If NASCAR had F1 Rules
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- We complain about NASCAR officiating all the time, but it could be so much, imagine if we were governed the way F1 was!
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Dale Earnhardt would have been dead last EVERY week
😂😂😂
Bro would be banned.
@@ProxiProtogenaye nice pfp
@@Zildawolf why thank you
Godhardt Jr would have actually been penalized for 2003 Talladega
OMG. Us NASCAR fans would be LIVID if this actually happened today
You know it!
Yeah!!!
People moan about track limits but if it got enforced they’d moan about enforcement lol
I bought the F1 game so I could play on the Vegas track and boy I got a rude awakening to these dumb penalties. I don't get how people can watch F1 like that, penalized for going off track, hitting cars? Like damn...we NASCAR fans have enough to complain about with officiating these days in NASCAR, but if it was like this? It would be unwatchable like F1 is, just let them race!
Lmao yeah, because f1 isn't a race to show off skill, it's to show off the manufacturers, they are great drivers for sure, but you put every one in a red bull car, the packs would be much closer together
Proof that Jimmie Johnson truly wins in every system
Lmao right 😂
@@DoglegMediaMatt lol
...except the Next Gen 🥲
Holy shit, that scoreboard is hard to look at. XD
It's like watching a tiktok.
Eh, I weridly want that in real life even though NASCAR does not have a team's championship.
Would also have local yellows for sector 1 for Busch’s spin. Maybe a subtitled radio transmission of him yelling “it’s killed”
This is still the greatest finish in road course history.
I miss Ambrose in NASCAR.
As an F1 fan I am very confused how this is seen as great. These guys weren't on the track half the time, what's the point of the lines? Are the lines just suggestions? Can you go off track and gain an advantage? Like in the NFL a receiver can't run outside of the field and then comeback and catch the ball.
@@ztonner5166 wait until you watch an phenoix race, they cut across a huge portion of the apron. But, overall, as long as it's fun, safe and consistent Nascar does not care were the track "starts and ends" except for the daytona yellow lines and the Esses at COTA
@@ztonner5166I guess not cutting through chicanes
@@ztonner5166 NASCAR runs very different compared to F1. As long as you’re clear through the end of the corner, you’re good to go. Doesn’t matter how wide you set up, or how low you come off the track, if you’re over the line, you’re clear.
It works in oval racing because there’s such a huge margin for error, but as soon as you go to a circuit people get confused. The same rules apply.
Remember: this is the series where wrecking is frowned upon, not illegal. Half the things you see drivers do in NASCAR would have them sacked in a week in F 1, but try driving NASCAR like you’d do a formula 1 or endurance car, and you’re going to be a backmarker.
Brad’s Radio: “The 18 turned into me.”
Dales pass in the dirt "Dale Earnhardt penalized for illegal overtake'
Thank goodness NASCAR doesnt follow those rules.
Kyle Busch should have gotten at least 10 seconds at the beginning, 5 for track limits and 5 for unsafe rejoin
FIA: Jeff Gordon added to the Chase
You just picked this race cause it happened to make Jimmie win didn’t you
I can neither confirm or deny 😂🙊
@@DoglegMediaMatt btw im the race director and jimmie disrespected track limits numerous times but hms paid me a quarter mil to stfu
@@DoglegMediaMatt I was indeed happy to see jimmie win in this way:)
I’m gonna show people this next time they complain about NASCAR rules. Like, we have no idea how good we actually have it compared to some other motorsports.
i mean if you can’t have a good race without blatantly cutting corners and crashing yourself into other drivers like bumper cars maybe you’re not a good driver 🤷♂️
@@Pickleman9000slight issue with what your definition of corner cutting is
in most American motorsports the track limit is basically the wall, runoff usually counts as the track
Watchin nascar track limit is just so absurd that i love it
Imagine f1 but it sounds like nascar
Jimmie Johnson won this race
As an F1 fan, THIS IS SOOOOOOO ACCURATE🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Funny but true. I've often thought of this when watching both sports.
you missed a track limits on Ambrose in the penultimate corner.
on turn one would been track limits on bush and Ambrose there.
Dogleg :🔔
Me: im Sooooo Excited for the Chip Gannassi Video...
Dogleg: if Nascar had F1 rules.
Me: oh, ok...This will have to hold us over for now?
Me, 2mins Later : of Course JJ48 won
You knew it would happen 😂
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Honestly, I wish the FIA ran a stock car series, if only so people would have something to directly compare NASCAR with. Maybe some controversial calls would seem less controversial after seeing how 'the other guys' would handle things.
yeah because you can't compare cars where the tiniest millisecond counts to nascar, even though both are fun and interesting in their own way
So now Jimmie gets TWO road course wins that normally would've been Ambrose! (Though the other one was just because he shut his engine off to save fuel during a caution and it didn't turn back on)
48 your winner. NASCAR approves.
We do need track limits, but not like this. I miss when there was grass on the outside of T5.... Yeah, it was perhaps more dangerous (see Jeff Gordon, Jeff Burton, and Sam Hornish, Jr.'s crash in 2009), but it created its own challenge.
At least this would prevent all the guys driving through each other to steal wins. A lot of guys who are so aggressive in their youth, get a championship and then complain about other drivers being reckless would all be gone!
NASCAR is self policing in many ways. If a driver races someone overly aggressively, they can damned well expect the same in return and drivers have long memories. I love the passion in NASCAR, grown men, battling for wins.
Hopefully no time penalties for bumping the guy in front of you unless you spun them off the course.
This is hilarious and awesome. I want more of these
THANK GOD NASCAR DOESNT DO THIS SHIT
I don't know about Brad/Kyle contact, but feels like results would be the same with FIA ruling.
I can see maybe just a couple of investigation notices and "no further action" messages on tv feed, not drivers getting penalties over track condition out of their control i.e. oil leak.
This is approximately a clip from like 2012, maybe 2013
Rubbing is racing. If it ain’t allowed it ain’t racing.
Well these cars are built to take a bit of contact, F1 cars are more sensitive to damage, even as little as missing a front wing endplate can massively impact lap times. I feel like this is controversial but I'd say it's harder and may take more skill to race without any contact.
These are cars designed to run on left turns ovals is a circular motion. Ok Watkins glen is a permanent track but basically 2 ovals in a figure of eight shape and a chicane. Driving on Ovals is different in discipline from road courses and road racing cars like F1 or a touring car is designed better to run on road courses. Take a touring car like a DTM and run it on a Oval and you will see how wild it is. But NASCAR is pushing for more road courses and probably has a different car to do it. In the Factory its like this is the short track car it is built like this. This is the Super Speedway car and it is built like this. So the road course car will be different. Body shape and suspension geometry are the key areas that will be different. But to the basic fan all the cars look the same. It is only in the garage where you will see the difference
I wish more F1 tracks had big overtaking areas. Gimmie a big wide straightaway somewhere on the course and I'm happy, the rest can be tight twists and turns.
@@LesserAndrew This is a misconception that wide sections make overtaking opportunities. There is a racing line where the drivers put the car and it gets rubbered in. Like a field, people walk a shortcut from place A to B and eventually you will have a footpath. Off the line you get chewed bits of Rubber called marbles, and dust and maybe debris and garbage pushed away and blown off line by cars. The ideal place to pass is into a braking zone for a medium or slow turn. Brake later than the driver in front and carry a little more speed through to pass.
I went to Silverstone in 1992 and first place i sat was on the old main straight into turn 1. The stand was nice but cars where a blur going 150-200mph. The best place to watch was the old dog leg where cars came in at a distance slowed down and kind of zig zagged in front. Mostly slowly so you could see the car and who they are. Right in front they lit it up to go fast into last turn. I also watch NASCAR and on the ovals you have 2 or 3 and if it gets wild a 4th that usually leads to a crash. So you have better racing as the driver has a alternate way round. OK you may have to alter setup and give up fuel usage and tire wear up top in turns but that is the sacrifice.
You missed a few track limit penalties lol
But yeah, so glad nascar isn't like f1
To be fair, if F1 cars touch, somebody can die pretty damn fast (though safety changes have helped) or at least crash out, HARD. They also are faster (outside super speedways) - I do agree though, track limits can be a bit much.
Just put grass on the outside of the track instead of more track, and the drivers will not run wide anymore.
Eh, actually, they often try to deal with it with Susage curbs and cars fly in the air wheb they hit them. Heck that even happens in NASCAR.
And even NASCAR has track limits on some tracks. I mean the Yellow Line Rule is a track limits rule.
How you can race like this?.... it's crazy
xD as one who deeply loves both Nascar and F1, this shows why they should be officiated differently, I actually think your penalties were on the nose and make sense for the safety of F1 but oh my god would I be pissed if they were called in a nascar race
I remember watching this live like it was yesterday (i was probably 10 years old)
The end result is the same. You wreck a competitor in F1, they park you. You wreck competitor in NASCAR, your competitor parks you next race. You still need show respect out there no matter the motorsport. (And Busch did park Keselowski in 2013 Kansas Xfinity).
Really? You blame Brad for what happend to Busch hear? I know f1 would but f1 is stupid. Brad was clearly in side of Kyle and Kyle came down on him. What's a more fair way to see this,
Kyle shouldn't have tried to close a hole that was already filled or Brad should have shamed on his brakes to keep Kyle from wrecking him self? Why we putting the responsibility of avoiding contact on the car minding his own business instead of the car making the late move? I don't understand this mind set. It's like blaming the guy who got robbed for being out side with money whare he could be robbed instead of blaming the guy who robbed him. At least to m
They defintely dont park you in f1. They give you 10s. Last year and before it was 5s, but so many people wrecked other ppl and got basically no effective penalty by races end lol. And nascar absolutely will park you if they see something blatant lol. Theyve done it many times
Exactly. Its let to the driver's purview and agency, instead of a Big Brother constantly watching over you and telling you how to drive your car. You can win every single race by wrecking the leader at the last lap, sure, thats within the rules. But the fans and other drivers will let you know the kind of dipshit you are by doing that.
In a way, NASCAR resembles free society, while F1 resembles a North Korea where only the richest families can hope to win.
You missed the track limits at turn 1 for ambrose and busch.
Whats a f1?
Who cares 😂
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Some joke
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Y'all are talking smack, but F1 would be unwatchable if they had NASCAR "rules".
Like, imagine not policing track limits in let's say Paul Ricard. The entire point of a racetrack is that you have to keep the car inside the track limits. Otherwise, it just ruins the track. Like, imagine dudes straight lining it through Radillon at Spa, that would completely ruin the corner. The challenge is to go as fast as possible within the limit.
Same thing goes for overtaking. Clean overtakes are always the toughest, because both drivers must give respect to one another. Anybody can barge through his opponent, or wreck him out of his way. The hard part is getting though without being dirty. A sloppy driver hits doors with his competitor. A great driver can stay half a centimeter from the other car without touching.
Also, F1 cars are fragile, this type of contact would probably ruin the race of both drivers. So even if the rules allowed it, I don't think many drivers would actually do it often.
Dude, man f1 really corrupt your mind in thinking not hitting a competter is bad, like if f1 doesn't exist bet you won't be saying that.
HAHA,, good one.. -NENO, SENT FROM LAPTOP
ngl I feel like nascar with a loose version of F1 rules would be pretty cool for road courses
They already had that with the track limits penalties at COTA this season, and I hated it haha 😂
“Investegation”
If NASCAR had F1 rules: "quick, black flag to all non-British people"
Besides the bump and dump at the start of the video (which should be penalized i believe), the rest was just perfectly good and hard racing.
Dale Jr wins after both the leaders get penalties and Busch gets spun out
sadly Jr was a lap down and finished 28th
@@DarkzyYNS oh I always thought Jr. was in 4th after seeing that finish multiple times
@@NotMattyDYT That's Jimmy Johnson. Dale was the 8 then 88. However they are teammates.
@@stevorules1820no it is dale he was just a lap down
@@nascarfanFlatTire aah meant the 4th car to cross the line then. Ok that makes sense.
Track limits don't mean much in US motorsports.
This is why NASCAR is better than F1, no penalty, no track limits, Just good ol fashioned racing
I agree 100%
Rubbing is racing!
There are penalties and track limits its just with nascar its liberal on how the track limits are and they don't do time penalties just stop and go, passthrough and DSQ
Rallycross would like a word with you
@@imvivalamilo oh yeah they definitely would
5 seconds penalty is a yoke! A yoke!
There would also have been a penalty in turn 1 and another in the 2nd to last corner both for going wide (EVENTHOUGH IT IS PAVED!!!)
I didnt know nascar did races on tracks other than ovals. Thats cool.
Yup! We race at 5-6 road courses a season!
Nascar cup have 6 roadcources
How about if NASCAR had rules at all. 😂
I knew Jimmie would be promoted as winner 😂
I honestly wish nascar would respect track limits more on road courses.
I think the do whatever it takes to win is a great way to do it, but I can understand that!
Honestly I wished Nascar was stricter with its penalties. I want the fastest guy to win, not the guy who spins out his competetion or just cuts corners. But I also think F1 is not strict enough haha. I prefer me some WEC or MotoGP they're much more consistent. Anyways that was my ted talk
Thanks for the input and for watching!
As an F1 fan: do they just not do track limits in NASCAR? Just allow everything as long as you're between 2 walls?
Essentially haha. They have implemented some at COTA in the esses but other than that it’s the Wild West haha
Unlike F1, its left to the driver's agency. Its a known cheap way of winning, so if you base your career on that, fans and other drivers will let you know.
Plus, its still a tradeoff, NASCAR tires are under a lot more stress than F1 tires are due to lopsided asymmetrical geometry of the car and the track. So if you decide for a nice stroll through the grassland, i dont think your crew chief would appreciate that.
This is absolutely hilarious and true
5s to Ocon
I found about 8 penalties hahaha
0:26 erm akctually brad didnt deserve that penalty because in 0:08 you can see kyle block brad while he was giving him all the space he could
I mean I was always a 48 fan so works for me 🤷♂️🤣
When real rules come to nascar
The FIA really is the worst thing to happen to motorsports
It’s far from a good way to govern imo but that’s just an opinion!
Yeah this is what drives me crazy watching nascar.
It’s entertaining!
While fair, one of things that drives me crazy about F1 is how they investigate everything. Even things that should be black and white. Look at that stupid Miami sprint. K-Mag cuts the chicane. Do that in NASCAR at somewhere like Charlotte and you are forced to stop in a designated area or else you get a drive through penalty. It doesn't take laps for someone to say "yeah, he cut the chicane". You did or you didn't. Hamilton speeding in the pits? Took till the end of the sprint to get a penalty. NASCAR? car isn't even through turn 2 and they have been given their penalty (tail end of the longest line if under yellow or a drive through if under green).
Also, the bs that involves "my car was ahead here at the apex so I get the corner". No. You take the inside line then you get the inside line through the whole corner. You can run the outside car out as far as you want as long as you give them room on the track. Unless you are fully past the car then your line is one car width inside the track limits. The whole basically outbreaking yourself to get ahead and blocking the outside car from making the corner crap that Verstappen did infuriates me (though he sure doesn't need it this year).
How's that playoff treatin you? While you're at it, tell me all about how you love commercial cautions
Passing…. Oh sorry didn’t mean to scare you 😂
@@DoglegMediaMatt lmao at least wwe fans don’t try and tell ufc fans that it’s an actual sport
Just screw the track limits at the beginning aye 😂
nah, FIA will take forever to give the penalty
This is the main reason I don’t watch F1
The only way Jimmie could win this year
Lmao this is gold
I would like to see track limits on NASCAR road circuits. It would definitely be an interesting twist.
hey matt what did u think about larson winning today? i think buescher shoulda won
There’s definitely a lot of controversy on that one!
Jimmie would’ve finally won at Watkins Glen
Shows how much babied F1 rules really are compared to other motorsports.
For this reason NASCAR is better than F1.
F1 has been a joke for 5-10 years. Every *ucking contact and EVERY pursuit to have some entertaining battles are penalized.
Hey at least Jimmie won lol
So nascar is glorified bumper car racing. Really the only series that track limits are ignored.
It’s truly do what it takes to win
NASCAR would be better if it was more like IMSA
I don’t agree but hey that’s just an opinion!
We don't need another boring series like F1 and Indy car. They're as much fun as watching paint dry. Give me the balls to the wall, beatin' and bangin', risk takin' NASCAR any day.
Indycar is very fun
@@JordanRunge14 if you enjoy it, cool. I tried to watch it, but couldn't get interested. Just my opinion
I'm not the boss of anyone else's opinion.
Why F1 will never ever be superior. A guy could fart and F1 would penalize him
As opposed to just wrecking people and having zero consequences
@@jordanfollett1675
You obviously don't watch much NASCAR. You intentionally wipe someone put, you're on the bench for a week
No bullshit just racing. Just like the racing gods would want it.
F1 has some stupid rules ngl…
lmao not allowed to wreck other drivers/blatantly cut corners is stupid. says something about nascar drivers if they can’t make a pass without crashing half the field 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
The WWE or racing
If you want to watch WWE on wheels I suggest watching monster trucks
Then NASCAR drivers would be over indulged cry babys too!
That's why Nascar is better than F1 for once
i'd be ok with it.. a driver is really good if he can be Vary fast within track limits. if they have to keep going Everywhere just to win then they are not really great drivers... this is why IMSA/WEC is getting better and better. more brands, more drivers, more skill, more tech. NASCAR and F1 are trash, Only 2-3 Brands. Cost are VARY high, Single Drivers, Nascar has vary little Tech so no inovation what so ever. F1 has alot of tech but they are for the Elite Spoiled groups. IMSA,WEC are top dogs.
I complain about our rules but man we have it good compared to some other racing series!
Dude Nascar owns IMSA lol
why is f1 always living rent free in nascar fans heads
F1 fans just gotta try and convince the world they aren’t boring 😂
@@DoglegMediaMatt It’s not F1 that’s different it’s NASCAR that does things differently. Most racing series globally have rules similar to F1. NASCAR is the only series where it’s okay to wreck another car. Even IMSA is more similar to F1 and they’re owned by nascar.
@@Michael-pi8ps which one is more exciting to watch tho?
@@Michael-pi8pswhich one is existing?
I would watch NASCAR if they did that. It's just a childish sport at the moment.
We can agree to disagree, but man it’s a lot more fun to watch
This is why I don't watch Nascar
You’re missing out!
Booooooooo F1
nascar fans always trying too hard attempting to convince people f1 is boring basically begging for attention from f1 community its always weird pettyness trying to act better than the other 😂
F1 dose suck. And it is boring. Iv tried and it's unwatchable. Like worse than baseball or soccer. The FIA and how they police the series is part of the reason. I'll never understand Why the FIA Believe that If the car you're trying to pass Just comes down to get the Apex.Anyway, like you're not there and hits you somehow your fault for not slamming on your brakes and jumping out of their way? Avoidable contact. Yes, if you lift or slam on your brakes, you avoid contact. But why is the burden For avoiding contact on the car not doing anything wrong? Why isn't it on the car that squeezed the passing car?
It's ok for things to be different. Just enjoy racing for what it is.@@robertstone9988
@@robertstone9988most racing series have rules similar to F1. Even in IMSA which is owned by nascar
At least we don’t sell $180 Nachos
@@DoglegMediaMatt yeah there only 30 bucks cheese is extra