e-Bike With Generator

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  • Been working on my ebike again and finally got my generator mounted on it. I've had the generator setup on the Bob Ibex trailer for some time with a custom bike rack I built for that trailer. Worked real well, but the trailer had to have a bigger 26" wheel so that rack is history. Had a takeoff Topeak rack that took a bit of modification, but I put that on the Bob trailer with the new 26" wheel setup I built. Had to make a slide-in mount for the generator to bolt to so I could slide it all on the Topeak rack. Finished that awhile back, but came to a place where I wanted to ride further without a trailer in tow. The obvious solution for me was to make a rack conversion for my bikes Thule rack setup. Came up with an idea and it seems to work well enough, but I am a bit concerned over the 23 lbs. the generator puts on that rack. It is suppose to carry up to 55 lbs. but still it is a bit concerning to me. Anyways, it's pretty much finished I think. Might do a bit of changes, but then it will be sandblasted and painted and be done. Shot a cellphone video the other day, so I thought I put it up here for the few people who have ask about using a generator mounted to their bike for extended treks. Aside for a bit of noise, it seems to work well and on my setup if I can manage to keep speeds on level ground below 18 MPH or so, it keeps the battery about level with it's charge. What that means to me is, I can now ride as far as I please and will most likely not have to stop to charge, as the charging is ongoing while I pedal. Nice! Here's the 5 minute video with me rattling on forever. Just take a FF speed look if you get too board, HA!

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  • @mariourbieta5705
    @mariourbieta5705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It's a tribryd. This is great , nice work

  • @briannugent5518
    @briannugent5518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Around 2017, I experimented with a very similar model genset on a previous recumbent bike build with 26" wheels and got much the same results as Rodger did. On a 60 mile ride I precisely measured the gas and set my speed to maintain as near a constant battery voltage between start and finish. I calculated consumption to be about 170-200 mpg and as with Rodger, I matched my motor power draw to be less than the charger's 300W supply. The recumbent advantage probably gave me a extra 2 or 3 mph as I recall sticking to about 20mph with some long hills. The problem was the same as Rodger's bike, that the 21 lb weight over the rear will felt unstable. On other recumbent builds I use Golden Eagle 37cc 4 stroke engine kit with a single stage drive belt to a 22" dia drive ring snapped onto the rear wheel's spokes. This also gets 200mpg but for ave speed of 26mph with 25% ride being hills. If the genset powered a 600W charger and if the e-bike motor assist could be de-restricted then it too could give a similar ave speed of ~26mph though the mpg would likely drop. The mechanical drive is more efficient but gliding down steep hills >30mph causes the belt tension-er vibrates a lot when the belt is driven by the wheel. The quick fix is to temporarily remove the belt from the drive ring but really there needs to be a freewheel or sprag clutch integrated into the drive ring. The genset does give some nice advantages, 1) the ease of taking it off for short rides or reclaiming cargo space, 2) its 37cc engine is much better sound damped inside its case, 3) the electric ride is much smoother and quieter than with the mechanical engine drive, 4) the 12V and USB outputs. I plan to build a 52" wheelbase high roller style recumbent with the removable genset located just front of the rear wheel swing triangle because its just very compelling. Of course both forms of gas assist get lots of attention whenever I parked the bike.

  • @steveh949
    @steveh949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice job, I've just bought an E Trike (fat-tired Jorvik Odin) with a big strong basket that is lower than the rest of the bike. I put a 1kw inverter generator in the basket plugged the trikes charger into it, then I Plugged the charging lead into the battery fired it up and it works well it charges on the move, just let the battery power run down to about 60% so the battery will have room for the extra charge without overheating because of the extra distance it's now able to travel.

  • @tybrady
    @tybrady 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Awesome, I wondered if someone has done this. Unlimited mileage at 250 MPG, fantastic! Coast to coast on 12 gallons of gas. Could be a cool cheap way to tour the country without being totally tuckered out at the end of the day.

    • @jonny6758
      @jonny6758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it work

    • @slappybassflipflapflippity6955
      @slappybassflipflapflippity6955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'd still be plenty tuckered out riding this thing coast to coast. Might be able to lift it onto a bike rack on a bus here and there to get a rest and cover some uninteresting miles and then maybe. Can't take it on a train.
      You'd definitely want something more ergonomic, balanced, and comfortable like a cruiser or touring motorcycle.

  • @attributedfreedomliveit8482
    @attributedfreedomliveit8482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've pondered if I can build a setup like that and now you have proven it can work . Great thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @offgrid2010
    @offgrid2010 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought of this and i don't know of anything but a gas generator that will give you that kind of range. This opens a world of opportunities with electronics to make it happen. Fantastic.

  • @SpeedWingNET1
    @SpeedWingNET1  7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for the comments. Don't really get back to these video's much, 'spose I should though. As to range, as stated, it will go as long as I want to set on it with the generator running as long as the terrain is fairly normal. No rain can enter the generator, it's made to be used in outside rainy weather. All plastic, so really no way to get a shock unless you do not know how to plug/unplug a cord. Tribride sounds good to me. At almost a year now, I have over 11,000 miles on this bike. I try to ride at least a 100 miles a week or so. For a while I was up to 250 miles a week, but that is too much time now. I have given thought to building my own recumbent trike and incorporating an integral gas powered generator/battery system. It would be pretty heavy though, perhaps in the 100 lb. range, the way I would want to build it. Power would come from the batteries, but the generator would be tied to load sense power output needs and would start and stop as needed automatically. By designing the bike around the power system, it could be very compact still, but the generator would require at least 5 hp to keep sustained speeds upwards to 40 MPH possible in most conditions. I just have to decide if I want to spend the better part of a year in the process of designing, building and tuning it. It would be fun I believe, but I am already having a lot of fun in far to many areas, just as my wife, HA! We'll see.

    • @safiya9504
      @safiya9504 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would recommend a mid drive motor on a recumbent trike with a 20" drive wheel because I believe it would provide much more torque.

    • @safiya9504
      @safiya9504 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The recumbent trike would be slower at ascending hills, but faster at descending, and much better performing in headwinds.

    • @brandonmoreno5644
      @brandonmoreno5644 ปีที่แล้ว

      If this really works bravo man! This video proves your generator runs, that's it.

  • @s.sbless9999
    @s.sbless9999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This concept solves all of my problems, great work.

  • @imendez0809
    @imendez0809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been looking for a video like this for a long time! I had the same idea but couldn't put it together because I couldn't figure out how to send the power from the generator to the battery. Good video now I have a better idea. Thanks from New York, all the best!!!!

  • @Greg3070
    @Greg3070 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm thinking of running directly to the motor. Just need a 120 to 52volt transformer and plug to bypass the battery.

  • @SpeedWingNET1
    @SpeedWingNET1  7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Just a quick note. I have had this bike generator setup for about 10 months now and have really made use of it. Over 1,100 miles and counting on the bike and perhaps a third of that with the generator on it Everything does work and most works well, but there is a bottleneck. I can only maintain about 15 mph and must be on reasonably flat ground to charge batteries at the same rate as they discharge. It's not a really bad thing, but when I go above 50 miles in the mountains, I have had to slow way down at times to allow the battery to charge while still moving. It's still fun, but I would like to go more the other way, say about 20 mph or so, instead of slowing down to about 8 mph for a half-hour or so every 25 to 50 or so miles on mountain roads. Car drivers are not really very happy about that either I suppose.
    So, changes are on the way, literally.
    I can supply up to 900 watts of power, 800 watts continuously from my generator. But, with this setup, I can only use 350 to 400 watts or so to the charger. It has an output of 300 watts max. The best way I can use more of the watts from the generator, is to add an additional DC power supply and use that to augment my battery power. With that intent, I have ordered a 600 watt @ 60 VDC power supply. It will simply plug into the generator's 115 VAC output and use whatever leftover watts the generator can give it. I realize there will be variables I'll have to address, but having a background in electronics from my service years and hobbies, I think I will be able to figure a good, clean way to do this.
    When it is all finished, what I should have is an additional 200+ watts @ 60 VDC always available to the controller/motor. On flat ground that will give me another 8 MPH at minimum and much more help climbing those mountains. I'm also considering alternate ways to mount the generator as I would like to use the back rack for my slide-on bike bag. Thinking of a new trailer design to hold the generator low and close to the rear wheel. I have the BOB trailer already with a slide mount on top the rear wheel, but it's too much weight too high for every riding/road condition. A low mount for the generator on a short 16" single wheeled trailer would be much better.
    Figured I post this now and maybe some of you might like to chime in on some ideas, helps, or questions. I'll post back with some pics as I progress down the road with this idea. My first post in this thread has a youtube link to a video I short shortly after putting this generator on my bike if you care to look.
    Have fun everyone!
    -Rodger

    • @roibeard94
      @roibeard94 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Build a mini sidecar for your generator?

    • @robmanueb.
      @robmanueb. 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/KF9JnCvpa5I/w-d-xo.html I think two wheeled trailers are less prone to jacknife.

    • @davidross932
      @davidross932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rodger Marjama in some states the cops will stop you and say you need a DL because it's now a gas powered bike WHAT. Just another way to harness people who own ebikes🤔......very cool I was going to do the same but I do not need the Harassment.

    • @gunesfb1907
      @gunesfb1907 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So any news about these updates? Any new video perhaps?

    • @krispeterson1021
      @krispeterson1021 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can ya have power an elec motor like a swamp cooler motor..? Or a Baldor 3/4 hp

  • @Raylennphoenix
    @Raylennphoenix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome, this is totally the proof of concept I needed. Many thanks! I've a frame idea that's semi-recumbent, and uses the same setup you've got going here, but the pedal-action would be linear v.s circular. Should be an interesting build when ever I can find the project-space (damn city life *grumbling ensues*).

  • @edgartorres5461
    @edgartorres5461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You made my idea come to life 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 I cant legally drive but I could sure make my bike like yours

  • @murzabaev
    @murzabaev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mount the generator-invertor above the mid-drive motor where you have the battery and AC/DC converter. Modify the bike frame a bit if needed. Thus your driving stability will improve a way better. The battery and the converter you can fix in the current place of the generator. Plus I suggest you to get high efficient (way above ordinary ones) AC/DC converter (90+% efficiency and around 20A output) to safe some power for charging the battery. Keep in mind that you still need your current wall charger to charge your battery from the generator in parallel as it is CC/CV that is absolutely necessary for charging LiIon batteries. Put a switch (electronic or mechanical) so you only charge the battery pack from the generator but not to drive the power from it to the motor simultaneously. I am looking further to see your vedeos about your riding experience. Good luck!

  • @rotosperformancee-bike446
    @rotosperformancee-bike446 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the same generator and made this attempt a few years back on I-Go e-bike; need to give this another try; (this my Dr. Seuss approach)

  • @ElectricBikeCompany
    @ElectricBikeCompany 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the creativity😃

  • @Jackdogdude
    @Jackdogdude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have ordered all the gear including camping equipment. I will make a video of my testing and first 350 kms journey in early 2020. Thanks for the inspiration.

  • @dougjones4007
    @dougjones4007 ปีที่แล้ว

    This fascinates me! I live in a very hilly city! Thank you seriously considering doing this! Excellent thank you! Btw I have a 3 wheel e bike

  • @robertpolito6139
    @robertpolito6139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now you need a tent camper for the back.

  • @ferdtheterd3897
    @ferdtheterd3897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A modern day Da Vinci! I'm thinking of having a more powerful ebike with a bike trailer which could carry even a compact 5000w generator. I think the beauty of electric vehicles is not the "environmental" stuff it's how simple it is. Only need a few components and you can get it going.

  • @jasonbrown467
    @jasonbrown467 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was planning on getting a bike trailer for my ebike, and i planned on putting some batteries, maybe some solar and a small 2kw inverter generator. then tonight i dawned on my that i can mount the generator on the bike, ditch the solar and extra batteries, down size my current 3kwh lipo battery to 100wh at 72v to get up hills and use the generator to feed the controller and keep the battery topped off and ride all day. without fear of having to stop and charge. i spent a ton of money using lipo and spent another ton in fast chargers for them so i can balance charge all cells of the 3kwh in about 40 mins, if i can spread out over different breakers. but now i am thinking a small gen to power the bike then i can commute all day if i wanted or needed

    • @shoechew
      @shoechew ปีที่แล้ว

      commute all day

  • @marcelodyno7970
    @marcelodyno7970 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude thats awesome , it looks like a frankenstein bicicle , but the idea is great , good job!

  • @santalucia9383
    @santalucia9383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And, the saddle doubles as a toilet seat!

    • @AB-kg6rk
      @AB-kg6rk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅😂😅

  • @1MasterLi
    @1MasterLi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice idea, thumbs up.

  • @myscreen2urs
    @myscreen2urs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's like a powerbank for the bike.

  • @zainshahee
    @zainshahee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best bike seat to decrease the chances of men’s prostrate suffering

  • @super-sim1665
    @super-sim1665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You want to have 12 volt output from the generator and use a cheap converter to boost to 48 volts 2 amps this improves efficiency by bypass inverter. Up to 40% better.

    • @jasonbrown467
      @jasonbrown467 ปีที่แล้ว

      those 12v outputs are lower current. so iets say its 12v x 2amps=24 watts,. to boot it to 48v it would be 48v x .5amps=24 watts plus a conversion loss of about 10%. even if its 12v x 10amps that is still only 120 watts. once boosted to 48v it will be 48vx 2.5amps mins loss in the conversion process.

  • @hermanmoore9729
    @hermanmoore9729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE IT,, Been wanting to do this for decade ,,,lol,lol

  • @pennyrutter2782
    @pennyrutter2782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a dumb question, if the generator kicks out enough wattage to power the motor, then why do you need the batteries at all?
    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm new to electric motors.

    • @HamguyBacon
      @HamguyBacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The batteries power the motor, the generator powers the batteries so you get longer mileage. depending on your battery configuration it could take 3 hours to power up the batteries to full charge on a wall outlet. you can ride longer without having to stop, all you would need to do is stop at a gas station.

    • @pennyrutter2782
      @pennyrutter2782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HamguyBacon thanks so much! I understand now.

    • @jasonbrown467
      @jasonbrown467 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you set the rectifier/psu/charger to say 72v and your battery is only 72v when fully charged, the generator will charge the battery and power the bike, unless the voltage drops below the battery voltage then the battery will also be supplying power. once you get a huge hill, the controller can pull power from both the battery and the generator. and then as you get over the hills the load lessons and you are back to charging the battery and powering the controller from the generator.
      this dudes problems is that his generator is only 800 watts but his biggest issue was that his charger/psu/rectifier was only pulling 300 watts from his generator. its not really a problem but he is not utilizing all the power that the generator can make which is a waste to carry that much around and only use less than half of it, plus 300 watts is really not much.
      he should get three times the charging capability or get a smaller generator imo, and it sounds like he may have done one of these.
      oh and his motor might be able to pull 700 watts if i had to guess. so it can pull more than he can charge with one charger, so the battery basicaly will act like a buffer for hills, unless he goes full throttle all the time, which i doubt he ever does.

  • @grabitz
    @grabitz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job on the bike

  • @confusion9950
    @confusion9950 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1000% my next project 🤣😂😎😂

  • @Shadobanned4life
    @Shadobanned4life 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea !🌞

  • @kazuza9
    @kazuza9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea

  • @jessicarandall22
    @jessicarandall22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you run motor with just the generator, with no battery?

  • @MairinGoBragh
    @MairinGoBragh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The one thing I'd want to do is put a proper muffler on the exhaust, make it quieter.

  • @inigomontoya603
    @inigomontoya603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question: why do you even need a battery? If you could divide the current with a power stick, you could theoretically just hook up all the lights and other energy demanding devices that you want to plug in, including the main motor driver. I don't see the reason for the battery, since the motor can just draw directly from the generator... gasoline becomes the battery. Of course you'll need a transformer to deliver 48V to the motor... Whats the deal here?

  • @migrantes911
    @migrantes911 ปีที่แล้ว

    PUEDES USAR EL GENERADOR DIERECTO CON EL MOTOR ELECTRICO CORRIENDO Y CARGANDO TE LO DICE UN MEXICANO REYES DEL LITIUN Y TECNOLOGÍA

  • @Packmeacone
    @Packmeacone ปีที่แล้ว

    i got a three-battery setup (22 ah, 66 tottal) I'm going to charge one while i ride and use the other two about 4 hour charge time hopefully get some distance covered

    • @a-carpenter9229
      @a-carpenter9229 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We're you planning on using a generator to charge the 3rd battery while using the other two in your ebike or what plans do you have for charging the 3rd battery?

  • @MtDandy
    @MtDandy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    G'day Rodger. Thanks for the video. Nice rig. Interesting topic. I have the yak trailer and am thinking of fitting it up with a generator much the same as you have. I have the 48v 1000w bafang mid drive with a 25 amp lipo4 battery (10kg mounted in an ammo box )to the 26" MTB bikes rear rack. I found tht a custom build Heavy Duty rack was the only way i could stop the differnent racks i was purchasing, bending under the torque and braking inertia's. Do you have an 12-48v inverter in line to suit the extra voltage for the mid drive required or is the mid drive suited to other voltage. I sometimes have the battery in the trailer and i find that it seems to push me along on the bike a little easier. I reckon the generator in the trailer is the way for me. Distance is what Im after, to also do some touring. Any info welcomed. Cheers

  • @rjright7373
    @rjright7373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im thinking a lower center of gravity for the motor so squeeze it in between your legs lol. THis is the idea i been working on for years, to generate 500-1000 watts @ 48 volts and hang on!

  • @miningking70
    @miningking70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice design but time slips away! Not we have solar! Yo! Go Green!

  • @starlightpower3126
    @starlightpower3126 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool, I like it very much

  • @PenntuckytheCrag
    @PenntuckytheCrag ปีที่แล้ว

    We had lites on our bikes that ran off a roller that layed on the side of the wheel. Why can’t we have that tech to continualy charge the battery

  • @myscreen2urs
    @myscreen2urs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This seems like a much simpler way of self charging than the other methods I've seen.
    The big drawback is the size and weight of that generator.
    What's the smallest size generator that this can work with?

    • @offgrid2010
      @offgrid2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the law of physics says there aren't currently any other ways. The energy consumed cancels out the savings when all electric. But it makes you wonder what the numbers are by simply going gas only. Downside, oc, being the environment.

  • @adam_-adam
    @adam_-adam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Skip the battery and just connect the generator to power the most powerfull electric motor it can handle.

    • @super-sim1665
      @super-sim1665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would output 12 volts and not enough amps to power even a basic ebike motor

  • @domchubs5836
    @domchubs5836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really interesting. I've done a lot of research on this because of your video. It is possible to get around 180-200 mpg when you skip the battery and link a motor directly to the generator with a power supply. A 2,000 watt setup is achievable in under $1000 which would be around the same price as a battery powered one, except with significantly longer range and instant charging at gas stations. If an external 5 gallon gas tank is added it could potentially drive for a thousand miles on one fill-up.

    • @SpeedWingNET1
      @SpeedWingNET1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, did that using a AC/DC 60V, 600W converter to some extent. Wanted to keep the battery in the loop, and did not find a suitable mix. Generator to the converter works fine though.

    • @fatboy8396
      @fatboy8396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you give me a diagram how to do that

    • @fatboy8396
      @fatboy8396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got a electric bike that only last for 30 mins

    • @fatboy8396
      @fatboy8396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like your help

  • @danielblake347
    @danielblake347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you get another charger, minimal weight, could you have 2-3 batteries and charge them also....I understand you will have extra weight.... but would generator be possible....I'm deciding on either going with solar or generator

  • @Pleksilasi
    @Pleksilasi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that packaging looks pretty wild, could you perhaps relocate the battery and controll electronics above the frame and the generator inside the frame?

  • @stevez-wb1ox
    @stevez-wb1ox ปีที่แล้ว

    law of physics , says No. Never while riding. You will get negative reaction. Being still, Yes you can. Your 250 miles on gallon is stretching limit . Good luck.

  • @jonathanmichael915
    @jonathanmichael915 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking a gas motor conversion can work as a generator and get down road too. So can switch between electric and gas, had to charge and run .. Icd like to know the specs of the charge controller if possible.
    Thanks

  • @68BigSherm
    @68BigSherm 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could you leave the battery off the bike and power the mid-drive from the generator?

  • @myscreen2urs
    @myscreen2urs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, what do you mean that it charges more it's using? How many amps per hour does that thing charge at? Wouldn't that affect the life cycle of the battery?

    • @justycenarsingh901
      @justycenarsingh901 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can anyone help me to get my generator to charge my E Bike Guy battery

  • @cookiescream6627
    @cookiescream6627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really sweet 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 totally 😎 awesome

  • @ancientvacuum
    @ancientvacuum หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW

  • @miguelmendez965
    @miguelmendez965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any updates on this? Is your E-Bike battery still running well? I am looking into doing this myself with a Portable 1000W (46.4Ah, 21.6V) Power Station so I wouldn't need gasoline.

    • @gregscott1655
      @gregscott1655 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to know more about your project. Any links or info on the power station

  • @Slab_City_or_Bust
    @Slab_City_or_Bust 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am doing the same thing (trailer version), is there a controller that could emulate the battery and the generator (via controller) be hooked strait into the the bike controller? (battery bypass).
    p.s. In my case, I would need 36v, 250w. I'm not sure how the battery handles wattage.

  • @DaRush-The_Soviet_Gamer
    @DaRush-The_Soviet_Gamer ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this Dual source power supply confuse your controller? I had no idea EBIKES don't have to beOFF to charge by design. Did you hack the controller, or is there a way to attach an external power supply to any EBIKE controller?

    • @a-carpenter9229
      @a-carpenter9229 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just bought my first ebike and the battery can be taken out to charge while keeping the bike stored somewhere or there's a port in the frame to plug the charger through and into the battery while the batis still attached to the bike. Should be able to charge the bike while riding it at the same time with either a small inverter generator or a battery power station

  • @simonwilson7264
    @simonwilson7264 ปีที่แล้ว

    I an thinking of doing this

  • @sgadbawe
    @sgadbawe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pretty cool ! Any updates on this now?

  • @jpgibbs1518
    @jpgibbs1518 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, this set up.. Can you get into detail on how you set this up or what resources you used to create this? I am interested in creating an e-bike with a generator but have a limited knowledge on how this is done.. Is it just adding a generator to the charger and then having the charger connected to the battery? Any information would be great as I am a Noobie on the subject..

  • @donaldkyte4342
    @donaldkyte4342 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Roger .. I have 4 ebikes and scooters currently .. problem being range which the experience of batteries.. thinking about unlimited range with 1000w 4 stoke generator coupled with a 600w ac to dc 48 v power box to eliminate battery all together .. can this be done .. mid drive Bafang 750 motor
    Saving the cost and weight of battery ???
    Ty Don

  • @keishadholmes9796
    @keishadholmes9796 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can a gas generator charge two e-bike batteries at once even if a e-bike battery is 48v and the hub motor is 500w or a 1'000w.Do the gas generator has to be 1,000w to charge the two 500w because I might have to go with a 2,000w gas generator ?

  • @theevilben666
    @theevilben666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of generator is this? What wattage?

  • @adamm3492
    @adamm3492 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:20 "hard to steal it" I believe they could literally pedal it away 🤷‍♂

  • @benpar8120
    @benpar8120 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a pity that you don't show it in action / moving along

  • @transkryption
    @transkryption 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome I've being thing p thinking about a design for a long time.

  • @drrobotnikmeanbeanma
    @drrobotnikmeanbeanma ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it OK that have the generator running while you riding a ebike ?

  • @daddydown469
    @daddydown469 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder if it's still running

  • @neverumindnevertell2616
    @neverumindnevertell2616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have actually had this idea for a while I would like to go a few steps farther and build a coffin style sleeping compartment to pull behind my bike with not only heating but also air conditioning system with generator that could run the heat and a/c unit as well as charge the bike battery cause 50-100 miles a day travel is more than enough for me to be tuckered out but if I could build something like that it would be a dream come true I would probably just live in it and keep on the move lol lol

    • @JonathanVegas1
      @JonathanVegas1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neverumind NeverTell www.wicycle.com/products/bike-trailers/diy
      You can build your own from this kit. I've built a huge trailer from this kit.

    • @RogueReplicant
      @RogueReplicant 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have built a protoype "pop-up coffin camper trailer" which can be scaled up to meet your specs (AC, heater, etc). The dimensions are:
      LENGTH: 2.7 meters (just over 8 feet)
      WIDTH: 1 meter (just over 3 feet)
      HEIGHT (w/top down): 1 meter (just over 3 feet)
      HEIGHT (w/top up): 1.95 meters (about 6' 8")
      WEIGHT: 20 kg (about 45 lbs)
      TRAILER: 1 small wheel, suspended
      FEATURES: good ventilation, insulation, Murphy bed (10 cm thick, 90 cm wide, 1.9 meters long), mini-sink, shelving, 2 small solar panels & 2 small lithium power banks, LED tail lights & interior lighting

  • @LoLErMan13
    @LoLErMan13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about using an electric generator

  • @super-sim1665
    @super-sim1665 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1c charging is best for battery cycle life. You would be better to charge at 4 amps for a 4p battery and use the generator when riding at less than 70%

  • @Phoenix540
    @Phoenix540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check your local laws, in Canada that is illegal unless the generator is disconnected while riding.

  • @MyRedbubbleStore
    @MyRedbubbleStore 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am planning to get a 1,000 watt for my rad city e-bike battery is 750 Watt

  • @pauls5745
    @pauls5745 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I debate going with just bigger battery capacity and having the downtime for charging vs mounting a generator like this for trips. certainly the weight/balance of the bike is quite different. But using this setup, you will be pedaling a lot to assist the motor to keep your speed @ or above 18.
    compare the 25lbs of charger to 25lbs of extra battery. yes down time, but in any long journey you will be stopping to rest anyway and should be able to charge up. it would be most practical on cost to wire up your own battery of course, but I couldn't say whether this generator vs bigger batteries which is better. It's simply different way to approach the problem of extending range. not even solar charging would be better, in fact, probably worse lol. very cumbersome when laid out at a stop and no guarantees you'd have enough sun to fully charge when you wanted to.
    one advantage ebikes have over hybrids tho is that batteries can be placed quite anywhere on the bike for weight distribution, whereas that type of generator can only have 2 possible locations

    • @michaelbrinks8089
      @michaelbrinks8089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The big advantage of this setup VS a hybrid bike using a 2 stroke motorized bike kit mounted on a e-bike. Is that the generator can be easily removed. Each one has pros and cons, the motorized 2 or 4 stroke hybrid could run both the gas engine and electric motor for more power uphills or run only gas or electric. I have a 2 stroke motorized bike and wanted to buy a 1000w FWD e-bike kit when I had the money. That way it can be 2wd I plan to use the gas engine only in areas I can ride then shut the motor off and use electric in town where I don't want to make noise. There are so many options and configurations it's hard to know what's best. If I put a jackshaft kit on my motorized bike it goes from only 1 gear to using the bikes chain, rear freewheel 7 sprockets and derailleur. So you now have low gears to easily climb hills and a high gear for a top speed of 35-40 mph . I think a 3 speed hub gear and jackshaft kit would be better than a derailleur. If I have a 1000w 52V FWD and 2 stroke motorized bike with no jackshaft / single 36 tooth rear sprocket I think using both the engine and FWD boost could possibly give you a top speed of 40-45 mph which would help you keep up traffic if you needed to cross a narrow 55 mph highway bridge. I'm wanting to a build a high speed fat tire hybrid bike can hit a top speed of hopefully 45-55 MPH for a short bursts to keep up with the flow of traffic over a bridge in my area. Most of the time I'd only be cruising at 30 mph with the gas engine and 20-25 mph with the FWD electric motor...I think something like a 3000w mid drive e-bike with beefed up wheels, strong chain, large battery pack and the generator mounted to one side of a rear rack would be cool....(just thinking/typing out loud)

    • @AB-kg6rk
      @AB-kg6rk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      trailer

  • @joshgustafson4246
    @joshgustafson4246 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what kind of range do you get? do you just keep charging the battery as you ride?

    • @pauls5745
      @pauls5745 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes he can go 250 miles or more depending on terrain, but of course speeds as he mentioned are very slow when charging. there just is not enough battery capacity + what's supplied by the generator to maintain 20+mph and the bike gets very heavy if you upgrade any part of the output or capacity, so there's that...

  • @ArdiArdi-k7g
    @ArdiArdi-k7g 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Buat keranjang mcm kirim surat jadi kiri jenset kanan tempat bensin 5 liter jalan jahu enak udah.cuman kalo tahan lama mesin elektrik nya pula

  • @zomusch2677
    @zomusch2677 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why not plugging the generator directly to the bike without needing the battery

  • @ekrem06
    @ekrem06 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess this is the mechanism of nissan e power

  • @ryanthethumb
    @ryanthethumb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Briliant how much was the genertor and does it bother the battery much being as its been used while charged

  • @fistofthenorthstar9010
    @fistofthenorthstar9010 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Lol

  • @evanskylar2873
    @evanskylar2873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What generator is this one?

  • @pamelaharvey3783
    @pamelaharvey3783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you theoretically connect the generator straight to the motor?

    • @shoechew
      @shoechew ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, theoretically

    • @a-carpenter9229
      @a-carpenter9229 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You would need to change the 110-120 volts coming out of the inverter generator down to a lower voltage that the controller and motor uses. The charger that comes with ebikes already change the voltage to charge the battery which makes it easier to charge the battery while it's discharging at the same time without having a voltage converter

  • @safiya9504
    @safiya9504 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know nothing of controllers; what purpose does it serve for your bike? What make and model is it? What make and model is your generator?

  • @cesarramirez831
    @cesarramirez831 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see that someone got the same idea that i have.. at what voltage the motor is working? And what exactly is the blue box..??

    • @Habaneroholic
      @Habaneroholic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The blue box appears to be the battery charger, held to the frame with some Velcro straps. It looks like he can just unlock and easily remove the generator and charger when he wants to.

  • @kukhuve6595
    @kukhuve6595 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    any update on this? was thinking to do the same. I have a 350 watt middrive e-bike. Problem is i dont know what generator i should use. Someone told me i will get a 20% efficency loss. But since the smallest generators have like 800 continous effect im thinking it will work. Any ideas?

  • @AshGreen359
    @AshGreen359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now it's a gas powered bike

    • @WazzyCabbage
      @WazzyCabbage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nope still electric transmission ..........

    • @2NDFLB-CLERK
      @2NDFLB-CLERK ปีที่แล้ว

      ▪️
      Interesting little mini paradox going on here...
      🟥

    • @AB-kg6rk
      @AB-kg6rk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its technically a tribred😅

  • @HansKeesom
    @HansKeesom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The question that pops up in my mind is : how many miles to the nex place where you spend the night or a few hours that has a AC-outlet. Will that ever be more then 500 miles?
    Yes one can quickly fill up this generator at a gas-station, which beats charging for 4 hours for each battery that one has.
    So this setup would be more for those that do thousands of miles never sleeping in a B@B, hotel or home, right?

    • @kukhuve6595
      @kukhuve6595 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      as you said. to be able not to wait for the battery to charge is really nice. And in some places there is really far away from a place to charge.
      Biggest advantadge is the range. Even if you are not in remote canada you will have the freedom to go anywhere you want. With a battery only you have to plan your trip and calculate distance.

    • @UrgenthelpwithSubscriptionsHel
      @UrgenthelpwithSubscriptionsHel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depend on the motor, I will choose a different kind of charger. For example my e bike motor it's 48v and 7.5A torque. 250w. So I can drive without battery if I use a power converter AC 230V TO DC 50.00V 5A. My generator it's 1000w max. So its very silent at 250w dc output to power the bike. For long miles I don't use the batteries. I have motors on both wheels wich can let me use extra torque on hills. It is safer like that because both wheels working, wich can prolong the life of the wheel.

    • @AB-kg6rk
      @AB-kg6rk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      primative camp sites.

  • @topsecret1837
    @topsecret1837 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now make a pedal powered generator powered bike.

  • @Thomas-yr9ln
    @Thomas-yr9ln 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like it would overcharge the battery on the bike shortening it's life.

    • @a-carpenter9229
      @a-carpenter9229 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would probably be wise to discharge the battery to about 60% before plugging in the charger. I'd like to try this by mounting the generator in a trailer but don't want to burn up the battery. The charger the came with my ebike only puts out 163 watts

  • @darkestgreenmewtwo
    @darkestgreenmewtwo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it safe to just buy a generator and plug it in with the charger using it and charging at he same time? =s

  • @medoooolape1457
    @medoooolape1457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    هل يمكن قيادة الدراجة و المولدة تعمل

    • @AB-kg6rk
      @AB-kg6rk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes, just dont overcharge the battery.

  • @Xelsorsior
    @Xelsorsior 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the charging system that hooks up between the generator and the battery?

    • @a-carpenter9229
      @a-carpenter9229 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's the bike charger that comes with the bike.

  • @savagegtalks5912
    @savagegtalks5912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, how is the vibration going?

  • @GianfrancoFronzi
    @GianfrancoFronzi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever thought to use a twelve volt inverter between the generator and chargers

    • @offgrid2010
      @offgrid2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      My charger is 42 volts/4 amps for a 36v li-ion battery pack which is required for the BMS to work correctly. I use a separate 12v battery pack w 5v adapter for my electronics and 12v for lights...But you made me think of 12v input RC chargers that multiply the output. .

  • @SamsungJ-ho5vv
    @SamsungJ-ho5vv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please link what items to buy for this to work

  • @tenij000
    @tenij000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can run the bike whit generator 50v dc powersupply whit out battery's

  • @marx875
    @marx875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much money u saved

  • @hernandadian5516
    @hernandadian5516 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happen if you remove battery?

  • @Schnitzel2080
    @Schnitzel2080 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its dammt loud. But i love this Setup. :) Is this legal, ever problem with cops?

    • @WazzyCabbage
      @WazzyCabbage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      read law legislations, the vehicle has electric transmission, the generator just supplies electric ! aslong as user doesnt speed and get caught, there no real concern

  • @avikfett1551
    @avikfett1551 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are amazing. 💋