9 years later and getting cooler!! I just picked up a 2014 sedan for 17k with 14k miles!!! My first diesel and its been nothing short of amazing so far. The gas mileage has been great. It's by no means a "fast" car but it's got a way of making it feel a lot quicker than the numbers would have you believe. At least the hp numbers. The low down torque really makes it fun and it just feels like a solid car thus far. I think this is for sure is a diamond in the rough these days. The auto trans is splendid! I wish i had the wagon but couldn't pass up on the low mileage.
Still a great review and although VW ruined things for everyone else, a good well engineered (and thus good exhaust) turbodiesel drivetrain still is compelling, not just for mpg numbers but also for sheer torque and ease.
In 5 years: Wagons are admittedly pretty subjective. I do love SUVs but I also *love* Sport wagons, but not everyone does. If Diesel however is not HUGE in the USA by then, we are truly idiots. The MPG is worth switching to diesel and with the sweet turbodiesels available, you're crazy not to consider one.
We drove this car model with 2 passengers who both can drive, we go over I70 over the night from Denver to Kansas City which is about 600 Miles used 80% of the fuel tank only. We weren't trying to go Eco mode at all, it was normal plus it is fall so we have AC and seat heating on low at 3 seats. Needless to say, my friends 328D cost him nearly 70K Canadian Dollar but it is barely noticeable on its price tag. I think after this trip it kind of lock him in this car till it dies.
I think they reupload it because they have somehow make a mistake on the diesel vs gas pay back period. They use $3.6 for gas and $3.9 for diesel. But the 328i will NOT run on 87, so they need to adjust the whole thing (hence the line COMPARE TO MIDGRADE/PREMIUM in the video), I think they have calculated 3.7 years (15k miles/ year) yesterday. Maybe thats the reason, other thab that bit, everything was the same
I'm disappointed that wagons are not sold in North America. I loved my dad's old Ford Focus wagon. The wagon is just as practical, if not more practical than a crossover. They're spacious, manoeuvrable, fuel efficient, and you can get AWD on some of them. This just brings up the question of what's the point of a crossover over this anyways? You're paying more for a vehicle that likewise cannot go offroad...
Dennis Xu There are plenty of wagons sold in North America, but all the ones I know of are premium vehicles (BMW 3-series wagon, Mercedes E-series wagon, Audi A4 wagon, Volvo V60). Toyota sold the Matrix for a long time and some of the Prius models are sort of a wagon. The Hyundai Elantra hatchback is also close to being a wagon, but very small. Subaru sells crossovers (Crosstrek & Forester) that are long and look like wagons, but with a ground clearance like awagon.
I guess the point is just that it is not "cool" in the US. You know, Audi has got an RS6 .. wagon, which basically a car that could do everything, since it has got it all. But still, people would still buy an X3 without AWD, because it is an SUV, and that is cool. You can even put an underpowered engine in there !
I'm European and I love diesels, but this diesel makes little sense in the US, at least as a sedan. I see that you guys only get the 328i and 328d wagon, but in sedan form a 320i would make much more sense at 6K$ less. I also don't get why your 328d (181HP) (not sold in Europe) is less powerful than our 320d (184HP). Here the price difference between a 320i and a 320d is only around 3K$ and not 6K$. For a 6K$ price difference we get a 325d (221HP), so also don't get why there's such a big premium over there.
Emissions are also a factor. The only way for diesel cars to meet EPA Tier 2 and later US NOx emissions standards is to use urea injection SCR, adding extra upfront and running costs/hassle. US engines are also tuned differently for emissions, at the cost of power and fuel economy. On the other hand, diesel cars could meet Euro 5 and sometimes even Euro 6 emissions standards without urea aftertreatment. Even Euro 6, phased in years after US Tier 2, still allows several times more NOx than the US standards. Combined with diesel fuel being more expensive than gas, diesel cars ended up not being more economical overall to operate in the US.
In Europe and other markets it's the 320d, it's called a 328d for North America because "Biggest is best", a 328i in North America is still a 328i in Europe.
Bmw's have a stunning exterior, but the company seriously needs to step it up when making interiors. Not only does the dash look horribly outdated and ugly, the materials used are cheap and low quality.
Watching this reminded me why I never liked BMW. Seriously even Audi & Mercedes is more generous when it comes to standard equipment these days. However a diesel wagon is still a very cool car & definitely better than any SUV in existence.
jim cherkas VW Dieselgate killed the market for diesels. The only market for diesels is trucks (Ford Superduty, Nissan Titan, Dodge Ram, Chevy Silverado) for towing heavy trailers.
Should have been a 330d with inline 6. While it is true that some American spec cars are ugly, you can always change the parts yourself such as the lights
$60k for a sport wagon with under 200 hp and under 300 lb of torque. I don't care what gas mileage it gets I'm buying a cts-v wagon for the same or less
atb102798 please enlighten me on what bothered you so much about my comment? Besides the gas mileage, I don't see what justifies a $60k price tag. It's just my opinion no reason to get your panties in a bunch.
You see, that is why American cars are usually described as being bad, since they usually have zero handling, zero quality, and 1 big engine. But that is OK. Don't be surprised that in Europe, really nobody buys American cars. Cause they are : too big, consume way too much, have cheap quality (everywhere, actually, except the engine). So, choose.
![ตีสิบเดย์ [FULL] | ครอบครัวสะท้านทุ่ง "นางบี & อ้ายสติ๊ก"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/A1rhYcxxNtA/mqdefault.jpg)
5 years later, and I am still loving this vehicle.
Have you had any issues with your car?
Yeah but wagons are no longer in style, and car manufacturers stopped making diesel sedans because of the VW Cheating scandal
:-(
Brian Cooley makes this worth watching
9 years later and getting cooler!! I just picked up a 2014 sedan for 17k with 14k miles!!! My first diesel and its been nothing short of amazing so far. The gas mileage has been great. It's by no means a "fast" car but it's got a way of making it feel a lot quicker than the numbers would have you believe. At least the hp numbers. The low down torque really makes it fun and it just feels like a solid car thus far. I think this is for sure is a diamond in the rough these days. The auto trans is splendid! I wish i had the wagon but couldn't pass up on the low mileage.
Cooley's back! And Cooler than ever!
Don’t you mean Cooley than ever?
Its five years already cooley what do you think?
lol Diesel is banned hahaha
Diesel isn’t banned. But they are required to meet the same emissions standards as gasoline cars.
Glad the break even calculation is updated! Good work CNET!
Although this is a great review and a fantastic car, any review that has Cooley featured somehow always makes them better!
Great choice of car to look at more closely, and excellent review!
Still a great review and although VW ruined things for everyone else, a good well engineered (and thus good exhaust) turbodiesel drivetrain still is compelling, not just for mpg numbers but also for sheer torque and ease.
Hey, it's 6 years. BMW discontinued all wagons in the USA. Dieselgate left diesels flat and things moving to hybrid or electric.
ikr sad
Dam Volkswagen for cheating. They single-handedly killed the diesel market in the U.S
In 5 years: Wagons are admittedly pretty subjective. I do love SUVs but I also *love* Sport wagons, but not everyone does. If Diesel however is not HUGE in the USA by then, we are truly idiots. The MPG is worth switching to diesel and with the sweet turbodiesels available, you're crazy not to consider one.
We drove this car model with 2 passengers who both can drive, we go over I70 over the night from Denver to Kansas City which is about 600 Miles used 80% of the fuel tank only. We weren't trying to go Eco mode at all, it was normal plus it is fall so we have AC and seat heating on low at 3 seats. Needless to say, my friends 328D cost him nearly 70K Canadian Dollar but it is barely noticeable on its price tag. I think after this trip it kind of lock him in this car till it dies.
We are here in 5 years, wagons are still very very cool but Diesel and gas prices are through the roof
VOLKSWAGEN killed the diesel sedan by breaking the law & scaring-off customers
We are truly idiots. Thanks VW.
Yeah but wagons are no longer in style, and car manufacturers stopped making diesel sedans because of the VW Cheating scandal
:-(
Cooley simply your the best there will never be another keep up the good work.
Very elegant wagon
I think they reupload it because they have somehow make a mistake on the diesel vs gas pay back period. They use $3.6 for gas and $3.9 for diesel. But the 328i will NOT run on 87, so they need to adjust the whole thing (hence the line COMPARE TO MIDGRADE/PREMIUM in the video), I think they have calculated 3.7 years (15k miles/ year) yesterday. Maybe thats the reason, other thab that bit, everything was the same
This Is A Test Drive and Overview By CNet Of The 2014 BMW 328d xDrive Sports Wagon #BMW328dxDrive #BMW328d #CNet
I have that same car! Mine isn't diesel unfortunately. I believe it's the same color, Monaco Blue.
Sarah Burns Warman Cool....
Reupload?
Is that a saab 9-3 convertible behind you
I bought a Manual Diesel Wagon in 2020. Used VW with what is essentially a new car warranty.
I'm disappointed that wagons are not sold in North America. I loved my dad's old Ford Focus wagon. The wagon is just as practical, if not more practical than a crossover. They're spacious, manoeuvrable, fuel efficient, and you can get AWD on some of them. This just brings up the question of what's the point of a crossover over this anyways? You're paying more for a vehicle that likewise cannot go offroad...
Dennis Xu There are plenty of wagons sold in North America, but all the ones I know of are premium vehicles (BMW 3-series wagon, Mercedes E-series wagon, Audi A4 wagon, Volvo V60). Toyota sold the Matrix for a long time and some of the Prius models are sort of a wagon. The Hyundai Elantra hatchback is also close to being a wagon, but very small. Subaru sells crossovers (Crosstrek & Forester) that are long and look like wagons, but with a ground clearance like awagon.
I guess the point is just that it is not "cool" in the US. You know, Audi has got an RS6 .. wagon, which basically a car that could do everything, since it has got it all. But still, people would still buy an X3 without AWD, because it is an SUV, and that is cool. You can even put an underpowered engine in there !
Nobody wants to drive their parents or grandparents car (station wagon). So they don’t sell
I'm European and I love diesels, but this diesel makes little sense in the US, at least as a sedan. I see that you guys only get the 328i and 328d wagon, but in sedan form a 320i would make much more sense at 6K$ less. I also don't get why your 328d (181HP) (not sold in Europe) is less powerful than our 320d (184HP). Here the price difference between a 320i and a 320d is only around 3K$ and not 6K$. For a 6K$ price difference we get a 325d (221HP), so also don't get why there's such a big premium over there.
+Krister Falch the us 328d is the same as the european 320d
Emissions are also a factor. The only way for diesel cars to meet EPA Tier 2 and later US NOx emissions standards is to use urea injection SCR, adding extra upfront and running costs/hassle. US engines are also tuned differently for emissions, at the cost of power and fuel economy. On the other hand, diesel cars could meet Euro 5 and sometimes even Euro 6 emissions standards without urea aftertreatment. Even Euro 6, phased in years after US Tier 2, still allows several times more NOx than the US standards. Combined with diesel fuel being more expensive than gas, diesel cars ended up not being more economical overall to operate in the US.
In Europe and other markets it's the 320d, it's called a 328d for North America because "Biggest is best", a 328i in North America is still a 328i in Europe.
You can’t play music via Bluetooth....?
In fact, this is actually have to be 320d, the 535d in US have to be called 530d, and 740Ld should be called the 730Ld. Only USA rebadge these cars.
The BMW PR that decided to give a non-Nav equipped car to CNET (Hello?! CNET!) needs to be fired. Just saying.
My guess is due to rather lack of wagons there were only certain wagons available
Great Review Cooley , waiting the 2015 Hyundai Genesis tho :) ..
No projectors:( my dads base level 99 corrola has reflectors, come on bmw you gotta make projectors standard.
Bmw's have a stunning exterior, but the company seriously needs to step it up when making interiors. Not only does the dash look horribly outdated and ugly, the materials used are cheap and low quality.
That "sport jacket" totally steps in front of the car's attributes. Where at, how much?
Anyone know the song at the very beginning?
+911mporsche all music used in made by CBSi
+RandomVideos links or anything to point me in the right direction
911mporsche nope nothing. everything is made by CBS interactive
+RandomVideos alright man thanks
911mporsche Glad I could help
That was so BMW of you to be refusing to use the turn signals at 4:00.
$60k for a 3-series with a 4-banger? No way...
The E30 M3 was a 4-banger
16 grand in options, you could get an E90 335d for that money
7 years later and both are now like Rhinos
At the verge of extinction.
Yeah but wagons are no longer in style, and car manufacturers stopped making diesel sedans because of the VW Cheating scandal
:-(
Watching this reminded me why I never liked BMW. Seriously even Audi & Mercedes is more generous when it comes to standard equipment these days.
However a diesel wagon is still a very cool car & definitely better than any SUV in existence.
ANY car has got better handling than an SUV
Dats cheap,check the price in Australia
At 0:36... we didn't even need to wait 5 years, diesel is already practically dead unfortunately (though you can still buy the 528d!)
Christopher Lacko diesels Not Dead
jim cherkas VW Dieselgate killed the market for diesels. The only market for diesels is trucks (Ford Superduty, Nissan Titan, Dodge Ram, Chevy Silverado) for towing heavy trailers.
528d???
Dam Volkswagen for cheating. They single-handedly killed the diesel market in the U.S
What's a "deeee-soh"?
What a dumb question
Should have been a 330d with inline 6. While it is true that some American spec cars are ugly, you can always change the parts yourself such as the lights
They had a 335d with inline 6 but it was discontinued in 2011 & replaced with the inline 4 version. Probably to get higher fuel economy
Reuploaded
7 years later... VW killed diesels in the US and BMW dropped their wagons after this generation. Incredibly sad.
Bro nobody wants a wagon 😆
@@kingaza7734 Americans have been fooled into thinking they want SUVs.
Dam Volkswagen for cheating. They single-handedly killed the diesel market in the U.S
I CAN LIFT THE GLASS!?!!
Im back 5 years later. Both of those things are dead.
$60k for a sport wagon with under 200 hp and under 300 lb of torque. I don't care what gas mileage it gets I'm buying a cts-v wagon for the same or less
atb102798 please enlighten me on what bothered you so much about my comment? Besides the gas mileage, I don't see what justifies a $60k price tag. It's just my opinion no reason to get your panties in a bunch.
You see, that is why American cars are usually described as being bad, since they usually have zero handling, zero quality, and 1 big engine. But that is OK. Don't be surprised that in Europe, really nobody buys American cars. Cause they are : too big, consume way too much, have cheap quality (everywhere, actually, except the engine). So, choose.
That's 320d 184hp here in Europe.. BMW USA deceiving people as always.
Hmmm big daddy!
6th comment, pre-301.
aaaaand now i can get one at carmax for $20k lol
Well of course. Used cars always much cheaper than new
Handsome, daddy