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Other possibilities: Martian Manhunter vs Super Skrull Flash vs Elektro

Amazing video I think this is a good step on getting justice for my main man Gar ! when I think about it, him and Tim Drake are in a very similar situation, where, as they cannot seem to grow out of or grow up from the persona that they’ve been in for decades now.

2:06 I think they keep making him a teenager because the ONE TIME he had a solo comic and was a young adult, separated from the Titans, the comics themselves did not do well or run for very long. Which is unfortunate because he’s my favorite character and I loved those books /myself didn’t look at the numbers but because of how short lived it was it’s to be assumed that’s why it was cut so short.

Barbra Gordon should be Bruce age not a girl.

when are you going to do blue beetle

Hey I wanted to ask for your opinion on something. I came up with this idea very recently and I wanted to know how you would like a second justice league. Like one after the first team disbands. In my ideal DC universe, after the Avengers: Endgame type event, a good bit of heroes have either retired or died in the battle. So I thought it would be cool if some younger and/or inexperienced heroes made their own justice league. My ideal lineup would be Dick Grayson as Batman, Supergirl, Wally West as the flash, Kyle Reiner as green lantern, Zatanna, Blue beetle, vixen, booster gold, and Martian Manhunter. Now I know what you’re probably thinking about Martian manhunter. “Martian Manhunter isn’t inexperienced.” And I agree. But I think this team would benefit from having a more seasoned hero to guide them and help them understand the ways of their predecessors. So do you like this idea, and if you do, who would you like on this New League?

But! Dick Grayson being number one would cloud Batman judgement. Dick Grayson being number one and being the most well adjust man would make Batman think he can do it again. He can mold criminal child to be better civilian by letting them be Robin. And then, ... the unthinkable happen.

Vulture would be a perfect villain for Hawkman/Hawkgirl. Doc Ock maybe up against Green Arrow? Or maybe Beast Boy you think? No no wait I got it. Bullseye Vs. Green Arrow. Yeahhhh that works perfectly.

I disagree i like Barbra haveing her legs.

When they did that idiotic amalgam thing, I was saying *back then, switching world villians would make a WAY more interesting event!

For a change, I agree with you. She was great as babygirl but oracle was a unique character that was intricate to the DC heros . A handicap that did not diminish or stop her abilities in any way

Speaking as someone who uses a wheelchair, I always thought the fact Barbara’s disability was something that she had to struggle, but not let define her ( even after the New 52 took her out of the chair) was great. However, I never needed her to be “ just like me” for me to be able to relate to her character. Companies forget that similarity and relatability aren’t necessarily the same thing. Visibility will always be important, but it should be incorporated with strong storytelling and good characterization, not pandering or box checking

8:48 I think they mean that realistically, within ten minutes one of those characters could have helped heal her. She might have been paralyzed, but she would have been fixed up within ten minutes because there are so many options. I really like the idea of Barbara temporarily possessing a lantern ring, which would temporarily help her mobility. But when the arc is done, she goes back to being her Oracle persona. This would give us, and Barbara, something a goodbye to her pre-paralysis state, without disservicing the fact that most real paralyzed people won't be able to walk again.

That would be a cool idea for Barbara Gordon to run for mayor but her history of vigilantism will make her ineligible 😢

People forget that originally she was paired with Batman. She was a Congresswoman , making her older than Dick. A relationship with Dick makes a "cougar" now that's disgusting.

Crazy you used the Arkham example of Oracle, because when I was commenting that’s the exact “guy in the chair” vibes I was thinking of. I feel Oracle just works better when she feels needed as opposed to conveniently present.

Yes he should!! The League wouldn’t be shit without him and would ALL be dead!!! Batman is the one that DOESN’T belong in the Justice League. Batman is the REAL detriment to the League!!

Amazing video, i just subscribed today after discovering your amazing channel, would love to see you complete the teen titans and do Cybrog and Starfire as the two next hot takes videos

Stephanie Brown should've been the Batgirl of the New 52. Okay, I get this isn't a Barbara Gordon hot take but whatever. It's always remembered by people who know Stephanie Brown that Stephanie was Robin for a time, but I barely EVER see people acknowledge that she was Batgirl which is a shame because she was GREAT as the character. That Batgirl series was one of the better series DC had in the late 2000s, a time when DC was basically falling apart at the seams, and here we had just a really charming series with Stephanie as Batgirl. It started with her having to earn that title as Barbara didn't fully approve but she saw how similar Stephanie actually was to her and finally approved, letting Stephanie thrive in a role that really fit her only for it to be wiped by the New 52 in order to bring Barbara back in the role. What really sucks is that by the mid 2010s, Barbara seemed to start developing a lot of Stephanie Brown traits, specifically in Batgirl of Burnside, and that story would've been a great story for Stephanie but with Barbara it just didn't feel right. Imagine just how popular Steph could've been if the New 52 just let her stay as Batgirl, a series showing what makes her a hero, showing her vulnerabilities, her sense of humor, her understanding of her own failings, her ability to openly accept help from others, and watching her evolve into the best hero she can be. A bunch of these traits were already shown off in her own Batgirl series but we needed so much more of it. Justice for Stephanie. Another hot take that is a little more Barbara centric is that DC should change how Killing Joke happened. Yes, it would change continuity but it wouldn't be the first time DC messed with continuity. The thing that made Barbara's crippling in Killing Joke so terrible is that Barbara was completely unimportant in that story, she was nothing more than just a pawn in Joker's goal of trying to turn Gordon insane. There's actually an easy way to change this, just make Barbara more involved in the story. Perhaps Gordon gets taken like in Killing Joke, Barbara finds out and helps Batman track down the Joker as Batgirl. When Joker's plan fails, he considers Gordon no fun and goes to shoot him to which Barbara responds by jumping in front of the bullet to save her father. Congrats, now Barbara has some agency in her story. Also, this may be a hot take to some, but let Dick and Barbara get married finally. It sucks that the only reason DC allowed Dick to propose is because they thought they were going to kill Dick in Infinite Crisis, but because they didn't end up doing that, they just cancelled the engagement altogether and only looked back once when the let Pre-Flashpoint Dick and Barbara get married in Convergence but never brought that into mainline like they did with Jon Kent.

Personally, i think more just the symbiotes vs the green lantern core as a whole, as the symbiotes as a species can often be associated with a hive mind type of species, so hive mind army vs free WILL army would be interesting imo

As someone who started reading Comics in 1964, Barbara was, and always will be Batgirl. I always liked her romance with Dick Greyson and I always liked her friendship with Supergirl! That's what I grew up with!

This is very minor and has more to do with her character design, but I’ve never really liked how her mask looks. Search up an image of the batfamily together and you’ll see a lot of domino masks and white eyes. Then you look a batgirl and it’s like, why are her eyes exposed? Where’s her white eyes? It breaks my immersion every time I see it. It’s not the biggest thing in the world, but why is it so common. I do understand live action or something like the Arkham games though, but that’s self explanatory. And on a grander note, why wouldn’t an artist take the opportunity to make it easier for themselves and just draw the white eyes. Is there something I’m missing or…? The Batman cartoon and Batman v TMNT gave her the white eyes and they were flawless imo

I have a huge issue with Bruce and Babs, in the Batman beyond tie-in comic, They would never do that to Grayson. It's just so out of character for both of them!

As i said in the post, another problem with Babs is her rogue's gallery. Yeah this thing could be said for basically all Bat-family members with the exception of Batman and (just a bit for) Nightwing but Babs' nemesis is Killer Moth...really? Of all B-list Batman villains she got THE joke villain of Batman's rogue's gallery. P.S. i remember Barbara tried to run for mayor, it was back in the Bronze Age and i remember it cause it was Steve Englehart's last Batman comic where he used Doctor Phosphorus

Unpopular opinion/hottakes: Stephanie Brown, Jon Kent, and/or Roy Harper.

REALLY controversial opinion from me is, she shouldn't be a member of the Batfamily. She should be Black Canary's girl in the Chair for the Birds of Prey team IN A OTHER CITY. Alfred can pick up her position in Gotham for Batman. Shoot Batman can do it since he built the supercomputer and operate it at it's fullest. Batman can hack into Apocalyptian tech which is thousands of years more advanced than Earth's tech. She is unnecessary in the already bloated Batfamily.

can you make an Unpopular Opinions/Hot Takes video on Tim Drake, Black Canary or Cassandra Cain?

I don't mind her as Oracle, it's just the messy circumstances that put her in that spot. Alan Moore did Barbara dirty in Killing Joke just to add angst to Jim and Batman.

Pulling Babs out of the wheelchair and having her be Batgirl alongside Cass and Steph is just not a very good idea.

i never liked barbara gordon/batgirl it's ok if you do

Now you will never know what it originally said!

*Most times they’ve said her dad knows it’s her but acts like he doesn’t*

Tim could be an oracle type role, and Jason would fully commit to going non-lethal as long as he gets to kill Joker. A super genius and Batman's most ruthless soldier/best punching bag who isn't afraid to break a few rules (or skulls). Like Batman, an absolute menace to criminals, but a stalwart protector of the downtrodden like the poor, sick, and kids.

Magneto and Green Lantern is such a good pairing, but i feel like you need to tie in his disdain towards humans to that match-up in order to get the most out of it. For Aquaman, Attuma is a really good choice, but Namor when he is an antagonistic role is the best bet

Teen Titans vs AIM or the Serpent Society as a replacement for Hive

For some reason I can't take this character seriously. Maybe it's because of that horrible cartoon version in the early 80's. My age is ruining cartoons for me, and it make me even more upset that I didn't read more comic books while I was growing up 😔 That's it, next comic-con I"m heading in just to buy some comic books, but not the super expensive ones 🤣

Great take on these Omega Level beings! We need more Dr. Fate, but let's not do an origin story.... It's too bad we only got a taste of him in Black Adam, but he was one of the saving factors in that movie, and we need more from that character.

Here we go. Another Spider-Man “Fan” saying wild stuff. None of Spider-Man Villains can “defeat” Spider-Man. He simply holds back so they don’t die immediately. Dr. Doom would clap Superman & Juggernaut is literally unstoppable. His powers is powered by a Demon iirc.

Great JL team. I'm not that familiar with Zatanna but each time you bring her up, I'm more and more intrigued. I should try to find some of her stories and learn more about the character.

WARNING ⚠️: LONG ASS COMMENT!!! Batman shouldn't be in the Justice League as a front line fighter. If he's there purely as the strategist or sponsor then it's great, but not as a front line fighter. Because a regular human being with no superpower standing shoulder to shoulder with literal gods like Superman and Wonder woman makes no sense. A regular human being with no powers fighting monsters, aliens and gods like Darksied, and winning, makes no sense. It already pushes the limits of believability when he single handedly takes on entire criminal organisations and no one manages to get a lucky shot in the exposed part of his face. The writers really cannot decide what to do with Barman, according to statements he has no superpowers and then goes and performs superhuman feats The statements and the feats contradict Even small things like being thrown at a wall with such force that the wall collapses and not having your back broken is superhuman, and Batman has done stuff a million times more impressive. My main issue is that Batman being in the Justice League as a front line fighter undermines the Justice League and proves them to be redundant. Because if we maintain that Batman has no superpowers, then all his feats are humanly possible. If they are not humanly possible then Batman is superhuman which contradicts the lore. Even if we say only 1% of the entire human race can do what Batman does then that still leaves us with millions of people. Imagine that, a million people (this is a estimate, it's probably a lot more) given enough training and resource can do what Batman does. Then why even bother with a small team of heroes where every single member is more or less irreplaceable, when you can have an army of replaceable men who can defeat any enemy by outsmarting them with their contingency plans? Strangely only Batman suffers from this problem because I have no problem with IronMan(another regular human) being in the Avengers and standing shoulder to shoulder with gods like Thor and Hulk. Because the moment he puts on his sifi suit he is practically superhuman and you dont need to worry about how it makes no sense for a regular human to take on gods And because of Iron Man's character it also makes sense why he doesn't create an army of IronMen. He used to sell his weapon to the military They got in the wrong hands and were used to destroy millions of lives It makes sense why there isn't an army of men with IronMan suit because Tony doesn't trust people with his weapons anymore. I know a lot of people are very passionate about this so if you think I'm wrong please go easy on me 💙

The real question is should Batman be apart of the Justice league. I’ve been thinking this for awhile now but what the toxic discourse around Batman making back up plans in case the league goes rouge and him not having powers but fighting along side these powerful heros he kinda feels out of place. Even in the DCAU he called himself a part timer. If anything I believe Batman should be removed from the league and he just stops by once in a while but he should mostly stay in Gotham. I’d even recommend that you have two leagues. Having Superman run the Justice League ( who handle space and intergalactic threats ) while Batman runs the the Justice Society and sticks to the more earth and grounded stories. For the justice league roster it would look like this: JL: 1. Superman 2. Wonder Woman 3. Flash ( Barry Allen ) 4. Green Lantern ( Hal or John ) 5. Aqua man 6. Martian manhunter 7. Green Arrow ( because he can be the moral compass but doesn’t come off as harsh as Bruce does plus he can fund the team instead of Batman) JS: 1. Batman 2. Dr. Fate 3. Green Lantern ( Kyle or Guy ) 4. Power Girl 5. Zatana 6. Blue Beetle 7. The flash ( Wally west )

DCAMU Raven sucked donkey ballsacks

kraven the hunter vs beast boy/vixen

Who wins, Superman v Shazam

Does magic have an additionally negative effect on Superman or is he able to be affected by magic

Every member of the Justice League belongs there. They all serve a purpose in the League.

I would go for a team that’s just straight up trying to assassinate Batman and have the best chance of taking him out for good. For me it’s: Deathstroke, Bane, Talon, Hush, Deadshot, and…Ras al Ghul, though he would likely not willingly be a part of it

I think Doom could also be a good fit for Superman simply because he's not a villain that can typically be solved by brute force, and he uses magic which is usually a weakness for Superman being one if the things that can hurt the Man of Steel. Additionally, he's dealing with the rightful ruler of a Soverign country, much like Black Atom.

Mystique would be a great Captain America villain, like a more dangerous skrull