First Touring Trip with Electric Enduro E-bike [360km, throttle only]

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  • @DatEbikeGuy
    @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Social Media:
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  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Overall, as someone who wants to do more bike traveling with his e bike, I love that you are out there doing it. I appreciate your fine example.

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      My real goal is to inspire people that it is possible to use an ebike as a substitute for a car.

  • @denveradventures589
    @denveradventures589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Add a boy I’m watching this while eating out of my canteen cup some seafood noodle stuff. Glad to see I’m not the only one who uses a US Army canteen from a regular water bottle I’d be like I’m subscribing but I already a.m.

  • @sgsuper1150
    @sgsuper1150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the generator on the back idea.

  • @ramwellness6950
    @ramwellness6950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos bro! I'll be bingeing on these now until they're all done!

  • @deanoboland
    @deanoboland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work on video mate 👍👍

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey and big thanks for watching 😀😎

  • @Jarrod_D
    @Jarrod_D ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video 💯🙂👍
    Also thanks for not fake pedaling i subbed

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the sub 🔥! I only fake pedal when police around 🚓

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how you show crossing the river and how everything doesn't always go smooth as glass. It seemed you could have just leaned your bike on the embankment and gotten your pack back out of the water right away?

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      People are lazy by nature, I overestimated myself. I didn't want to risk it, I wanted to get the bike up

  • @canadiane-biker836
    @canadiane-biker836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome build I subbed !

  • @brianbassett4379
    @brianbassett4379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You and I had the same idea in mind of self-sustained ebike touring and took totally different routes. You went with a hub-motor and I chose a mid-drive. That's the 1st big decision anyone must make when designing an ebike for touring. We both have full suspension bikes. We both knew an alternative power source was going to be necessary. Both carry panniers and other various bags on the bike... in camping and bike touring it's all about the bags. We both use Grin Satiators. I think we both understand that fenders are a must... at least some of the time. Best of all we are both getting the range in excess of 100 miles.
    Here's where you and I differ... I live in America and that means if I stay within the definition of a Low-Speed Electric Bike (LSEB) as defined in the Consumer Protection Safety Act my bike is allowed anywhere in America that bicycles can be ridden... virtually anywhere legally with no license, tags, or taxes. That means the bike must be able to be ridden like a standard bike, not have a motor over 750W, and not move faster than 20 mph on throttle only. Keeping that definition in mind I wanted a standard bike frame, suspended, and designed specifically for touring... there are only a couple to pick from. It didn't take long to decide on the Tout Terrain Panamericana. The biggest, and most important, advantage to this frame is that you can carry a big battery in the center of the frame nice and low for stability. When I say big, I mean 17 lbs., 58.8V 30Ah 2058Wh. I also pull another battery in a single wheel suspension trailer, which gives me a range of more than 200 miles on a hard level surface, and that's using no more than 70% of the battery's capacity. Don't charge past 85% and don't deplete past 20% and the packs (the most expensive disposable part) last and last. I love using the Satiator to charge to an exact voltage, for me it's 56.8V.
    I decided that mid-drive motors had advantages over hub motors for touring bikes and still stick by that. I love to argue about the pros and cons. I coupled a BaFang mid-dive to a Rohloff Speedhub and have been happy since. The two work together seamlessly. The suspended Panamerican frame is designed specifically to carry panniers, to that, I added a suspension fork and a FAIV Hoogar rack that lets me carry twin panniers and other bags on the fork suspended as well. Providing a very smooth and controlled ride even when there is over 60 lbs. on the front fork. Fully loaded there is over 130 lbs. (59 kilos) of gear, battery, and motor hanging on the bike before I step on it. Also, up to another 90 lbs. (40 kilos) of gear and suspension trailer.
    There was no way I would ever carry a generator and gas. Not that I wouldn't love to have access to A/C power at times, but I wanted to be able to leave all infrastructure for indefinite periods... so, I went solar with a 300W SunCapture folding solar panel, both heavy... and expensive. I greatly prefer to have access to A/C power at night for charging and take advantage of it at times during the day if necessary, but for about 8 months of the year, I don't have to rely on it. Just like with your generator it makes me feel more secure knowing I can recharge when and if necessary. I started riding in 2016 and have over 20K miles (32K kilos) on the bike now. I've had mods performed on the bike and trailer, swapped motors, been through 3 sets of mirrors, been through 4 sets of Schwalbe Marathon tires, and countless brake pads now.
    You mentioned having music in the morning would be nice and I totally agree. I have music 24/7, a very high priority. A Fugoo XL Bluetooth speaker is either mounted on the bike directly behind me or on the trailer arm when it's being pulled. There's no way I would ride wearing earbuds and this helps let pedestrians know I am coming towards them. I also suggest a great center stand, a dynamo hub in the front for charging while riding, and a for the headlight.
    Take a look at how I set mine up.
    7 levels of bike
    photos.app.goo.gl/ADgC6oyPM2gyrCq27
    Panniers:
    Garage, 13.7 lbs. (Left front) - photos.app.goo.gl/wtBkagW4fbfQxnJn7
    Primary Sleep System, 12 lbs. (Right front) - photos.app.goo.gl/s4ZwacKEVL7obUGv6
    Kitchen, 14.5 lbs. (Left rear)- photos.app.goo.gl/WnqJj7b6UxGNSvjg8
    Bedroom/Bathroom, 11 lbs. (Right rear) - photos.app.goo.gl/Psj6sHpoiy7jq3JY7
    Handlebar & bar-bag evolution: Bar-bag, 6 lbs., Handlebar bag, 13+ lbs.
    - photos.app.goo.gl/owx61e75m2nsSdjJ8
    25 Jul 20 - Mowich Lake
    www.relive.cc/view/v8qkd2LGdKv
    photos.app.goo.gl/hRSTYZ8UjzdpuQ7n8
    26 Jul 20 - Rain Forest trail
    www.relive.cc/view/vQvyDGe2W4q - prnt.sc/tsxt5p
    photos.app.goo.gl/WcoVAreB4TUdAiPF7
    th-cam.com/video/WwwdaVg4Y5M/w-d-xo.html
    I love riding away from fast riders. - th-cam.com/video/jBvhEa80rEw/w-d-xo.html
    Stay safe.

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey
      Thanks for sharing photos and information, much appreciated :)
      I've tried mid-drive motor 750W bafang on my recumbent bike, quite awesome but my annual mileage is insane and I sold it because the maintenance costs come pretty high. A direct drive motor is the cheapest to maintain. My annual mileage will be over 20,000km/12400miles this year.
      I noticed that you are using a butterfly/touring handlebars. Back when I was a traditional cyclist I was a traditional cyclist then I was using same handlebars in 2015-2018
      photos.app.goo.gl/4p7sgkFjnvYkjf7E7
      These Marathon Mondial tires are the best.
      Best wishes

    • @brianbassett4379
      @brianbassett4379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DatEbikeGuy Yeah, recumbents aren't the way to go unless you are always riding on paved surfaces. My 20K miles has only had two motor issues using the BaFang and I fixed those myself. The handlebars allow me to have a ton of shit attached and still leave me multiple handholds all while being more narrow than most straight bars. The adjustable stem lets me change the height of the bars by several inches also. 12K miles is less than 35 miles a day people do that on standard bikes. Is there a point other than fun?

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brianbassett4379 I have a total of three electric bikes, two standard and one recumbent.
      The reason I started looking at recumbents was aerodynamics. I can ride more with the same power than a standard bike + is more comfortable. I love both and don't hate any kind of bike. For everyday rides I use a standard bike and in my free time I ride a recumbent bike or another standard. This summer, I rode 340km (211miles) on the recumbent bike with only hand throttle at an average speed of 30km/h (18 miles/h) on a single charge. Definitely fun.
      Some interesting videos:
      Russia guy with hes costum recumbent with bafang+solar: th-cam.com/video/QsDF-qztCKs/w-d-xo.html
      American with standard bike + solar + bafang: th-cam.com/video/FgYoatzfJlI/w-d-xo.html
      Best wishes

    • @brianbassett4379
      @brianbassett4379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DatEbikeGuy Like I said, recumbents are fine for hard surfaces until someone builds a fat-tire recum (an SUV). I want to be able to ride anywhere I possibly can and that's not going to be with 3 wheels. Recumbents are hard to spot sometimes too when using biking infrastructure being so low to the ground. I also don't want more than a single bike, I just wanted the best all-around bike possible. If I was going to focus on speed I'd gear a bike for that and sacrifice climbing ability. If I was focused on energy loss I'd be using a Gates belt, and certainly wouldn't ride a full suspension bike. As far as recumbents and their aero characteristics once you are using a motor on a bike "being slippery" isn't as important. Although once in Texas on my bike I literally said "fuck it" and turned around and rode for a couple days in the opposite direction just to get the wind out of my face. If that was my concern I'd probably be riding a recumbent in a carbon fiber shell or chasing a lead vehicle across the salt-flats. Riding at speeds greater than 35 mph can be fun on a stripped-down ride but not even possible in the majority of the places I ride, let alone with 50 to 300 lbs of gear. I don't hide from traffic but I also don't seek it out just to have a hard surface to enjoy. If even moderately more speed was wanted I'd buy an e-motorcycle that would be infinitely safer than an ebike is a high speed. The idea of crashing at 40 mph on my bike makes me shudder. I am very content at 25/30 mph... not that 30 mph is much less dangerous.
      I've seen the links you provided. The idea of riding with a present-day solar panel "deployed", either on a trailer or a recumbent has always seemed foolish to me. It's usually someone that has never experienced strong winds on a heavy bike, and/or is looking to brag about mileage for potential sponsors. For me, it's not just about the "ride" but the whole experience and I don't mind stopping to recharge all the batteries. That's another advantage of riding-large ... being comfortable, clean, well equipped and stocked, entertained, and as self-supported as you want to be. My record is 13 days, it would have been more but I couldn't catch a fish to save my life for over a week.

    • @brianbassett4379
      @brianbassett4379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DatEbikeGuy I see these two a few times a month usually. Their son works in the aerospace industry and modified their bikes so hers mounts directly to his. Beautiful work. Not sure which one inspires me more. - prnt.sc/u7txhs

  • @DatEbikeGuy
    @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My First Touring Trip with costum built Electric Enduro, definitely memorable experiences :-)

  • @BestForexBroker2024
    @BestForexBroker2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I HAVE A BETTER IDEA: Take the cheapest 2 stroke engine (from a chainsaw, or a 2 stroke bicycle kit) and spin the cycle electric motor with the 2 stroke engine and charge through REGEN.
    This way it will be much lighter, no trunk space occupied, less electronics to fail and it will be a backup propulsion alternative.
    Also it will allow to charge wile you cruise and stop the 2 stroke while you rest so you have the quietness.
    Basically it would be like a hybrid car.
    I would make a quick install mechanism so I do not have to carry all the time the 2 stroker with me if I m doing short roads.

    • @BestForexBroker2024
      @BestForexBroker2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      a 50 cc chainsaw engine weights about 2,5 Kg.

    • @BestForexBroker2024
      @BestForexBroker2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could connect the 2 stroke to the chain using a CVT transmission like scooters have. You can find them on Aliexpress of you search: CVT Kart
      Torque Converter
      CVT for 2HP-7HP
      a.aliexpress.com/_mt21kNR
      There is also a version for 18 HP motors on Alibaba

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting reading, thanks :). I am always open to looking for better and more effective solutions.

    • @BestForexBroker2024
      @BestForexBroker2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DatEbikeGuy you don t even need the CVT transmission, but it was an added comfort but also added weight and cost.
      Maybe you have an old chainsaw, just modify the centrifugal clutch case by welding a cycle sprocket on it.
      This might turn out to be a 0 $ project if you have the chainsaw and a few bicycle parts for the transmission.
      You might have to make an intermediary reduction before connecting it to the main cycle chain.
      If you want to overload it I suggest a small water injection sprayer in the intake for added torque and to cool it down to safe levels.

    • @BestForexBroker2024
      @BestForexBroker2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DatEbikeGuy another thing that you will have to consider is the gears have to freewell on the pedals axle, but this can be done pretty cheap, there are plenty of tutorials here on YT

  • @ramwellness6950
    @ramwellness6950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The struggled is REALLLLL!!! JEEEZE! 😅😅😅

  • @Jerbrown
    @Jerbrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the furthest trip you'd take with this setup. Currently planning a south american tour from Canada on my ebike and building a custom battery with 200 km per charge range.

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey.
      The longest trip has been 1000km. My channel also has the latest video from this trip. In fact, the distance you can travel with such equipment is unlimited. It is possible to refuel from any petrol station for a generator. Large batteries are always awesome. How long your trip to South America will be in km?

    • @Jerbrown
      @Jerbrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DatEbikeGuy that's awesome! I'd like to do an indefinite ebike travel. The trip to Peru would be 5000km plus!

  • @miguelatambucho748
    @miguelatambucho748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. What kind of panniers do you have on?

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey.
      It´s ORTLIEB - High quality bags . Made in Germany. Some of the bags are from 2015 and I use them every day. In this video, I use the following bags: Back-Roller Pro Plus, Handlebar-Pack + Accessory-Pack, Dry-Bag PD350.

  • @ramwellness6950
    @ramwellness6950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I MUST DO THIS!!!!

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope you're enjoying your design. I think you could save a few Kgs by ditching the fuel and motor and just adding some more battery capacity. Then navigate to pass through civilization from time to time and find a spot to charge up. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Allready done that....almost 😄

    • @nynut518
      @nynut518 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the extra 30 lbs is worth having the power available

  • @DJ-hy8wf
    @DJ-hy8wf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should just charge your batteries with the generator as you cruise down the road.

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey
      I could. But it's no longer keeping a low profile. The bike itself resembles a motorcycle and the generator makes a noise, screams for the attention of the police.

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm surprised your bike can handle the full weight of you and your gear. It looks like you have over 150 kg of you and gear on there, most bikes can't handle that.

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey. I think the weight could have been ~130 kg there. Usually, such and all bikes are given a load capacity of 125 kg, which is standard. This bike has premium parts + the frame is made of steel .And even if I'm overweight, I drive carefully, avoid potholes. I wasn't afraid the frame wouldn't hold up. There is a video on my channel called "500km/310mi in two days - Commuting E-bike"... then I was really afraid that the bike wouldn't last.

  • @pedrofernandez8729
    @pedrofernandez8729 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not pedal and extend your range?

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A very interesting question.
      Throttle is convenient to use, no sweat and an interesting experiment.

    • @Louis-lu5wh
      @Louis-lu5wh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe he didn’t think he needed it I mean I ain’t scoffing at 350k lol

  • @gamePSeBikeEnduro
    @gamePSeBikeEnduro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍👍😎😈

  • @dukemasters6829
    @dukemasters6829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to lose about 50kg from that bike set up and your on to a winner

  • @hshroyalnloyal2058
    @hshroyalnloyal2058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you bring way too much weight. need to loose some of it. probably lightweighter trip is the best.

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not quite. The unladen weight of the electric bike without camping equipment is 65-70kg. Bedding, food, drink and other necessities of life weigh an additional 20-30kg. The generator can be left behind and save 10kg.

  • @ElRealista7
    @ElRealista7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    no offense but dont put the mask back on it destroys the cool enduro bike look in my opinionXD cool video

    • @DatEbikeGuy
      @DatEbikeGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      None taken :) I like mad max or wasteland style things. I also like the Stalker video game theme where the gas mask is key.

    • @ElRealista7
      @ElRealista7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DatEbikeGuy each his own! :D