Christians React GHOST BC Con Clavi Con Dio!!!
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Ghost not stepping out of their comfort zone?? You know this is from their 1st album right? Tobias is not following a formula. The development from Opus through Prequelle is not similar to other bands. I think having a very wide range of influences helps bands in their own development.
Tobias has said in interviews candlemass was one of their biggest influences
Uriah Heep is one of their biggest influences. Particularly on Opus Eponymous. Just listen to the song 'Return To Fantasy' by Uriah and you'll see what I mean.
It is a formula... it's not the Michael Jackson, Taylor Swift or whatever Motley Crew , KISS formula... but it is a formula.... it's paying homage to his influences... you can totally hear oh this one is supposed to be megadeath, that one R.EM, let's make a song that sounds like "take it to the limit" by The Eagles etc etc... and a lot of original and experimental as well mixed... and dude, they are super creative, Tobias is a genius, but he is reworking older songs as well aa coming with new ones...
The song is from their first album. There was no wave to ride at that time...
Right? They should really do more research of the context of these songs in regards to what album they're from. The band was very much underground at the time when this song and Opus was released. There was no hype train to carry.
Still arguably one of their best albums ngl
@@dillonfehr7545 Personally I think it IS their best
@@ashenone6166 for me it's either opus or meliora. I'm hoping their next album is heavier and dark like opus
@@dillonfehr7545 The lead guitar breaks on Opus are perfect. Nothing else in the catalogue really gave me that same feeling.
Reacting to Ghost - "Monstrance Clock" is an absolute necessity.
Would also recommend Spirit.
spirit, absolution now for ghuleh kids !!!!!! ;)
Monstrance
But that live version from Hellfest 2016!
But LIVE!
21:55 Exactly right! Tobias has said numerous times in interviews that the band is more about human nature than anything. They’re a mock-satanic band, meaning that they use extremely played-up and exaggerated satanic imagery to give critique in human nature. This song shows how human nature makes people quick to mock their creator, the song Mummy Dust talks about how we as humans make money almost like a god in a way and worship materialistic ideals, and then songs like He Is shows how quick humans are to fall into dark temptation when they are lost and seemingly have no “Light” presence (or God). That’s why I love this group even as a Christian myself. They’re extremely intelligent in their songwriting and they say some really important things about human nature.
Something you didn't touch on - The line "Satanas, We are one out of three, Trinity". Ghost are saying that THEY'RE the false prophet or the (un)holy Ghost. Hence the band name Ghost. Opus Eponymous as an album is all about the birth of the Antichrist. So, Ghost are the unholy ghost/false prophet who're trying to lead you into following the Antichrist. Thought it was obvious but there ya go. Also, in the context of their discography, this is the first ever Ghost song (first full song, first record) and yeah the lyrics aren't as complex as some of their other songs. That's because Con Clavi Con Dio is their mission statement (Lucifer, we are here).
Don't agree with Sori at all when she says that all Ghost songs sound the same. He Is for example sounds nothing like Mummy Dust (another one you really should do). Tobias' voice often sounds the same, instrumentally though? Plenty of variation within Ghost.
Vin my man, you want a heavy Ghost song? Try Mummy Dust and Faith. Possibly their 2 heaviest songs. Gonnne ;)
No doubt
This guy knows what he’s talking about.
Actually it's about the presence of the Anti-Christ,their second album Infestissumam is about the birth of the Anti-Christ. Because the last song on the album Genesis has a double meaning,last song - end Genesis- the beginning, so meaning the beginning of the end is near. Then with the second album, the Anti-Christ is born, and the song Year Zero is like starting completely over,as the Anti-Christ taking over.
@Kim Layman Nope. Opus is about the birth. Tobias (a nameless ghoul) has even said so. Check the wikipedia articles. Genesis refers to the birth of the Antichrist. Plus, the song before that (Prime Mover) talks about the Antichrist being conceived. "Clad in cloak, secretive nun. Bearing the old one's bastard son".
Then for Infestissumam, he said the following - 'Everything on the first record was about a coming darkness, an impending doom. Whereas the new record is about something present, and literally, the new record deals with the presence of the Anti-Christ'.
@@neonspec You are correct. After going back over the lyrics, I see I made a mistake.
how can you say they're following a formula? this is the 1st song on their 1st album
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Because their songs are just older songs reworked... that's their formula
@@luisutil9070 give me one song of opus eponymous (first album) and impera (most recent real album) that are rip offs. I'll wait.
@@PhillipMoore-td5yiare you for real? ... even Tobias acknowledged this... even the cover of Impera is homage to Iron Maiden... I wouldn't say rip off because it's a wink wink... just like "Mary on a cross" is the riff from "The Trooper" , "The Future is a foreign land" is an REM tribute... tons and tons are old classics reworked in Ghost's style.., do you seriously don't get that?
@@luisutil9070 of course. I 100% agree. There's a reason they got Joe Elliott after all. I'm sorry I thought you were saying that they ripped off their own older music like ACDC or Megadeath. I didn't know about the Rem on although I did think it sounded like them. Thanks for that!
Hold up. I'm glad you like the Chorus part, but you are missing the point.
In Catholic mass, the Priest says a passage, and the entire MASS responds.
So when Papa says Si amo con clavi,
The mass says Si amo con dio
This song is one of their heaviest, and you missed one very important thing.
This was SONG 1, ALBUM 1
VERSE 1. ( Let that resonate for a second) PAPA Emeritus 1 purposely starts out the "Ghost journey" with saying LUCIFEEEEEEEEEER, WEEEEEEEEE ARE HERRRRRRREEEE. This is the beginning of a now 4 Album journey.
This was an absolute call out and a statement. Also, it's made to feel like you are in Mass, and you must respond when you are at the Live Show. When you watch him perform this live, he sings Si Amo Con Clavi, and then points to the crowd, urging us to respond.
So many big points about this first song EVER that you missed.
Enjoy your shows btw.
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Good insight!!
its called " siamo " - we are
Truth
From what I understand the first three main albums (not the EPs) Deal with 1. Invoking or heralding the coming of the Antichrist, 2. His conception and/or birth, and 3. His arrival on the scene.
Opus was actually about the conception and birth of the anti-christ. Infestissumam was about the presence of the anti-christ after his brith. Meliora was more so about the absence of God and the acceptance of the anti-Christ by the masses (which ironically was the album that brought them into the mainstream), and now Prequelle is about surviving the end of times, which I can only assume is linked with the previous acceptance of the Anti-Christ.
Ohh so many Ghost songs I want you to react to!!
Ghost- Faith
Ghost- Jigolo har Megiddo
Ghost- Zombie Queen
Ghost- Monstrance clock
Choose an acoustic version of jigolo though
Agree! Add Absolution, Majesty, and Secular Haze for me.
The Acoustic version of Jigolo is better though.
@@jyggalag9838 I like both versions..each has its own certain charm..chose which ever you wwnt I feel like its a win win situation haha
Year zero
Tobias is a genius
Yup. The more you look into the meanings of the songs and step back to see the big picture of the Ghost project, the more you can see how brilliant it is.
A bunch of Christians looking down & lecturing Tobias Forge haha
I think what happened especially with this first album is that it was supposed to mock Satanism by being over-the-top and cheesy, but Tobias was so knowledgeable on the subject that it actually managed to capture certain forms of Satanism so accurately, it comes across as legitimately satanic and being serious to a lot of people. He kinda took advantage of that on later albums and started putting actual sociological messages behind the satanic lyrics.
I like this analysis....I think you're right
Ghost ghuleh/zombie queen plsss
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SiriusFM live version! :D
Yessss, please!
Yess the acustic version, please Vin and Sori!
Their finest moment. A 50s surf song.
Con Clavi means Reunited, like the reunion that happens to choose a new Pope. So the translation is like:
We are together
We are with God
We are with our dark God
Drag Ropes by Storm Corrosion it's gonna give you hours of debate, the video it's a masterpiece, and as you guys talk about religion, it's a must see. Storm Corrosion is: Mikael Akerfeldt (Opeth) and Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree). Love your opinions and thoughts :)
The literal translation is "with nails, with god"
Yes to Drag Ropes!
alison you are completely wrong. This is the lyric
siamo con clavi= we are with nails
siamo con dio= we are with god
siamo con il nostro dio scuro= we are with our dark god
The band no longer uses BC, which was only used in the states and only for like a year because of a naming rights issue with another band.
Joel Brodrick they know
Then why does it say Ghost BC?
Joel Brodrick probably to narrow searches. They have been told many times and have addressed it
So first of all, as a Christian who loves metal (and Ghost!), I really enjoy this channel. I don't always agree with you guys, but I always learn something from your intelligent discussions. But I just have to comment on the beginning of the video when you mentioned the new president of Planned Parenthood.
I haven't seen the exact comment you were referring to, but as someone who works in reproductive healthcare and is passionately pro-choice, I just want to give my two cents about why an immigrant from China might want to run Planned Parenthood. It's important to understand that pro-choice people in general don't *just* advocate for the right to have an abortion. We advocate for each and every woman to make her own reproductive choices, whether that's to have many children or no children, to have an abortion or use contraceptives, etc. I am equally against forced abortion as I am against forced birth (though as an American, I'm especially concerned about the right to have an abortion), and I don't know any pro-choice person who feels differently. And while I don't know Dr. Wen personally, I'd imagine that she feels the same way.
Anyway, I hope you guys see this comment. This was not meant to preach at you in any way, just to give you the pro-choice perspective :) Keep up the great videos! Oh, and to echo many other Ghost fans, I'd love to see a reaction to Monstrance Clock!
I see it. To make an equivalence between “forced abortion” and “forced birth” is a category error. We host a live call in show, if you’d like to have a conversation that’d be great
@@VinAndSori category error? It's about who should decide over a woman's body. Anti-choice people generally want the state to enforce laws which denies a woman control over her body, because they see the outcome as immoral, usually for religious reasons. But the thing is, you can see something as immoral, but still leave it up to people themselves to make those choices, based on their own moral system and world view, and not use the state to make the choice for them and enforce their morality upon others.
@@ThomasLG aborto is a crime
I'm not sure why Sori thinks that all Ghost songs sound the same. The songs on their first album "Opus Eponymous" sound nothing like the songs on their latest album "Prequelle". Does "He Is" sound like "Rats"? Or does "Elizabeth" sound anything like "Dance Macabre"? Ghost does have a distinct sound, but their songs are vastly different from each other.
What I like about ghost is that all albums are different sounding, all their own identity. Truly the feeling of an church like entity.
Also 'con clavi' can also mean 'Fault God'.
Good video guys
This is the first actual song on their first album. It's the introduction to what Ghost was to become. That's why I suggested it to y'all. I love their first album.
It's funny with these two listening to Ghost. When the music starts, they're like, yeah... this sounds good. With looks of surprise and pleasure on their faces. The words kick in, and they turn to a serious look, and no joy.
P.S. Ghost is heavy, no doubt. And very versatile ranging from 80's hair band pop, to 70's metal and back to 90's and on hard rock...
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When the song goes "Siamo conclavi", they are saying, we are in assembly, in catholic religión a conclave, is the reunión of cardenals to choose a new bishop.
They don't go outside of their sound? Wait 'til you hear Prequelle. I think you guys will like it
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Hi guys, i think abortion has to be legal if the life of woman is in risk or if woman was raped or if the kid won't be healthy. It's the right of the woman to decide, not church. Also it's not again christians, if you don't want abortion because of belief, it's your choice but please don't take the choice from other people with other beliefs.
If the woman was raped, the child can be put up for adoption, the child should not have to suffer for the actions of the father. I think it is a very bad notion that so called rights are used to eliminate personal responsibillties and consequences, because convenience and expediency are rated higher than what is moral and right. However, if the womans life is really at risk and her life is beyond saving if she continues the pregnancy, it would be logical and ethical to end the pregnancy with an abortion. #prolife
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at least you accept one of reasons, but there are states in the world with strong church lobby which even in that case denied abortion and rather let mother died. I understand and respect your reasons but what is moral and right could be different for you and for others. Abortion is wrong, everybody know, it's not solution, but in special cases it is acceptable even by morale. I'm happy that I live in country where church isn't strong so we have liberal laws and we are really free. You don't have to be church fanatic to live according to ten commandments
*Ghost ghuleh zombie queen* please
I agree.
It's been a long time coming for that one
The best
acoustic version would be sooooo fun to watch
Ghost's most epic song :D
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Studio version is the way to go. The live recording is just too low quality and it would ruin a first listen imo.
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That "Supernintendo" part is one of the reasons I love Ghost! Quite a few of their songs remind me of videogames from the 80's - not a bad thing at all in my book :D
Stereotype23 Tobias loves the 80s
same here, it reminds me of a spooky sort of scooby doo type of sound. I hear that's why a lot of metalheads don't like Ghost but that's one of the things that I personally love!
Damn y’all missed out again on “Life Eternal” from Ghost. Y’all gotta listen to it. So amazing
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I've requested this one numerous times. I don't think they listen to their TH-cam subscribers. They only seem to care about their patroens
Yeah
Ghost- Faith from the new album is FIRE!!!
Ghost tour hits east coast in December...you should really check out their live show. Very entertaining and worth it.
Ghost - Faith !!!
LOL, just thinking of Ghost doing a George Michael cover now... Sorry.
Epica - Consign to Oblivion (live at the Zenith)
Monstrance clock!
Ghost... once again... goood.
Tobias Forge knows alot.
You have Ghost, you have everything.
This is off of their first album Opus Eponymous....which also had Ritual and Elizabeth. It is a very different sound than say Meliora (which has Cirice and Square Hammer) and their newest album Prequelle.
only the Meliora Deluxe version has Square Hammer in it, originally it's on the Popestar EP. And yes, every album sounds very different from one another, which is totally calculated ahead of time by his genius mind!! :)
Ah yes you are correct. I have the Meliora Deluxe version. I always forget the last 5 tunes are basically Popestar.
@@derrickshultz6800. No problem, I also have the Deluxe version but I had to buy the EP just for the album art and awesome presentation. No regrets! Lol
If you want to hear something different listen to Mummy Dust
This is Ghost at its best and most purest form. The only GHost album I listen to on a regular basis. I also play drums to the entire album for a good work out. Good stuff.
Good work. Now try to listen to Prequelle from start to the end. So you get the whole idea of that concept album.
The Super Nintendo comment was funny, a lot of fans often say that ghost is just Scooby-Doo chase music haha
You guys have definitely started to like Ghost on permanent basis. HAIL SATAN.
Just joking :D But they really have very unique musical style, and its amazing.
Great stuff guys. You should check out a live video of Ghost next time. It would be great to see you guys react to their live theatrics
Just had discussion with my son: which is your favorite Ghost song?
Mine: toss between faith & Elizabeth
His: toss between absolution and dance macabre.
I think I have raised a good son lol😂😂
Since this is from their first album I guess you could say they were just "discovering the formula" rather then following it :P. And although I love Ghost I do feel this is more about the "shock" than the "poetry"
React ghost monstrance clock
Ghost - Faith
Ghost - Prime Mover
The heaviest ghost song is FAITH, so good highly recommend.
Heaviest?
@@jyggalag9838 yeah, you could argue it's mummy dust but I mean... mummy dust does not have the strongest lyrics.
@@Blaqksails2000
Strongest Lyrics don't make a song heavy, and why does that matter?
@@jyggalag9838 well i'm not going to like a song depending on how heavy the song is, faith is one of their heaviest whilst being a pretty damn good song.
@@jyggalag9838 mummy dust is not heavier than faith, mummy is just pure 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
I suggest ghost-mummy dust!
Ghost - Per Aspera Ad Inferi
listen to Sepultura - Territory - Donington 1994
Finally, been waiting for this one
Yeeeesssss I've been waiting. A long time for this, I hope you do more ghost in the future ♥
Please, react septic flesh!, martyrs or maybe portrait of a headless man
Love ur ghost reactions just got off work and excited u have a new vid rock on Vin and sori
Smudge could refer to Ash Wednesday, worshippers attend services at which they receive ashes on their foreheads. The pastor marks the forehead of each worshipper, often saying "Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return."
Where do the ashes come from?
The ashes consist of burned palms from the previous year's Palm Sunday service. The ashes are blessed by the priest.
You guys should do a Magna Carta Cartel song. They are former members of ghost. A couple of my favourites are Hotellus Eviction
The Demon King
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Y'all should review their entire new album "Prequelle"
Doug Ray Been barking up that tree for a while, man.
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hey guys, lets get on some more avatar "smells like a freakshow" \m/
well, better to charge ppl to suck than do it for free, like yourself ::) \m/
and besides, ghost is shit compared to them...chew on that, asshole
They seem to miss a lot of the meanings of Ghost's songs, when a simple search would help. Siamo con clavi refers to a catholic assembly, not coming with nails after Christ. With Latin as with any other language you cannot just literally translate a meaning, that's not how language works.
@Cardinal Copia's Love Slave they did it with HIM's Join Me in Death as well. It seems weird to me that they just don't do a simple search while reviewing these songs, especially with something that is clearly a concept album.
Church of nails
Ghost - faith
That scream at ten minutes in scared the shit out of me.
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Finally you made this song
Love you guys doing some more first album Ghost!!!!!!
I really love this track and Opus Eponymous is IMO one of their best albums. If you two want a good recommendation for another 'heavier' Ghost track, I'd have to say go for Mummy Dust, It's got an interesting message in it, especially considering your recent Pink Floyd review for Money.
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Ghost life eternal
i'm with some other commenters who've brought up ghost's life eternal and witch image. i'm very curious as to what your thoughts are/would be on those tracks, i just imagine they'd spark some really interesting conversations. i know that for me, after being brought up in some evangelical churches growing up, those songs are among the ghost tracks that hit very different feelings.
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10:03 the hell was that?
I think it was a Ghost lol. Idk but it was creepy. It sounded like it said something. I would shit if I heard that.
But this is my favorite song.
I don't think he/they are millionaires at all. It's definitely a formula he has but I feel like he's really satisfying himself with the melodies and songs. Some of the songs are very silly but I think he's just having fun most of the time. Like with "Dance Macabre", Vin said that it was just a money making radio song/single but I really think he was making a fun song. They lost fans with that one I'm sure. Anyway, thank you for this one. First Ghost song I heard and still one of my faves. I think they tried to match this one on the next album with "Per Aspera Ad Inferi" and they tried to match "Ritual" with "Monstrance Clock" the same way. I just think Tobias is having a lot of fun with this whole thing.
Dream Theater - Under a Glass Moon (LIVE score)
Dream Theater - Pull Me Under
Doug Ray better Panic Attack, The Enemy Within, or the Glass Prison. More fast paced and with themes that are more relatable.
Pull me under is kind of an deep cut nowadays, and a pop song for DT standard. Not to diss, just think the first songs they should hear should be more hard hitting and personal.
Those are good suggestions too, I just picked those to start with. They don't do much progressive anything, so I figured they should start off with something more "accessible" to new listeners. I'd love to see them do "the Dance of Eternity" or even "Metropolis pt.1" if they like it.
Doug Ray I agree but those are for further into the genre since, to be honest Metropolis part1 is way to progressive, I like because I like the genre but for a first listener it’s a really boring song
@@Karlos87 fair enough. They just need to do more Dream Theater in general lol
i love how at the end you actually proved the point
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Ghost - life eternal
I really like this song. I'm glad you guys reviewd it.
I love your videos of Ghost. I am a huge Ghost fan. Keep up the Good work. Im also a Christian and your videos a very interesting and fun to watch. Have a nice day. Cheers from Sweden
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The christian churches wouldn't know anything about riding that wave that's made them millions of dollars.
Glad you guys did Con Clavi Con Dio ! Yes it is a short song but the album itself is also quite short. You have done a few songs of that album already like ritual and elizabeth but listening to songs separately does not do Opus Eponymous justice. Ghost heaviest first album should be listened to from front to back in one sitting to fully appreciate what the band is about in my personal opinion. That goes for their other albums as wel. I would reccomend listening to the album first for the alround theme and then dissect it song by song. Nevertheless great review and keep up the good work.
Ghost 'See the Light'
A different song from them, which is part of the new album. You guys will like it.
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Always love the Ghost reactions
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How about a little SCAR SYMMETRY - THE ILLUSIONIST?!
Bathory - Song To Hall Up High / Home Of Once Brave,Bathory - Oden's Ride Over Nordland/A Fine Day to Die,Bathory - Enter the Eternal Fire.
as I promised (although you probably didn't read my comment on your previous Ghost-post), I will keep recommending the following two songs from the band, as they meant to listen together:
Helvetesfönster/Life Eternal. ;)
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Ghost - witch image
I'm a Ghost fan, but I'm also a secular humanist. What if I just like to poke fun at religious ideas because they're ridiculous to me? What if Ghost is just having fun writing satanic tunes because satan is a symbol in popculture that is super edgy? People like edgy, campy stuff. Just because we poke fun at Jesus' crucifixion doesn't tell you anything about our morals. That's just an oversimplification, judging people on a very one-dimensional level.
Clavi is a piece of Byzantine clothing. It is a decorative strip of the dalmatic or tunic of the Byzantine emperors and dignitaries. The clavi descend vertically the upper part towards the lower edge of the tunic. Nail in latin is clavus. Greetings from Spain.
Witnessed Con Clavi Con Dio live in San Diego last week and what I trip that was.
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