Adam Lanza used an AR that complied with the federal ban, as well as the state ban that continues to this day.
Remember this the next time Joe Biden says he passes that assault weapons ban. It did nothing. I bought my first AR in 1999, right in the middle of the ban. Had milk crates full of legal 30 round magazines.
Laws - Probably the #1 law that is never discussed is the fact that murder is a capital offense. Said another way, you can get legally executed if you break that law. SO adding more laws wouldn't likely be the answer to deter a murderer.
Yeah I’m sure a person that murders would simply obey a new law
This is the type of common sense that is hard to get through to people these days, lol.
Im a bit disappointed that he didnt correct the assault rifle claim. An AR15 is NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE!
I love watching this class. The professor runs this so well with student involvement
These gentlemen are living my dream! I crave to be asked all sorts of questions related to firearms and laws and how to fix certain problems in society related to guns
I really enjoy listening to this professors rhetoric. He is incredibly fair and does his best to be balanced. Great content!
FANTASTIC explanation on the life cycle of slaughterhouses. And egg farming! You nailed it professor.... People, (on the whole), don't understand hunting to put food on the table. For some people it would be the cheapest and only way to have meat on the table!
LOL moment " what do you feel? - RECOIL!!! " HILARIOUS
Awesome lecture/discussion the 2 guys that own guns did a great job answering. Props to the teacher for having these discussions. This is the type of teacher the students will remember and appreciate
When the teacher affirmed the falsehood about the AR-15 it was clear he's biased.
Excellent conversation. I'm glad to see that there are still places and people that can have respectful debates/conversation so that we may come to understand one another. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
When the one student described the AR-15 as an “assault rifle” because it “allows you to shot a lot of bullets quickly” I facepalmed
Wish I could've talked to those students...I feel like ALOT was left out of the replies..
More Conversations between anti-gunners vs pro-gunners need to be had. I recently became pro-gun about 3months ago after being in the middle about it. I dont regret that decision….
When someone mentioned AR-15 and described it as an "Assault Rifle", that's the best time to SPEAK UP and clarify the name of Armalite Rifle company!
I don't hunt,but I read where most wild animals suffer a much more horrible death in the wild.Starvation,or attacked alive by predators,to name two.what I was told by my hunting buddies is to make sure its quick to avoid suffering.
The professor allowed the AR 15 incorrectly. It's a semi-auto rifle not an assault weapon.
Should be a mandatory conversation in every school.
I wish the two guys would have asked the professor to define what an assault rifle is? Also to recite the constitution as it was intended for. Not for hunting but to protect us from a tyrannical government!
I encourage people to actually look up history and realize that our founding fathers were actually looking into and inventing rifles that could in fact fire very quickly. Puckle gun was invented before the constitution was written. There’s another guy Belgian kinda name that had a musket that could shoot like 10 rounds in 30 seconds. Pretty good considering a well trained person could get 1 round off in about 30 seconds. Another fun fact: Lewis and Clark apparently had an air rifle yes that’s correct and it was capable of taking down elk.
AR stands for Armalite Rifle, designated for the company that engineered it, Armalite, not assault rifle. The ARs that civilians can buy are one shot per trigger pull like any pistol and many shotguns and other rifles.
Annoyed no one correct the guy about ARs
“The spirit of the animal is on you.” WTF. Humanizing animals is one of the issues today. There is a difference.
The gentleman that is a vegetarian should research how much death is involved in supplying enough crops for that lifestyle. Anyone that consumes food they have not grown themselves is in one way responsible for the death of other living things. But there is a huge disconnect so most people are not aware of what had to die in order for there food to be put in front of them.
I appreciate the forum to have an open, reasonable and intelligent conversation about this topic. We can learn from one another.
No we must hate and fight each other😂. Similarities unite and differences divide. And not talking gets us no where
AR15 isn't an 'assault rifle'...that very term is a manipulative con..an AR15 is just an ordinary semi-automatic rifle...no more or less capable of inflicting damage than any other rifle
In my opinion I think that we should be teaching young Americans about the 2nd amendment and why it is important and necessary to have a firearm
Wish the 2 students would have corrected the international student about the meaning of AR
Some little know-it-all millennial college sheep once asked me that question, “why do you even need a gun”. I simply asked them “Don’t you?” Then she actually raised her voice to the level of a child throwing a hissy fit and creamed “No! absolutely not! I HATE guns”. To which I replied “So, you hate an inanimate object that you know nothing about that has done no harm to you or anyone else on it’s own. And you think that gun will animate itself and just jump up and randomly start killing people. You need to immediately seek mental help”. I don’t think she appreciated the truth, logic and common sense I was laying on her.
Scenario/Hypothetical to chew on: Lets say an active shooter walked through those double doors into that lecture-hall and started opening fire. How many people do you think would die with Option A, vs Option B:
A: No guns are allowed on campus, teacher is unarmed / all students are unarmed.
B: Guns are allowed on campus, Teacher is armed, students are armed.
Think to yourself, DO YOU REALLY THINK that active shooter is going to be alive for more than 4-5 seconds after opening fire with scenario B? Cause with Scenario A, he can shoot at his leisure, and no one is gonna stop him until sirens are outside. Ya, in both scenarios, people die, but there are gonna be FARRRRRRRRRRR less with scenario B.
Scenario C: Active shooter walks in with a nerf gun because the black market prices are so exorbitant that he is too poor to afford a firearm.
I'd love to be a part of the on stage, answering questions, teaching others of the reality and life of owning firearms in America
generally and sadly, most student who are in attendance at this lecture perceive guns from movies and tv shows, like john wick, saving pvt ryan, james bond, or some fantasy "gun" movies. surprisingly, the two people who never shot a gun before who want to go out and shoot never asked a question about what are the most important factors or techniques in shooting. I believe Penn state does have an NCAA women's rifle shooting team, maybe invite them to the lecture and ask them a similar set of questions. Olympic gold medalist in pistol are from South Korea, Japan, and India.
This was an excellent opportunity for these 2 young men to educate all of these people on firearms. Also, I wonder how much of this was to create dialog and how much of this was to satisfy the professors curiosity. All in all it seems like a solid discussion. Props to this professor.
Restrictive gun laws is the same as removing safe drivers from the road to reduce drunk drivers.
It’s not an assault rifle and it doesn’t shoot faster than any other semi auto gun.
5:13 An AR15 doesn’t shoot bullets any faster than any other semi-automatic firearm. One bullet per each pull on the trigger. Also, it’s not an “assault rifle”. 🤦♀️
Exactly. That part annoyed me.
not the best information given but it’s a start. Their idea of an AR-15 is far removed. It’s semi automatic just like a handgun. Shoots at the same rate and you can have a magazine that holds 30 rounds in a handgun. I would definitely have invited anyone wanting to learn and experience safely handling and firing a firearm if i was one of these two students.
I wish I had this kind of college experience.
It's not an assault rifle. It's a semi autmatic rifle just like almost all guns. It shoots one bullet with one trigger pull.
3 seconds in I can’t take anyone seriously. 300+ people in a room wearing ma$k$. Breathing same air. That makes sense!
The masks for these kids was just so silly.
Someone should explain the difference between a battle rifle, assault rifle, carbine, hunting rifle and the different ammunition between them
The teacher needed to recruit a "Pro-2A" person also. (not just "pro-gun" people)
I don't understand what you mean. What's the difference between a pro-gun individual, and a pro-2A individual? How might their responses or opinions differ?
I'm not a "gun guy" myself. I carried a handgun for about ten years when I was a probation officer in the 80's and early 90's. It remained locked in a box after that for quite a while. (Note: after 30 years in a locked box in the closet - the ammo was still good) I have never been a hunter or into shooting sports. When being trained for my concealed carry permit in 1985, I did fire two shots from a shotgun (to see what it was like) and about 20 in a burst, from a full auto police short barrel rifle. I have not fired a shotgun again, and no other rifles until I built my first AR-15 a few years ago from an 80% lower. (you tube explains all that)
Around six years ago, I started paying attention to politics and gun laws and the Constitution and the 2A.... and how hard the left is working to destroy it. So I am building AR-15s for myself and my kids and grandkids (and my kids don't even have boyfriends or girlfriend yet)
People do not seriously think of the phrase "a well regulated militia" and its importance. It means a well-functioning, well-equiped, well-skilled group of soldiers. Here is the question I ask people, and I ask YOU this question now: "If YOU and I are suddenly called upon, to band together and form up a "well regulated militia" - do you know what weapons and ammo and equipment (that you are well-skilled with) that you will bring from home, which you will take into battle?"
A "gun person" (hunter, sport shooter, concealed carrier) may not have a good answer to that question. A "2A person" will.
Wow, this video really intrigued me. It really makes me regret my time in college how much time I wasted and not applying myself. Its a very interesting conversation now as a fully developed adult in my 30s I wish I could go back and participate in this not only because I am an avid 2A supporter, but because I feel like my opinions have fully developed in my rationale has too.
Many of those countries that do not allow their citizens to have guns have a major common denominator - they are protected by the U.S. Without such protection they would have been taken over by a totalitarian regime decades ago because they did not have the means of defending themselves - guns. The primary purpose of citizen gun ownership is not hunting, but self-defense, but more particularly self-defense against totalitarianism, of which has always been preceded by taking away the right of citizens to own guns.
Well IMO if U.S. protected countries needed to protect them selfs, they would need to spend money on their army. Thus they need to re-allocate funding from somewhere from other government sectors... like utilities... medicine... and would end up like the U.S.
Having shit utilities and no accesses to "free" basic and or high-end medical care. But ya guys can thank Trump for stepping up and demanding the NATO countries to pay the U.S. what its owed.
Here, in the U.K we have the Royal Navy, Royal Air force and our own army to protect us and our school kids don't need to do active shooter drills.
@@andrewtate2380thats a very poor take.
@@donttreadonme1423 It's an accurate take.
@@hobbso8508 it's really not at all.... we can dive in.
Off my meds for a while and I am moved to tears by this lecture. 34 years I was a vegetarian for political reasons. I support hunting and gun rights. I’m just a bad shot.
I was in elementary school in the 80s and we had firearm safety and hunter safety IN the school. Yea it was after school but it was still in the school, with our rifles and there were still ppl there during the classes. Nothing ever ever happened. Though this was in central Maine. We've always had a firearm culture up here. But once you take that teaching of the whole aspect of owning or possessing a firearm and all that entails you get problems. Which is I think a core of the issue today. one of many. One also being depression meds and mental illness in general. Single parent homes is a core also I suspect. When you look at the school shooter types they have most of the same issues going on like i mentioned. Another is culture. But that's not in the school shooting bracket, that's a city thing. Which we don't see here where I live unless a city person comes here and starts trouble with a gun.
Talking about guns in America is like talking about talking in America. If you think speech is a fundamental right of citizens, you must believe the same about guns!
Is voting a right?
@@hobbso8508 trying to bring up Jon Stewart's terrible "point"..?
@@donttreadonme1423 Trying to avoid the question?
@hobbso8508 it's an entirely different concept bc the constitution expressely gives government the decision to structure our election process. The Bill of Rights is an acknowledgement of preexisting natural rights and a set of limitations placed on government.
I believe that the instructor should clarify that the AR15 is not an assault weapon.
An AR15 is just a rifle, it's not an assault gun and it doesn't shoot many bullets at a time. All ignorant lies.
It doesn't even have to be a rifle, it's a model type. AR-15 pistols exist.
Based Prof.
He's not asserting an ideal or philosophy here. He's not ascribing a hierarchy of good or bad, necessarily. He's invoking thoughts about the things we tend to take for granted and/or are ignorant of.
This is my response to how guns are seen in my country
We have guns here in Australia and ownership is highly regulated but still obtainable if you abide by the requirements for owning one. Most owners are farmers or people living in rural areas and they are seen and used like a plumber uses a wrench. They are a tool used to do a job so you should use the right tool for the job including sport shooting. That's why appropriate firearms are sold here. After our first and only mass shooting the population voted and agreed to ban and remove all fire arms that are no@t appropriate for the roles civilians need them for. The gun by back scheme was so successful in removing inappropriate firearms we have some of the lowest levels of gun violence in the world. You can still hunt here, you can still go to a range and shoot guns. Australia has several gold medalists in the Olympics for clay shooting. Gun ownership is totally ok as long as the populace respect them for what there intended purpose is while ensuring that regulations are in place for those that would see to do otherwise.
(And no our guns don't shoot out spider, snakes, crocodiles sharks or anything like that either just regular bullets 😅)
Since you gave up your guns you sure had some strict lockdowns over there.
There is a fundamental difference in mindset between Americans and Australians.
We believe that we were endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. We do not believe that other men, or our government, gives us those rights. Because of this, we in turn ha ve certain inherent responsibilities. We are responsible for our own defense. We task the federal and local governments with certain tasks relating to general public safety, but each individual is ultimately responsible for defending themselves from: governments (foreign and domestic), individuals intending to do them harm, and animal predators.
Because of this right and responsibility, we have a second amendment in our constitution recognizing our inherent right to keep and bear arms. The "appropriate" use of a firearm is self defense in this regard.
Any US citizen who does not recognize this right and responsibility has offloaded their personal responsibility to their government, and has subsequently given away their right to self defense.
This is why an anti-gun argument will never be convincing to a truly free person. We are absolutely willing to accept that someone else may give up their freedom and responsibility to others, but we refuse to do the same.
It is antithetical to true individual liberty, that a group of others can vote to remove another's rights.
Explain your teen gang problem. Someone in Victoria was recently arrested in possession of a homemade sword, ffs.
@@woodworkinggunnybear581 Yes, some of you are fucking crazy.
@Paul Rice Yeah. I always pictured Aussies as a tough, freedom loving people. With the way you cucked to the lockdown and the gunlaws, It'll take a lot to gain that respect back.
Don't feel bad though, America has turned into a crap show too.
Professor did a very good job on that reality check.
An ar-15 is not an automatic rifle?
We know that you're an American
No. It is a semi automatic 22 caliber weapon. One of the smallest hunting rifles made.
@@jadavison To be fair, its a .22 caliber bullet with a big fat cartridge behind it. We're not talking .22LR here.
@@hamnchee That is fair. It is also fair to clear up the BS that liars (corporate media) keep saying about AR-15s... In reality they are less lethal than standard hunting rifles which commonly shoot .308 or 30-06. Those bullets and the cartridges and powder volume behind the bullet are 2 to 3 times larger than an AR-15
Negative. AR 15 is semi auto. M16 has a selector switch for either semi auto or three round burst. Specific M16s have selector for fully automatic firing.
The average Joe cannot purchase an M16 (unfortunately), unless it is one that the government sold to the cartels.
The 2 gun owning kids are proof that just bc you are a gun owner or like guns, you still can have no clue about the 2nd amendment and government infringement.
Im from india love guns
Good for you. Do you want a cookie?
@@blinksstayfresh2524 want a gun
@@blinksstayfresh2524 u r 100% that other vegetarian dude
Dope!
Sure but I dint believe guns should be accessible for everyone and for many countries they are safer that.
@7:19 the student asked about these shootings that happen he says on a daily basis and what can be done about it. Nobody ever points out that it always happens in a gun free zone where a criminal or a mentally unstable gunman feels safe because no law abiding or mentally stable person will be able to protect themselves. Or that millions, yes actually millions of incidents reported and documented across the US that go unpublicized about armed civilians stopping violent crimes. If it bleeds it leads. Stopping a criminal with a weapon by a law abiding American with a weapon goes unnoticed whereas a criminal killing innocents with a weapon makes the front page in the newspaper or is the headline for your local news report on tv. These are the things that need to be brought into the light in these conversations.
S. Korean think having a gun itself is very dangerous damaging very disturbing thing to have it ordinary civilians. Society should feel safe so having gun itself as an ordinary people to own a gun itself is asking for a trouble and danger. Gun should be used by millitary and special police officer for deadly criminal. Law and police are there to protect in civilized world. Not taking law on own hand. Maybe a gun owners gives feeling of power...
Guns are designed to be dangerous. That is what makes them useful. They provide the ability to defend as well as attack, and it is estimated firearms are used millions of times a year in the US in defense. Most of these times the firearm is not actually discharged or shot - just brandishing it is enough to stop/prevent the attack so that no one is injured.
America is unique in a number of ways. We have not had a war here since the Civil War when countless soldiers gave their lives to end the abhorrent practice of slavery, often fighting family/friends on the other side. In the world wars, American soldiers benefitted from having extra experience and skill with rifle shooting, compared to soldiers of other countries where using guns was not as much in the culture.
Civilian ownership of guns provides a few benefits: 1) helps prevent common street crime 2) helps prevent looting/civil unrest during emergencies 3) helps dissuade other countries from invading 4) helps soldiers be prepared for war and 5) helps dissuade the government from infringing too far on human/civil rights.
Ukraine just learned how important readiness is. Perhaps if gun ownership and use would have been a popular, ordinary part of their culture, they 1) would not be such a corrupt country and 2) would not have been invaded by Russia. In WW2 the Nazis decided to leave Switzerland be. While there were a number of reasons for this, one important reason was that every man (and many women) were well-trained and practice riflemen and militiamen. Everyone had guns and ammo and was ready. There is a famous letter exchange where a Nazi commander taunts a Swiss commander telling the Swiss commander he has twice as many troops as him and asking him what would he do if they invaded. The Swiss commander answered "shoot twice."
Much of the world has suffered from civil wars, "ethnic cleansing" and other genocide. It is estimated over 200 million civilians (this does NOT include soldiers) were systematically killed by their own governments or factions/nearby governments between the year 1900 and 2000. Guess what - these civilians did not own and use weapons regularly. Could any group in the US eliminate another group? It would be an impossible task thanks to the
widespread ownership of guns and ammo in the country. People would defend whichever group was being hunted. Humans in the US aren't as easily hunted and slaughtered as they have been in places like China (at their own hands and at the hands of Japan), Russia, Germany, Rwanda, Cambodia, Cuba, Venezuela, Chile, Argentina, Bosnia, Turkey.
Certainly preventing genocide is a worthwhile endeavor. While we may have to deal with extra crime and terrorist acts/mental illness acts, there are many benefits to gun ownership as well. Even without guns, as the instructor points out, people kill with hammers, bats, knives in a terroristic/mass fashion in other countries. Police cannot be everywhere, and with how badly police reform is needed in the US...would we even want them everywhere? How does one protect oneself when the government goes bad? Guns. It is a human right to be able to protect your own life. One has a right to life, and this includes the right to protect it with effective means. Having so many guns does require us to live up to this responsibility to protect ourselves more than usual, but that is an acceptable tradeoff for preventing genocide, being prepared and preventing war, and ensuring that the People always have the power and not some tyrannical political dictator or oligarchy.
Military service is required in S Korea, so there should be a keen understanding of firearms and firearm safety.
"Police are tyrannical racists who use their power to kill and oppress ordinary citizens!"
"Only police should have guns!!"
Pick one buddy
Is there a police officer stationed in every house?
I'd love to be apart of these gun debates, i know these students are young adults and both sides do great. I watched this and was wanting to answer some of these questions for the tow young men.
Peoples fear of guns is inversely proportional to their knowledge of guns. The less you know about guns, the more you fear them, the more you know about guns, the less you fear them.
An A.R. 15 is not an assault rifle, it is just a small caliber, semi automatic that looks bad ass.
Appreciate this professor being this conversation to a classroom which needs ti happen more often. I don’t agree with the one guy about having a mental health check prior to buying a weapon. We shouldn’t have a prerequisite to utilize a right in the Bill of Rights. No one wants the same logic applied to the 1st, 4th, 5th and so on. Mental health should be addressed in a way it doesn’t infringe on the rights of others.
Excellent conversation about guns and I’m glad you allowed the students answer the questions from their peers.
“How many bowls of Raisin Brand do you have?” “Just for you?”
AR when referencing any AR component firearm refers to Armalite not Assault Rifle!! Armalite began making lighter weight components (stocks, upper and lower receivers) for .223/.556 calibered rifles. The components do NOT change the functionality of the rifle…just make them lighter in weight.
Doesn't seem any of them know much about guns