It is extremely unlikely to be murdered in the US. That's especially true of a random shooting. I've heard the professor say in other videos that what makes the news does so precisely because it is not the norm. That is true in this situation as well.
🤔As a "baby boomer" from the midwest, 1) we had fire, tornado, and bombing drills, but did not have active shooter drills. 2) Rural Minnesota kids could bring their unloaded shotguns and rifles to school, and keep them in their locker, until noon when let out for deer hunting season. It's a whole new world.
When I walk my dog, I may run into bear, coyotes, feral dogs. No one has the right to tell me I have to be vulnerable to attack. As I rarely go into cities, that's the most likely use of firearms for myself. Death by firearm is HIGHLY unlikely in the US. That's assuming you aren't involving yourself in gang life, drugs, out partying in bars. Even 'mass shootings' are largely gang and/or street related. Concealed permit holders are statistically FAR less likely to commit a crime than members of law enforcement.
I'm 70 years old, and these young people are describing what I experienced in America 60 years ago, when the kind of gun violence we experienced now was something you read in a magazine or horror book. I understand their fear of getting shot out of the blue, I also have that fear to some degree. But, I have to remind myself the power that their government holds over them, which my understanding, be it right or wrong, the second amendment was the safety net for us to not be abused and overtaken by our own government. And yes, America is the freest and safest country in all the world because of the second amendment.
Using a single person’s opinion as a representation of their entire country’s view is sophomoric. The idea that America is not “safe” compared to other countries is ridiculous.
@@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594 Violent crime rate has been going down across the board. He's actually not wrong. It's a pretty safe country. Why are criminals disproportionately using stolen or illegal firearms. Why is it that people who own them legally and lawfully should be punished for wanting to defend themselves, hunt or shoot recreationaly. Especially when most crimes are committed using handguns. Which I still wouldn't get rid of just because of the ease of use as self defense tools I'm public. Not to mention recreation. I would rather address poverty mental health and actually ask why? Why is it that people are commiting massacres ( which make up a really small proportion of gun violence) why are crimes of opportunity and gang violence still happening ? But more importantly. Why is it that the American government want to restrict people who follow the laws on the books. While trying to get around the second amendment? Making it harder and harder and pricing out normal people who need it. Turning a right into an expensive hobby for rich guys who can afford expensive toys. Just because they can't actually get a 2/3 majority to repeal it ? I'd question the motivation especially because of the increased militarization of the police.
@@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594 Guess you never learned about June 4th 1989 Tiananmen Square Student Protest held in Beijing China where the Chinese Government rolled out tanks to massacre peaceful protestors? That really showed what happens when a disarmed society dares to stand up to Tyrants and what Democrats would do in an instant if given the chance.
I spent some time in Mohammad's country of Saudi Arabia. I lost 19 fellow airmen there. Say what you will, violence is everywhere. Someone else in the comments pointed out inanimate non sentient items do not choose to kill, people do. With that said I think we should compare apples to apples when talking about violence in different countries. Japan has some of the lowest ethnic diversity in the world. Korea, Syria, Saudi Arabia all have majority uniform culture and very low immigration from other cultures. Here in the U.S. we have a representation of almost every culture on earth. Throw in economic disparities, sexual differences that are not as diverse elsewhere, as well as cultural differences, and what you have is more conflict. Guns do get used in alot of murders but that is simply because of availability. When guns are not readily available knives quickly take center stage. People need to learn to respect one another. If we can't do that your no safer here than a U.S. Airmen sitting in Saudi Arabia.
First we Americans have had the right ti bear arms and have had guns from the very beginning. So us having guns now is not a new concept. When I was in high school, there were a lot of students who had guns in their vehicles parked in the parking lot and I can never remember any school shooting or mass shootings. I understand that we have more people and more guns today, but mass shootings have increased even though we have more gun laws and gun free zones than we had when I was in high school. My question would be what happened over the last 50 or 60 years ago till today that has caused more of these type shootings?? Why does everyone blame the gun and not the person?
I'm old enough to actually remember gun and archery safety classes in school. I also remember mounting my 30-30 in the back window of my pickup truck the day of my 18th birthday.
I graduated in 2002 and we still had firearms in our gun racks at school and nobody would of ever tried a school shooting one because we were just raised better and two everyone knew we all had guns too😂
There are five reasons for an American to possess firearms: 1) hunting, 2) competition, 3) recreation, 4) individual and collective self-defense, and 5) to exercise your civil rights (i.e. because you can).
No number one is Autonomy over ones self and the power and ability (ordained by our creator) to band together with fellow humans to protect ourselves to the best of our ability against forces even or especially our own gov should it go rogue. That was the whole point..
A man living in losangeles coming home from work gets to his front door and 3 guys try to rob him, in his house are his wife and two kids, the man pulls out a pistol and shoots, the robbers run( all on video) what does cal. Authorities do? Confiscate the victoms gun, revoke his concealed carry permit. The three that tried to rob him, are at large. I believe someone with the power to confiscate a gun and or rvoke a concealed carry permit, would be a person that took an oath to uphold constitution when taking a job or being elected to a position. The constitution tells us( us. Citezens) what to do with them
These students from these other countrys for the most part do not have individual rights like we have here in the US. So they are geared to accepting whatever their governments says and if they obey what the government says. They feel safe.
How important is your individual rights? It seem many Americans are willing to accept mass killing to have that little bite more personal freedom than say Sweden. American individual rights seem to Trump any personal responsibility to society as a whole.
I would say this isn’t a fair comparison because I want to know what violent crime is like rather than just gun deaths. Look at the uk for example they have a large amount of knife stabbings rather than gun shots. And a knife wound is more likely to kill you since it slices.
Yes good point, the UK is awash with blood running down the streets and dead bodies. Slicing is so more effective at killing that NATO will stop issuing assault rifles and instead issue sabres.
With all the data quoted, I would be curious to find out how many acts of violence involving guns were committed with an illegally purchased or stolen firearm. I don't think there has ever been a study on that. I know that in my circle of friends and family, those of us that legal firearms would NEVER use them in a crime, of ANY kind. There have been studies that prove that those who have purchased a gun legally or have a CCL, almost never commit crimes with a gun.
Dr. Gary Kleck has published several peer-reviewed studies and written/co-written several books on Defensive Gun use. His data has been out for decades and never refuted nor disproven.
Police chiefs and fbi have done this research as well and I believe that 98% of crimes with guns were obtained illegally. Most are stated because the definitions of gun violence shooting and crime have been changing to drastically increase the number.
@@michaelbarrette2754 But then, if you can legally purchase a gun, it also means your country has a big market for it, making it easy for those people who obtain the guns illegally to get their hands on them in the first place. There would be less gun violence, illegal possession or not, if there was no market for it. Not saying it would disappear, but it would be less commonplace if it was never allowed in the first place.
@@stillfangirlingtoday1468 I don't disagree but using that same logic should we ban the prescription of opioids because we have an opioid epidemic killing 10's of thousands of Americans a year. Of course, the argument to my point is typically that opioids have a needed use and guns don't. To which I'd respond with videos from my house mounted camera that show a mountain lion coming within 20' of our house twice in the last 4 months. Maybe it's was two, maybe it's the same one. But, the point is, not everyone lives in a city. The first time the mountain lion went down to a neighbors place and killed a bunch of their chickens. To get there it passed 3 other houses. I have a black bear den somewhere within 400' of the house. I haven't seen it but I've smelled the bear and seen the carrion. Rural America has predators. Those predators, unlike the predators of urban areas won't be disarmed by the removal of guns.
This convo seems to be geared towards the guns...y'know...inanimate objects that have (to my knowledge) not acquired sentience. It is what is in people's hearts. This could be attributed to social constructs and/or cultural. It has been my observation, that people are loosing the ability to deal with adversity and situations that do not favor an outcome, so they throw a tantrum or worse.
I understand the right to bear arms and the history of gun culture in the US, but with regards to gun violence, the statistics cannot lie. Let’s ask ourselves a simple question: If the right to bear arms was introduced in China, Canada, the UK, Japan, Singapore, Indonesia and Australia, do you think the rate of gun violence would increase or decrease in those countries? Granted, tyranny may be wiped out because of it, but gun violence and murders?
I feel it's disingenuous to compare only gun murdurs. It's obvious more guns generally ≈ more gun murders, but does it cause more murdur? The US has a murdur rate 4x greater than France and the UK. Although probably has a gun murdur rate 25x greater as stated in the video. A more genuine question would be are guns causing the 4x increase.
My perspective is the diversity of America plays a role. Most countries compared to the US are far more homogeneous even ethno states to a degree, Japan for example. Most gun violence in the US is gang related by a huge margin, so we definitely have problems that can be resolved. I'd be interested in hearing a discussion on way to end inner-city gang violence with positive infrastructure. Massive nation wide investment, and I guarantee we would see a massive drop in gun deaths per Capita.
I can answer that right now. nearly 60% of gun violence in america is actually suicides. Its lumped in to influence voters. They also refuse to collect other data, like how often have guns protected people.
Took Sam Richard's Soc 119 class in '94-95ish. All I remember was his long hair that he would flip behind his ears and constantly say "Fuckin' Rock On Man". I would love to sit in on this class 30 years later.
40,000,000 million people were killed in china by the government. 60,000,000 killed in the soviet union. Seems to me governments has killed far more people than guns in america. Cuba Cambodia vietnam korea Venezuela elsalvadore everywhere marxist have disarmed people we have genocide by government. I will take my chances with fire arms.
All those stats were cherry picked. From the sources to the countries used as comparisons. He ignored countries that were WORSE than the US to make an Anti Gun Point. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Yup. As of some 2019 stats I found, the US was 32nd at 3.96. #1 is apparently El Salvador with 36.78. Yes, I saw the US has risen to nearly 7 per 100k from like a 2021 study (thank you pandemic fear mongering) but I strongly doubt it rose up the list much.
Professor, be fair and restate your statistics in a meaningful way. For example, “The average American that is not in a gang, does not visit the inner city areas to buy drugs or prostitution, etc., is 2,500 times less likely to be shot than someone that does”.
I watch these courses with some regularity but this is unwatchable. I don’t think the prof knows he is spreading lies. I think he is socially programmed to view those illegitimate arguments as normal.
14:10 Exactly. Ask these people about Knife crimes. Do they happen all the time? Have you ever or family been a victim? I work with a diverse group of people from India, Nyrobi, Peru, and Nigeria. They all say that knife crime is NORMALIZE and it comes down to what these kids are saying about conflict resolution. The goal is to NOT place yourself in a situation where said knife would be used or threatened. I think that same is true in the U.S. Gun use and Gun crime is normalized.
The professor did mention that the deaths using other weapons were about the same as other countries. It’s only gun related deaths that shows a spike in the US compared to other developed nations. One does not expect to be safe in Yemen, Afghanistan or El Salvador but one expects to be safe in Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, France, etc. To cite 2 examples from last month, somebody in Bowdoin NH shot 20 odd kids in a bowling alley. Someone else in Burlington VT shot 3 kids on the street. Random incident like these aren’t common place in any other developed nation. I think that’s the point the Professor was trying to make. He isn’t against guns per se. He used to be a gun owner and shot guns on a range since he was 6. He is more about gun responsibility and has a few videos covering that too.
Everyone has their own 1st Amendment Rights, to voice their own opinion. ( Going by the Constitution! ) Mine is! I like this teacher, for bringing these students into seeing each other’s opinions!! ( And why “I” also like guns? Is no body else’s business!!! Any record that you look up on me! I’m as clean as a fresh cleaned piece of glass, from both sides! No streak’s!!! “NOTHING”! ( It’s “NOT” about the weapons used.. It’s about the person behind any weapon!! )
The second amendment is not about “shooting guns” or “hunting” the second amendment is about the right of the people, above the government’s interests, to own firearms. The right to own firearms gives the people the ability to protect themselves from dangerous situations and from the government. When it comes to “gun violence” that term is political, we have a gang problem in our country. When it comes to safety, as an American you have the ability to protect yourself with a firearm from these crazy people, unfortunately most Americans choose not to do so and the government has also been diminishing that ability with the unconstitutional gun free zones that have been enacted.
I'm not much older than this professor and I have never experienced a "nuclear drill". I have never even heard of such a thing happening until just a few years ago.
Interesting stat says that we are at 190 out of 193 countries for gun violence but if you remove the 6 inner cities which are blue cities BTW from the numbers we become third in the world in gun violence and deaths. So it is disengenous to paint the whole country with a broad brush of violence from guns.
Gang shootings are a large percentage of these shootings. If you remove the four biggest cities in America then that number drops tremendously and puts the US on par with every other country. There’s also no mention of gun defensive uses which saves far more lives. Many other countries have very strict penalties for gun crimes as well which also deter criminals from using firearms vs America where criminals are back on the streets in a short time.
And also, please, please, please do your students a favor, and when you have these conversations, make sure to implement the statistic on how many defensive uses of firearms occur in a year in the United States of America
I'd argue this is a pseudo intellectual conversation. This presentation is pushing a paradigm rather than offering any fair challenge to any of these ideas. Switzerland has similar gun laws as the US but a totally different crime profile. The US is much larger than many of the countries being compared. The US has a different history as well and the US serves as security for half the world so comparing the US to countries that don't even genuinely have to invest in their own defense more than the bare minimum is a poor comparison. There are lots of well spoken gun advocates out there but the only ones the media shows us are the radical poorly spoken people who aren't representative of the average gun owner. This is a part of a decades long campaign of people trying to push for surrending power to the same government that Liberals claim has disenfranchised and mistreated countless groups throughout all of its history. The professor has students sharing experiences from totalitarian nations as if that is what the US should aspire to... This have you cake and eat it too logic is rampant in liberal arguments while dogma drives conservative arguments. I'm open to real conversations on this topic but I really get upset by presentations like this from either side where they act like they are presenting an objective view when it's obvious they have an opinion on the topic being pushed. I can and have built presentations challenging the sorts of data presented. Data can say anything you want if you don't explain the context and limitations of the data properly in order to make accurate conclusions from the data presented.
I'm all for having a conversation, and I don't know what number of "gun deaths" the professor is going to go with, but I can take an "educated" guess. He's going to use the total number of gun deaths and likely misconstrue that as the number of "gun murders" in the US. The VAST majority, well over 60% of gun deaths every year are suicides (which is a BIG deal, let's not act like it isn't) but in that case guns aren't necessarily sought out for suicide, they're tools of convenience, the gun is already present. An additional but smaller percentage of "gun" deaths are police involved shootings (I think it's usually in the neighborhood of 12-20% per year) the last bracket is made up of both civilian gun "murders" and justifiable homicide (legal self defense) and of the two types in the last bracket the murders are the smallest portion. Now let's look at where the highest percentage of "true" murders happen per year: large inner city population centers (Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles, Detroit). Now what do almost all of these population centers have in common? They have some of the strictest gun regulations in the nation AND areas in those cities that are extremely impoverished. We *KNOW* (FBI crime stats year after year confirm this) that gang violence accounts for nearly 80% of all actual gun "murders" in the US, but why? What is it about gangs that lead to this statistic? The fact that gangs operate where there is usually a large population density to push their product (usually but not always drugs) onto. And these densely populated areas all just happen to be areas where it's nearly impossible to legally get a gun for most people. So we have large amounts of defenseless targets crammed into a small area, and criminals get their guns through illicit means the vast overwhelming majority of the time. "Shooting fish in a barrel" seems like the most apt descriptor to me. Gangs aren't a significant problem outside of major population centers, (not just because guns are more readily available, but also because lower population density isn't conducive to their business model)
You know you're just as dead when you're murdered with a knife, hammer, or bare hands than when with a firearm? Why the obession with method? Stats in this video are wrong, by the way.
I would like to see a chart or some kind of representation on where all those gun deaths in the US happen. I have a feeling that if you stay outside of certain bad areas and situations, the gun deaths and risk drop significantly. Gang shootings and murders in poverty stricken areas of cites, account for a large amount of these deaths. The media sensation of randomly getting shot in a mall or school is the outlier.
I know this is an old post but I want to comment on a couple of things. 1) it was stated that 60 people every 12 hours are killed by a gun in the US. That's about right but it wasn't stated that most of those deaths are suicides and that number includes people shot by cops. 2) Most homicides are the result of gang or drug related activities. Once you remove those deaths from the total your chance of being killed by someone shooting you is very small.
Wow. So much to unpack. I love this professor, but he doesn’t appear to be aware of the illusion of “gun violence” data. Important stats: -How many shootings are justified self defense? -How many are gang related? -How many are suicide? -How many are clearly mental health related?
I love the what would Jesus do/say thing. Here is what he said, and remember in Jesus time there was no gun, so a sword would be the top weapon of choice. Even for the military. Luke 22:36 36 “But now,” he said, “take your money and a traveler’s bag. And if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one! Also... In 2021, highest number of gun deaths per year in the US was recorded, there were 48,183, and out of that 28,328 were suicide, 20,958 homicide and 549 accidental, 537 involved law enforcement, and 458 were due to undetermined circumstances. All data from the Pew Research center. So in the US, out of the 335,618,149 population, you have a .01% chance of being killed by a gun. Those are the numbers, and those show the facts.
Indonesia has very little gun crime. However, they have over 28,000 KNIFE crimes every year. The question is NOT the tool that is used to commit the crime. The question is why do certain portions of a country's population commit violent crimes with guns, knives, and other weapons. FYI, If you think getting shot is worse than being stabbed, you need to visit a few hospital. Knife crime and stabbings have a higher death rate than gun crimes. It is possibly the most BRUTAL way to kill someone.
What was the point? People have a perception based on a narrative, not necessarily reality. The facilitator did point out gun ownership rates but did not draw any conclusions.
3 out of those 5 countries “represented” you can own guns, some of which May be a little bit more difficult to obtain licensing but you still can. It took a quick search and a few minutes of reading to obtain the information. However that being said you can’t blame those kids for not knowing when they had zeros interests in firearms. People’s feelings and opinions mean nothing when talking about law
at 5:50 that slide is including suicides, no? Japan has a higher suicide rate than the US but they don't use guns. Very misleading and only serves as propaganda. Korean Americans who do have access to firearms also don't commit crimes with guns very similar to those who live in Korea. IE its not the guns.
Ya know, those “gun related deaths” statistics are a little skewed and I wish he would have brought up why. Around 2/3 of gun related deaths in the US are suicide related. That is no small thing, and is often overlooked in talks like this. I’m hoping it just wasn’t brought up in this clip of what appears to be a longer segment, but I haven’t watched the entire thing yet, just this portion.
Has he included suicide by Gun in the studies as well? Everything that I’ve seen, from a law-enforcement standpoint, says that he is including suicides in all of these studies. That is incredibly misleading!
My more realistic gun numbers, the US has over 350 million people, I believe well over 100 million of them own weapons, my lived experience tells me I don't know anyone that owns a gun and has less than 5, the average person that I know or have met has anywhere from five to twenty guns. I'm thinking there's closer to well over a billion guns just in the US owned by private citizens. I don't think it does America any good to let any of these superpowers in the world believe that we need to start manufacturing guns to defend ourselves from them.
Between 2 and 3 times as many people win a million or more dollars in the lottery each year compared to those dying in mass shootings. The odds of winning $1 million dollars in the lottery are so low as to be considered 0. How safe you 'feel' based on what you perceive and most people's inability to comprehend very large and very small numbers versus how safe you are in reality makes for a very important distinction. The number of people killed by guns is large, but there are 350 million people in America. It is not #1 in this category when population is factored in. We are number 4. We are number one in gun ownership, and it isn't even close. If gun ownership were at all linked to homicide rates, or even homicide rates with guns, we would run away with this statistic. Further, removing 4 cities from the equation plummets the US position in gun murders per capita to something like 68th. Those 4 cities are some of the most gun restrictive in the country. So that didn't help.
11:15 Once again no guns in Saudia Arabia but do you know what they lots of? KNIFE Crimes. Please ask them about how many times someone is attacked with a KNIFE.
3:50 False framing... "Major Weapons" refers to items such as tanks, armored fighting vehicles, artillery, aircraft, UAVs, and naval ships (also missiles, rockets, and bombs.) This has no relevance to the conversation about gun-violence in America... better suited for a lecture about how US arms manufacturers profit from warfare, and how their powerful lobby influences our foreign policy and military spending.
And to think the colonisers, are the ones that gave you the opportunity to type on your keyboard, drive your car, turn on your lights, talk on the telephone. Thank the colonizers for that n much much more.
09:20 India has over 9000 STABBING deaths per year. Once again why are you talking about the tool when a KNIFE can and is just as lethal as a gun. India in 2021 had a mass knife attack which killed over 19 people. The tool used to commit a violent act is a useless conversation. The only useful conversation is what type of defense can a citizen use to protect themselves.
It seems to me that everytime there is a shooting in USA, the gun lobby says that Americans need MORE guns to protect themselves! So more guns lead to more shootings and more guns are sold! Its a great way to market a product.
@@H3erobrineNotch Do you have any idea how many people guns save? Everyone around me has carried and owned guns my entire life. I only know a few people that have been shot and they were all criminals. I know countless people that have died in car accidents. Murder by gun is rare here. We lump suicides in with murder to inflate the number. The government doesnt want us to have guns. Like your government they want to be the one in control. We make our government work for us.
I have no need for fishing pole yet either. Until there's food shortages again, then I'll wish I had one. You have no need for any tool until the moment you realize you'd be better off having it. That moment may be when you realize the democratically elected leaders lied to you and begin to enforce their will onto the populace. It might also be when someone breaks into your home while you're asleep.
I feel like the ultimate problem lies in WHO was targeted for regulation during the boom of modern gun manufacturing began in the 80’s. The government targeted gun OWNERS with legislation instead of the gun MANUFACTURERS. If the government would have put limits on how many guns weapons manufacturers could produce a year for the domestic market instead of what kind of guns they could produce without limit; it would have raised the price of all guns across the board from the very beginning making weapons less accessible from the start.
We also saw in the 80s some other laws which stripped fathers from their children. If I'm not mistaken, both of the Columbine shooters were raised without a father.
The problem is not the laws or who they targeted. There are several problems here, 1st: the government can’t force a company to only build x amount. 2nd: the government doesn’t enforce the laws they already have, so why the hell would more laws chance that? 3rd: LEGAL gun ownership is also not the problem it’s the ILLEGAL guns that are and the culture in some parts of society that don’t teach their kids the basics of nit breaking the damn law. Guess what happens if your plan happened like restrictions on amount of guns, that will chance nothing people will still buy a gun, the price doesn’t matter but in the end you’re either removing guns from law abiding people while at the same time not changing crap about the illegal guns already in circulation.
Dude, weve been making guns for centuries. I can make a shotgun at home depot right now. You wont stop guns. Theyre present everywhere in the world. The issue is people. Were raising emotional tyrants, meeting their every demand and then were confused why they retaliate when they dont get their way. Nearly every school shooter is transitioning from childhood to adulthood. Every bar shooter seems to be a gay man upset with other gay men. These instances are incredibly rare. the overwhelming majority of gun violence is perpetuated in a few democrat ran cities that actually have more laws than your countries. They arent even allowed shotguns or rifles for sport. These cities have completely outlawed guns and they are by far the most dangerous cities in america. They make up almost 90% of all gun violence. That has to do with a culture that a small minority of black and hispanic people have adopted. fortunately its fading. fewer people want to be thugs today. If you eliminate these few cities from the stat, we have fewer violent crimes than a majority of the world.
What’s comical is they aren’t too afraid or they wouldn’t come to America for their “superior”education opportunities.
It is extremely unlikely to be murdered in the US. That's especially true of a random shooting. I've heard the professor say in other videos that what makes the news does so precisely because it is not the norm. That is true in this situation as well.
Which is why we hear about mass shootings by white people and not black people. We only report the rare instances
Now let's talk about what demographic is committing the vast majority of this gun violence
Yeah, if we remove all murders via gun that are due to gang violence and drugs, the "gun violence" rate drops by a very large percentage.
Black on black inner city gang violence. It's a symptom of fatherlessness.
Cat must have there tongue?
🤔As a "baby boomer" from the midwest, 1) we had fire, tornado, and bombing drills, but did not have active shooter drills. 2) Rural Minnesota kids could bring their unloaded shotguns and rifles to school, and keep them in their locker, until noon when let out for deer hunting season. It's a whole new world.
A brave new world! Shining shimmering demented!
Same here it’s not guns it’s people it’s the moral decay of our society. Don’t know if it’s reversible.
When I walk my dog, I may run into bear, coyotes, feral dogs. No one has the right to tell me I have to be vulnerable to attack. As I rarely go into cities, that's the most likely use of firearms for myself.
Death by firearm is HIGHLY unlikely in the US. That's assuming you aren't involving yourself in gang life, drugs, out partying in bars. Even 'mass shootings' are largely gang and/or street related.
Concealed permit holders are statistically FAR less likely to commit a crime than members of law enforcement.
I'm 70 years old, and these young people are describing what I experienced in America 60 years ago, when the kind of gun violence we experienced now was something you read in a magazine or horror book.
I understand their fear of getting shot out of the blue, I also have that fear to some degree. But, I have to remind myself the power that their government holds over them, which my understanding, be it right or wrong, the second amendment was the safety net for us to not be abused and overtaken by our own government. And yes, America is the freest and safest country in all the world because of the second amendment.
Using a single person’s opinion as a representation of their entire country’s view is sophomoric. The idea that America is not “safe” compared to other countries is ridiculous.
Guess you’ve been watching tucker
@@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594 Violent crime rate has been going down across the board. He's actually not wrong. It's a pretty safe country. Why are criminals disproportionately using stolen or illegal firearms. Why is it that people who own them legally and lawfully should be punished for wanting to defend themselves, hunt or shoot recreationaly. Especially when most crimes are committed using handguns. Which I still wouldn't get rid of just because of the ease of use as self defense tools I'm public. Not to mention recreation. I would rather address poverty mental health and actually ask why? Why is it that people are commiting massacres ( which make up a really small proportion of gun violence) why are crimes of opportunity and gang violence still happening ? But more importantly. Why is it that the American government want to restrict people who follow the laws on the books. While trying to get around the second amendment? Making it harder and harder and pricing out normal people who need it. Turning a right into an expensive hobby for rich guys who can afford expensive toys. Just because they can't actually get a 2/3 majority to repeal it ? I'd question the motivation especially because of the increased militarization of the police.
@@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594 Guess you never learned about June 4th 1989 Tiananmen Square Student Protest held in Beijing China where the Chinese Government rolled out tanks to massacre peaceful protestors?
That really showed what happens when a disarmed society dares to stand up to Tyrants and what Democrats would do in an instant if given the chance.
@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594 all he said can be verified sans TuCkEr. Check with CDC, FBI, Bureau of Crime Stats and so on. CNN isn't a source.
I spent some time in Mohammad's country of Saudi Arabia. I lost 19 fellow airmen there. Say what you will, violence is everywhere.
Someone else in the comments pointed out inanimate non sentient items do not choose to kill, people do.
With that said I think we should compare apples to apples when talking about violence in different countries.
Japan has some of the lowest ethnic diversity in the world. Korea, Syria, Saudi Arabia all have majority uniform culture and very low immigration from other cultures. Here in the U.S. we have a representation of almost every culture on earth.
Throw in economic disparities, sexual differences that are not as diverse elsewhere, as well as cultural differences, and what you have is more conflict.
Guns do get used in alot of murders but that is simply because of availability. When guns are not readily available knives quickly take center stage.
People need to learn to respect one another. If we can't do that your no safer here than a U.S. Airmen sitting in Saudi Arabia.
First we Americans have had the right ti bear arms and have had guns from the very beginning. So us having guns now is not a new concept. When I was in high school, there were a lot of students who had guns in their vehicles parked in the parking lot and I can never remember any school shooting or mass shootings. I understand that we have more people and more guns today, but mass shootings have increased even though we have more gun laws and gun free zones than we had when I was in high school. My question would be what happened over the last 50 or 60 years ago till today that has caused more of these type shootings?? Why does everyone blame the gun and not the person?
I'm old enough to actually remember gun and archery safety classes in school. I also remember mounting my 30-30 in the back window of my pickup truck the day of my 18th birthday.
I graduated in 2002 and we still had firearms in our gun racks at school and nobody would of ever tried a school shooting one because we were just raised better and two everyone knew we all had guns too😂
There are five reasons for an American to possess firearms: 1) hunting, 2) competition, 3) recreation, 4) individual and collective self-defense, and 5) to exercise your civil rights (i.e. because you can).
No number one is Autonomy over ones self and the power and ability (ordained by our creator) to band together with fellow humans to protect ourselves to the best of our ability against forces even or especially our own gov should it go rogue. That was the whole point..
@@jamesb5864 Correct. Everyone seem's to forget about Tyrants.
Your in a gun free zone!!! Why are you afraid? My liberal professor told me to feel this way.
A man living in losangeles coming home from work gets to his front door and 3 guys try to rob him, in his house are his wife and two kids, the man pulls out a pistol and shoots, the robbers run( all on video) what does cal. Authorities do?
Confiscate the victoms gun, revoke his concealed carry permit. The three that tried to rob him, are at large.
I believe someone with the power to confiscate a gun and or rvoke a concealed carry permit, would be a person that took an oath to uphold constitution when taking a job or being elected to a position.
The constitution tells us( us. Citezens) what to do with them
Misleading statistics turns this class into propoganda.
These students from these other countrys for the most part do not have individual rights like we have here in the US. So they are geared to accepting whatever their governments says and if they obey what the government says. They feel safe.
How important is your individual rights? It seem many Americans are willing to accept mass killing to have that little bite more personal freedom than say Sweden. American individual rights seem to Trump any personal responsibility to society as a whole.
And that is the channel’s agenda, to deprive American from basic civil rights in the name of safety and equality.
I would say this isn’t a fair comparison because I want to know what violent crime is like rather than just gun deaths. Look at the uk for example they have a large amount of knife stabbings rather than gun shots. And a knife wound is more likely to kill you since it slices.
Yep. Important.
Yes good point, the UK is awash with blood running down the streets and dead bodies. Slicing is so more effective at killing that NATO will stop issuing assault rifles and instead issue sabres.
With all the data quoted, I would be curious to find out how many acts of violence involving guns were committed with an illegally purchased or stolen firearm. I don't think there has ever been a study on that. I know that in my circle of friends and family, those of us that legal firearms would NEVER use them in a crime, of ANY kind. There have been studies that prove that those who have purchased a gun legally or have a CCL, almost never commit crimes with a gun.
Dr. Gary Kleck has published several peer-reviewed studies and written/co-written several books on Defensive Gun use. His data has been out for decades and never refuted nor disproven.
Police chiefs and fbi have done this research as well and I believe that 98% of crimes with guns were obtained illegally. Most are stated because the definitions of gun violence shooting and crime have been changing to drastically increase the number.
for stolen, someone needs to admit its stolen first before the crime, otherwise, it seems like you gave it to them fully aware...
@@michaelbarrette2754 But then, if you can legally purchase a gun, it also means your country has a big market for it, making it easy for those people who obtain the guns illegally to get their hands on them in the first place. There would be less gun violence, illegal possession or not, if there was no market for it. Not saying it would disappear, but it would be less commonplace if it was never allowed in the first place.
@@stillfangirlingtoday1468 I don't disagree but using that same logic should we ban the prescription of opioids because we have an opioid epidemic killing 10's of thousands of Americans a year. Of course, the argument to my point is typically that opioids have a needed use and guns don't. To which I'd respond with videos from my house mounted camera that show a mountain lion coming within 20' of our house twice in the last 4 months. Maybe it's was two, maybe it's the same one. But, the point is, not everyone lives in a city. The first time the mountain lion went down to a neighbors place and killed a bunch of their chickens. To get there it passed 3 other houses. I have a black bear den somewhere within 400' of the house. I haven't seen it but I've smelled the bear and seen the carrion. Rural America has predators. Those predators, unlike the predators of urban areas won't be disarmed by the removal of guns.
This convo seems to be geared towards the guns...y'know...inanimate objects that have (to my knowledge) not acquired sentience. It is what is in people's hearts.
This could be attributed to social constructs and/or cultural.
It has been my observation, that people are loosing the ability to deal with adversity and situations that do not favor an outcome, so they throw a tantrum or worse.
I understand the right to bear arms and the history of gun culture in the US, but with regards to gun violence, the statistics cannot lie. Let’s ask ourselves a simple question: If the right to bear arms was introduced in China, Canada, the UK, Japan, Singapore, Indonesia and Australia, do you think the rate of gun violence would increase or decrease in those countries? Granted, tyranny may be wiped out because of it, but gun violence and murders?
tantrum LOL sure
I feel it's disingenuous to compare only gun murdurs. It's obvious more guns generally ≈ more gun murders, but does it cause more murdur? The US has a murdur rate 4x greater than France and the UK. Although probably has a gun murdur rate 25x greater as stated in the video. A more genuine question would be are guns causing the 4x increase.
My perspective is the diversity of America plays a role. Most countries compared to the US are far more homogeneous even ethno states to a degree, Japan for example. Most gun violence in the US is gang related by a huge margin, so we definitely have problems that can be resolved. I'd be interested in hearing a discussion on way to end inner-city gang violence with positive infrastructure. Massive nation wide investment, and I guarantee we would see a massive drop in gun deaths per Capita.
I can answer that right now. nearly 60% of gun violence in america is actually suicides. Its lumped in to influence voters. They also refuse to collect other data, like how often have guns protected people.
It’s not. The issue is systemic poverty in a few specific areas.
@@ragnarbaron6090
The poverty is in the mindset, not the system.
Other countries have organized crime that keeps violence away from the general public. The US has violent street gangs.
Comparing countries that don’t have guns, and have a death penalty for drug possession is disingenuous.
I’m curious to know what the penalty of gun crimes around the world are.
Extremely biased data and narrative.
Took Sam Richard's Soc 119 class in '94-95ish. All I remember was his long hair that he would flip behind his ears and constantly say "Fuckin' Rock On Man". I would love to sit in on this class 30 years later.
Very disingenuous & misleading statistics being presented in this class...
40,000,000 million people were killed in china by the government. 60,000,000 killed in the soviet union. Seems to me governments has killed far more people than guns in america. Cuba Cambodia vietnam korea Venezuela elsalvadore everywhere marxist have disarmed people we have genocide by government. I will take my chances with fire arms.
Well PENN STATE is paid by China and affiliated with Joe Biden.
All those stats were cherry picked. From the sources to the countries used as comparisons. He ignored countries that were WORSE than the US to make an Anti Gun Point.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Yup. As of some 2019 stats I found, the US was 32nd at 3.96. #1 is apparently El Salvador with 36.78.
Yes, I saw the US has risen to nearly 7 per 100k from like a 2021 study (thank you pandemic fear mongering) but I strongly doubt it rose up the list much.
@egillis214 which first world countries should he have included?
Professor, be fair and restate your statistics in a meaningful way. For example, “The average American that is not in a gang, does not visit the inner city areas to buy drugs or prostitution, etc., is 2,500 times less likely to be shot than someone that does”.
Jesus would probably say don’t break into peoples houses where their children and spouse is😂😂
The problem with gun control in a nutshell:
Dude from Indoneisa: "Guns are illegal in Indonesia, but I had one."
I watch these courses with some regularity but this is unwatchable. I don’t think the prof knows he is spreading lies. I think he is socially programmed to view those illegitimate arguments as normal.
14:10 Exactly. Ask these people about Knife crimes. Do they happen all the time? Have you ever or family been a victim? I work with a diverse group of people from India, Nyrobi, Peru, and Nigeria. They all say that knife crime is NORMALIZE and it comes down to what these kids are saying about conflict resolution. The goal is to NOT place yourself in a situation where said knife would be used or threatened. I think that same is true in the U.S. Gun use and Gun crime is normalized.
The professor did mention that the deaths using other weapons were about the same as other countries. It’s only gun related deaths that shows a spike in the US compared to other developed nations. One does not expect to be safe in Yemen, Afghanistan or El Salvador but one expects to be safe in Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, France, etc. To cite 2 examples from last month, somebody in Bowdoin NH shot 20 odd kids in a bowling alley. Someone else in Burlington VT shot 3 kids on the street. Random incident like these aren’t common place in any other developed nation. I think that’s the point the Professor was trying to make. He isn’t against guns per se. He used to be a gun owner and shot guns on a range since he was 6. He is more about gun responsibility and has a few videos covering that too.
Everyone has their own 1st Amendment Rights, to voice their own opinion.
( Going by the Constitution! )
Mine is!
I like this teacher, for bringing these students into seeing each other’s opinions!!
( And why “I” also like guns? Is no body else’s business!!! Any record that you look up on me! I’m as clean as a fresh cleaned piece of glass, from both sides! No streak’s!!! “NOTHING”!
( It’s “NOT” about the weapons used.. It’s about the person behind any weapon!! )
Just tell them to avoid Chicago, New York and L.A. 🤣
I would lover take your class!
Lol. He used cherry picker stats as well as set up the entire panel to act as a shaming panel. Got a chuckle out of it
The second amendment is not about “shooting guns” or “hunting” the second amendment is about the right of the people, above the government’s interests, to own firearms. The right to own firearms gives the people the ability to protect themselves from dangerous situations and from the government.
When it comes to “gun violence” that term is political, we have a gang problem in our country. When it comes to safety, as an American you have the ability to protect yourself with a firearm from these crazy people, unfortunately most Americans choose not to do so and the government has also been diminishing that ability with the unconstitutional gun free zones that have been enacted.
I'm not much older than this professor and I have never experienced a "nuclear drill". I have never even heard of such a thing happening until just a few years ago.
Most gun crime is not random.
most gun deaths are self deletes
Interesting stat says that we are at 190 out of 193 countries for gun violence but if you remove the 6 inner cities which are blue cities BTW from the numbers we become third in the world in gun violence and deaths. So it is disengenous to paint the whole country with a broad brush of violence from guns.
Im going to go shooting today.
I need to get some trigger time in. Thanks for reminding me professor.
Gang shootings are a large percentage of these shootings. If you remove the four biggest cities in America then that number drops tremendously and puts the US on par with every other country. There’s also no mention of gun defensive uses which saves far more lives. Many other countries have very strict penalties for gun crimes as well which also deter criminals from using firearms vs America where criminals are back on the streets in a short time.
And also, please, please, please do your students a favor, and when you have these conversations, make sure to implement the statistic on how many defensive uses of firearms occur in a year in the United States of America
Most if not all of those other countries have a zero legal gun owners. So technically, those countries are have MORE gun deaths
I'd argue this is a pseudo intellectual conversation. This presentation is pushing a paradigm rather than offering any fair challenge to any of these ideas. Switzerland has similar gun laws as the US but a totally different crime profile. The US is much larger than many of the countries being compared. The US has a different history as well and the US serves as security for half the world so comparing the US to countries that don't even genuinely have to invest in their own defense more than the bare minimum is a poor comparison. There are lots of well spoken gun advocates out there but the only ones the media shows us are the radical poorly spoken people who aren't representative of the average gun owner. This is a part of a decades long campaign of people trying to push for surrending power to the same government that Liberals claim has disenfranchised and mistreated countless groups throughout all of its history. The professor has students sharing experiences from totalitarian nations as if that is what the US should aspire to... This have you cake and eat it too logic is rampant in liberal arguments while dogma drives conservative arguments. I'm open to real conversations on this topic but I really get upset by presentations like this from either side where they act like they are presenting an objective view when it's obvious they have an opinion on the topic being pushed. I can and have built presentations challenging the sorts of data presented. Data can say anything you want if you don't explain the context and limitations of the data properly in order to make accurate conclusions from the data presented.
I'm all for having a conversation, and I don't know what number of "gun deaths" the professor is going to go with, but I can take an "educated" guess.
He's going to use the total number of gun deaths and likely misconstrue that as the number of "gun murders" in the US.
The VAST majority, well over 60% of gun deaths every year are suicides (which is a BIG deal, let's not act like it isn't) but in that case guns aren't necessarily sought out for suicide, they're tools of convenience, the gun is already present. An additional but smaller percentage of "gun" deaths are police involved shootings (I think it's usually in the neighborhood of 12-20% per year) the last bracket is made up of both civilian gun "murders" and justifiable homicide (legal self defense) and of the two types in the last bracket the murders are the smallest portion.
Now let's look at where the highest percentage of "true" murders happen per year: large inner city population centers (Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles, Detroit). Now what do almost all of these population centers have in common? They have some of the strictest gun regulations in the nation AND areas in those cities that are extremely impoverished.
We *KNOW* (FBI crime stats year after year confirm this) that gang violence accounts for nearly 80% of all actual gun "murders" in the US, but why? What is it about gangs that lead to this statistic? The fact that gangs operate where there is usually a large population density to push their product (usually but not always drugs) onto. And these densely populated areas all just happen to be areas where it's nearly impossible to legally get a gun for most people.
So we have large amounts of defenseless targets crammed into a small area, and criminals get their guns through illicit means the vast overwhelming majority of the time.
"Shooting fish in a barrel" seems like the most apt descriptor to me. Gangs aren't a significant problem outside of major population centers, (not just because guns are more readily available, but also because lower population density isn't conducive to their business model)
You know you're just as dead when you're murdered with a knife, hammer, or bare hands than when with a firearm? Why the obession with method? Stats in this video are wrong, by the way.
I would like to see a chart or some kind of representation on where all those gun deaths in the US happen. I have a feeling that if you stay outside of certain bad areas and situations, the gun deaths and risk drop significantly. Gang shootings and murders in poverty stricken areas of cites, account for a large amount of these deaths. The media sensation of randomly getting shot in a mall or school is the outlier.
I know this is an old post but I want to comment on a couple of things. 1) it was stated that 60 people every 12 hours are killed by a gun in the US. That's about right but it wasn't stated that most of those deaths are suicides and that number includes people shot by cops. 2) Most homicides are the result of gang or drug related activities. Once you remove those deaths from the total your chance of being killed by someone shooting you is very small.
Wow. So much to unpack. I love this professor, but he doesn’t appear to be aware of the illusion of “gun violence” data. Important stats:
-How many shootings are justified self defense?
-How many are gang related?
-How many are suicide?
-How many are clearly mental health related?
I love the what would Jesus do/say thing. Here is what he said, and remember in Jesus time there was no gun, so a sword would be the top weapon of choice. Even for the military.
Luke 22:36
36 “But now,” he said, “take your money and a traveler’s bag. And if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one!
Also... In 2021, highest number of gun deaths per year in the US was recorded, there were 48,183, and out of that 28,328 were suicide, 20,958 homicide and 549 accidental, 537 involved law enforcement, and 458 were due to undetermined circumstances. All data from the Pew Research center. So in the US, out of the 335,618,149 population, you have a .01% chance of being killed by a gun. Those are the numbers, and those show the facts.
Indonesia has very little gun crime. However, they have over 28,000 KNIFE crimes every year. The question is NOT the tool that is used to commit the crime. The question is why do certain portions of a country's population commit violent crimes with guns, knives, and other weapons. FYI, If you think getting shot is worse than being stabbed, you need to visit a few hospital. Knife crime and stabbings have a higher death rate than gun crimes. It is possibly the most BRUTAL way to kill someone.
Wwjd? Since he instructed his disciples to arm themselves, I think the professor might be surprised .
What was the point? People have a perception based on a narrative, not necessarily reality. The facilitator did point out gun ownership rates but did not draw any conclusions.
If it weren`t for the gun you would have Americans sitting in those chairs on stage.
3 out of those 5 countries “represented” you can own guns, some of which May be a little bit more difficult to obtain licensing but you still can. It took a quick search and a few minutes of reading to obtain the information. However that being said you can’t blame those kids for not knowing when they had zeros interests in firearms. People’s feelings and opinions mean nothing when talking about law
It’s funny there worried about getting shot when the real threat is a car or vehicle of some kind.
Our sons fired their first shots at ages 4 & 5.
What would Jesus say about that? What do you mean? Jesus literally promoted his followers having weapons.
Read the Bible sometime.
sell your cloak to get a sword, jesus saying stay strapped
2:50, its not bizarre. Its based on the fact that people had a greater chance of survival if tgeir backs faced the radiation or were under an object.
The statistics are incorrect. India is the second largest gun owning country with over 70 million firearms
at 5:50 that slide is including suicides, no? Japan has a higher suicide rate than the US but they don't use guns. Very misleading and only serves as propaganda. Korean Americans who do have access to firearms also don't commit crimes with guns very similar to those who live in Korea. IE its not the guns.
Ya know, those “gun related deaths” statistics are a little skewed and I wish he would have brought up why. Around 2/3 of gun related deaths in the US are suicide related. That is no small thing, and is often overlooked in talks like this. I’m hoping it just wasn’t brought up in this clip of what appears to be a longer segment, but I haven’t watched the entire thing yet, just this portion.
Europe has a higher murder rate with knives than we do with guns...where are these stats coming from?
You want a real conversation? Ask them who they think will shoot or even hurt them. I bet even they won't tell you what they know to be the case.
Has he included suicide by Gun in the studies as well? Everything that I’ve seen, from a law-enforcement standpoint, says that he is including suicides in all of these studies. That is incredibly misleading!
China, Saudi, India, etc, giving their thoughts on how violent America is, lol
My more realistic gun numbers, the US has over 350 million people, I believe well over 100 million of them own weapons, my lived experience tells me I don't know anyone that owns a gun and has less than 5, the average person that I know or have met has anywhere from five to twenty guns. I'm thinking there's closer to well over a billion guns just in the US owned by private citizens. I don't think it does America any good to let any of these superpowers in the world believe that we need to start manufacturing guns to defend ourselves from them.
gun deaths and gun murders are not the same and a bad stat to use
Between 2 and 3 times as many people win a million or more dollars in the lottery each year compared to those dying in mass shootings. The odds of winning $1 million dollars in the lottery are so low as to be considered 0.
How safe you 'feel' based on what you perceive and most people's inability to comprehend very large and very small numbers versus how safe you are in reality makes for a very important distinction. The number of people killed by guns is large, but there are 350 million people in America. It is not #1 in this category when population is factored in. We are number 4. We are number one in gun ownership, and it isn't even close. If gun ownership were at all linked to homicide rates, or even homicide rates with guns, we would run away with this statistic. Further, removing 4 cities from the equation plummets the US position in gun murders per capita to something like 68th. Those 4 cities are some of the most gun restrictive in the country. So that didn't help.
11:15 Once again no guns in Saudia Arabia but do you know what they lots of? KNIFE Crimes. Please ask them about how many times someone is attacked with a KNIFE.
There us no actual factual basis for his statistics... more guns do not mean more gun deaths
3:50 False framing... "Major Weapons" refers to items such as tanks, armored fighting vehicles, artillery, aircraft, UAVs, and naval ships (also missiles, rockets, and bombs.) This has no relevance to the conversation about gun-violence in America... better suited for a lecture about how US arms manufacturers profit from warfare, and how their powerful lobby influences our foreign policy and military spending.
All introduced with colonisation
And to think the colonisers, are the ones that gave you the opportunity to type on your keyboard, drive your car, turn on your lights, talk on the telephone. Thank the colonizers for that n much much more.
So scared to come over here for an education, get your education in your own country then.
09:20 India has over 9000 STABBING deaths per year. Once again why are you talking about the tool when a KNIFE can and is just as lethal as a gun. India in 2021 had a mass knife attack which killed over 19 people. The tool used to commit a violent act is a useless conversation. The only useful conversation is what type of defense can a citizen use to protect themselves.
Usa is the third largest country. China no rights and a legal,system you wouldnt like.
India, very different culture. Not sure about the legal system.
& R then we said & now kiss your ass goodbye!
Be careful teach
You aren't Ghandi. And he wasn't much
what rubbish, this guys stats are rubbish
From England, I cannot fathom the fascination for guns in the USA!? I have no need for a gun, nor would I want one in my home.
It seems to me that everytime there is a shooting in USA, the gun lobby says that Americans need MORE guns to protect themselves! So more guns lead to more shootings and more guns are sold! Its a great way to market a product.
Exactly! Well said. Where’s there’s no need for something that can cause fatal harm, there’s no need!
@@H3erobrineNotch Do you have any idea how many people guns save? Everyone around me has carried and owned guns my entire life. I only know a few people that have been shot and they were all criminals. I know countless people that have died in car accidents. Murder by gun is rare here. We lump suicides in with murder to inflate the number. The government doesnt want us to have guns. Like your government they want to be the one in control. We make our government work for us.
@@H3erobrineNotch In a world of danger guns are a necessity.
I have no need for fishing pole yet either. Until there's food shortages again, then I'll wish I had one.
You have no need for any tool until the moment you realize you'd be better off having it. That moment may be when you realize the democratically elected leaders lied to you and begin to enforce their will onto the populace.
It might also be when someone breaks into your home while you're asleep.
I feel like the ultimate problem lies in WHO was targeted for regulation during the boom of modern gun manufacturing began in the 80’s.
The government targeted gun OWNERS with legislation instead of the gun MANUFACTURERS.
If the government would have put limits on how many guns weapons manufacturers could produce a year for the domestic market instead of what kind of guns they could produce without limit; it would have raised the price of all guns across the board from the very beginning making weapons less accessible from the start.
We also saw in the 80s some other laws which stripped fathers from their children. If I'm not mistaken, both of the Columbine shooters were raised without a father.
The problem is not the laws or who they targeted. There are several problems here, 1st: the government can’t force a company to only build x amount. 2nd: the government doesn’t enforce the laws they already have, so why the hell would more laws chance that? 3rd: LEGAL gun ownership is also not the problem it’s the ILLEGAL guns that are and the culture in some parts of society that don’t teach their kids the basics of nit breaking the damn law.
Guess what happens if your plan happened like restrictions on amount of guns, that will chance nothing people will still buy a gun, the price doesn’t matter but in the end you’re either removing guns from law abiding people while at the same time not changing crap about the illegal guns already in circulation.
You're literally advocating class warfare.
Dude, weve been making guns for centuries. I can make a shotgun at home depot right now. You wont stop guns. Theyre present everywhere in the world. The issue is people. Were raising emotional tyrants, meeting their every demand and then were confused why they retaliate when they dont get their way. Nearly every school shooter is transitioning from childhood to adulthood. Every bar shooter seems to be a gay man upset with other gay men. These instances are incredibly rare. the overwhelming majority of gun violence is perpetuated in a few democrat ran cities that actually have more laws than your countries. They arent even allowed shotguns or rifles for sport. These cities have completely outlawed guns and they are by far the most dangerous cities in america. They make up almost 90% of all gun violence. That has to do with a culture that a small minority of black and hispanic people have adopted. fortunately its fading. fewer people want to be thugs today. If you eliminate these few cities from the stat, we have fewer violent crimes than a majority of the world.
@@tarn1135 Where do you think the illegal guns come from, illegal ghetto gunsmiths?