So then what would be the point of a warranty? Or should companies not offer warranties since you can repair your own device? Not everyone is tech savvy to repair their own devices. I know people who in 2021 had to be taught how to delete and move an app. Let alone open up their own device.
@@andrewilliams6367 warranties are still good, but the OPTION to repair it yourself if you have the skills is also a great thing to have. Having FULL FREEDOM to add or improve the device YOU bought with YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY, and having the option for a warranty, would be great in a perfect world. But this ain't a perfect world. :v
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
Some are rechargeable with non user removable batteries. It's a scam. Same with electric vehicles. There is NO reason other than greed that the packs can't slide out like on industrial equipment, toy and model vehicles. The ONLY thing that will get their attention is the loss of money from people not buying their stupidity.
It's so hard to source original batteries for phones. Effectively it's planned obsolesence. We need law where manufacturers have to provide spares at reasonable price for 10 years or something like that. It's protecting consumers and the environment.
I've heard the EU are bringing in a law that forces smartphone/tablet manufacturers to use the same charging port to cut down on e-waste and to prevent people having to buy a new charger for each device they use. Not sure how Apple will deal with it as I'm assuming the EU will go with either micro-usb or USB-C.
@@MrHowardMoon It's USB-C and it passed. And Apple HAS to give a non proprietary option. As MagSafe is proprietary, and there is no wireless charging standard that everybody uses right now, Apple is FORCED to use USB-C ports on their new devices at around late 2023.
@is4c_ You're welcome. From 2027, manufacturers will all have to offer replaceable batteries, but unfortunately not if the batteries still have a remaining capacity of 83% after 500 charging cycles. This shouldn't be a problem for the manufacturers. So it probably won't have much of an impact, at least on smartphones.
@is4c_ You're welcome. From 2027, manufacturers will all have to offer replaceable batteries, but unfortunately not if the batteries still have a remaining capacity of 83% after 500 charging cycles. This shouldn't be a problem for the manufacturers. So it probably won't have much of an impact, at least on smartphones.
That Samsung battery you don’t want belongs to a Note7 N930F, so yeah, definitely avoid that one, thanks for the video Hugh, too many fall for these scams so it’s good to unearth their scrupulous practices :)
The right to repair is so important, States must take a stand to support legislation to allow people to fix products they own with legitimate OEM parts and thereby shutting down the fake parts sellers. This in not just electronics or batteries; It includes mechanical parts for appliances, cars, and farm equipment.
You do understand ( or maybe you don't... ) that the trend is already to the contrary. In Britain they've already tried ( and maybe have by now ) made it an offense to make modifications to a motorcycle. Have you ever heard of the state named California? It's their more-strict restrictions on virtually everything ( except children selling their bodies on the street ) which have inexorably begun to spread like a cancer throughout other states. Either through their influence with their market-share of sales on manufacturers eager to lower inventories who just say "heck with it---make everything we make CaCompliant and pass on the costs" or through their unwitting emissaries who go to other states to escape the Californian regulatory/taxation excesses but in their new lodgings immediately insist that the Californian plugged-nose pig occasionally found some acorns and that's why you had Texans sitting in their barkaloungers succumbing to hypothermia because those "green" wind-turbines which work perfectly well in the California climate don't function when the temperatures go so low that you observe a type of snow you've never seen B4 in your whole 3score&7. This whole you-can't-because[fill-in-the-blank] cancer has long-ago metastacized. I don't think it's legal for me to effect a whole host of home repairs I've been doing all my life in the heart of the midwest unless I hire a licensed contractor to do them. I'm the guy who has sat there and watched licensed contractors "fix" things and then, when they weren't fixed fixed it myself and had the major appliance work longer afterward than it did to it's first mean-time-to-failure. But legally, i can't do that now. And it's not because the local taxing authority gives a rat's ass if I suffocate on CO or get electrocuted because my non-GFCI-protected outlet is too close to a faucet. It's because they believe this to be a way of forcing upgrades to real property improvements and keeping their tax base up. And what better way to destroy the element of self-reliant can-do HR nature of our unique national culture, eh? To hell with "great". Make America AmeriCAN Again. But don't hold your breath waiting for that to start appearing in campaign literature or signs. Not unless you find yourself to look particularly "fetching" in your cyanosis-blue birthday suit.
Just wait until you are forced to buy electric cars and have to replace the batteries in them.........Remember Cobalt(battery material) is NOT a renewable resoruce.
It amazes me how these phone companies claim to go green and yet all they want is to increase their profits. Selling a new phone is all they want. The real reason behind making it harder to replace the battery yourself.
It’s not green to have people repair their phones. How do you make sure they will dispose of the parts correctly? No, only way is to remove all ports (Jack, lightning, etc) serialize parts so they don’t work outside their OG device, and then charge 75/80% of a new phone for any kind of repair. The world is save, thanks Apple!
@@Neonregenesis Aplle is such good of a seward to the environment that they conviniently forget to add a charger to your iPhone kit (knowing that many will buy unfit charger resulting in truncated battery lifespan, LOL).
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
Same, it makes me sick how many broken stuff I had, always tried contacting the brand and never had luck with any company yet, they just say the regular blah blah blah thank you and we sell no parts... In my opinion almost every product should have been like cars where everything or at least almost everything is made to sell as parts, however they still sadly have the problem of costing a damn lot which suck.
@@UnipornFrumm Never bought and probably never will😎. They are really some of the most overpriced piece of garbage out there that just having that eaten Apple logo makes them charge pretty high while at least on most of their laptops they have many design flaws that keep breaking and apple continue to launch them with a ton of problems and they don't give a dam because they keep buying it👏💰💸
@@rustyshackleford7200 it's not opinion it's everywhere... Apple is the company on the entire planet who charges far more for extra memory, they refuse to fix some devices and do not sell parts either and are against repairing. Their modern computers using intel and whatever known hardware would always end miles more expensive than the same specs from any brand without an eaten Apple logo and probably with their defective design fixed... They made so many defective designs and even blame the users... Then everyone pays a lot to them thinking they must at least pay well to workers that have all the proper conditions yet not many time ago apple workers in China wanted to commit mass suicide from the poor conditions and bad salary, apple "fixed it" and some time later a similar situation happened which mean they haven't fixed shit. Do I really need to buy a product with a eaten apple to know all of this? Ps: or is it that shitty Mac OS that is worth the extra BIG price difference? Because I don't want it not even 4 free, garbageware that look like it's made 4 kids and I hate their design, I hate the UI, I hate their icons...
What I miss about old phones, is when your phone died, just being able to take the battery out and put in a fresh one really fast. LIKE HOW IT SHOULD BE!!!!@
I still use my cheap old flip phone that I can easily swap out battery in seconds. I like this phone because it is NOT internet capable....I use an Android for internet. I do not store any identifiable personal info on it...never use it as a phone.
@@VashStarwind It certainly does matter. A phone with a removable back simply cannot have the water resistance that let’s say the iPhone 13 Pro max has. You need a strong water tight adhesive to get an IP68 rating for 6 meters up to 30 minutes. Besides, with all the software that apple implements into their phones, you can easily get a battery to last 3 years+ without noticing a significant decrease in the battery’s efficiency. $70 to change the battery at an apple store 3 years from purchasing an iPhone isn’t bad either. People usually upgrade their phones by then.
You can actually find genuine "new" batteries for older phones. "new" meaning never unpacked since manufacturing date years ago, and as result, completely discharged through self-discharge and dead as a doornail.
almost true. they dont make extras for sale so its out of a doa fone like from a carrier. most parts are stripped carrier returns that are icloud or google locked . otherwise somebody reverse engineers and makes the parts. takes about 6months to get a good working aftermarket part. in some cases the aftermarket part is better because its newer tech and not ripped out of a dead fone
@@bermyvlogger Apple makes extra batteries for sale to Authorized Repair Centers and Authorized Service Providers. How these would make it into the hands of other people I'm not sure but I've personally swapped out an iPhone 7 battery for one with a manufacturer date of 2020
This video just confirms that we have to take a stance to the huge corporations, and claim our Right to repair. Not being able to buy a genuine replacement battery is (almost) criminal. It's one step up from the 3000 euro per liter price for printer ink.
I bought a "high capacity" battery for my iPhone 6s in China many years ago. It didn't make any outrageous claims, I think it was just 10% more than the original. It worked like a treat, and easily got me through a full day in Beijing's harsh winters, where the original battery gave up after a few minutes. So, I guess it is all down to luck.
Finding the right company that is not scamming is key. I use genuine FlyCDI batteries here in the Philippines and my experience has been great. These batteries are actually pretty close to what they rate them for, which is higher than OEM apple sold batteries. ❤
Bad spelling in labels usually occurs when the printer is asked to do stuff that’s outside their duties-skills (writing, translating, designing, etc). Printers comply in order to get the job and those extras are not charged.
As long as “anti-right to repair” is being pushed by manufacturers, people have little to no incentive to pay xx amount for a genuine battery, when they can pay x amount online, and get one… But on the other hand, if/when manufacturers start selling genuine parts, nothing stops them from charging exorbitant amounts to discourage people from repairing their devices… just so they buy new devices.
There only one issue I have yet to have a phone battery wear out before u was thinking of upgrading because phone was running slow and software updates weren't available any more
I took my problematic iphone to an Apple centre and the smart salesman took it out the back and said it was unrepairable and proceeded to show me the latest model to purchase. I did not believe him. I took my phone to an Indian shop on the high street (UK) and the fellow put a new battery in for £20 and voila! good as new. A year later, all still good.
A few years back I purchased a replacement "genuine" battery for my Nexus 5 and the capacity was significantly worse than the original worn out battery lol, I wish it was easy to get a quality battery for an affordable price.
This is even more sad considering they actually did sell original ones. At least the one I got was. Behaved just like new on day one and degraded just as quickly as the one the phone shipped with, going from one charge every two days to 30% at the end of the day in about 30 months.
Order from Taiwan or Hong Kong and your chances are much better to recive what you paid for, maybe Ameica will get off their DUFF and start manufaturing again, OH I forgot their are few if any left in our country that have the required knowledge to make anything of old country standards when we were very near the number one in the World. Thank GOD Japan is still around to supply us with first class quality and South Korea seems to make decent products as well.
Original battery worked for 5 years in my iPhone 5s, then each new one worked about a year. One worked for several months before making phone scorching hot when discharged. I’d say it is impossible to find a good one, so now I’m going to replace my devices as soon as battery degrades😾
Even manufacturer replacements can be sometimes scam. I got my iPhone X battery replaced in an Apple Store. Previous battery capacity was 82% And current charge status was 11% New battery capacity was 100% (healthy) Current charge was 11% There’s 1 chance out of 100 the charge status would be the same on different batteries. Using the new battery felt exactly like the last one, and it reached 80% capacity again within months. While I don’t have any proof they simply reset the battery controller chip, I have strong suspicion. I didn’t note the battery serial number but I should have.
The EU wants all phones to be charged with a USB-C cable. I'd rather see the return of the removable battery so you can get it replaced easier l, faster and cheaper.
@@feuerherz007 most right to repair supporters say you can have an internal battery, but at least sell the genuine battery or allow suppliers to sell them
I dont have a problem with glued backs,its not that hard to remove if you are carefull,but i m for right to repair,we should be able to buy the battery and glue template from the manufacturer and other conponents,or at least have them avalable for repair shops
You are absolutely right phone companies thought why sell battery when they can sell a whole new phone, by adapting battery internal technology and making repairing more complex and hard day by day. Need to work more hard on right to repair movement.
its harder to replace only because of water proofing, not to intentionally make you struggle. they probably sold more phones due to water damage than battery issues.
Great video! I think this is an important topic for people to understand, regardless of how tech-savvy you are. Working in the repair industry, I urge people to use legitimate sources when it comes to getting a repair done, regardless if they do it themselves or not. For example, I had a gentleman come into our store today with a ZTE phone. His charging port went bad, so he went to some "repair shop" to get it looked at (he didn't know/disclose the shop). They tore down the device, desoldered the port, then said they couldn't get the parts and had this gentleman a box with his phone torn down. I'm disappointed that someone would put this guy in a position like this. Especially since he's older. I said to him that he should come to us in the future for any needs as we would never do that to a customer, regardless if we were able to resolve their situation. So again, I urge you. Do your research and only work with reputable sources. Doesn't matter if you're doing the repair yourself or outsourcing it to a manufacturer or an authorized repair partner.
Was it an Axon 7 by any chance? I had the same failure and put in an aftermarket board, that unfortunately did not have circuitry it needed to do fast charging. I knew that going in, but it still sucked being back on 500mA charge rates.
Totally on board with Right to Repair!! So glad you talked about that. So many reasons to have strong right to repair laws - including climate change and reasonable costs for the consumer.
The fact that whichever company (likely based in China) making those unbranded gold batteries can just fake the wear levels like how similar scammers in the automotive industry would use custom devices to fake odometer readouts, really throws me off. I feel as though those kinds of companies make up most of what gives the Right to Repair movement a bad reputation, because they likely put fake labels on the batteries so they can make money without a care in the world. (This part invalidated due to the 5th reply to this comment) Faking the battery readouts could lead to the batteries exploding since the management chip wouldn't know that the battery cell already has tons of wear on it!
Sadly it also means that it gives Apple/Samsung etc the reason to lock their hardware so things can't easily be replaced without issues. They can now justify it's the only way to know you're getting genuine safe spare parts...only from them of course.
@@Dedubya- To be fair you can also argue that the only reason why they are buying batteries from third party companies is because they can't buy it from the companies themselves.
The idea of an internal battery opened the doors for scammers... The ones that put a non-removable glass cover on back of your phone and don't let you replace the battery at all.
@@venturoes1912 dude that's fucking stupid no company designed a phone to be opened through the screen even now in the time of phones being a bitch to open you still do it from the back
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle Try about any Samsung the past few years, pry the screen off without breaking it then remove the frame screws holding frame to the back. I recommend removing the motherboard from the frame one the back is removed then you can wrestle with the adhesive holding the battery to the frame. Might want to test the capacity of your replacement battery, it might be weaker than the used original.
Love your vids. So interesting and honest. You cover topics that are diverse. With your help I hope to finally have the confidence to replace the old, almost dead, battery on my old Galaxy S8 for my 10 year old grandson andv6 year old granddaughter to play on. I really could not afford to get it done at a shop. I think I will enjoy having a go. Thank you.
Great job on the right to repair push. I hope the “average” person gets behind this and it’s no longer just the people that do the repairs that understand how important this truly is 😊
Thank you very much for this excellent & honest review of phone batteries. This shows the truth about the world having so much corruption in business & political dealings. Like you said, it's best to get the batteries replaced from the manufacturers & not elsewhere just because you can save a few bucks!
When a replacement battery is £79 and the phone only cost £100. Sometimes it’s best to take your chances, do your research and get a battery from a reputable company, just not the manufacturer.
This works for Apple phones because of the HIGH replacement cost for a new phone. For those of US with lesser means who buy $200 Android phones, professional service doesn't make economic sense! So, we are stuck with buying "a pig in the poke" batteries!
Tip for Sony Ericsson batteries: they *always* have the full datecode on show. For example at 5:52 it says 17W07 on the fake and 10W05 on the real label, denoting 2017 week 7 and 2010 week 5 respectively. When Sony and Ericsson split, Sony kept the labeling scheme for their batteries mostly similar, including the yyWww datecode (at least to the point where they started gluing batteries in as well)
Knaeckebrotsaege L00K closely at the battery and if you were paying attention, you would see that it is SONY and not Sony. Typically zombies have eyes bit cannot see --Ears and cannot hear. So learn to pay attention to detail. These names are written the way they are for a reason that is beyond your present ability to comprehend.
I'll be honest, I probably fell for one of these, I replaced my phone battery a year or two ago, and while it was certainly better than the well used original, it wasn't even close to what it was to begin with. I had just assumed OS updates were causing increased use on the phone, and that is why it still wouldn't get through a full day anymore. And I don't have the testing equipment you do, so I can't be certain either. But this seems to most likely (especially since I got the exact same bag of part to open the phone with it).
For my experience, I had my iphone 7 battery replaced by an Apple store last march. I was expecting to go back to full day and a half battery life i was able to get out of the phone back in 2017 when new. But evidently, 4 major OS updates took their toll on the processor power consumption. Despite the new battery, I cannot get through an entire day anymore. And I'm 100% sure that the battery is genuine.
@@TheGuruStud Apple has been prosecuted and found guilty for purposefully slowing down older phones (aka sabotage) via updates in the past, so it's not outside their MO.
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
6:55 that's from a Samsung Galaxy Note 7, aka the exploding phone! the problem was that the battery was too large for the frame, hence the explosions. Reducing the capacity to 3200mAh (as seen in the Note FE) made them less explosive.
Yes of course "less". Every Lithium Batterie is a potential bomb. Any damage, even tiny ones to the internal separator will cause a chain reaction. Never an explosion but like magnesium or fireworks
I almost fell for one of these scams last week! Luckily, I did some research beforehand and found a reputable repair shop. Your video is much needed - thanks for helping expose these dishonest practices.
Great video review - never even thought about looking under the sticker, but I also got hit by a scam battery once. Purchased it for an old Samsung (with a removable battery), needless to say, the battery was useless - was worse than the many years old original battery (which itelf had lost all abilities to hold a decent charge). Also I agree, we need to do something about Right To Repair, there are certain companies (one in particular) that tries to hinder 3rd party repair.
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
That's great advice for life in general, Don't believe your wishes - if it costs a third of the price then it's probably gonna die in a third of the time. And there are no such thing as amazing sale deals, only old stock nobody wanted ;)
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
This is a much much needed video to spread awareness, not only these Chinese manufacturers lie about the capacity and wrap old batteries in new gold stickers they are also prone to swelling and combust due to old age, I had this happen with a Samsung Note 5 replacement (gold) battery. I am glad the right to repair movement is going to take off soon.
The misspelling on the batteries and weird margins kind of reminded me of Micheal MJD's Microsoft Office 2010 *Genuine Saftware/Sofuare* saga. (srsly the Saftware was my favorite part of it)
I repaired the IPhone XR from my buddy (he drove over there in error), I bought the battery and the display from iFixit and the rear frame from eBay, the iFixit products fit great but the eBay ones weren't that good. Repairing an iPhone is absolute pain and takes forever (3.5 hours). I agree with you that it is better to buy branded spare parts, because they are usually of better quality. I love your videos and what you do 👍
Should've bought a frame + battery + small parts combo It's super easy and fast All you really end up having to move is face id, the screen and the board
As a lifetime career service tech in several industries, it has been my experience that any replacement part that states, "professional quality" or "genuine part" ... ISN'T ! You might save some cash buying a knockoff part but will inevitably be disappointed. As the saying goes ... The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
True, but the multinationals, phone or other, won't allow you as a consumer to buy original parts in general. In the watch industry, for example, ( yes you Seiko-Epson) it is just as bad. And the Chinese, they are masters of fake products!
When I buy replacement parts, I look for "factory OEM" on the package. NOT, "direct replacement" or "direct fit"! You are going to pay more for the "OEM" part, but believe me, in the long run IT IS WORTH IT!!!!
Honestly, I don’t think it should be named ‘Right To Repair’ but ‘Right To Replace’ when it comes to batteries, forcing manufacturers to design products that allow the consumer to easily replace batteries in mobile devices. The amount E-Waste has exploded due to the whole “Just replace it” mentality now. Great video and 1000% true.
It seems odd that CHEAP TV remotes have user replaceable batteries, with remotes costing $5. While cell phones costing HUNDREDS of dollars feature "sealed" batteries, in some cases, glued back covers! What is wrong with this picture?
When I was young most TVs and radios used vacuum tubes and most tubes were one of a half dozen common types. The local drug store had a tube testing machine with a stock of the most common tubes. Anybody could take all of the tubes from their radio or TV down to the store and test them. The testing machine had a meter with a needle that pointed to a green, yellow, or red area depending on the tube's condition. Tubes that tested as red were bad, yellow were weak, and green were good. After replacing the bad tubes the radio or TV would usually work for a few more years. Equipment that operates for decades is probably better for the environment thant ones that are easily recycled.
Those "tube testers" could only be trusted if the meter indicated "BAD" . Just because you got a "GOOD" reading did not mean the tube was good. The only real way to test a "GOOD" tube was by substituting a KNOWN good tube!
@@TheOzthewiz Thanks for responding to my post. Are you sharing what you have experienced or what you have read? In my case it was actual experience repairing radios, TVs, and one HP VTVM. In many cases the heater would go open and the tube would not glow when it was in circuit and was usually bad. If the tube was glowing it could still be bad and the tube tester gave some more information. In my experience in about 95% of the cases replacing a tube that tested bad caused the device to return to operation. In less than 1 case in 20 all tubes would test good but the device still wouldn't work properly. In those cases the quick tube test was just the beginning of the adventure.
If you know Korean or Japanese it's much easier to determine whether it's fake or not; since most of these counterfeit goods manufacturer does not understand both languages, phrases printed on the label often misspelled, or on very bad quality. e.g. Writing ソ as ン, ツ as シ in the Japanese context, and ㅊ as ㅎ, ㅏ/ㅓ as ㅣin Korean…
Another one would be using the wrong kanji in the case of japanese, specifically using a simplified version used in chinese but not japanese or vice versa. Although katakana and hangul should be easier.
Very sound presentation there are plenty who will do that. When I worked at Qld Main roads as a P3 engineer working on product approvals; I noticed the amount of un-tested and non-approved product creeping into the Qld Main-roads network. I reported my suspicion to management then to the CMC and they referred it back to TMR for investigation; Snow job investigation ! the Evidence I'd collected wasn't looked at as they had some other agenda? I got added to Premier Campbell Newman's 22,000 public service cull & haven't worked since.
Sony has had several major recalls because of flawed battery engineering and failed Quality Control and probably no field testing? What is it about corporations, are they to cheap to set up Quality Control or did they figure the consumers would find the problems with their failed products and someone elses expense? Next, explosions like commercial aircraft and Laptops???
To clarify the Audience, that'd be the OVERSTUFFED one (it almost didn't fit the cavity it supposed to go inside) they sold originally. There is a narrower (less capacity) one offered in the Fan Edition of the Note 7 sold in some countries after the debacle to get rid of the remaining components.
Totally agree, there are plenty of scammers out there and honesty is not something they’re interested in but in making money out of people. When I need a replacement battery, I’d always go to the product retailer and pay more but I’ll know that it’ll be genuine and will have a warranty.
Apple products have "retailers", while CHEAP Motorola phones have NO stores to go to for parts and service at CHEAP rates! The "service" for my Motorola G phone consists of ME finding a "round" file and placing said phone into that file! LOL
Hi Hugh, just wanted to thank you for this video, after watching it I managed to find an (almost) local manufacturer who puts their brand on the batteries. Immediately I felt more confidence in buying from them. (And the batteries are actually good - what a surprise) Unfortunately I'm still struggling to find a reputable seller for Android batteries, but there's a website that specialises in batteries so I'm hoping I'll finally get a good replacement for my poor dying Nokia 8.1. You're really helping my side hustle man, I will be forever grateful, I'm lovin' this hobby
Excellent video and accurate! I've purchased many batteries from many companies including Nuu Power 99 ( misspelled purposely) to replace the battery myself. Not one of those batteries came close to the power rating claimed. Sending the device to the company for a genuine replacement is not only expensive but you're without your device for weeks. Having the replacement done at some shop is worse. In my case the replacement battery was inferior as power was measured by an installed app. The phone's case started to separate indicating that insufficient glue was used. You are pretty much forced to replace the unit in order to get a proper battery one that doesn't start separating and coming apart.
This was a very well done video and I enjoyed it. However I just want to point out that your BN930 battery looks like a second generation Note 7 Battery, not the first generation prone to fire. Most cell phones nowadays have a rectangular motherboard or L-shaped motherboard with a rectangular battery aligned right up against the edge of the board. The Note 7 had no faults in its board design other than its shape, which indirectly caused the battery issue. The Note 7 board is nearly an L-shape, but with a "cut corner". As a result of having two 45% angles in close proximity rather than a true 90 degree corner, the battery could not be shaped as a true rectangle and still fit in place without some wasted space. Two battery manufacturers were selected by Samsung to create matching pentagonal batteries, which looked like a standard rectangle with one cut corner. Neither manufacturer, nor Samsung, tested these flawed pentagonal battery designs thoroughly enough and the phone was rushed to market. Batteries from either source had the same defect which led to thermal runaway failures. After Samsung recalled millions of Note 7 phones, they solved the issue permanently by simply building a shorter rectangular battery. It was slightly lower capacity, but allowed them to safely refurbish every Note 7. The 100% safe, lower capacity phones were then sold as the Note Fan Edition. So if you see a rectangular N930 battery, that is technically a Note Fan Edition cell and not a Note 7 cell.
I was literally a couple hours away from ordering a high capacity battery for my friend's Iphone, you literally couldn't have timed this any better 😂 This makes me question the legitimacy of the 3rd party battery in my 6s plus even though its been running for nearly 3 years no problem. In that case can anyone recommend brands for legit higher capacity replacement batteries for a 6s plus?
But people would rather seperate power bank and phone instead of having a power bank's weight permamently attached to your phone Until graphene battery are in mass production
@@古明地恋-s9c nope, I'd rather have a bulkier phone that lasts for a few days on one charge. Have you ever used your phone attached to a powerbank on the go? Made a call holding both phone and powerbank to your ear? It's so freaking inconvenient! I hate powerbanks, I don't want to need those damn things in my daily life!
This is good video. The issue thou is that you cannot find batteries anymore anywhere. Manufacturers themself are probably limiting the production and genuine 3rd party manufacturers don't bother to cover enough models. Its horrible.
Anyone else remember the days when the battery was the entire back of the phone? You could buy a second battery with a charger that just charged the battery (like 18v battery tools do now) and you just rotated the batteries, one on the phone and one on the charger. Then we got to the golden age of phones where the battery tech had exceeded the capability of the phones, so one charge lasted you a whole week. Those were the days. These days smartphones chew so much power some of them are lucky to last the day without needing a charge.
A Motorola TAC-250 was one of them. I still have that phone , with a dead battery (NiMH. non-exploding). Analog phones are 100% unusable (I think), but I keep it for nostalgia reasons!
I'll never forget how the look on my Grandma's face made me bust out laughing after she asked what my wife's recharging brick was and I explained to her that wife's iPhone battery was glued in (she's seen me change the battery in my phone a bunch of times) and the look on her face clearly communicated what she was thinking, which was "well, who's the idiot who designed that?"
@@greebj by screwing over its customers and nickel-and-diming them to fucking death. You can thank Android that you can now just make a short sound clip your ringtone without having to use your Mac to do it we've been doing that forever while iPhone bozos have been paying a dollar for each little download ridiculous
I agree with one commenter. This could've been avoided if the manufacturers sold official replacement batteries. This is really horrible. That's why I try to preserve my phone's battery life as long as possible. I used a Chargie and I also do some battery hacks, like using Dark Mode (I'll do this until forever!!!).
I had my iPhone X battery replaced by Apple a couple of weeks ago (due to swelling and it was forcing open the screen). Cost £69 but at least I know it was a genuine Apple battery, done properly and re-sealed for water resistance. They also replaced the speaker free of charge as that is their standard procedure when replacing an iPhone X battery; I doubt anyone else would bother with that.
I keep trying to explain this to people it’s only $80 to replace a battery versus cheaping out and trusting a third party for a few dollars less or spending $800-1000 on an entirely new phone. $80 for a battery replacement on a nearly $1000 phone is a small price to pay imo.
@Daruki Neo I’m not bothered by it. I just try to assist people with saving money. It’s called advice but I’ve realized people in this day of age don’t receive advice well and write it off as if I’m “bothered” by their decisions.
The biggest scammers are the phone manufacturers like Apple and Samsung, who make the non-removable batteries a norm. Apple as the cherry on top, even encoded the batteries with serial numbers so that you can't even switch it from another iPhone of same model. This is because one of the main reasons people force to buy a new iPhone in one or two years is because the battery gets degraded. If they kept the battery removable, then their sales would have gone down to be dramatically low. So in conclusion, I don't think the serious scams are these cheap battery sellers who are trying to make a few bucks. The real scammers are the Apple or other giants, who intentionally designed their products in such a way that will be unusable after a certain time.
I see so many of these bootleg batteries come up at work. Always when "I just had it replaced at this place in the mall a couple months ago and now it won't stay on longer than a few minutes", and they're always swollen, and in some cases, starting to vent.
Never had a problem with getting decent replacements for less popular models of phones. I usually got exactly what I ordered with my HTC phones, even my Pixel replacement was legit. Samsung, Sony and Apple on the other hand are a minefield.
I never go for "genuine", and given physical size related to capacity directly (on good made battery which phone providers do use), theres almost not a chance anyone could squeeze more power into that size o a battery so....
This is probably the biggest issue with long term repairability of devices: Each device has it's own battery type, and only "a few" are made by the manufacturer for 1-2 years. After that period, no new batteries of this type are made and you can only find counterfeits or scam "refurbished" batteries. Until there is a law that ALL lithium ion batteries must be standardized (like how disposable alkaline batteries are standardized), we are doomed. Imagine being able to go to your local mini market and picking up a "standard" lithium-ion type LI-123 4000mAh battery for your 15 year old phone, because it fits ALL phones made in the last 15 years.
In ideal world: YES, but not in this world. Look how much Tax Apple or Amazon pays...At least they could pay the tax in the country they sell the products in and not skip on paying it. This is missing money in the pool, that, everybody who pays taxes, will need to top up.
Somebody just relaxed in regulation authorities. I live long enough to remember how they were standards for all types of batteries. Lithium ion batteries somehow became an exception from those regulations. We were betrayed by NIST, FCC, CFPB, ISO, Мостест, Росстандарт and others.
While staying in Shenzhen, China as an exchange students I used to go to the infamous Huaqianlu street. You would see hundreds of grandma's taking apart old phones and changing the stickers on batteries. They even had fake phones, my first phone was actually a fake S3. This was in 2013 mind you.
Great video. I too have experienced the same thing with replacement laptop and dyson batteries. There was a seller on ebay selling replacement "high capacity" batteries for dyson vacuum cleaners claiming 3500 mah capacity. Once I took it apart, I found it was just 1500 mah. Reported that to ebay and they did nothing about it. In short, I believe most replacement batteries sold that come from china are bogus in some way. If sellers such as Amazon and eBay acted on this information, then a lot of these battery scams would disappear.
I actually got an original Apple battery for my iPhone 6, with impressive packaging, with the Foxconn label, serial number, build date and all... I do think it was a battery from Foxconn, given to an Apple Service store but then sold off to someone on Amazon on the side. It works perfectly with the battery health and all showing up.
Not only that, but they are required by federal law to ship batteries with the warning labels, because they can start a fire, they have started fires, and people have died because of mislabeled or unlabeled batteries that were shipped without those warnings. There's a huge fine for that as well I believe, around $250,000 plus jail time.
I have an S7 edge and bought a replacement battery that only lasted half as long as an S7 battery should. It then ballooned up and stopped working after a month
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
Another thing i hate is manufacturers using a strong adhesive to stick the battery to the frame. The pull tabs are built to last only for one or two years. It's really dangerous to remove the battery as it can sometimes puncture the battery or damage the phones frame or display due to the pressure. I spent a good 5 mins trying to carefully remove the battery from my phone. I really miss the good old days when phones were easy to open and repair
Apple removed the plastic on its boxes but not fix the anti right to repair problem? Apple, Stop trying to be Eco friendly company when you are anti right to repair with your stupid bs
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!!
It's not just phone batteries, but any kind of battery. USB power banks are a massive source of fake batteries. I bought a pack that was advertised at nearly 40,000 mAh. I knew when I bought it that was a lie as I have real 40,000mAh packs that are over twice the weight. Sure enough after testing it was only around 17,000mAh. Still a deal for what I paid as 20,000mAh packs were selling for around the price I paid. It's been nearly 4 years and the pack is still going strong.
My experience in replacing multiple phone and tablet batteries has been the opposite - most of the cheap replacement batteries I've bought online have been as good or better as the original manufacturer ones. I think part of the reason for this is that the manufacturers have a profit motive to place cheap, poor batteries in phones (lower manufacturing costs and encouraging replacement in about a year). To be fair, I think consumers have an unrealistic expectation of how long these batteries can last, especially at optimal performance. If you want to keep your phone or tablet going and your a heavy user, you really should replace the batteries every 1-2 years.
I would love to know where you purchase these "good" batteries ! I have purchased five batteries online for my older 4rth. Gen. Ipod color type. All failed after only three Months sitting in the Ipod. Even with bi weekly charges.
I'm for the right to repair. Let the movement grow and gain traction. I would say governments have been a disappointment in this regard because this should be a no-brainer elementary right for people and good for the environment
My iPhone 4S battery died just outside of the warranty, so I bought a battery off of Amazon. It required the smallest Phillips size in existence and I've had less trouble replacing motherboards. Several months later, the battery exploded in my car, igniting the interior and nearly catching my house on fire. The car was a total loss and I had to take the loss. That was my last iPhone.
Great video, more people need to be aware of these kinds of scams i see these crap batteries everywhere. They can cause some serious damage to your device or even you.
@@12voltvids nah. Replaceable batteries aren't missing me that much. Besides that, the key secret to battery longevity is to use not one but more than one phone. I didn't know that until I found out that I didn't need to charge my galaxy j7 every day. I don't use flagship so, I prefer to use more than 1 budget phone. After 5 years of moderate use, I found out that my galaxy j7 battery which is a typical 3000 mah battery hasn't depleted and I still could get 2 days of use like when it was new. Batteries do deplete in one way or another but I found out how to use a phone much more longer without battery replacement, same thing for my older Redmi note 3, no battery depletion either. But sign of times, I replaced them by a Samsung galaxy a12, a redmi 9 prime, a Nokia G10 and a OPPO a53, which comes respectively with batteries of 5000 mah capacity. These devices are cheap and pack some decent ram and USB c, so why not. These phones I have right now could hold a full week and there's juice still left. So more phones, less battery cycles
I've experienced this with recent laptop battery replacement purchases. Does not have the capacity it should have, and drops in percentage suddenly. The sellers knows this so when the replacement was also shit, they gave a refund straight away.
@@blackcountryme you can cook food? I also have a laptop that I use gaming (low end laptop with i7 6600u with integrated graphics, ddr4 default spped 2x4gb) I'll just play something very hard to run games with intel CPU boost feature (basically overclocking but on locked and it's selected amount and can't be changed)
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!!
2:52 Jeez, how many spelling mistakes on that battery, considering they're supposed to be warnings ?! 'Rocycle' ~ 'risk of filre or burne' ~ 'Do not crunh' ~ 'tomperatures' 🙄🤣🤣
Just buy super expensive ones,;go sell your house to get a branded phone, so the CEO han grow and reach that wealth level he wants to buy another island, a golden lamborghini, 7 bigger mansions and such. Everything works!
My iPhone 13's are still not here yet...
Soon, I promise. Next video will be out before next Sunday.
watching on my 13pro
Ok
Take your time its okey ☺️
Great
hopefully it will be far easier to repair but knowing apple, i doubt it will.
And all of these scams could be prevented, if manufactures sold replacement parts directly and made their products serviceble
They do. You can change iPhone battery without any problems. But people wants $10 replacements.
So then what would be the point of a warranty? Or should companies not offer warranties since you can repair your own device? Not everyone is tech savvy to repair their own devices. I know people who in 2021 had to be taught how to delete and move an app. Let alone open up their own device.
@@andrewilliams6367 warranties are still good, but the OPTION to repair it yourself if you have the skills is also a great thing to have. Having FULL FREEDOM to add or improve the device YOU bought with YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY, and having the option for a warranty, would be great in a perfect world.
But this ain't a perfect world. :v
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
@@nnnnnn3647 no, apple won't sell you the battery
Imagine not being allowed to change the battery's in your remote control . Vote for RIGHT TO REPAIR!
An apple tv, probably
Some are rechargeable with non user removable batteries. It's a scam. Same with electric vehicles. There is NO reason other than greed that the packs can't slide out like on industrial equipment, toy and model vehicles. The ONLY thing that will get their attention is the loss of money from people not buying their stupidity.
Or maybe, just maybe, vast majority of people simply don’t care.
You guys are vegans of tech.
@@tophan5146 Maybe some of us aren't rich and wasteful.
@@tophan5146 Maybe they should care.
It's so hard to source original batteries for phones. Effectively it's planned obsolesence. We need law where manufacturers have to provide spares at reasonable price for 10 years or something like that. It's protecting consumers and the environment.
I've heard the EU are bringing in a law that forces smartphone/tablet manufacturers to use the same charging port to cut down on e-waste and to prevent people having to buy a new charger for each device they use. Not sure how Apple will deal with it as I'm assuming the EU will go with either micro-usb or USB-C.
What do you imagine happens when a smart TV updates its software?
@@MrHowardMoon It's USB-C and it passed. And Apple HAS to give a non proprietary option. As MagSafe is proprietary, and there is no wireless charging standard that everybody uses right now, Apple is FORCED to use USB-C ports on their new devices at around late 2023.
This is like EXCACTLY what the EU has decided in March this year. At least 10 years availability to repair and repair parts from day of release.
yeah. a law will fix it! lmao.
European Union has now imposed that if manufacturers want to sell here they have to make easy for customers to change batteries and retrieve old ones.
So how’s that working out? Anything yet? Lol
Manufacturers have time till 2027. And there are some exceptions too. So it's not that great.
@is4c_ You're welcome. From 2027, manufacturers will all have to offer replaceable batteries, but unfortunately not if the batteries still have a remaining capacity of 83% after 500 charging cycles. This shouldn't be a problem for the manufacturers. So it probably won't have much of an impact, at least on smartphones.
@is4c_ You're welcome. From 2027, manufacturers will all have to offer replaceable batteries, but unfortunately not if the batteries still have a remaining capacity of 83% after 500 charging cycles. This shouldn't be a problem for the manufacturers. So it probably won't have much of an impact, at least on smartphones.
Great! Now in the US, we'll have to wait until 2037 before the worthless lawmakers push this here. 🤦
Gold coloured batteries last 90% longer, that's just science.
It also works way better if every word on the battery is misspelled.
What about batteries with RGB
That's how it works in fallout 4! Better paint job, means better stats!
Gold ones are the best
🤣
Red cars go faster and gold batteries last longer
That Samsung battery you don’t want belongs to a Note7 N930F, so yeah, definitely avoid that one, thanks for the video Hugh, too many fall for these scams so it’s good to unearth their scrupulous practices :)
Is that the exploding version?
@@XxUltimateGodzXx Yeah sure is.
Yahtzee!
@@ryansheen523 phone go boom lol
I want a Note 7 for my collection, that would be so funny to show off even without a battery installed
The right to repair is so important, States must take a stand to support legislation to allow people to fix products they own with legitimate OEM parts and thereby shutting down the fake parts sellers. This in not just electronics or batteries; It includes mechanical parts for appliances, cars, and farm equipment.
You do understand ( or maybe you don't... ) that the trend is already to the contrary. In Britain they've already tried ( and maybe have by now ) made it an offense to make modifications to a motorcycle. Have you ever heard of the state named California? It's their more-strict restrictions on virtually everything ( except children selling their bodies on the street ) which have inexorably begun to spread like a cancer throughout other states. Either through their influence with their market-share of sales on manufacturers eager to lower inventories who just say "heck with it---make everything we make CaCompliant and pass on the costs" or through their unwitting emissaries who go to other states to escape the Californian regulatory/taxation excesses but in their new lodgings immediately insist that the Californian plugged-nose pig occasionally found some acorns and that's why you had Texans sitting in their barkaloungers succumbing to hypothermia because those "green" wind-turbines which work perfectly well in the California climate don't function when the temperatures go so low that you observe a type of snow you've never seen B4 in your whole 3score&7.
This whole you-can't-because[fill-in-the-blank] cancer has long-ago metastacized. I don't think it's legal for me to effect a whole host of home repairs I've been doing all my life in the heart of the midwest unless I hire a licensed contractor to do them. I'm the guy who has sat there and watched licensed contractors "fix" things and then, when they weren't fixed fixed it myself and had the major appliance work longer afterward than it did to it's first mean-time-to-failure. But legally, i can't do that now.
And it's not because the local taxing authority gives a rat's ass if I suffocate on CO or get electrocuted because my non-GFCI-protected outlet is too close to a faucet. It's because they believe this to be a way of forcing upgrades to real property improvements and keeping their tax base up.
And what better way to destroy the element of self-reliant can-do HR nature of our unique national culture, eh?
To hell with "great". Make America AmeriCAN Again. But don't hold your breath waiting for that to start appearing in campaign literature or signs. Not unless you find yourself to look particularly "fetching" in your cyanosis-blue birthday suit.
@@diogeneslamplit6573 As long as these companies continue to rake in billions a year and the gov't backs their shady practices....nothing will change.
Just wait until you are forced to buy electric cars and have to replace the batteries in them.........Remember Cobalt(battery material) is NOT a renewable resoruce.
@@diogeneslamplit6573 you don't have to press the spacebar multiple times...
And let's applaud Louis Rossmann the man behind the Right to Repair movement. ;)
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It amazes me how these phone companies claim to go green and yet all they want is to increase their profits. Selling a new phone is all they want. The real reason behind making it harder to replace the battery yourself.
And on a perfectly good phone, what a waste !!!
The green agenda is there to make your life worse, not better.
Apple is a fraud. But apparently people just love being defrauded, so what are ya gonna do?
It’s because they don’t want to be green but they want to appear green…
It’s the same for everyone claiming that, it’s a grift.
It is stunning how simple battery swap nowadays could qualify as "repair" and should have to do something with "Right to Repair" initiative.
It’s not green to have people repair their phones. How do you make sure they will dispose of the parts correctly? No, only way is to remove all ports (Jack, lightning, etc) serialize parts so they don’t work outside their OG device, and then charge 75/80% of a new phone for any kind of repair. The world is save, thanks Apple!
@@Neonregenesis Aplle is such good of a seward to the environment that they conviniently forget to add a charger to your iPhone kit (knowing that many will buy unfit charger resulting in truncated battery lifespan, LOL).
@@Neonregenesis safe. or saved.
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler Stop spamming your nonsense on unrelated comments.
Yes! Right to repair should be everywhere, I'm really hoping it starts spreading more and more
Same, it makes me sick how many broken stuff I had, always tried contacting the brand and never had luck with any company yet, they just say the regular blah blah blah thank you and we sell no parts...
In my opinion almost every product should have been like cars where everything or at least almost everything is made to sell as parts, however they still sadly have the problem of costing a damn lot which suck.
Start by not buyng apple peoducts
@@UnipornFrumm Never bought and probably never will😎.
They are really some of the most overpriced piece of garbage out there that just having that eaten Apple logo makes them charge pretty high while at least on most of their laptops they have many design flaws that keep breaking and apple continue to launch them with a ton of problems and they don't give a dam because they keep buying it👏💰💸
@@guily6669 and when they do brake there is no way to fix apple divices
@@rustyshackleford7200 it's not opinion it's everywhere... Apple is the company on the entire planet who charges far more for extra memory, they refuse to fix some devices and do not sell parts either and are against repairing.
Their modern computers using intel and whatever known hardware would always end miles more expensive than the same specs from any brand without an eaten Apple logo and probably with their defective design fixed...
They made so many defective designs and even blame the users...
Then everyone pays a lot to them thinking they must at least pay well to workers that have all the proper conditions yet not many time ago apple workers in China wanted to commit mass suicide from the poor conditions and bad salary, apple "fixed it" and some time later a similar situation happened which mean they haven't fixed shit.
Do I really need to buy a product with a eaten apple to know all of this?
Ps: or is it that shitty Mac OS that is worth the extra BIG price difference? Because I don't want it not even 4 free, garbageware that look like it's made 4 kids and I hate their design, I hate the UI, I hate their icons...
Lifting up that 2017 sticker and seeing 2010 just sums it all up! Classic!!
2017 means the day the sticker was printed
@@apache1120 See, the Chinese DON'T lie about everything! lol
hahahahhaa
Totally agree phones should be able to replace batteries. It is such a throw away world in this day and age.
What I miss about old phones, is when your phone died, just being able to take the battery out and put in a fresh one really fast. LIKE HOW IT SHOULD BE!!!!@
I still use my cheap old flip phone that I can easily swap out battery in seconds. I like this phone because it is NOT internet capable....I use an Android for internet. I do not store any identifiable personal info on it...never use it as a phone.
Phones today do have a good reason for being sealed though. That is, they’re IP68 water resistant and can survive a drop in the pool.
@@TylerN945 That doesnt matter, they could still make the battery easily removable and also have the phone be water tight ha
@@VashStarwind It certainly does matter. A phone with a removable back simply cannot have the water resistance that let’s say the iPhone 13 Pro max has. You need a strong water tight adhesive to get an IP68 rating for 6 meters up to 30 minutes. Besides, with all the software that apple implements into their phones, you can easily get a battery to last 3 years+ without noticing a significant decrease in the battery’s efficiency. $70 to change the battery at an apple store 3 years from purchasing an iPhone isn’t bad either. People usually upgrade their phones by then.
@@TylerN945 You sound like an apple employee lol
You can actually find genuine "new" batteries for older phones. "new" meaning never unpacked since manufacturing date years ago, and as result, completely discharged through self-discharge and dead as a doornail.
almost true. they dont make extras for sale so its out of a doa fone like from a carrier. most parts are stripped carrier returns that are icloud or google locked . otherwise somebody reverse engineers and makes the parts. takes about 6months to get a good working aftermarket part. in some cases the aftermarket part is better because its newer tech and not ripped out of a dead fone
@@bermyvlogger Apple makes extra batteries for sale to Authorized Repair Centers and Authorized Service Providers. How these would make it into the hands of other people I'm not sure but I've personally swapped out an iPhone 7 battery for one with a manufacturer date of 2020
This video just confirms that we have to take a stance to the huge corporations, and claim our Right to repair. Not being able to buy a genuine replacement battery is (almost) criminal. It's one step up from the 3000 euro per liter price for printer ink.
I bought a "high capacity" battery for my iPhone 6s in China many years ago. It didn't make any outrageous claims, I think it was just 10% more than the original. It worked like a treat, and easily got me through a full day in Beijing's harsh winters, where the original battery gave up after a few minutes.
So, I guess it is all down to luck.
Finding the right company that is not scamming is key. I use genuine FlyCDI batteries here in the Philippines and my experience has been great. These batteries are actually pretty close to what they rate them for, which is higher than OEM apple sold batteries. ❤
Bad spelling in labels usually occurs when the printer is asked to do stuff that’s outside their duties-skills (writing, translating, designing, etc). Printers comply in order to get the job and those extras are not charged.
I saw a cartoon where the printer's assistant told his boss "You only told me to proofread it...you didn't say anything about correcting it".
As long as “anti-right to repair” is being pushed by manufacturers, people have little to no incentive to pay xx amount for a genuine battery, when they can pay x amount online, and get one…
But on the other hand, if/when manufacturers start selling genuine parts, nothing stops them from charging exorbitant amounts to discourage people from repairing their devices… just so they buy new devices.
There only one issue I have yet to have a phone battery wear out before u was thinking of upgrading because phone was running slow and software updates weren't available any more
@@mattpolton3802 do you think that this is by accident?
@@adamjj001 no just hardware get out of data
Incentive for a genuine battery? What 'genuine' batteries?
@@danielyoung_ just a lot of people would upgrade phone in 3 or 4 years not replaced battery because cpu us too old
I took my problematic iphone to an Apple centre and the smart salesman took it out the back and said it was unrepairable and proceeded to show me the latest model to purchase. I did not believe him. I took my phone to an Indian shop on the high street (UK) and the fellow put a new battery in for £20 and voila! good as new. A year later, all still good.
nice
The spelling mistakes were fantastic. Love it.
A few years back I purchased a replacement "genuine" battery for my Nexus 5 and the capacity was significantly worse than the original worn out battery lol, I wish it was easy to get a quality battery for an affordable price.
This is even more sad considering they actually did sell original ones. At least the one I got was. Behaved just like new on day one and degraded just as quickly as the one the phone shipped with, going from one charge every two days to 30% at the end of the day in about 30 months.
Order from Taiwan or Hong Kong and your chances are much better to recive what you paid for, maybe Ameica will get off their DUFF and start manufaturing again, OH I forgot their are few if any left in our country that have the required knowledge to make anything of old country standards when we were very near the number one in the World. Thank GOD Japan is still around to supply us with first class quality and South Korea seems to make decent products as well.
Original battery worked for 5 years in my iPhone 5s, then each new one worked about a year. One worked for several months before making phone scorching hot when discharged. I’d say it is impossible to find a good one, so now I’m going to replace my devices as soon as battery degrades😾
Even manufacturer replacements can be sometimes scam.
I got my iPhone X battery replaced in an Apple Store.
Previous battery capacity was 82%
And current charge status was 11%
New battery capacity was 100% (healthy)
Current charge was 11%
There’s 1 chance out of 100 the charge status would be the same on different batteries.
Using the new battery felt exactly like the last one, and it reached 80% capacity again within months.
While I don’t have any proof they simply reset the battery controller chip, I have strong suspicion. I didn’t note the battery serial number but I should have.
The EU wants all phones to be charged with a USB-C cable. I'd rather see the return of the removable battery so you can get it replaced easier l, faster and cheaper.
Companys will argue with
- it looks ugly
- its not waterproof then
And Tbh. Otherwise the phones will die because they fall in water
@@feuerherz007 have them explain phones without the removable battery OR water resistance
@@feuerherz007 most right to repair supporters say you can have an internal battery, but at least sell the genuine battery or allow suppliers to sell them
I dont have a problem with glued backs,its not that hard to remove if you are carefull,but i m for right to repair,we should be able to buy the battery and glue template from the manufacturer and other conponents,or at least have them avalable for repair shops
Usb c should be standard for every device not just phones
Hugh, you are doing the TH-cam community a tremendous service. To some of us, this is not news, but to the majority it is. Keep up the good work!
Note 7 baby! what an explosive release! Really FIRED up the crowds! Left customers BURNING for more!
Couldn't have said it better myself
The phone smoked the competition.
I really wanted that phone when it releases till I found out it went kaboom
Samsung really "exploded" the market with that phone
Such a heated statement, watch the comment section blow up.
You are absolutely right phone companies thought why sell battery when they can sell a whole new phone, by adapting battery internal technology and making repairing more complex and hard day by day. Need to work more hard on right to repair movement.
And cheaper in the manufacturing process on the way as well...
its harder to replace only because of water proofing, not to intentionally make you struggle.
they probably sold more phones due to water damage than battery issues.
Great video! I think this is an important topic for people to understand, regardless of how tech-savvy you are. Working in the repair industry, I urge people to use legitimate sources when it comes to getting a repair done, regardless if they do it themselves or not.
For example, I had a gentleman come into our store today with a ZTE phone. His charging port went bad, so he went to some "repair shop" to get it looked at (he didn't know/disclose the shop). They tore down the device, desoldered the port, then said they couldn't get the parts and had this gentleman a box with his phone torn down.
I'm disappointed that someone would put this guy in a position like this. Especially since he's older. I said to him that he should come to us in the future for any needs as we would never do that to a customer, regardless if we were able to resolve their situation.
So again, I urge you. Do your research and only work with reputable sources. Doesn't matter if you're doing the repair yourself or outsourcing it to a manufacturer or an authorized repair partner.
How do you find a reputable source
@@akajessca I would just start with the products you see in PRG’s videos. He wouldn’t recommend something we shouldn’t use
Was it an Axon 7 by any chance? I had the same failure and put in an aftermarket board, that unfortunately did not have circuitry it needed to do fast charging. I knew that going in, but it still sucked being back on 500mA charge rates.
I refuse to buy another iPhone or Apple product until I can easily replace the battery myself. Apple started the non replaceable battery scam.
Totally on board with Right to Repair!! So glad you talked about that. So many reasons to have strong right to repair laws - including climate change and reasonable costs for the consumer.
Still apple ripping off with their battery prices
I paid for it so I have every right to do whatever I want to it. If I want to repair it or throw it away.
The fact that whichever company (likely based in China) making those unbranded gold batteries can just fake the wear levels like how similar scammers in the automotive industry would use custom devices to fake odometer readouts, really throws me off. I feel as though those kinds of companies make up most of what gives the Right to Repair movement a bad reputation, because they likely put fake labels on the batteries so they can make money without a care in the world.
(This part invalidated due to the 5th reply to this comment)
Faking the battery readouts could lead to the batteries exploding since the management chip wouldn't know that the battery cell already has tons of wear on it!
Sadly it also means that it gives Apple/Samsung etc the reason to lock their hardware so things can't easily be replaced without issues. They can now justify it's the only way to know you're getting genuine safe spare parts...only from them of course.
@@Dedubya- To be fair you can also argue that the only reason why they are buying batteries from third party companies is because they can't buy it from the companies themselves.
No an uncalibrated chip could never lead to an explosion.
These old cells could barely make your hands warm when you short out the bare cell.
@@two_number_nines
Oh.
dude, apples official batteries are also made in china, stop thinking all products made in china are boycott and cheap
The idea of an internal battery opened the doors for scammers...
The ones that put a non-removable glass cover on back of your phone and don't let you replace the battery at all.
It's a sacrifice for water resistance I think
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle No, it's so you have to open the phone through the screen, significantly increasing the chance you will damage it.
@@venturoes1912 dude that's fucking stupid no company designed a phone to be opened through the screen even now in the time of phones being a bitch to open you still do it from the back
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle ever opened an iPhone 6s?
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle Try about any Samsung the past few years, pry the screen off without breaking it then remove the frame screws holding frame to the back.
I recommend removing the motherboard from the frame one the back is removed then you can wrestle with the adhesive holding the battery to the frame.
Might want to test the capacity of your replacement battery, it might be weaker than the used original.
Love your vids. So interesting and honest. You cover topics that are diverse. With your help I hope to finally have the confidence to replace the old, almost dead, battery on my old Galaxy S8 for my 10 year old grandson andv6 year old granddaughter to play on.
I really could not afford to get it done at a shop.
I think I will enjoy having a go.
Thank you.
Great job on the right to repair push. I hope the “average” person gets behind this and it’s no longer just the people that do the repairs that understand how important this truly is 😊
It's too complicated.
@@Graeme_Lastname its not
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.zlkga
@@Graeme_Lastname No its not
Right to repair!
Thank you very much for this excellent & honest review of phone batteries. This shows the truth about the world having so much corruption in business & political dealings. Like you said, it's best to get the batteries replaced from the manufacturers & not elsewhere just because you can save a few bucks!
When a replacement battery is £79 and the phone only cost £100. Sometimes it’s best to take your chances, do your research and get a battery from a reputable company, just not the manufacturer.
This works for Apple phones because of the HIGH replacement cost for a new phone. For those of US with lesser means who buy $200 Android phones, professional service doesn't make economic sense! So, we are stuck with buying "a pig in the poke" batteries!
ok but where do you buy good batteries?
Tip for Sony Ericsson batteries: they *always* have the full datecode on show. For example at 5:52 it says 17W07 on the fake and 10W05 on the real label, denoting 2017 week 7 and 2010 week 5 respectively. When Sony and Ericsson split, Sony kept the labeling scheme for their batteries mostly similar, including the yyWww datecode (at least to the point where they started gluing batteries in as well)
I had a sony Ericsson never a single problem... aside from the inability to use none Sony Ericsson apps. Even though it was android based.
Knaeckebrotsaege
L00K closely at the battery and if you were paying attention,
you would see that it is SONY and not Sony.
Typically zombies have eyes bit cannot see --Ears and cannot hear.
So learn to pay attention to detail.
These names are written the way they are for a reason that is beyond
your present ability to comprehend.
@@andrew_koala2974 Whatchu talkin bout, Willis?
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.nyzda
@@thomasturner8093 feck off with your spam
I'll be honest, I probably fell for one of these, I replaced my phone battery a year or two ago, and while it was certainly better than the well used original, it wasn't even close to what it was to begin with. I had just assumed OS updates were causing increased use on the phone, and that is why it still wouldn't get through a full day anymore. And I don't have the testing equipment you do, so I can't be certain either. But this seems to most likely (especially since I got the exact same bag of part to open the phone with it).
For my experience, I had my iphone 7 battery replaced by an Apple store last march. I was expecting to go back to full day and a half battery life i was able to get out of the phone back in 2017 when new. But evidently, 4 major OS updates took their toll on the processor power consumption. Despite the new battery, I cannot get through an entire day anymore. And I'm 100% sure that the battery is genuine.
I have also been a victim of this scam in the past.
@@loresign4933 that's just an apple feature
@@TheGuruStud Apple has been prosecuted and found guilty for purposefully slowing down older phones (aka sabotage) via updates in the past, so it's not outside their MO.
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
6:55 that's from a Samsung Galaxy Note 7, aka the exploding phone!
the problem was that the battery was too large for the frame, hence the explosions. Reducing the capacity to 3200mAh (as seen in the Note FE) made them less explosive.
YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
The bomb phone
Less explosive?? Bruh
Yes of course "less". Every Lithium Batterie is a potential bomb. Any damage, even tiny ones to the internal separator will cause a chain reaction. Never an explosion but like magnesium or fireworks
Yes it did lessen the force of the explosion, using an official iPhone battery. I lost only 2 fingers instead of the rated 4.
I almost fell for one of these scams last week! Luckily, I did some research beforehand and found a reputable repair shop. Your video is much needed - thanks for helping expose these dishonest practices.
Great video review - never even thought about looking under the sticker, but I also got hit by a scam battery once. Purchased it for an old Samsung (with a removable battery), needless to say, the battery was useless - was worse than the many years old original battery (which itelf had lost all abilities to hold a decent charge).
Also I agree, we need to do something about Right To Repair, there are certain companies (one in particular) that tries to hinder 3rd party repair.
apple
Yeah, on the iPhone 13 face id stops working when you change the screen even though they have nothing to do with each other
You're right. I think this is a business that came to stay. The sticker part also triggered me, hahaha. However, this will never change.
Apple
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
An advice that will be always safe for everyone especially buying battery:
If it’s too good to be true, then it probably is.
Unless it's gold. Then it's definitely legit /j
Unless it's 5000mah sticker outside of 1250mah battery, it's safe /s
That's great advice for life in general, Don't believe your wishes - if it costs a third of the price then it's probably gonna die in a third of the time. And there are no such thing as amazing sale deals, only old stock nobody wanted ;)
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
This is a much much needed video to spread awareness, not only these Chinese manufacturers lie about the capacity and wrap old batteries in new gold stickers they are also prone to swelling and combust due to old age, I had this happen with a Samsung Note 5 replacement (gold) battery. I am glad the right to repair movement is going to take off soon.
The misspelling on the batteries and weird margins kind of reminded me of Micheal MJD's Microsoft Office 2010 *Genuine Saftware/Sofuare* saga. (srsly the Saftware was my favorite part of it)
I repaired the IPhone XR from my buddy (he drove over there in error), I bought the battery and the display from iFixit and the rear frame from eBay, the iFixit products fit great but the eBay ones weren't that good.
Repairing an iPhone is absolute pain and takes forever (3.5 hours).
I agree with you that it is better to buy branded spare parts, because they are usually of better quality.
I love your videos and what you do 👍
Should've bought a frame + battery + small parts combo
It's super easy and fast
All you really end up having to move is face id, the screen and the board
As a lifetime career service tech in several industries, it has been my experience that any replacement part that states,
"professional quality" or "genuine part" ... ISN'T !
You might save some cash buying a knockoff part but will inevitably be disappointed.
As the saying goes ... The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.hwowa
True, but the multinationals, phone or other, won't allow you as a consumer to buy original parts in general.
In the watch industry, for example, ( yes you Seiko-Epson) it is just as bad. And the Chinese, they are masters of fake products!
or as some say 'a pig in a poke ' ,
When I buy replacement parts, I look for "factory OEM" on the package. NOT, "direct replacement" or "direct fit"! You are going to pay more for the "OEM" part, but believe me, in the long run IT IS WORTH IT!!!!
Honestly, I don’t think it should be named ‘Right To Repair’ but ‘Right To Replace’ when it comes to batteries, forcing manufacturers to design products that allow the consumer to easily replace batteries in mobile devices. The amount E-Waste has exploded due to the whole “Just replace it” mentality now. Great video and 1000% true.
what is your reasoning behind this?
It seems odd that CHEAP TV remotes have user replaceable batteries, with remotes costing $5. While cell phones costing HUNDREDS of dollars feature "sealed" batteries, in some cases, glued back covers! What is wrong with this picture?
i knew these things were garbage! changed out so many and hardly ever solved the issue. Never thought to pull off those labels. well done!
When I was young most TVs and radios used vacuum tubes and most tubes were one of a half dozen common types. The local drug store had a tube testing machine with a stock of the most common tubes. Anybody could take all of the tubes from their radio or TV down to the store and test them. The testing machine had a meter with a needle that pointed to a green, yellow, or red area depending on the tube's condition. Tubes that tested as red were bad, yellow were weak, and green were good. After replacing the bad tubes the radio or TV would usually work for a few more years. Equipment that operates for decades is probably better for the environment thant ones that are easily recycled.
Those "tube testers" could only be trusted if the meter indicated "BAD" . Just because you got a "GOOD" reading did not mean the tube was good. The only real way to test a "GOOD" tube was by substituting a KNOWN good tube!
@@TheOzthewiz Thanks for responding to my post. Are you sharing what you have experienced or what you have read? In my case it was actual experience repairing radios, TVs, and one HP VTVM. In many cases the heater would go open and the tube would not glow when it was in circuit and was usually bad. If the tube was glowing it could still be bad and the tube tester gave some more information. In my experience in about 95% of the cases replacing a tube that tested bad caused the device to return to operation. In less than 1 case in 20 all tubes would test good but the device still wouldn't work properly. In those cases the quick tube test was just the beginning of the adventure.
Thank you Hugh for making this video. Thanks for informing us on knockoff batteries and how they can literally scam people.
If you know Korean or Japanese it's much easier to determine whether it's fake or not; since most of these counterfeit goods manufacturer does not understand both languages, phrases printed on the label often misspelled, or on very bad quality.
e.g. Writing ソ as ン, ツ as シ in the Japanese context, and ㅊ as ㅎ, ㅏ/ㅓ as ㅣin Korean…
Another one would be using the wrong kanji in the case of japanese, specifically using a simplified version used in chinese but not japanese or vice versa. Although katakana and hangul should be easier.
It would like reading "do nut peel thE stickr" but if it was in another language
Misspells in English are a good enough indicator
Very sound presentation there are plenty who will do that.
When I worked at Qld Main roads as a P3 engineer working on product approvals;
I noticed the amount of un-tested and non-approved product creeping into the Qld Main-roads network.
I reported my suspicion to management then to the CMC and they referred it back to TMR for investigation;
Snow job investigation ! the Evidence I'd collected wasn't looked at as they had some other agenda?
I got added to Premier Campbell Newman's 22,000 public service cull & haven't worked since.
RE: The Samsung batteries, I'm guessing that used authentic battery came from a Note 7, the infamous exploding kind.
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.jaqoa
Sony has had several major recalls because of flawed battery engineering and failed Quality Control and probably no field testing? What is it about corporations, are they to cheap to set up Quality Control or did they figure the consumers would find the problems with their failed products and someone elses expense? Next, explosions like commercial aircraft and Laptops???
To clarify the Audience, that'd be the OVERSTUFFED one (it almost didn't fit the cavity it supposed to go inside) they sold originally. There is a narrower (less capacity) one offered in the Fan Edition of the Note 7 sold in some countries after the debacle to get rid of the remaining components.
Totally agree, there are plenty of scammers out there and honesty is not something they’re interested in but in making money out of people. When I need a replacement battery, I’d always go to the product retailer and pay more but I’ll know that it’ll be genuine and will have a warranty.
Apple products have "retailers", while CHEAP Motorola phones have NO stores to go to for parts and service at CHEAP rates! The "service" for my Motorola G phone consists of ME finding a "round" file and placing said phone into that file! LOL
@@TheOzthewizThat’s what you ger for buying cheap brands
Hi Hugh, just wanted to thank you for this video, after watching it I managed to find an (almost) local manufacturer who puts their brand on the batteries. Immediately I felt more confidence in buying from them. (And the batteries are actually good - what a surprise) Unfortunately I'm still struggling to find a reputable seller for Android batteries, but there's a website that specialises in batteries so I'm hoping I'll finally get a good replacement for my poor dying Nokia 8.1. You're really helping my side hustle man, I will be forever grateful, I'm lovin' this hobby
Did you end up finding a legit supplier for android batteries? I would be interested as well for my phone.
th-cam.com/video/WGsxnCSfmpo/w-d-xo.html
+1 I'm interested too
Excellent video and accurate! I've purchased many batteries from many companies including Nuu Power 99 ( misspelled purposely) to replace the battery myself. Not one of those batteries came close to the power rating claimed. Sending the device to the company for a genuine replacement is not only expensive but you're without your device for weeks. Having the replacement done at some shop is worse. In my case the replacement battery was inferior as power was measured by an installed app. The phone's case started to separate indicating that insufficient glue was used. You are pretty much forced to replace the unit in order to get a proper battery one that doesn't start separating and coming apart.
This was a very well done video and I enjoyed it. However I just want to point out that your BN930 battery looks like a second generation Note 7 Battery, not the first generation prone to fire. Most cell phones nowadays have a rectangular motherboard or L-shaped motherboard with a rectangular battery aligned right up against the edge of the board. The Note 7 had no faults in its board design other than its shape, which indirectly caused the battery issue. The Note 7 board is nearly an L-shape, but with a "cut corner". As a result of having two 45% angles in close proximity rather than a true 90 degree corner, the battery could not be shaped as a true rectangle and still fit in place without some wasted space. Two battery manufacturers were selected by Samsung to create matching pentagonal batteries, which looked like a standard rectangle with one cut corner. Neither manufacturer, nor Samsung, tested these flawed pentagonal battery designs thoroughly enough and the phone was rushed to market. Batteries from either source had the same defect which led to thermal runaway failures. After Samsung recalled millions of Note 7 phones, they solved the issue permanently by simply building a shorter rectangular battery. It was slightly lower capacity, but allowed them to safely refurbish every Note 7. The 100% safe, lower capacity phones were then sold as the Note Fan Edition. So if you see a rectangular N930 battery, that is technically a Note Fan Edition cell and not a Note 7 cell.
I was literally a couple hours away from ordering a high capacity battery for my friend's Iphone, you literally couldn't have timed this any better 😂
This makes me question the legitimacy of the 3rd party battery in my 6s plus even though its been running for nearly 3 years no problem. In that case can anyone recommend brands for legit higher capacity replacement batteries for a 6s plus?
Damn
Ifixit
@@frs-vr3mg no lol
@@karmakaze9972 why it's great
@@frs-vr3mg it’s one of the worst places you can go for phone parts lol
Remember, every phone can have a 15,000 MAH battery. Trust me. Oh, and spelling mistakes help in improving capacity.
Yup just like those 90,000 lumen flashlights for $5.99
But people would rather seperate power bank and phone
instead of having a power bank's weight permamently attached to your phone
Until graphene battery are in mass production
I think they should just drop the "m" in mAh to make huge improvement on battery capacity!
@@古明地恋-s9c nope, I'd rather have a bulkier phone that lasts for a few days on one charge.
Have you ever used your phone attached to a powerbank on the go? Made a call holding both phone and powerbank to your ear?
It's so freaking inconvenient! I hate powerbanks, I don't want to need those damn things in my daily life!
@@LRM12o8 Keep note the fact current limit of phone weight are 250-300 g and stuffing 8000 maH or above is not forseeable.
This is good video. The issue thou is that you cannot find batteries anymore anywhere. Manufacturers themself are probably limiting the production and genuine 3rd party manufacturers don't bother to cover enough models. Its horrible.
This makes total sense thank you. I bought a supposedly brand new battery at a cell phone repair shop and the battery was even worse on run time.
Just when you thought you've heard the end of the Note 7 references...Hugh adds another indirectly!
Anyone else remember the days when the battery was the entire back of the phone? You could buy a second battery with a charger that just charged the battery (like 18v battery tools do now) and you just rotated the batteries, one on the phone and one on the charger. Then we got to the golden age of phones where the battery tech had exceeded the capability of the phones, so one charge lasted you a whole week. Those were the days. These days smartphones chew so much power some of them are lucky to last the day without needing a charge.
Just buy a Doogee phone. V Max is the way.
A Motorola TAC-250 was one of them. I still have that phone , with a dead battery (NiMH. non-exploding). Analog phones are 100% unusable (I think), but I keep it for nostalgia reasons!
Excellent video. Combustibg lithium batteries keep me up at night, so I'm very glad to see some sensible advice being spread.
that cheeky little "oh actually this is about right to repair" at the end was awesome. great video mate!
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.klrra
4:03 seing Hugh surprised even though he knew it's a knock off is sublime
I'll never forget how the look on my Grandma's face made me bust out laughing after she asked what my wife's recharging brick was and I explained to her that wife's iPhone battery was glued in (she's seen me change the battery in my phone a bunch of times) and the look on her face clearly communicated what she was thinking, which was "well, who's the idiot who designed that?"
@@thomasturner8093 wtf are you talking about, where's the connection?
The idiot whose salary is paid by a 2+ trillion market cap company
Substandard corporate thinking led by self serving dummies that require Golden Parachutes before becoming CEO's.
@@greebj by screwing over its customers and nickel-and-diming them to fucking death. You can thank Android that you can now just make a short sound clip your ringtone without having to use your Mac to do it we've been doing that forever while iPhone bozos have been paying a dollar for each little download ridiculous
@@gadgetsage Thomas Turner has spammed that exact same reply to almost every comment on this video.
I agree with one commenter. This could've been avoided if the manufacturers sold official replacement batteries. This is really horrible. That's why I try to preserve my phone's battery life as long as possible. I used a Chargie and I also do some battery hacks, like using Dark Mode (I'll do this until forever!!!).
Remember if it looks gold it definitely means its legit
I just sold a kitkat wrapped in gold foil on eBay, this does work. I also wrote "Leggitt" on the box, so people know it is that ;)
*Scammers are the main villain in the tech world*
Scammers and big tech companies
@@ralphal7022 what's the difference?
Scammers arise when the real villian prevents you from using genuine parts
@@nayutakani2055 nah scammers just appear out of thin air when a new product comes out
They also give hope when company don't provide spare parts
I had my iPhone X battery replaced by Apple a couple of weeks ago (due to swelling and it was forcing open the screen). Cost £69 but at least I know it was a genuine Apple battery, done properly and re-sealed for water resistance. They also replaced the speaker free of charge as that is their standard procedure when replacing an iPhone X battery; I doubt anyone else would bother with that.
Is the iPhone X speaker dying a common issue? My left lower speaker is non functional, has been for years
I keep trying to explain this to people it’s only $80 to replace a battery versus cheaping out and trusting a third party for a few dollars less or spending $800-1000 on an entirely new phone. $80 for a battery replacement on a nearly $1000 phone is a small price to pay imo.
@@eligreg99 Indeed, but people are stupid and instead, they come up with all these conspiracy theories against OEM manufacturers.
@Daruki Neo I’m not bothered by it. I just try to assist people with saving money. It’s called advice but I’ve realized people in this day of age don’t receive advice well and write it off as if I’m “bothered” by their decisions.
@@eligreg99 buying Apple products isn't saving money
The biggest scammers are the phone manufacturers like Apple and Samsung, who make the non-removable batteries a norm. Apple as the cherry on top, even encoded the batteries with serial numbers so that you can't even switch it from another iPhone of same model. This is because one of the main reasons people force to buy a new iPhone in one or two years is because the battery gets degraded. If they kept the battery removable, then their sales would have gone down to be dramatically low. So in conclusion, I don't think the serious scams are these cheap battery sellers who are trying to make a few bucks. The real scammers are the Apple or other giants, who intentionally designed their products in such a way that will be unusable after a certain time.
I see so many of these bootleg batteries come up at work. Always when "I just had it replaced at this place in the mall a couple months ago and now it won't stay on longer than a few minutes", and they're always swollen, and in some cases, starting to vent.
Never had a problem with getting decent replacements for less popular models of phones. I usually got exactly what I ordered with my HTC phones, even my Pixel replacement was legit. Samsung, Sony and Apple on the other hand are a minefield.
I never go for "genuine", and given physical size related to capacity directly (on good made battery which phone providers do use), theres almost not a chance anyone could squeeze more power into that size o a battery so....
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.tdoga
This dude is a life savor, he should be the first recommended video Uptop when people search for battery replacement on TH-cam
This is probably the biggest issue with long term repairability of devices: Each device has it's own battery type, and only "a few" are made by the manufacturer for 1-2 years. After that period, no new batteries of this type are made and you can only find counterfeits or scam "refurbished" batteries. Until there is a law that ALL lithium ion batteries must be standardized (like how disposable alkaline batteries are standardized), we are doomed. Imagine being able to go to your local mini market and picking up a "standard" lithium-ion type LI-123 4000mAh battery for your 15 year old phone, because it fits ALL phones made in the last 15 years.
Ebay allow this to occur as they line their pockets with the commission on each sale.
EBay sux donkey dix, can’t even look at their site without disgust.
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.tjpya
Amazon has got to be held liable once they're on notice of things like this.
they will not. money = power
In ideal world: YES, but not in this world. Look how much Tax Apple or Amazon pays...At least they could pay the tax in the country they sell the products in and not skip on paying it. This is missing money in the pool, that, everybody who pays taxes, will need to top up.
@@marwerno hence why we are all poor.
Somebody just relaxed in regulation authorities. I live long enough to remember how they were standards for all types of batteries. Lithium ion batteries somehow became an exception from those regulations. We were betrayed by NIST, FCC, CFPB, ISO, Мостест, Росстандарт and others.
Likely the companies lobbied to not have standards made... stating that they needed it so they could make them work "better"
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.ecifa
While staying in Shenzhen, China as an exchange students I used to go to the infamous Huaqianlu street. You would see hundreds of grandma's taking apart old phones and changing the stickers on batteries. They even had fake phones, my first phone was actually a fake S3. This was in 2013 mind you.
Scooby Doo unmasking the fake monster meme makes alot of sense now 😂
Great video. I too have experienced the same thing with replacement laptop and dyson batteries. There was a seller on ebay selling replacement "high capacity" batteries for dyson vacuum cleaners claiming 3500 mah capacity. Once I took it apart, I found it was just 1500 mah. Reported that to ebay and they did nothing about it.
In short, I believe most replacement batteries sold that come from china are bogus in some way.
If sellers such as Amazon and eBay acted on this information, then a lot of these battery scams would disappear.
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.ahjea
I actually got an original Apple battery for my iPhone 6, with impressive packaging, with the Foxconn label, serial number, build date and all... I do think it was a battery from Foxconn, given to an Apple Service store but then sold off to someone on Amazon on the side. It works perfectly with the battery health and all showing up.
Good for u man, americans are lucky to have those stores
@@sickbot2626 I'm actually in India :)
Not only that, but they are required by federal law to ship batteries with the warning labels, because they can start a fire, they have started fires, and people have died because of mislabeled or unlabeled batteries that were shipped without those warnings. There's a huge fine for that as well I believe, around $250,000 plus jail time.
I have an S7 edge and bought a replacement battery that only lasted half as long as an S7 battery should. It then ballooned up and stopped working after a month
I have an S7 and I replaced the battery and it is good, I can get 2 days out of it with 7 hours of screen on time (no games, just TH-cam or browsing)
Same here
@@dotankoch where did you buy the battery?
@@defnotatroll Where do you live? I live in Slovakia so I don't know if the info will be of any use to you.
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
Another thing i hate is manufacturers using a strong adhesive to stick the battery to the frame. The pull tabs are built to last only for one or two years. It's really dangerous to remove the battery as it can sometimes puncture the battery or damage the phones frame or display due to the pressure. I spent a good 5 mins trying to carefully remove the battery from my phone.
I really miss the good old days when phones were easy to open and repair
One trick to use a hair-dryer and heat the screen (not the batttery itself) nice and warm and the adhesive should be much more pliable.
Phone Repair Guru found out that simply replacing the display on an iPhone 13 disables Face ID.
W H A T
bad news for users...........good news for screen protectors sellers though!
Apple removed the plastic on its boxes but not fix the anti right to repair problem? Apple, Stop trying to be Eco friendly company when you are anti right to repair with your stupid bs
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!!
That's true for all iPhones since the iPhone X. Face ID is paired to the board for "security reasons"
It's not just phone batteries, but any kind of battery. USB power banks are a massive source of fake batteries. I bought a pack that was advertised at nearly 40,000 mAh. I knew when I bought it that was a lie as I have real 40,000mAh packs that are over twice the weight. Sure enough after testing it was only around 17,000mAh. Still a deal for what I paid as 20,000mAh packs were selling for around the price I paid. It's been nearly 4 years and the pack is still going strong.
The battery of my Gameboy advance is still giving me hours of fun.. A replacement I ordered inflated and went bad on its own in the shelf xD
It reminds me of the *_mold in this video_* th-cam.com/video/cJpn0wkihWk/w-d-xo.html&.kvcva
@@thomasturner8093 do you just spam this comment on other comments? Lol
My experience in replacing multiple phone and tablet batteries has been the opposite - most of the cheap replacement batteries I've bought online have been as good or better as the original manufacturer ones. I think part of the reason for this is that the manufacturers have a profit motive to place cheap, poor batteries in phones (lower manufacturing costs and encouraging replacement in about a year). To be fair, I think consumers have an unrealistic expectation of how long these batteries can last, especially at optimal performance. If you want to keep your phone or tablet going and your a heavy user, you really should replace the batteries every 1-2 years.
I would love to know where you purchase these "good" batteries ! I have purchased five batteries online for my older 4rth. Gen. Ipod color type. All failed after only three Months sitting in the Ipod. Even with bi weekly charges.
@@jimreilly6933 he won't tell you🤭
Exactly. Battery = battery
I'm for the right to repair. Let the movement grow and gain traction. I would say governments have been a disappointment in this regard because this should be a no-brainer elementary right for people and good for the environment
My iPhone 4S battery died just outside of the warranty, so I bought a battery off of Amazon. It required the smallest Phillips size in existence and I've had less trouble replacing motherboards. Several months later, the battery exploded in my car, igniting the interior and nearly catching my house on fire. The car was a total loss and I had to take the loss. That was my last iPhone.
Didn't Apple also have EXPLODING laptops a while back?
Wow!
Oh.
Great video, more people need to be aware of these kinds of scams i see these crap batteries everywhere. They can cause some serious damage to your device or even you.
Very important video Hugh! You are a true hero!
The spelling errors are egregious, but I’m not opposed to “tomperature” being used whenever I use a thermometer.
well yes, I only used to buy the cigarettes with the pregnancy warning on then, cos I, as a man couldn't get pregnant!!!! 🤣😅
After experiencing some dud replacement GK40 replacements, I found VHBW battery to relatively reliable.
From the recalled Note 7 by chance?
that’s what i thought
True. This was the recalled infamous note 7
@@danteerskine7678 I miss the days of an easily replacable battery. My phone going on 4 years now and battery is still performing ok
@@12voltvids nah. Replaceable batteries aren't missing me that much. Besides that, the key secret to battery longevity is to use not one but more than one phone.
I didn't know that until I found out that I didn't need to charge my galaxy j7 every day. I don't use flagship so, I prefer to use more than 1 budget phone. After 5 years of moderate use, I found out that my galaxy j7 battery which is a typical 3000 mah battery hasn't depleted and I still could get 2 days of use like when it was new.
Batteries do deplete in one way or another but I found out how to use a phone much more longer without battery replacement, same thing for my older Redmi note 3, no battery depletion either.
But sign of times, I replaced them by a Samsung galaxy a12, a redmi 9 prime, a Nokia G10 and a OPPO a53, which comes respectively with batteries of 5000 mah capacity. These devices are cheap and pack some decent ram and USB c, so why not.
These phones I have right now could hold a full week and there's juice still left. So more phones, less battery cycles
the FE, Fire Edition
I've experienced this with recent laptop battery replacement purchases. Does not have the capacity it should have, and drops in percentage suddenly. The sellers knows this so when the replacement was also shit, they gave a refund straight away.
I have a HP charger for my laptop that you could cook a chicken on as it gets that hot, it's the one that came with the laptop.!!!
@@blackcountryme you can cook food? I also have a laptop that I use gaming (low end laptop with i7 6600u with integrated graphics, ddr4 default spped 2x4gb) I'll just play something very hard to run games with intel CPU boost feature (basically overclocking but on locked and it's selected amount and can't be changed)
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!!
2:52 Jeez, how many spelling mistakes on that battery, considering they're supposed to be warnings ?!
'Rocycle' ~ 'risk of filre or burne' ~ 'Do not crunh' ~ 'tomperatures' 🙄🤣🤣
.... so which one should we buy?
Just buy super expensive ones,;go sell your house to get a branded phone, so the CEO han grow and reach that wealth level he wants to buy another island, a golden lamborghini, 7 bigger mansions and such. Everything works!