@@living4adrenaline Hey thanks for your comments, they are always exciting to read 👍. The generator will run at half power for somewhere around ~8 hours( haven't tested it myself) and at full power for 4 hours( which I have done all the time). Since I use a big battery, I can charge the battery to full capacity with one full tank at full power ~600w per hour. With one tank of fuel ~2+ kW. I agree with your previous comment. Especially when the generator is running at full power it is very noisy, if you want to be close by then ear plugs are necessary. And I've always looked for places away from houses when charging batteries to avoid problems. Best wishes
@@DatEbikeGuy very cool. I use my bike to deliver food for Uber eats and I'm trying to find an easy solution to extend range without spending a lot of money, seems like the technology isn't there yet.
Hey. I don't see a big problem with it, probably because I grew up with minimal requirements. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have a garage where I could do welding and dustier work. Thanks for the Comment.
As for getting attention from the police: In England anyway unless something is strictly prohibited by law it's permissible. I have been thinking of doing this as I'm getting older and have some illnesses that prohibit long distance cycling. I have a Brompton folding bike which can be converted to electric. It does have a rack on the back but I also have a Burley Travoy trailer for carrying stuff as the Brompton folding bike is not really a pack horse type bike. I would only run the generator when on the open road not going through town. Very interesting and thanks for posting.
These would get astronomically high fuel economy numbers if set up to use the generator's full potential. You could get 200 MPG or higher with a power supply matching the rated output going to the motor instead of a charger. I'm in the process of building one at the moment.
@@bingbong7206 after building one, I realized a lot of advantages came from this other than fuel efficiency. It was much easier to install and work on, and came with a large gas tank and quiet muffler already. On the bike I made, it was driven by a 149cc engine. There was no clutch, no transmission, cvt or shifter, and no engine stalling. It even came with an integrated 12v electrical source. The only controls were the brakes and the throttle. It was very easy to drive.
Very cool video, based on your design I added a light weight 4 stroke 1800 watt gas generator to my Lectric XP 2.0 bike. If I keep my speeds to 15 to 18 mph the generator keeps the battery topped off. This has extended my range to 130 miles. Planning a cross country trip with it here in the USA.
Hey. Nice to hear. It seems to me that there are many generator users in the United States. I wish you success in your tour. It will definitely be a memorable experience :).
In Canada all gas powered mopeds need to be licensed and insured but not an ebike. A light weight 800 W inverter generator would be great for a long bike tour!
Very nice video, I was wondering if someone had already tried this, although wouldn't it be smarter to mount it on a front rack, would be more stable too
Hey Actually, about that front rack talk. At the moment, I have another battery (~2kw) placed in the front of the pelican case. It weighs the same as the generator. So haven't run the generator in its two+ years. It's definitely a good idea to put the weight down front and the maneuverability isn't hard.
Ebike has replaced cars. You want it more quiet? Dig a deep hole in the ground, put the generator inside it and cover it up. Just make sure that it has air flow.
Wow. I was thinking about this as I just bought a diamondback union w/ Bosch 85nm motor, it only lasts for maybe an hour with city riding. Range extender batteries will only add so much and they cost almost $800. Too bad this would add 20lbs and a high center of gravity to my bike, most notably, it's too noisy for city use but would be awesome (also obnoxiously loud) for long range logging/fire road/back road usage.
thats a lot of weight on a seat post rack. i snapped rack and bent the seat post when i hit a slight dip in the road when i had about 35lbs of lipo battery on it, destpite it being rated for 40 lbs lol. i am thinking about getting a small 2kw inverter gen to run on the bike and charge the battery as i am riding it.
Hey. Indeed. My seat post rack maximum weight can support up to 22lbs I have been careful and have taken the precaution of adding an extra vertical tube to the seatpost. It will take more weight or, if something should happen, it won't fall straight off the ground while driving. 2kw inteverter..thats alot, about 44lbs? Thanks for the Comment 👍.
9.3 kilos without fuel is like 4 batterys for my e-bike, that would add like 200-300 km range. Should be able to find an outlet every 200 km, even in your country :-)
You're absolutely right. I once paid 7 euros for a tent site at a caravan park and camping area. I never planned to stay there, but it allowed me to charge my bike and use the toilet and shower facilities. Since it's a business, nothing is free, but it's fair. Solar panels are the future, and I'm slowly moving in that direction. I am now the owner of a Coho XC trailer, and gradually, I'm shifting towards green energy. 10 kg is equivalent to a 2 kW battery bank, which, with pedal assistance, guarantees 200 km indeed.
Hey. Using a generator while driving is indeed a good idea. However, it’s worth noting that driving with an active generator could potentially attract attention, possibly leading to being pulled over by law enforcement. Moreover, the noise produced by the generator contradicts the purpose of using an e-bike, which is designed for quiet operation. As for the specific generator I mentioned, it’s rarely used - perhaps only once a year. Therefore, suggestions to purchase a moped or a petrol-engine motorcycle aren’t particularly relevant in my case.
@@DatEbikeGuy Attract attention of police in one of my fear also if my ebike is legal 100% is better not attract attentions. I should would use a ecoflow and recharge is at the charging station of the elettric cars but the ecoflow is more expensive and anyway you need to recharge it also if you extend your range
Hey. I tried once and generator died🙄. Resulting in a broken inverter, which costs about the same as the generator itself. Although I have seen one on youtuber who drove thousands of miles with a working generator and no problems. Did I mentioned that my generator died after driving a few meters, epic fail... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@DatEbikeGuy You must have ridden only on generator, is that right? If u drove with it working, it should charge battery and when your drive, first energy would come from charger and then if it is not enough it would come from battery and as far as I understand you drove ONLY on charger which caused damage.Correct me if I am wrong. I am planning to build one. Here in Poland it is quite easy to find a power socket everywhere, so for me it would make no sense to make this project just for charging and staying in one place. I have 1.4kwh battery, 3kw motor and 600w charger and my main idea was to drive and charge simultaneously so I can keep up with my friend on gas bike while on long trips.
@@janrozanski8033 Hey. I suspect the generator didn't like the up and down motion causing the rear suspension. Because people drive thousands of km with a generator and there is no problem. (The generator charge went through the charger directly to the battery and from there the current went directly to the motor). The inverter itself is quite delicate. E.g. Unexpected shutdown may cause damage.
Hey. I haven't started my generator in two years. When you are on a long hike, away from civilization. If you want to quickly charge the batteries, then the generator is the right choice. At the moment I am looking for alternatives in the form of solar panels. I'm definitely not a fan of the generator. But if some trip requires it, I would definitely use it. But I like the idea of solar panels more. I wouldn't be able to recommend it, it all depends.
@@Toby10 2kw generator is extremly heavy. ~20kg something? I´m using grin satiator for 5 years almost, awesome quiet charger, I charge the battery every day. Maximum output 360W or 8A. I use aliexpress charger for fast charging when I travel.
There are 48V, 72V DC inverter generators intended as Range extenders for smal EVs from China. They even use the generator as a selfstarter from the connected battery. They cost the same as an ordinary small generator.
@@Tore_Lund if they can fast charge great but the practicality of building an internal combustion engine small enough to run efficiently sized for 100 watt load is difficult. It would be less than 5cc, at which point the engine is not efficient due to size alone
@@TimpBizkit 100w is indeed too low to be worthwhile with a generator. The Chinese DC generators are 2-6kW with the smallest 2 kW just right for running continiously around idle making 300-500w, if you intend to ride at normal bicycle speeds with it running All the time. He does not need any kind of wall Charger between the generator and battery. This device makes a current limited DC. Voltage, so the generator is connected directly to the battery.
@@TimpBizkit Because of the law: An electric bike has an electric motor, no more than 250W in some countries. A gasoline engine only makes it a moped or a motor bike, which wil make it confiscated at the first police check.
Hey. I've been watching your TH-cam clips. Interesting to look at. Personally, I have thought about getting one, First I want to find out some facts about it. A little curious if you have registered your electric bike ??. Would like to be legal to ride the bike on the roads. If you have done so. What do I need to know? Or do. Thanks from Toni From Sweden.
Hey! A law will soon be passed where the permitted motor power is 1000W and the speed is limited to 25km/h. If you have e.g. 3000W motor then you limit it to 1000W and should be OK in the eyes of the law. My bike has three buttons, one of which limits the speed to 25km/h. Yes, I have tried to register my bike as a moped and failed. In the future, I plan to make a video of the moped registration process. Not sure yet... In England, TH-camr Andy Kirby easily managed to register as an Enduro moped. In my country, it is impossible to register a moped in this form. To register a costum moped, the frame must be homemade and must not be similar to the factory. However, such a bike attracts a lot of attention and resembles a motorcycle. If you want to keep a low profile then it makes more sense to put an motor on a regular bike It is advisable to find out what the laws in your country are. Sorry for the grammar errors. Thanks
@@DatEbikeGuy You are probably right there, better to put an electric motor on a regular bike, here in Sweden the laws are so complicated they do not know how they work. But I thank you for the information you gave me and the advice. Thanks ... Toni
@@tonitodorovski6457 I'm happy to help. The speed limit and the wattage thing may be in the law, another thing, does anyone control that? In the city center I have an average speed of less than 25km/h as many things can happen, it would be dangerous to drive faster. In rural areas 35-45 km/h is normal Best Wishes, DatEbikeGuy
Hey and thanks for the comment. I’m expecting cells/batteries to be more energy-intensive and safer. To start with, they should be 2-3 times more energy-intensive and offer safer fast charging. There are so many prototypes in labs, but mass production hasn’t caught up yet.
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How many recharges will you get out of this generator with one fill up of fuel? Really cool and thank you for sharing
@@living4adrenaline Hey thanks for your comments, they are always exciting to read 👍. The generator will run at half power for somewhere around ~8 hours( haven't tested it myself) and at full power for 4 hours( which I have done all the time). Since I use a big battery, I can charge the battery to full capacity with one full tank at full power ~600w per hour. With one tank of fuel ~2+ kW. I agree with your previous comment. Especially when the generator is running at full power it is very noisy, if you want to be close by then ear plugs are necessary. And I've always looked for places away from houses when charging batteries to avoid problems.
Best wishes
@@DatEbikeGuy very cool. I use my bike to deliver food for Uber eats and I'm trying to find an easy solution to extend range without spending a lot of money, seems like the technology isn't there yet.
This really brings me back to the days where any little room I was staying in was also a workshop.
Hey. I don't see a big problem with it, probably because I grew up with minimal requirements. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have a garage where I could do welding and dustier work. Thanks for the Comment.
As for getting attention from the police: In England anyway unless something is strictly prohibited by law it's permissible. I have been thinking of doing this as I'm getting older and have some illnesses that prohibit long distance cycling. I have a Brompton folding bike which can be converted to electric. It does have a rack on the back but I also have a Burley Travoy trailer for carrying stuff as the Brompton folding bike is not really a pack horse type bike. I would only run the generator when on the open road not going through town. Very interesting and thanks for posting.
These would get astronomically high fuel economy numbers if set up to use the generator's full potential. You could get 200 MPG or higher with a power supply matching the rated output going to the motor instead of a charger. I'm in the process of building one at the moment.
Wouldn't it just make more sense to run it off the motor itself then?
@@bingbong7206 after building one, I realized a lot of advantages came from this other than fuel efficiency. It was much easier to install and work on, and came with a large gas tank and quiet muffler already. On the bike I made, it was driven by a 149cc engine. There was no clutch, no transmission, cvt or shifter, and no engine stalling. It even came with an integrated 12v electrical source. The only controls were the brakes and the throttle. It was very easy to drive.
@@bingbong7206that won't work.. I've tried multiple times... It will guzzle more gas when it has to run a drivetrain...
Very cool video, based on your design I added a light weight 4 stroke 1800 watt gas generator to my Lectric XP 2.0 bike. If I keep my speeds to 15 to 18 mph the generator keeps the battery topped off. This has extended my range to 130 miles. Planning a cross country trip with it here in the USA.
Hey. Nice to hear. It seems to me that there are many generator users in the United States. I wish you success in your tour. It will definitely be a memorable experience :).
SunTrip for the win
I think about ebike road trip with generator and your video prove it's work 😃😃😃
Indeed. Thanks to that, I was also able to do a 1000km memorable electric bike tour. Although I'm always looking for alternatives
@@DatEbikeGuy 1000km its so amazing... :)
I like your ideas 😊
Thanks 😁
I salute you my friend good job 👍
Thanks
In Canada all gas powered mopeds need to be licensed and insured but not an ebike. A light weight 800 W inverter generator would be great for a long bike tour!
Hey and Indeed. The generator is the only one that allows fast charging, especially when it comes to an energy-hungry ebike.
if theres police nearby, you can shut the motor off and silent pass them by.
I saw that video you mentioned and now i am here 👌🙌😅🥳🙈
Glad you found your way here! Thanks for stopping by my old video! 📺😅
Very nice video, I was wondering if someone had already tried this, although wouldn't it be smarter to mount it on a front rack, would be more stable too
Hey
Actually, about that front rack talk. At the moment, I have another battery (~2kw) placed in the front of the pelican case. It weighs the same as the generator. So haven't run the generator in its two+ years. It's definitely a good idea to put the weight down front and the maneuverability isn't hard.
Ebike has replaced cars. You want it more quiet? Dig a deep hole in the ground, put the generator inside it and cover it up. Just make sure that it has air flow.
It’s too much work. I’d better take a few steps away or use earplugs. If you’re staying for a week, it might not even be a bad idea.
Diesel train locomotives actually use a diesel generator that powers electric motors to turn the wheels.
how about eliminating the middle man and hook the generator straight to the motor
@@omegarugal9283The reason they work that way is its only required to run on idle speed which dramatically increases the efficiency.
Wow. I was thinking about this as I just bought a diamondback union w/ Bosch 85nm motor, it only lasts for maybe an hour with city riding. Range extender batteries will only add so much and they cost almost $800. Too bad this would add 20lbs and a high center of gravity to my bike, most notably, it's too noisy for city use but would be awesome (also obnoxiously loud) for long range logging/fire road/back road usage.
so now we have ebike with 200-300km autonomy, i will do the same dude if i could sell my car, good video
I would use a bike trailer to keep it in
That's a good idea. 👍
Great idea,great project,great vid ! Thanks for posting this 🌞!
Thank you very much for your positive comment :)
thats a lot of weight on a seat post rack. i snapped rack and bent the seat post when i hit a slight dip in the road when i had about 35lbs of lipo battery on it, destpite it being rated for 40 lbs lol.
i am thinking about getting a small 2kw inverter gen to run on the bike and charge the battery as i am riding it.
Hey. Indeed. My seat
post rack maximum weight can support up to 22lbs I have been careful and have taken the precaution of adding an extra vertical tube to the seatpost. It will take more weight or, if something should happen, it won't fall straight off the ground while driving. 2kw inteverter..thats alot, about 44lbs? Thanks for the Comment 👍.
9.3 kilos without fuel is like 4 batterys for my e-bike, that would add like 200-300 km range. Should be able to find an outlet every 200 km, even in your country :-)
You're absolutely right. I once paid 7 euros for a tent site at a caravan park and camping area. I never planned to stay there, but it allowed me to charge my bike and use the toilet and shower facilities. Since it's a business, nothing is free, but it's fair. Solar panels are the future, and I'm slowly moving in that direction. I am now the owner of a Coho XC trailer, and gradually, I'm shifting towards green energy. 10 kg is equivalent to a 2 kW battery bank, which, with pedal assistance, guarantees 200 km indeed.
When you can’t stop buying mods for your e bike 😂🙏🙏
That’s a Loop hole wen you don’t have you’re license 😂
or Clever use of game mechanics.
This makes ebikes actually feasible.
Why can't you run the bike directly on the generator? Just reduce the voltage and off you go
Hey. Using a generator while driving is indeed a good idea. However, it’s worth noting that driving with an active generator could potentially attract attention, possibly leading to being pulled over by law enforcement. Moreover, the noise produced by the generator contradicts the purpose of using an e-bike, which is designed for quiet operation. As for the specific generator I mentioned, it’s rarely used - perhaps only once a year. Therefore, suggestions to purchase a moped or a petrol-engine motorcycle aren’t particularly relevant in my case.
@@DatEbikeGuy Attract attention of police in one of my fear also if my ebike is legal 100% is better not attract attentions. I should would use a ecoflow and recharge is at the charging station of the elettric cars but the ecoflow is more expensive and anyway you need to recharge it also if you extend your range
Did you try driving with it while it was charging? Would you be able to drive untill the generator ran outta fuel??!
Hey.
I tried once and generator died🙄. Resulting in a broken inverter, which costs about the same as the generator itself. Although I have seen one on youtuber who drove thousands of miles with a working generator and no problems. Did I mentioned that my generator died after driving a few meters, epic fail... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@DatEbikeGuy You must have ridden only on generator, is that right? If u drove with it working, it should charge battery and when your drive, first energy would come from charger and then if it is not enough it would come from battery and as far as I understand you drove ONLY on charger which caused damage.Correct me if I am wrong. I am planning to build one. Here in Poland it is quite easy to find a power socket everywhere, so for me it would make no sense to make this project just for charging and staying in one place. I have 1.4kwh battery, 3kw motor and 600w charger and my main idea was to drive and charge simultaneously so I can keep up with my friend on gas bike while on long trips.
@@janrozanski8033 Hey. I suspect the generator didn't like the up and down motion causing the rear suspension. Because people drive thousands of km with a generator and there is no problem. (The generator charge went through the charger directly to the battery and from there the current went directly to the motor). The inverter itself is quite delicate. E.g. Unexpected shutdown may cause damage.
Doesnt the generator shake out the bolts in the bike?
Hey!
Interesting question. The answer is no. If the bolts are lubricated with Loctatite threadlocker grease or used rubbered washer nuts.
@@DatEbikeGuy you know your stuff. Thanks for the videos.
I'm thinking if I was to be packing a generator on a bike I'd have it on a separate trailer, perhaps a tent trailer.
I would simply tell the police that I'm gearing up for the zombie apocalypse.
Nice job
Great setup. Do you still use it ? Would you recommend someone to use this setup?
Hey. I haven't started my generator in two years. When you are on a long hike, away from civilization. If you want to quickly charge the batteries, then the generator is the right choice. At the moment I am looking for alternatives in the form of solar panels. I'm definitely not a fan of the generator. But if some trip requires it, I would definitely use it. But I like the idea of solar panels more. I wouldn't be able to recommend it, it all depends.
@@DatEbikeGuy thanks so much for the prompt reply brother. looking forward to your solar panel assembly.
This is looking more like the only practical way to do it. Solar is just... solar. Need I say more? Can't deny it even has green fuel too?!
Your sound so similir with RJ
Hi how much time to put to charge, your battery,!?
Hey. Usually 3-4 hours. ~620W per hour.
@@DatEbikeGuy Thank you. With a 2kw generator I could reduce charging times. Also using a Grin Satiator.....
@@Toby10 2kw generator is extremly heavy. ~20kg something? I´m using grin satiator for 5 years almost, awesome quiet charger, I charge the battery every day. Maximum output 360W or 8A. I use aliexpress charger for fast charging when I travel.
What is that universal charger model that you using?
Hey. Its called Cycle Satiator and standard model 4808 from Canada. The same company that also makes a cycle analyst
I either do with sloar panel
Solar panels are definitely better. 200-300W folding panels definitely sound good.
I am always looking for better solutions
I just was researching about doing this, but it seems way too attractive to thieves and unscrupulous officials who may find excuses to write a fine.
Hey.
That's why i drive a non-transparent cover pulled on the generator and I charge the batteries when the bike is hidden.
@@DatEbikeGuy can't you charge the bike as you are riding it?
@@hassanjamal4212 It´s possible. I don't do that because it draws attention. While charging the batteries I can eat and just chill.
@@DatEbikeGuy true true. Nothing worse that undue attention when your just going about your day.
@@DatEbikeGuy too bad you dont have a small vehicle muffler thats meant to be super quiet that you could put on there to silence it
A generator is probably wasted on my 2 amp 100 watt charger. It would probably use less fuel charging several batteries at once for a shorter time.
There are 48V, 72V DC inverter generators intended as Range extenders for smal EVs from China. They even use the generator as a selfstarter from the connected battery. They cost the same as an ordinary small generator.
@@Tore_Lund if they can fast charge great but the practicality of building an internal combustion engine small enough to run efficiently sized for 100 watt load is difficult. It would be less than 5cc, at which point the engine is not efficient due to size alone
@@TimpBizkit 100w is indeed too low to be worthwhile with a generator. The Chinese DC generators are 2-6kW with the smallest 2 kW just right for running continiously around idle making 300-500w, if you intend to ride at normal bicycle speeds with it running All the time. He does not need any kind of wall Charger between the generator and battery. This device makes a current limited DC. Voltage, so the generator is connected directly to the battery.
@@TimpBizkit Because of the law: An electric bike has an electric motor, no more than 250W in some countries. A gasoline engine only makes it a moped or a motor bike, which wil make it confiscated at the first police check.
@@Tore_Lund common myth. It’s 250W NOMINAL limit, not peak power
Hey.
I've been watching your TH-cam clips. Interesting to look at. Personally, I have thought about getting one, First I want to find out some facts about it. A little curious if you have registered your electric bike ??. Would like to be legal to ride the bike on the roads.
If you have done so.
What do I need to know?
Or do.
Thanks from Toni
From Sweden.
Hey!
A law will soon be passed where the permitted motor power is 1000W and the speed is limited to 25km/h. If you have e.g. 3000W motor then you limit it to 1000W and should be OK in the eyes of the law.
My bike has three buttons, one of which limits the speed to 25km/h.
Yes, I have tried to register my bike as a moped and failed.
In the future, I plan to make a video of the moped registration process. Not sure yet... In England, TH-camr Andy Kirby easily managed to register as an Enduro moped.
In my country, it is impossible to register a moped in this form. To register a costum moped, the frame must be homemade and must not be similar to the factory.
However, such a bike attracts a lot of attention and resembles a motorcycle. If you want to keep a low profile then it makes more sense to put an motor on a regular bike
It is advisable to find out what the laws in your country are.
Sorry for the grammar errors.
Thanks
@@DatEbikeGuy
You are probably right there, better to put an electric motor on a regular bike, here in Sweden the laws are so complicated they do not know how they work.
But I thank you for the information you gave me and the advice.
Thanks ... Toni
@@tonitodorovski6457 I'm happy to help. The speed limit and the wattage thing may be in the law, another thing, does anyone control that?
In the city center I have an average speed of less than 25km/h as many things can happen, it would be dangerous to drive faster. In rural areas 35-45 km/h is normal
Best Wishes,
DatEbikeGuy
@@DatEbikeGuy there is only so much power you need for 25kph unless the hills are massively steep and you are heavy!
@@TimpBizkit And wind which is completely out of hand often :)
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I like what you've done, but still is not the answer, until technology comes up with something better than batteries
Hey and thanks for the comment. I’m expecting cells/batteries to be more energy-intensive and safer. To start with, they should be 2-3 times more energy-intensive and offer safer fast charging. There are so many prototypes in labs, but mass production hasn’t caught up yet.
how much does this weigh?
Hey.
Generator with oil and petrol 10-11 kg or 22-24lbs
Noisy generator
Nothing a good set of speakers can't cover!
*might as well just get a motorcycle* . . .
Get bigger generator and hook it to electric motorcycle. High mileage guaranteed, riding comfort not 😂