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- DC Comics has rebooted their timeline 5 major times coupled with small reboots sprinkled into the mix. The question being to have one concurrent timeline or to continue the reboots is not so simply answered but rather, individually preferenced.
Thanks to @operatorsteff663 & @cak17 for the comments and let me know if you think the different continuities are happening to often!
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If dc is going to do another reboot, I feel like they need to simplify and streamline things rather than doing all these big, crazy multiversal event comics all the time. It makes it difficult to keep track of whats actually going on.
I don’t understand
Why dc comics does not do
What the movies and shows do
Different timelines
Different versions
"Does DC Have A Continuity Problem?"
You don't say!
Let me clarify, so I don’t sound like a five-year-old
The reason I said it sucks it’s because these characters that I love paid money for and all around just have a good time with them just disappear
If the writers want to do something new, go do it in an alternate universe just don’t mess with the main universe
I would like if dc reboot his universe when the old universe has ended a story that for example: all the heroes died of old age or something.
Conceptually, 5G would’ve been a great way to do that. Almost like the Life Story books in DC.
It’s just a shame that the idea for it was bogged down by…well everything else.
I’m fine with reboots but they’re just happening too often now
I would prefer a consistent single universe that spans multiple decades and satisfied multiple generations of fans alone rather than constant rebooting the universe every couple of years. However there needs to be total reassurance the sole creator of the universe is a master of their craft. The sole creator needs to make 1000% certainty they have the imagination, creativity and dedication to make many, many, MANY stories taking place in this universe and have plans for every single character in there as well as making sure the stories told will be exciting and fresh for the audience and never feel tired. It's much harder done than said and saying it alone sounds like an insurmountable task, but there will no doubt eventually come someone who will be able to single-handedly take the reigns of the DC Universe and have a plan for everyone. From the characters journey, to the stories being told, to even anticipating audience responses and able to adapt.
That's what DC was for most of the years I collected them.
The decades between Crisis on infinite Earths & Infinite Crisis.
Now it's so all over the place I can't even keep up...... no point.
I don't think anyone wants to write Batman for decades, but you definitely need someone to make sure the stories don't contradict each other, and that they have a certain level of quality.
@@Oblivion___ It doesn't have to just be Batman, overtime we can introduce the rest of the bat family into the fold, from Robin and Batgirl, to Red Hood and Batwoman, later on add in Cassandra Cain, etc. Same goes for the Superman Family or the Green Arrow Family, and the rest.
@@BrokenToy Now you're talking about 1 people looking at multiple lines of comics. In this case, it would be impossible for him to play the role of writer and write multiple stories for different comics, they would just be a coordinator.
One thing I don’t like about DC comics is that they keep trying to make legacy characters, but none of the replacement are good, or likeable, so they just go back to the status quo, if you want to make a new Batman, have it be Dick or Damien, not Jace Fox
I would love it if Dc took a page from the good ol Marvel book and tried their hand at their own "Ultimate Universe." Obviously, the Ultimate comics were overall not too great outside of Spider-Man, but the concept behind the creation of that Universe is fantastic.
They kinda had that once. They had earth 1 but they canned it
Tyrell, I have very constructive idea about this.
1. Make sure story is very simple and easy to follow and it has beginning and end.
2. Do reboot in every five six years.
3. More than this story would be increasingly complex. And hard to follow.
4. With each reboot, every character should have no hangover from past. They must have fresh beginning for new readers.
5. At most 25 characters are enough. We don't need more than this. Otherwise people can't follow.
6. Always follow the money. Give importance to what sell more.
7. Stick to same writers and artists who began with first issue.
DC:
- We're going to make super complicated stories explaining the reboot.
- 1 Year after everything went wrong, we will make even more complicated stories explaining how old versions of the characters were brought back and merged with the new ones.
Tyler, I know you don't like New 52. But new 52 was more successful than Rebirth sell wise.
Oh I don't doubt that. I feel like I would actually like New 52 over Rebirth. And I think my bias for Pre-New 52 is why I'm not fond of New 52. Maybe I should give it another chance.
Yes they do, I started reading comics in 2016 with the announcement of rebirth and in just 3-4 years I was put off after death metal, reboot after reboot and status quo changes every year 💀
New continuities just don't really make sense to me because it really is just insanely hard to keep up with and what we know about certain characters is just being either slightly changed and so its now just such an insignificant redundant change or completely different and I don't want that version of the character in the main continuity so now I lose interest in that and am therefore looking for the next continuity change to fix that problem. Although I really wouldn't know how to go about creating that concrete continuity without telling the same stories over and over again.
I feel they just need to do one more big reboot, start from square one, no stories carried over except for the characters who exist existing, because I feel like nothing makes any sense anymore
Like let’s take Batman for example, they’d restart it from the origin but certain things would stay the same, dick Grayson would eventually become robin, Barbara would become batgirl, dick becomes nightwing, (maybe) Barbara gets paralysed so on, so forth
I just feel like they should start from scratch with the general skeleton of major events planned out, building the body as they go
Sounds a bit like how the MCU worked, especially in the earlier years, a general outline of what was going to happen and in what order that built up to something. I would love to see it run for a decade or two.
They tried this with the New 52, a few years later we got Rebirth, and the old versions of the characters returned. There is no idea you can say that DC hasn't already tried, failed miserably and the result is the current mess.
@@Oblivion___ yes, but they didn’t do that, they tried to carry stories over, they didn’t start from square one, it was confusing and it could’ve been prevented if they did an actual full reboot
...if I were to make my own story of the DC characters, I would start with their origins, then I would form the Justice League and give a complete and closed ending to the universe without doing a reboot.
really good video tyrell. nice job!!😊
I’d don’t like that we keep on getting these constant reboots but I feel like they do that so they can make new stories and events so that it can bring in new stories but at the same time if they do the same story it just won’t do well I really liked rebirth and new 52 but it just won’t be good if they keep on rebooting something that a lot of people don’t like or it’s a different reason
Honestly, I much prefer a timeline with a beginning, middle and end than staying in this endless cycle of starting and restarting...
That's exactly why I'm enjoying Invincible.
I love Elseorlds. What are some good Elseworlds series I could read? Already finished Kingdom Come and Gotham by Gaslight
The worlds you should check out is the Batman and Superman stories from Earth 1. They also have Green Lantern and Wonder Woman. Also the Batman/Joker comics by Lee Bremejo. He also did a tie-in Lex Luthor and Superman story.
@@tyrellmultimedia ok thx
I gave up on continuity. I read stuff for the story and judge it on that accordingly. Time, writer, and how good the story is. Done.
DC Comics has MANY continuity problems. I know I'm glad that it's not MY job to fix that s**t!
I gave up on continuity and just trying to enjoy the quality comics
The current continuity is Dawn of DC, before that there was a Dark Crisis. Before that was Death Metal etc, Doomsday Clock and then I think it was Rebirth… Rebirth is like five plus years ago. Rebirth was pretty good too, fixed a lot of 52’s mistakes.
So you're telling me they've rebooted 3-4 times in 5 years?
@@tyrellmultimedia not really
Honestly this is what I’d do with dc comics and not just dc but marvel as well. As we know the main dc earth is earth prime and for marvel it’s earth 616. So what I would do is every fan favorite character from Batman Superman Wonder Woman Spider-Man etc etc all get a character ending. Now that doesn’t mean kill them off maybe for specific ones ok but in general just give an ending to these characters. Maybe Batman gets a child with Selina in the main universe and that’s the ending. Or Wonder Woman becomes the queen of themiscara or something. Just give a every character a conclusive ending. And than from there u do 2 things. do a massive timeskip and start telling new stories with new characters( or Just characters that haven’t gotten enough lime light) and as for the fan favorite characters like Batman and Spider-Man to alternate stories and make a new continuity of a different take on the dc and marvel universe kinda like how current marvel comics are doing the new ultimate run
The lack of a real end point is why I could never get into comics and just stuck to adaptations.
Well that idea would probably collapse the industry because if you think ppl going to permanently read a Batman not named Bruce Wayne you be a fool
I’d rather have reboots than one long continuity that never really has an exact beginning or any ending in sight. I definitely prefer a story to have a beginning and an ending.
What's the point of a reboot if you still have to know everything that came before?
@@cahe6161 you don’t completely have to is the plus. Take Tomorrowverse and DCAMU. If you watch just the Tomorrowverse movies starting with Man of Tomorrow, you’re not missing that much more than someone who has seen all of the DCAMU before that starting with Flashpoint Paradox. Same with this new James Gunn DCU, you won’t need to see The Flash to get the DC Universe resetting and launching Superman: Legacy. You can just watch Superman: Legacy.
@@KnightOfNewColu I'll give you an example, Wally West's return in DC Rebirth, what's a reader that started reading The Flash in The New 52 supposed to take from that? Or Post-Crisis Superman fusion with New 52 Superman? They say they want new readers but they are incapable of letting go of the past. Even New 52 Batman and Green Lantern picked up right where the previous ones left off
Obviously Yes
This is literally the reason I stopped reading DC Comics.
Whatever the reboot was after infinite Crisis, I was done......
Infinite Crisis was supposed to be the last one. I remember picking up every book for the year leading up to it.
When I realized they learned nothing from the mistakes they made that forced them to reboot in the first place, I jumped ship.
I knew this was gonna be the inevitable outcome. Just more reboots every few years!
It was quite stupid of them.
Lost a life long comic reader🎉
Continuity is a prerequisite for continued readership in my opinion. It's absolutely a deal breaker for me.........
I've said this before and i'll keep saying it until they stop messing around and start make good movies. DC has too many cooks in the kitchen and they keep putting people in charge that don't know what us fans really want. Let's hope Gunn can add some stability to this universe and make a lot of people/fans happy.
My problem with reboots is that they need to make a super complicated story explaining the reboot within the universe itself, 5 months later they completely ignore the reboot and bring old versions of the characters back into more super complicated stories, the timeline is a mess, and DC is doing a reboot every 5 months these days.
My idea of a reboot is basically a hard reset every decade or a few decades.
This is exactly why I can't be bothered to keep up with the main continuity. Elseworld stories are where it's at.
I’m sorry I’m embarrassed to say it but I still don’t get which is the new continuity for now? Is it rebirth?
Nah don't worry I'm in the same boat. I believe they're in Rebirth still but they have had different ways of branding it. I think they go by "Dawn of DC" now. It's too much to keep up with.
DC should reboot and go back to basics. No multiverse mal events. I don’t even want to see the justice league, at least not yet.
I just hope they stop rebooting, stick with your story, like the post crisis era
Yes, there are too many
We dont need continuity all that matters is the quality of the stories many of dc best stories are else worlds. You all need to stop complaining you are impossible to satisfy just move forward.
All I'm doing is creating a dialogue. You don't like it, that's fine. But there's no complaining here so I don't know what video you watched. Criticism and thoughts to better a brand is not complaining, it's constructive feedback. Just because you're happy with something doesn't mean others are.
@@tyrellmultimedia Im sorry If I came across as negative that was not what I was trying to be. Im not trying to shut down any dialogue please Im sorry if I sounded like that. It's just that I have heard these types of opinions before. I just disagree strongly with some of the things people say. Again I apologize.
All good man, no worries. I hope you don't think I lashed out or anything. Internet comments are hard to gauge, it's easy to take things the wrong way or to think the worst.
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Wow!! That was fast!!
Let's finally be honest here. DC rebirth and Doomsday Clock is the worst thing to ever happen to DC comics
Makes sense because I don't think Rebirth is selling well.
@@tyrellmultimediarebirth ended years ago. Dawn of DC is what is ongoing currently and it's doing pretty well
DC rebirth and Doomsday Clock are garbage
DC no matter what media it is always has and apparently always will have a continuity problem.