"We used to do it all the time with you, and you turned out fine, right!" "I'M A FAT COMEDIAN WHO GOES UP ON STAGE AND TALKS ABOUT HIS DICK INFRONT OF STRANGERS MOM, NOTHING ABOUT ME IS OKAY!!"
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat Parental arrogance is a strong thing. Some people will think they know everything just because they “experienced the pain of parenthood.”
What I'm actually hearing is that Pat is super strong and tough. Because his mom did all the things that should have led to SIDS and he tanked every bit of it. Pat is operating at peak performance.
Part of it is lead poisoning, and the other part is just massive shifts in prices of things that are invisible if you are old. Every time my parents give me life advice or career tips, it’s nonsense because they’ve both been retired for 15 years. The world they lived in no longer exists and they have not experienced the new one.
My wifes grandma- The kids just don't want to work in this neighborhood I use to help chop firewood for a few bucks. Me- (internally) chop firewood where the only trees for 10 miles are for decoration. What is a few bucks worth in 2023 a 10 spot? (Externally) yeah that's wild.
Gosh, it’s going to be hilarious if Pat somehow is still online by the time his kid is trying to find a career. He and Paige will not be able to help him at all if he doesn’t try to be an influencer
Fun Tidbit: There's a minor theory the reason the Fallout universe is so violent in their alternate history isn't only the 50's patriotic aesthetic stagnating, but also the fact lead exists in loads of miscellaneous items like pencils, toys, and paint all the way up to 2077. Which may mean the discovery of lead being toxic and effecting the way people think maybe wasn't widely publicized or just flat out dismissed because of resource shortages making alternate builds an after-thought.
There was a *very* clear link attributed between the banning of leaded gasoline, and a strong drop in crime rates, 20 years later. So when the first generation unexposed to airborne lead came of age.
There's a 15 year age gap between me and my younger half siblings, and I'll never forget get my Dad casually saying after a parenting class before they were born "Wow there's just so much I didn't know!" I am his 3rd child, he was 22 years into fatherhood by that point.
In Italy the warning notices on cigarette packets also have accompanying pictures and I saw one of a mom smoking O rings right into their toddlers face and I couldn't help but bust out laughing thinking about Pat's mom blowing smoke directly into Pat's baby face as he's bawling and coughing and saying to herself "oh my poor baby has a terrible cleft" *puff*
Well if you knew you fucked multiple generations of people, and they knew, and they're pointing it out to you angrily, yeah I could see you getting upset
IIRC the really insidious thing about lead poisoning is that the lead binds to your bones and will stay inert for decades, but then can be released into the bloodstream again when bone decalcifies. Say, for example, when an elderly person experiences osteoporosis.
Would you look at that, my step mother who has been diagnosed with that is insanely irritable and constantly excuses their own shitty behaviour. Could just be assholes get osteo, or maybe getting osteo makes you an asshole?
Pat's entire life seems to be balancing his Souls poison, toxic, and durability meters, and has been constantly tetering between just shy of being full and "PAT AT RISK" appearing above his head for the past 30 decades He and Paige really are meant for eachother, holy shit
@@JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski pat and paige are bizarro reality versions of each other, and Pat 2 is going to end up with all of the strengths of them but none of the weaknesses
@@JetPoweredCloudCrazy Talk's substand is a reverse Wonder of U that will alter fate to ensure Pat survives any calamity but it'll still fuck him up long term
As a person born in the mid 90s we absolutely learned about the hole in the ozone layer. The space shuttles were getting launched and so that made the layers of the atmosphere a topical lesson. There was even a diagram in a textbook about of how the recovery had begun.
As a person born in the 80s like Woolie and Pat, we heard all about how the ozone layer had a hole in it and how awful CFCs were. But by the time the recovery had begun, most of us were out of school or beyond the point in our curriculum where it would be talked about in a class. So basically we got the horrible first half of the story but no resolution to it.
@@NEEDbaconthere recently was some news that a bunch of chemical waste was being burned off in China, which set the recovery back by years. But overall it's in a pretty stable situation
Appropriate to the eventual title of this podcast episode. My grandma told my sister for her babies that she should use corn starch instead of baby powder because it treats diaper rash. Later we found out that doctors tell you not to do that because the starch might have bacteria in it that usually gets killed in cooking, so using that powder might cause a yeast infection in girls.
Baby powder is actually made of cornstarch, because the alternative (talcum powder) can potentially give you cancer later in life. I would imagine they just take extra steps to make sure it's sanitary enough for infant use.
Pat may eat cat hair, doesn't like food to mix at all, can only hear his own voice in his head, and can't replay songs 1:1 in his mind... ... But he ok now :)
A little while ago, during the time where baby formula was hard to get, there was a Facebook post on my feed kinda braggin about how "back then" they used water and flour if the baby was hungry. How does no one sane immediately see how dangerous that is? Sure the baby isn't "hungry" but it's severely malnourished!! That's the most *crucial* time for children to receive as much nourishment as possible for healthy brain and physical development. It's the _worst_ time to throw them bread and water and go "See it stopped crying. It MUST have worked!" People underestimate how stupid and uninformed people who grew up in "their times" were.
I don’t think they would defend it back then even. If there was no other option, what were you supposed to do, let the kid starve and have even more likely chance of dying?
@@gameb9oy You don't "think" they would back then, yet we still here people do it now when that's not the _only_ option available. People 'til this very day, will proudly tout the _wise_ medical advice their great grandmother has given them while the information has already been deemed outdated. You can't say you don't _think_ people would react a certain way while people are _currently_ posting "😂😂😂ya'll complaining about shortages but back in my day, we used to just do xyz 😂😂😂" as well as the fact that most of us are Gen X or millennials who have lived through it. My friend survived a damn seizure as a baby because her incompetent ass mother gave her water...water... because of whatever reason she thought justified it. Is it worth saying "the baby is hungry so what else am I supposed to do" when you're the one actively harming the child? And this still doesn't address how they're still severely malnourished and their growth is affected, then they're blamed for their own shortcomings as they come into the world.
The actual danger of feeding a baby water and flour slurry is that raw flour can contain salmonella and E. Coli. There's been several salmonella outbreaks connected to raw flour, even this year. Always cook your flour.
@@Toastybees It's also the same with honey. I know some people either use honey or drinking alcohol on their baby's gums when they started teething. Don't really think that's the best idea.
The average human will learn jack and shit about nutrition. This has been the case for all of human history. That is how utterly brain dead the average person is. People cannot understand the concept of calories or macro nutrients. All you have to do is look at the steadily increasing obesity rates and the UNBROKEN CHAIN of fad diets women come up with to lose weight since time immemorial.
Turns out the only reason Pat's family is so short is because they were all taught to raise children badly as a Prank. Pat breaks the cycle due to having gone to college.
@@turbostrike1632 the point of this whole debacle is that common sense isn't always good enough. Sometimes you need to actually check that you're right, or better yet find someone who's already checked and listen to them.
The truly fiting ending to the leaded gasoline story, is that the dude ended up semi-paralized from lead exposure, and died when the machine he built to get in/out of bed strangled him
@@psykomancer4420 He singlehandedly caused more damage to the environment than any other human in history. He actually really was a cool dude and made active efforts to fix the damage, but there's a reason he was called an environmental Genghis Khan in the mid-nineties.
@@psykomancer4420I think he rescinded any being called a nice person when he chose the anti knocking additive that was well documented before his time to be toxic because it would be cheaper than the alternatives. And then marketed it without mentioning the lead
My granddad likes to keep an open garbage can near his garage and he tells me it’s to collect rainwater. Considering he’s from the lead generation, I’m not going to bother explaining to him why it’s a bad idea.
Humans? You mean industrial capitalists. Four thousands of years humans were doing fine, it wasn't until industrialization that this shit happened AND the truth was hidden by companies, like studies done in the 70s by big oil companies that showed how messed up it was getting but decided to hide it to protect their profits.
@@jacobsmith4428 This is why the line at the end of Extra Credits' series on the South Sea Bubble always stuck with me when I heard it for the first time: "This is a good lesson. I hope we learn it someday." The major issue that they covered in that series - an economic bubble bursting due to over-evaluation and extreme speculation of the early 18th century South Seas Company which was built on lies and nothing - is just something that happens over and over again and no one with power in business ever learns from it. And of course, it's far from the only issue that cycles throughout history too.
While I'm not a boomer, I was COMPLETELY oblivious to lead paint EVEN BEING A THING MANG. This was truly educational, and now I'm just baffled. But I guess this was another "we smoked before we even had a clue it would affect us badly"-type story of ye olde eldrich history. Thanks on shining attention to this Woolie & Pat, truly educational podcast, holy shit.
In my elementary school there was lead paint on the walls and they warned us not to pick at it but the more they told us not to do it more we did it. Especially in the bathroom where there wasn't any teachers watching. I was born in 93
Of you think that's bad? The Victorians used arsenic in makeup and wallpaper. Under the right circumstances, the arsenic could vaporize and you would breathe it in.
If you want to be even more baffled, since lead often has a sweet taste, there was a time (like long, LONG ago) when lead was used as a sweetener in things like wine. It's also partially why lead paint was such a problem, because kids loved to chew on it and eat the sweet paint flakes.
3:30 "Eat food until you're not sad any more" It's all fun and games until depression kicks in and you're eating all day c: Don't worry though! The scale will make things way worse later! c: This totally isn't a spiral
Fun fact, when leaded gasoline and freon inventor Thomas Midgley Jr. contracted polio in 1940 and was left severely disabled, he invented a pully system to get himself out of bed, which he got caught in and accidently strangled himself to death.
The Romans spread the idea that lead was the best material for plumbing, so for more than 1000 years, all the biggest warring civilizations, including England, Spain, France and Germany have had lead poisoning. And our grandparents say millennials are the problem because we're too sober and soft :D.
as I am working a retail job, Boomer lead stare is such a real thing. you have to actively keep yourself from thinking less of the average older person due to how much boomers and older millennials act like legit NPCs all the time.
At this point im inagining anyone with lead to basically have the butchers nails from warhammer 40k inside them. Just randomly at one point the lead kicks in and makes them angry for no reason.
god i have this problem with my mother constantly. shes a firm believer that being unsanitary helps to build your immunities, and "MY mom did it this way and WE didnt die!"
It actually does the reverse. The immune system is like a resource that gets drained the more often it's used. This is why repeat cold, flu, and cvid infection is not a good idea.
I have hypoglycemia so I get very emotional or anxious over nothing very easily if I'm a few hours behind on eating a meal. I also have to be careful to not have too much sugar because then I also become an emotional asshole when my blood sugar drops. This happens for normal people too just not the my extreme, so much so that there's an acronym in the mental health community you use to check in on yourself when you're feeling it and it's called HALT and H stands for hunger. I don't know it by heart but it's basically, have you eaten, have you drank any water, are you feeling lonely or tired?
As a toddler a special "sometimes" snack wasn't cookies or chocolate, it was a slice of ciabatta bread soaked in red wine and with sugar sprinkled on top. How I still have a liver is beyond me 😂
It's like being so hungry that it hurts too much to eat. Try anti-acid/anti-acid reflux meds, they help, not a cure. We will die with our curse or pass it into our children.
Very ironic that the time it's hardest to eat is when you are the hungriest, moments where you wonder how it would be to be like a snake that eats a whole pig and can chill for a month
Oh man, i see that stare every day at work. I accepted my fate - do not argue, just give polite smile, agree with everything and forget they ever existed 3 second after. You do what you gotta do.
Was born in the early 90’s. I remember being taught that there was a hole in the ozone layer in grade school but I don’t remember panicking over it, so I don’t think the teacher did a great job at expressing how big of a deal it was.
No no no, the hole in the ozone layer is still there. It IS healing but its still there. I live in New Zealand, which has one of the highest rates of skin cancer because of the lack of ozone and we still need to avoid the sun and wear sunblock and so on. It's just that people have convinced themselves everything is fine based on a few headlines they didn't read. But it not going to be fixed for years.
true but unlike climate change we as a collective society actually took steps to make sure it didn't get worse, something that will never happen again in this lifetime
It's still there, but it is actively healing and we have done massive overhauls in regards to what aerosols we use. It will take time to recover, obviously, but it is healing and we've done precisely what has to be done to facilitate that healing.
My job in 2018- Don't worry about the lead paint we sent an environmental specialist. The environmental specialist (me a trainee in a 100% unrelated trade for 2 months with a box of clothes, a vacuum and a stick with a paint scraper attached to the end and 0 knowledge of lead paint.
The fact that Pat lacks the self awareness to remember colostomy bag as a targetable weakpoint and say” nothing about the body can affect me” is hilarious
Each generation blames the next one for everything wrong going on, conveniently forgetting that they were the ones who raised that generation and gave them the situation they have to deal with
The amount of times I've heard family members say gen Z is going to ruin the planet Like the entire existence of genz is them looking into the torment nexus that was made for them and the previous generations going "BTW this is your fault"
Yeah and we're finally at a point where the next generation are aware of this, and are actively working to improve. We won't be like this forever, but it also won't completely go away either.
There's some new research that microplastics might have a role on the increase of inflammatory bowel disease, but its all relatively new so most likely not the only thing going on but it'll be a while until we figure All That out so it'll be fun
i call them the lead based generation at this point because you can just TELL when they are not following you and they’re on jupiter. An example from today: “My instructions say I can’t have fish.” “That’s correct.” “Can I have salmon?” “…..Say that again?” “Can I have salmon?” “Salmon is a fish.” “But can I have it?” but you can’t get upset, so you just have to explain (over and over and over and over and over and over again)
The extremely sad thing is that if you account for the fact that an entire generation was metaphorically beaten in the head with a chemical bat, then a lot of things that have happened/are happening in the States make a whole lot more sense.
My grandma used to insist on a bowl of cereal before bed and i grew up fat and everyone always blamed me about it lmao. Come to find out cereal is probably one of the worst things you could eat right before literally just going to bed for the night.
Dude, I dont think I ever gone 22h without eating. Maybe its my fast metabolism but I feel like I gotta eat something every 5h or so. As soon as I feel that hunger I run to the kitchen, so I wouldnt be surprised if lack of food causes depression or whatever else. Also its crazy to imagine that our health, emotions, and life in general can be affected by the chemicals around us that we do not notice. You could very well be drinking water everyday with chemicals that make you angrier or something and you would never know whats the cause.
I can vouch about the eating thing; I tend to forget to eat sometimes or go prolonged times without eating and i end up feeling nauseous/weak. Go eat a sandwich
"the industrial revolution its consequences" my university STILL has asbestos. thankfully it I didn't breathe any in because I was completely paranoid and refused to do anything risky (while the rest of my classmates just drilled shit willy nilly) and you can just piss out the plastics.
The O-Zone layer crisis has been the most frustrating thing when it comes to talking about any issue that affects the planet, and it's because a lot of people think we just stopped talking about it for no reason when the reality is that we literally fixed the O-Zone layer and reduced the type of aerosol we were using.
We did the same thing with acid rain! Like, we raised awareness, enacted policy, created legislative and information campaigns, and the harmful phenomenon stopped happening because we stopped doing the bad shit that causes them.
Lemme throw out a theory for the micro-plastics effect thing. I think it's affecting how people are developing (they look younger) which is why now and then you'll hear someone say "hey how come 20 year olds from some years back look older than the one's today?"
A lot of Rome's brutality and obsession with militarism is likely due to the fact that the City of Rome, which acted as a center of it's governance had lead pipes for drinking water
my grandfather full of asbestos
my father full of lead
me full of microplastics
we all duking it out
great-grandfather full of coal
the shittiest bituminous coals directly from the crack of the Earth's asshole, yum@@malhekai
@@malhekaiI wonder if the kids will be full of whatever all the overlapping radio waves do to us, on top of the microplastics or just one of these
it's caffeine for Gen Z but y'all aren't ready to hear that
@@thedualitysystemI’d say more it’s nicotine, sure you got your caffeine drinkers but im confident at least 50% of teens-young adults vape.
Patton Oswalt: "When my parents visit the baby, they're there for the baby. ...But they're also there to defend the way they raised me."
That’s exactly what I was thinking
"We used to do it all the time with you, and you turned out fine, right!"
"I'M A FAT COMEDIAN WHO GOES UP ON STAGE AND TALKS ABOUT HIS DICK INFRONT OF STRANGERS MOM, NOTHING ABOUT ME IS OKAY!!"
Doesn’t the fact that they have to defend it at all tell them something?
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
Parental arrogance is a strong thing. Some people will think they know everything just because they “experienced the pain of parenthood.”
@@insanemindset2667 that and the "experience" excuse
What I'm actually hearing is that Pat is super strong and tough. Because his mom did all the things that should have led to SIDS and he tanked every bit of it.
Pat is operating at peak performance.
he is Perfect Pat
He survived the SIDS Tankbuster
@@Vekettehe is the Ultimate Pat-form
Is this why pat looks like the statue of the guy who can survive car crashes?
@@VeketteThat's Mr. Perfect Pat to you!
The fact that Pat lived past five years old is a miracle
And also explains a lot about his brother
oh my fuck
And that's not even the one with the cutlass wielding brigands flying through his bedroom window and promising to be back.
Brigand will return
@@johnrivers3813keep in mind I think Pat and Paige have brought up that Pat’s sister is like him but even more
Part of it is lead poisoning, and the other part is just massive shifts in prices of things that are invisible if you are old. Every time my parents give me life advice or career tips, it’s nonsense because they’ve both been retired for 15 years. The world they lived in no longer exists and they have not experienced the new one.
Dude just go do a paper route for 15 cents a pop
“What the fuck is a paper route?”
My wifes grandma- The kids just don't want to work in this neighborhood I use to help chop firewood for a few bucks.
Me- (internally) chop firewood where the only trees for 10 miles are for decoration. What is a few bucks worth in 2023 a 10 spot?
(Externally) yeah that's wild.
That feeds back into the lead poisoning as they become aggressive with you when you remind them of these simple facts
Gosh, it’s going to be hilarious if Pat somehow is still online by the time his kid is trying to find a career. He and Paige will not be able to help him at all if he doesn’t try to be an influencer
@@tarfielarchelone2674
Thats two more words than what I tend to give to my parents when they start that up, so kudos to you I guess
"I was getting super emotional over nothing" and "I almost puked because I was hungry" are the most relatable things I've ever heard
There's a pretty strong link between lead exposure and anger, violence, inability to regulate emotions.
Really explains a lot of what boomers do.
Fun Tidbit: There's a minor theory the reason the Fallout universe is so violent in their alternate history isn't only the 50's patriotic aesthetic stagnating, but also the fact lead exists in loads of miscellaneous items like pencils, toys, and paint all the way up to 2077. Which may mean the discovery of lead being toxic and effecting the way people think maybe wasn't widely publicized or just flat out dismissed because of resource shortages making alternate builds an after-thought.
Makes you wonder how different the world will be with post-lead elderly
I got one at my work who can't go more than an hour without screaming in rage over a tiny nothing of an issue.
There was a *very* clear link attributed between the banning of leaded gasoline, and a strong drop in crime rates, 20 years later. So when the first generation unexposed to airborne lead came of age.
@@Whazzupiethat makes too much sense
The podcast is slowly evolving into multiple therapy sessions and I am here for it
Always has been, pat has a degree in psychology
"There's got to be a gaping, humongous oversight somewhere."
*cooks a fresh omelette on my non-stick frying pan*
Yeah no idea, hope we find it.
Those worry me too 😂
*using a gas range.
Mmmmm teflon
THANKS 3M!
Hello? Microplastics, Aluminum Cans...
"I'm going to make things better by repeating my mistakes" is a very easy mental trap to fall into.
Something something definition of insanity
There's a 15 year age gap between me and my younger half siblings, and I'll never forget get my Dad casually saying after a parenting class before they were born "Wow there's just so much I didn't know!"
I am his 3rd child, he was 22 years into fatherhood by that point.
With how often parenting techniques change if you had 2 kids 15 years apart you'd be saying the same thing.
In Italy the warning notices on cigarette packets also have accompanying pictures and I saw one of a mom smoking O rings right into their toddlers face and I couldn't help but bust out laughing thinking about Pat's mom blowing smoke directly into Pat's baby face as he's bawling and coughing and saying to herself "oh my poor baby has a terrible cleft" *puff*
Now my parents apologize, but for awhile they unironically said “the human body is tough, you can take it”
How full of shit can you be?
The real funny part is they are aware of their wrongness on some level so they'll explode at the slightest criticism
Well if you knew you fucked multiple generations of people, and they knew, and they're pointing it out to you angrily, yeah I could see you getting upset
Never in my life have I read a most concise explanation of what a boomer is.
@@EduardoFlores-bt4fo Danny from GG said "angrily wrong'
Right... That's totally a boomer exclusive thing. Nobody doing that here and now, for certain.
@@FrozenOver0 lol ok boomer
Lead Stare is last generation's Asbestos Vision
IIRC the really insidious thing about lead poisoning is that the lead binds to your bones and will stay inert for decades, but then can be released into the bloodstream again when bone decalcifies.
Say, for example, when an elderly person experiences osteoporosis.
Jesus fuck
So what you're saying is, having high calcium intake will slow this down?
Would you look at that, my step mother who has been diagnosed with that is insanely irritable and constantly excuses their own shitty behaviour. Could just be assholes get osteo, or maybe getting osteo makes you an asshole?
Pat's entire life seems to be balancing his Souls poison, toxic, and durability meters, and has been constantly tetering between just shy of being full and "PAT AT RISK" appearing above his head for the past 30 decades
He and Paige really are meant for eachother, holy shit
30 decades? damn pat is lucky as hell
He looks great for a guy in his 300s.
then for why can the paige eat molded food multiple times and withstand all ill effects? paige appears to be big and possibly strong as well
@@JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski pat and paige are bizarro reality versions of each other, and Pat 2 is going to end up with all of the strengths of them but none of the weaknesses
And he walks with tank controls
I get the same problem as Pat. I call it "hobby hunger". Like, you do something you're into for a little too long and you just FORGET TO EAT.
None of the other stuff though.
I think most people call that hyper focusing. There's a bunch of reasons it can happen. It's ADHD for me.
B'autism
"I'm not going to call the podcast 'Castle Super Yeast'" , exclaimed Woolie the liar
On today's episode "how the fuck is pat still alive"
Spite
@@JetPoweredCloudCrazy Talk's substand is a reverse Wonder of U that will alter fate to ensure Pat survives any calamity but it'll still fuck him up long term
As a person born in the mid 90s we absolutely learned about the hole in the ozone layer. The space shuttles were getting launched and so that made the layers of the atmosphere a topical lesson. There was even a diagram in a textbook about of how the recovery had begun.
As a person born in the 80s like Woolie and Pat, we heard all about how the ozone layer had a hole in it and how awful CFCs were. But by the time the recovery had begun, most of us were out of school or beyond the point in our curriculum where it would be talked about in a class. So basically we got the horrible first half of the story but no resolution to it.
@@kimmalah The good news is apparently the hole is fixed when we cut out like 99% of CFC's. Things are still fucked though, just in new flavours.
@@NEEDbaconthere recently was some news that a bunch of chemical waste was being burned off in China, which set the recovery back by years.
But overall it's in a pretty stable situation
Appropriate to the eventual title of this podcast episode. My grandma told my sister for her babies that she should use corn starch instead of baby powder because it treats diaper rash. Later we found out that doctors tell you not to do that because the starch might have bacteria in it that usually gets killed in cooking, so using that powder might cause a yeast infection in girls.
Also, breathing powder is bad, for all humans of any age.
All baby powder is made of corn starch now that the lawyers decided we can't be trusted with talc, so apparently that wasn't true.
Baby powder is actually made of cornstarch, because the alternative (talcum powder) can potentially give you cancer later in life. I would imagine they just take extra steps to make sure it's sanitary enough for infant use.
To be fair, baby powder also had asbestos in it for quite some time. 😬
To be fair Johnson and Johnson had to payout 8.9 billion because their baby powder caused cancer.
Pat never had a chance did he?
The game was rigged from the start for him.
I feel bad for making fun of his terrible opinions. His brain may very well be full of holes that are now filling with microplastics.
I believe there was an earlier podcast where Woolie had the same realization. Pat in fact never had a chance.
Pat may eat cat hair, doesn't like food to mix at all, can only hear his own voice in his head, and can't replay songs 1:1 in his mind...
... But he ok now :)
Honestly its a miracle he turned out as well as he did
A little while ago, during the time where baby formula was hard to get, there was a Facebook post on my feed kinda braggin about how "back then" they used water and flour if the baby was hungry. How does no one sane immediately see how dangerous that is? Sure the baby isn't "hungry" but it's severely malnourished!! That's the most *crucial* time for children to receive as much nourishment as possible for healthy brain and physical development. It's the _worst_ time to throw them bread and water and go "See it stopped crying. It MUST have worked!"
People underestimate how stupid and uninformed people who grew up in "their times" were.
I don’t think they would defend it back then even. If there was no other option, what were you supposed to do, let the kid starve and have even more likely chance of dying?
@@gameb9oy
You don't "think" they would back then, yet we still here people do it now when that's not the _only_ option available. People 'til this very day, will proudly tout the _wise_ medical advice their great grandmother has given them while the information has already been deemed outdated. You can't say you don't _think_ people would react a certain way while people are _currently_ posting "😂😂😂ya'll complaining about shortages but back in my day, we used to just do xyz 😂😂😂" as well as the fact that most of us are Gen X or millennials who have lived through it.
My friend survived a damn seizure as a baby because her incompetent ass mother gave her water...water... because of whatever reason she thought justified it.
Is it worth saying "the baby is hungry so what else am I supposed to do" when you're the one actively harming the child? And this still doesn't address how they're still severely malnourished and their growth is affected, then they're blamed for their own shortcomings as they come into the world.
The actual danger of feeding a baby water and flour slurry is that raw flour can contain salmonella and E. Coli. There's been several salmonella outbreaks connected to raw flour, even this year. Always cook your flour.
@@Toastybees It's also the same with honey. I know some people either use honey or drinking alcohol on their baby's gums when they started teething. Don't really think that's the best idea.
The average human will learn jack and shit about nutrition. This has been the case for all of human history. That is how utterly brain dead the average person is. People cannot understand the concept of calories or macro nutrients. All you have to do is look at the steadily increasing obesity rates and the UNBROKEN CHAIN of fad diets women come up with to lose weight since time immemorial.
Turns out the only reason Pat's family is so short is because they were all taught to raise children badly as a Prank.
Pat breaks the cycle due to having gone to college.
Smaller Pat WILL find their father eating chocolates in the closet however
Not sure how college relates to good parenting but I think it's because Pat is simply using common sense.
@@turbostrike1632 the point of this whole debacle is that common sense isn't always good enough. Sometimes you need to actually check that you're right, or better yet find someone who's already checked and listen to them.
Patthinks imaginary friends is idiotic, and he's got alot of dumb stances on things; so he'll do okay on the physical health but awful on the mental.
“This is Pat. We have purposefully raised him wrong, as a joke.
The truly fiting ending to the leaded gasoline story, is that the dude ended up semi-paralized from lead exposure, and died when the machine he built to get in/out of bed strangled him
Badass 😮
I know nothing about him, maybe he was a nice dude, but holy crap is that a gloriously poetic end.
@@psykomancer4420
He singlehandedly caused more damage to the environment than any other human in history.
He actually really was a cool dude and made active efforts to fix the damage, but there's a reason he was called an environmental Genghis Khan in the mid-nineties.
Good
@@psykomancer4420I think he rescinded any being called a nice person when he chose the anti knocking additive that was well documented before his time to be toxic because it would be cheaper than the alternatives. And then marketed it without mentioning the lead
Woolie: I am NOT going to name this episode Castle Super Yeast!
*Always Sunny In Philadelphia title theme plays*
I like the notion that Pat is basically Doomsday.
Oh that's why he hates Superman so much
@@AngryHomunculus Its all coming together now
Speaking of issues of our current generation, gotta love how rainwater is no longer safe to drink.
My granddad likes to keep an open garbage can near his garage and he tells me it’s to collect rainwater. Considering he’s from the lead generation, I’m not going to bother explaining to him why it’s a bad idea.
No wonder Pat's good at soulslikes
He was playing with a DS2 Hollow debuff the entire time
Plague resistance: MAX
Poison resistance: MAX
Humans rarely consider how their environments impact them until its far too late. Hopefully we learn from history one day
(X) Doubt
Saying "one day" at the end sounds like a punchline to maximum irony. We're always going to put off "one day" as not today, until it becomes never.
@@jacobsmith4428 Sad but true
Humans? You mean industrial capitalists.
Four thousands of years humans were doing fine, it wasn't until industrialization that this shit happened AND the truth was hidden by companies, like studies done in the 70s by big oil companies that showed how messed up it was getting but decided to hide it to protect their profits.
@@jacobsmith4428 This is why the line at the end of Extra Credits' series on the South Sea Bubble always stuck with me when I heard it for the first time:
"This is a good lesson. I hope we learn it someday."
The major issue that they covered in that series - an economic bubble bursting due to over-evaluation and extreme speculation of the early 18th century South Seas Company which was built on lies and nothing - is just something that happens over and over again and no one with power in business ever learns from it. And of course, it's far from the only issue that cycles throughout history too.
So Pat essentially got hit with a stupid amount of nerfs and status debuffs at a low level, and yet here he is now, still kicking. Pretty impressive.
"Boomer Lead Stare" is a strong mind goblin.
While I'm not a boomer, I was COMPLETELY oblivious to lead paint EVEN BEING A THING MANG. This was truly educational, and now I'm just baffled. But I guess this was another "we smoked before we even had a clue it would affect us badly"-type story of ye olde eldrich history.
Thanks on shining attention to this Woolie & Pat, truly educational podcast, holy shit.
In my elementary school there was lead paint on the walls and they warned us not to pick at it but the more they told us not to do it more we did it. Especially in the bathroom where there wasn't any teachers watching.
I was born in 93
What's even more crazy is that lead tastes sweet, so kids would lick walls with lead paint on them.
Of you think that's bad? The Victorians used arsenic in makeup and wallpaper. Under the right circumstances, the arsenic could vaporize and you would breathe it in.
If you want to be even more baffled, since lead often has a sweet taste, there was a time (like long, LONG ago) when lead was used as a sweetener in things like wine. It's also partially why lead paint was such a problem, because kids loved to chew on it and eat the sweet paint flakes.
From the people that brought you “The Banality of Evil” comes “The Idiocy of Self Destruction”!
You know I'm starting to understand why so many generations before therapy were fucked up.
I’ve had that “sick hungry” before and it’s a really strange sensation, almost worrying
Classic example is carbs taking the blame for sugars because sodas paid researchers. Nough Australians can stay
Admittedly sugars *are* carbs.
3:30 "Eat food until you're not sad any more" It's all fun and games until depression kicks in and you're eating all day c:
Don't worry though! The scale will make things way worse later! c:
This totally isn't a spiral
Yeah that was sorta the joke of it lol.
Man the joke really flung over your head didn’t it
@@s7robin105 I know it's a joke. I'm just pointing out the spiral for fun
16:00 I blame our negativity bias for this, the amount of astronomically great things that happened that we simply don't get an update on is huge
As someone who is never going to be a parent, googling "crib bumpers danger" is a nightmare I would have never experienced normally. Thanks Pat.
Fun fact, when leaded gasoline and freon inventor Thomas Midgley Jr. contracted polio in 1940 and was left severely disabled, he invented a pully system to get himself out of bed, which he got caught in and accidently strangled himself to death.
So fun
The Romans spread the idea that lead was the best material for plumbing, so for more than 1000 years, all the biggest warring civilizations, including England, Spain, France and Germany have had lead poisoning. And our grandparents say millennials are the problem because we're too sober and soft :D.
Regarding CFCs - kinda funny that what we signed to solve the ozone hole was the *Montreal Protocol*
This lead stare is the funniest thing i've ever heard omg
Also Pat is legit a miracle child
Born 1997 here, I am pretty sure the first time I learned about the ozone layer was from the pokemon movie about deoxys and rayquaza.
as I am working a retail job, Boomer lead stare is such a real thing. you have to actively keep yourself from thinking less of the average older person due to how much boomers and older millennials act like legit NPCs all the time.
Older millennials?
Do you mean gen X?
@@KingRidley Being forgotten about is Gen X's signature move.
At this point im inagining anyone with lead to basically have the butchers nails from warhammer 40k inside them. Just randomly at one point the lead kicks in and makes them angry for no reason.
god i have this problem with my mother constantly. shes a firm believer that being unsanitary helps to build your immunities, and "MY mom did it this way and WE didnt die!"
It actually does the reverse. The immune system is like a resource that gets drained the more often it's used. This is why repeat cold, flu, and cvid infection is not a good idea.
Yeah being overly germophobic isn't great but be sanitary. Get into dirty stuff often and clean it promptly
I have hypoglycemia so I get very emotional or anxious over nothing very easily if I'm a few hours behind on eating a meal. I also have to be careful to not have too much sugar because then I also become an emotional asshole when my blood sugar drops.
This happens for normal people too just not the my extreme, so much so that there's an acronym in the mental health community you use to check in on yourself when you're feeling it and it's called HALT and H stands for hunger. I don't know it by heart but it's basically, have you eaten, have you drank any water, are you feeling lonely or tired?
Yeah I'm the exact same way. Good thing I'm a light eater and get full easily at least
As a toddler a special "sometimes" snack wasn't cookies or chocolate, it was a slice of ciabatta bread soaked in red wine and with sugar sprinkled on top. How I still have a liver is beyond me 😂
wHAT
Couldn't have picked a better example of the lead stare in that thunbnail 😂
I get that hunger puke feeling pretty often and it's fucking trash, it hurts like hell
It's like being so hungry that it hurts too much to eat. Try anti-acid/anti-acid reflux meds, they help, not a cure. We will die with our curse or pass it into our children.
Very ironic that the time it's hardest to eat is when you are the hungriest, moments where you wonder how it would be to be like a snake that eats a whole pig and can chill for a month
Honestly Pat must have been the healthiest goddamn baby to still be here today
Oh man, i see that stare every day at work. I accepted my fate - do not argue, just give polite smile, agree with everything and forget they ever existed 3 second after. You do what you gotta do.
*She longs for her watch to come to an end*
CSB: *3 hours of jokes pertaining to wakeup lvl 3*
Me: *opens a bag of beef jerky*
Pat: So last night I think I prolapsed myself for the first time
*Every time*
My favorite podcast Crying Stomach Bidet
God that hit hard....every time I look at my mom all I can see is the boomer lead stare now.
I have SEEN the boomer lead stare, holy shit
Was born in the early 90’s. I remember being taught that there was a hole in the ozone layer in grade school but I don’t remember panicking over it, so I don’t think the teacher did a great job at expressing how big of a deal it was.
Oh my god, she was actually trying to kill him-
Every time I get nauseous I have to do a game where I have to diagnose myself and figure out if I'm hungry, sleepy or depressed.
Patrick "Stunted n' Busted" Boivin.
No no no, the hole in the ozone layer is still there. It IS healing but its still there. I live in New Zealand, which has one of the highest rates of skin cancer because of the lack of ozone and we still need to avoid the sun and wear sunblock and so on. It's just that people have convinced themselves everything is fine based on a few headlines they didn't read. But it not going to be fixed for years.
true but unlike climate change we as a collective society actually took steps to make sure it didn't get worse, something that will never happen again in this lifetime
It's still there, but it is actively healing and we have done massive overhauls in regards to what aerosols we use. It will take time to recover, obviously, but it is healing and we've done precisely what has to be done to facilitate that healing.
My job in 2018- Don't worry about the lead paint we sent an environmental specialist.
The environmental specialist (me a trainee in a 100% unrelated trade for 2 months with a box of clothes, a vacuum and a stick with a paint scraper attached to the end and 0 knowledge of lead paint.
The fact that Pat lacks the self awareness to remember colostomy bag as a targetable weakpoint and say” nothing about the body can affect me” is hilarious
Realising that Pat is so short because he grew up with the nutrition of a 19th century street orphan
Woolie did in fact name the episode Castle Super Yeast.
This just in:
Local Man Doesn't Eat; Gets Hungry.
What happens next will shock you!
3:20 you ever get the hunger shakes? My body doesn’t tell me I’m hungry until I feel weak, so I actively have to keep track of when I last ate.
Pat is the ancestor of the Catachan, confirmed
My parents just got their water mains replaced and it turns out they were not lead, not copper, but FUCKING WOOD.
Each generation blames the next one for everything wrong going on, conveniently forgetting that they were the ones who raised that generation and gave them the situation they have to deal with
I mean millenials didnt raise the gen y, just the zoomers
Edit: not zoomers, gen alpha
The amount of times I've heard family members say gen Z is going to ruin the planet
Like the entire existence of genz is them looking into the torment nexus that was made for them and the previous generations going "BTW this is your fault"
@@sdbzfan1… Millennials ARE Gen Y
Yeah and we're finally at a point where the next generation are aware of this, and are actively working to improve. We won't be like this forever, but it also won't completely go away either.
@@Epsilvonic then what are people between 1998 and 2010
Truly Pat is the Lucky Ted
Oh *boy!*
8:30 - Lead Time
The real reason Pat is small is so he can dodge all the shit life throws at him
Hey the Nite-Quill Binky and Crib Bumpers are perfectly fine!!!
That thumbnail. . . sheesh.
That feels to me like the mother from the Burger Kitchen episode of Kitchen Nightmares.
It's that lady who pretended to hate the meal made by the chef, his way, that Gordon Ramsay liked.
@@Emmatheladyfun fact: the dad from that episode is the son of one of Australia’s most infamous criminals
@@cherrygrabber7172
Yep. That’s the one.
@@DEFxRECON
What a “fun” family. I felt bad for the son and his girlfriend.
There's some new research that microplastics might have a role on the increase of inflammatory bowel disease, but its all relatively new so most likely not the only thing going on but it'll be a while until we figure All That out so it'll be fun
i call them the lead based generation at this point because you can just TELL when they are not following you and they’re on jupiter.
An example from today:
“My instructions say I can’t have fish.”
“That’s correct.”
“Can I have salmon?”
“…..Say that again?”
“Can I have salmon?”
“Salmon is a fish.”
“But can I have it?”
but you can’t get upset, so you just have to explain (over and over and over and over and over and over again)
The extremely sad thing is that if you account for the fact that an entire generation was metaphorically beaten in the head with a chemical bat, then a lot of things that have happened/are happening in the States make a whole lot more sense.
My grandma used to insist on a bowl of cereal before bed and i grew up fat and everyone always blamed me about it lmao. Come to find out cereal is probably one of the worst things you could eat right before literally just going to bed for the night.
It would ensure I "slept through the night".
Dude, I dont think I ever gone 22h without eating. Maybe its my fast metabolism but I feel like I gotta eat something every 5h or so. As soon as I feel that hunger I run to the kitchen, so I wouldnt be surprised if lack of food causes depression or whatever else.
Also its crazy to imagine that our health, emotions, and life in general can be affected by the chemicals around us that we do not notice. You could very well be drinking water everyday with chemicals that make you angrier or something and you would never know whats the cause.
"i'm not namign this episode castle super yeast, you can't make me do it"
-always sunny titlecard-
Woolie once again lied as naturally as he breathed lmao
The Doomsday origin comparison was wildddddd
I can vouch about the eating thing; I tend to forget to eat sometimes or go prolonged times without eating and i end up feeling nauseous/weak. Go eat a sandwich
This game was rigged from the start...
...yet somehow Pat made it through childhood anyway, thank god
Kitchen nightmares jumpscare thumbnail
"the industrial revolution its consequences"
my university STILL has asbestos. thankfully it I didn't breathe any in because I was completely paranoid and refused to do anything risky (while the rest of my classmates just drilled shit willy nilly) and you can just piss out the plastics.
"You can't make me name it castle super yeast"
But you did tho.
And the chat didn't. Woolie rose to the occasion of his own accord.
Lol next week well find out pats mom had him smoke black and milds to keep misquotes away at this rate.
Fyi, people born mid 90s still had ozone layer hole and general climate change as major topics in schools
Depends on how liberal your science teacher was if you had one at all. (catholic and home schoolers)
The O-Zone layer crisis has been the most frustrating thing when it comes to talking about any issue that affects the planet, and it's because a lot of people think we just stopped talking about it for no reason when the reality is that we literally fixed the O-Zone layer and reduced the type of aerosol we were using.
We did the same thing with acid rain! Like, we raised awareness, enacted policy, created legislative and information campaigns, and the harmful phenomenon stopped happening because we stopped doing the bad shit that causes them.
With every story Pat has about some minutia that developed into a flawed mental construct. He could write a book.
The fact that I recognize the old lady in the thumbnail means I've watched to much Kitchen Nightmares.
This makes me feel better about my parents being too safe
Fun fact; Canada still widely uses asbestos in things like nuclear plants
To be fair it IS an amazing fire retardant.
@@tylergaye5457 it is indeed
Lemme throw out a theory for the micro-plastics effect thing. I think it's affecting how people are developing (they look younger) which is why now and then you'll hear someone say "hey how come 20 year olds from some years back look older than the one's today?"
Microplastics contain phytoestrogens. Your theory holds water.
so what your saying... is if we eat more microplastics we will look like teenagers in our 50s ... and probably die around that time to
A lot of Rome's brutality and obsession with militarism is likely due to the fact that the City of Rome, which acted as a center of it's governance had lead pipes for drinking water
Lead theory is some plausible shit.