Making EASY carbon parts for GIZFAB. Carbon bonnet using the skinning wet lay method. Part 1
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- part 1 of a series of videos on Making Gizfab Micra lighter. carbon bonnet using the skinning wet lay method is a very simple way to make body parts!
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I would highly recommend EC's new thick release film. You lay it on top, vacuum pull and the layer peels off leaving you with a perfectly flat (no ripples) and shiny surface after one coat of epoxy, it cuts out a LOT of sanding as it's a very similar process to how you create carbon fiber sheets using glass.
I'll check it out!
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Meanest looking Micra I've ever seen! Carbon work impressive as always. Teaser for the wings and roof at the end as well 👍
theres got to be a teaser haha!
Great video. I've been thinking about doing this at some point. Some nice pointers about adding strength. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
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Really nice video, going to try this myself soon on my bonnet, not so much going for crazy lightness but a bit lighter than the steel original bonnet, I suppose this method would work fine if I wanted to go fibreglass + carbon, but I would use glass on the first few layers and then carbon on the last " final layer / show layer " Not decided yet if I want to go full carbon or partial good bit of price difference.
Great work
cheers good luck
It would look good if you powder coated the hood vents. Cool work and I learned a lot.
powder is extra weight lol. but agree
Defo. A coat of gloss black so they blend in better
I wanna do something similar to my 2022 Elantra, the hood weighs SOOOO much for such a small car. heavier than many of the V8 engine hoods that I've lifted. wouldnt mind doing trunk and then possibly each of the panels and doors. if I could save 80% of each part I am sure I would drop a couple hundred lbs (the parts feel way heavier than necessary even for being metal).
Can’t imagine how much drag that front end has now. Probably wiped out your weight savings at higher speeds
care to explain you train of thought?
@@RuskiWeldFab smooth is good for air flow. That surface “appears” anything but smooth.
explain golf balls.
@@RuskiWeldFab
The dimples on a golf ball enhance the Magnus effect, which is the lift generated by a spinning ball. The backspin created when the ball is struck causes a difference in air pressure on opposite sides of the ball. The dimples help optimize this pressure difference, allowing the ball to stay in the air longer and travel further.
So unless you’re planning on flying your car around the track, propelled by hitting it with a golf club, you’d probably be better off trying to follow the principles of pretty much all other winning motorsport. Make your car smooth.
Is it possible to use fibreglass bonnet as a negative? I don’t have anymore the metal 1 unfortunately. What is the best release agent for that? Also I wanted to ask are the corners of the material doesn’t want to curve up?
yes. i did my own bonnet of a fiberglass
you are good....very very good ith fibers....woww
Thank you so much 😊
Great when all the panel's are done but if doing factory fitting parts. *_This is just a mould_*
Could a “paddle roller” be used to help the resin penetrate and remove bubbles within the resin? Or is that not really an issue/could it damage the weave? I’ve seen people use them on fibreglass but not carbon.
Great video as usual. Always an interesting/educational watch
Yes rollers can help. But like you said always need to be careful no to damage the fabric
So u mold the carbon in the inside and outside of the hood and mate them together
yes
What kind of foam did you use for the cross brace reinforcement? Thank you! :)
I have the same question
Closed cell PVC foam I expect. He uses Easy Composites stuff mainly and that's the foam they sell for that purpose.
correct
How much material it's needed for the micra bonnet?
What kind of wax did you use and where did you get it from?? Thank you
Англия привет, а дорого у вас уголь стоит, и почему ты в вакумном пакете не захотел сделать, коасивее получилось бы
дорого и это другая технология
Hey, i know that guy...
Yeah a famous TH-camr and hunk of fillet in real life 😂
Sick
Pretty awesome isn’t it
I’m wanting to attempt this in the summer. How much resin in total did you go through making this and the front wings?
Looks sweet! What type of foam is used for the X strengthening part, Is it specific to composites and resins or just any old foam?
It’s a special high density foam. But I suppose any high density foam will work almost the same. In fact anything that can raise layers in between will work.
Ahhhh so you made these's for Edan
indeed
Top ! THANKS !where do you find such wide fiber? , Protect your lungs when you cut carbon fiber, think about your old days!
easy composites
@@RuskiWeldFab Thank's from France :)
Where did you get the foam?
everything from @easycompositestv
Question can you do over sanded 2K primer
Thank if you reply
Yes you can
How did you apply the PVA? Brush or spray?
well actually i applied it with a sponge. but can be brush or spray.
@@RuskiWeldFab oh nice, do you do 2-3 coats too? The quality of the surface after release looks good.
PVA always applied as a single coat.
Would you be interested in doing some parts for me sometime?
yeah can be arranged
@@RuskiWeldFab Can I get your email?
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4kg
Wear masks when cutting fiber, that stuff will kill you.
appreciate the support. will do
If you are not using vacuum pump the final strength would not be too different, my question is, why dont you use fiberglass which is much cheaper than Carbon?
looks. needed carbon look. also fimerglas has diffrent properties. not as flexible and heavier
Would it be possible to make parts of the suspension/steering in carbon fiber (like tubes,triangles...? would they endure the track days?
yes absolutely but that requires different level of engineering lol.
Wouldn't your part be a little larger in dimension than the original since it goes over the original? How do you compensate for this (extra 2 to 3 mm on each edge)?
You trim it 😎
@@RuskiWeldFab Got it. Considering it was a flat part to begin with. I was thinking of something with compound curves/body lines, or a hood from a 60's era car with more reinforcements underneath. Something that would have to line up with other panels. Ask a stupid question, huh?
@@annamckinney6622 old saying no question is a stupid question
Great video man, thank you! I plan on doing my e36 Bonnet. Wanted to ask the name of the product you used as your first layer, you mentioned something like Dialin? (not sure of spelling) i dont seem to find it on a google search.
its called diolen. has its limitations. doesnt like tight corners. www.easycomposites.co.uk/200g-22-twill-black-diolen-cloth
@@RuskiWeldFab Much appreciated sir, keep them videos coming
Nice video. I wonder after wet layer the carbon fiber and its cured. Can it be wetsanding afterwards and clear coat?
Yes, absolutely. you can finish it like any other carbon part.
@@RuskiWeldFab Thank you for your response and keep up the good work. Enjoyed watching them.
@@RuskiWeldFabQuick questions. When applying the PVA on the hood or fender, does it need to be sanded the clear coat out first or it is not necessary? Last question. After removing the carbon fiber from the hood or fender, will the PVA damage the paint, and can it be washed with soap afterward? Sorry, too many questions but I'm new at this. Have a good day.
Did you use a higher temp resin with it being a bonnet? Is it needed??
well. no we havent. and i personally dont think its needed if you have sufficient cooling. also its a good idea to apply reflective gold sheet on the inside.
Thank you very much for your contribution, there are no videos like this on the net.
I want to do this in my car.
Does the recipe raise temperature?
Can this ruin the paint on my car?
I have the bonnet with vinyl wrap which I would think would give it extra protection, but it is what scares me the most, damaging the original paint.
very informative
Glad it was helpful!
How to achieve more glossy flat finish?
lots of sanding, coating resin clear and polish. simples
@@RuskiWeldFab Thanks! You’ve inspired me to start thinking about making my own first aero package on my car, and actually I’d like to build one before going first time to the track next season 😄.
Already have a bunch of ideas and rules of a thumb to apply to really make it work. Seems to be much easier to work with composites than building a powerful engine and upgrading drivetrain, dealing with heat issues etc.
Sorting out suspension, geometry and aero seems to me more accessible.
OMG 2kg!!!?
2.2kg after all the reinforcements.
@@RuskiWeldFab it makes me want to do every panel on my cars lol. did you ever do a vid on carbon fenders?
what length roll did you use?
Nice work
Cheers!
No mould ace
yep!
Looks mega 👌
It does!
Thank you !
You're welcome!
Please identify the materials that you are using, don't just shake the can in front of the camera.
ill do my best.
Hes not a sales rep he does not need to
Just be happy hes genuinely happy to show you something