Agreed. It also solves for an old gripe of mine: I hated how the Motorola logo would be upside-down any time I opened one of their flip phones. It only took 25 years to fix 😄
Moto is the king of ‘dumb, but great’. I remember when they released gestures to their phones before anyone did - and that ‘chop’ motion was coming and goofy to get the camera up, but it was brilliant (and looked dumb)
Samsung and Google's folds, ironically enough, are both arguably small phones. Yeah, the "point" of a fold is the large screen, and fair enough, that's what I use like 70% of the time. But the 6.2 inch diagonal size of my Z Fold is misleading, it's super narrow and excellent for one-handed use - the only phone I've ever comfortably been able to do swipe typing on, and it rests comfortably in my hand. The Pixel Fold's cover display, on the other hand, is basically like the iPhone Mini. Not a fan of the trend that folds are getting bigger in general, and I hope Samsung doesn't follow suit.
That's what I tell everyone when they ask me about it. It's not just an essential device. It's also a toy and makes me smile. Love my Razr! Gotta get the 2024. Also have dropped this thing about every week but the case I have on it keeps it safe and scratch-free.
Surprised to see you here Arun. I unsubscribed from your channel when you started documenting your marriage on your tech channel. The cringe was unbearable during those wedding scenes, and left me with a lasting trauma. Seeing you here brings back those memories. So stay away please!
Don't credit Motorola with the Pink Razr. The idea was that Razr was the "male" phone. Pebl was the "female" one, so the idea of a pink Razr went against the grain, but Charles Dunstone of Carphone Warehouse ordered 250,000 Razrs in pink. I was at Motorola, we thought he was mad, and when he asked for an exclusive on pink we gave it to him. Bear in mind that the forecast for global Razr sales was 800,000 units - well that's what the team told the portfolio committee. I later learned that they thought it would sell 300,000. Carphone went on to sell 3 million pink Razrs ane we bought the rights to pink back from Carphone.
If Motorola put any actual effort into updating their software in a timely manner and improving their camera quality, they'd be a huge contender in the smartphone space.
It's better now that it's three years instead of two but other than that, typical Moto fashion is to be quick on updates the first year, and then go to almost snail pace when the new version is out. Also when the support ends they are basically worthless. Even the kiosks I tried didn't want it.
Yeah, I was really disappointed when my Z3 Play never got the promised Android 10 update. Started with 8, ended with 9 for their most expensive phone in my country at the time. It was disappointing.
The camera should profit from a software update. Personally i use the zoom much more than the wide angle lens. Ao totally fine for me when the quality of the picture is good
@@ryokaix I've had my think phone since released and I'm still getting monthly updates. Perhaps it's because it was promoted as a business phone, but I've been very pleased. And it's been a great phone.
If anybody cares as we're watching this video, my razor 2023, which is an unlocked version is getting the android 14 update right now sadly my plus version that is on T-Mobile hasn't got it yet :P
Yeah, Motorola told us at the Razr '24 briefing that the Android 14 update was "imminent" but wouldn't commit to an exact date - and as I say in the video, they're too slow to release those updates anyway, as Samsung (and even Oppo!) are months faster.
That is quite sad. I know that new Android versions have lesser value than they had a few years ago but this level a support is unacceptable when Samsung gave Android 14 in December (I have a Fold 5, it was early December I think) and it consistently delivers monthly security updates. For a longer support period. At this price range these things matter, even if Samsung is sleeping on HW development (though both the Fold and Flip 5 are super sturdy at least).
@@Ignacio.Romero I agree, especially when I powered up my Motorola G stylus 2023 5G version and I forgot that it already got the android 14 update, I think they probably took a little longer because they are updating motor is UI....... But it's sad and we're still waiting for the razor +14 update but I am assuming it's in the works maybe other people from different parts of the US have already got android 14 for the razor 23+?
We're getting closer to that perfect sweet spot of a perfect budget foldable that lasts and has an actually decent durability record...guess we'll have to see how these hold up!
He's talking about lag right out of the box. That's very off putting to me. Late updates as well and only 3 of them. Also you trade a bigger battery and get a worst camera for the innovative design. I don't know man.... we’re dishing out massive money to these companies and they can’t give us the complete package.
You are the best mobile phone reviewer on the internet. Your voice is mesmerising. You just have that perfect speaking voice with all the information anyone could want. No background loud music. Just a fluent video. Keep up the good work. Greetings from a dreary, cloudy, rainy UK.
Currently using a galaxy S10+, clinging on to my 3.5mm and SD card. As a once moto x 2014 user, this razr feels like one of the few options that would be an upgrade beyond a spec sheet. Great video!
If the analog jack is important, you can get very good usb DACs nowadays. I own a moondrop dawn pro which works and sounds great for about 50 bucks. I have a usb c flash drive to offload big photo files onto which saves me a good deal of space.
I’m considering switching from my IPhone 14 to the Razr+!! Looks like so much fun to use and I remember my dad had the OG Razr when it first dropped so the nostalgia
Bro your voice and narrative are amazingly dazzling like a movie or video game narrators, maybe you can do podcast videos with other tech youtubers talk about every tech on the planet, i definitely will watch it
I have to say Michael, I appreciate your production value. It's so nice to hear commentary without the music being so loud it over powers things. And the video editing is on point. Thank you.
My favorite tech reviewer! Your videos are always so beautifully scripted and well-produced. I love the vibe of "chill and informative, but not boring". A lot of other tech videos have overstimulating effects, so I particularly appreciate you. Cheers!
I've loved my 2023 razr + (favorite phone ever) but I too got the interior screen crack after about 7 months. Moto fixed it for me with little hassle (other than initially arguing with call center people to get it fixed), but it was annoying. The new screen protector was the same as the new model btw - not having the stupid annoying cutout for the camera which just gathered grime and caught on things. Here's hoping the new hinge does indeed fix it. If so, the Razr+ 2024 with the bigger exterior screen will probably be the perfect phone. There's *just* enough times where I wish I had a bit more screen space when using the exterior one on my 23 version. The loss of ultra wide is kinda significant tho as I'm constantly having to back up with this camera as is.
While I would never buy a flip, I'm starting to get it. I've had a fold for nearly a year now, and I initially bought it because I wanted to fit as big of a screen in my pocket as possible - but I've come to love the narrow cover display as well. It's far easier to type with one hand than it ever was on a traditional phone. Right now I'm watering plants work one hand and typing a comment with the other, and that's something I never could have comfortably done on a slab. Having a display that's about ~2/3 the size of a typical modern phone, and also a display that's about 60% larger, it's a much better two in one combo than just "big screen, now give me $1800". While an even smaller screen than that doesn't interest me personally, I can understand the appeal now. Flips without a ~3 inch cover display still don't make any sense to me.
I owned a Z Flip 3 and Z Flip 4, and I enjoyed my time with them immensely. However a single drop onto carpet broke the Z Flip 4 hinge and I moved to a Pixel 8 due to availability and very aggressive pricing. And honestly, I have not looked back at the world of foldables. As fun as the folding experience was, there's no denying it was compromised and returning to a stress free phone that I can just chuck around has been liberating. Looking back at a phone with a crease is now an eyesore, even though it never bothered me while I was using it. The jump in outdoor screen brightness and camera quality was also very noticeable.
Yeah, they're certainly not for everyone. That said, I'm the opposite: I moved to foldables full-time starting in 2020 and haven't looked back. Every time I pick up a slab phone I'm immediately unfulfilled by either the limited screen real estate (compared to large-format foldables) or the pocket penalty (compared to flips). And while I agree about the fragility in general ... I toss around all my foldables without a case, and the majority of them have held up just fine. Ultimately, just glad there are options on the market for each of us! Choice is good.
It's been a long, LONG time since I have been THIS interested in a smartphone! This one hits the sweet spot in terms of evoking a genuine curiosity and awe, reminds me of my college days when new/whacky tech would excite me for days on end :) Will I be buying this one? I don't think so, not this iteration at least. The reason would be exactly what you had brought up in your vid as well- reliability. There's still some way to go in this regard for Motorola or any other flip phone manufacturer for that matter. Lovely vid as always, Mr. Mobile ! 💗 from India !
There's a potent irony in seeing so much lavish design going into the music player UI on these when I just bought a DAP to load all my music onto. Still, I was originally gonna get a Razr Plus 2023 on discount/refurb, but the "Minus" has far less compromises than I expected, so I might go for that instead. My only gripe is that I wish there was just one more colorway for the Minus, be it either the Magenta or Glacier from the Plus 2023 or something else. The one I'm considering the most is the koala grey for the texturing. All the different material types makes me wish they would go back and do bamboo backing again like the Moto X Gen 2
Not surprised to hear your issues w/ the repair! I recently got my fold 5 repaired (somehow separated the inner screen led and protector), and looking around told me Samsung has the same issue of not sending any details to them. After I made the appointment I just called the place and thankfully they had parts, but it sounds like it's an issue across multiple brands
It sticks magnetically to that charger - but I think it's incidental attraction from the magnets that hold the flip closed. There's no official Qi2 certification for Razr.
I've switched from my Galaxy S22 Ultra to the Razr 2024+ and I'm very happy with the switch! I find myself using the front screen so much, and it definitely cuts down on my doom scrolling. It's so practical. Call quality is better than my S22's was as well. I do miss the stylus and wide angle lense from time to time, but not enough to make me regret switching. Also, in my pocket, it's the same size as my wallet. It's great not having to fit a giant brick in there.
A Review for this riview - Good writing , no unwanted cringe jokes , Keeping things simple and to the point while still explaining everything. Michael fisher , ladies and gentlemen.. 👏👏👏👏
Honestly I appreciate the 2x telephoto over an ultrawide. I currently have a Pixel 7Pro, and I find myself very often wanting to punch into 2x to better frame shots indoors or in close proximity, or zooming in to catch something small or in the distance I can't approach, but the ultrawide is such a drop off in quality compared to the other cameras, and the added distortion means that I would almost always rather take a few steps back to use the wide angle. I do find myself really missing my iphone Xs old 2x camera, I think we think too much in zoom, and not enough in terms of focal length, and the 2-3x lenses typically produce much more pleasing portraits than cropping the main camera, regardless of any post effect blur being applied.
As a Razr 40 Ultra owner, I love the new 2x telephoto...the ultrawide in my phone is just so much worse than the normal wide angle lense, and the difference in scope is much smaller than it was with my previous Galaxy Z Flip3. The ultrawide is almost useless IMO. I agree 2x is not that much, but I use 2x zoom a lot, so for me it would be a great improvement. Maybe with the next generation they could do 5x, at least that would be my hope.
I fully agree. I use the zoom so much more often than the wide angle. People complaining dont make much photos in my opinion. I hate the bad sensors on the wide angle most phones have. When you need a bigger shot - go into panorama mode. Boooom problem solved 😂
agree , telephoto is better than ultrawide. ultrwide is useless, telephoto is good for portrait photography 📸. I'm using z 6 flip and ultrawide camera is useless.. telephoto is better i see some camera reviews. motorola portrait shot is better than z6 flip
Do these have Pixel Call Screening? I understand that some Motorola phones do but can't find a definitive list. Additionally do they have video out via USB-C?
Pixel Call Screening is one of the main reasons I'm still keeping my Pixel 7 Pro. I've been thinking about trying a foldable for the easier pocketability, but I absolutely love this feature and am not sure I could do without it at this point. If the Razr shipped with this feature I'd be all over it.
@@saviordream I switched from Pixel to a OnePlus. I love the phone but the only thing I miss is Call Screening. It's so frustrating that there isn't an easy to find list. When you do a web search half the results are "ONLY PIXEL PHONES HAVE IT THAT'S WHY IT'S PIXEL CALL SCREEN!" which is wrong or "EVERY PHONE HAS IT IT'S JUST THE GOOGLE PHONE APP!" which is wrong.
call me devil's advocate but I actually liked when there was no screen on the outside except a small lcd that can show the called ID, I wish they would make this model again for us who want a simple flip phone
In this very specific case the razr+ has been missing an aod on the outer screen which is a really dumb oversight. But yeah, apart from that I don't get it either
Interesting hearing your comments on the durability of Razr 40 Ultra! Ordered mine thru EE in UK Nov23, By march 24 the screen protector was lifting just above the hinged area. EE sent it away to be repaired and eventually (due to no screens available) arrived back and the screen no longer had the notch! Now I am aware of tiny lines across the hinged area in the screen protector. Which begs the question how durable are foldable phones in general! I do love the compactness of it folded & produced some lovely photos on a recent trip to New York! Enjoy your thorough reviews so thanks from the UK👍
Canada here, had to send mine away for a lifting screen protector in May and it arrived back without the notch! And now is going back again for the same issue 😭 Spending a lot more time with my backup Pixel 5 than I'd hoped 😅
Hell yes. Thank you mr mobile. Ive been eyeing this phone to replace my s23 ultra after realizing my healthy lifestyle has made me less attached to the latest and greatest so to speak. Like i dont need to be on my phone 24/7 to breathe anymore like i did 4 years ago before i started lifting😊. I got my eye on this. The s22 cat flip And the nokia 21 something rugged phone
@@TheMrMobile imo the best part of a .5 lens is the absolutely goofy pictures i can take of my cats and friends. The fish-eye effect is so funny and i use that 10x more than i would be zooming into far-away shots
I own the 2022 Razor and love it. For me far better than my wife's z flip 4 (apart from camera) but it's not a bad one. Her phone has been sent back twice due to the screen cover splitting. Not had the issue on my razor. I'm looking at a bigger phone for my next upgrade as miss my duo but if I don't I think I'll go back with moto
I kinda wish Motorola would launch their phones with more storage or at least an sd card slot. Even 256gb of storage would start feeling a bit cramped for me...
I've already been considering these for one of my next phones. I've been using flagships from Google, Samsung, OnePlus, and back to the very much missed LG and HTC. Ahhh, the HTC One M8 still brings a smile to my face. I've just started "taking an inventory" of features I actually use and like the idea of a foldable that doesn't cost me a kidney to own. The Motorola Razrs seem to check all of my boxes.
@@sipenarekbecha7193, probably the best phone I've ever owned. Obviously the specs wouldn't meet today's standard, it's over a decade old now, but for the time, it was ahead of everything else. The phone was made with aircraft aluminum. Not only was it a great looking phone, but it was indestructible, even with a slim case.
@@mikeoleksa I think the speaker was great too (at least for its time then), how about the UI ? As far as I remembered, it has a unique theme/homescreen right ?
Nice addition of showing the older phones and the original Razr in the video. Great stuff. At 7:28 no other channel that I've seen on these phones has mentioned this. Thank you. I'm looking forward to trying out the 2024 Razr+ due to the updates they've made.
I just hope someone makes a CONTROLLER for it but not horizontal as usual, instead vertical. So when closed you can play 4:3 old consoles on the outer screen. flip it open and now can also emulate consoles like Nintendo DS.
No Qi2 certification, but it does stick to that charger pretty well. If I had to guess, it's probably incidental attraction from the magnets that hold the flip closed.
@@TheMrMobile thanks for the Info! I really hope, that android Phones start using Qi2 soon, than i dont have to put those ugly magsafe stickers on the back of my phone anymore.
The problem with these new smartphone (all brands included) are the fixed storage and no new storage option.😠 What happen when you move from the Razr 2022 to this one ? If it's almost full, you just don't want to start over. A Micro SD slot will solve the problem 💯. It should be legally mandatory now, to have one on every new smartphone💯.
I love the idea of a flip smartphone like this but and I’m sure I’m in the minority but I would prefer it without the cover screen. To me the whole point would be to rock a touchscreen smartphone that folds nicely into my pocket but without the need to a protection or case. The outside plastic when closed would be enough for me to keep it safe like an old school razor, with no need for a case. With this large outer screen, I now have something else to cover and protect.
Motorola was the Highlight of my Teen Years having a Flip back in the Day was the cool thing before iPhones killed that love… But my Love of Motorola never died currently rocking the Edge 2024. Will I ever return to Moto Flip?… Never say Never I probably will just for old times sake! 😊 Great coverage and how have I never heard of you before. Subscribed!
What are your thoughts on the power button placement? I'm on the 2023 Razr+ and I've never had more "pocket dials" and other apps opening that I don't want. I came over from Pixel 5a so naturally, I've been unsurprisingly unimpressed with my Razr+'s camera and other hardware. BUT, that said, more than I care to count: my phone has fallen from my bike's top-tube bag on singletrack and even on paved rail-trails (my fault for not securing the bag) and the phone survived mostly unscathed. I don't have a case for it (didn't like any of the ones I tried) and the only scratch is on the outside screen and I can't recall how that happened. Now, on rides when I need a fast camera with excellent pictures, I bring my 5a along for the ride...which is why I got the RAZR+: for the smaller footprint...now, I'm bringing two phones.
I've never commented on a review video before, from anyone, but damn, Mr. Fisher's review videos are always hands down the best produced, well thought out videos I've ever seen. I watch all the big TH-cam tech reviewers and Mr Mobile is absolutely the very best. Bravo dude!
14:44 That complete full display on the cover screen is a bold step from Motorola but it is the right decision. The full display must be captivating (I suppose in personal experience) whenever you make a quick glance at it. The bigger display must be providing extra flexibility when navigating the screen. From my position the display is gorgeous each time I watch every review of the Motorola Razr 50. And it is very wise for Motorola to make all the necessary polishing and refinement of their flip phone to win the hearts of more customers. 😎💯👍🏾💪🏾
Michael Fiaher and foldables is never ending love story, only Michael gives best foldables review because he is the only one who loves them and use them in tech world.
Looking forward to the fold 6 review. I decided to upgrade from my fold3 finally (also use the flip5 for daily at work for the size) so I'm looking forward to your opinion on it.
3:50 is the screen flicker on the cheaper model just the camera playing tricks on us, or does the more expensive model have a flicker-free screen? I understand it wouldn't be this bad in-person, but I'm personally quite sensitive to screen flicker.
@@tremarley9648 It's not so much just the OS updates as it shows how well a company is going to support their products. Moto has been horrible on that front and they are showing zero signs of fixing this. You spend that kind of cash on a phone, you need to know it's going to be supported. If it isn't, well, just buy a Chinese flip phone then, you'll get the same level of "support" from there as well.
Crazy that companies still don't do propper updates in 2024. It's literally the reason why I switched to apple in the first place. The first three or so phones I owned a decade ago stopped receiving updates about a year after release and were barely useable after two. My iphone 6s is still sitting on a shelf somewhere and I know that when I boot it up it will still be somewhat usable.
I am still not convinced by foldable phones but they do seem to be improving my main concerns is the fragile screens that all the reviewers leave out and battery life can be worse than a standard phone particularly in this flip format
Tele!!! I have 0 use for ultra wide on my phone I wish if they were going to do only 2 cameras it would be 35mm standard and 75-100mm tele. I want this for ALL PHONES! people look horrible taken on less than 35mm! Everyone should follow Nubia and make 35mm the standard!
I've been an iPhone user for years. Coming from iPhone 12 Pro, I'm now daily driving the orange razr 2024 and am very impressed by both the phone and Android. I plan to use both unlocked phones but am making the razr my primary. The outside screen is great to use for many apps. Loving it so far. Will see how the hinge and crease hold up over the coming months. The crease is surprisingly small and hardly noticeable is normal usage.
7:24 does the hinge work better than the previous ones I hope? the screen crease decay on the z flip style phones is really bad the razr 5g 2020 still seems like the best implementation mine still hasn’t got a crease nearing 4 years
I did it. I pulled the trigger on the Razr+. Thankfully I've had you showing me all the flips since they came to fruition. That made the decision to jump in on foldables in this moment with this phone simple. Thank you for all the help and entertainment.
Can I just say I appreciate you actually using a good aspect ratio I. Your videos for how phones screens are these days! 16 x 9 just doesn’t cut it anymore
Winamp...SO MANY YEARS since I thought of it, that used to be such a big part of my computing life back in the day. Here's to go the good Ole' days of Demonoid, Limewire, and Napster
I stumbled on this video by accident, but I’m glad I did. I was on the ground floor with Motorola phones, and I do miss their industrial designs from that era. The RAZR+ appeals to me because of the straightforward no-nonsense feature set. Sometimes less is better. ✌️
Ive had every Z flip available and every single one of them has ended it's life due to wear and tear. My current Z flip 5 has a yellow line going half way across the crease due to a minor drop 8 months ago, as well as a deep scratch on the screen also along the crease. The camera lense is also cracked as is the cover screen. As much as I love foldable phones I think im ready to switch back to normal ones. The cameras and battery life are the main problem, lagging behind competitors and the unique aspect ratio makes common apps like snapchat a pain to use. Durability is also a major issue with every phone developing some sort of issue along the crease after around half a year to a year of use. The cover screen for me doesn't offer enough features as of right now to make the phone worth the sacrifices and I sometimes use it simply to make use of it. Give it 5 years and I believe these phones will be fantastic, right now though is too early.
I've seen this phone in person. It's beautiful, and the display is also. And this the base razr im speaking of. I just got the new galaxy fold 6 and as in love as i am with it, im considering the razr for my second (backup) line. Samsung and Motorola have typically been my go to Android devices.
That rotating moto logo falls beautifully into that "dumb, but great" category that not enough software design hits anymore
Agreed. It also solves for an old gripe of mine: I hated how the Motorola logo would be upside-down any time I opened one of their flip phones. It only took 25 years to fix 😄
I like to call such flourishes "that perfect level of unnecessary detail."
Moto is the king of ‘dumb, but great’. I remember when they released gestures to their phones before anyone did - and that ‘chop’ motion was coming and goofy to get the camera up, but it was brilliant (and looked dumb)
That's what won me over. If they stay silly, my next phone will be the 2025 Razr
reminds me of Rolls-Royce wheel caps
Modern day flippables are really the only sort of small phone we have left.
Yep! I used a whole video to make this point a few years back.
Japanese keitai phones though !!
Don't forget Unihertz!
Samsung and Google's folds, ironically enough, are both arguably small phones.
Yeah, the "point" of a fold is the large screen, and fair enough, that's what I use like 70% of the time. But the 6.2 inch diagonal size of my Z Fold is misleading, it's super narrow and excellent for one-handed use - the only phone I've ever comfortably been able to do swipe typing on, and it rests comfortably in my hand. The Pixel Fold's cover display, on the other hand, is basically like the iPhone Mini.
Not a fan of the trend that folds are getting bigger in general, and I hope Samsung doesn't follow suit.
There is unihertz jelly max
Yet to come though
Foldables are literally the moden day equivilent of "when phones where fun" and I'm all for it!
Until it break
@@LucasTOrz"breaks"
@@carlhaldeman420"pretentious"
That's what I tell everyone when they ask me about it. It's not just an essential device. It's also a toy and makes me smile. Love my Razr! Gotta get the 2024.
Also have dropped this thing about every week but the case I have on it keeps it safe and scratch-free.
MPFA - Make Phones Fun Aagain.... :D
If Moto AI ends up being as poor as their software updates we're in for a treat 😂
Hardware does look awesome for the price tho, great video 👌
Hey I didn’t expect you here, Arun! Greetings!
Much obliged, man!
Surprised to see you here, Arun!
Surprised to see you here Arun. I unsubscribed from your channel when you started documenting your marriage on your tech channel. The cringe was unbearable during those wedding scenes, and left me with a lasting trauma. Seeing you here brings back those memories. So stay away please!
@@vaastafraja5685 I love this😭
Don't credit Motorola with the Pink Razr. The idea was that Razr was the "male" phone. Pebl was the "female" one, so the idea of a pink Razr went against the grain, but Charles Dunstone of Carphone Warehouse ordered 250,000 Razrs in pink. I was at Motorola, we thought he was mad, and when he asked for an exclusive on pink we gave it to him. Bear in mind that the forecast for global Razr sales was 800,000 units - well that's what the team told the portfolio committee. I later learned that they thought it would sell 300,000. Carphone went on to sell 3 million pink Razrs ane we bought the rights to pink back from Carphone.
Oh you OG 🙌
What a cool slice of history, thank you for sharing!
Can u answer a call without opening the phone up
@@donaldfincham1620yes
If Motorola put any actual effort into updating their software in a timely manner and improving their camera quality, they'd be a huge contender in the smartphone space.
I have a Moto think phone and they have been good about updating it.
It's better now that it's three years instead of two but other than that, typical Moto fashion is to be quick on updates the first year, and then go to almost snail pace when the new version is out. Also when the support ends they are basically worthless. Even the kiosks I tried didn't want it.
Yeah, I was really disappointed when my Z3 Play never got the promised Android 10 update. Started with 8, ended with 9 for their most expensive phone in my country at the time. It was disappointing.
The camera should profit from a software update.
Personally i use the zoom much more than the wide angle lens.
Ao totally fine for me when the quality of the picture is good
@@ryokaix I've had my think phone since released and I'm still getting monthly updates. Perhaps it's because it was promoted as a business phone, but I've been very pleased. And it's been a great phone.
Nice to see at least one manufacturer is producing phone colors people actually want, rather than shit like "Sandstone", "Mauve", and "Civil Twilight"
you are the only one still talking about call quality on the reviews.....thanks for that Mr.Mobile!!!
4:14 Wow I really didn't expect a Winamp reference in this Motorola smartphone video. Man, good memories ❤
Yeah... blast from the past!
Same here
It really whips the....
Here's to old nerds
I swapped from 15 pro max to razr 2024 non+ and I'm happy as heck. Going on almost 2 months
If anybody cares as we're watching this video, my razor 2023, which is an unlocked version is getting the android 14 update right now sadly my plus version that is on T-Mobile hasn't got it yet :P
Yeah, Motorola told us at the Razr '24 briefing that the Android 14 update was "imminent" but wouldn't commit to an exact date - and as I say in the video, they're too slow to release those updates anyway, as Samsung (and even Oppo!) are months faster.
I like to call those "the perfect unnecessary details."
That is quite sad. I know that new Android versions have lesser value than they had a few years ago but this level a support is unacceptable when Samsung gave Android 14 in December (I have a Fold 5, it was early December I think) and it consistently delivers monthly security updates. For a longer support period. At this price range these things matter, even if Samsung is sleeping on HW development (though both the Fold and Flip 5 are super sturdy at least).
Only took them an entire year
@@Ignacio.Romero I agree, especially when I powered up my Motorola G stylus 2023 5G version and I forgot that it already got the android 14 update, I think they probably took a little longer because they are updating motor is UI....... But it's sad and we're still waiting for the razor +14 update but I am assuming it's in the works maybe other people from different parts of the US have already got android 14 for the razor 23+?
We're getting closer to that perfect sweet spot of a perfect budget foldable that lasts and has an actually decent durability record...guess we'll have to see how these hold up!
Right? 699 for a flagship foldable? That's insane!
He's talking about lag right out of the box. That's very off putting to me. Late updates as well and only 3 of them. Also you trade a bigger battery and get a worst camera for the innovative design. I don't know man.... we’re dishing out massive money to these companies and they can’t give us the complete package.
He said last years videos lagged @@ka3097
You are the best mobile phone reviewer on the internet. Your voice is mesmerising. You just have that perfect speaking voice with all the information anyone could want. No background loud music. Just a fluent video. Keep up the good work. Greetings from a dreary, cloudy, rainy UK.
Currently using a galaxy S10+, clinging on to my 3.5mm and SD card.
As a once moto x 2014 user, this razr feels like one of the few options that would be an upgrade beyond a spec sheet.
Great video!
how good is your wired audio there, sir ? I prefer the 3.5 audio jack too TBH
If the analog jack is important, you can get very good usb DACs nowadays. I own a moondrop dawn pro which works and sounds great for about 50 bucks. I have a usb c flash drive to offload big photo files onto which saves me a good deal of space.
I’m considering switching from my IPhone 14 to the Razr+!! Looks like so much fun to use and I remember my dad had the OG Razr when it first dropped so the nostalgia
I just switched from Apple to the 2024 Razr, and I'm never going back! This phone is definitely fun, super-customizable, and powerful!
Bro your voice and narrative are amazingly dazzling like a movie or video game narrators, maybe you can do podcast videos with other tech youtubers talk about every tech on the planet, i definitely will watch it
He reminds me of the Rome Total War narrator. In the good and great way.
I have to say Michael, I appreciate your production value. It's so nice to hear commentary without the music being so loud it over powers things. And the video editing is on point. Thank you.
First time I am feeling like buying a flip phone especially that green color 🥰
This is a good offering from Motorola.
I love the orange and blue ones
I just got the plus2023 and I love it.
My favorite tech reviewer! Your videos are always so beautifully scripted and well-produced. I love the vibe of "chill and informative, but not boring". A lot of other tech videos have overstimulating effects, so I particularly appreciate you. Cheers!
Agree. This dude is chill and he got me into the foldables. Never looking back. Thank God for Motorola 🙏
I love how my Flip 4 fits in my pocket folded - all these giant phones feel like giant bricks. Maybe I will upgrade to a Razr once mine conks out.
1:33 That wallpaper really doesn't look right with the two cameras
Oof
Just noticed that haha!
benis
I didn't notice that until I read your comment. 🤣
😂😂😂
Fisher’s folding phones again, everybody grab your snacks
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I've loved my 2023 razr + (favorite phone ever) but I too got the interior screen crack after about 7 months. Moto fixed it for me with little hassle (other than initially arguing with call center people to get it fixed), but it was annoying. The new screen protector was the same as the new model btw - not having the stupid annoying cutout for the camera which just gathered grime and caught on things. Here's hoping the new hinge does indeed fix it.
If so, the Razr+ 2024 with the bigger exterior screen will probably be the perfect phone. There's *just* enough times where I wish I had a bit more screen space when using the exterior one on my 23 version. The loss of ultra wide is kinda significant tho as I'm constantly having to back up with this camera as is.
While I would never buy a flip, I'm starting to get it.
I've had a fold for nearly a year now, and I initially bought it because I wanted to fit as big of a screen in my pocket as possible - but I've come to love the narrow cover display as well. It's far easier to type with one hand than it ever was on a traditional phone. Right now I'm watering plants work one hand and typing a comment with the other, and that's something I never could have comfortably done on a slab.
Having a display that's about ~2/3 the size of a typical modern phone, and also a display that's about 60% larger, it's a much better two in one combo than just "big screen, now give me $1800". While an even smaller screen than that doesn't interest me personally, I can understand the appeal now.
Flips without a ~3 inch cover display still don't make any sense to me.
I owned a Z Flip 3 and Z Flip 4, and I enjoyed my time with them immensely. However a single drop onto carpet broke the Z Flip 4 hinge and I moved to a Pixel 8 due to availability and very aggressive pricing. And honestly, I have not looked back at the world of foldables. As fun as the folding experience was, there's no denying it was compromised and returning to a stress free phone that I can just chuck around has been liberating. Looking back at a phone with a crease is now an eyesore, even though it never bothered me while I was using it. The jump in outdoor screen brightness and camera quality was also very noticeable.
Yeah, they're certainly not for everyone. That said, I'm the opposite: I moved to foldables full-time starting in 2020 and haven't looked back. Every time I pick up a slab phone I'm immediately unfulfilled by either the limited screen real estate (compared to large-format foldables) or the pocket penalty (compared to flips). And while I agree about the fragility in general ... I toss around all my foldables without a case, and the majority of them have held up just fine.
Ultimately, just glad there are options on the market for each of us! Choice is good.
Do you think the flip 6 will best the razr again this year?
@@TheMrMobile - just curious...do you mean that you literally just toss your foldables around?
@@TheMrMobileyes, very curious how durable the razr is. I'm a farmer and tend to bang stuff around. Id love something like this though
It's been a long, LONG time since I have been THIS interested in a smartphone! This one hits the sweet spot in terms of evoking a genuine curiosity and awe, reminds me of my college days when new/whacky tech would excite me for days on end :)
Will I be buying this one? I don't think so, not this iteration at least. The reason would be exactly what you had brought up in your vid as well- reliability. There's still some way to go in this regard for Motorola or any other flip phone manufacturer for that matter.
Lovely vid as always, Mr. Mobile ! 💗 from India !
Dude you just won the internet with the "it really whips the llama." I love it. You gave me the feels.
There's a potent irony in seeing so much lavish design going into the music player UI on these when I just bought a DAP to load all my music onto.
Still, I was originally gonna get a Razr Plus 2023 on discount/refurb, but the "Minus" has far less compromises than I expected, so I might go for that instead. My only gripe is that I wish there was just one more colorway for the Minus, be it either the Magenta or Glacier from the Plus 2023 or something else. The one I'm considering the most is the koala grey for the texturing. All the different material types makes me wish they would go back and do bamboo backing again like the Moto X Gen 2
Not surprised to hear your issues w/ the repair! I recently got my fold 5 repaired (somehow separated the inner screen led and protector), and looking around told me Samsung has the same issue of not sending any details to them. After I made the appointment I just called the place and thankfully they had parts, but it sounds like it's an issue across multiple brands
Does it have the ability to magnetically stick to wireless charger (at 14:21)? If so I had no idea that the Motorolas could do that.
Was that qi 2 on the wireless charging shot or just friction?
It sticks magnetically to that charger - but I think it's incidental attraction from the magnets that hold the flip closed. There's no official Qi2 certification for Razr.
I've switched from my Galaxy S22 Ultra to the Razr 2024+ and I'm very happy with the switch! I find myself using the front screen so much, and it definitely cuts down on my doom scrolling. It's so practical. Call quality is better than my S22's was as well. I do miss the stylus and wide angle lense from time to time, but not enough to make me regret switching. Also, in my pocket, it's the same size as my wallet. It's great not having to fit a giant brick in there.
A Review for this riview - Good writing , no unwanted cringe jokes , Keeping things simple and to the point while still explaining everything.
Michael fisher , ladies and gentlemen.. 👏👏👏👏
Honestly I appreciate the 2x telephoto over an ultrawide. I currently have a Pixel 7Pro, and I find myself very often wanting to punch into 2x to better frame shots indoors or in close proximity, or zooming in to catch something small or in the distance I can't approach, but the ultrawide is such a drop off in quality compared to the other cameras, and the added distortion means that I would almost always rather take a few steps back to use the wide angle.
I do find myself really missing my iphone Xs old 2x camera, I think we think too much in zoom, and not enough in terms of focal length, and the 2-3x lenses typically produce much more pleasing portraits than cropping the main camera, regardless of any post effect blur being applied.
As a Razr 40 Ultra owner, I love the new 2x telephoto...the ultrawide in my phone is just so much worse than the normal wide angle lense, and the difference in scope is much smaller than it was with my previous Galaxy Z Flip3. The ultrawide is almost useless IMO. I agree 2x is not that much, but I use 2x zoom a lot, so for me it would be a great improvement. Maybe with the next generation they could do 5x, at least that would be my hope.
I fully agree. I use the zoom so much more often than the wide angle.
People complaining dont make much photos in my opinion. I hate the bad sensors on the wide angle most phones have.
When you need a bigger shot - go into panorama mode. Boooom problem solved 😂
I also think it's a "have kids" or "don't have kids" difference. Without my telephoto on my Pixel, I'd miss a lot of great memories.
agree , telephoto is better than ultrawide. ultrwide is useless, telephoto is good for portrait photography 📸. I'm using z 6 flip and ultrawide camera is useless.. telephoto is better i see some camera reviews. motorola portrait shot is better than z6 flip
I still lament the loss of the RAZR's truly unique design after the RAZR 2020.
Do these have Pixel Call Screening? I understand that some Motorola phones do but can't find a definitive list.
Additionally do they have video out via USB-C?
Pixel Call Screening is one of the main reasons I'm still keeping my Pixel 7 Pro. I've been thinking about trying a foldable for the easier pocketability, but I absolutely love this feature and am not sure I could do without it at this point. If the Razr shipped with this feature I'd be all over it.
@@saviordream I switched from Pixel to a OnePlus. I love the phone but the only thing I miss is Call Screening. It's so frustrating that there isn't an easy to find list. When you do a web search half the results are "ONLY PIXEL PHONES HAVE IT THAT'S WHY IT'S PIXEL CALL SCREEN!" which is wrong or "EVERY PHONE HAS IT IT'S JUST THE GOOGLE PHONE APP!" which is wrong.
call me devil's advocate but I actually liked when there was no screen on the outside except a small lcd that can show the called ID, I wish they would make this model again for us who want a simple flip phone
Nowerday’s there are barely any changes between updates. Why are the lack of updates a deterrent?
In this very specific case the razr+ has been missing an aod on the outer screen which is a really dumb oversight. But yeah, apart from that I don't get it either
Interesting hearing your comments on the durability of Razr 40 Ultra! Ordered mine thru EE in UK Nov23, By march 24 the screen protector was lifting just above the hinged area. EE sent it away to be repaired and eventually (due to no screens available) arrived back and the screen no longer had the notch! Now I am aware of tiny lines across the hinged area in the screen protector. Which begs the question how durable are foldable phones in general! I do love the compactness of it folded & produced some lovely photos on a recent trip to New York! Enjoy your thorough reviews so thanks from the UK👍
Canada here, had to send mine away for a lifting screen protector in May and it arrived back without the notch! And now is going back again for the same issue 😭 Spending a lot more time with my backup Pixel 5 than I'd hoped 😅
Hell yes. Thank you mr mobile.
Ive been eyeing this phone to replace my s23 ultra after realizing my healthy lifestyle has made me less attached to the latest and greatest so to speak.
Like i dont need to be on my phone 24/7 to breathe anymore like i did 4 years ago before i started lifting😊.
I got my eye on this.
The s22 cat flip
And the nokia 21 something rugged phone
Wow, a Winamp reference @ 4:17 ?
Man, I feel old now. 😂
Considering he said winamp... yes
@@pantloaded well that’s what I get for not paying enough attention.
I want it in orange, but with the bigger screen. Ohhh well...
That orange looks so exciting. Finally phones with sexy colors.
10:40 "I still hate this decision" _zooms into cat_
... which shows that the 2x telephoto does zero to improve the quality of shots like that.
@@TheMrMobileagreed. If you're going to use up a camera for telephoto, at least put something 4x or greater in there so it's USEFUL!
@@TheMrMobile imo the best part of a .5 lens is the absolutely goofy pictures i can take of my cats and friends. The fish-eye effect is so funny and i use that 10x more than i would be zooming into far-away shots
I own the 2022 Razor and love it. For me far better than my wife's z flip 4 (apart from camera) but it's not a bad one. Her phone has been sent back twice due to the screen cover splitting. Not had the issue on my razor. I'm looking at a bigger phone for my next upgrade as miss my duo but if I don't I think I'll go back with moto
I kinda wish Motorola would launch their phones with more storage or at least an sd card slot. Even 256gb of storage would start feeling a bit cramped for me...
I've already been considering these for one of my next phones. I've been using flagships from Google, Samsung, OnePlus, and back to the very much missed LG and HTC. Ahhh, the HTC One M8 still brings a smile to my face. I've just started "taking an inventory" of features I actually use and like the idea of a foldable that doesn't cost me a kidney to own. The Motorola Razrs seem to check all of my boxes.
how good was your HTC One M8 sir ?
@@sipenarekbecha7193, probably the best phone I've ever owned. Obviously the specs wouldn't meet today's standard, it's over a decade old now, but for the time, it was ahead of everything else. The phone was made with aircraft aluminum. Not only was it a great looking phone, but it was indestructible, even with a slim case.
@@mikeoleksa I think the speaker was great too (at least for its time then), how about the UI ? As far as I remembered, it has a unique theme/homescreen right ?
Nice addition of showing the older phones and the original Razr in the video. Great stuff. At 7:28 no other channel that I've seen on these phones has mentioned this. Thank you. I'm looking forward to trying out the 2024 Razr+ due to the updates they've made.
13:18 - the camcorder feature is also available on last years Razr phones. The thumb pad appears to be new however.
I just hope someone makes a CONTROLLER for it but not horizontal as usual, instead vertical.
So when closed you can play 4:3 old consoles on the outer screen.
flip it open and now can also emulate consoles like Nintendo DS.
That would be amazing :D
such a good idea! Motorola should hire you, id be throwing my money at them if emulation was a design feature instead of an after-market thing
10:40 dude your cat is straight up planning a dark and sinister plot
I absolutely love Moto's lock screen and I wish I could use that on my Samsung as that is the only thing I feel I am missing out on.
14:22 does the Phone have Qi2? I can't find anything about that online. But he just put it on a magsafe powerbank and it stuck
No Qi2 certification, but it does stick to that charger pretty well. If I had to guess, it's probably incidental attraction from the magnets that hold the flip closed.
@@TheMrMobile thanks for the Info! I really hope, that android Phones start using Qi2 soon, than i dont have to put those ugly magsafe stickers on the back of my phone anymore.
@@gamblex1806 You and me both!
The problem with these new smartphone (all brands included) are the fixed storage and no new storage option.😠
What happen when you move from the Razr 2022 to this one ? If it's almost full, you just don't want to start over.
A Micro SD slot will solve the problem 💯.
It should be legally mandatory now, to have one on every new smartphone💯.
Amazing! While I'm still hooked on Samsung for their great software and support, I'm looking forward to seeing where Motorola Razr goes from here
I love the idea of a flip smartphone like this but and I’m sure I’m in the minority but I would prefer it without the cover screen. To me the whole point would be to rock a touchscreen smartphone that folds nicely into my pocket but without the need to a protection or case. The outside plastic when closed would be enough for me to keep it safe like an old school razor, with no need for a case. With this large outer screen, I now have something else to cover and protect.
Motorola was the Highlight of my Teen Years having a Flip back in the Day was the cool thing before iPhones killed that love… But my Love of Motorola never died currently rocking the Edge 2024. Will I ever return to Moto Flip?… Never say Never I probably will just for old times sake! 😊 Great coverage and how have I never heard of you before. Subscribed!
It really whips the llama!! Quite nostalgic 😅
Good old times 🧙♂
What are your thoughts on the power button placement? I'm on the 2023 Razr+ and I've never had more "pocket dials" and other apps opening that I don't want. I came over from Pixel 5a so naturally, I've been unsurprisingly unimpressed with my Razr+'s camera and other hardware. BUT, that said, more than I care to count: my phone has fallen from my bike's top-tube bag on singletrack and even on paved rail-trails (my fault for not securing the bag) and the phone survived mostly unscathed. I don't have a case for it (didn't like any of the ones I tried) and the only scratch is on the outside screen and I can't recall how that happened. Now, on rides when I need a fast camera with excellent pictures, I bring my 5a along for the ride...which is why I got the RAZR+: for the smaller footprint...now, I'm bringing two phones.
Google need to look at these features and implement them into the pixels, my pixel is so bland and underwhelming.
I like such kind of phones. My current phone is LG Wing and next one is definitely going to Razr.
Thanks for the video bro, but there is Honor Magic V Flip that just release, maybe you can grab it too, thank you
Have requested a sample from Honor - but as it's China-only software for now, I'll likely wait to cover it until there's a European release.
@@TheMrMobile thanks a lot Mr. Mobile, we will wait for your review ❤
I've never commented on a review video before, from anyone, but damn, Mr. Fisher's review videos are always hands down the best produced, well thought out videos I've ever seen. I watch all the big TH-cam tech reviewers and Mr Mobile is absolutely the very best. Bravo dude!
It's been so long since you've uploaded video, Hope you always stay healthy mr mobile 💪💪
14:44 That complete full display on the cover screen is a bold step from Motorola but it is the right decision. The full display must be captivating (I suppose in personal experience) whenever you make a quick glance at it. The bigger display must be providing extra flexibility when navigating the screen. From my position the display is gorgeous each time I watch every review of the Motorola Razr 50. And it is very wise for Motorola to make all the necessary polishing and refinement of their flip phone to win the hearts of more customers. 😎💯👍🏾💪🏾
Michael Fiaher and foldables is never ending love story, only Michael gives best foldables review because he is the only one who loves them and use them in tech world.
Looking forward to the fold 6 review. I decided to upgrade from my fold3 finally (also use the flip5 for daily at work for the size) so I'm looking forward to your opinion on it.
Just got the razr 2024 for $200
Can you rotate the outer screen? Either through basic settings, or with a third party rotation control app?
4:48 Nevermind... Pretty sweet...
Definitely need the old man rant vid
lol
I have a 24 ultra but these moto razrs have been on my radar for awhile and I am digging the changes this year.
THE CAT! Looks like yall are having some fun!
They're both doing great (even sick Steampot)!
3:50 is the screen flicker on the cheaper model just the camera playing tricks on us, or does the more expensive model have a flicker-free screen? I understand it wouldn't be this bad in-person, but I'm personally quite sensitive to screen flicker.
Good old days of using winamp 🎵
Can't decide which color to buy for razr plus 2024?..is the hot pink same as viva magenta as last year?
This guy always makes me want to buy a new phone, ... and eat chocolate...not sure why.
I bought the Razr Plus 2024 and I love it!
"It really whips the llama." This took me back. I so loved Winamp. Great video!
The updates killl me. If they were faster with those i would just go and buy it like now😢
Nowerdays there are barely any changes between updates. Why are the lack of updates a deterrent?
@@tremarley9648 It's not so much just the OS updates as it shows how well a company is going to support their products. Moto has been horrible on that front and they are showing zero signs of fixing this. You spend that kind of cash on a phone, you need to know it's going to be supported. If it isn't, well, just buy a Chinese flip phone then, you'll get the same level of "support" from there as well.
Well they aren't even on sale yet, at least in the US
It might be because it was sold as a business phone, but my Moto think phone gets monthly updates.
@@jeffchandler3390 Monthly security updates are a pretty common thing amongst all phones
Crazy that companies still don't do propper updates in 2024. It's literally the reason why I switched to apple in the first place. The first three or so phones I owned a decade ago stopped receiving updates about a year after release and were barely useable after two. My iphone 6s is still sitting on a shelf somewhere and I know that when I boot it up it will still be somewhat usable.
So, Customer service is bad everywhere and I wasn't hallucinating it seems!
It's a mess, everywhere.
I am still not convinced by foldable phones but they do seem to be improving my main concerns is the fragile screens that all the reviewers leave out and battery life can be worse than a standard phone particularly in this flip format
Here's my hot take: Motorola should've added a third lens for telephoto for the plus model.
Agree. Add the chin again, and fill it with cameras!
Battery life is incredible for a flip phone plus I am quite impressed with the battery. A killer smartphone so within budget and Mediatek SoC.
Tele!!! I have 0 use for ultra wide on my phone I wish if they were going to do only 2 cameras it would be 35mm standard and 75-100mm tele.
I want this for ALL PHONES! people look horrible taken on less than 35mm! Everyone should follow Nubia and make 35mm the standard!
This might just be me, but if you're getting nitpicky on lenses in a smartphone, then why not just have a camera?
I've been an iPhone user for years. Coming from iPhone 12 Pro, I'm now daily driving the orange razr 2024 and am very impressed by both the phone and Android. I plan to use both unlocked phones but am making the razr my primary. The outside screen is great to use for many apps. Loving it so far. Will see how the hinge and crease hold up over the coming months. The crease is surprisingly small and hardly noticeable is normal usage.
Michael, I'm worried you're getting out of touch. *699* is not budget for the populace.
That's not budget compared to other candy bar phones, but that's definitely on the lower end of foldable phone prices
it's definitely budget when it comes to foldables
Budget comparatively. Cmon, keep up.
7:24 does the hinge work better than the previous ones I hope? the screen crease decay on the z flip style phones is really bad
the razr 5g 2020 still seems like the best implementation mine still hasn’t got a crease nearing 4 years
Mine broke after 1.5 months of light use. This phone sucks.
I did it. I pulled the trigger on the Razr+. Thankfully I've had you showing me all the flips since they came to fruition. That made the decision to jump in on foldables in this moment with this phone simple. Thank you for all the help and entertainment.
Can I just say I appreciate you actually using a good aspect ratio I. Your videos for how phones screens are these days! 16 x 9 just doesn’t cut it anymore
The screen rotation for the cover screen is one of the most important updates, some apps really can’t run or not optimised for landscape orientation.
In 14:21 you put it on a magnetic charger, does the razr has a magnetic wireless charging or was it some sort of case or tag?
This is between Review and Narration and I coudl seriously feel the narrator Fondling the devices as he goes on with work
Winamp...SO MANY YEARS since I thought of it, that used to be such a big part of my computing life back in the day. Here's to go the good Ole' days of Demonoid, Limewire, and Napster
Good times indeed 👍
What are your thoughts on the colors. I love the red from last year but I can’t tell if the hot pink is more red or more pink 😅
Question, did you have an issue with but dialing with the mini screen?
I stumbled on this video by accident, but I’m glad I did. I was on the ground floor with Motorola phones, and I do miss their industrial designs from that era. The RAZR+ appeals to me because of the straightforward no-nonsense feature set. Sometimes less is better. ✌️
Ive had every Z flip available and every single one of them has ended it's life due to wear and tear. My current Z flip 5 has a yellow line going half way across the crease due to a minor drop 8 months ago, as well as a deep scratch on the screen also along the crease. The camera lense is also cracked as is the cover screen.
As much as I love foldable phones I think im ready to switch back to normal ones. The cameras and battery life are the main problem, lagging behind competitors and the unique aspect ratio makes common apps like snapchat a pain to use. Durability is also a major issue with every phone developing some sort of issue along the crease after around half a year to a year of use.
The cover screen for me doesn't offer enough features as of right now to make the phone worth the sacrifices and I sometimes use it simply to make use of it. Give it 5 years and I believe these phones will be fantastic, right now though is too early.
I've seen this phone in person. It's beautiful, and the display is also. And this the base razr im speaking of. I just got the new galaxy fold 6 and as in love as i am with it, im considering the razr for my second (backup) line. Samsung and Motorola have typically been my go to Android devices.