Da Vinci Jr 3D Printer: Is this $350 printer worth it?
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I review the Da Vinci Jr, a $350 fully enclosed printer. Is it worth the money, or will it crush everyone's hopes and dreams? Come join me in finding out!
Please leave your questions/comments in the section down below! I'd love to hear what you thought about it!
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Thank you for an honest review!
Thank you brother. You saved me money and time with this review. Thank you.
Thanks for the review!
Thanks, you nailed two important features that nobody else on their reviews highlighted, that is paying a lot for their bad quality filaments, and using their limited slicer tool.
This video saved me lots of time and potentially money!
THANKS BRO FOR THE ADVICE
very clear and helpful!
Thanks for the video, saved me money and time.
Great Review!
Hi there, I have a Jr. And I haven't had any of the problems you've described, I've been nothing but 100% happy with it. I've used the clear, translucent green and black filament. No real issues at all. I have the pearl white filament but haven't tried it yet. I mostly print small detail accessories for my O scale layout, but I've also printed many other things with very good results. This is my first 3D printer, so I'm not as experienced with printing as other people. So I may not know any better! I like your videos, but respectfully don't agree with your review. For my needs, Jr is perfect! I'll probably post a video soon of things I printed. Thank you again!
Thank you for your review! Saved me from buying a used one!
Very very informative review and thank you! You just saved me a whole lot trouble researching if this printer is worth buying.
You are welcome! Thank you for watching!
I havent bought one yet, but thank you for your input.
I love mine
hi there, I was 2 minutes away from buying the da Vinci printer. so thank you for the informative video.
Pretty happy with mine actually. Cost of filament is high, but then again even many pricey printers do not manage filament remaining which this does for every reel very nicely. Internal reel mount is a god send - much better than dodgy external caddies. I just wish you got the NFC chip holder part pre-mounted with each spool - not unreasonable at this price ! Main issue is filament unmount which works only sometimes - if it jams you have to unscrew feed from hot end, "load", wait for temp to drop to 100c, pull. Works fine but kinda a pain - if you snap off in the cold brake inside the head god help you - microtwist drill bits, no cartridge disassembly instructions and much care needed. Fortunately have only had to do that twice and all printers have this issue from time to time. The factory levelling is good, but the default first layer height was not on mine and this is where my first jam came from - best to go a little high and step it down until perfect using their sample part (a small heart pendent). Over all it was a good purchase, and the case with its very nice internal light and the internal frame are very very nice, very portable and better than most printers 3 times the cost.
On a final note - yes the slicer is a "bit pants", but have you ever tried to use so called "simplify 3D" for the first time? Gods ... overwhelming ... and the silly XYZ slicer actually works well with this printer "on default" and then you can slowly play from there. I also use Microsoft 3d builder most of the time - it really is the underrated (and free) "iMovie" of 3d :)
I have the same problems as you. I just had to open up my gearbox to find that a couple gears were shot. :(
My neighbor figured out how to use whatever filament just by taking the chip out.
This guy is WAY to advanced
I think things has changed since this video.
You can now use gcode (converted to da Vinci format, see video on youtube).
You'll also find how to reset the filament counter on TH-cam, allowing you to have a printer for 350$ while using any filament you'd like.
Good video, I considered one of these before building my Sunhokey i3 which with my upgrades edges this out on prints.
As mentioned already they can be reflashed which sorts not being able to use normal slicers and takes off the restriction of using their filament.
I own a xyz venci jr 1.0 i love it even my benchy was great besides some stringing
There is actually a work around with the filament. There is a way to reset the chip and make the printer think you are using any color with any length left. I use a big roll of hatchbox pla on my jr, and when it says it is low, I reset the chip.
Thanks for the suggestion, Murdoc! Directions available anywhere?
+Dennis Desmarais m.instructables.com/id/XYZ-Da-Vinci-Junior-jr-NFC-Tag-Filament-Reset-Hack/?ALLSTEPS
Many thanks, Man!
I got the Da Vinci JR 1.0 3 in 1 yesterday. The PLA filament keeps breaking on me half way through a build...
I converted some of my .stl modles to .3w in XYZware and they still don't show up on the SD card.
SO whats the best 400$ beginger printer that one should buy fros tarting out? Looking to investing in first one for rc parts etc
I made 3 good prints in a row with the black filament on this machine, although i did have the jamming problem, which turned out to be a melted end on the filament, so it was fixable
I got one second hand about 80 hours on it for one hundred dollars with a full real of p l a I'm doing good I'm happy great prints I'm 5 spools in and I'm getting good
I keep getting a 030 error code on my Da vinci jr 1.0, what do I do?
I wish i would of seen this video over 6 months ago before i purchased my XYZ Da Vinci Jr 1.0 printer because I had no idea about only being able to use thier Filament. Only until about 4 days ago when i wnet to go buy a differnet filament and could not find any then investigated only to find out it has a chip in thier spool. I have seen on E-Bay that a seller is selling some 3D printed chips that read a fool spool so you can use any brand spool have you seen them and would you recommend them?
As to the filament, what respooling the empty xyz spool with aftermarket filament?
Thank you for the review on their filament. I live in a remote country (New Zealand) and XYZ filament is one of my locally available options. I will avoid it now!
I got the DaVinci Pro on preorder for $550 an I have to say I was unimpressed at first, but now I love it. Since it is completely unlocked I can use the filiment I want saving money and Slic3r with better setting control and multi-threaded slicing. The XYZWare is only single threaded so my CPU was pegged at 12.5% (i7), now it goes to %100 and takes ones of seconds. I have found my DaVinci printer has excellent print quality, I cannot complain at all. The major downside is you have to print very slowly. I have the thing set to 40mm/s maximum for infilling. exterior perimeters at 30 and interior at 35. It takes forever but I am overall pleased. It features the off-board bowden style extruder which is great for vibration and accuracy b/c the print head is light, however oozing does require some post-processing with a scraper.
My wife got one of these through goodwill of all places. Wasn't working at first, had to replace the power adapter that came with it with a proper one. And had to fix the connecting rod for the z-axis. But I got it to print fine after some calibration. For the price she paid and for a couple spools from amazon, I'm very happy so far with my first 3D printer.
My question is, once I've hit the limits on what I can get out of this one, what are your current recommendations for printers in say the $500- 1K range? I'm not opposed to building it myself, and something that gives me more flexibility in printing materials and even multiple extruders would be ideal.
how about hack the cartridge vie NFC and using 3rd party filament? Do you still recommend this printer?
Can you print screws with this printer?
Got one for Christmas. Mine is the teal one w/wireless. Have had problems with computer talking to printer, and taking the print off the bed. Don't like the tape sheets, because they tear removing the print.
I'm not a big fan of the tape print surfaces either, they are quite easy to tear. Luckily its easy to replace with normal blue painters tape, and its relatively inexpensive.
Sorry to hear about the wifi problems though, I have the Da Vinci 1.0 pro, which has wireless connection as well, and I haven't had issues connecting besides IP addresses changing each time the printer turns on.
How's the print quality for you? Any issues with bad filament that I experienced with my jr?
Either I'm learning quickly (or have an excellent tutor) or my luck is changing! LOL. Still haven't figured out how to use the wireless feature, but yesterday I got the printer to see the computer and print a small sign without the chip. Had good luck with using a glue stick on top of the tape sheet. Had just a minor tear which I taped over for my next attempt. Neither my friend nor I have had trouble with the filament. He's used a bunch of different colors, I'm still on my first reel of white.
thanks for you review it is been very helpfull ......any printer that fit same budget ??
Yes, we have one designed for beginners which cost about $500. Very easy to operate, comes with everything you need and has already been calibrated at the factory. We even include PLA filament 1kg and a MicroSD card with preloaded model files, so you can start printing right out of the box. The compatible software is Cura so you can customize the model. Feel free to contact me for more details pls. Thank you so much. Email: zoe@et3dp.com
I also dont like they way you have to calibrate the XYZ Da Vinci Jr 1.0 took me forever to finaly get it to print the way i wanted after manyattempts at calibrating it. I also took their tape off and just used a small amount of stick of glue it works alot better but i also used a differnet filament using thiers might also have been the reason why my prints didnt come out as good.
For my first 3D any recommendations
Now this printer is $259 on Amazon. So it might be a better deal.
$169 on Newegg. Oh yes its a better deal.
i have a 1.0 and i flashed repetier on to it it works wonders now
+Cian Govern I've heard that helps wonders, and it would resolve many of the issues I have with these printers.
+Hoffman Engineering its a little risky cuz theres a chance you can completely destroy the printer but if you can get it to work its well worth it
Hi, do you have the Junior 1.0? I'd be happily surprised if it can be flashed at all.
+Royce Barber no i have the original 1.0 the very first printer they had
+Royce Barber and i think it can its the same sorta process the mpthermoboard is just a fancy arduino
I’ve had this printer since Christmas. About 90 hours of printing with very mixed results. I’m so tired if the nozzle jams that take forever to clear. I even do it before every run. It’s so slow to run through its paces before heating up the Extruder to even clean it. I can’t for the life of me get the bed leveled having watch just about every TH-cam video on the topic. Bought Simplify3D as they now support the device. Not having much luck that either. So ready for an upgrade now.
I have this printer and it jams so much that its to the point where I haven't touched it in months. Also, I have the black and clear filament and the black jams. not the clear as much. The printer also likes to jam while trying to load in filament. Its a struggle. I got it for $250 though at barnes and nobles
Next time it jams, run your fingers over the last couple feet of filament and see if you can feel the diameter changing. When I've experienced jamming, I could feel a bump in the filament which prevented it from being able to fit through the extruder. If so, definitely contact XYZPrinting and see if you can get a replacement cartridge.
it just jammed this morning. There are indents from the gears but thats about it.
Alright and I'm posting a video of the horrific sound it makes and it jamming.
Hi Chris , First off your channel is awesome. Surprised you only have 3500 subscribers. You have a serious talent for teaching and demonstrating. Want to say thank you so much. Enjoy learning with you. There is one little problem though. You are to polite LOL. This product SUCKS!!! There you go lol I said it for you. I would love to see how you utilize the Design Spark soft ware to operate the 3d printer. Speak slowly, .... I'm old lol
Have a great day
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! This community is growing day by day, I'm always exciting to see more people join! I'll also definitely put your suggestion on my list, I've been meaning to do a video on the full workflow from CAD to finished product. Thank you!
And I'll let you in on a secret, I may have had to revise my script a few times to reach the level of politeness in this video!
I’ve just had one bought for a Christmas present. I was feeling very excited until I heard your review. I was hoping to make little dolls boots and shoes and other miniature items. I’ve seen the internet flooded with tiny shoes which are costly to buy. Wondering if they have been made on a printer. I’ve only one cartridge at present in white, sad the black is crap. Thanks for your opinion.
Do you mind saying which are the printers that you recommend for that budgeting plan?
Can you tell us what machine you would recommend for a first time user?
Thank you for the review! I know this video is over a year old, I came *THIS CLOSE* to buying a DV JR printer, but they lost me with the file format and the f'ing XYZ only filament, that sounds like it's crap.
Thanks for watching! XYZprinting has a new version of the Da Vinci Jr, called the Da Vinci Jr Pro, which removes both the filament and silcer restrictions. I haven't played with one myself, but the Jr itself was a solid machine, it was just the filament I really had an issue with. Might be something to look at.
I'm looking at the Anet A8 printer.
The filament price isn't even too bad ($25-30) compared to its price today ($170.)
All 3D printing measurements should be metric. Consider the FlashForge Finder mines incredible :P
you mention no artifacts when changing layer heights. is that something you can only do by generating gcode from another slicer? I don't see that option in the XYZ software.
Ty for the review, what would be your best choice for a starter 3D printer from 500$ or lower?
Yes, we have one designed for beginners which cost about $500. Very easy to operate, comes with everything you need and has already been calibrated at the factory. We even include PLA filament 1kg and a MicroSD card with preloaded model files, so you can start printing right out of the box. The compatible software is Cura so you can customize the model. Feel free to contact me for more details pls. Thank you so much. Email: zoe@et3dp.com
so would you use pla filment?
The .3w is standard gcode
you mention that there are other options in this price range but didn't mention any, what would you suggest for your first 3d printer?
what do you use for 3d scanning?
Does the 3D design software work under linux?
Great video. What software do you use to edit your videos?
+Panoreth 3D Printing Thank you! I use Sony Movie Studio 13, its a very good price for the functionality it provides!
I have one of those, it’s been nothing but a nightmare. I can’t get a good print on it, there’s little to no support or help to figure out troubleshooting, and it’s been collecting dust for about a year.
You can get this printer for $300 dollars on amazon.
for the same price you can get a creality ender 3 s1 pro a top of the line printer with .12mm layer hieght!!
Yup! Back in 2016 this is what "inexpensive entry level" looked like. It's amazing how far machines have come, where $350 is the price of a great "pro" printer these days.
I honestly haven't had a bad experience with the filament other than it being expensive
The roll that worked printed just fine, but the other rolls were just way too out of tolerance. Maybe they tightened their manufacturing in the two years since then.
can you just buy other filaments and just put them on the spool correctly?
Elizabeth Flanagan unfortunately not, there is an RFID chip in the spool that keeps track of how much filament has been used. You would have to build something to reset that chip as well.
you can use a different slicer.
Very nice review! I'm looking into buying a 3D printer of my own to make prints from my original 3D models from zBrush. I've had my eye on this printer for a long time, buy hearing your review has made me think to maybe shop around a bit more. Would you be able to recommend a printer in the $400 price range that isn't to expensive on the filaments? I'm not really interested in a full enclosed model either...
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Stevi Dunn I have a wanhao i3 it is super for 300 quid
Just to be clear to everyone this review is so old that XYZ updated their firmware and software that it has way more options of filament. That being said they have obsoleted this version for other new versions a few times over.
Hello, thanks for the review. I am looking into getting a 3D printer, but my budget is limited, besides XYZ, what brand would you recommend?
Hello, we have one designed for beginners which cost about $500. Very easy to operate, comes with everything you need and has already been calibrated at the factory. We even include PLA filament 1kg and a MicroSD card with preloaded model files, so you can start printing right out of the box. The compatible software is Cura so you can customize the model. Feel free to contact me for more details pls. Thank you so much. Email: zoe@et3dp.com
274 dlls amazon
What are some of the lower priced printers that would be great for hobbyist?
depends on your budget you can pre order 101hero for about $99 there is this printer 350 or Amazon 299 then the Jr wifi same price i think and soon to be jr in 3 in 1 which is lazer engraver 3d scanning and 3d printer for pre-order for $545 the moving away from xyz you have the Wanhao i3 v2 $450 ish (and all of it Chinese rebrands) and the robo3d r1 plus for about $700 but I'm sure there many others out around those prices but if you can afford more there is more options to choose from
Thank you. Is there one that will be best for detailed printing?
+Xavier Jennette what's your price range ?
+pat ayala I'm prepared to spend at least $700 to $1000.
+Xavier Jennette personally I like my robo 3d r1 plus for the price really good quality a about $700 but here's a link that compares other printers about that price range 3dforged.com/best-3d-printers/
@Hoffman Engineering I just posted the video of it jamming for no reason ;-;
I hope someone figures out a way to hack that thing.
I'm looking for a full color printing for our locations, If you are interested in helping us, we would like to print 5k prosthetic covers and casts a year for kids and help push out the KIDBucks program.
400 micron layers?
+modeem352 Correct, their slicer had presets for 0.1mm, 0.2mm, 0.3mm, and 0.4mm layer heights. That goes against the usual rule-of-thumb of max layer height of 80% your nozzle diameter, but it actually printed with 0.4mm with no problems.
Nice review. There's something to be said for simplicity, but the quality that these produce isn't great. It's a bit of a shame that Barnes & Noble is displaying and selling these in their stores since I feel like it might turn people off to 3D printing.
It's close source
you can always strip it naked of their circuitry and put a ramps in there. Stepper motors all work the same way, unless they are using unipolar ones would would be a pita and would require you to open them and separate the winding to make them bipolar.
The same can be done to any 2D printer out there. With and arduino/microcontroler and a bit o patience you can turn any 2D printer into a plotter or whatever you like. Even if it uses an optical encoder for the carriage.
Just get it on amazon.
costs less.
As I'm seeing this he has 5555 subs am I lucky?
That you are! Luckier than I, I missed getting a screenshot of that!
Is this a 3D printer for beginners?
Luca Borghi Yes. It is for beginners. I have this printer. I am also considering upgrading soon to a better printer
We have one designed for beginners which cost about $500. Very easy to operate, comes with everything you need and has already been calibrated at the factory. We even include PLA filament 1kg and a MicroSD card with preloaded model files, so you can start printing right out of the box. The compatible software is Cura so you can customize the model. Feel free to contact me for more details pls. Thank you so much. Email: zoe@et3dp.com
I'm coming from an open source prusa type printer and the "drm" is bullshit
Anycubic i3 is $325.00 or less.
Which is much better.
but is this printer good for beginners like me
hi. well as we can see on the video : even with the yellow spool the print quality is average but not good at all. overhangs are not clean.
+Axel Sixtysix Certainly passable, but you are correct, the overhangs are slightly droopy, corners are not crisp. It could definitely use a fan to cool the object, especially since it is PLA only.
So what is something that prints 5.9x5.9x5.9 for this price that uses universal filaments? They're under $200 now.
"There are quite a few other options in this price range," then goes on to not mention a single one!
havent been able to print anything. object comes off tape and slides around with head.
Try using stick glue with a light coating on the tape
+DrFrankensteam thanks i will.
crayola washable with a few streaks.
You need to calibrate the printer.
+Nick Riley gigured it out use glass not tape with stick glue
3:41 -- You must use XYZ filaments and spools... --
And that's where XYZ lost a potential customer. Didn't bother to watch this review after this.
Its true, this model is so cheap because they expect to turn a profit over on the filament. They have other models, like the Da Vinci 1.0 Pro which can use other filament, but is more expensive than the Jr to compensate.
Exactly the same I was going to pop down Marlins and thought check TH-cam .... Saved £299 thanks
Same here.. f***k that
if the filamet was high quality
But what’s stopping you from just winding your own filament on to one of their spools?
The file format you mention in the video is just a renamed gcode file.
here is an article on that.. hackaday.com/2014/04/17/using-non-crappy-software-with-the-da-vinci-printer/
There is another software package that works natively with the full line of davinci's
Simplify 3d...
for the JR... you can reset the filament counter to use 3rd party filament like you can with the big Davinci's:
www.instructables.com/id/XYZ-Da-Vinci-Junior-jr-NFC-Tag-Filament-Reset-Hack/
but you have to use a back level firmware according to the forums....
Another good sub $500 printer that has all the features without the proprietary filament issues is the Wanhao I3..... though to print ABS you really should have an enclosure for it...
Great post though....
Thank you for those links, those are perfect!
you are quite welcome... =) anytime I can be of help just let me know... (in jax lol)
haha beat me to it I was gonna say the same thing
if i saw thta printer in real life i would smash it to pieces jsut for having proprietary filament . PISSES ME OFFFFFFFF
Thank you very much for your review you have helped me decided not to buy this printer have you heard or reviewed the Monoprice MP Select Mini Pro 3D Printer
I could never complete a 3D-printout with this machine. The filament stucks in the dispenser, the feeder cuts the filament, the printer stops dispensing and turns empty figures in the air. It's worth nothing!
did you setup the z axis. Once you get this sorted its pretty good.
Thanks for asking.
I did a lot of work on this printer in the meantime. Unfortunately I do not have any pictures for documentation.
I lowered the pressure on the feeder mechanism by reducing the tension of the spring. It had a force of about 3 kg. This high tension causes the stepper motor to block, if only a small amount of higher force is required, to feed the filament - hearable as a "clack, clack, clack" with an optical vibration of the filament at the same beat.
I lowered the tension to about 300g, by the use of a screw driver to increase the spacing of the springs windings. The feeder is located on the upper left side of the printer. The half of the case has to be unmounted, to be able, to reach it.
The force is estimated by the pressure force on the thumb, to move the feeders leverage.
I also lowered the pressure of the springs in the filament detectors, to allow a smoother guiding trough. There are two detectors, one in the filament feeder, one in the extruder head. To do this, I took the springs out, pulled it to the double of the original length, cutted it in the half and sat it back in.
It is a bit tricky, to open the extruder head. I broke some fasteners out.
I had to fix the entry for the filament on the extruder head with a nylon washer, mounted under the fixation, to thighten it. It was loose and caused a misleading of the filament on entering the extruder.
The metallic cone inside the extruder head had some sharp edges, where the filament was jammed mostly. After smoothening it a bit, the filament was sliding trough without any problems.
Now it prints perfectly.
@@dschony excellent. This review is pretty dated and missing some facts. You do suprise me with all the things you had to do. I know the clack clack noise but I found that this on most of the Jr's I've seen was always because the feed tries to feed too close to the bed or the last layer. I'm not doubting you either just you can't believe most of this review as it's misleading.
The clack clack comes from the feeders stepper motor, which is stepping back one step with each clack. The reason for stepping back is always a filament jam. There are two possible reasons for a jam: 1. Something prevents the filament going trough the nozzle (maybe something in front of the filament, like the bed ...). 2. A problem in the feeder loop (like to high forces of the springs and other mechanical problems).
It's not
His down side caused me to not buy this :/
I purchased one a few weeks ago for business purposes. I found that the quality was extremely poor. Needless to say, it was returned for a refund. I fine that the da vinci mini produced a better print then the jr.
I find the quality is very good. What they fail to explain well is the setup process. Actually as someone who started out here and now uses these commercially reguarly its really not that bad.
1.0 looks best. Junior ugly
Garbage don't buy