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So the bottom line is they are fairly equal quality filters. Both are rated for 20,000 miles, but anyone concerned with the health of their engine is changing the filter every 5,000 miles, so there should be no difference in performance between the two. For half the cost, the SuperTech is the clear win.
One made in USA for Mobil but didn't mention where Supertech was made. So if made in China, that would explain 1/2 the cost. A US company may own the name, but doesn't mean they are made in US.
As of 2023 that 5k is too long of an interval it is better to drop back down to 3500 or so because Direct Injection high pressure fuel pumps are good at diluting the oil especially for people that have short commutes and not much hwy time to burn off the excess fuel being introduced. Before Turbos and Direct injection 5k was perfectly fine and probably still is, but the longer these new engines are out they have learned a lot from them. My wife's 2020 Camry SE uses OW-16W and I do it every 5k, but after seeing what is happening with Honda accords right now with oil dilution I think I am going to shorten her intervals because she has a short commute. Now the Camry does not have Turbos and it does not have the carboning up issues because it has both Direct and Port injection systems. Seriosly if you own a Turbo charged engine with Direct injection shorter intervals are in your best interest:P
When looking at filtration you want to look at the total surface area of tbe filtering mat (in this case) micron rating, length, heigth, width, and thickness. Proper flow thru the rilter is the name of the game. You can put them on a test bench and pump oil thru them and test pressure and volumes per second as the oil flows thru them. You could also add contaminants to test the clogging resistance if you can.
LOL. The filter companies can't fool anyone anymore. They must know they're being watched. I see Fram has cleaned up their act quite a bit. Champion Labs has had the whistle blown on them too. BTW, I have used Wal-Mart Super-Tech motor oil in my cars for years. Buy it by the pail and use a pump to fill the car. Sold my last car with 475,000km (294,000mi), oil change every 10,000km (6200mi) and none of them ever burnt an ounce of oil. Used Wix filters.
I also use Walmart synthetic oil, made by the same company that makes the one for Amazon and others. Cheaper than the major brands and just as good, IMO.
Have found by experimentation, select brands,ie: (Dello, Rotella and Valvoline) hold oil pressure in summer better than many others.@@pedrofernandez8729
I continue to be impressed by the ST MP oil filters. For the price they rival big name filters. I use them and they work just as good as name brand. Good job as always whip👍
Very surprising. The only other test I would like to see run is the condition of them after a 5,000 mile service and also the used oil from exact model cars with same mileage. Excellent video.
That's because Walmart isn't actually making them. They contract that out to a known filter manufacturer who makes it for them. Could be Mann/Hummel, Purolator, Wix, Fram, etc.
@willjackson716 I hear you Have been using super tech for years in my 2007 ranger. Change every 3000 because mostly around town driving. 86,000 miles and uses no oil. If people would just learn how to read the specs on a bottle of oil. And compare thoses to they oem manual. They would then be educated. A bit of research is all that's needed.
For 20+ years, I have used Mobil 1 synthetic oil and usually a mobil 1, K&n, purolater. Or wix filter on all our vehicles. I would change oil and filter every 7000 miles. Thanks to lower cost, about a year ago, changed to supertech synthetic oil and filters. Difference is that i now do it about every 5000 miles. I figure it's better overall. I have been pleased. Last oil changes, i went to valvoline restore and protect on some higher mileage vehicles. However, i will stick with supertech filters
Thanks for the detailed analysis. I would go for the supertech filter changing it at about every 3,000 miles. I would not stretch it to 5,000 miles or more as recommended by the auto manufacturers. Automatic transmission fluid should be never changed in 2007 Toyotas? Worse for me is seeing the recommended automatic transmission changing requirement. My 2007 Toyota Corolla matrix recommends never changing the automatic transmission fluid. I did drain my automatic transmission fluid with my filter at about 5 quarts. I did locate and buy the required Toyota IV transmission fluid. I measured the fluid removed and replace the same amount. I did this at about 150,000 miles. The worse was the drained 5 quarts of fluid was solid black with no red color. The original Toyota IV fluid is a red color. The removed old fluid was black. Once the new 5 quarts of new fluid was added, the dip stick fluid was black with lots of red also. I repeated the transmission fluid 5 quart with filter replacement at about 200,000 miles. This time the dipstick fluid after was mostly red with a little black in the fluid. I can see why Toyota wants owners to never change the automatic transmission fluid. They can sell you another new Toyota after about 200,000 miles because the transmission has failed.
You're Welcome! Yep, manufacturers dont want your vehicle to last forever. They need to repair and sell cars to make money. I think a 30K to 50K transmission oil change is a wise thing to do. May your Toyota last you a long time😊 Thanks for Sharing👍
@wendyphillips5002 be very careful what dealers recommend on oil changes. Because if most of your type of driving is in town. There's more engine idle time at intersections. Oil gets dirty from the un-burned hydro-carbons/gas . When fuel is injected into the cylinder. There's a small area that fuel doesn't get completely burned. That's what gets absorbed into oil.plus. the engine going from cold to hot repeatedly breaks down the additives in oil. This is known as: viscosity/ thermo breakdown. Some times they mention that in oil commercials. That's what additives have to combat against.
These cutaway videos are a valuable source. I've been changing my oil for a while, never thought much about the construction of the oil filter or even much into the specific type of oil I've been buying. The Mobil 1 and Super Tech filter here are very similar, unfortunately the maximum protection filter wasn't at my store for my car so I went with the Mobil 1. Super Tech maximum protection is a good alternative. The Superior protection one however is similar to FRAM extra guard.. which is cheaply made.
I've been using Super tech filters for years. Never had any issues. I also used ST synthetic 5w20, but most if the time Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic is the same price, so i use Valvoline. But the filters are excellent. Change every 4800-5000 miles.
Kind of impressed by the Super Tech it's made in the United States. Walmart usually has all their crap made overseas and it's actually seems like a good filter especially for half the price of the mobile
Been doing a lot of research on this ST oil/filters as I’ll be using it in my wife’s car this week; like many of the comments on here say I to am impressed by the quality of ST oil & the filters. I think for half the price of Mobil & other major oil brands, it’s just incomparable! Thanks for this great video, and all your work I am a subscriber.
I've only used fram oil filters and Quaker State oil in my 04 silverado Z71 5.3. Still, everyday day work truck with 425,000+ miles all original engine except water pump at 380,000. Original trans also.
Ive always used Mobil 1 the most, others only if i cant get it, but when ive taken the valve covers off, it looks absolutely brand new. Synthetic is the way to go. Keep the oil changed and even the fram orange can works fine. Mine easily go 300K. Only now that i dont have salt and rust will the body last long enough. Any money the transmissions will let go and the engine still runs like new.
@@RetroCaptain definitely. I've always kept mine changed. Seems like after 250K and 15 years the seals probably get hard. On those -15° mornings it wouldn't move until it warmed up. Now we're up to 35° and the old girl won't move. I'm sure eventually it'll be idling to warm up when it's 70° and at some point no amount of warming up will help.
@@AmandaHugenkiss2915 Try draining off enough fluid to accept at LEAST two (2) full bottle worth of Lucas Transmission fix (it's like STP for automatic transmission). It helped mine as far as the banging noise at shifting but unfortunately the gear set is damaged so I had to park it. I'm thinking you might need 3 bottles. If the seals are hardened, there's another product that is said to be magic on old hard seals. AT-205 Re Seal. Maybe try the re seal first, and if that doesn't work, then the Lucas. I know the Lucas won't help tired hard rubber. It just makes the fluid a little thicker. After the 2 bottle worth in my small transmission, you can't tell. It looked the same as before and drips easy. It just "feels" a little more like "oil" than before. Regardless the thing will eventually be too difficult to live with and need replacing. Been there before and it's a bunch of work yourself and expensive if you hire a shop.
ST filters are made by Champion Labs in Clover SC Champion Plant. Champion Labs makes OEM Motorcraft, OEM GM on some applications, AC, Valvoline, AutoZone and the Mobil 1 filter.
In Canada the Mobil filter is $ 23 CAD. I will definitely check out the Supertech Brand' there is no reason by the examination done here that it won't work just fine for 5K miles. Awesome job on the review and video Thanks!
Meh! The key is, *Choose an oil and weight that's appropriate for your climate. *Check your fluids monthly. *Change your oil and filter every spring. "Corporate Marketing" is more BS than fact!
I have least almost all of my vehicles over the years. I only use the supertech products because if there's ever any issues those will happen long after I get rid of the vehicle. That's no knock on the product itself. The value is amazing I even use it in my. The value is amazing I even use it in my boat.
Wow what an excellent video! Very thorough, every possible component measured. I thought Supertech was just a cheap oil filter but that is not the case, it is a superior bang for the buck filter and the Mobil 1 you are basically paying for the name.
With the Mobil 1 you get 15% more filter area and what you are buying is a filter. Seems to me you get more flow and more life out of the Mobil 1. All of the other useless weighing he did has no effect on the ability of the filter to clean oil.
I've seen all these reviews prior to trying one, that I got on a crazy deal at a Walmart store. I only change about every 5k miles and went longer with full synthetic, this time I tried a high mileage conventional with my first Supertech filter and noticed that oil was blacker than usual after some miles. Usually, it stayed clear a LOT LONGER. This tells me it's not filtering as much. I think for standard 3-5k change, it's probably fine, or maybe my system just pulled out more gunk than before, but I'm going to try another to compare.
does the Supertek filter qualify for equal or better than OEM filters? I distinctly remember Honda rejecting a warranty claim on a motorcycle that was still under warranty that had a oil related engine failure. The owner put a chrome Chinese made oil filter on his still under warranty, Goldwing motorcycle. Honda rejected the claim because in the owners manual, it specifically states that the owner must use OEM parts..
Champ Labs makes the Supertech oil filters and the OEM ACDelco oil filters for GM, along with other filters. I think the MP version Supertech oil filters are equal to many OEM oil filters. If it voids the warranty it's best to use what Honda recommends then. Thanks👍
Looking over one of your other videos, I would like to see some way of seeing the amount of debris in the threads. Some filters do appear to have quite a bit from what I presume is the thread cutting process. Also consider that the threads are post filtration so any metal debris is heading straight to the engine. Perhaps once cut open you could screw a post into the filter over a white paper and see if any debris gets knocked loose.
Some filters may have some debris some may not, the best thing I can suggest is that before purchasing shake your filter and do a visual inspection. Clean the threads with a white tissue or cloth. Unless you run into a bad batch, 99% of the time the filters are fine.
Id still like to see how the oil pushes through each filter with each having different sizes and hole shapes. Because they look similar doesnt always mean they will perform the same.
I’ve used Supertec oil filters and full synthetic high mileage on all my three cars for twenty plus years. I just changed the oil in my 2000 Camry and for both filter and oil the cost was less than $24. All my cars are 150K plus miles. Maybe it’s because I own a Honda, Toyota and Mazda but I haven’t had any mechanical problems. I change oil every 5,000 miles or once a year.
Question. I change oil every 5,000 but with the filters saying 20,000, I only change every other oil change. I use ST synthetic oil. It's not the money for filters (who cares), it's the location and in the mid-winter change in an unheated garage. I'm still changing the filter 1/2 thru its stated life. Good or bad?
With the way things are constantly changing, I open up the boxes in the store to verify the insides are what they are supposed to be. I've seen some that say they have silicon anti drain back valves on the box but they are actually rubber. My son and I bought up all the Super Tech filters they had on the shelf for our cars (same ones) because of your videos. They were on sale for $3.40 a piece so we couldn't pass it up!
Jerks like you and your son are the reason why normal people go into Walmart and can't find the filters or oil we need in stock. There is already a trucking shortage and in rural towns it's every other week until filters and oil come back in stock. 🇺🇸🖕
@@MindsMouth When I buy oil filters at Walmart, I also open the boxes to ensure the correct filter is in the box. People have been known to take expensive oil filters and put them in a cheaper costing filter box.
ST had 86 sq inches of filter material compared to Mobil 1 had 100 sq inches. ST has 14% less filter material. Dont know if it matters if you change it at 5k to 7k. Thoughts?
I have become a fan of yours in past month and a half or so ,and I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate and respect all the work you put into your videos and I only have one question about oil filters and I was wondering about flow through them. Could some filters have too much restriction ? I know they have a bypass but could it be a problem and if so ,is there any way to test them for flow?
Not to worry, Frankie -- Modern oil filters are strategically engineered for best Cost-Per-Dollar filtering -- and they avoid internal restrictions as a matter of course. 1. Number and size of holes in Base Plates has increased. 2. Center Tubes have more holes and/or louvers. 3. Bulky Wire Screens eliminated, more room for pleats. Flow Testing by individuals is not gonna happen -- necessary equipment is too expensive, and the cost of training involved to operate the equipment and interpret the findings is prohibitive. I'm more concerned with Micron Ratings, and quality oil filters put their Micron Ratings ON THE BOX.
Louver cores and screen backed media would be more restrictive in my opinion. Micron capture rating goes up efficiency goes down. Can’t have the best of both worlds.
I change my oil aprox once a year by mileage. I dont mind spending a little more money on a good filter. When your spending 70 thousand on a truck, i sure the hell am not worried about 8-10 dollars more for filter.
@Whip City Wrencher my concern is that heating and cooling cycles over time could make the nylon brittle.. I don't know.. I haven't taken one apart or tested one.
@@obummer14-4 Yep, well here is one that I consider a cheap Nylon cage oil filter and it did okay after 6 K miles. th-cam.com/video/PyYiZaTHTQU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
I would not use a filter with a dented can. If it compromised and you end up with a leak or worse, a rupture, you’re really kinda screwed. Why take the chance? Both are nice filters I’d gladly use either. I like that neither of them went crazy with the glue (can you tell that is a pet peeve of mine) and use quality materials. My biggest problem with the supertech is that it is exclusively sold by Walmart. The Walmarts down here are bigger than some suburban shopping malls and twice as crowded. But it is a really nice filter.
I personally know a man that has used super tech oil and filters in his work car. He has just over 200,000 on it. Ithas ran fine and has no issues. Oil changes are he hays are around 4 to 5 thousand miles. He uses the synthetic oil. This was 5 years ago. I know use it in my vehicles. Thanks for the vedio
I know the engineers of the Mobil 1 designed the filter with proper flow characteristics, but those tiny louvres look very restrictive. For me, Supertech FTW.
The louvers on the M1 are fine. And, there's always significantly more louver openings than holes in a center tube. Always. If Whip shined a light source over the outlet opening it would prove those two points. When it comes to flow, no filter can flow more than the inner diameter area of the engine block filter mounting stud. So, the ST won't flow more than the M1.
@@GT-mn3bx YEP. I'm kinda partial to the Bosch Premium's "99% AT 20-Microns", rather than those who say "Greater Than 20 Microns". Yeah. I know. Picky, picky, picky -- 😁
In many ways you get what you pay for, good Quality oil and filter is cheap really, by comparison to rebuilding or replacing an engine, with modern engines the most unkind thing you do them is lack of proper servicing!! In some ways the supertech filter looks better than the mobil 1 filter!
Checked the flow test on another video. The filtering capacity between these two was the real difference. The Mobil 1 was able to filter out a significantly more amount of contaminants without sacrificing flow rate or pressure. The design of the M1 filter also trapped the contaminants in the filter media (where it's supposed to) versus getting stuck between the cap and seal, which will alter the flow path and either send through bypass or stop flow into the filter all together.
I would use either filter and feel good about it. I always use the OEM oil filter because that's the way my father taught me when I was a young "want to be mechanic." Bill
The Super Tech seems fine for the price, but I would never run a 20k mile oil change like that. These filters would most likely be "ok" for a 10k interval. But by that I mean change the oil every 5k and the filter every 10k.
ive used Orange filters all my 60 years and never one engine issue over millions of miles. Regular dino oil and Fram filter every 3000 miles and you are golden. If you cant be bothered to change your oil you arent a car guy anyway. Running a oil that can withstand 7k miles between changes while using a filter intended to be changed every 3k is asking for problems.
My wife has a Hyundai i10 , the cabin filter/ air con filter cost R236 for a brand called GUD , the other brand is called DUNLOP for R82, that was last year, i replaced it again 2 weeks ago & bought the Dunlop again & this time it costed R75, No issues at all.
Looking at the ADB and BPV design, the ST looks like it's made by Fram. It wouldn't surprise me since Walmart has been such a huge Fram partner for so long. The baseplate design is interesting. Wonder why they do that? I think the polymer cores are the way everyone should go. They flow better, do the job just fine, and have more than proven themselves over the years. Thanks for the vid!
Why would you buy an over elaborate oil filter if you change your fluid every 3500 miles? I buy the cheap ones. I have 135k miles on my 2005 Acura TL and it runs very very good. Very fast. Clean oil. Doesnt burn a drop of oil. In the early days, Cars didn't even have oil filters
I prefer the older Mobil1 oil filter that was built by Champ Labs & based on a Delco gold ,but the newer ones made by Mann &Hummel are good as well, but expensive....the SuperTech is basically a Delco blue ,it's a great filter at its price point & I got no problems using them, unless it's the ones that got the cardboard felt endcaps, won't use the Delco with felt endcaps either, I check the filter before it goes on or even in the cart 🛒
Hi Mark, I dont care for the felt/cardboard end caps either. I opened up an ST Supertech a while back with the felt endcaps and they weren't even glued on.
I would certainly say though based on that tear down I wouldn’t hesitate to use on of those super tech filters on a vehicle thatvis out of warranty or a little older if they had one that is compatible. As long as it’s made in America I’d use one.
I'd go with the Mobil More filter media I liked the bypass valve design better I also liked the ADBV better... tighter fit more streamlined more attention to detail $6 more added to overall cost of an oil change isn't much in that context. Your car's engine is far more expensive. Mobil is my choice here Nice comparison 👍 informative and interesting. Good stuff
The small diff in filter media area isn’t an issue at 3/4K mile oil changers,but a fairly dirty motor or tired motor with blowby contaminating the oil with carbon particles getting past worn rings during combustion could be an issue at the long advertised 20k mile oil & filter change interval possibly putting filter into dreaded bypass mode.
Damn, I've been buying the Mobil 1 oil filters for my Subaru and Honda figuring it was better. For twice the cost I can see that it is not and the two look fairly equal at best!
I have a 2013 Silverado with a 5.3 liter and now have over 207.000 miles on it. I only use Mobil 1 full synthetic with the Mobil 1 filter and change them both every 7000 miles religiously. Engine is starting to burn a quart of oil every 1400 miles and the performance isn't what it used to be....I can't complain considering the mileage.
i was in a pinch before a 1200 mile road trip and put mobil 1 5w-30 in my 2002 silverado (6.0 lq4) when it was around 196k miles. it burnt oil all the way and sounded like it was going to blow up. swap to the valvoline high mileage 5w-30. that’s what i’ve been running since new and it has kept my motor quiet, and never burns any. i change between 3-5k miles depending on when my service light comes on. the amount of moly in the valvoline stuff keeps the LS motors quiet.
MP10060 is $5.90 at my local Walmart. The Mobil1 M1-113a is $11.44. Try buying it at the parts store down the street and it's $17.99! I personally use the MP12060 since it's a bit longer and still fits just fine in my sister's vehicle, so I assume it is going to have equal or greater filter capacity to the M1-113a.
The Mobile 1 oil filter looks like a very good filter but since I change filters about twice as frequent than mfg. recommendations, I'd go with the Supertech.
You didn't do a static flow through test. All you did was a comparison. I would highly recommend you take a test tube of oil inverted on the medium and see how long it takes to flow through. That would tell us something.
I was unboxing these things at Walmart one day and looking at the inside of the supertechs I like how big the vents are versus those little slits, they look like the inside of the K&N HP’s, I wonder if they flow like a K&N, because I’d gladly start using them at $3.75 each for my car
Up front they are obviously comparable. The true test comes when put on a flow test first without and then with clogging additives. I'm going to look for such a test online, but they usually only compare the top brands against one another.
On a Viper v10 use only Mobil one filter all others will split their cases , the pulses from the oil pump killed all except the Mobil one because of the Mobil one thicker case
I have used many different oil filters over the years and only 1 really stands out as being really better than many....the BOSCH "Distance Plus"!!❤️ Distance Plus. If you can even find them buy them if money is no object. Most, expensive or not so much are good if you change oil at 5000 miles. Some are rated 99 pc filtration some only 97🙏.
is it just me or do the supertech 20k cost almost as much as the mobile 1's now...what is going on. I remember these being around $7 bucks, now they are all around $11.
Yep, it looks like they went up in price😖www.walmart.com/ip/SuperTech-Maximum-Performance-20-000-mile-Replacement-Synthetic-Oil-Filter-MP10060-for-Buick-Cadillac-Chevrolet-GMC-Chrysler-Dodge-and-Jeep/944746704
Hey brother merry Christmas 🎁🎄 to you and your family. Both great filters wouldn’t mind using either. I would probably favor the Mobil however on a keep engine especially under warranty conditions. The anti drain back valve on the super tech looks like some old champ labs stock.
All this seems to be good to know, but what really matters is performance, filtering particles, and flow rate. These are hard to quantify. OTOH, If the Supertech does a similar job for half the price, that's a win.
I noticed with super tech filter on my 4.6 ford when I start after oil change no rapping at startup with 820 s and Fram there is a little rapping at start up. always fill filter at least half full is this just with me or do others notice this.
I just picked up a VP racing filter. It’s very similar to the super tech filter just with a metal core and a synthetic media/wire backing (royal purple clone).
Hi Chandler, I opened one up about a year ago and it didn't have any wire backing, here's the video link. th-cam.com/video/OQsw4tTUPRk/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
@@WhipCityWrencher I believe they updated it in 2022, I seen another example on FordBoss and it had the same wire backing as the royal purple. Made by champ. I’ll give it a shot. Personally like the Purolator Boss the best.
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So the bottom line is they are fairly equal quality filters. Both are rated for 20,000 miles, but anyone concerned with the health of their engine is changing the filter every 5,000 miles, so there should be no difference in performance between the two. For half the cost, the SuperTech is the clear win.
One made in USA for Mobil but didn't mention where Supertech was made. So if made in China, that would explain 1/2 the cost. A US company may own the name, but doesn't mean they are made in US.
@@trvman1- At 0:08, it shows the Supertech box with "Made in the USA" printed on it.
As of 2023 that 5k is too long of an interval it is better to drop back down to 3500 or so because Direct Injection high pressure fuel pumps are good at diluting the oil especially for people that have short commutes and not much hwy time to burn off the excess fuel being introduced. Before Turbos and Direct injection 5k was perfectly fine and probably still is, but the longer these new engines are out they have learned a lot from them. My wife's 2020 Camry SE uses OW-16W and I do it every 5k, but after seeing what is happening with Honda accords right now with oil dilution I think I am going to shorten her intervals because she has a short commute. Now the Camry does not have Turbos and it does not have the carboning up issues because it has both Direct and Port injection systems. Seriosly if you own a Turbo charged engine with Direct injection shorter intervals are in your best interest:P
@trvman1 go back and watch the video and take off the blinders. He clearly points out that the Supertech is made in the US.
Not convinced "price and pretty labeling" of the filter determines its filtration properties...
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Hi Nathaniel, Wow, Thank You.
I'm flattered to be in the same comparison. I like watching Project Farm videos also👍
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When looking at filtration you want to look at the total surface area of tbe filtering mat (in this case) micron rating, length, heigth, width, and thickness. Proper flow thru the rilter is the name of the game. You can put them on a test bench and pump oil thru them and test pressure and volumes per second as the oil flows thru them. You could also add contaminants to test the clogging resistance if you can.
LOL. The filter companies can't fool anyone anymore. They must know they're being watched. I see Fram has cleaned up their act quite a bit. Champion Labs has had the whistle blown on them too. BTW, I have used Wal-Mart Super-Tech motor oil in my cars for years. Buy it by the pail and use a pump to fill the car. Sold my last car with 475,000km (294,000mi), oil change every 10,000km (6200mi) and none of them ever burnt an ounce of oil. Used Wix filters.
Sounds like a good Oil Change interval.Thanks for Sharing👍
I also use Walmart synthetic oil, made by the same company that makes the one for Amazon and others. Cheaper than the major brands and just as good, IMO.
Thats a joke right ?
Rather buy the traditional plastic presentation and pour it straigh into the oil compartment.
Which car was that?
Have found by experimentation, select brands,ie: (Dello, Rotella and Valvoline) hold oil pressure in summer better than many others.@@pedrofernandez8729
I continue to be impressed by the ST MP oil filters. For the price they rival big name filters. I use them and they work just as good as name brand. Good job as always whip👍
Thank You!👍
Very surprising. The only other test I would like to see run is the condition of them after a 5,000 mile service and also the used oil from exact model cars with same mileage. Excellent video.
That's because Walmart isn't actually making them. They contract that out to a known filter manufacturer who makes it for them. Could be Mann/Hummel, Purolator, Wix, Fram, etc.
Nice test, but who in the world would let their engine go for 20k miles without an oil change?
My ex girlfriend would, 😆
The same guy that wears his drawers 'til they look like Chocolate Venitian Blinds.
@@SlikLizrd 😂😂😂
Usually women who know no better and only go by the warning light. Nowadays "woman owned and driven" is a big red flag.
Amsoil fanboys, that's who
Super Tech wins in my book. I’m going to start saving money. Was using Mobile One filters for 20 years.
I think MP Supertech is a good alternative to the Mobil oil filter. Not much of a difference.
@willjackson716 I hear you
Have been using super tech for years in my 2007 ranger. Change every 3000 because mostly around town driving. 86,000 miles and uses no oil. If people would just learn how to read the specs on a bottle of oil. And compare thoses to they oem manual. They would then be educated. A bit of research is all that's needed.
For 20+ years, I have used Mobil 1 synthetic oil and usually a mobil 1, K&n, purolater. Or wix filter on all our vehicles. I would change oil and filter every 7000 miles. Thanks to lower cost, about a year ago, changed to supertech synthetic oil and filters. Difference is that i now do it about every 5000 miles. I figure it's better overall. I have been pleased. Last oil changes, i went to valvoline restore and protect on some higher mileage vehicles. However, i will stick with supertech filters
Thanks for the detailed analysis. I would go for the supertech filter changing it at about every 3,000 miles. I would not stretch it to 5,000 miles or more
as recommended by the auto manufacturers.
Automatic transmission fluid should be never changed in 2007 Toyotas?
Worse for me is seeing the recommended automatic transmission changing requirement. My 2007 Toyota Corolla matrix recommends never changing the
automatic transmission fluid.
I did drain my automatic transmission fluid with my filter at about 5 quarts. I did locate and buy the required Toyota IV transmission fluid. I measured the fluid
removed and replace the same amount. I did this at about 150,000 miles.
The worse was the drained 5 quarts of fluid was solid black with no red color. The original Toyota IV fluid is a red color. The removed old fluid was black.
Once the new 5 quarts of new fluid was added, the dip stick fluid was black with lots of red also.
I repeated the transmission fluid 5 quart with filter replacement at about 200,000 miles. This time the dipstick fluid after was mostly red with a little black in
the fluid.
I can see why Toyota wants owners to never change the automatic transmission fluid. They can sell you another new Toyota after about 200,000 miles because
the transmission has failed.
You're Welcome!
Yep, manufacturers dont want your vehicle to last forever. They need to repair and sell cars to make money.
I think a 30K to 50K transmission oil change is a wise thing to do.
May your Toyota last you a long time😊
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@wendyphillips5002 be very careful what dealers recommend on oil changes. Because if most of your type of driving is in town. There's more engine idle time at intersections. Oil gets dirty from the un-burned hydro-carbons/gas . When fuel is injected into the cylinder. There's a small area that fuel doesn't get completely burned. That's what gets absorbed into oil.plus. the engine going from cold to hot repeatedly breaks down the additives in oil. This is known as: viscosity/ thermo breakdown. Some times they mention that in oil commercials. That's what additives have to combat against.
That SuperTech filter is solid. Whip has definitely increased my respect for Walmart oil filters.
These cutaway videos are a valuable source. I've been changing my oil for a while, never thought much about the construction of the oil filter or even much into the specific type of oil I've been buying. The Mobil 1 and Super Tech filter here are very similar, unfortunately the maximum protection filter wasn't at my store for my car so I went with the Mobil 1. Super Tech maximum protection is a good alternative. The Superior protection one however is similar to FRAM extra guard.. which is cheaply made.
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I found the 20k miles ST filter that fits my jet boat for $2.50 each, on sale.
Yamaha filters were $25 ea, and made in thailand.
Wow good deal👍
@@WhipCityWrencher More like 'Yamaha is a rip off'
Wow!!!!😮
I've been using Super tech filters for years. Never had any issues. I also used ST synthetic 5w20, but most if the time Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic is the same price, so i use Valvoline. But the filters are excellent. Change every 4800-5000 miles.
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You are wasting $. You are good for a minimum of 6000 miles . My 4runner has 327k and no problems.
@@chrismemphis8062might as well play the lottery
Super Tech oil is made by Warren, good oil.
Kind of impressed by the Super Tech it's made in the United States. Walmart usually has all their crap made overseas and it's actually seems like a good filter especially for half the price of the mobile
That name is what’s costing you. It’s no different than your kids toy with 🤬anything Disney on it.
EVERYBODY makes things overseas.
Made in the USA doesn't make stuff better! Mind over matter..
@@SirCricket It does if I live in The U.S.
Walmart doesn't make anything anywhere, they just market products. And they don't sell 'crap', otherwise they'd be out of business.
Been using supertech for years no problems 👍
Been doing a lot of research on this ST oil/filters as I’ll be using it in my wife’s car this week; like many of the comments on here say I to am impressed by the quality of ST oil & the filters. I think for half the price of Mobil & other major oil brands, it’s just incomparable! Thanks for this great video, and all your work I am a subscriber.
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As a retired mechanic I have to say the super tech looks good but will stick with napa gold
Way better micron rating on the Wix/Napa Gold.
Very good comment! Totally agree on Napa Gold. I wish they were cheaper though)
For the money, I would choose the Supertech.
I try to support companies selling products made in America as much as possible
I've only used fram oil filters and Quaker State oil in my 04 silverado Z71 5.3. Still, everyday day work truck with 425,000+ miles all original engine except water pump at 380,000. Original trans also.
That's pretty good!
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How many fuel pumps
Ive always used Mobil 1 the most, others only if i cant get it, but when ive taken the valve covers off, it looks absolutely brand new. Synthetic is the way to go. Keep the oil changed and even the fram orange can works fine. Mine easily go 300K. Only now that i dont have salt and rust will the body last long enough. Any money the transmissions will let go and the engine still runs like new.
Many people ignore the transmission until the fluid is brown and stinky and it's slipping unfortunately.
@@RetroCaptain definitely. I've always kept mine changed. Seems like after 250K and 15 years the seals probably get hard. On those -15° mornings it wouldn't move until it warmed up. Now we're up to 35° and the old girl won't move. I'm sure eventually it'll be idling to warm up when it's 70° and at some point no amount of warming up will help.
@@AmandaHugenkiss2915 Try draining off enough fluid to accept at LEAST two (2) full bottle worth of Lucas Transmission fix (it's like STP for automatic transmission).
It helped mine as far as the banging noise at shifting but unfortunately the gear set is damaged so I had to park it.
I'm thinking you might need 3 bottles.
If the seals are hardened, there's another product that is said to be magic on old hard seals.
AT-205 Re Seal.
Maybe try the re seal first, and if that doesn't work, then the Lucas.
I know the Lucas won't help tired hard rubber. It just makes the fluid a little thicker.
After the 2 bottle worth in my small transmission, you can't tell. It looked the same as before and drips easy. It just "feels" a little more like "oil" than before.
Regardless the thing will eventually be too difficult to live with and need replacing.
Been there before and it's a bunch of work yourself and expensive if you hire a shop.
ST filters are made by Champion Labs in Clover SC Champion Plant.
Champion Labs makes OEM Motorcraft, OEM GM on some applications, AC, Valvoline, AutoZone and the Mobil 1 filter.
Mann Hummel makes Motorcraft filters and Mobil 1 as well as Purolator and Mann.
This.
Walmart filters and synthetic oil every 3,000 miles. Cheap insurance.
In Canada the Mobil filter is $ 23 CAD. I will definitely check out the Supertech Brand' there is no reason by the examination done here that it won't work just fine for 5K miles.
Awesome job on the review and video Thanks!
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Glad you liked the video😊
Meh! The key is, *Choose an oil and weight that's appropriate for your climate. *Check your fluids monthly. *Change your oil and filter every spring. "Corporate Marketing" is more BS than fact!
@@SirCricket and stick to the oem recommended oil weight. ITs that for a good reason
I se SuperTech oil & filters in all my vehicles. I change at a maximum of every 5,000 miles. No issues, good value.
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I’ll definitely go with the Mobil.
I have least almost all of my vehicles over the years. I only use the supertech products because if there's ever any issues those will happen long after I get rid of the vehicle. That's no knock on the product itself. The value is amazing I even use it in my. The value is amazing I even use it in my boat.
Wow what an excellent video! Very thorough, every possible component measured. I thought Supertech was just a cheap oil filter but that is not the case, it is a superior bang for the buck filter and the Mobil 1 you are basically paying for the name.
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I@@WhipCityWrencherIs the nylon used in the ST oil filter pretty durable compared to the steel one used in the Mobil 1 oil filter? Thank you?
@@MrRGiller I've grown to like the nylon center cores, I dont think they will cause any problems.
@@WhipCityWrencher That's good to hear. Thank you for the information.
With the Mobil 1 you get 15% more filter area and what you are buying is a filter. Seems to me you get more flow and more life out of the Mobil 1. All of the other useless weighing he did has no effect on the ability of the filter to clean oil.
I've seen all these reviews prior to trying one, that I got on a crazy deal at a Walmart store. I only change about every 5k miles and went longer with full synthetic, this time I tried a high mileage conventional with my first Supertech filter and noticed that oil was blacker than usual after some miles. Usually, it stayed clear a LOT LONGER. This tells me it's not filtering as much. I think for standard 3-5k change, it's probably fine, or maybe my system just pulled out more gunk than before, but I'm going to try another to compare.
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How nice of Jason to send you these two fine filters! Another great review! Have a wonderful weekend! 👍🎄✨
Hi Ella, Thank You!
Yes, it was nice of Jason.👍
Have a great weekend also!😊
does the Supertek filter qualify for equal or better than OEM filters?
I distinctly remember Honda rejecting a warranty claim on a motorcycle that was still under warranty that had a oil related engine failure. The owner put a chrome Chinese made oil filter on his still under warranty, Goldwing motorcycle. Honda rejected the claim because in the owners manual, it specifically states that the owner must use OEM parts..
Champ Labs makes the Supertech oil filters and the OEM ACDelco oil filters for GM, along with other filters. I think the MP version Supertech oil filters are equal to many OEM oil filters. If it voids the warranty it's best to use what Honda recommends then. Thanks👍
In a recent used oil analysis on our 2013 Silverado 2500 HD, it was mentioned that the ST filter did a wonderful job filtering at 4600 mi.
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Looking over one of your other videos, I would like to see some way of seeing the amount of debris in the threads. Some filters do appear to have quite a bit from what I presume is the thread cutting process. Also consider that the threads are post filtration so any metal debris is heading straight to the engine. Perhaps once cut open you could screw a post into the filter over a white paper and see if any debris gets knocked loose.
Some filters may have some debris some may not, the best thing I can suggest is that before purchasing shake your filter and do a visual inspection. Clean the threads with a white tissue or cloth. Unless you run into a bad batch, 99% of the time the filters are fine.
Id still like to see how the oil pushes through each filter with each having different sizes and hole shapes. Because they look similar doesnt always mean they will perform the same.
I’ve used Supertec oil filters and full synthetic high mileage on all my three cars for twenty plus years. I just changed the oil in my 2000 Camry and for both filter and oil the cost was less than $24. All my cars are 150K plus miles. Maybe it’s because I own a Honda, Toyota and Mazda but I haven’t had any mechanical problems. I change oil every 5,000 miles or once a year.
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Question. I change oil every 5,000 but with the filters saying 20,000, I only change every other oil change. I use ST synthetic oil. It's not the money for filters (who cares), it's the location and in the mid-winter change in an unheated garage. I'm still changing the filter 1/2 thru its stated life. Good or bad?
Change the oil change filter that's what I do.
Impressed by your analysis and methods
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Jay the Florida pool pump motor repair guy. When Service Calls Longwood approved ! that was good info 2 see👨🔧good job !!WCW
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Notice the super tech, inside the oil filter it has a ton more filter area vs the metal inside of the mobil1 with the plastic gates.
Actually the Mobil has a little more filter media but they are close.
With the way things are constantly changing, I open up the boxes in the store to verify the insides are what they are supposed to be. I've seen some that say they have silicon anti drain back valves on the box but they are actually rubber. My son and I bought up all the Super Tech filters they had on the shelf for our cars (same ones) because of your videos. They were on sale for $3.40 a piece so we couldn't pass it up!
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So, you're the one who's been buying all the toilet paper during PLANDEMIC?
Jerks like you and your son are the reason why normal people go into Walmart and can't find the filters or oil we need in stock. There is already a trucking shortage and in rural towns it's every other week until filters and oil come back in stock. 🇺🇸🖕
@@Resist_JWO_1984 Bottled water, toilet paper, and bullets. Stupid monkeys. 🤣
@@MindsMouth When I buy oil filters at Walmart, I also open the boxes to ensure the correct filter is in the box. People have been known to take expensive oil filters and put them in a cheaper costing filter box.
I buy the OEM filters. Not much difference in price at Walmart.
toyota oem filter sucks...
ST had 86 sq inches of filter material compared to Mobil 1 had 100 sq inches. ST has 14% less filter material. Dont know if it matters if you change it at 5k to 7k. Thoughts?
5K oil changes shouldn't matter. JMHO
I have become a fan of yours in past month and a half or so ,and I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate and respect all the work you put into your videos and I only have one question about oil filters and I was wondering about flow through them. Could some filters have too much restriction ? I know they have a bypass but could it be a problem and if so ,is there any way to test them for flow?
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As for your question, sorry I dont know. I dont have the necessary equipment to test them.
Not to worry, Frankie -- Modern oil filters are strategically engineered for best Cost-Per-Dollar filtering -- and they avoid internal restrictions as a matter of course.
1. Number and size of holes in Base Plates has increased.
2. Center Tubes have more holes and/or louvers.
3. Bulky Wire Screens eliminated, more room for pleats.
Flow Testing by individuals is not gonna happen -- necessary equipment is too expensive, and the cost of training involved to operate the equipment and interpret the findings is prohibitive.
I'm more concerned with Micron Ratings, and quality oil filters put their Micron Ratings ON THE BOX.
@@SlikLizrd "quality oil filters put their Micron Ratings ON THE BOX" or on the Fram website.
Louver cores and screen backed media would be more restrictive in my opinion. Micron capture rating goes up efficiency goes down. Can’t have the best of both worlds.
I change my oil aprox once a year by mileage. I dont mind spending a little more money on a good filter. When your spending 70 thousand on a truck, i sure the hell am not worried about 8-10 dollars more for filter.
If the bypass valve is opened, does it close automatically? informative good video. thanks
Yes, it should, Thanks!👍
I don't know about that nylon cage. I don't know if that would fracture or not and if it fractured where would the pieces go
I used to think the same thing, but I think it's just as strong as the metal cores with less restriction.
@Whip City Wrencher my concern is that heating and cooling cycles over time could make the nylon brittle.. I don't know.. I haven't taken one apart or tested one.
@@obummer14-4 Yep, well here is one that I consider a cheap Nylon cage oil filter and it did okay after 6 K miles. th-cam.com/video/PyYiZaTHTQU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
Nylon is pretty durable and for the length of time a filter is in service, likely makes no difference. I would prefer metal though.
Started using Mobil 1 filter a few years ago and never looked back.
I would not use a filter with a dented can. If it compromised and you end up with a leak or worse, a rupture, you’re really kinda screwed. Why take the chance?
Both are nice filters I’d gladly use either. I like that neither of them went crazy with the glue (can you tell that is a pet peeve of mine) and use quality materials. My biggest problem with the supertech is that it is exclusively sold by Walmart. The Walmarts down here are bigger than some suburban shopping malls and twice as crowded. But it is a really nice filter.
Hi James, I'm with you on the dented filter.
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Awesome detail! I've been wanting to see a oil filter review like this for a long time!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked the video.
Very detailed comparison. Thanks.
Who makes Super tech filters?
An oil analysis after using each filter would be a real life test, i think.
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An oil Analysis would be interesting. Champ Labs. make the Supertech oil filters.
I personally know a man that has used super tech oil and filters in his work car. He has just over 200,000 on it. Ithas ran fine and has no issues. Oil changes are he hays are around 4 to 5 thousand miles. He uses the synthetic oil. This was 5 years ago. I know use it in my vehicles. Thanks for the vedio
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So nice of Jason! Very good comparison and review Pete. TFS Merri :)
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I know the engineers of the Mobil 1 designed the filter with proper flow characteristics, but those tiny louvres look very restrictive. For me, Supertech FTW.
Those poorly punched louvers trigger my entire brain and hand to reach elsewhere.
The louvers on the M1 are fine. And, there's always significantly more louver openings than holes in a center tube. Always. If Whip shined a light source over the outlet opening it would prove those two points. When it comes to flow, no filter can flow more than the inner diameter area of the engine block filter mounting stud. So, the ST won't flow more than the M1.
@@faxmen09 Exactly. The main restriction is the media itself.
15 years ago the M1 Extended was the exact same as the Bosch Premium. Kinda poor micron rating. I prefer 20-23 range @99%
@@GT-mn3bx YEP. I'm kinda partial to the Bosch Premium's "99% AT 20-Microns", rather than those who say "Greater Than 20 Microns".
Yeah. I know. Picky, picky, picky -- 😁
Thanks, Pete
Both filters are serviceable. I got a buddy that swears by the Mobile 1 filters. I agree about not using a dented can.
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Mobil 1 -- the most over-rated oil filter on the market -- the smart people swear AT them !!
The SuperTech oil filter is a much better value.
Just stumbled across your video. Great review. I just subbed!
Awesome, Thank You!👍
In many ways you get what you pay for, good Quality oil and filter is cheap really, by comparison to rebuilding or replacing an engine, with modern engines the most unkind thing you do them is lack of proper servicing!!
In some ways the supertech filter looks better than the mobil 1 filter!
Checked the flow test on another video. The filtering capacity between these two was the real difference. The Mobil 1 was able to filter out a significantly more amount of contaminants without sacrificing flow rate or pressure. The design of the M1 filter also trapped the contaminants in the filter media (where it's supposed to) versus getting stuck between the cap and seal, which will alter the flow path and either send through bypass or stop flow into the filter all together.
Been using Super Tech for as long as I can remember. I like that open cage design for good oil flow.
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Vs metal ?? Lolol
More threads isn't a hill of beans.
Mobil with more sq inches for me.
I've been using them for decades, never a problem
I would use either filter and feel good about it. I always use the OEM oil filter because that's the way my father taught me when I was a young "want to be mechanic."
Bill
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I havent watched the video yet, but when im at Walmart buying oil and filter, I buy OEM if they have it, and SuperTech if not.
Whip City?? Westfield, MA?
Yep, 😊
The Super Tech seems fine for the price, but I would never run a 20k mile oil change like that. These filters would most likely be "ok" for a 10k interval. But by that I mean change the oil every 5k and the filter every 10k.
I have seen a lot of caterpillar filters used and bandsawed open to look for metal chunks
Question, do they recycle used oil and can it be cleaned good enough to be used again ? Also, how do they determine the grade ?
ive used Orange filters all my 60 years and never one engine issue over millions of miles. Regular dino oil and Fram filter every 3000 miles and you are golden. If you cant be bothered to change your oil you arent a car guy anyway. Running a oil that can withstand 7k miles between changes while using a filter intended to be changed every 3k is asking for problems.
Times change....that 3,000 number is now probably 5,000. If you have a GM 3.6 every 4000😊
super tech looks fine thanks for the comparison I'll start using super tech filter and oil save money
My wife has a Hyundai i10 , the cabin filter/ air con filter cost R236 for a brand called GUD , the other brand is called DUNLOP for R82, that was last year, i replaced it again 2 weeks ago & bought the Dunlop again & this time it costed R75, No issues at all.
Looking at the ADB and BPV design, the ST looks like it's made by Fram. It wouldn't surprise me since Walmart has been such a huge Fram partner for so long. The baseplate design is interesting. Wonder why they do that? I think the polymer cores are the way everyone should go. They flow better, do the job just fine, and have more than proven themselves over the years. Thanks for the vid!
Thanks!
Ruff
Not Fram. Made by Champion.
Why would you buy an over elaborate oil filter if you change your fluid every 3500 miles? I buy the cheap ones. I have 135k miles on my 2005 Acura TL and it runs very very good. Very fast. Clean oil. Doesnt burn a drop of oil. In the early days, Cars didn't even have oil filters
I prefer the older Mobil1 oil filter that was built by Champ Labs & based on a Delco gold ,but the newer ones made by Mann &Hummel are good as well, but expensive....the SuperTech is basically a Delco blue ,it's a great filter at its price point & I got no problems using them, unless it's the ones that got the cardboard felt endcaps, won't use the Delco with felt endcaps either, I check the filter before it goes on or even in the cart 🛒
Hi Mark, I dont care for the felt/cardboard end caps either. I opened up an ST Supertech a while back with the felt endcaps and they weren't even glued on.
Ive found differ variations of the same brand filter before. One was metal capped and one was fiber so I check a few boxes and decide.
Champ. Mann, purolator, motorcraft wix all same company now.
I would certainly say though based on that tear down I wouldn’t hesitate to use on of those super tech filters on a vehicle thatvis out of warranty or a little older if they had one that is compatible. As long as it’s made in America I’d use one.
I'd go with the Mobil
More filter media
I liked the bypass valve design better
I also liked the ADBV better... tighter fit more streamlined more attention to detail
$6 more added to overall cost of an oil change isn't much in that context. Your car's engine is far more expensive.
Mobil is my choice here
Nice comparison 👍 informative and interesting. Good stuff
Thanks, drum!👍
The small diff in filter media area isn’t an issue at 3/4K mile oil changers,but a fairly dirty motor or tired motor with blowby contaminating the oil with carbon particles getting past worn rings during combustion could be an issue at the long advertised
20k mile oil & filter change interval possibly putting filter into dreaded bypass mode.
Is it worth a couple of dollars buying a cheap filter and risking the life of your engine? I have never had an issue with OEM filters.
Here's a used OEM Motorcraft oil filter that looks like crap, Thanks! th-cam.com/video/4gmIPGRaFgo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
Damn, I've been buying the Mobil 1 oil filters for my Subaru and Honda figuring it was better. For twice the cost I can see that it is not and the two look fairly equal at best!
I have a 2013 Silverado with a 5.3 liter and now have over 207.000 miles on it. I only use Mobil 1 full synthetic with the Mobil 1 filter and change them both every 7000 miles religiously. Engine is starting to burn a quart of oil every 1400 miles and the performance isn't what it used to be....I can't complain considering the mileage.
Hi Michael,
Have you ever tried a High Milage oil? It may help some with oil consumption.
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Change the driver side valve cover possibly ?
@@TurnThemWheels Great idea! Never thought of that.
i was in a pinch before a 1200 mile road trip and put mobil 1 5w-30 in my 2002 silverado (6.0 lq4) when it was around 196k miles. it burnt oil all the way and sounded like it was going to blow up. swap to the valvoline high mileage 5w-30. that’s what i’ve been running since new and it has kept my motor quiet, and never burns any. i change between 3-5k miles depending on when my service light comes on.
the amount of moly in the valvoline stuff keeps the LS motors quiet.
You do know that tests were ran and mobile one synthetic isn't even as good as other oils right?
why did not test filter filtration ?
I don't have the equipment to do that.
Supertech for the win!! No way I'd pay double just for the name. That ST filter is outstanding value and quality.
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MP10060 is $5.90 at my local Walmart. The Mobil1 M1-113a is $11.44. Try buying it at the parts store down the street and it's $17.99! I personally use the MP12060 since it's a bit longer and still fits just fine in my sister's vehicle, so I assume it is going to have equal or greater filter capacity to the M1-113a.
The Mobile 1 oil filter looks like a very good filter but since I change filters about twice as frequent than mfg. recommendations, I'd go with the Supertech.
The mobile 1 looks very similar to a Motorcraft filter design. I wonder if they contract with the same manufacturer.
It appears one of those is the wrong filter as the threaded hole is a different diameter from the other.
It may look like that in the video but they have the same thread size
You didn't do a static flow through test. All you did was a comparison. I would highly recommend you take a test tube of oil inverted on the medium and see how long it takes to flow through. That would tell us something.
Sorry,
I dont have the equipment to do that kind of test, maybe someday, but right now all I can do is compare them.
That is a good idea flow through capabilty or what can probably be called -filtered viscosity rate- FvR right?
I actually like the nylon cage more. I wish more brands would go with them. I feel like they are better for oil flow.
Thank you for your video and it is a close race and have a blessed day today 🙏
You're Welcome, have a blessed day also, Thanks!
Love me some Super Tech oil and filters. Ballin' on a budget.
Glue breaks down, id go with the mobile 1 still just based off those two and the way the inner rubber sits, just looks more reliable imo
So should I use super tech filter ?
Between these two, I would
Always check the threads where the filters screw onto the engine. I see the Mobil looks to have some particles in the threads.
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Are they made by same company?
I was unboxing these things at Walmart one day and looking at the inside of the supertechs I like how big the vents are versus those little slits, they look like the inside of the K&N HP’s, I wonder if they flow like a K&N, because I’d gladly start using them at $3.75 each for my car
Up front they are obviously comparable. The true test comes when put on a flow test first without and then with clogging additives. I'm going to look for such a test online, but they usually only compare the top brands against one another.
Exceptional comparison! Probably ST is fine enough since I rarely go over 3500 miles, even with synthetic oil.
On a Viper v10 use only Mobil one filter all others will split their cases , the pulses from the oil pump killed all except the Mobil one because of the Mobil one thicker case
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With media being the same and housing being thicker it makes you wonder why the mobil is 3x the price.
I have used many different oil filters over the years and only 1 really stands out as being really better than many....the BOSCH "Distance Plus"!!❤️ Distance Plus. If you can even find them buy them if money is no object. Most, expensive or not so much are good if you change oil at 5000 miles. Some are rated 99 pc filtration some only 97🙏.
I got an stp oil filter at AutoZone on east main Street ( hi neighbor!) For my VW, stp is Studebaker, and thats good enough for me
Hello neighbor😊
is it just me or do the supertech 20k cost almost as much as the mobile 1's now...what is going on. I remember these being around $7 bucks, now they are all around $11.
Yep, it looks like they went up in price😖www.walmart.com/ip/SuperTech-Maximum-Performance-20-000-mile-Replacement-Synthetic-Oil-Filter-MP10060-for-Buick-Cadillac-Chevrolet-GMC-Chrysler-Dodge-and-Jeep/944746704
Hey brother merry Christmas 🎁🎄 to you and your family. Both great filters wouldn’t mind using either. I would probably favor the Mobil however on a keep engine especially under warranty conditions. The anti drain back valve on the super tech looks like some old champ labs stock.
Hi Denny, Merry Christmas to you and your family as well!🎄
All this seems to be good to know, but what really matters is performance, filtering particles, and flow rate. These are hard to quantify. OTOH, If the Supertech does a similar job for half the price, that's a win.
I noticed with super tech filter on my 4.6 ford when I start after oil change no rapping at startup with 820 s and Fram there is a little rapping at start up. always fill filter at least half full is this just with me or do others notice this.
I just picked up a VP racing filter. It’s very similar to the super tech filter just with a metal core and a synthetic media/wire backing (royal purple clone).
Hi Chandler,
I opened one up about a year ago and it didn't have any wire backing, here's the video link.
th-cam.com/video/OQsw4tTUPRk/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
@@WhipCityWrencher I believe they updated it in 2022, I seen another example on FordBoss and it had the same wire backing as the royal purple. Made by champ. I’ll give it a shot. Personally like the Purolator Boss the best.
@@chandlerchhem2128 Oh, Okay thanks for letting me know.
I like the Boss also.