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- SURRON DIY 29kW/80V FRAME-UP BUILD FROM SCRATCH - THE DEFINITIVE HOW-TO GUIDE:
0:00 - Introduction
0:38 - Cost Analysis! And Components
8:44 - Cons - Why Not DIY Build a Sur-Ron?
10:27 - Pros - Why DIY Build a Sur-Ron?
13:15 - Parts List - Start Of Build
14:35 - Parts List - End Of Build (4 Months Later)
30:16 - Build Sheets and Wiring Schematic
31:36 - Wiring Harness Layout
38:25 - The Actual Build Video!
38:57 - Domino Throttle Wiring
41:07 - Frame Has Arrived!
44:00 - Frame Parts Ready to Install
49:40 - Frame Bearings & Bushings Included
50:41 - Seat Installation
53:38 - 2nd Day Assembling
55:42 - Steering Tube Bearing - Not Fun
1:05:19 - ECD Wrap Arrives
1:06:39 - KO RS Motor Arrives
1:09:51 - Warp9 Stuff Arrives, Fork Install
1:12:24 - 6AWG Harness & QS8
1:14:21 - X-9000 Controller Installation
1:16:45 - First Power-On Test
1:20:14 - "New" Warp9 Chain Drive Looks Used
1:21:57 - Linkage & Triangle: Ali vs. Warp9
1:25:36 - Jackshaft/Swingarm Installation
1:29:13 - 3:45am on a Tuesday in February...
1:30:13 - Installing The Wrap
1:36:36 - Milk Racing wheels delayed...and delayed...
1:39:20 - Magura Brake Install, Cockpit
1:46:59 - Drilling Out The Magura Brake Disc
1:47:20 - Milk Racing Arrives... After 9+ Weeks
1:49:43 - One month later...Warp9 Wheels Here, Can Finish
1:53:33 - Finally Together!
1:55:08 - Renthal R1 Chain Install / Cut / Cleaning
1:56:52 - 90/100 - 16 Tire Clearance
1:57:53 - Beauty Shots
1:58:20 - Very Slow, Cautious First Test Runs
1:59:13 - Initial Riding Impressions
First: Sorry this video, again, is (just a bit) long! Tried to make it as brief as possible but it covers the 4-month process of researching, finding components, and DIY building my 29kW, 80v monster Surron.
HEADLINE SPECS:
Battery - 22S9P/Samsung 40T/80V nominal/92.4V fully charged/36Ah/2880Wh
Controller - EBMX X-9000 v2
Motor - KO RS (EBMX XLB-60 coming sometime)
Peak Power: 315A @ 92.4v, 29.1 kW
Top Speed: ?
Range: +/- 80km
Cost: Way more than I planned
HELPFUL DOWNLOADS
Battery case 410mm.STL:
drive.google.com/file/d/1voKe...
Surron parts catalog / exploded parts diagram:
drive.google.com/file/d/1s1f2...
All Surron docs:
drive.google.com/file/d/11Nqe...
COMPONENTS USED FOR THE BUILD
Frame:
www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
Swingarm:
www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
Subframe:
www.aicmotorsports.com/produc...
or
www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
Controller - EBMX X-9000 v2:
chargedcycleworks.com/product...
Battery - DIY Components:
coolwatts.co
Motor - KO RS:
chargedcycleworks.com/product...
Wheels - Warp9:
chargedcycleworks.com/product...
Wheels - Milk Racing:
milkracing.com/product/19-16-...
Brakes - Magura MT7:
r2-bike.com/MAGURA-Disc-Brake...
Rotors - Magura MDR-P:
r2-bike.com/MAGURA-Rotor-MDR-...
Magura QM46:
www.bike24.com/p2773080.html?
VonkatTenFive shock:
chargedcycleworks.com/product...
Manitou Dorado forks:
chargedcycleworks.com/product...
Renthal R1 420 chain:
www.ebay.com/itm/404548058194?
Wrap - CCW/ECD:
chargedcycleworks.com/product...
Warp9 stuff-
Primary chain drive:
lithiumpowersports.com/produc...
Triangle:
lithiumpowersports.com/produc...
Linkage:
lithiumpowersports.com/produc...
Direct stem mount:
chargedcycleworks.com/product...
NOTE: FULL COMPONENT LIST LINKS in pinned comment!
Too long for description here.
I'm adding chapters to make the video easier to navigate. If you want to skip ahead to the building process clips, or when she's finished, feel free - I know it's long.
Please leave comments and questions; I'll try to answer all of them.
Thanks for watching!
My old channel, with 72v BBSHD and Tangent Ascent videos:
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COMPONENTS USED FOR THE BUILD
Frame:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006165328414.html
Swingarm:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006176817139.html
Subframe:
www.aicmotorsports.com/products/bb-00-0004-32?_pos=1&_sid=597bfaf73&_ss=r
or
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006165450460.html
Controller - EBMX X-9000 v2:
chargedcycleworks.com/products/ebmx-x-9000-controller
Battery - DIY Components:
coolwatts.co
Motor - KO RS:
chargedcycleworks.com/products/ko-moto-rs-motor-upgrade?_pos=1&_sid=977cd1a24&_ss=r&variant=43500773376216
Wheels - Warp9:
chargedcycleworks.com/products/powder-coated-painted-16-19-complete-wheel-tire-combo-for-surron-warp9?_pos=15&_sid=4f213b553&_ss=r
Wheels - Milk Racing:
milkracing.com/product/19-16-surron-off-road-wheelset/
Brakes - Magura MT7:
r2-bike.com/MAGURA-Disc-Brake-MT7-Pro-HC-SET
Rotors - Magura MDR-P:
r2-bike.com/MAGURA-Rotor-MDR-P-220-mm-6-hole
Magura QM46:
www.bike24.com/p2773080.html?
VonkatTenFive shock:
chargedcycleworks.com/products/vonkat-tenfive-shock-for-surron-talaria-segway?_pos=1&_sid=5b6051f2f&_ss=r&variant=43813575557336
Manitou Dorado forks:
chargedcycleworks.com/products/manitou-dorado-expert-fork-for-sur-ron?_pos=8&_sid=6e46aae27&_ss=r
Renthal R1 420 chain:
www.ebay.com/itm/404548058194?
Wrap - CCW/ECD:
chargedcycleworks.com/products/surron-full-wrap-graphics?_pos=2&_sid=4d67f0ecd&_ss=r
Warp9 stuff-
Primary chain drive:
lithiumpowersports.com/products/warp9-kmc420-oring-primary-belt-to-chain-conversion-kit-surron-lbx?variant=43977183559898
Triangle:
lithiumpowersports.com/products/warp9-rear-suspension-triangles-surron-x-segway-x260?variant=42653012754650
Linkage:
lithiumpowersports.com/products/warp9-surron-segway-rear-suspension-linkage-riser?variant=43207239991514
Direct stem mount:
chargedcycleworks.com/products/warp-9-transformer-direct-bar-mount?_pos=1&_psq=direct+stem&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Bars - Renthal 603-01-BU Windham/Reed:
www.amazon.com/dp/B000GV4JRI/ref=pe_386300_440135490_TE_simp_item_image
Wolf Tooth 6mm headset:
www.amazon.com/dp/B089QVX7KQ/ref=pe_386300_440135490_TE_simp_item_image
Domino throttle:
fasterbikes.eu/en/accessories/throttles/203/domino-premium-full-twist-grip-throttle
Wiring harness:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005209786981.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.568.63871802cZ4Gsg
Frame components - brackets, etc:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003985000058.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003988061573.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003980667305.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003985013779.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005003128077.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005775665724.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005803352416.html?
Axle spacers:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004997211032.html?
58T sprocket:
www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6PGBCN1/ref=pe_386300_440135490_TE_simp_item_image
Battery lid/cover:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005092509457.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005881647924.html?
Numberplate - stock:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004989422795.html?
Numberplate - ODI:
www.ebay.com/itm/126136679763?
Key/lock set:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006156899111.html?
Horn delete plate:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005549229367.html?
Headset bearings:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006039079790.html?
Plastics:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005903321207.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005898938942.html?
Fenders:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005000447059.html?
Rear inner fender:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005000331111.html?
Bash guard:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005538796514.html?
Seat:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005968725487.html?
Pins:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005760677585.html?
Seat cover:
www.amazon.com/dp/B0BFG1LYJ1/ref=pe_386300_440135490_TE_simp_item_image
Stock axles:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002666690477.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005724721592.html?
Kickstand:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006089567707.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005681952839.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006227696337.html?
Footpegs / brace / holders:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005927379751.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006053650777.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004496954691.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004427694081.html?
DC/DC converter:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005440548685.html?
Titanium bolts & washers:
www.aliexpress.com/item/32948605411.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004233742333.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/32948605411.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004155578334.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003569393128.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005809163668.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005517859389.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004217321663.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004478110769.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003606151762.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004439171210.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/4000504478998.html?
Titanium bolts & hard-to-find hardware:
titaniumsurron.com/
Spacers/collars:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005962614409.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005302421509.html?
Rear caliper bracket:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006175672845.html?
Crappy Surron hardware kit:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005246094447.html?
Lights/switches/USB (OEM):
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005339146356.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004997178770.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003133526640.html?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005091784066.html?
Tail light bracket:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005300706583.html?
Aluminum center console trim:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004954532862.html?
Horn:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005747903005.html?
Triangle/linkage (Ali):
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003505722861.html?
DNM shock:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005545390261.html?
Titanium jackshaft bolt:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006285912827.html?
Titanium axle:
www.ebay.com/itm/115544836991?
CNC Aluminum jackshaft:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006132396108.html?
Stock jackshaft:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005115072833.html?
92.4v charger:
www.aliexpress.com/item/32900226676.html?
6AWG harness & QS8:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006347385226.html?
1mm front rotor spacer:
www.bike24.com/p2225514.html
Motor tensioner cam:
segronuniverse.com/products/oem-motor-tensioner-plate?_pos=1&_psq=Tensi&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Upper controller bracket:
segronuniverse.com/products/oem-controller-upper-mounting-bracket?_pos=1&_psq=Upper+&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Also, generally good sources for hard-to-find Surron parts:
surron.ca
segronuniverse.com/
hahaha, very nice part liste !!!
Two hours of information and knowledge with no wasted space. Thank you for the obvious labor of love put into both the video work and the bike.
Thank u so much! I tried to edit it down as much as possible, was worried it's still way too long in this era of 20 sec tiktoks. The bike rips, was definitely worth the work. Taking her out this weekend!
Absolutely loved this video. Just sold my surron not that long ago to buy a truck but i miss having one so much. Ive been looking into building one myself to save money once i get a job. This was so informative. Great video bro plz keep posting!
Thanks! I'd buy your frame sooner rather than later, just have a feeling they might not be selling them separately forever. I'm already getting parts for a 2nd build, decided to make a street-focused bike with primary and secondary belt drive and supermotos.
Good luck with your build!
Outstanding Job Sir!!!!! That's exactly how I thought it would cost.... Well done.... Love watching mods.
@@robertsilva5041 Thanks very much. Almost 3000km on the bike now, it's incredibly fun.
@@CoolWatts I hope there's some test ride videos. One guy got his e bike up to 100 mph 😲😲😲
Really amazing job on the video and build. Really enjoyed watching/ listening to this on my walk today. Can’t wait to see more.
Thanks so much! I wish this video had existed when I started my build in November. Hope it helps!
@@CoolWatts haven’t bought one yet lol. I’m gathering all kinds of info first to see which route I want to go. Again this video was great and do appreciate all the info.
Was I the only one absolutely vibing to that intro song, that shit was 🔥
Thanks man! I actually spent a lot of hours on that intro - finding good music, choosing the right shots, and editing it to sync with the song. Not a professional editor, so it took some trial and error. Glad it was noticed!!
very information deserves way more subs and likes
1000km /1 MONTH UPDATE --
Now that I've got just under 1000km on this build, thought I'd do an update on how it's performing for those who might be considering doing the same. I'll go over several areas of the build and how they're doing.
FIRST: holy crap, this thing is fun as fack! As an old BMX/ motocross rider, this little bike really brings back the fun and excitement I remember from my YZ80/YZ250 riding days. Light, small, but handles great and fast AF. Totally worth the time, work, and cost to build it.
I'll go over some of the individual components and how they're holding up:
- 3D-printed PETg battery case: despite what some "experts" 🤣 predicted, that the case would crumble under use, it's holding up perfectly. Granted, as someone well into their 50s, I'm not Jett Lawrence doing 70ft. triple jumps. But I've taken her multiple times on a nearby MX track, and trails with some jumps, and the case has so far held up. I did put a 1mm sheets of rubber under the pack, and 1mm rubber inside under the cell blocks, which probably helps. Still gonna get a V3 made of my metal cases, which will fit my 22S pack, but so far the PETg box hasn't 'crumbled' under spirited use.
- Battery pack: This 80v Samsung 40T pack is performing absolutely f'n awesome. Yes, if I had to do it again I would definitely have spent the extra 400 euros (tiny considering full build cost) and gone with Molicel P45B. Absolutely. But all Molicel were sold out in Europe when I did the pack build, and in fact they were sold out almost 5 months! Anyway, the 40Ts (and Ant BMS) are performing flawlessly. See pics - the max voltage deviation between groups is two THOUSANDTHS of a volt. After hard running for 30min, cell temps were only 24C! (Ambient was about 22C.) And BMS was only 26C. Amazing. Max voltage drop I'm seeing under heavy load is 6-7v, which ofc would be better with the P45Bs. And even though I'm 'limited' to about 315A/29kW - and a P45B pack would provide 400A/35kW - I've never felt the need for more power.
- Magura MT7 brakes: this I've found is a controversial one. Some love em, some hate em. This is my 3rd Magura MT build. For my use, my riding - they are absolutely great. Great stopping power, progressive and predictable, no fade. BUT - I'm learning to use the X9000 Regen braking more and more, which supplements the MT7s. And I'm not street riding 70mph with frequent high speed stops. I'm sure there are use cases where these would be inadequate, and who knows, maybe in the future I'll swap them for moto brakes. But so far I'm totally happy with them.
- Manitou Dorado & Vonkat TenFive: I absolutely LOVE the suspension setup on this bike. Yes the dorados are MTB forks and can flex a little bit. Yes 29kW and a 65kg bike + rider is pushing them beyond their design. But I had them on my Kuberg FreeRider in 2017, loved them then and still feel the same. Vonkat also is working great. Again, if I was doing 70ft. triples or had the Glen Helen vet track next door, probably I'd feel the need to upgrade. But for my riding, this setup really works great.
- Bridgestone Battlecross X30 tires: I mentioned in the sound video, the traction from these things is amazing. They grip so well, then when you start to break traction, it's totally predictable and progressive.
- EBMX X-9000 V2: Smooth as butter, and laughs at the power I'm throwing at it. My 29kW isn't even making this thing breathe hard. After that same 30min hard ride, the X9 was 24C, barely 2 degrees above ambient! Amazing. Love, love this controller.
- KO RS motor: Surprised at how torquey and smooth it is. I understand that XLB-60 is the state of the art, and planning to upgrade to one, but I'm really impressed by the power and torque this little RS is putting out. The max temp I've seen after hard riding was 41C, which is both impressive, and shows I'm not riding hard enough! 🤣
- W9 primary chain drive: great off road, but loud and vibrat-y on road, with really annoying resonant frequencies at certain speeds. See below about street vs dirt riding.
12/19/29kW Difference: See the video I shot on this trail, at first I kept it maxed at 19kW. But now after over 100 runs here, I have enough experience to use the full power. Still gotta be careful, I really don't want a Rapid Deceleration Event into a tree. Noticed some interesting differences about the three power levels:
12kW: very fun, feels safe and predictable. You can totally pin it out of corners and on straights, without crazy wheelspin. Nice to be able to use 100% of the power and not have overly sensitive throttle.
19kW: great everyday setting, still predictable and progressive throttle response, but with definitely more of a kick out of corners. Very fast but not scary (most of the time).
29kW: holy fack. Absolutely nuts, in a good (and terrifying) way. I can be going 55kph on dirt or pavement and it'll do a violent power wheelie if you're not careful. On that trail in the video, I was powering out of a hard packed dirt corner, got on it, and the bike wheelied out of the corner while leaned way over! I was smiling so big and laughing my ass off! More power is definitely more fun. But again, gotta be careful bc you can easily get into trouble with that much power.
Street vs. Dirt use: I've found that, in general, I really hate street riding. Don't like riding together with traffic at road speeds, and don't like riding on the shoulder at moped speed, at the mercy of distracted drivers looking at Instagram. For a long trip on twisty rural roads, I've got high performance cars for that. Just not a road biker, for me it's unreasonably dangerous. And after riding the Ron on both, I see this absolutely a perfect little dirt bike. Yes, you can kludge/adapt it for street use, but it'll always be a dirt bike. I got a set of supermotos from Milk, but now I'm doubting if I'll really use em. Plus, the W9 chain drive is really annoying on the road. Ideal solution is to have 2 Surrons: one for the dirt and one set up for road use.
V2 Already in the Works: I'm already gathering parts for V2 of this build, for a project next winter. Blue XLB-60, blue heatsink, and I have a set of blue anodized 16 19s from Milk. And, was planning a P45B pack with 525A BMS. But with how great this pack is performing, it's really not necessary to build another pack. Yes, 12% more capacity and less voltage sag would great, and yes, 35kW is cool for 'bragging rights', but honestly 29kW is plenty for me.
Saw you at piskovnya, nice bike)
Super cool content, pls keep doing it! 👍🔥
I've been looking for something exactly like this, thank you! Esp. for the detailed parts list, that's just solid gold right there. You da man!
Thanks for the feedback! Glad it helps. Post your build when it's done!
WOW i can learn so much from you. Very impressive.
Thanks! I learned a lot from other Surron owners, and from Micah Toll when I started building batteries. Just trying to help a little bit, for those considering building from scratch.
Great video and I appreciate your huge effort. Had to laugh because one of your pluses was that you don't have to replace parts and have a lot of extra parts laying around but the number of times you were saying that you bought this part but the got this part like wheels and such. The loud noise is definitely coming from the primary chain.
Yeah, definitely have some spare parts laying around due to upgrading during the build process! But they'll be put to good use; I decided to build a 2nd bike for street use. Expensive hobby! 😭
This is freaking amazing! Thans a ton :D
Thanks!!
Man, I wish you were my neighbor :) I would help you anytime (for free of course) just to have the opportunity to 1) work with such an enthusiastic and systematic person and 2) learn. I upgraded almost everything on my Chinese 6kW e-bike (tyres, rear shock absorber, controller, Brembo brakes + custom mounts, wider brake discs, built-in 3.3kW charger, brake levers, bi-led headlights, Android auto display, etc. ), but that's nothing compared to your build. I look forward to your next videos! Have a nice day!
@@mario_on_e-odin2.0 Thanks so much! If you decide to build a Surron in the future, I'm sure you'll be able to easily succeed!
Dude, amazing post. This was just recommended to me since I'm researching an emoto purchase but I hope this goes viral for you!
Thanks!
Absolutely awesome build!
Thank you!! Of course, Nate's bike was the inspiration (*cough*directly copied from*cough*)! 1400km on it already, bike absolutely rips. So fun.
XLB-60 is probably in its future, but honestly even with the RS it still pulls like a freight train.
This bike wouldn't have happened without CCW, appreciate everything you guys are doing. Leaders in this field.
Edit: have you guys done a direct comparison between the XLB-60 and the KO Big Block? Thoughts?
incredible build🔥🔥🔥
Thanks!!
😎👍 That Suron is SICK ! Great work AMAZING⚡️✨
Thanks!
amazing video!!!! ty for sharing it mate
Thanks!!
I just went from wanting to get an eride pro to building my own surron. Great video and information. I’m inspired, thanks for the lesson🫡
Thanks man!! It's fun and totally worth the work. Just wrote up a 1 month/ 1000km update, will add it as a comment here. Post pics and video when your build is done!!
awesome build!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank u!!!! ⚡⚡⚡
So, embarrassed to say...
Holeshots near the end were only 15kW!
Was only 1st/2nd runs on bike, and X9000 app was set on defaults. Only later did I check and see level 3 was limited to 15kW. So what you're seeing here is about half the bike's power! 😂😂
You have done a titanic job with this video!
Dyakyu!) Couldn't have done it without your help, and great camera equipment!!
PS: I hope that doesn't mean it's going to be sinking soon! That is a compliment, right?!???
Why doesn’t Sur Ronster provide this much value & knowledge in his videos ?
Thanks! Probably 2 hour long vids aren't too popular! 😂 What I wonder is why he hasn't mentioned EBMX at all, or built a 35kW state of the art bike with EBMX parts. Strange.
Props to you. You had a vision and made it happen. 🤙 Sick build
Thanks! Riding the crap out of it!
@@CoolWatts I just ordered my first ebike the other day. I went with the Eride Pro SS 2.0. Im just going to order some warp9 pegs, bars and wheels for now with some wider tires 😀🤙
@@Shreddylife I think eride is definitely the most capable stock bike on the market now. Enjoy it!!
@@CoolWatts 🤙Hopefully its powerful enough to not want to spend more money for upgrades but I am sure you know how that goes.. lol
Hi, great video thank you for all this information!!
In the 3:45am part those white plastic also go between the swing arm and the frame? Because I installed those silver washers and I’m wonder if I need those plastic ones as well?
Thanks again!!
Thanks. No, as I remember, only the silver shoulder washers go in, no additional white plastic ones were used.
Great build tutorial, curious how much does it weigh? (might've missed it in the video)
About 10-11kg heavier than stock, due to battery & wheels.
You are really great at sourcing good quality for cheap and building an awesome looking bike. You should start a custom build business. I’m sure there’s a huge market of affluent buyers that would pay you $20K or more for a bike like this.
Thanks! But shipping bikes from Ukraine might be problematic 😂
@@CoolWatts You’d be surprised. Customers will pay for extra for fast shipping when their net cost is still significantly better. For example, I bought a Polygon mountain bike from BikesOnline that came in one big box with easy assembly instructions. Their shipping wasn’t cheap, but net it was still a few hundred dollars cheaper than a similarly specced bike shop brand. In your case, you might still be a few grand less expensive. For another example, Arctic Leopard air ships their full size dirt-bikes in a couple big boxes of easy to assemble parts.
Lastly, being a Ukraine based business will serve you extremely well in international markets. We want to support you!
Can you put the battery, motor, and controller on a stock surron and get the same power?
Yes.
Well the Big question is that's great and all. I definitely get it I've done the same but what would you sell your bike for that you put all that time and energy into. When i tell people what id sell my 32Kw build for they look at me like I'm crazy and supposed to sell it for less knowing that can buy what I built but again never mind what it cost you just like the Laffy Taffy guy now put your price on its value?
Good points - I think anyone who does a high-end custom Surron build like this, or yours, doesn't do it for resale. It's for personal satisfaction. I only recently took the bike on dirt and thru some jumps for the first time, and the ear-to-ear smile I had, and laughter, was well worth the $7k+ I spent on it, to me.
Now if I'd spent $16k, well, that's a lotta money for a Surron. But I'm sure for some owners it's well worth it.
@@CoolWatts Oh absolutely I feel the same definitely not ourt to sell my build but stiill need to put a value on it because although thats 7k in parts its allot in labor. My pack cost me about $1200 in cells but no doubt in my mind you cant buy a pack like ive made no prefab bus bars with nickel inserts or laser welded I use .2mm copper the entire coverage are of the cells wtth .15 nickel welded copper nickel sandwich Kweld I mean with heavy guage everything for max current flow no manufactured pack not even PL or Chi batteries can compare so thats Big savings there you gotta have an idea what youd value your bike at if someone came with worthy offer. Most cases never happens because what Ive learned about most of the ecommunity they all want the best for nothing . its about 10% of us that go all out on these builds and I get that everyone not doing it like that, anyway nice build Enjoy
Are these the link for all of the parts that you utilized? Or are some parts missing?
Links in the pinned comment are for EVERY part used!) took a while to do!
Are surron, talaria mx4 and eride pro ss frames pretty much the same?
Hi, no they're all quite different, as far as battery pack sizes and what accessories / components fit.
Idk man, I bought one for about 2.000 bucks stock with 500miles on it, couldn’t have been happier.
Dropping 16k on a toy, what do u do for living?
im not building a custom surron but shi it looks clean im converting a dirtbike frame 😉this looks clean tho fam
Thanks! I hope there's helpful info there, I spent 4 months making the video.
@@CoolWatts damn it turned out good tho!
+15000 $ !!!
What you did not mention is that the cost of your bike was actually higher because you did not add labor, and labor you said was a two-month deal. So that is about 6000$ per month, and therefore your bike needs to have 12000$ cost added to the price. So that cost you are showing us is the cost to you, minus cost for labor.
Yeah true! But I wasn't working on it all day every day. I think anyone looking at a DIY project understands they're providing their labor for free to achieve a lower cost than buying from a dealer.
Champ you are Right on the Labor but he is doing it for his self So the Joy of Riding the Bike will Balance that $12k out plus what he will make on Royalties from all the Videos that he made during the build and you can see that he is a very fruitful guy bc if he has something extra that he don't need he will resell it and that Helps him and others .. Plus like he said ....He will have the Pleasure of Enjoying something that he basically built from Scratch or Frame Up and it's a Helluva Hobbie that Sucks you in so Easily but finding parts can be a Headache A lot of the times bc basically all of the parts are coming from mainly China & Overseas...So that in itself is a Problem here in America that Needs Addressing and A lot of Americans would Love to Buy American Parts that don't take months to receive and leave the u feeling Nothing but Buyers Remorse...
@@CoolWattsWell Said 😂
The warp 9 is just glue, that’s how mine looked too brand new.
You could've saved even more money if you had converted 85cc dirt bike to electric