Hmm I'd say yes, but then I think that the rear glass cover cracking that way, would be a serious problem if someone decided to put the phone in some pocket, maybe back pocket of the jeans... I really like the form factor, but the lack of support on the back cover is a real shame.
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that..
Every Samsung foldable aside from the very first one passed without any damage like that. This isn't the worst, pixel fold was, but still not on Par with most other fold
@@therealmistermemer I had the Z Flip 3 a year or two ago when it first launched, he did a review on that phone and it did better than this one. Samsung designed the hinge technology they are using here. It's essentially an exact copy of the z flip 3/4 with a bigger outer screen. Frankly I think that hollow area behind the outer glass is very concerning. That's the screen that will be bumping into things when it's in your pocket. They should have had a plastic frame behind that outer display to support it. Bump into a table or something and it could be game over. IMHO the outer screen should be the tougher of the two since it is exposed the most. The inner screen is protected at all times while folded.
@@cagukoI don't think we'll ever get a folding phone that Will cost less than $1,000. I just think inflation will make $1,000 not be as valuable as it is today
Considering most people's phones live in their side pants pocket, having a void under the glass like that would absolutely be a concern in terms of screen breakage especially when sitting down or bumping into something.
Yeah you'd definitely want to be careful to keep the phone in your pocket with the screen toward your leg. I think most people do that with their phones anyway, but foldables are such a different shape I'm not sure.
I'm not sure if the apple watches are still doing this but back a few years ago, I dropped my apple watch series 3 on the beveled edge and the beveled edge of the glass was completely unsupported. Despite being the stainless steel version with the sapphire glass, it shattered only on the beveled edge that had no support behind it. It seems like manufactures don't understand how vulnerable unsupported glass is.
Unless you had something else in your pocket... let's say a cough drop, since we're pretty tuned-in to not putting anything damagingly-hard in the same pocket as our phone... I'm not sure if our squishy thigh muscles would create enough _localized_ PSI to break that outer glass. *Unless...* that empty void extends the length of that half of the phone. Even then, I'm not sure, since now it's a force spread out across a greater surface area. Not saying I'm right, only offering my 2¢ on this. 😊
True but putting a phone on ya back pocket just feels uncomfortable but then again, maybe I'm just a strange human that puts my phone in my side pocket
I mean kinda made abit sense since the back portion of the frame was being pressed together, preventing more bending. The smol screen would probably also not have cracked if he didn't press on the screen itself.
that front screen still working after all that and having only a couple lines, but still having an easily visible screen was pretty insane. itll be funny to see someone angrily slam a smart phone shut 😂
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
As someone who just purchased this phone, I'm glad to see it not fare too badly in durability. Must say, this is quickly becoming my favorite phone ever - even more so than the original Razr back in the day.
Gotta agree. I bought this thinking "if it sucks I'll return it" but its just so fun to use. Moto has really outdone themselves with this one. If the camera and battery life were just a hair better this would be a perfect phone.
I'm really considering buying it. However I'm a truck driver and I use my current phone for maps constantly. I was wondering can I use the small screen for maps?
The phone is absolutely great. Have it for a few days now and the formfactor combined with the fully standalone front display is a game changer for me.
I have been using the RAZR+ now for a couple weeks, and I am definitely impressed with it. Seeing this video made me feel a bit better about the durability too lol
Since it's still functional I'd say it's about a 60% pass. If the screen broke like that, which looks likely, it would need replacement or repairs quickly but it would work until then. Still a hard pass from me
@@aqua-berymy love I've dropped my RAZR+ with no case on concrete with no issues. This test is intentionally designed to destroy the phone and not really what would happen in day to day. I would say this phone is more durable than my iPhone XR (the last iPhone I bought). I've gone without a case since I got it and it has no cracks or visible scratches. I could never do the same with any of my previous smart phones. The Motorola RAZR+ is the best phone I've ever had in my entire life🤗This phone is about experience it gives you in reality😉 People are excited to see me and my cool folding mini phone especially in the Magenta color💖❣️💖
I don't think the spot that caved in would do that when folded and sat on. That was a very specific pressure point due to trying to bend the hinge the wrong direction. I say it's a pass, especially with all that dirt you threw in there. I'm impressed.
Into that empty area does swell the inside flexible screen, but that's not going to give any more backing to that external half-screen. The phone looks pretty good otherwise, especially the hinge itself, but Motorola could have easily put a thin metal sheet behind the screen there, not lost much space inside for the folding screen, and greatly strengthened that area. It think it would fail pretty much the same when folded if you squeezed on it in the same place.
@@GregConquest I can personally vouch for this happening. I had the phone folded inside of a pocket in the rear waistband of my skirt. When I pulled the phone out the outside screen was badly cracked about a finger's-width up from the hinge. I thought maybe the pressure from the pocket zipper pull had pressed against it but it's not possible to have the pull hit the folded phone in the location the crack occurred. There is definitely a give in the glass on the spot where it's cracked so it appears to be a pressure crack. I called Motorola support but without the pricey accident care protection (that I turned down thinking I wouldn't need it and would just pay for a repair caused by a drop) they refuse to help me. I believe this is a defect in the phone that others will experience - a phone should not fail when in a padded pocket! After years of using LG phones I returned to a Motorola thinking the durability would be adequate on this phone, barring drops, of course. Boy was I wrong. Thumbs down to Motorola, and a warning to those who keep the phone in your pocket - pressure against the outside glass towards the hinge area WILL break the glass. Ugh.
I just bought this phone a few days ago and I love it. The charging time is absolutely insane. I walked outside for 5 minutes with a dead battery and it was like 20 percent charged when I came in. I bought a case on Amazon for 14 dollars and I'm honestly not too worried about breaking it. I am worried about getting dirt in the hinge though.
This was literally the first ever video I saw from this man, and while I could tolerate the screen scratching test, seeing him pull that blade along the aluminum frame made me literally wince in shock and emotional pain. Needless to say, I do not think you went easy on this durability test, hats off?
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
@@thewatchmenzand yet I see girls with their phone shoved in their back pocket all day long. That screen would shatter pretty quick with someone sitting on it.
@@thewatchmenz That also gives a kind of durability test for the hinge though. That thing needs to be functionally working near to 50,000 times or more. Have you ever seen a foldable that has been kept in generic store for a longer periods, that has been used by a lot of people. They have visible scratch crease on the screen just after being folded.
I posted this as a reply to someone else's comment but wanted to make it more visible to others thinking of purchasing this phone. I can personally say that a crack from pressure on the outside screen IS happening. I had the phone folded inside of a pocket in the rear waistband of my skirt. When I pulled the phone out the outside screen was badly cracked about a finger's-width up from the hinge. I thought maybe the pressure from the pocket zipper pull had pressed against it but it's not possible to have the pull hit the folded phone in the location the crack occurred. There is definitely a give in the glass on the spot where it's cracked so it appears to be a pressure crack. I called Motorola support but without the pricey accident care protection (that I turned down thinking I wouldn't need it and would just pay for a repair caused by a drop) they refuse to help me. I believe this is a defect in the phone that others will experience - a phone should not fail when in a padded pocket! After years of using LG phones I returned to a Motorola thinking the durability would be adequate on this phone, barring drops, of course. Boy was I wrong. Thumbs down to Motorola, and a warning to those who keep the phone in your pocket - pressure against the outside glass towards the hinge area WILL break the glass. Ugh.
RIP LG phones. :( I abused the hell out of my LG phones and all my old LG phones I have in drawers are still fully functional but sadly too old and slow for use today. Shame the lack of software support results in e-waste that otherwise would be fully functional. My daily drivers now are the Microsoft Surface Duo 2 and a Samsung A42(work phone).
I'm literally watching this on my RAZR Plus and I'm pretty sure my heartbeat stopped a few times during this video. Guess I'm going on Amazon ASAP and finding a rugged case lol
The one that is broken will go full black after a while. I had 2 phones in my house break due to damage from falling and they do work for a few hrs but then they go black later. It is a sort of slow process but you can see the discoloration of the screen set and it goes full blue the keep becoming darker till it's fully black.
@@MrPopo-kn3lx Were they Samsungs? Mine had a tiny crack and the screen died straight away. My wife's iphone still continues after being completely shattered.
@@Brukn0ws one was samsung, the other was asus (good chance that asus uses samsung displays too) They sort of had their display layer damaged I think. If there is just glass crack then it would work
@@MrPopo-kn3lx idk i had an galaxy s8 and im a phone abuser. after 2 years with cracked, thrown, shattered screen, still worked. Then i turned it into a flip phone and no longer works.
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
Honestly, after the sand test I was already sold. But the fact that the exterior screen broke first is also a plus. With general care I can see this phone lasting a long time before you need another one.
I'm not sure how the fact that it depends on inflation and the type of "tier" of phone you buy flies over your head. Most companies have perfectly working beautiful screens and all the works that one would need a phone to do this day and age for sub $200. And if that's not cheap enough there are phones of slightly less quality but still everything you need for $20-100. The $1000 price tag is strictly for the enthusiasts, nobody NEEDS a super expensive flagship phone.
@@qwertypoiuyt1 I know I'm late to say this but same goes for all the other phone brands such as Vivo, Xiaomi, Oppo and Oneplus. Their top tier phones still cost $1000+
I think the front screen also broke because of the metal pieces touching at the hinge. My guess is that through bending the phone backwards the metal part got pressed up against the outer screen, creating even more and a different direction of pressure, leading to it cracking under your thumb
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
@@thewatchmenz I will say, some of the concerns I've seen people post about the fragile nature of folding phones makes me question how some people actually care for their phones. Like sure, they'll break more easily than a regular phone, but phones in general are fairly fragile and should be handled with care regardless.
@@thewatchmenz to say he's the reason goes a bit too far. He's a reason alongside consumers wishing for longer battery life, a more premium feel and more premium materials. Also keeping newer chips cool makes coolers bigger and heavier
I suspect the pressure of the glass edges squeezing it in the reverse bend was what broke the screen. Your thumb went through the just shattered section with a lot of pressure, causing the big dent.
Motorola is a solid brand. The Incredible Droid 2 was perfection for me. My S22 Ultra is rad, but i have also Moto G Series that is a solid backup for that phone, damn impressive when you consider it being 1/6th of the cost. I'm stoked to see them toeing ahead in these types of "real world" tests. They are the OG.
I think it did quite decently. It did good on the dust test , burn test was more than what i think a phone would usually be subjected to and the bend test had interesting results. I personally am a fan of Motorola with my first being the BackFlip which was a an inovation at it's time.
My guess is that void behind the small screen is to accomodate the flexible screen when the phone is closed. As you showed when it is closed there's no gap in the hinge side so they've probably added those spaces to avoid pinching the flexible display when it is closed.
6:39 Judging by the size of the void, I don't think it had as much to do with the force of me bending the phone, but more just with *Nothing* being back there. Nothing Phone: Don't look at me, I had nothing to do with this.
I'd call it a fail considering the small screen can break so easily if force is applied to that weak spot. These flexible screens scratching at a 2 is crazy to me. You have to be absurdly careful with these phones. I generally am, but I like a bit of leeway lol.
How TF is this a fail??? Who on earth is going to be bending a phone backwards???? Nobody. That is the ONLY reason it shattered. Especially since he did another test where the phone was closed and he put pressure on the exact same spot and nothing happened.
It's astonishing to see the efforts and risks Zack puts up in making such a bend test. I mean Zack bending that broken and holed screen again by holding it from there. That's outstanding. Love you Zack.
Are you kidding me? it's impressive to you to press against a partially shattered glass that's still mostly intact and is unlikely to cut? What a risk. That's how far this soy generation got xD
@@wtfiswiththosehandles 6.5" is very functional for a full phone expect maybe for media consumption and typing but other than that, its indeed a great idea.
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
it seems like the empty space behind the small screen is meant to be a cavity for the inner screen to bend inwards, as you mentioned it creates a tear drop fold when you close it.
That's a big win. Looks like an easy thing to correct in future iterations, and it is probably unlikely to break with normal use. I really like this phone, especially the outside screen.
Especially when you consider we probably aren't going to be bending the phones backwards. I saw a point made about what if someone sits on it, but I'm sure the pressure from that is much more even plus the phone is closed
Love watching you do, what i wish i could do. With the cost of these phones. You put me at ease when I'm going to look at getting a phone. I work construction so durability matters to me. Thanks for all the videos! :)
I'd say it's a pass, even though the outer screen turned into rubble, that screen still worked at the end, all while the inner screen remaining fully functional aside from that burn mark. Considering the normal person isn't going to be intentionally bending the phone in the opposite direction, it seems like it will last quite a bit.🤗 Always loving the videos Zack. Have a great day.
I was listening with my headphones and at 7:01 i got scared.. on the left Headphone it sounds like someone is behind you, but he says with a distorted voice "aren't we all" referring to the phone being a little damaged.
in tech we had to actually step back a few times so we can start walking up again.. reffering to features like water resistent (not) and the scratch test etc
i feel like its a pass since it isnt the main screen that died. its still usable even though definitely less so than before. nice to see that motorola upped their game! hopefully the next model doesnt come with empty space inside and then its a really solid foldable.
For foldable phones, you need to add an extra test. Add like a grain of sand to different parts of the screen (edges, center) and then fold it. See if there's any damage. Then fold again and apply a bit of pressure. This is important because this is something that can happen in real life. Some people even reported damaging their Pixel Fold this way too.
@@Yoon_gibiased Whatever he is putting in, is soft and breaks apart easily. It's more like dust. Sand on the other hand is coarse, rough, and it gets everywhere.
Considering where foldables are right now, I'd consider this a very good pass. It survived that sand torture tha was painful to watch and remained basically functional at the end. Very good pass.
Where foldables are right now ? Samsung's foldable ever since the Fold 3 survived bending and dust 2 years before this Razr, actually be functional almost flawlessly after such abuse, unlike this one which got one screen broken. Also the whole idea of the Razr plus is that you don't need to open the phone as often (to quote Motorola themselves: "If you're gonna open it all the time, you might as well buy a slab phone"), having their outer display, the main selling point, broken from just a finger pressing against them is just hilarous
6:09 Do you think maybe the pressure exerted by your thumb might’ve done the damage there? I agree that this is strange, but I’m trying to take some other factors into account.
That void behind the exterior screen is a bit of a concern, but I'd call this a huge win compared to other folding phones! And the shattered outer screen still mostly works, even with that hole!
Exactly what other folding phones again ? The only foldables aside from Motorola that Zack has tested were from Samsung and Google iirc, and while the Pixel Fold got crushed, Samsung's Z-fold has survived without any outer display breaking since at least the Fold 3
@hoanganphanle Yeah, the Z Flip 3 and 4 did pretty well in his tests too. At least as well as this Moto if not a bit better. The only time I had any serious damage to my Z Flip 4 was when I was unlucky enough for it to slip out of my pocket at just the right angle for the corner of the hinge to hit pavement. I had to get the hinge repaired, but the screen didn't break even with my dad trying to force it to open all the way. That put extra pressure on the screen since it couldn't open the way it was designed to, but it didn't break. The Z Flips are tough for what they are. I just have to make sure it doesn't fall out of my pocket onto concrete. That's my only concern.
I’m surprised why phone companies don’t hire Zack to show up at their offices with his kit and do a durability test before they are released to the masses. Sounds like the obvious thing to do.
honestly it's usually because they spend millions on R&D and do testing all throughout that phase...also to be fair to companies some of his tests are unrealistic/unreasonable like the flame test (which Zack even admits is just for fun basically)
@@sdrtcacgnrjrc No they dont lol. Imagine putting a solid plastic cavity instead of that hole behind the front glass. Obvious structural design flaw. Im just a software engineer but I do hope any mechanical engineer can understand that.
@@akarshJD This is speculation, but it is important to note that the pressure that broke the glass was applied in a very specific way: a thumb pointing straight into the glass. It looked like if he situated his thumb elsewhere the crack wouldn't happen. Whereas in any other case of normal use, the pressure of perhaps sitting on it would be evenly distributed elsewhere to places with support.
The first mobile phone only took two weeks of engineering. The first call was by the boss of the company to his competitor, literally the first "First!" ever on a mobile device. But looking back now, people only care who's best
I think all things considered, this was a pass in my book. Yeah, that external screen broke, and yeah, it could have had better reinforcement, but the main screen is my concern and it seemed to do just fine. Still, I'm not jumping on the bandwagon of folding phones just yet, though :)
Id say its a partial pass because while it did break, bith screens still worked and it didnt fold both ways. However, the exterior screen did break but still mostly worked, so its not completely a fail there
You're right, people who use technology less are happier, however, trust me when I say that technology definitely isn't the cause of decreased happiness. The very moment life becomes more pleasurable to me than usual, I immediately get off the screen, so much so that there were even days when I almost completely forgot about the fact that my phone exists. If we want everyone to use technology less, we need to make sure everyone has enough hope to face life and its' difficulties, it would be ideal if life was at least a little easier to handle and contained at least a little more ups than downs. And, quite frankly, you are helping, Jerry, you really are. Keep up the good work, entertainment can turn darkness into brightness for most people.
Oooh the folded display is actually functioning like the normal phone, just in a 1:1 ratio. Thats awesome! If the galaxy Z Flip 5 would have had this, i would have upgraded from my original Z flip already But they'll probably do that in the next generation then
Finally another respectable foldable than Samsung, well done, if they will make it even waterproof I consider moving on razr from flip, even if I rlly like the colors and the looks of my flip 3, razr appears to be a bettef fit to my pretentions, of course except the colors and the unexpected flexibility of the smaller screen:))
I have had my Motorola RAZR+ for a little over 2 weeks with no case and have dropped it multiple times on concrete and tile with only minor scratches. I also accidentally threw the RAZR+ across the room where it hit the wall then ceramic tile floor when I ripped off the covers frantically searching for it on my bed so I won't be late for class lol 😂 It's so much more durable than my former galaxy z flip 4 that broke when dropped on carpet in a case. I had to replace my Flip 4 once a month because of durability issues even with a heavy duty case that covered every inch of the phone that wasn't the screen! I'm so much more happier with the Motorola RAZR+ ☺️☺️☺️☺️
As somebody who used to repair various phone brands for years, this is not an easy thing to watch. But it`s really great that those butcher tests can help to uncover design flaws. Screen scratch tests are my favorite so far. I would never buy anything that damages that easily.
motorola makes super solid phones, ive had my phone for 4 or 5 years already and just recently cracked the back of the phone (i had no case all this time) and the screen is still intact so i can keep going for quite a while.
For a foldable device that comes with so many scary warnings, I think this is a pretty impressive result. I don't expect anybody to put a flame to their phone, so as long as you dont accidentally kneel on the phone while its folded (and shatter the front screen) it seems like this thing will take quite a lot of abuse and keep on kicking.
You need a JRE catch pan. Something like a half of a cookie sheet pan that has your Logo on it... Something that would improve your claen up, safety for the young one's and just something else you can sell H.F. ( local tool stores) sells a little yellow tray that has a corner funnel for sorting things this might be a good example to be able to start with.
Ditch the outside screen and make the glass outside covers out of polycarbonate or glass fiber reinforced nylon and you would have a solid flip phone at a lower price.
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Looks like it passed. Still works even with a broken screen and a melted spot on the main screen. Looks like a win of the durability test.
Nah, that thing is gonna cave in your pocket and you'll be plenty upset
Hmm I'd say yes, but then I think that the rear glass cover cracking that way, would be a serious problem if someone decided to put the phone in some pocket, maybe back pocket of the jeans... I really like the form factor, but the lack of support on the back cover is a real shame.
Agreed,it passed. It still is functional.
The exterior screen broke so easily. With normal use, it'd break _fast_
It's less durable than phones that have _passed_ the test.
@@delpinskyskill issue if you put your phone in a back pocket and sit on it
7:06 - "The Razr Plus is still functional, just a little damaged. Aren't we all?" - That was deep but on the point 😂
Facts
The audio pan at "aren't we all" is so random that it will cause you to jump haha.
That hit hard. 😅
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that..
@@thewatchmenz Accidents Happen ?!
Considering the fragility of other foldable phones, I would absolutely say this passed; not flawlessly but better than most!
Every Samsung foldable aside from the very first one passed without any damage like that. This isn't the worst, pixel fold was, but still not on Par with most other fold
@@Natsukashii1111 well its less expancive also
Galaxy Fold 4 is still probably the durability standard for foldables, although an official dust resistance/full waterproofing would be nice.
Apple will never do a folding phone, that is too much innovation for them
Not many folks will bend the phone like Jerry just did particularly where his thumb was positioned... i def consider it a pass!
Overall I think these foldable phones have come a long way in just a short period of time. Excited to see the other generations
My mom dropped her Fold 4 in water a month back, and it still works like new, a few models back it would be e-waste!
@@therealmistermemer I had the Z Flip 3 a year or two ago when it first launched, he did a review on that phone and it did better than this one. Samsung designed the hinge technology they are using here. It's essentially an exact copy of the z flip 3/4 with a bigger outer screen. Frankly I think that hollow area behind the outer glass is very concerning. That's the screen that will be bumping into things when it's in your pocket. They should have had a plastic frame behind that outer display to support it. Bump into a table or something and it could be game over. IMHO the outer screen should be the tougher of the two since it is exposed the most. The inner screen is protected at all times while folded.
I'm going to wait for tech to mature a bit. Hopefully manufacturing cost come down and we get a model for less than $1,000.
@@cagukoI don't think we'll ever get a folding phone that Will cost less than $1,000. I just think inflation will make $1,000 not be as valuable as it is today
Considering most people's phones live in their side pants pocket, having a void under the glass like that would absolutely be a concern in terms of screen breakage especially when sitting down or bumping into something.
Yeah you'd definitely want to be careful to keep the phone in your pocket with the screen toward your leg. I think most people do that with their phones anyway, but foldables are such a different shape I'm not sure.
I'm not sure if the apple watches are still doing this but back a few years ago, I dropped my apple watch series 3 on the beveled edge and the beveled edge of the glass was completely unsupported. Despite being the stainless steel version with the sapphire glass, it shattered only on the beveled edge that had no support behind it. It seems like manufactures don't understand how vulnerable unsupported glass is.
I managed to break the back glass on my OnePlus 9 with the included case on it, having an empty void behind glass absolutely won't help
Unless you had something else in your pocket... let's say a cough drop, since we're pretty tuned-in to not putting anything damagingly-hard in the same pocket as our phone... I'm not sure if our squishy thigh muscles would create enough _localized_ PSI to break that outer glass.
*Unless...* that empty void extends the length of that half of the phone.
Even then, I'm not sure, since now it's a force spread out across a greater surface area.
Not saying I'm right, only offering my 2¢ on this. 😊
True but putting a phone on ya back pocket just feels uncomfortable but then again, maybe I'm just a strange human that puts my phone in my side pocket
Didn't expect it to be able to fold like that.
The folding phone? You didn't expect to fold?
@@stephenallen4635 he meant the way opposed to hinge, Sherlock.
@@DenisDaLynx It was a joke dude. Relax. 😁
@@DenisDaLynx it didnt fold that way
Apple will never do a folding phone, that is too much innovation for them
He needs a podcast just so we can listen to his voice while trying to fall asleep
You should just ask for asmr if you want to sleep with his voice on lol
Haha yes
True
You said it😅
Fall asleep with Jerry.
This device performed definitely better than the other reviewed fold-screen smartphones in the bend test, props to Motorola for that.
Omg the scraping of the side of EVERY phone with the razor gets me every time. Ahh it puts a chill in my bones
Same! Not all people are affected by this apparently.
Is it weird that I like it?
Thank you for posting this, I was really worried about the direct-flame resistance on this phone, I've lost so many phones to that!
Right? I’ve lost how many times I’ve accidentally put my phone on the grill and my burger in my pocket by accident
Are you firefighter? May be you have baby dragons? Are you living in Mordor? I need answers...
You shouldn't walk that close to lava anyway!
Come back to Earth dude, you can't live that long on Sun
So nice!
This will be a great phone to bring for when I eventually die.
Gotta be able to take selfies in hell right?
I cannot believe it didn’t give up. What an absolute beast. I’m blown away! This is real progress on folding phones.
It's very resilient
Samsung foldables flawlessly pass the test from a few years
I mean kinda made abit sense since the back portion of the frame was being pressed together, preventing more bending.
The smol screen would probably also not have cracked if he didn't press on the screen itself.
Progress for Motorola sure, but for all folding phones? No, since Samsung has passed multiple times before.
@@fcfcth
Exactly!
that front screen still working after all that and having only a couple lines, but still having an easily visible screen was pretty insane. itll be funny to see someone angrily slam a smart phone shut 😂
@@nichvo My Samsung galaxy had a small crack and the whole screen literally died.
Apple will never do a folding phone, that is too much innovation for them
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
@@AndreVictorGoncalvesor maybe they know its a gimmick.
@@tanjeeschuan4999 It's a gimmick with practical benefits.
As someone who just purchased this phone, I'm glad to see it not fare too badly in durability. Must say, this is quickly becoming my favorite phone ever - even more so than the original Razr back in the day.
Gotta agree. I bought this thinking "if it sucks I'll return it" but its just so fun to use. Moto has really outdone themselves with this one. If the camera and battery life were just a hair better this would be a perfect phone.
@@ezze-does-it ive been using the z flip 4 now for a year almost, cant go back to normal nonflip phones
I'm really considering buying it. However I'm a truck driver and I use my current phone for maps constantly. I was wondering can I use the small screen for maps?
@@TruckYeaDude93 yes, it is a lot more convenient too as far as holding/storing the phone. Only downside is you can't really look ahead very well
The phone is absolutely great. Have it for a few days now and the formfactor combined with the fully standalone front display is a game changer for me.
I have been using the RAZR+ now for a couple weeks, and I am definitely impressed with it. Seeing this video made me feel a bit better about the durability too lol
how about now?
Just picked one up only problem i fore see is the charhing port being to loose
1:54 I agree. I switched to a Nokia 225 4G a little while ago and I have felt so much better.
Since it's still functional I'd say it's about a 60% pass. If the screen broke like that, which looks likely, it would need replacement or repairs quickly but it would work until then. Still a hard pass from me
i would fail it's ass because that front screen has such a huge oversight
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M you can buy parts for every other razr why would this one be any different?
@@aqua-bery when in the real world is the hinge being bent backwards with enough force to shatter the back glass without severe misuse?
@@aqua-berymy love I've dropped my RAZR+ with no case on concrete with no issues. This test is intentionally designed to destroy the phone and not really what would happen in day to day. I would say this phone is more durable than my iPhone XR (the last iPhone I bought).
I've gone without a case since I got it and it has no cracks or visible scratches. I could never do the same with any of my previous smart phones.
The Motorola RAZR+ is the best phone I've ever had in my entire life🤗This phone is about experience it gives you in reality😉 People are excited to see me and my cool folding mini phone especially in the Magenta color💖❣️💖
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M the problem was never finding replacement parts it was getting Motorola to work on his phone
“Is still funcional just a little damage”
Aren’t we all!??
Getting roasted here I never expected 😅
I don't think the spot that caved in would do that when folded and sat on. That was a very specific pressure point due to trying to bend the hinge the wrong direction. I say it's a pass, especially with all that dirt you threw in there. I'm impressed.
I agree with your observation
I have a feeling it can still happen. A weak spot for glass is not negligible.
Into that empty area does swell the inside flexible screen, but that's not going to give any more backing to that external half-screen. The phone looks pretty good otherwise, especially the hinge itself, but Motorola could have easily put a thin metal sheet behind the screen there, not lost much space inside for the folding screen, and greatly strengthened that area. It think it would fail pretty much the same when folded if you squeezed on it in the same place.
@@GregConquest I can personally vouch for this happening. I had the phone folded inside of a pocket in the rear waistband of my skirt. When I pulled the phone out the outside screen was badly cracked about a finger's-width up from the hinge. I thought maybe the pressure from the pocket zipper pull had pressed against it but it's not possible to have the pull hit the folded phone in the location the crack occurred. There is definitely a give in the glass on the spot where it's cracked so it appears to be a pressure crack. I called Motorola support but without the pricey accident care protection (that I turned down thinking I wouldn't need it and would just pay for a repair caused by a drop) they refuse to help me. I believe this is a defect in the phone that others will experience - a phone should not fail when in a padded pocket! After years of using LG phones I returned to a Motorola thinking the durability would be adequate on this phone, barring drops, of course. Boy was I wrong. Thumbs down to Motorola, and a warning to those who keep the phone in your pocket - pressure against the outside glass towards the hinge area WILL break the glass. Ugh.
The thing best about Jerry is that he doesn't add some annoying background sound and only focus on the phone❤.
I just bought this phone a few days ago and I love it. The charging time is absolutely insane. I walked outside for 5 minutes with a dead battery and it was like 20 percent charged when I came in. I bought a case on Amazon for 14 dollars and I'm honestly not too worried about breaking it. I am worried about getting dirt in the hinge though.
Same. Loving the phone, tho I'm not running a case.
This was literally the first ever video I saw from this man, and while I could tolerate the screen scratching test, seeing him pull that blade along the aluminum frame made me literally wince in shock and emotional pain. Needless to say, I do not think you went easy on this durability test, hats off?
Took me many videos to not be uncomfortable watching him tbh. Lol
@@HazewinDogtook me like a month during the pandemic
@@ultama. ah yes, that'll speed things up!
What’s even crazier is that the front screen still mostly works after destroying it😂
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
@@thewatchmenzand yet I see girls with their phone shoved in their back pocket all day long. That screen would shatter pretty quick with someone sitting on it.
@@thewatchmenz or you know, if someone accidentally sat on it or something. not everyone does everything intentionally
@@williamreynolds6132exactly
@@thewatchmenz That also gives a kind of durability test for the hinge though. That thing needs to be functionally working near to 50,000 times or more. Have you ever seen a foldable that has been kept in generic store for a longer periods, that has been used by a lot of people. They have visible scratch crease on the screen just after being folded.
"it's just a little damaged *aren't we all?*"
gold
I posted this as a reply to someone else's comment but wanted to make it more visible to others thinking of purchasing this phone. I can personally say that a crack from pressure on the outside screen IS happening. I had the phone folded inside of a pocket in the rear waistband of my skirt. When I pulled the phone out the outside screen was badly cracked about a finger's-width up from the hinge. I thought maybe the pressure from the pocket zipper pull had pressed against it but it's not possible to have the pull hit the folded phone in the location the crack occurred. There is definitely a give in the glass on the spot where it's cracked so it appears to be a pressure crack. I called Motorola support but without the pricey accident care protection (that I turned down thinking I wouldn't need it and would just pay for a repair caused by a drop) they refuse to help me. I believe this is a defect in the phone that others will experience - a phone should not fail when in a padded pocket! After years of using LG phones I returned to a Motorola thinking the durability would be adequate on this phone, barring drops, of course. Boy was I wrong. Thumbs down to Motorola, and a warning to those who keep the phone in your pocket - pressure against the outside glass towards the hinge area WILL break the glass. Ugh.
RIP LG phones. :( I abused the hell out of my LG phones and all my old LG phones I have in drawers are still fully functional but sadly too old and slow for use today. Shame the lack of software support results in e-waste that otherwise would be fully functional.
My daily drivers now are the Microsoft Surface Duo 2 and a Samsung A42(work phone).
I'm literally watching this on my RAZR Plus and I'm pretty sure my heartbeat stopped a few times during this video. Guess I'm going on Amazon ASAP and finding a rugged case lol
I'd give it a 7 out of 10 pass. Both screens still worked and the hinge held up.
The one that is broken will go full black after a while. I had 2 phones in my house break due to damage from falling and they do work for a few hrs but then they go black later.
It is a sort of slow process but you can see the discoloration of the screen set and it goes full blue the keep becoming darker till it's fully black.
@@MrPopo-kn3lx Were they Samsungs? Mine had a tiny crack and the screen died straight away. My wife's iphone still continues after being completely shattered.
@@Brukn0ws one was samsung, the other was asus (good chance that asus uses samsung displays too)
They sort of had their display layer damaged I think. If there is just glass crack then it would work
@@MrPopo-kn3lx idk i had an galaxy s8 and im a phone abuser. after 2 years with cracked, thrown, shattered screen, still worked. Then i turned it into a flip phone and no longer works.
@@Brukn0wsSamsung makes the displays for iPhone and their own stuff, so the phone brand is pretty irrelevant
id call that a pass. it didnt actually fail the "bend" test, but rather the pressure from your finger test
tbh, this might be worse. you are more likely to sit on our phone than bend it in half.
@@nvcn86Yeah. Some bad luck with where a button lands, and it will pop just like the one in this video.
This was always a problem with phones that have a glass back, it's worse when it's also a screen.
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
@@nvcn86 but not at the same level of single focus of pressure your thumb would give
Honestly, after the sand test I was already sold. But the fact that the exterior screen broke first is also a plus. With general care I can see this phone lasting a long time before you need another one.
This is an absolute win for Motorola. The hinge is perfect!
I literally fell asleep just after waking up while watching this
Going on your phone after waking up is not good for your brain. Trust me after getting less addictive to my phone ive gotten so much happier.
I was not expecting it to survive that well. Hats off to MOTOROLA!
Samsung:
Why on earth would you say that? Moto was first.
@@jasonholliFirst for wut
Everything really.
First cell phone call.
First phone.
First flip.
RAZR.
First 5G phone.
First 5G flip.
@@jasonholli Look at the folding live stream ft. Razr 40 Ultra and Z Flip 5 and you Moto fanboy will not be happy
Who also turn the volume down on this part in every video of jerry 3:18
Me, every single time. I mute it and turn on captions
it's a pass from me, even with the broken exterior display, it still works and didn't die completely
I don't think I'll be able to sleep at night after watching this
I like how cell phones went from really expensive to fairly cheap back to being around $1000
I'm not sure how the fact that it depends on inflation and the type of "tier" of phone you buy flies over your head.
Most companies have perfectly working beautiful screens and all the works that one would need a phone to do this day and age for sub $200. And if that's not cheap enough there are phones of slightly less quality but still everything you need for $20-100.
The $1000 price tag is strictly for the enthusiasts, nobody NEEDS a super expensive flagship phone.
@@GRAITOM I’m talking about iPhones and Samsung galaxy’s they went from $1000 to $600ish back to $1000 wasn’t talking about inflation
@@qwertypoiuyt1 I know I'm late to say this but same goes for all the other phone brands such as Vivo, Xiaomi, Oppo and Oneplus. Their top tier phones still cost $1000+
@@JustAnotherFish543 yep it's crazy
I think the front screen also broke because of the metal pieces touching at the hinge. My guess is that through bending the phone backwards the metal part got pressed up against the outer screen, creating even more and a different direction of pressure, leading to it cracking under your thumb
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
@@thewatchmenz I will say, some of the concerns I've seen people post about the fragile nature of folding phones makes me question how some people actually care for their phones. Like sure, they'll break more easily than a regular phone, but phones in general are fairly fragile and should be handled with care regardless.
@@thewatchmenz to say he's the reason goes a bit too far. He's a reason alongside consumers wishing for longer battery life, a more premium feel and more premium materials. Also keeping newer chips cool makes coolers bigger and heavier
I suspect the pressure of the glass edges squeezing it in the reverse bend was what broke the screen. Your thumb went through the just shattered section with a lot of pressure, causing the big dent.
Im impressed how well the outside screen still worked after shattering.
It helps that the actual screen itself wasn't damaged, only the glass above the bezel.
Motorola is a solid brand. The Incredible Droid 2 was perfection for me.
My S22 Ultra is rad, but i have also Moto G Series that is a solid backup for that phone, damn impressive when you consider it being 1/6th of the cost.
I'm stoked to see them toeing ahead in these types of "real world" tests. They are the OG.
I think it did quite decently. It did good on the dust test , burn test was more than what i think a phone would usually be subjected to and the bend test had interesting results. I personally am a fan of Motorola with my first being the BackFlip which was a an inovation at it's time.
Damn, that did MUCH better than I'd expected. Good on Motorola for coming up with this solid hardware despite the flimsy yet flexible inner-screen. 👍🏼
My guess is that void behind the small screen is to accomodate the flexible screen when the phone is closed. As you showed when it is closed there's no gap in the hinge side so they've probably added those spaces to avoid pinching the flexible display when it is closed.
6:39 Judging by the size of the void, I don't think it had as much to do with the force of me bending the phone, but more just with *Nothing* being back there.
Nothing Phone: Don't look at me, I had nothing to do with this.
Funy 😆
I'd call it a fail considering the small screen can break so easily if force is applied to that weak spot. These flexible screens scratching at a 2 is crazy to me. You have to be absurdly careful with these phones. I generally am, but I like a bit of leeway lol.
Ahhh yes why don’t you develop folding glass then
How TF is this a fail??? Who on earth is going to be bending a phone backwards???? Nobody. That is the ONLY reason it shattered. Especially since he did another test where the phone was closed and he put pressure on the exact same spot and nothing happened.
First time i watched his video. And now i can't stop watching.. became a fan 👌
7:20 "Secondary backup screen inside" haha
It's astonishing to see the efforts and risks Zack puts up in making such a bend test. I mean Zack bending that broken and holed screen again by holding it from there. That's outstanding. Love you Zack.
Are you kidding me? it's impressive to you to press against a partially shattered glass that's still mostly intact and is unlikely to cut? What a risk. That's how far this soy generation got xD
Loving the outside display. Might come handy. It's a pass for me
Yeah it's a really good idea 💡
I actually have a phone that has the screen on the outside as well. And it's also quite big at 6.5"
@@wtfiswiththosehandles 6.5" is very functional for a full phone expect maybe for media consumption and typing but other than that, its indeed a great idea.
he is the reason why flagship lightweight phones have become very rare nowadays, theres absolutely no need to forcefully bend these phones, only an insane person would do that to their phone
it seems like the empty space behind the small screen is meant to be a cavity for the inner screen to bend inwards, as you mentioned it creates a tear drop fold when you close it.
It performed well than other foldables. Both screens didn’t gave up after so much torture.
That's a big win. Looks like an easy thing to correct in future iterations, and it is probably unlikely to break with normal use. I really like this phone, especially the outside screen.
Especially when you consider we probably aren't going to be bending the phones backwards. I saw a point made about what if someone sits on it, but I'm sure the pressure from that is much more even plus the phone is closed
Impressive. I'm considering a flip phone if they keep improving like this!
The 👀 at 1:52 brilliant
I laughed at that.🤣
Love watching you do, what i wish i could do. With the cost of these phones. You put me at ease when I'm going to look at getting a phone. I work construction so durability matters to me. Thanks for all the videos! :)
I'd say it's a pass, even though the outer screen turned into rubble, that screen still worked at the end, all while the inner screen remaining fully functional aside from that burn mark. Considering the normal person isn't going to be intentionally bending the phone in the opposite direction, it seems like it will last quite a bit.🤗 Always loving the videos Zack. Have a great day.
7:30 that dust sprinkle seemed personal ..
3:32 "We have our removable SIM card tray"
Imagine having a non-removable SIM card tray 😅
Apple is making it the standard next iphone in US 👀
esim exists already
Mobile companies are in need of test engineers like Jerry...👍👍
I have one of these and I love it! They spent time to get this done right and it's very good. Don't scratch it with a hardness detector.
I was listening with my headphones and at 7:01 i got scared.. on the left Headphone it sounds like someone is behind you, but he says with a distorted voice "aren't we all" referring to the phone being a little damaged.
Same
thanks for mentally preparing me for that
We are certainly seeing more foldable folds this year. Will be interesting to the see durability awards later this year 😊
"more foldable folds"? 😅
I reckon if he keeps doing these reverse hinge durability tests, someones going to come up with a 180° multi-directional foldable 😊
in tech we had to actually step back a few times so we can start walking up again.. reffering to features like water resistent (not) and the scratch test etc
I just got this phone and I'm glad to say its a very strong competitor! I love it ❤️
i feel like its a pass since it isnt the main screen that died. its still usable even though definitely less so than before. nice to see that motorola upped their game! hopefully the next model doesnt come with empty space inside and then its a really solid foldable.
Folding phones are starting to come a long way, even with Zacks stress testing 😂
They made this phone with you mind.
I gotta say the fact that the screen shattered and you picked out parts of it and it still works seems kinda impressive
I like the contrast...
Absolute distruction of gadgets paired with the voice like guided meditation
For foldable phones, you need to add an extra test. Add like a grain of sand to different parts of the screen (edges, center) and then fold it. See if there's any damage. Then fold again and apply a bit of pressure. This is important because this is something that can happen in real life. Some people even reported damaging their Pixel Fold this way too.
He is putting sand/dirt in it tho?
@@Yoon_gibiased Whatever he is putting in, is soft and breaks apart easily. It's more like dust. Sand on the other hand is coarse, rough, and it gets everywhere.
@@kuroodo_Okay, Anakin 😜
I like these videos but I always have to skip the razer scratch tests on the side metal. I can physically feel that sound
It's anoing 🙉
Considering where foldables are right now, I'd consider this a very good pass. It survived that sand torture tha was painful to watch and remained basically functional at the end.
Very good pass.
Where foldables are right now ? Samsung's foldable ever since the Fold 3 survived bending and dust 2 years before this Razr, actually be functional almost flawlessly after such abuse, unlike this one which got one screen broken.
Also the whole idea of the Razr plus is that you don't need to open the phone as often (to quote Motorola themselves: "If you're gonna open it all the time, you might as well buy a slab phone"), having their outer display, the main selling point, broken from just a finger pressing against them is just hilarous
actually one of the best pass videos ive watched for a foldable smartphone
6:09 Do you think maybe the pressure exerted by your thumb might’ve done the damage there? I agree that this is strange, but I’m trying to take some other factors into account.
Pass with caveat I think...
It's a real shame that a cavity causes this though, such an easy thing to fix
@4:15 its like watching a horror film.... NOOO STAAAWWWWPP NOT THE SAANDD.. THE DIRT.. THE GRIT... -SCREAMS-
Zack back with his awesome content, keep doing the awesome work
That void behind the exterior screen is a bit of a concern, but I'd call this a huge win compared to other folding phones! And the shattered outer screen still mostly works, even with that hole!
Exactly what other folding phones again ? The only foldables aside from Motorola that Zack has tested were from Samsung and Google iirc, and while the Pixel Fold got crushed, Samsung's Z-fold has survived without any outer display breaking since at least the Fold 3
@hoanganphanle Yeah, the Z Flip 3 and 4 did pretty well in his tests too. At least as well as this Moto if not a bit better. The only time I had any serious damage to my Z Flip 4 was when I was unlucky enough for it to slip out of my pocket at just the right angle for the corner of the hinge to hit pavement. I had to get the hinge repaired, but the screen didn't break even with my dad trying to force it to open all the way. That put extra pressure on the screen since it couldn't open the way it was designed to, but it didn't break. The Z Flips are tough for what they are. I just have to make sure it doesn't fall out of my pocket onto concrete. That's my only concern.
The Zack googly eyes selfie … I was not ready. Well played sir.
I’m surprised why phone companies don’t hire Zack to show up at their offices with his kit and do a durability test before they are released to the masses. Sounds like the obvious thing to do.
honestly it's usually because they spend millions on R&D and do testing all throughout that phase...also to be fair to companies some of his tests are unrealistic/unreasonable like the flame test (which Zack even admits is just for fun basically)
anyone can do it
They'd have to go back and start again lol
@@sdrtcacgnrjrc No they dont lol. Imagine putting a solid plastic cavity instead of that hole behind the front glass. Obvious structural design flaw. Im just a software engineer but I do hope any mechanical engineer can understand that.
@@akarshJD This is speculation, but it is important to note that the pressure that broke the glass was applied in a very specific way: a thumb pointing straight into the glass. It looked like if he situated his thumb elsewhere the crack wouldn't happen. Whereas in any other case of normal use, the pressure of perhaps sitting on it would be evenly distributed elsewhere to places with support.
Never knew Zack is a history buff... Thanks for the Moto history for us who grew up using their tech.
A Simple Google search would give you that information... He was making a video about a Motorola phone so he decided to look up some Motorola facts
The first mobile phone only took two weeks of engineering. The first call was by the boss of the company to his competitor, literally the first "First!" ever on a mobile device. But looking back now, people only care who's best
@@bramweinreder2346 Exactly! I like the competition but Moto is a legacy.
I think all things considered, this was a pass in my book. Yeah, that external screen broke, and yeah, it could have had better reinforcement, but the main screen is my concern and it seemed to do just fine. Still, I'm not jumping on the bandwagon of folding phones just yet, though :)
You should do a rematch with the 2024 Razr, I wonder what Motorola improved
Dude those grinding sound just makes me near death experience every single times
Id say its a partial pass because while it did break, bith screens still worked and it didnt fold both ways. However, the exterior screen did break but still mostly worked, so its not completely a fail there
You're right, people who use technology less are happier, however, trust me when I say that technology definitely isn't the cause of decreased happiness. The very moment life becomes more pleasurable to me than usual, I immediately get off the screen, so much so that there were even days when I almost completely forgot about the fact that my phone exists. If we want everyone to use technology less, we need to make sure everyone has enough hope to face life and its' difficulties, it would be ideal if life was at least a little easier to handle and contained at least a little more ups than downs. And, quite frankly, you are helping, Jerry, you really are. Keep up the good work, entertainment can turn darkness into brightness for most people.
Oooh the folded display is actually functioning like the normal phone, just in a 1:1 ratio. Thats awesome!
If the galaxy Z Flip 5 would have had this, i would have upgraded from my original Z flip already
But they'll probably do that in the next generation then
LITERALLY MY HEART CUDNT BEAR THE PAIN FROM THIS POINT ONWARDS 3:16
Finally another respectable foldable than Samsung, well done, if they will make it even waterproof I consider moving on razr from flip, even if I rlly like the colors and the looks of my flip 3, razr appears to be a bettef fit to my pretentions, of course except the colors and the unexpected flexibility of the smaller screen:))
The flip 4 has been the best phone I've ever had but mannnnn this does look soooo pretty!
Very impressive - even after all that the screen still came on and passed the bend test.
I love how nervous these videos can make you even when you know that he bought the phone just for testing
I have had my Motorola RAZR+ for a little over 2 weeks with no case and have dropped it multiple times on concrete and tile with only minor scratches.
I also accidentally threw the RAZR+ across the room where it hit the wall then ceramic tile floor when I ripped off the covers frantically searching for it on my bed so I won't be late for class lol 😂
It's so much more durable than my former galaxy z flip 4 that broke when dropped on carpet in a case. I had to replace my Flip 4 once a month because of durability issues even with a heavy duty case that covered every inch of the phone that wasn't the screen!
I'm so much more happier with the Motorola RAZR+ ☺️☺️☺️☺️
As somebody who used to repair various phone brands for years, this is not an easy thing to watch. But it`s really great that those butcher tests can help to uncover design flaws. Screen scratch tests are my favorite so far. I would never buy anything that damages that easily.
He’s the only man alive who’s not scared to stick his finger into a shattered glass
motorola makes super solid phones, ive had my phone for 4 or 5 years already and just recently cracked the back of the phone (i had no case all this time) and the screen is still intact so i can keep going for quite a while.
For a foldable device that comes with so many scary warnings, I think this is a pretty impressive result. I don't expect anybody to put a flame to their phone, so as long as you dont accidentally kneel on the phone while its folded (and shatter the front screen) it seems like this thing will take quite a lot of abuse and keep on kicking.
You need a JRE catch pan. Something like a half of a cookie sheet pan that has your Logo on it...
Something that would improve your claen up, safety for the young one's and just something else you can sell H.F. ( local tool stores) sells a little yellow tray that has a corner funnel for sorting things this might be a good example to be able to start with.
I'm in love with my Razr after 12 years dedication to Samsung. I'm so impressed with the Razr I can hardly express it. Such a fun & functional phone 😊
Ditch the outside screen and make the glass outside covers out of polycarbonate or glass fiber reinforced nylon and you would have a solid flip phone at a lower price.