I'm in AWE! - Dune: Part Two Reaction! [MOVIE REACTION] [FIRST TIME WATCHING]
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“this is not good. i mean i love it but, it’s not good”
sums it up perfectly
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Means Dennis did it.
Magnificent bastard did it.
One of the first and only reactors to "get it" - it was not a moment to cheer - and yes, he was sending them to their death - only Chani was trying to save her people (in the movie).
Well isn’t it also the only path for the Fremen to survive too? He definitely wants to save them.
@@-6ix559actually no. Remember that the Harkonnens mostly didn’t even know how many fremen existed. They didn’t think anybody was even in the south of the planet.
The fremen had a very long term plan to terraform Arrakis, that’s why they were collecting all that water. Kynes’ father had calculated the amount of water they would need, and they have been patiently and carefully collecting the water ever since. Paul has completely derailed the plan.
@@wackyvorlonThe Harkonnens have been working on exterminating all of them though. I feel like the Harkonnens would have ramped up the aggression with or without the Maud’Dib being a factor and would have continued to hunt the Freman for the rest of time.
@@-6ix559 Yeah as someone who didn't read the books none of this stuff is explained I understand Galactic jihad = bad but the events presented in the movie it was LITERALLY the ONLY way.
And as far as the books are concerned this is the ONLY way to SAVE ALL of humanity.
@@wackyvorlon its actually rlly is the only way (in the books at least) to save all of humanity
''A war in my name! Everybody shouting my name!''
Lisan al-Gaib!
As written!
The Water of Life is basically hyper concentrated spice. Toxic to anyone who isn’t trained to nullify the toxic effect. In women it opens up female ancestral memories. In Paul, as the first male to survive, it basically makes him a male Bene Gesserit, able to access memories of both male and female ancestors. But as the Kwisatz Haderach bred by the Bene Gesserit, it also gives him perfect prescience to see all possible futures and outcomes.
Paul isn't the Kwisatz Haderach though, not really. You don't find out who it actually is until way later in the series.
@@spooks4771Yes, he is. This title also passes on to the other that you’re talking about. Paul is just the first in line.
@@spooks4771there’s only 2 true kwisatz haderach and paul is the first one.
male ancestors? Isn't he the first?
@@theredeemer1644 He means just ancestors in general, they didn't have to have powers. It's basically just genetic memory
''no shields!'' in the universe of dune, a laser gun firing a shield can make an atomic reaction (called the holtzmann effect) basically killing both, and bacause shields in the deep desert can attract worms and make them frenzy.
That’s why they wait until the shielded ornithopter has been taken out before using the lasguns against the spice harvester. Any risk of hitting a shield is too much.
The atomic reaction isn’t called the Holtzman Effect (HE), the shields are just possible technology because of the HE.
“The Effect allowed the creation of a shielding that repelled most methods of fast moving projectiles, but allowed slower moving objects, such as hand-held knives, to pass through. This changed the nature of warfare - conventional projectile weapons became mostly useless and laser weapons became incredibly dangerous, forcing humanity to return to the use of hand-weapons.”
Derek, this reaction was SO satisfying, damn.
It's clear you paid attention all the way through, from the first movie, and you also got so many of the nuances right away that many of us only got on repeat watches or by discussing them on twitter.
And some of those drawn-out sighs/headshakes in certain scenes where you can't even use words, you're just overwhelmed by the sheer scale of it all... that's my exact reaction every time.
For a reaction, this was genuinely incredible satisfying.
I can't express how grateful I am that you kept the whole Arrival scene. Thank you soo much, truly
One of the only reactors so far that I feel like while they are enjoying how awesome it is to see Paul go down this path, they still understand it ain’t a good thing.. it really is so badass but so conflicting. Kudos
Yes! Seems to go over other reactors head
Masterpiece! Denis is a genius.
With this movie, he has joined the pantheon of greatest sci-fi directors.
The reality is that Paul Atreides is not the good guy. Dune was written as a warning about the danger of messianic figures.
yup. he's just one of those important/pivotal historical figures. As for for "good" vs "bad" - that depends on the victors right? In a way he is a victim too because he just can't figure out how to escape his destiny. Every single possible decision seems to lead to a bad outcome. I guess you've read the books like I have.... they deal very heavily with the mental aspects of predicting the future and the inevitable madness that would create. I'm just glad some of those themes stayed intact in the film and it wasn't just another Hollywood blockbuster.
I disagree. Paul is a good guy. The power he was given is the bad thing... He saw what he saw. Took, what he thought was the best way to make things work. The fact that he made mistakes was inevitable. He is Human. But he saw the other possible futures too. And had to choose the best of the bad. Yes, The whole concept of......"The One" is what Herbert was warning us about. But the man who was Paul, really was a good man. Like his father.
@@donny1960 question is who is this path best for...
@@donny1960 Glad someone actually read the book instead of giving the generic bandwagon opinion of 'Paul is actually a bad guy!'.
@@halfalligator6518good and bad doesn’t depend on the victors.
Of course there is no totally good vs totally bad.Historians, or anyone who records, write history. Who is victorious affects punishments, the spread of histories and common sentiment after a war etc but it doesn’t changed what happened and as long as information was recorded in some way information will come out.
Nothing is completely black and white so nothing is totally good or bad. . Often people that repeat “history is written by thr victors” sentiment (not you necessarily) take it to such an extent that that those that humanity sees as evil are only seen as evil because they were not victorious(when that applies) and that is basically a complete vacuum…
“Who were the good guys in this (thing)?”
“History is written by the victors”
It’s basically saying “impossible to judge anything and it’s complicated so I give up.” And it’s stops there.
It’s seem deep but it’s shallow, imo.
Not trying to start an argument I realize this is off the topic of Dune Part Two.
Have a nice day
You chose my way to describe it: Stilgar goes full LIFE OF BRIAN on Paul. And yes, Feyd has picadors on his team and the infrared is fun. Bring on part 3.
I am incredibly excited to watch the next movie. It’s going to be incredibly hard, Dune Messiah has a *really* complicated plot. I can’t wait to see how Villeneuve manages it.
Hearing you explain how you felt after the end of the movie...as a massive, long-time book fan, I'm so happy, and Dennis Villeneuve made us so proud 💖💖
"Lead them to paradise" ... such a powerful line. How it's delivered, the music, the mixed emotions - what the right way feel in that moment? It's definitely not good, but we were all rooting for it... until it hits. Maybe it was better if Paul died there, somehow. What an amazing piece of cinema.
It was inescapable. Even if he had died, his ‘martyrdom’ would have caused things to be much, much worse. He’s basically navigating the best of a bad thing.
@@Obosii I always wonder, what would've happened if the plan to end house Atreides had worked. Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen's daughter would've been the mother to Kwisatz Haderach, who also would need to gain control of Fremen on Arrakis. I'm fully alternate timeline speculating here, but I'm guessing Baron's bid for the throne would've failed in the process great houses learn Emperor's betrayal and dethrone Shaddam Corrino IV, Harkonnens getting it. This would throw the great houses into chaos and I doubt that Baron would've fared well. Perhaps Lady Fenring and her daughter would've left outcast on Arrakis, allowing more natural rise for Lisan al Gaib, giving the Bene Gesserit better opportunity to control him.
Nonetheless horrific option for the peoples everywhere on the galaxy as well. When House Atreides was attacked on Arrakis, the future was sealed.
@@TealJosh It's not shown in the movies, but Feyd Rautha has visions and prescience just like Paul, even if he's less powerful, and untrained in the Bene gesserit ways. The Bene Gesserit's plan was for Feyd to marry a daughter of Jessica, but Jessica disobeyed her Reverend Mother's orders to give birth only to girls and had a son (Paul) instead.
The Bene Gesserit didn't know that Jessica was Baron Harkonnen's daughter, and in their minds a wedding between Feyd Rautha and an Atreides daughter would unite Atreides and Harkonnens powerful bloodlines, ending a centuries old conflict and increasing the odds to produce a Kwitsach Haderach they can control.
@@Obosii you don't know what it would've caused. Paul chose to play along with the prophecy, he chose to sway the fundamentalists, he's navigating what's best for him
@@ObosiiHow do you know that's actually the case and not just that that's what Paul tells himself to be able to live with his decision
Watched this thrice in IMAX. Worth every penny. When Paul said “lead them to paradise” my heart sank because we know what happened next. Paul did warned everyone what will happen if he went south. Even Chani. So the holy war is kinda everyone fault.
Funnily enough, when he earlier told Chani that what he was doing was for the sake of the Fremen, he was telling the truth.
If he continued to fight in the north, he would have likely have been killed (especially since his visions were not helping him anymore) and Arrakis would have been under Harkonnan tyranny once again and likely a greater yoke with Feyd as governor.
Plus, Paul's loss would have broken the faith of the Fremen would believed in the Lisan Al-Galib and they would never want to fight against their oppressors ever again.
36:37 And THAT is how you introduce a villain…
one of the best introduction!
That scene in the temple is the scene of the year.
That "silence" and "Duke of Arrakis" hits hard
The guys with the weird hats in the Harkonnen arena are, roughly, Banderilleros, like those who assist the Matador in a bullfight.
I thought they were analogous to picadors?
Maybe, @rikk319. I had to Google, as I couldn't remember the title. You may be more accurate than my search.
@@Ontir it's been a long time since I had friends from Spain who told me the various people in a bullfight.
The Paul/Chani love theme is one of my favorite things Hans Zimmer has ever created😭 It's so beautiful yet tragic.
Thank you, Derek! 🪱 You're correct. What might seem like victory to some eyes will also be filled with so much suffering. Some stories are so like life, in that regard.
11:49 A decaliter is 10 liters. So, 38 million decaliters is 380 million liters. Or 10038539 US gallons.
I think the gallons number should be multiplied by ten.
An adult human body has on average 35 to 42 liters of water. A decaliter is 10 liters. So Sietch Tabr’s tank has the equivalent of roughly 10 million humans worth of water, and there are thousands of such tanks. That’s a lot of lives!
I'm a simple person, I'm glad the metric system survived 20 thousand years.
You really get it. Paul achieving his goal of revenge is a big problem. It’s a beautiful story, but you are correct that the end is not happy.
Paul wasn’t really reading or seeing the soldiers past/mind, he merely was repeating a future conversation so he knew exactly what to say to convince them all, as well as using the voice subliminally
Bingo. He saw the future and just repeated back what he saw
7:05 During the Spice Harvesting inspection scene in part 1, Paul asks “why not shield the crawlers,” to which Liet-Kynes answers that shields are a death sentence on Arrakis because they attract worms and drive them into a killing frenzy.
Yeah but if they on the rock then the worms can't get them
@@SleepyWafflesThe real reason is one that the movies never explain. If someone shoots a lasgun and it collides with a shield, it creates an explosion on the level of an atomic bomb, either at the shield, the gun, or both. For that reason they must always be very careful shooting a lasgun if there’s a possibility of a shield being active.
So the guy was basically saying “Don’t turn on your shields, we’re using lasguns and it’s not worth the risk of accidentally blowing us all up.”
@@Dustin314 I think with nukes as well right? This is why they nuked the ground instead of them directly. Although, I suppose they needed the emperor alive.
So happy that part lll is being written as speak. But man the next 3-4 years until it comes out are going to be excruciating
I really need to reread the book, it has been nearly 30 years.
Brave sir Rabban ran away!
Bravely ran away away
Oh brave sir Rabban!
This fits too well lmao
I don't mean this as a "watch it in the cinema!" type of comment, but I've seen it in a couple different theaters as well as last night from PC with ear-surrounding headphones. Althought my headphones have a decent bass, many of the sound effects, especially some of the "voice" moments sounded completely different than in the theaters. Like some layer of sound was completely missing.
Also, the moment when the blue stuff is flooding in Jessica's womb and we get that low BRRRR sound indicating something dramatic, powerful and previously-unheard-of is happening - in IMAX (well, a fake IMAX but anyway) - the sound literally vibrates your body. It's so different than watching it at home. So it's definitely two-three steps above in the epicness when you see it in a proper cinema. But a great film to view at home also, it was actually nice for a change to see it at home alone with headphones.
Yes! As an AMC A-List member, I watched it in IMAX at three different theaters 8 times in total (fake IMAX). And, I checked the digital copy released this week. It is a different experience. For a movie like this where sound effects and music play a huge role, it makes a huge difference. The biggest differences are the Voice sound effects, Jessica Water of Life spreading scene, and Paul’s Resurrection moment.
1:17:21 - I like the tone of voice Mohaim has when addressing Jessica as Reverend Mother. Not as a former student, not as a fellow sister, but as a rival.
Absolutely fantastic reaction. Thank you so much for sharing, especially the end thoughts. Great job. Definitely subscribing and digging deeper into your stuff.
1:18:08 - “My friend…she bows to no one.” 😂
Remember from the first movie they don't use shields on the ground because they attract the worms.
Yeah but they on rock. Other people have explained the actual reason why they said no shields
Fantastic reaction. I loved watching how much you loved watching the film and you fully understood that it’s a cautionary tale.
Imagine seeing this at a great imax screen and its your first cinema experience, I envy those people.
I read Dune many times in high school back in the 80's and as a kid I always thought Paul was the hero of the story but now as an adult, I totally see how this is the origin story of Paul as the villain. I agree this movie is amazing and I really loved your reaction, thanks for doing it for us. I really hope we get a third movie from him and I just bought the next two Dune books so I can see where we are going next.
I thought of that exact Life Of Brian line when i was in the movie theater!
No shield : lasguns and shields (shields use the Holtzman effect in the books) are instable if in contact, a nuclear explosion occurs. That's a fact in in the Dune universe.
the hand of god be my witness....that line on the big screen had me lose a tear it was a perfect line for the moment.
Apparently the Harkonens’ sun absorbs light and that’s why there’s no color when they’re outside
I don't think many other reactions have addressed Paul's heel turn, as you called it. I mean, he never had many options, and of those most were bad options. But when he decided to go down the path, he really owned it. And I guess we'll see the consequences in Dune 3. But so many people were just cheering on the hero after he decided to walk a darker path.
I loved your reaction / commentary!
Omg i just wish i could see this movie for the 1st time again, it's just so good, i love it, thanks for the reaction
This was such an experience in the theater. Obviously you’ve seen it now, but if you get the chance to see it in the theater, I still think it’s very worth it.
The visuals are breathtaking. An image I always think back to is the overhead shot of Paul walking amongst the thousands of Fremen & how they surround him. The way that scene must be inspired by images of the pilgrimages to Mecca is beautiful but also very scary when you remember Paul is at the center.
It’s such a compelling but also familiar story.
I felt heartbroken for Chani, but also Paul - how much of his path was predetermined vs freewill?
And I can’t leave off without saying how amazing both Chalamet & Ferguson’s performances were. *chef’s kiss
“My name is Jeff” lmaoo
Thank you for this. The burning question in this magnificent film is: : Is Paul Muad'Dib Atreides a complex hero or is he a dangerous villain? And the answer to that question is: YES! Alexandre Solzhenitsyn the great Russian writer once wrote: "If only we could clearly identify evil wherever it exists, then destroy it; but the line between good and evil runs through the heart of every single human being, and who can destroy himself." Thank you for your reaction and thank you Denis Villeneuve and this fabulous cast for giving us such a rich complex deeply human story brought to life on the screen And thank you for your genius Frank Herbert!
Best Sci-Fi film in 20 years
That’s what I thought as well. Best movie since the Lord of the Rings trilogy came out 20 years ago.
1:43:00 Paul and Jessica are not necessarily "evil". As Irulan points out in the book in her quotes, "Muad'dib is a complex figure which is beyond simplistic 'good' and 'bad' "
There are many problems ingrained into prescience and Other Memories.
One of them is that emotions have a possibility to traumatize us. Memories are bottled emotions. As Jessica points out, it's generations of joy and pain and sorrow and pleasure crushing down on you. It is very dangerous.
This is why Stilgar's old Reverend Mother was so distressed by realizing that Jessica was pregnant. The process is harrowing for an adult, not every acolyte is capable to survive even if perfectly trained. Bene Gesserit "pain test" is *in part* to confirm that a person has high chances of handling such pain and can retain control. This is great power, so a person wielding it should have great self-control.
Children - and especially unborn children - have their personalities not fully formed, and being "pre-born", gaining such a level of conscience early on can horribly break a kid forever. Thus, BG doctrines directly forbid giving Water of Life to kids and pregnant women. They probably learned it the hard way.
Ultimately, a person wielding Other Memories has access to a massive pool of knowledge and experience - meaning that their understanding of human morality is more complex. They often think about long-term consequences more than about the momentary ones. Paul caughts a glimpse of it when he foresees the Holy War - it's his moment of "make me unsee the consequences". He yearns for a simpler life, a life he can no longer enjoy. "A sleeper has awakened".
But even if he sees possible futures, he can't "share" his pain and responsibilities, and he can't prevent certain things because of religious fanaticism. He can try to steer it in the "less destructive way" (which is what he ultimately tries to do), but it's still choosing between bad and worse, and he has personal drama with Chani on his hands on top of that.
Manipulating people to do what you feel is "less harmful" can be challenging.
Teaching people to become immune to manipulation en masse is an insanely difficult task.
Personally, the saddest part of this movie is Stilgar.
"Once they were friends, now they are followers."
In the book: "I gained a great warrior but lost a great friend."
I think most people can see, at the early half he was quite doubtful and, like a long lost uncle, wanted to see his nephew through.
His "as written" lines might be funny but the last one hit, it's not some sort of convincing, emotional revelation. He's a fervent religious warrior who's blinded by his faith and his entire personality is gone.
The last shot of him is literally us seeing him off.
Really good reaction, pays attention with undistracted presence and not over the top with unnecessary commentary. Enjoyed your Avatar 2 as well
One of the few reactors who understood it. You saw the beauty and the horror that is Paul's story.
The books (to my knowledge, having only read the first three), never really explain how the Fremen get off sandworms, except that the worms will eventually get exhausted after a few hours / couple hundred kilometers, at which point they'll stop and sit on the desert floor until the hooks are released out of their scales. They don't like sand getting underneath their scales, which is how the rider is able to somewhat control them. At 27:50 Paul is lifting up a scale, exposing the underside to sand. This causes the worm to roll over as it tries to prevent the sand from getting in there. That's what the scene at 27:56 is trying to depict. When the worm rolls, the rider (who typically hooks the worm from the side) is pulled up on top of it. The worm is then able to be "steered" somewhat by the same method. The hookman will open gaps on one side of the worm, prompting it to roll away from the gap. My understanding is you're then stuck on it until it grows exhausted, which may be a while. But it will eventually stop, and when it does it sits on the desert floor until the hooks are released, because it's not going to want to burrow back into the sand with the underside of its scales exposed.
Thanks for finally mentionining Anakin, who was of course inspired by Paul. And is hanging on your wall the whole time! Hmmm, you said it, a story about a bunch of rebels rising up against a corrupt empire.
You get it. Paul’s success is the world’s pain.
It's 10x better watching it in IMAX!
I really enjoyed your reactions and analysis. It's sad to see that many people fail to understand that this story is a tragedy of galactic proportions. Paul is now the messianic leader of a large number of religious fanatics with nuclear firepower. Hey, what can go wrong?
Worst thing is that Paul knows that he will turn into everything he despises, a dictator and a mass murderer. It will destroy him from the inside.
And when you think of it, everything happened because of...love! Lady Jessica disobeyed her Reverend Mother's orders to have only daughters, and gave birth to a son out of her love for Duke Leto. The result was the expected all powerful male Bene Gesserit that the Sisterhood wished to produce through generations of genetic selection...but it turned out that Paul was uncontrollable.
Now winter is coming. ☢
38 million decaliters is 380 million liters, or about 100,385,000 gallons. So yeah, it's a lot. Over 200 Olympic swimming pools.
Also, everything about this movie is just one long chef's kiss. I love it beyond reason.
9.05million adult human bodies worth of water
I love that you have dueling emotions. You should. Denis did his job well.
The analysis after the reaction was spot on!
No matter how many great scifi and fantasy classics there are, whatever they accomplished, Dune did it first. The only thing that bummed me about them were that they didn't film anything in the Oregon Dunes which greatly inspired Frank Herbert.
Well, no. Read about Edmond Hamilton, Jack Williamson, and especially, E.E. "Doc" Smith.
Every time i watch this film, the part where he's asked what his orders are at the end and solemnly responds, "Lead them to paradise," gives me goosebumps, every single time! Such a brilliant film, im not a fan of either Timothee or Zendaya, (especially Zendaya), and didn't expect either to be as phenomenal as they were in this. I still think Zendaya was a huge miscast, her voice just sounds like a typical American teenager in every role she's in, including this, and doesn't make sense when literally EVERY SINGLE OTHER FREMEN has some sort of accent to them, (not just Stilgar). I mean heck - her friend had one! It just doesn't make sense whatsoever. That said, she still delivered a great performance and was way better than i expected. But yeah, Timothee and Auston stole the show imo.
Wow a rare reactor who actually understands this movie lmao
Everyone seems to miss the fact that Paul saw all futures. He chose the one that worked. Not just for revenge of his Father. But for the survival of all Humanity. The next few books will explain why Paul had to do what he did. What he did was infinitely "good". If he did not choose this path, the "Golden Path". All of humanity would be extinguished. The hints were there all along. Paul fought up until the last moment to try and prevent what happened from happening. But he really had no choice. It was a "Holy War". Or literally nothing left to fight for.
Best reaction so far, you get the most out of it
Not just the reverend mothers, Paul also has all his Male ancestors memories.
Objectively bad. Correct. And yet… so seductive. We feel the empowerment and mystique of Paul's rise to power, while simultaneously fearing it. Which is the entire point of Frank Herbert's work. Beware of charismatic leaders.
Excellent review! Exactly how I saw it. You can empathize with Paul while seeing what he's doing is objectively wrong
Revenge always ends up harming more people than what is just
Imagine not seeing this in IMAX
*Paul takes a dump in the Dune*
Stilgar - *"LISAN AL GAIB!"*
I’m the books at this point in time when feyd rautha and Paul fight, Paul is on so much of a different level that they had to nerf him for this fight in the movie to make it interesting 😂
Can’t use shields in the open desert. They draw worms.
Can't use shields with lasers either cause of the reaction. And I think with nukes as well which is why they aimed the nukes at the ground to have debris hit them instead of nuking them directly.
The novel Dune was so long vs the novel Messiah was so short, the next film will be a combination of Messiah and Children.
Loved your reaction as always. You should watch society of the snow. It's a great movie and I would love to hear what you have to say about that one
It's a must see in Imax!!
Dude, excellent reaction and outstanding post-video discussion. I highly recommend reading the next few books, at least up to “God Emperor Of Dune.” The choice Paul is faced with in this film is more complex than is readily apparent. There are consequences that are only hinted at. Subsequent books lay out what the real choice actually is, and what is actually at stake.
You get it.
That's all I have to say to you.
;)
Dune part 1: the sandworms get upto 400 meters (0.25 ish mile) long
Dune part 2: Paul calls a 2400+ meter (1.5+ mile) long "Grandfather" worm
Me: there's around 12000 adult sandworms on the planet, with 10% of them, around 1200, being "Grandfathers", AkA BIG ASS WORMS!
Sometimes those film books get facts wrong like fremen are unreliable lol
@@Akaeus the one saying it, didnt know the Fremen very well...
Chani point wasn't a fremen lead the fremen. Chani point was that the prophecy is rediculous, she did not believe in the Lisan al-Gaib or the chosen one thing.
I loved this reaction! The only question I have left is how did you feel about timothees performance? You left him out
Oh man I just saw Part 2 at the theater TODAY. God It's such a fucking incredible movie. I watched part 1 for the first time while also trying shrooms for the first time... this april first. I've watched it 12 more times since then, 20 days later.... aaaaannnnd I'm probably gonna watch it again tonight. Honestly... Theater is the best way to watch these movies.
Man the 1984 movie ruined my childhood so badly. So much of it I've forced out of my memory... I never realized how much weight they put on a fuckin 15 year old. Like... That shit is HEAVY. Though I'm surprised they killed the Baron... Because Alia kills him in the 1984 movie. There is a LOT different between the 2, and I don't know which one to believe
God Zendaya can say so much with her expression, without needing to say a thing. The pain and betrayal... just so very apparent. How can one NOT love her?
Thing is he’s not actually the chosen one. Paul was an accident and was born too early to be the true chosen one. He is a false prophet.
No matter if the plan had been successful or not, the mahdi is a false prophet set up by the bene gesirit. Paul, genetically, is exactly what the bene gesirit wanted even if he was a generation premature, the only “problem” is that he is out of their control
"It is objectively a bad thing." Exactly.
Just in case nobody has mentioned it, you get off a sand worm by using a base-jumping type parachute.
No shields during the scene where they're all getting sniped off that rock because any laser that contacts a shield would have killed all of them anyway
I love the splice from The Life of Brian 16:20
He is not the Mahdi! He is a very naughty boy, now bugger off!
The thing I always wonder... is there an alternative path? Is he really forced along this path by his desire for revenge? By his protectiveness over Chani and Dune? Is there a narrow path forward that doesn't involve killing half of the universe, if there was a different goal? Or is he trapped by his narrow definition of who his enemies are?
There is a very grand scale story going on here that only Paul can see at this point. The was the ONLY way forward, and it's heartbreaking for that reason.
The bene geserit and reverend mothers are the same type of people essentially and can only see the past.
The bene geserit planted seeds of a messiah so that they can take control of the space and control humankind. Paul was born an offspring too soon because jessica wanted a son for Duke leto.
When Paul bene geserit instilled ways (from his mother and being an offspring) are enhanced by spice little by little he sees different glimpses of the future. But they sometimes turn out wrong. Happens in both movies. Then once he drinks the water of life he unlocks all the bene geserit memories and as well can see the future in totality thus making him the kwisatz haderach, but one that the bene geserit order cannot control (cuz jessica had him disobediently). Essentially he uses the fremen for his revenge all while knowing it will lead to a holy war because he can't have his cake and eat it to, and he is ultimately out of control of what is to come.
Moral of the story? Revenge is not the answer, don't use people for your own gain, sometimes you have to accept the circumstances, and for people to wary of charismatic leaders.
The next movie Dune Messiah will show this clearly.
After taking out the Atreides, the Harkonens are full steam ahead on exterminating the Freman. If Paul does nothing they'll get wiped out. For movie-only viewers, he is the hero at the end.
My favourite reaction on TH-cam
The only problem i have with the chani ending is in the book they have a very loving relationship and bore 3 children along the way
The Water of Life essentially gave Paul's sister all of the past memories and experiences of the female Reverend Mothers, just like it did to Jessica
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Poor Chani. BUT, at the end of the book, lady Jessica pulls Chani aside and tells her “history will remember us as wives” she explains Ireland, who is technically Paul’s wife, will never feel tenderness or love from Paul, and she will live as “less than a concubine”. Meanwhile the ones who the great leaders, Leto I and Paul, loved in reality were the unofficial wives.
Your read on the ending is very much in line with what is intended. We are not meant to see this as a happy ending. Paul is the protagonist, but his story is not a heroic one.
The Fremen go and conquer the universe, he isn't leading them to their deaths..
38 million decalitres is - by my maths - 100,400,000 gallons. Ish.
And there are an undisclosed number of those catchments scattered across the planet and sietch's.
1:31:30 You don't need to like dictators to recognize a good story about them.
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11:52 A decalitre is ten litres.
and then she said "abomination", silently
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