KHORNE Army Guide - Part 1: Roster | Warhammer 3

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  • @Powd3r81
    @Powd3r81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I love how CA makes all the units look insane, but for the sake of balance give unrealistic stats. Yes, the cultist of Khorne with an axe, the size of a beach ball, does not have armor piercing damage... xD

    • @stevej71393
      @stevej71393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The axe is a foam prop bought at Comic-Con LOL

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 ปีที่แล้ว

      Effing CA.

  • @MrDioXIII
    @MrDioXIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    I like how Skarbrand doesn't have that anti spell ability since he is exiled and not favoured by Khorne (and for balance reasons, of course).

    • @ryanw5500
      @ryanw5500 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Does that ability work on runic magic?

  • @link670
    @link670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    Glad to see the Khorne Waddafukisdiss is sporting some nice stats. Feel like it's good that Khorne has one ranged option just to give armies something to do during the initial "walk at each other with malicious intent" phase of the battle.

    • @zacharyjackson1829
      @zacharyjackson1829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cue the cynics shouting "but the WOC have the Hell Cannon and their faction sucks so how how will this faction be any different?!"

    • @egg-iu3fe
      @egg-iu3fe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      by khorne you mean skarbrand right?

    • @link670
      @link670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@egg-iu3fe skarbrand is the lord. Khorne is the race.

    • @egg-iu3fe
      @egg-iu3fe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@link670 skarbrand was a daemon of khorne, one of his minions. Khorne is a god.
      Skarbrand is exiled in warhammer 3

    • @link670
      @link670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@egg-iu3fe yes, but what is your point?
      If Valkia the Bloody comes out tomorrow she'll have access to the exact same unit, not to mention generic Exalted bloodletters and bloodthirsters leading their own armies. Hence I attribute it to Khorne, not skarbrand.
      Feels like you're just trying to measure warhammer lore dicks but missed the entire point of the comment.

  • @PedroRodrigues-je6xp
    @PedroRodrigues-je6xp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    This series was the reason why I started playing, good luck

    • @lindagoad2163
      @lindagoad2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was a longtime W player but I didn't buy the game for a few years and devoured these guides before.

    • @princeofrance
      @princeofrance 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck at what ?

    • @PedroRodrigues-je6xp
      @PedroRodrigues-je6xp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@princeofrance good luck with the game
      Good luck with life
      Good luck with your relationships...
      And on and on
      :)

    • @princeofrance
      @princeofrance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PedroRodrigues-je6xp good luck to you as well than

  • @Ellebeeby
    @Ellebeeby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Multiplayer in a nutshell:
    Khorne: "Oh, you're approaching me? Instead of running away you're coming right to me?"
    Also Khorne: "I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer."

  • @joedatius
    @joedatius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    In campaign the cultist can also summon a full on bloodthirster when leveled up enough along with being able to summon 2 uses of summoning bloodletters

    • @Foefaller
      @Foefaller 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also the Herald of Khone is the precursor to and Exlalted Bloodthirster; after a Herald gets a high enough rank you get the option to sacrifice it for a Greater Demon Lord, which is the case for nearly all Chaos factions (just replace "Greater Demon" with "Demon Prince" for the WoC)

  • @keroseno876
    @keroseno876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Glad to see this series reborn! Being able to see all stats and abilities in a clear way is such a big help to start planning my first khorne campaign army strategies, but, for future guides, can you show how the different mount options will affect stats? Such a pity it was left out :(

  • @vonbilka8435
    @vonbilka8435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    These Army Guides are just the best thing in human history. Thanks a ton, Zerk!

  • @TheRealKevbot
    @TheRealKevbot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I’m so happy to see this series come back, please do all the Warhammer 3 factions

  • @wetwillyis_1881
    @wetwillyis_1881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I think when this game comes out, we should make a mod that puts the Doom music in for the Khorne faction's battles in game.

    • @Rakshiir
      @Rakshiir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only question is:
      Who is the Doomslayer then to counter them?

    • @wetwillyis_1881
      @wetwillyis_1881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Rakshiir Legend of Total War of course.

    • @bigusdicus7890
      @bigusdicus7890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wetwillyis_1881 nurgle is the hard counter

  • @oranski3299
    @oranski3299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've missed this series so much. A great start, can't wait to finally play the game and instantly forget everything talked about in the video

  • @TheNinjaWildcat
    @TheNinjaWildcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne!

  • @mchunter2266
    @mchunter2266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    For all who are confused about the low weapon strenght for the single entities or the low health, I believe it's because of the unit scale because the showcase is not on ultra. But please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

    • @rubz1390
      @rubz1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Warhammer2 the weapon strength doesn't change with unit scale.

    • @mchunter2266
      @mchunter2266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@rubz1390maybe they want to ballance single enteties a bit more. For example the Herald of Khorne had 400 Weapon Strength in other videos i've seen so far so i believe it goes down 25% for every unit scale. Same thing with the hp.

    • @mchunter2266
      @mchunter2266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rubz1390 I'm sorry about my language by the way, i'm not a native speaker ^^

    • @pureityXXX
      @pureityXXX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your English is fine, everyone understood. For your question they changed how single entity scaling works for TWWH3, we are not sure how exactly yet. Also why do you think the weapon strength is low? The soul grinder has 376ap and it comes with a ranged weapon as well while the Bloodthirster is 360ap with an anti large bonus. It seems fine to me?

    • @emptybruh
      @emptybruh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mchunter2266 Well, I believe most double unit size mods add 2x units, 2x single entity hp and 1.5x for melee def and attack which make sense, especially cause wh3 doesnt have matched combat, so more units are hitting at the same time

  • @liberalideas8224
    @liberalideas8224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very metal. I typically just play campaign, but various builds in both campaign and multiplayer were flying through my head during the video, thanks!

  • @jakeknell2694
    @jakeknell2694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Army guide series is back!!! So excited to see you break these chaotic armies down 🤘🏽

  • @CoolSmoovie
    @CoolSmoovie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For some reason I love love how the Herald of Khorne looks

  • @codrinm28
    @codrinm28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm subscribed to all the guys that dish out WH content, and i have to say, you are by far my favorite! Keep up the awesome work m8 !!!!

  • @almostontimehero5415
    @almostontimehero5415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the only one out of all the WarHam youtubers (Milk&cookies, G. Book Of Grudes, L.Of Totalwar, Okoii) that I watch that does unit breakdowns like this. Please do more for all the new Factions.

  • @xMcCabe32x
    @xMcCabe32x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the army I’m most excited for!!

    • @mynameissal7205
      @mynameissal7205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same!

    • @ryanleung521
      @ryanleung521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me2, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!

  • @marcgw496
    @marcgw496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Pretty awesome but I’d love to see some Chosen for Khorne. My hope is they are redesigning the models to be released as DLC/FLC later on.

    • @Retardeano
      @Retardeano 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And you were absolutely correct

  • @Sherudons
    @Sherudons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You remember when auto combat always had all your artillery die off because it wanted to charge into melee?

  • @adammclaughlin845
    @adammclaughlin845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This looks like the only game in the world I'd pay full price for this year.

  • @GL455_
    @GL455_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just love when I finally get my hands to buy and play my next WHTW game I get to my favorite time! Watching your army guides! Piece of art, my friend.

  • @SqeaksandClank
    @SqeaksandClank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zerk is back doing what he does best! I love these faction guides.

  • @jani2527
    @jani2527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahhh finaly an guality content on the issue of tww3. Nice to see zerkovich unit rosters again👍👍

  • @Shoggunik
    @Shoggunik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh wonderful, my favourite video series

  • @Macfierce1
    @Macfierce1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never would have guessed this 2 years ago, but i think i'm going to be playing a Khorne campaign first in this game. Can't wait!

  • @RoguesAndRoses
    @RoguesAndRoses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all the models, but damn if I don't love the Chaos Furies in particular for some reason. Hellish little faces

  • @TheWhoamaters
    @TheWhoamaters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the realistic weapon proportions for these Chaos Warriors

  • @Stormtrooper990
    @Stormtrooper990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Scheiße!
    Now it feels like we are so close!
    This is really what i need to get REAL pumped.

  • @Scottiedoesnotknow
    @Scottiedoesnotknow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man! I can't wait to play these bad boys , thanks for another epic video run down dude

  • @charleslister8465
    @charleslister8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool and great to see the series back

  • @32bitosserc84
    @32bitosserc84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zerk, an idea if you get time, you should take down and reupload your old army guides, some of the older ones are quite hard to watch with the images just being the battle select screen, and most lack the dlc units. (This is suggested because I love your guides, they practically taught me how to play the game and it’s a real pain finding three different videos for a faction). Also, keep up the good work!

  • @semechkimcblyat9777
    @semechkimcblyat9777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:50 They should have named those "Khorne Dogs".

  • @derekthomas2940
    @derekthomas2940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving Khorne, can't wait to see what fun spells they get!

    • @mememaster695
      @mememaster695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Khorne canonically hates magic because it's dishonorable, so we probably won't be seeing any khorne spells.

    • @derekthomas2940
      @derekthomas2940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mememaster695 this was bait, I'm sorry.

  • @botep5529
    @botep5529 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like flesh hounds. They can catch and do surprisingly good against chariots (especially ranged chariots) if they encircle an enemy hero they will rip them to shreds because so many models can attack it at once

  • @jasoncoe944
    @jasoncoe944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, they really improved these Khorne models since the last roster reveal you did awhile back. Loving the new models, particularly the minotaurs

  • @MrLallelaze
    @MrLallelaze ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need a new one. deamon prince, Khorne Marauders, Chosen, forsaken, new war machines, choas cav variants, change in stats and more.

  • @samueljackson605
    @samueljackson605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can already see how to start building some badass cheesing armies. Whole 20 man stack of cultists buffed up and summoning bloodthirsters? Ya

  • @senkodan
    @senkodan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even play the game, but enjoy a look at all those models up close. Thanks!

  • @Wardemonxi
    @Wardemonxi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hmm I see stats on some single entity units had to change since the last time Zerkovich went over these units. Bloodthirster weapon damage used to be 480 ap with an unknown bonus vs large now its 360 ap with an unknown bonus vs large....or does weapon damage scale with unit size now I wonder?

  • @7F0X7
    @7F0X7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, straight to the point and informative. Please do Slaneesh next!

  • @lime3620
    @lime3620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zerk I would love to see army guides for every faction in IE. I know it is a huge ask but those videos will then be the go-to resource online for each faction, since there is a void for that content right now.

  • @mchodnicak
    @mchodnicak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FINALY ... Proper Unit roster From Zerkovich .... Thats i was waiting for :D

  • @dwood2010
    @dwood2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Khorne will be the first faction i play as. They are too cool!

  • @machans372
    @machans372 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard (haven’t confirmed) that when Scarbrand attempted to betray Khorne he was thrown out of his realm with such force that his wings burned up (why he can’t fly) and impacted the ground face first leaving a huge crater and scaring his face and breaking his horns. I kind of thought he looked a little rarded until I heard that. Now he is my favourite character

  • @spartnmarcen5110
    @spartnmarcen5110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see this series back! These videos were so helpful.

  • @OmegasevenWoW
    @OmegasevenWoW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can´t wait to see a fight between Taurox and Skarbrand.

  • @RockAndStoner445
    @RockAndStoner445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I hope we can recruit the khorne minotaurs for the beastmen

  • @pedromalucelli5209
    @pedromalucelli5209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see this series back

  • @hounddogzepp
    @hounddogzepp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES ARMY GUIDES ARE BACK BABY

  • @dmet2323
    @dmet2323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IT BEGINS!!!

  • @thatrussiandude9059
    @thatrussiandude9059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yea, Zerkovich, roster vid, lets gooooo

  • @hamare
    @hamare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've missed these army guides so much! Great content!

  • @Sn1perCat03
    @Sn1perCat03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i think you missed out the important thing with the flesh hounds (magic attack and I believe they have 50% magic resistance so they sound like a cheap anti etherial unit to me)

  • @AJH101
    @AJH101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice, I do like a good old fashioned Khorne army!

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do wish we'd gotten gorebeasts sans chariot as a monstrous infantry (?) unit.

  • @Kees247
    @Kees247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job on all these video’s. Thanks.

  • @joedatius
    @joedatius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    its nice that minotaur's get the credit they deserve by khorne and get to be considered proper units, they're creatures of unending destruction and bloodshed it was always weird that they never got much love in being in actual khorne armies.

  • @eviljoshy3402
    @eviljoshy3402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Completely unrelated to the video but whenever I see Skarbrand and half of Khornes army. I cant get over how they hold axes. They are sacrificing so much leverage to hold it so close to the head.

  • @norfemignissius4936
    @norfemignissius4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not convinced about using the skull cannon & soul grinder against flying unit. It seems to me you mention it more as a "well it's the only ranged option that can hit flying unit" rather than "it's an effective solution against flying unit". They are single projectile, so in multi-player it won't hit single entity moving around, and may miss monstruous flying infantry at some ranges.
    Wouldn't a bloodthirter with a single unit of harpy be able to do a better job at taking care of flying monsters ? The harpy are a bonus/bait if the speed of the bloodthirster is lacking.

  • @Keln02
    @Keln02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the soul grinder, with it's 75 speed, could almost count as skirmish cav hahaha (shades have about the same range if I recall)

  • @Lashus
    @Lashus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! More of these please!

  • @adammauer4992
    @adammauer4992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started last night let’s gooooooo

  • @deamonmindgaming2054
    @deamonmindgaming2054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh I have been waiting for this

  • @Flydog1986
    @Flydog1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these army guide's great work keep it up!

  • @Olav_Hansen
    @Olav_Hansen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That artillery piece: 12 ammo seems like it'd be a pretty desirable unit in multiplayer. You can let it fire at whatever is valuable, shoot away ~ 2/3 of that units health and then head into melee to recharge ammo. In most situations it doesn't make much sense to try and charge it down in a lot of situations (especially when supported by chaos halberds) so it could be a reliable piece.

  • @Xavis0
    @Xavis0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Skarbrand really needs to learn how to hold axes properly... You get more power if you hold them at the end.

  • @Vante21
    @Vante21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been wating for this!!!

  • @MustbeTheBassest
    @MustbeTheBassest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The blood letters look really good

  • @empyrean2569
    @empyrean2569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Khorne is the less original of the 4 chaos gods to me but I must admit those units are pretty neat.
    Still I intend to start a campaign with the Chaos undivided.
    Custom your own Demon-Prince is an argument I can't ignore.

    • @adammclaughlin845
      @adammclaughlin845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You said it perfectly, although I favour Nurgle and Slaanesh, so.picking my first LL will be tough. The undivided DP gives access to all units, so probably the best choice to atart with.

  • @feenix999
    @feenix999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    these videos are amazing info thanks!

  • @anjarsurya3047
    @anjarsurya3047 ปีที่แล้ว

    adding unit price would be great for the vid

  • @DarkMegaPlague
    @DarkMegaPlague 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Skarbrand cant fly"
    Me: no shit,,,, those wings has holes.

  • @warweasel2330
    @warweasel2330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Khorne Chaos Furies are interesting, as most flyers are high on defense and low on offense, to just tarpit the archers or artillery, these are the opposite, so makes me wonder the difference in play.

    • @PUNishment777
      @PUNishment777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Made to kill the ranged infantry or shred monsters

    • @ruukinen
      @ruukinen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harpies are the same though? High melee attack and weapon strength with garbo melee defence.

  • @Huczek141
    @Huczek141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cultist of Khorne looks unimpressive as hell. A hero that will be able to kill dozens of regular chaos warriors looks just as wimpy as regular norscans. Now compare him to Exalted Heroes, who have the armor fitting for one of the most badass chaos warriors.

    • @Lynch2507
      @Lynch2507 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      they're probs gonna have some purpose on campaign, like maybe a skill tree that buffs the warriors while the bloodreaper buffs the deamons. as for looks... well yeah he IS just a cultist.

    • @Huczek141
      @Huczek141 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lynch2507 Then why is just a humble cultist above a freaking warrior who could break him in half by mere looks?

  • @sunttu333
    @sunttu333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It'll be an absolute struggle to get all my Khorne units painted painted before the game launches. Gotta paint the start collecting box and a Bloodthirster

  • @chheinrich8486
    @chheinrich8486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally a proper resarched roster video

  • @Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.
    @Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a mental image of the Cultist of Khorne looking in the mirror at the hairdressers and saying "Well it's not *quite* what I was after..".

  • @DarkKreig
    @DarkKreig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have definitely been looking forward to seeing this series make its glorious return :)

  • @macb6528
    @macb6528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it might be good to use the hounds to catch and hold stuff while the slower units get into the fight

  • @Nozdormu1982
    @Nozdormu1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Khorne will be a blast :p

  • @jadenzekari9498
    @jadenzekari9498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance that once Immortal Empires comes out, you will be remastering some of the older faction roster videos? (Like Empire) The way you do the close-ups in these videos while explaining the units is awesome, would love to see them the same way, and how they stack up in the final game! (I know some older factions have close-ups like Vamp Coast, just would be really cool to see all of them :) )

  • @ABODA1988
    @ABODA1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing content mate

  • @salazar5100
    @salazar5100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the heroe's ultra goatee

  • @Pebble_Collector
    @Pebble_Collector 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait Skarbrand can't fly? He got the Ostrich treatment too? :(

  • @austinbishop7430
    @austinbishop7430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna see Skar Vs Koleck. Sorry if I miss spell.

  • @momysbigcohones7255
    @momysbigcohones7255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like they dont have any expandable units. Like all of them look like they can crush entire armies by themselves.

  • @greenbubbl
    @greenbubbl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy fucking shit those spawns are abhorrent. I love it.

  • @KaptifLaDistillerie
    @KaptifLaDistillerie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg the Chaos warriors are gorgeous

  • @omegon2540
    @omegon2540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Khorne gets another lord
    I think it’s either skulltaker or Kornes good boy

  • @danny123451
    @danny123451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @5:52 Zerk why didn't you tell us you got a part in the game?

  • @Alaskaalien
    @Alaskaalien 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the Khorne units "Kill X number get buff" mechanic work with the unit size option?

  • @WizardOfAtlantis
    @WizardOfAtlantis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Pure rage, anger and hatred.
    No, that's not just my feelings about elves..."
    Ha!

  • @manifoldexultant7331
    @manifoldexultant7331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any one else mildly disappointed by the stats of khornate warriors? they look like they're gonna be difficult to make viable.
    Khorne beserkers were one of my favourite Dawn of War units and they were super usefull at, you know, murdering

  • @zombos22222
    @zombos22222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    khorne warriors of chaos are looking way more like warhammer 40000 space marines and warriros of chaos chaos warriors fit way better in this medieval setting with the classic look which still fit better into this age really weird to see this modern cyber armor already in this time. all in one really cool design but i am more interested about the original chaos invasion diplomacy between khorne demons warriors of chaos and friends.

  • @exactinmidget92
    @exactinmidget92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Khorne with magic attack? i hope that's a place holder that will get swapped for AP damage.

  • @minhnguyen5888
    @minhnguyen5888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's even crazier when you think Aenarion soloed all four of the Greater Demons. Skarbrand only already is super powerful

    • @sydorovich2532
      @sydorovich2532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't he have strongest star dragon to help him too?

  • @adamjessup6878
    @adamjessup6878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish Arbaal the Undefeated was one of the lord options

  • @GrassMudHorseLand
    @GrassMudHorseLand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, the Bloodthirsters' weapons strength got nerfed hard