The "old formula" was what we used in the U.S. Army. It made the top on the Project Farm channel. It was aggressively used beyond the given product instructions in order to pass a detailed inspections by the NCO's. The preservative aspect in the formula was not necessary because we were so very frequently cleaning the weapons. They made us clean the weapons even if was just stored in the arms room without being fired. I have a can of the old formula today. Still has that same smell.
Break-Free CLP has always been my gold standard by which everything else is judged. Being an armorer I go through gallons of this stuff every year. I do prefer Radcolube CLP because I think it cleans a little bit better and the scent smells like grape juice.
We Sincerely Appreciate all your time spent on doing these tests and then posting on TH-cam . It’s not easy to do . And this was done with care . I’m sitting here with a new can of the Mil Spec CLP ( the gun store salesman recommended), and I’m ready to CLP my shotgun. I just wanted to see what folks are saying before I apply this product to the shotgun. Better safe than sorry haha . Well I’m sold now . Sure I have faith in what the salesman had said but a second opinion by someone who actually used the product , gives me piece of mind . I’m ready to CLP the weapon now . Again - I sincerely Thank You for taking the time to post this . Very Very Cool 🤠
Nice comparison/test. My friend gave me a bottle of Break Free decades ago when he was serving on the USS Nimitz. He told me it was a new product that they were using and that I should try it. Been using it since then and I've been satisfied with it's performance. Thanks for the informative video.👍🏻
I've done similar tests with similar results using IMR powder. One thing I notice with CLP is if you clean your gun with it, if you disassemble in a week, your gun might look dirty again. That's because CLP is always doing a little more cleaning even after it looked clean initially. I really like it for corrosion protection too. The Break Free brand is cheap and virtually odorless so it's my go to.
Direct from the Magdad laboratories - CLP and the wonders of this product! Great video! I have used CLP in the black can for years. I will have to pick up some of Mil Spec. Thanks!!!
A three way theater would be interesting to say the least. I hope you do it as I for one would be interested in seeing the results. Thank you for sharing!
@@357magdad would like to see if you have any different results that project farm had. He is crazy with the testing. th-cam.com/video/fibRewlndLg/w-d-xo.html
Good info... tradition of #9 is just hard to beat... heck my A5 "The Meat Axe" - I had ceramic coated years ago... I'd duck hunt all season with it...only take it from the floating gun case to hunt.. once season was over.. clean and put it up... still looks new 😊 oh I did clean during the season this one time after retrieving it from the bottom of the lake😳 Man, I was so tickled to have found it..and I just had to clean it and love on it a little...🤠👍 good stuff Magdad!
For all my time in the service the only CLP used was Break Free CLP in small non aerosol containers. It was great stuff. Loved the smell too! 😂👍. Great comparison...
The CLP in the black can and the new MIL-Spec both have no noticeable odor. The stuff in the black can was not very effective vs burnt gun powder. Maybe the gave you guys "the good stuff"?
As long as there are new products that continue to compete then ratings like yours will be valuable. I hope you will do an eval of those leading three. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
It its great that you have done extensive clp reviews/ Would you consider doing a conclusion , round up type video of all your findings over the years. Make a list of all you have tested in order of cleaning ability, corrosion protection, lubrication quality. Rate them in order of your findings.
Very interesting video. I have had good results with both products, CLP and Hoppes. Ballistol is not as common in this area as the other products. Interesting how Hoppes formula is so effective after about 100 years or more in the market.
I can tell you outside of using an ultrasonic cleaner, Hoppes is the best cleaner imo and CLP is an economical all around product. Clenzoil is hands down the best corrosion protection lubricant I’ve used. I was a gunsmith in humid South Florida for almost 30 years and Clenzoil was the best rust inhibiting product other then applying the thick sticky spray coating of shooters choice rust prevent. Shoot safe and shoot straight. ✌️
Not so much what you use as it is to actually use something..........The reason so many Old Timers that have guns from the 40s & 50s and they still look great is because they cleaned and lubed them after use......The standard Hoppe's solvent and oil will keep your guns in tiptop shape for a lifetime.........I've spent many days hunting in the snow or rain and as long as you get them dried out thoroughly and recoated with lube once dry you won't have a problem...................Same reason the tools I used when I worked in Structural Steel still look great even though they've seen a thousand times more use than the average homeowner tools ever will.........Simple cleaning and lubing will keep tools and guns in great working order for a lifetime.
I learned from my father and uncles to pronounce Hoppes correctly 40 years ago. How did they and their friends know then, with no internet, and so many today don’t? Probably from speaking to the counter men at the gun shops we frequented. They probably learned the proper pronunciation from the Hoppes reps they dealt with. Just an observation. Internet - wonderful..? Sure it is. Also.., not so wonderful.
I use Hoppe's #9 on the inside of the barrel, and Break Free on the outside and moving parts. The only time I would use WD40, if ever, would be inside of a shotgun barrel. Don't make much difference in there. But this is just me!
Just used Break-Free Mil Spec CLP on a brand new AR-15 build (never loaded with ammo yet). I also have Hoppe's 9. I guess the CLP is good enough? I was thinking to also use Hoppe's 9 to oil it. I'm thinking it's overkill?
Great video. I rotate a little among gun cleaners and lubes but the one's Ive always used (and prob always will) are the ones that have been around a long time. Not gonna switch to some of the newer ones who claim to have revolutionized gun maintenance personally. The next new one might be called "Breakcleanzefreethrough." And leaning towards just going with the best CLP since Im getting a little more lazy. I've always thought Breakfree was prob the best all around but was toxic and needed to be more careful with it. As opposed to Ballistol, which might not be quite as good but is very good and doesnt harm anything. Can apply it to my stocks, and furniture, lol. Might be coming to a point where I have these two only, depending on application, and maybe a copper solvent for rifles. And prob something else just in case, lol.
@@357magdad I actually just got some BreakFree Mil Spec (first time) and going to give it a go soon. Trying to decomplicate what I've been doing for a long time, lol. I do believe pretty much all the gun cleaning products, lubes, etc. work good but there still is enough difference in them where there is a best one or two depending on what you are doing. Im cleaning shotguns and pistols regularly and rifles occasionally. Appreciate your review magdad.
Ballistol is god level, does all and dirt cheap. Just don’t get it into the firing pin mechanism.. and remember to wipe the frame clean. It’s too oily and smelly tho
Check out Project Farm. Ballistol is a poor lubricant, poor corrosion inhibitor and also freezes solid. Not to mention the stink. There’s a reason the German army dumped it nearly a century ago. Oh and Hickok 45 doesn’t use it anymore. He switched to Lucas years ago. The can of Ballistol in his videos these days is nothing but a paid product placement. He talks about his switch to Lucas in one of his Glock review videos.
@@357magdad ; your reviews are always helpful to me unless I have tried the products before your review. You are my favorite TH-cam videographer out there.
@@357magdad Ah I see! Lol...I know all companies define clp as different ways with that last P. Some companies label it as protect but honestly preserve or protect is semantics I guess as both are similar. Hey bud have you tried the Lucas CLP? I've heard a couple guys swear by it and had used break free clp for years and prefer the Lucas over the break free clp. Something to maybe check out sometime! I have used neither yet so I was trying to decide lol. I appreciate this video! 🍻🍻
yeah..... just make some Ed's Red at home for pennies an ounce and forget every wonder CLP that comes down the pike. add some real lanolin (couple ounces per quart) and maybe some amyl acetated (used in perfumes) for odor. you can laugh at all your friends who pay $5 or more per ounce for the latest and greatest heavily advertised CLP. Be warned tho... if your friends try it and know you make it? They will come up with every excuse in the book for why they need a quart or two of yours and can't make their own.
@@357magdad Interesting question. I have some stuff called T9, I think - that is supposed to be good but I never think to use it. And it was damn expensive.
The "old formula" was what we used in the U.S. Army. It made the top on the Project Farm channel. It was aggressively used beyond the given product instructions in order to pass a detailed inspections by the NCO's.
The preservative aspect in the formula was not necessary because we were so very frequently cleaning the weapons. They made us clean the weapons even if was just stored in the arms room without being fired. I have a can of the old formula today. Still has that same smell.
Thanks for watching! The new "MIL-SPEC" formula definitely works better on burnt gun powder compared to the old "black can" formula.
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Outstanding video. Thoughtfully planned, carefully executed, no hype and no obnoxious music.
Thanks for watching Gary! I'm glad you liked the video!
Break-Free CLP has always been my gold standard by which everything else is judged. Being an armorer I go through gallons of this stuff every year. I do prefer Radcolube CLP because I think it cleans a little bit better and the scent smells like grape juice.
We Sincerely Appreciate all your time spent on doing these tests and then posting on TH-cam .
It’s not easy to do .
And this was done with care .
I’m sitting here with a new can of the Mil Spec CLP ( the gun store salesman recommended), and I’m ready to CLP my shotgun.
I just wanted to see what folks are saying before I apply this product to the shotgun.
Better safe than sorry haha .
Well I’m sold now .
Sure I have faith in what the salesman had said but a second opinion by someone who actually used the product , gives me piece of mind .
I’m ready to CLP the weapon now .
Again - I sincerely Thank You for taking the time to post this .
Very Very Cool 🤠
Thanks for watching! I hope you have good success with MIL-SPEC Breakfree!
Nice comparison/test. My friend gave me a bottle of Break Free decades ago when he was serving on the USS Nimitz. He told me it was a new product that they were using and that I should try it. Been using it since then and I've been satisfied with it's performance. Thanks for the informative video.👍🏻
Thanks for watching Chopper Mike!
I've done similar tests with similar results using IMR powder. One thing I notice with CLP is if you clean your gun with it, if you disassemble in a week, your gun might look dirty again. That's because CLP is always doing a little more cleaning even after it looked clean initially. I really like it for corrosion protection too. The Break Free brand is cheap and virtually odorless so it's my go to.
Thanks for watching! I also tested if CLPs can "season" metal over time:
th-cam.com/video/kRnEmq-I6pc/w-d-xo.html
It's not cheap, a 4oz.can is around $8 bucks whereas I can get a 10oz. can of Rem-Oil for the same price. That's a 6oz. difference.
Direct from the Magdad laboratories - CLP and the wonders of this product! Great video! I have used CLP in the black can for years. I will have to pick up some of Mil Spec. Thanks!!!
Thanks Robert! I've been using the black can to lube my garage door rollers for years!
A three way theater would be interesting to say the least.
I hope you do it as I for one would be interested in seeing the results.
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks David!
@@357magdad would like to see if you have any different results that project farm had. He is crazy with the testing. th-cam.com/video/fibRewlndLg/w-d-xo.html
Good info... tradition of #9 is just hard to beat... heck my A5 "The Meat Axe" - I had ceramic coated years ago... I'd duck hunt all season with it...only take it from the floating gun case to hunt.. once season was over.. clean and put it up... still looks new 😊 oh I did clean during the season this one time after retrieving it from the bottom of the lake😳 Man, I was so tickled to have found it..and I just had to clean it and love on it a little...🤠👍 good stuff Magdad!
Thanks Vic! Glad you were able to retrieve it!
For all my time in the service the only CLP used was Break Free CLP in small non aerosol containers. It was great stuff. Loved the smell too! 😂👍. Great comparison...
The CLP in the black can and the new MIL-Spec both have no noticeable odor. The stuff in the black can was not very effective vs burnt gun powder. Maybe the gave you guys "the good stuff"?
@@357magdad We had small black plastic bottles about 2 ounces...
As long as there are new products that continue to compete then ratings like yours will be valuable. I hope you will do an eval of those leading three. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
The concept of an all-in-one product is very popular - especially with new shooters.
I do like the smell of Hoppe'6 solvent I had a bottle leak al over in my barrel cleaning kit and could smell it for months in the shop
They used to make Hoppes air fresheners! I think you can still find them on ebay!
It its great that you have done extensive clp reviews/ Would you consider doing a conclusion , round up type video of all your findings over the years. Make a list of all you have tested in order of cleaning ability, corrosion protection, lubrication quality. Rate them in order of your findings.
Ballistol, Clenzoil and MIL-SPEC Break Free are the only CLPs I've tested that have been able to dissolve burnt powder almost as well as Hoppes #9.
Very interesting video. I have had good results with both products, CLP and Hoppes. Ballistol is not as common in this area as the other products. Interesting how Hoppes formula is so effective after about 100 years or more in the market.
Thanks Pat! It's hard to beat Hoppes #9!
Excellent Clinical Diagnosis Professor 357 :]
Thanks D&R!
I can tell you outside of using an ultrasonic cleaner, Hoppes is the best cleaner imo and CLP is an economical all around product. Clenzoil is hands down the best corrosion protection lubricant I’ve used. I was a gunsmith in humid South Florida for almost 30 years and Clenzoil was the best rust inhibiting product other then applying the thick sticky spray coating of shooters choice rust prevent. Shoot safe and shoot straight. ✌️
It is hard to go wrong with Hoppes #9!
@@357magdad Amen!
Cool comparisons 👍 thanks for sharing this with us. Very interesting
Thanks for watching!
I will subscribe and wait for the Ballistol vs MIL-SPEC Break Free CLP comparison!
Thanks for subscribing Ted! Check out my Ballistol and CLP test playlist!
Another good comparison. No.9 has all been my favorite but it would be cool to see the comparison of your top 3 solvents in a head to head challenge
Thanks! It is on the "to-do list"!
When I was a company armorer I had a spray bottle of clp I would spray all of the weapons with it black stuff would seap out I love the stuff
Thanks for watching!
Ballistol vs Break Free would be good!
Do you melt and cast your own boolits? If so, I'd be interested in seeing your process. Your older videos for reloading .357 are some of my favorites!
I don't cast my own bullets. I've been using copper plated and the new polymer coated bullets.
Not so much what you use as it is to actually use something..........The reason so many Old Timers that have guns from the 40s & 50s and they still look great is because they cleaned and lubed them after use......The standard Hoppe's solvent and oil will keep your guns in tiptop shape for a lifetime.........I've spent many days hunting in the snow or rain and as long as you get them dried out thoroughly and recoated with lube once dry you won't have a problem...................Same reason the tools I used when I worked in Structural Steel still look great even though they've seen a thousand times more use than the average homeowner tools ever will.........Simple cleaning and lubing will keep tools and guns in great working order for a lifetime.
100% True.
To quote TH-cam gunsmith Mark Novak - "Do the maintenance!"
I learned from my father and uncles to pronounce Hoppes correctly 40 years ago. How did they and their friends know then, with no internet, and so many today don’t? Probably from speaking to the counter men at the gun shops we frequented. They probably learned the proper pronunciation from the Hoppes reps they dealt with.
Just an observation. Internet - wonderful..? Sure it is.
Also.., not so wonderful.
I mentioned the pronunciation, because I've had viewers comment "correcting" me.
@@357magdad ….
No worries. I’m just becoming a cranky old man.
@@357magdad Can't go wrong with the manufacturer's pronunciation. Glad you threw that in there!😂😂
Great test always helpful Information! Thanks 😊 🙏
Thanks Mike!
I use that breakfree clp mil spec on my glock 43x it works great I also have a bottle of proshot clp
Thanks for watching! The MIL-SPEC Breakfree performed well in my tests.
yes,a head to head comparison is due. thanks!
I've got some CLP content planned for 2023!
I use Hoppe's #9 on the inside of the barrel, and Break Free on the outside and moving parts. The only time I would use WD40, if ever, would be inside of a shotgun barrel. Don't make much difference in there. But this is just me!
I pretty much do the same. Hoppes #9 for the barrel and cylinder and one of the many good CLP's out there for the rest of the revolver.
Enjoyed the comparisons now do the head to head comparison
Thanks Steve!
Should try Rimfire Blend by Bore Tech. Still tryna find a bottle to try. Do have a sample CLP by OTIS.
It looks like that rimfire blend might be discontinued.
@@357magdad so will the Hoppe' s #9 bore cleaner be good enough?
@@lawrencehawk5179 Hoppes #9 to clean the bore and any good CLP to lube and protect!
Just used Break-Free Mil Spec CLP on a brand new AR-15 build (never loaded with ammo yet). I also have Hoppe's 9. I guess the CLP is good enough? I was thinking to also use Hoppe's 9 to oil it. I'm thinking it's overkill?
Hoppes # 9 is used to remove powder residue from the barrel.
Hoppe’s gun oil is nothing more than mineral oil. It is a poor lubricant, poor corrosion inhibitor and also freezes solid. CLP is better in every way.
@@chad6444 I didn't use Hoppe's gun oil. I used Hoppes #9 bore cleaner.
@ Understood - I was replying to the question about using Hoppe’s to oil in addition to the CLP.
Good info. We all know Chuck is the brainchild behind these videos.
Chuck is like a Sith Lord!
@@357magdad definitely.
You just sanded the steel? No Flitz? And where’s Chuck?
Chuck was takin' a nap!😴
Great video. I rotate a little among gun cleaners and lubes but the one's Ive always used (and prob always will) are the ones that have been around a long time. Not gonna switch to some of the newer ones who claim to have revolutionized gun maintenance personally. The next new one might be called "Breakcleanzefreethrough." And leaning towards just going with the best CLP since Im getting a little more lazy. I've always thought Breakfree was prob the best all around but was toxic and needed to be more careful with it. As opposed to Ballistol, which might not be quite as good but is very good and doesnt harm anything. Can apply it to my stocks, and furniture, lol. Might be coming to a point where I have these two only, depending on application, and maybe a copper solvent for rifles. And prob something else just in case, lol.
So far Clenzoil, Ballistol and this MIL SPEC version of Break Free are the only products I've tested that can truly "do it all".
@@357magdad I actually just got some BreakFree Mil Spec (first time) and going to give it a go soon. Trying to decomplicate what I've been doing for a long time, lol. I do believe pretty much all the gun cleaning products, lubes, etc. work good but there still is enough difference in them where there is a best one or two depending on what you are doing. Im cleaning shotguns and pistols regularly and rifles occasionally. Appreciate your review magdad.
@@allbee83 Let me know what you think of it!
@@357magdad Will do.
Try Seafoam Deep Creep! It's my go-to
I'll add it to the list!
Ballistol is god level, does all and dirt cheap. Just don’t get it into the firing pin mechanism.. and remember to wipe the frame clean. It’s too oily and smelly tho
Check out my latest CLP showdown:
th-cam.com/video/4Hfg3uA89t8/w-d-xo.html
Check out Project Farm. Ballistol is a poor lubricant, poor corrosion inhibitor and also freezes solid. Not to mention the stink. There’s a reason the German army dumped it nearly a century ago. Oh and Hickok 45 doesn’t use it anymore. He switched to Lucas years ago. The can of Ballistol in his videos these days is nothing but a paid product placement. He talks about his switch to Lucas in one of his Glock review videos.
Thank you, it help me protect my pistol better.
I'm glad my review was helpful!
@@357magdad ; your reviews are always helpful to me unless I have tried the products before your review. You are my favorite TH-cam videographer out there.
@@gayle525 Wow! Thanks!
I use Rem-oil have you ever tested it? Thanks for the video!
I have!
th-cam.com/video/f5zLxoE10FI/w-d-xo.html
I don't seem to need any CLP solvents or oils, since I can't find any 357 mag ammo to buy, but that's another video lol
I haven't been to the range since early March of 2020!
@@357magdad Same here
Excellent testing! 👍
Thanks!
I believe it's protect, not preserve. But could be wrong. Great video
Thanks for watching Chris! The label on the can says, "cleaner, lubricant, preservative" 😉
@@357magdad Ah I see! Lol...I know all companies define clp as different ways with that last P. Some companies label it as protect but honestly preserve or protect is semantics I guess as both are similar. Hey bud have you tried the Lucas CLP? I've heard a couple guys swear by it and had used break free clp for years and prefer the Lucas over the break free clp. Something to maybe check out sometime! I have used neither yet so I was trying to decide lol. I appreciate this video! 🍻🍻
@@cwatson42785 Check out my review of Lucas Extreme Duty CLP!
th-cam.com/video/M_f2edj9pto/w-d-xo.html
HEAD TO HEAD 🔥👍🔥
Lucas CLP vs. Break Free CLP please!
Thanks for watching! I did a review on Lucas Extreme Duty CLP
th-cam.com/video/M_f2edj9pto/w-d-xo.html
Have you tried fiendoil they are out Ohio
I have not. I'll have to keep an eye out for it!
☺️☺️😍
yeah..... just make some Ed's Red at home for pennies an ounce and forget every wonder CLP that comes down the pike. add some real lanolin (couple ounces per quart) and maybe some amyl acetated (used in perfumes) for odor. you can laugh at all your friends who pay $5 or more per ounce for the latest and greatest heavily advertised CLP. Be warned tho... if your friends try it and know you make it? They will come up with every excuse in the book for why they need a quart or two of yours and can't make their own.
Check out my Ed's Red video:
th-cam.com/video/oeq7u0G4MZg/w-d-xo.html
I don't shoot guns. But I enjoyed the video. :)
Break Free has a product called "Collector Long Term Protectant". I wonder how well it would protect tools in a humid climate?
@@357magdad Interesting question. I have some stuff called T9, I think - that is supposed to be good but I never think to use it. And it was damn expensive.