Usually it's not the cost of the parts that is prohibitive, it's the cost of labor. When the warranty runs out, find a reputable independent BWM repair shop (I found one that was started by former service technicians from a local BMW dealership, so they're all certified, etc.). They were much less expensive on the labor + they don't nickle-and-dime on every little thing.
Every single thing . What i noticed is your paying double the labor costs . It seems the dealer extorting the costumer for their share .!! If the labor cost is $100 the total labor costs will be $200.
Yep. Was lucky to find one near my house. Told me everything that is in need of replacement in my 100,000 miles X3 But was honest about if they needed replacement asap or could wait a bit. Dealer woulda ripped me on the price.
There are plenty of places where it doesn't detract from value but others where it does not belong. For me it's anything with fluids needs steel and rubber, not plastic. Valvecovers are now common and stump me because I don't know yet on them.
To be fair… this video sums up any luxury vehicle brand. If a car costs 100k to buy new, then its a 100k car that needs 100k type of servicing. Just because you paid 10k, doesn’t make it a 10k car. It’s still a 100k car.
I used to work at a used car dealership in Los Angeles. Used BMWs and Mercedez were usually purchased by people with bad credit. Many of them were repoed because whoever bought it could keep up with car payments when the expensive repair bill came up. We had a 2003 (I think) 7 Series BMW that we sold for about 5k and the dealer made almost 18k profit on it because it got repoed so many times and sold again.
I LIVE IN THE HOOD. My street is solid Mercedes, BMW, Lexus. Not a single Toyota, Ford, Nissan or HOnda. I'm at a loss as to how they afford these cars.
I have a 2018 X3 M40i, bought at 3 yrs old (lease turn in). After my warranty ran out, I was so lucky to find a garage near me that works on German cars. They're honest and reasonable - my oil change cost $135. So when I decide to get another car I'm planning to get another BMW. This is my 2nd one and I love it.
@@bamwa BMWs use synthetic oil, at a shop like Valvoline or Jiffy Lube they charge a premium and it's around $90 to $110, but if you do it yourself it's $40 like you said.
My dad still has his 1984 Corolla and works just fine. No major work done for a 400K mile car. Every 3K miles, replace oil and use premium gas.. My mechanic is Eddie Murphy;s mechanic and he drives a beat up 1982 Corolla. You know a great mechanic when they drive beaters around.
Honestly Toyota with it's quality is the queen of cars. I did have question does your Toyota require a lot of maintenance? I was thinking about buying a luxury car let's seriously how can you beat the quality of Toyota
My wife got a used X2 and we were at the dealership waiting for them to detail it, etc. So we were sitting in the service waiting area and another customer was sitting within earshot. His service rep came over with a clipboard talking about an oil change costing like $500 U.S. but since it was an older model it qualified for a legacy discount that cut the price in half. The customer was so excited to pay $250+ for an oil change. I went home and found the procedure and got the low profile oil filter wrench, new filter element and some Castrol European spec 5W-30 and I'm all in for under $50. Edit: We also got the extended service contract for repairs.
My last BMW was great during the warranty period, then the cash drain began. By the time I had 150,000 miles on it I had already spent nearly 40% of the acquisition cost in repairs. I am sure it would have continued to skyrocket. I sold it with about 151,000 miles on it. No one turned a wench on it but BMW, all repairs documented, garage kept and I got back 5% of what I had paid for it new, yep, 95% depreciation. That was my last BMW, never again.
You have to pick the right BMW and know and use the independent shops that build their business around BMWs business. If you're simply going to drive and go to dealer for everything well...thanks.
I have a 2016 Mercedes-Benz C 300. Thank God I have some knowledge of how to fix my own things. I do my own oil changes filters, air filters, spark plugs changed them out once my car reached a 50.000 mile mark. I also always check my fluids and make sure everything’s up to tiptop. I also change my oil every 3 to 4 months.
My 750i has had many repairs “preventative maintenance “ but I will admit. It’s never let me down. Once my extended warranty gets depleted I will be replacing it with a used Lexus GS or maybe a used 2022 760i. They drive fantastic honestly
used to be a huge lexus fan. but now the latest lexus inside is all plastic-ish too and the lcd screen is horrible to use and looks ugly. lexus went downhill big time from the good old days where everything was leather and nice inside
@@WayToManyAssassins7 series drive like you’re on cloud. That’s why or a huge sofa with outstanding drive control. Is something you have to experience it.
Good video. You point out several of the BMW issues. Same could be said for Mercedes. Some of the German cars are loaded with 70+ computers. We all know how long computers last and they are expensive to replace.
Those are not computers but a Module. The cars run on a Local area network called CAN. Those modules are network nodes assigned to carry out your commands. The modules are plentiful and easily replaceable. I swapped many before. Euro spec ones have many features added that the US ones don't have. Like automatic windows UP when you leave the car. The modules are usually 50 dollars.
Better go to a real car mechanic then go to service you will have less issues/errors. Anything found at service that has an issue or error will cost you a lot + service/taxes.
A lot of people lease these cars with crazy monthly payments thinking they can afford it but reality hits when they don’t even have money to put gas in it. I know a few people like that. Some leased brand new with the monthly payment and insurance taking up half their salary. Others bought used bmw’s with their life savings and don’t even put full coverage insurance on it cause “save a few bucks,nothing will happen” mentality. Flood happens or they get hit by a non insured driver or the car keeps breaking but they can’t keep up cause they don’t have any savings…. A lot of people fake it till they make it but most don’t make it and end up losing a lot of everything over a car.
I worked at a BMW dealer and I fully support this statement it’s so true the amount of people that walk into the dealership but they can’t keep up with payments nor basic maintenance and they always complaining too like bruh if you can’t afford the car don’t finance or lease or rather buy a bmw you can’t keep up with in all aspects ,people always want to look rich or buy the car for the logo and title , it’s really sad & goes to show how society gots it all fucked up people would rather buy a high end luxury brand car go into debt so they can say they oh “I drive a bmw “ than rather taking a step back humbling themselves and saying maybe I should finance or lease something that makes the most sense for the type of income I am making. I’ve had people complain about oh I’ve spent this amount of money you guys should be taking care of me etc like bro if your complaining and bitching so much about payments and everything that comes with owning the car then maybe you shouldn’t own one at all. & some acted so surprised too when they were hit with the bill when their cars were ready to be picked up after being serviced like dawg be ready for anything when we living in this market where prices are sky high .😂
@@charlesl86 I'm going to assume he's exaggerating but walking around any BMW dealership I wouldn't be surprised if they tried billing that for an oil change. Afterall, these are cars with no oil dipstick now.
My 2022 M4 already at 22,000 km had injector problems and the part was $1500 without labour!! Luckily it was covered under warranty - I love BMWs and I’m on my 8th one. I love to feel pain it seems!! These cars aren’t great but the performance is like no other!!!
BMWs is like a love and hate relationship. Owned a 21 Supra for six months and already had a few issues popped up. My previous M cars all left me stranded due to bad ignition coils but damn they're fun to drive.
I've owned my 2008 6 Series coupe for 13 years. It's been fairly reliable, fun to drive and special in the looks department. I'll hold on to it till the end of this decade as I'm afraid to switch to a newer BMW 😊.
167,000 miles on my 2012 335i. Still kickin. Great car. Only problems so far were the oil filter housing gasket, the intake manifold gasket, water pump and coolant overfill tank. I did all of them myself. Still has original brakes although they need to be replaced. Shifts smooth, still has that low end torque power. I can't see myself driving anything else. Next car is a bimmer, no doubt about it.
I have a 2005 Honda Accord with 250,000 miles (400,000 km) on it. Until last month I have never done anything other than scheduled maintenance on it. Last month, after 18 years, I had to replace the A/C condenser. I'm not complaining! From what I hear and read, German cars for all their alleged performance and technology seem to be money pits. I think I can afford them but who want to be visiting the repair shop on a regular basis? I'm probably going to stick with Honda or Toyota forever.
I have a 12 year old Acura with over 100k miles and I have literally never done anything to it that wasn't basic maintenance or a consumable. I go to a good independent mechanic and my 60k mile service was under $300. Everyone I know that has had European cars (BMW X5, Golf R, VW GTI) all have horror stories.
Yes Sr. Your absolutely right when you tell everyone about the downfalls to BMW or any other turbo charged cars. The best made BMWS are natural aspirated engines, less heat, a lot less problems. All race cars who will run turboswill change parts every time they need to, with the budget to do so. Because when it comes to turbos, it's about heat. It's the nature of the automotive beast no other way around it. Great channel with important information for all.
I have also noticed that some just look at the price tag of a bmw, Mercedes etc and think “I can buy it”, but fails to count in the high maintenance costs that u have to pay in order to keep them work and be reliable. So when they realize it, they often cheap out and buy 3th party parts and then when they fail they blame the car, and then they sell it, and the next buyer will buy it and the loop continues. If u take care of the car as scheduled and keep up with the maintenance they wont break down as much.
i agree... i had a similar experience with Mercedes Benz E320 1999... it was a great car... but maintaining it was very expensive. now i have a Camry and i love it
W210 right? Usually nothing will go wrong with them as they are built like tanks. And usually replacement parts are very reasonable and available widely everywhere. Think you have got a lemon
I inherited my father's 2015 BMW 328i in 2021. I just rebuilt the motor on it, costing me $4700. If I had gone to a dealer it would have cost me a lot more to fix.
Love my bmw, 145,000 miles and still driving great, although all the gaskets in the engine start to go bad around 80,000 miles. If your not willing to do the mechanic work on your own don't get a bmw. I did all the gaskets, water pump, and thermostat on my own so I was able to save alot on mechanics. Bad ass cars though!
Same I’m a 41 year old female and I’ve had the x6 3 times because I know how to repair them myself they usually always have the same issues after certain mileage but when you own them you can go into the dealership and get coupons for parts and I never payed over 100 for oil change at the dealership if I didn’t do it myself
I have to say, thank you for contributing to the car industry with your unfiltered opinions ! I always thoughts that German vehicles were a maintainance night mare but ended up getting a B48 and it’s on another level. Get oil change done every 5k and others it’s so much fun !!
It’s all relevant , when I bought my 2016 Cayenne, there was water in one headlight , I got $4000 discount because that’s how much Porsche dealer was going to charge me to fix it , I brought the car home , took out the headlight , dried the moisture with blow dryer , installed new ballast and resealed it with silicone , and voila , works like a charm , cost , $105 … $100 for new OEM ballast (eBay) and $5 tube of silicone … I also replaced camshaft position sensors and solenoids on my S550 , and installed sacrificial harnesses to stop oil from creeping out to ECU and destroying everything , one afternoon work and $500 to prevent $15.000 damage .. that job would cost me around $2000 if I had it done at the shop … so with those cars there is a lot you can DIY , but things you can’t , and you have to take it to the shop , you better hold on to your britches, and have some money saved on the side lol …. ps I’ll have to replace turbos on my Benz eventually, they’re slowly leaking oil … don’t want to talk about that right now lol
Great video, yet disagree with combustion autos no longer "being allowed." The electric mandates I have reviewed specifically reference new car sales. Not even CA is banning combustion autos...new ones simply cannot be sold in CA after a certain date.
Combustion engines ain’t going anywhere. Too much money to be made in both (gas and electric) industries. Plus the electric technology is years away from being efficient enough to keep people rolling down the road. Hybrid should have been the way for manufacturers til they perfect full electric tech.
I owned a BMW 7 series and it was a nightmare. At 40,000 miles the problems started. Everything was breaking. I spent thousands on repairs. My car was in the shop every 3 weeks. Don't buy a BMW unless you get it brand new on a Lease.. That way you can get rid of it before the problems start. Most smart people with money only lease German cars and trade them in after a year. So, yeah those cars are only reliable for the first owner. The people that buy them with miles on them are the ones buying the money pits with no warranties.
The people I know who buy them are wealthy and keep them only a year or two. My experience is that once you start having electrical issues it’s a never ending nightmare. I wouldn’t want one more than two years old. Think how horrible on the environment it is to make a car that essentially is only reliable /economical for two years and then becomes useless. The manufacturer doesn’t focus on long term reliability they focus on initial sales only. Also had a VW Jetta that was one problem after the other till I finally gave it away. I’m sticking with Japanese.
Slightly off topic but I have a friend who bought an AMG SL 550 convertible with 70k miles for $15k. It is a great Supercharged V8 car but it had the hydraulic issues common to German cars with active suspension, not to mention the hydraulics for the convertible roof. He is a very knowledgeable Mercedes guy and had sources for the hydraulic cylinders that were rebuilt with a better grade of seal. This illustrates what many people here are saying. My friend's car sold new for almost $130,000 and he now owns a final example for less than $20,000 and some hard work. This path is clearly not for everybody.
I think that the trick is to go older - cars from the 2000’s especially with the n52 engine are reliable, fun to drive with great sound, amazing handling and most of all, they are authentic in-line 6 road cars
Bought a 2008 328xi wagon, love it. Coming up on 95k miles (bought it at 82k) and the maintenance required but bring it to independent BMW garage. Would never bring it to a dealership for service. Love the n52.
@@mariannagreenlee Agree, I have a 2009 128i convertible with the n52 and Judy over 105k. Been pretty reliable and always fun to drive. Glad you are enjoying your “older” BMW.
I agree. I have a 2011, 328i with an n51 engine and it’s been a great car. About to hit 100k. The secret is finding a great mechanic that specializes in BMWs but doesn’t charge an arm and a leg. There is a great ecosystem of that here in Metro Atlanta.
Honest to god in all the above replies you're all talking about a car with less than or just over 100k miles like that is something unusual, I have a 2009 Lexus with 200k and have 0 repeat that ZERO issues. 100k is nothing.
Generally speaking if you are handy with cars, especially German luxury cars, BMW is a very good car because you do all the maintenance and small fixer uppers yourself. Or if you know a good mechanic that can do it and won't charge you an arm or a leg. One thing I did notice is that BMW no longer allows you to do multiple oil changes in a year, which for this car it definitely needs especially for higher mileage BMW vehicles. Honestly, to make it last longer, you just have to maintain it twice a year.
@@ECPP Dealer cost are brutal, and unfortunately service dept is where dealerships make all their money! Definitely like the first 3 years of service for free with my new M240i and of course the almighty warranty that helps you sleep at night 😂
The diagnostic and specialty tools are not available to the shade-tree mechanic, nor are they cost effective to own. Basic Maintenace perhaps, such as oil changes, filters but forget about any items to diagnose and repair the complex electronics.
@@AvengerAngel I beg the difference. I believe people who tune german cars can usually fix the electronics stuff. However, if the engine is broken then yeah you are definitely shit out of luck.
I used to work on motors for fun. I've never seen so much CHEAP plastic on and inside motors as I've seen in BMW models. In time that xheap plastic WILL get brittle and break, like the timing chain guide in the BMW mini motor, which is a MAJOR part of high importance.
Not all of them, M2, M3, M4 have very good resale values 30-35% depreciation after 5 years. Generally 3 series do very well. If you want to talk special models CS, CSL they’ll like increase in value or depreciate very little.
Ive noticed extended used BMW warranty's are getting so outta your pocket prices, hence this recession, i know a guy who thought " i'll cancel my warranty until ",,,,, until came literally the month after, "steering column error" just to diagnose cost hi, £450
We are BMW fans. Haven't seen this extreme depreciation on our vehicles. We usually drive for close to free because we leverage depreciation via several businesses that own our vehicles. We have owned Mercedes, Jaguars, Range Rovers and many American SUV's. We will be buying BMW's moving forward. Nothing drives like a BMW to me.
BMW, Jaguar, Cadillac, Mercedes, Rolls are are service nightmares! I had an XJ6. Every single time something went wrong it cost me $2,000. (This was after warranty) New brakes…2K, Exhaust 3K, Tires… 2.5K, electronic issues (and there were many) at least $800 every time. My friend bought a used 5series and it was in the shop almost monthly. To the people getting blown away by getting a used Beemer for cheap, you WILL need a boat load of money and even more patience to deal with the many headaches!
Depends on if you can do some of the work yourself. I had a 2008 X5 with the 4.8. Did the oil changes. Even replaced the sunroof cassette. Not too difficult, just time consuming. Parking brake control module wasn't too difficult either. Had the shop do 100K service with added all wheel drive service, $1500. Not too bad. Nothing major though. Awesome vehicle.
Why? because cars like the BMW will cost you an arm and a leg when you bring it to shop and everyone knew that. I know many car enthusiasts stop buying used luxury cars because of it.
Most of the reasons you state are applicable to any luxury vehicle. I encountered the airbag issue you stated after nearly 12 years of service. I replaced both for $290 and an hour of my time. Literally not much more difficult than doing a DIY oil change. Yes, if the compressor goes bad, it ups the cost a bit but not exponentially as stated.
Lexus is in a league of its own. Very nice cars and extremely reliable. There’s a reason the resale value for a used Lexus is high. I’ve seen regular looking 2008 models going for 20,000$ because the miles were lowish.
Regarding your comment about BMW always charging a diagnostic fee no matter what, I almost bought an M2 Competition and opted for a CPO Porsche 718 instead. I'm glad I did. The couple of times I've come in for service or repairs and I know what I need done, my local PSC checks or repairs exactly what I came for. And they do a free multipoint inspection anyway because they know that it reassures the customer and can bring in more business for them.
I have BMW 530i 2018 Luxury line. 6 years old, still running smoothly, no engine problem, no suspension problem, and the fuel consumption is better than the japan's one. The only problem I have is the interior ... many are made by rubbers and they easily melt in my country's weather. So, I must be careful to park my car, as the car cannot go too hot or it will simply be melting. But I don't have to worry as there are a bunch of aftermarket parts that I could buy in online shop, and I could just change them to my local repair shop instead in the official repair shop. As for the wheel, I use Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and it works well with my budget, and the performance is still the same. The only problem with the price depreciation in any european cars is the dealer or the manufacture does not care about it at all. Not like Toyota, as they create a program that could ensure the price does not depreciate faster, you could basically sell your car to your dealer for better value. But in any european car dealer, if you sell your car to their dealer, they want it cheaper than the market price.
Or...work on your on car. Oil change isn't hard, moniter fluids and avoid road hazards...only issue is hybrids....active hybrid 5 was really annoying to maintain
I do not know WHERE this man is finding ANY late model 10 year old or newer used cars "cheap" but I wish he'd share where because I just spent over 8 months in 2023 finding two used cars for my sons for college with 1 owner No accidents Clean title
From friends that have owned BMW's over the years, I can tell you that just your run of the mill maintenance is pretty much the equivalent of "major repairs" compared to other cars. People just get the estimates on things such as a brake job, and they run for the hills. The ridiculous prices of the parts compared to other cars are just part of it - the labor tends to come in pretty high as well. A VP at a company I worked for years ago bought a BMW 3 series - traded it in within 2 years when she got the estimate for the brake job she needed to have done. Within a week, she traded it in for a loaded Honda Accord. Not sure why she didn't go with an Acura (she could have certainly afforded the step up to Honda's luxury brand), but hey - maybe they jack up the prices of their parts just like the other brands they compete with, lol.
Its just manufacturing affected by regulations as it seems used car sales will not be affected by the future regulations. That means the used market will see cars maintaining their value or even appreciating!
Oil changes on my F30 couldn't be easier. Oil changes on this car at the dealership should be a crime. Brake pad replacements. you can do all 4 in under an hour! I would recommend anyone who drives a car to take basic maintenance classes or learn from a friend... it will save you a ton of money and you can do most upkeep service right from your own driveway.
Great Review, Guest, The Bottom Line Is, Gotta Pay The Cost, To Be The Boss. A Lotta Great Info. I'm Trying To Decde On 2024 X5 Hybrid, Or Wait For Upcoming, 2024 Lexus GX 550 Hybrid Next Year. Your Absolutely Right About New Laws & Regulations On Combustion Cars, Especially In California, Where I Live. That's Why I'm Going Hybrid.
I was going to look at a F10 535i tomorrow and decided to check YT for some info. After watching your video I have decided to not buy a BMW. Honestly, thank you for saving me all that headache!
@@ECPPHaha that's a good question, I honestly don't know yet. I might have to go with Toyota or Honda since they are the most reliable brands. I am hearing good things about Kia as well. What would you recommend? A car that is not boring but also reliable? I love Lexus but they are too expensive even used ones.
A video like this makes me want to go back to a Toyota hybrid. I had a Lexus NX, never any issues. With my BMWs there is always something and its expensive like hell. Gearbox on Z4, injectors on 325i cab, adblue system on 520d, wheels and suspension on 530e.. still love them though.
BMW is by far one of the best innovators. They keep the style conscious consumers wanting more with new flavors. This company keeps manufacturing cost down with small changes to their product life expectancy. BMW masterfully has made changes while on the same hand maintaining consumer perception of high quality. My hat goes off to their effective strategy, lots to learn from this company. Wonder what levels of improvement in innovation strategies can the overall market withstand?
Mercedes and BMW made durable, well-engineered cars in the 1970s and 1980s. Those cars weren't as profitable because they were long-lived and easy to maintain. Their new cars are now overpriced because their reputations rest on their earlier designs, and they are incredibly expensive to maintain. They don't last long, either. I want to own a car that doesn't have a computer chip in it.
I guess this is why so many people get rid of them at 40,000 miles. I went to a used luxury car lot and nearly all of them had 40 to 45,000 miles on them. The lights went out on my 7 series. I took it to the dealer and they said it would cost $5,000 just to replace the entire light assembly and it would cost more if they found anything else once they really got in. I sold it privately 2 weeks later!!
I own a small plastic manufacturing company (injection molding). The problem with plastic is that the molecular bonds tend weaken with thermal cycling. The molecular bonds in plastic, unlike metals, are not that strong to begin with. Thats why most plastic cracks in time. For example, I have an inexpensive car (Chevy Aveo) that I discovered has a plastic thermostat housing. I'm like, how stupid. Sure enough, I discovered that it had been replaced by the previous owner. If you have a turbo that's generating excessive heat under the hood, good night! I saw my mechanic working on a car with a plastic valve cover. I couldn't believe it. The internal stresses in certain areas of that part via high pressure injection molding makes that a foolish choice-weigh be damned. It will fail prematurely. Trust me.
Its nice to buy a used BMW when you know how to research and fix yourself. Parts cannons are far cheaper than taking to the shop, especially when even independent shops have lately been trying to get dealer prices for labor. Buy OE parts instead of "Genuine" (Bosch, Lemforder,ect VS BMW Genuine)
The reason for all the plastic is because the engine itself get hot obviously and the plastic parts allow those parts to bend and expand with out cracking as easily hence useing say aluminium, it’s still and can not move as easily.
Thats why when you buy a saloon BMW Audi or a Merc, you sell it before it starts to become a bottomless repair hole. In case of German market, a 1 year old car can already have 100k km on it. 5 year olds, often have 500k km.
Not always…I bought a 2 year old Mercedes and had zero issues for 7 years. I do all the minor maintenance myself. Will be replacing it before the mileage hits 150,000 because the maintenance will be too expensive then
@@fortuneseek3rz364 …facts, but I have no regrets buying the car. It’s been trouble-free for 7 years. It’s still a very nice car. If I can get 3 more years out it I’ll be happy. It’s been just as reliable as the Hondas and Toyotas I’ve owned TBH.
As an owner of series E-60, I can attest to what he is saying. But here is the difference I bought my car used with less than 80K kms on the clock, I have owned it for 11 years now and hardly put another 80k on it, so the odo shows about 160k kms. Fron day one I went with oem parts, never went inside the dealership and found mechanics that allow you to bring your own parts. Yes they charge me a bit of higher labour but I save more than enough on parts as pretty much all autorepair shops in my parr of the world put a premium of 3 to 4 times on all spares. I still save tons. The ownership experience had been good, because the car had been very reliable, other than normal wear and tear. The spare parts are still not as cheap as a Toyota or Honda or any other Japanese brand, but that isna given. I am honestly not interested in buying newer BMWs because their design does not appeal to me but I am actively looking for an E46 330Ci, E36 318is and an E30 325i. I am in negotiations for at least two of them, and before buying I have already meet the requirements. I have a spare parts pipeline, mechanics that can work on them plus I also do basic maintenance such as engine oil change, brake oil change etc my self saving me further. Having said that my situation is unique to me and might not apply to others. The rule of thumb is thr car might be cheap now but it's still very expensive to maintain.
Even for older cars, the parts can get insanely expensive. The best resource to save money on these cars is TIME. Working on them was not as bad as I thought it would be but it's very time consuming (a lot of plastic shrouds and torx bolts). I've been able to lower my annual costs by doing all maintenance items myself. For critical issues.... good luck man LOL. A good strategy is to diagnose the car yourself, grab the parts you need that are OE not OEM (to avoid dealer mark ups) then head to a trusted mechanic and specify the exact job you would like done. I can't emphasize enough the importance of building a relationship with a good shop for these cars.
My 2014 BMW 328 still drives great with amazing fuel mileage - 261,000 km - I replaced an oil sensor at 18,000 km some pulley belts at 181000 km and a waste gate actuator . I complained about the Nav screen being a bit dark when I first purchased the car - they said they replaced it ( not sure if they did ) it it looked fine afterwards - all in all I am heavily impressed by BMW reliability. I also have a 2021 Z4 with the their amazing 6 cylinder engine but that only has 8,000 km - that’s my fun car and I don’t drive it a lot. I love my 2014 328 - grey with red leather seats . My Z4 is the attention getter but I secretly love my tried and tested 3 series.
Priorities… first buy a decent nice house that matches with your BMW. Please don’t buy a BMW and live on rental or in a council state… it’s becoming a trend and it’s awful!
I own a 2011 bmw lease buyout. I dont have those problems besides your regular maintenance or fixing something every once in a while. now I have 123,000 miles on it.
Fast talker salesman, but right on point for the vast majority. The main reason BMWs lose value so fast is people who buy them dog them, and won't buy them used for both that and status concerns. Walmart has done oil service on my last six vehicles, synthetic $60, without issue. Never once pushed a belt or an air filter. They have protocols and follow them. Just helped my daughter buy a 2004 Bavarian X3, $3500. At 178k still a fine machine, and she won't drive it like a race car so should serve her well for years to come.
Good video. BMW is a race car, that requires the repair parts and service of German mechanic. A race car needs to be replaced frequently, don't complain.
Correct me if I’m wrong, the upcoming sales ban will have little to no effect on private gas-powered vehicle sales in Canada. So I believe you are incorrect when you say used prices will tank. By 2035, you will no longer have the option to buy a new-gas powered car from a dealership. Private sales won’t be affected.
I think ICE vehicles are going to be very popular…I think prices will go up and not down IMHO. EDIT: I’d also point out, no one cares what Canada thinks about going electric, if California pushes back their electrification goals…and they probably will, does anyone really think Canada will be dictating anything to auto manufacturers? Nope. If California pushes electrification back another ten years so will Canada.
You’re incorrect. In Canada the cars will be banned. Who will buy your car privately? No one will want them and the government will roll out incentives to force people to buy electric. Gas prices are so high you’d be stupid not to buy an electric car. It’s like CD players, or cassette players or a Motorola flip phone - you can only use them for a certain time until they are useless to everyone
@@Lifeisapartydresslikeit I’m sorry, I am correct. The used ICE market will be alive for years to come. They won’t ban ICE just the sale of new ones (or that’s the idea) imagine thinking everyone will switch to electric in 12 years, with rising costs of living, a lack of infrastructure and growing wealth disparity, do you really see a product that has less than 1% market penetration in the world achieving 100% market saturation in 12 years? Where your vehicle spending budget dictates how far you can go? Few people can afford the this electric future, even fewer will want to be stuck with used EV’a with worn batteries…a world where your financial status dictates how far you can drive or short range precludes once easy to accomplish drives into natural areas with no chargers. Gas is flexible, not going anywhere, despite your magical thinking and it will be desirable because the vast majority of people in our country simple can’t afford go along with Rich Liberal, ideologically driven market manipulation like has been accomplished by picking electric as the default green technology. I won’t even talk about the inevitable reveal that electric will prove to be worse for the environment and transportation like trucking, bussing and other commercial ventures simply can’t adopt EV commercial vehicles because charging even a small fleet requires vastly more energy to charge than the factory that makes them even uses. People are at the moment blind to reality and unaware of the soon to be escalating costs of this nightmare as more and more manufacturers need more and more of resources there is less and less of every day. Electricity costs are already getting high and grid capacities are no where near what is required to make this work…especially in places like California. Look, right now, electric cars are a fiery-tale and an interesting topic of discussion as no one is forced to buy them, but when it gets to that point, the people who vote will take issues with policies like this that do nothing to address global warming since the vast majority of all transportation pollution is from the commercial sector which has no way of using electric trucks for long haul. This is a misinformed pipedream right now and it’s held aloft by policies that require ME to open my pocket book. This isn’t how you make good policy. A necessity do life shouldn’t be paywalled and electric cars will do that. So if you really think cheap ICE vehicles won’t be sucked up ultra fast from the market and reused again and again to help the majority of the population avoid having to pay the big bucks to get only similar range performance EV’s compared to their existing cars….then maybe you need to spend 10min thinking this through. The government can’t make anyone buy anything, nor take away what is already made. Voters, should they ever wake up may realize this rich liberal pipedream is in fact not going to help them and their old car is not, in fact, going to end the planet. Wait and see what happens. With how things are getting more expensive, you can bet real money that this will not go smoothly especially when the US is on the precipice of fiscal disaster.
@@LifeisapartydresslikeitYou said in Canada gas cars will be banned. Where’s your source for the timeline? You don’t actually believe the infrastructure will be in place by 2035 to ban all gas cars do you?? If so you are very naive and need to do a little reading on what that would entail. So, YOU are incorrect.
I have a 330 17 model and is doing well for me! It's been a couple of years now and no problems. I stay up on my maintenance and actually drive my car. Don't let your BMW sit. If you're looking to get a BMW, do your research! Don't get a high mileage, check the maintenance history and look out for new and swapped parts. This might help you reconsider if anything. Bring a trusted mechanic too 🙏🏾
It’s loaded with technology, has high performance capabilities and is not linked to a larger car company which means parts are not mass produced. Lastly the sales numbers indicate that people love their BMWs. No one who can afford to buy a BMW is driving a Lexus. No one under age 60.
@@DerKirchenhocker Meaning the people who can afford not to care about a car they will trade in every 3 years. BMW reliability is only an issue for poor people who have to keep a car for a long period.
Ive owned 3 BMW's over the years and only had one model that gave me issues. Take care of your car and it will last. I also have a 2016 Jaguar XF 3.0 Supercharged. People say Jaguars are unreliable. Honestly Jaguars I've owned 2 of them are more reliable than my BMW and I've had no issues out of mu Jaguar vs my 2020 Lexus GS350 but i digress.
Bought my 1st BMW in 2015. it was a 2013 x5. Got for a great price. Do my own maintenance(all fluid, batteries, brakes and tires). 2024 and the x5 never had a problem. I bought another BMW...a 2020 430i. Awesome price. I love how the maintenance is what people fear so much that cause them to lose their value. Make them so affordable. lol
This video is misleading because it assumes people take thei cars to the dealership. We own 6 BMWs and never taken to dealership for service. I do my own maintenance and use an old fashioned independent garage for other service. You save a lot of money by doing you own services including brakes
I'm mechanic in Russia. BMW is a headache! 200 usd per hour for labour - it's worth it! Usually if clients knows what we should change - they are wrong! Exceptions will approve the rule. That's why we are charging for diagnostics anyway. And yes - the diagnostic for bmw is very sophisticated.
I’ve gad two BMWs & I now have a GR Supra. I can tell you he’s right on what he’s saying. BMW does some of the silliest things with their cars & yes they try to get you to dump their older models. They use plastic in the most foolish places. Just changing the battery on the car is difficult for no reason. Go Japanese. Buy Lexus.
Ehh I'm sure he's referring to non m series forb the most part. As M series will always hold value since the whole flex with owning one is only you paid a lot for it.
U would agree to some degre, especially if you service it at official service. I own a few bmw, usually 530d, and my usual service costs is 220 eur (i am from EU), oil, oil filter, air filter, work (1h). All done at a ex official bmw mechanic, gone private. I do oil and filter change every 15000 km, and newer had any problems, i usually run them from 100,000 up to 250,000 kilometers, newer had any issues with the straight 6 diesel. I do always insure them fully, so I don't care about the cost of damages and trim. Best of luck to all of you, bmw fans.
I'd say about 10 years or 100k KM which ever comes first. BMW is notorious for engine/turbo fluid leaks after 10 years or 120k KM. Unless the driver drives it like a race car then 6-7 years can be achieved.
I bought a new 2012 335IS (N54) with only 15 miles on the odometer. Paid $67k for it back in 2012. Long story short, last week ignition coils quit working properly, oil leak at oil filter housing, cooling expansion tank started to leak, and cracked charge pipe at 30k miles. The car only has 35k miles and I still have it. No, I would never buy another BMW ever again!
imagine some random dude just roasting your car in a parking lot and filming it lmao.
Thanks
@@ECPP lmao
He certainly isn't making any friends at the BMW dealer or any German car dealerships for that matter!😄
@@germanengineering204 no offense to him. Like i would be pissed if some dude was filming my var and roasting it and putting it on youtube.
It happened to me and let's say thanks to my 5 finger discount tool I have a brand new Lambo now... Lol
Usually it's not the cost of the parts that is prohibitive, it's the cost of labor. When the warranty runs out, find a reputable independent BWM repair shop (I found one that was started by former service technicians from a local BMW dealership, so they're all certified, etc.). They were much less expensive on the labor + they don't nickle-and-dime on every little thing.
Yup this!
Every single thing .
What i noticed is your paying double the labor costs .
It seems the dealer extorting the costumer for their share .!!
If the labor cost is $100 the total labor costs will be $200.
Yep. Was lucky to find one near my house. Told me everything that is in need of replacement in my 100,000 miles X3 But was honest about if they needed replacement asap or could wait a bit. Dealer woulda ripped me on the price.
Major brands make money on service mostly, not on sales. From what I heard tho
I did the same with my mini cooper
I have owned BMWs for 41 years now. I really hate to see them use so much plastic. Great video Mark !
Thank you very much. Yes that plastic is a mess
There are plenty of places where it doesn't detract from value but others where it does not belong. For me it's anything with fluids needs steel and rubber, not plastic. Valvecovers are now common and stump me because I don't know yet on them.
BMWs are supposed to be a premium brand. There is no reason for them to use plastic for certain car parts
I prefer mercedes n lexus than bmw...
Plastic reduces weight and improves performance and MPG. That's why they use plastic where it makes sense to do so.
To be fair… this video sums up any luxury vehicle brand. If a car costs 100k to buy new, then its a 100k car that needs 100k type of servicing. Just because you paid 10k, doesn’t make it a 10k car. It’s still a 100k car.
Yea but some are just overpriced and depreciated quickly
That's actually a pretty intelligent comment.
Bentley cars are prob the biggest surprised falls because the maintenance cost makes German cars pale in comparison
@@fernandocard9980 what?? Bentley is German 🤣 made by VW
@@Tombradyjockstrap England
I used to work at a used car dealership in Los Angeles. Used BMWs and Mercedez were usually purchased by people with bad credit. Many of them were repoed because whoever bought it could keep up with car payments when the expensive repair bill came up. We had a 2003 (I think) 7 Series BMW that we sold for about 5k and the dealer made almost 18k profit on it because it got repoed so many times and sold again.
LOL, I see a lot of people in the hood driving used luxury cars.
@@ML_1515 The ones that did not look under the hood?
@@ML_1515 lol. thats how it is.
I LIVE IN THE HOOD. My street is solid Mercedes, BMW, Lexus. Not a single Toyota, Ford, Nissan or HOnda. I'm at a loss as to how they afford these cars.
@@Hemond1 LOL, they probably get repo’d tho.
I have a 2018 X3 M40i, bought at 3 yrs old (lease turn in). After my warranty ran out, I was so lucky to find a garage near me that works on German cars. They're honest and reasonable - my oil change cost $135. So when I decide to get another car I'm planning to get another BMW. This is my 2nd one and I love it.
Nice
Oil changes should be $40 max. You think $135 is a good thing???!
@@bamwa BMWs use synthetic oil, at a shop like Valvoline or Jiffy Lube they charge a premium and it's around $90 to $110, but if you do it yourself it's $40 like you said.
@@bamwaI do my own oil changes on a Jeep grand Cherokee w/ a hemi it’s almost $100. $40 my ass
@@bamwa$40??? That was in 2003 😂😂😂 even a Corolla cost approx $60 conventional oil
My Toyota Camry 1998 has 296K miles and still running smoothly. Oil change is $40
But it’s a Toyota it’s…. Not good
@@jackz4149?
My dad still has his 1984 Corolla and works just fine. No major work done for a 400K mile car. Every 3K miles, replace oil and use premium gas.. My mechanic is Eddie Murphy;s mechanic and he drives a beat up 1982 Corolla. You know a great mechanic when they drive beaters around.
Over here comparing a old Toyota to a new BMW 🙄
Honestly Toyota with it's quality is the queen of cars. I did have question does your Toyota require a lot of maintenance? I was thinking about buying a luxury car let's seriously how can you beat the quality of Toyota
My wife got a used X2 and we were at the dealership waiting for them to detail it, etc. So we were sitting in the service waiting area and another customer was sitting within earshot. His service rep came over with a clipboard talking about an oil change costing like $500 U.S. but since it was an older model it qualified for a legacy discount that cut the price in half. The customer was so excited to pay $250+ for an oil change.
I went home and found the procedure and got the low profile oil filter wrench, new filter element and some Castrol European spec 5W-30 and I'm all in for under $50.
Edit: We also got the extended service contract for repairs.
My last BMW was great during the warranty period, then the cash drain began. By the time I had 150,000 miles on it I had already spent nearly 40% of the acquisition cost in repairs. I am sure it would have continued to skyrocket. I sold it with about 151,000 miles on it. No one turned a wench on it but BMW, all repairs documented, garage kept and I got back 5% of what I had paid for it new, yep, 95% depreciation. That was my last BMW, never again.
Cheers
@@ECPP 😄😄😄
Genius
Why did u only go to dealer ?
@@Highlander1432 Well Genius, because that's what I wanted to do and have the money to do it. Anymore stupid questions?
You have to pick the right BMW and know and use the independent shops that build their business around BMWs business. If you're simply going to drive and go to dealer for everything well...thanks.
I have a 2016 Mercedes-Benz C 300. Thank God I have some knowledge of how to fix my own things. I do my own oil changes filters, air filters, spark plugs changed them out once my car reached a 50.000 mile mark. I also always check my fluids and make sure everything’s up to tiptop. I also change my oil every 3 to 4 months.
Great to hear!
My 750i has had many repairs “preventative maintenance “ but I will admit. It’s never let me down. Once my extended warranty gets depleted I will be replacing it with a used Lexus GS or maybe a used 2022 760i. They drive fantastic honestly
used to be a huge lexus fan. but now the latest lexus inside is all plastic-ish too and the lcd screen is horrible to use and looks ugly. lexus went downhill big time from the good old days where everything was leather and nice inside
3 series is so much cheaper to run and still comfortable. Dont know why people get the 7 series
@@WayToManyAssassins7 series drive like you’re on cloud. That’s why or a huge sofa with outstanding drive control. Is something you have to experience it.
Dont go for a Lexus. Its so boring. There is a new 5 series out. Should be on sale in like a month
@@WayToManyAssassinsare you listening to yourself? Well I chose GLS580 not GLC300 because I don’t wanna be seen in a cheap car…
Good video. You point out several of the BMW issues. Same could be said for Mercedes. Some of the German cars are loaded with 70+ computers. We all know how long computers last and they are expensive to replace.
Those are not computers but a Module. The cars run on a Local area network called CAN. Those modules are network nodes assigned to carry out your commands. The modules are plentiful and easily replaceable. I swapped many before. Euro spec ones have many features added that the US ones don't have. Like automatic windows UP when you leave the car. The modules are usually 50 dollars.
They are not computers…
We’ve have had several bmws (and other European brands) since I was a kid and they always seem to have random electrical gremlins.
German engineering is futuristic tech which comes with unforeseeable issues that’s why they’re so saught after
Better go to a real car mechanic then go to service you will have less issues/errors.
Anything found at service that has an issue or error will cost you a lot + service/taxes.
A lot of people lease these cars with crazy monthly payments thinking they can afford it but reality hits when they don’t even have money to put gas in it. I know a few people like that. Some leased brand new with the monthly payment and insurance taking up half their salary. Others bought used bmw’s with their life savings and don’t even put full coverage insurance on it cause “save a few bucks,nothing will happen” mentality. Flood happens or they get hit by a non insured driver or the car keeps breaking but they can’t keep up cause they don’t have any savings…. A lot of people fake it till they make it but most don’t make it and end up losing a lot of everything over a car.
Totally right on that
I worked at a BMW dealer and I fully support this statement it’s so true the amount of people that walk into the dealership but they can’t keep up with payments nor basic maintenance and they always complaining too like bruh if you can’t afford the car don’t finance or lease or rather buy a bmw you can’t keep up with in all aspects ,people always want to look rich or buy the car for the logo and title , it’s really sad & goes to show how society gots it all fucked up people would rather buy a high end luxury brand car go into debt so they can say they oh “I drive a bmw “ than rather taking a step back humbling themselves and saying maybe I should finance or lease something that makes the most sense for the type of income I am making. I’ve had people complain about oh I’ve spent this amount of money you guys should be taking care of me etc like bro if your complaining and bitching so much about payments and everything that comes with owning the car then maybe you shouldn’t own one at all. & some acted so surprised too when they were hit with the bill when their cars were ready to be picked up after being serviced like dawg be ready for anything when we living in this market where prices are sky high .😂
"Own". Let's be real. They don't own shit.
If you're paying $400-$500 for an oil change on your BMW you deserve to pay $400-$500 for an oil change on your BMW LOL
That's steep! Canada prices are expensive....Mine where $120USD....Before I started changing my own...Thank God for FCP Euro!
@@charlesl86
I'm going to assume he's exaggerating but walking around any BMW dealership I wouldn't be surprised if they tried billing that for an oil change. Afterall, these are cars with no oil dipstick now.
Don’t know what this is….I was told around $180 at my dealer in Ottawa for an oil change on my X3.
Yeah... you're paying for that luxury showroom.
Facts lol
My 2022 M4 already at 22,000 km had injector problems and the part was $1500 without labour!! Luckily it was covered under warranty - I love BMWs and I’m on my 8th one. I love to feel pain it seems!! These cars aren’t great but the performance is like no other!!!
well look at fighter jets! Unrivaled but very expensive to maintain!
BMWs is like a love and hate relationship. Owned a 21 Supra for six months and already had a few issues popped up. My previous M cars all left me stranded due to bad ignition coils but damn they're fun to drive.
Exactly, great ride and performance, when they aren't in the shop.
Bmw are better than any car Africans ever made
@@ahzcainbree9080 🤣😂
I've owned my 2008 6 Series coupe for 13 years. It's been fairly reliable, fun to drive and special in the looks department. I'll hold on to it till the end of this decade as I'm afraid to switch to a newer BMW 😊.
is it NA or boosted?
@@jamesmedina2062 It's NA (N53).
@@zsb707 nice!! another reason to keep whatcha got!👍👍
you rightly should be
I owned a 3 serious and it was good. My next car will also be a bimmer but id try to go for a NA which is hard to find nowadays
167,000 miles on my 2012 335i. Still kickin. Great car. Only problems so far were the oil filter housing gasket, the intake manifold gasket, water pump and coolant overfill tank. I did all of them myself. Still has original brakes although they need to be replaced. Shifts smooth, still has that low end torque power. I can't see myself driving anything else. Next car is a bimmer, no doubt about it.
Plenty of BMW, AUDI, BENZ go over 100k miles, this is a fear mongering and people who cannot afford Euro cars love these kinds of videos
You really shouldn't base your next BMW purchse based on your current BMW.
@@chrislim7976 I already did long ago, twice. This will be my third time. Also, I'm an electro/mechanical technician. I know what to look for.
@@jeffjeff8562
It's just a matter of time. 😅🍺
@@chrislim7976 Wait, are you telling me my car will break down in a matter of time?
I have a 2005 Honda Accord with 250,000 miles (400,000 km) on it. Until last month I have never done anything other than scheduled maintenance on it. Last month, after 18 years, I had to replace the A/C condenser. I'm not complaining!
From what I hear and read, German cars for all their alleged performance and technology seem to be money pits. I think I can afford them but who want to be visiting the repair shop on a regular basis? I'm probably going to stick with Honda or Toyota forever.
SMART MAN! 👍🏿👏🏿
Wise man 🙌. At the end nobody gives a s@$@$ what you drive
@@DMfanforever2009 Damn! Why so serious! 😬
@@literarypharaoh1117 Could be an executive from BMW or Mercedes! 😂
@@DMfanforever2009 And nobody gives a sh*t what you think! 🤣
I had a seven series, the best thing I did with it was to sell it. 😊
bought a cheap bmw when I was a student. not much choice in my price range, and I needed a car urgently. it almost bankrupted me 😂
I have a 12 year old Acura with over 100k miles and I have literally never done anything to it that wasn't basic maintenance or a consumable. I go to a good independent mechanic and my 60k mile service was under $300. Everyone I know that has had European cars (BMW X5, Golf R, VW GTI) all have horror stories.
You need a great INDY or even DIY in order to keep things affordable and reasonable
Since when is $55,000 cheap?
@@Gregory-Masovutch how would you know how much someone spent
I've had European cars (chronologically: VW, Audi, Mercedes, 2 BMWs & Jaguar) and fortunately no horror stories.
@@zsb707 I have had VW and Audi and no horror stories either, people like this always say this because they cannot afford Euro cars.
Yes Sr. Your absolutely right when you tell everyone about the downfalls to BMW or any other turbo charged cars. The best made BMWS are natural aspirated engines, less heat, a lot less problems. All race cars who will run turboswill change parts every time they need to, with the budget to do so. Because when it comes to turbos, it's about heat. It's the nature of the automotive beast no other way around it. Great channel with important information for all.
I owned a coupl eof Nissan performance cars. None of them burned through oil. Zero. NOw what about your BMW...
BMW = BREAK MY WALLET .. 😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha
@@ECPP Bavarian Manure Wagon
Broken motor world BMW
Exactly
BM TROUBLE YOU
I have also noticed that some just look at the price tag of a bmw, Mercedes etc and think “I can buy it”, but fails to count in the high maintenance costs that u have to pay in order to keep them work and be reliable. So when they realize it, they often cheap out and buy 3th party parts and then when they fail they blame the car, and then they sell it, and the next buyer will buy it and the loop continues.
If u take care of the car as scheduled and keep up with the maintenance they wont break down as much.
i agree... i had a similar experience with Mercedes Benz E320 1999... it was a great car... but maintaining it was very expensive. now i have a Camry and i love it
It sure feels great driving a reliable and well made vehicle
“Camry” LMAOOOOO
I have a 2000 E320 4Matic. They aren't terrible if you can do your own work but I don't recommend anything off warranty to those who can't wrench.
W210 right? Usually nothing will go wrong with them as they are built like tanks. And usually replacement parts are very reasonable and available widely everywhere. Think you have got a lemon
I inherited my father's 2015 BMW 328i in 2021. I just rebuilt the motor on it, costing me $4700. If I had gone to a dealer it would have cost me a lot more to fix.
Sounds like a good win indeed
This is the same in the UK, this is why you never take it to the main dealer. Instead take it to independent specialists.
Try to find a good independent shop. Here in my city there are only a couple and they trace the dealers pricing regime we all get gouged
Love my bmw, 145,000 miles and still driving great, although all the gaskets in the engine start to go bad around 80,000 miles. If your not willing to do the mechanic work on your own don't get a bmw. I did all the gaskets, water pump, and thermostat on my own so I was able to save alot on mechanics. Bad ass cars though!
Same I’m a 41 year old female and I’ve had the x6 3 times because I know how to repair them myself they usually always have the same issues after certain mileage but when you own them you can go into the dealership and get coupons for parts and I never payed over 100 for oil change at the dealership if I didn’t do it myself
I have to say, thank you for contributing to the car industry with your unfiltered opinions ! I always thoughts that German vehicles were a maintainance night mare but ended up getting a B48 and it’s on another level. Get oil change done every 5k and others it’s so much fun !!
How much was the oil change ?
It’s all relevant , when I bought my 2016 Cayenne, there was water in one headlight , I got $4000 discount because that’s how much Porsche dealer was going to charge me to fix it , I brought the car home , took out the headlight , dried the moisture with blow dryer , installed new ballast and resealed it with silicone , and voila , works like a charm , cost , $105 … $100 for new OEM ballast (eBay) and $5 tube of silicone … I also replaced camshaft position sensors and solenoids on my S550 , and installed sacrificial harnesses to stop oil from creeping out to ECU and destroying everything , one afternoon work and $500 to prevent $15.000 damage .. that job would cost me around $2000 if I had it done at the shop … so with those cars there is a lot you can DIY , but things you can’t , and you have to take it to the shop , you better hold on to your britches, and have some money saved on the side lol …. ps I’ll have to replace turbos on my Benz eventually, they’re slowly leaking oil … don’t want to talk about that right now lol
Great video, yet disagree with combustion autos no longer "being allowed." The electric mandates I have reviewed specifically reference new car sales. Not even CA is banning combustion autos...new ones simply cannot be sold in CA after a certain date.
Combustion engines ain’t going anywhere. Too much money to be made in both (gas and electric) industries. Plus the electric technology is years away from being efficient enough to keep people rolling down the road. Hybrid should have been the way for manufacturers til they perfect full electric tech.
I owned a BMW 7 series and it was a nightmare. At 40,000 miles the problems started. Everything was breaking. I spent thousands on repairs. My car was in the shop every 3 weeks. Don't buy a BMW unless you get it brand new on a Lease.. That way you can get rid of it before the problems start. Most smart people with money only lease German cars and trade them in after a year. So, yeah those cars are only reliable for the first owner. The people that buy them with miles on them are the ones buying the money pits with no warranties.
The people I know who buy them are wealthy and keep them only a year or two. My experience is that once you start having electrical issues it’s a never ending nightmare. I wouldn’t want one more than two years old. Think how horrible on the environment it is to make a car that essentially is only reliable /economical for two years and then becomes useless. The manufacturer doesn’t focus on long term reliability they focus on initial sales only. Also had a VW Jetta that was one problem after the other till I finally gave it away. I’m sticking with Japanese.
Slightly off topic but I have a friend who bought an AMG SL 550 convertible with 70k miles for $15k. It is a great Supercharged V8 car but it had the hydraulic issues common to German cars with active suspension, not to mention the hydraulics for the convertible roof. He is a very knowledgeable Mercedes guy and had sources for the hydraulic cylinders that were rebuilt with a better grade of seal. This illustrates what many people here are saying. My friend's car sold new for almost $130,000 and he now owns a final example for less than $20,000 and some hard work. This path is clearly not for everybody.
I think that the trick is to go older - cars from the 2000’s especially with the n52 engine are reliable, fun to drive with great sound, amazing handling and most of all, they are authentic in-line 6 road cars
They are really from a simpler time
Bought a 2008 328xi wagon, love it. Coming up on 95k miles (bought it at 82k) and the maintenance required but bring it to independent BMW garage. Would never bring it to a dealership for service. Love the n52.
@@mariannagreenlee Agree, I have a 2009 128i convertible with the n52 and Judy over 105k. Been pretty reliable and always fun to drive. Glad you are enjoying your “older” BMW.
I agree. I have a 2011, 328i with an n51 engine and it’s been a great car. About to hit 100k. The secret is finding a great mechanic that specializes in BMWs but doesn’t charge an arm and a leg. There is a great ecosystem of that here in Metro Atlanta.
Honest to god in all the above replies you're all talking about a car with less than or just over 100k miles like that is something unusual, I have a 2009 Lexus with 200k and have 0 repeat that ZERO issues. 100k is nothing.
Generally speaking if you are handy with cars, especially German luxury cars, BMW is a very good car because you do all the maintenance and small fixer uppers yourself. Or if you know a good mechanic that can do it and won't charge you an arm or a leg. One thing I did notice is that BMW no longer allows you to do multiple oil changes in a year, which for this car it definitely needs especially for higher mileage BMW vehicles. Honestly, to make it last longer, you just have to maintain it twice a year.
DIYer s can enjoy these fun driving cars, but paying a dealer can hurt the wallet
@@ECPP Dealer cost are brutal, and unfortunately service dept is where dealerships make all their money! Definitely like the first 3 years of service for free with my new M240i and of course the almighty warranty that helps you sleep at night 😂
The diagnostic and specialty tools are not available to the shade-tree mechanic, nor are they cost effective to own. Basic Maintenace perhaps, such as oil changes, filters but forget about any items to diagnose and repair the complex electronics.
@@AvengerAngel I beg the difference. I believe people who tune german cars can usually fix the electronics stuff. However, if the engine is broken then yeah you are definitely shit out of luck.
@@HEEHEEBOII Anyone who can fix German cars is going to be very busy, and would probably drive a Toyota.
Even in summertime, all of this dude's episodes are in the winter lol
Haha, I know, right? I gotta move
80’s-90’s BMW’s we’re “ The ultimate driving machine!” Today BMW stands for “ Bring My Wallet!” 🤪😂😆😢😢😢
I think it's "break my wallet"
Bring More Wrenches 🔧
Or Buy More Warranty
I love my 528i but it can get costly for repairs.
I used to work on motors for fun. I've never seen so much CHEAP plastic on and inside motors as I've seen in BMW models. In time that xheap plastic WILL get brittle and break, like the timing chain guide in the BMW mini motor, which is a MAJOR part of high importance.
Not all of them, M2, M3, M4 have very good resale values 30-35% depreciation after 5 years. Generally 3 series do very well. If you want to talk special models CS, CSL they’ll like increase in value or depreciate very little.
That’s fair
Bought a 5 year old bmw 330 shadow and paid 12.5 gbp 82k like new inside
Any problems ? @@rickp2293
Ive noticed extended used BMW warranty's are getting so outta your pocket prices, hence this recession, i know a guy who thought " i'll cancel my warranty until ",,,,, until came literally the month after, "steering column error" just to diagnose cost hi, £450
Prices on everything is way too high these days
We are BMW fans. Haven't seen this extreme depreciation on our vehicles. We usually drive for close to free because we leverage depreciation via several businesses that own our vehicles. We have owned Mercedes, Jaguars, Range Rovers and many American SUV's. We will be buying BMW's moving forward. Nothing drives like a BMW to me.
They are great drivers indeed especially the M variants
BMW, Jaguar, Cadillac, Mercedes, Rolls are are service nightmares! I had an XJ6. Every single time something went wrong it cost me $2,000. (This was after warranty) New brakes…2K, Exhaust 3K, Tires… 2.5K, electronic issues (and there were many) at least $800 every time. My friend bought a used 5series and it was in the shop almost monthly. To the people getting blown away by getting a used Beemer for cheap, you WILL need a boat load of money and even more patience to deal with the many headaches!
100 percent
I gotta say, your thumbnails are very good, gets me every time, but your content is always entertaining! Look forward to your videos 👍
Depends on if you can do some of the work yourself. I had a 2008 X5 with the 4.8. Did the oil changes. Even replaced the sunroof cassette. Not too difficult, just time consuming. Parking brake control module wasn't too difficult either. Had the shop do 100K service with added all wheel drive service, $1500. Not too bad. Nothing major though. Awesome vehicle.
The right thing to do is buy used cars for European ones, new for Japanese ones..
Nice
Why? because cars like the BMW will cost you an arm and a leg when you bring it to shop and everyone knew that. I know many car enthusiasts stop buying used luxury cars because of it.
Most of the reasons you state are applicable to any luxury vehicle. I encountered the airbag issue you stated after nearly 12 years of service. I replaced both for $290 and an hour of my time. Literally not much more difficult than doing a DIY oil change. Yes, if the compressor goes bad, it ups the cost a bit but not exponentially as stated.
Exactly and i also shared the DIY ion the channel, but many people just go to dealer and get hosed on that relatively simple repair.
that's going to cost you@@ECPP
Lexus is in a league of its own. Very nice cars and extremely reliable. There’s a reason the resale value for a used Lexus is high. I’ve seen regular looking 2008 models going for 20,000$ because the miles were lowish.
Regarding your comment about BMW always charging a diagnostic fee no matter what, I almost bought an M2 Competition and opted for a CPO Porsche 718 instead. I'm glad I did. The couple of times I've come in for service or repairs and I know what I need done, my local PSC checks or repairs exactly what I came for. And they do a free multipoint inspection anyway because they know that it reassures the customer and can bring in more business for them.
In Europe used BMW ain't cheap. Most people in Europe drive their cars for more than 10 years.
How many miles are typically run in a year over there in Europe?
Probably because they use public transportation most of the time LOL
@@ECPP the average is less than 10000 a year. It's only a few who exceed that .
Cheap in germany...a lot cheaper than in my country... my frirnd college in germany use bmw used car ...🤣🤣🤣
I have BMW 530i 2018 Luxury line. 6 years old, still running smoothly, no engine problem, no suspension problem, and the fuel consumption is better than the japan's one. The only problem I have is the interior ... many are made by rubbers and they easily melt in my country's weather. So, I must be careful to park my car, as the car cannot go too hot or it will simply be melting. But I don't have to worry as there are a bunch of aftermarket parts that I could buy in online shop, and I could just change them to my local repair shop instead in the official repair shop.
As for the wheel, I use Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and it works well with my budget, and the performance is still the same.
The only problem with the price depreciation in any european cars is the dealer or the manufacture does not care about it at all. Not like Toyota, as they create a program that could ensure the price does not depreciate faster, you could basically sell your car to your dealer for better value. But in any european car dealer, if you sell your car to their dealer, they want it cheaper than the market price.
Some really interesting points, thanks for sharing
Or...work on your on car. Oil change isn't hard, moniter fluids and avoid road hazards...only issue is hybrids....active hybrid 5 was really annoying to maintain
If you can DIY, the. It can be reasonable. Still need a good parts supply.
I do not know WHERE this man is finding ANY late model 10 year old or newer used cars "cheap" but I wish he'd share where because I just spent over 8 months in 2023 finding two used cars for my sons for college with
1 owner
No accidents
Clean title
They are out there but it depends how flexible one is as well
From friends that have owned BMW's over the years, I can tell you that just your run of the mill maintenance is pretty much the equivalent of "major repairs" compared to other cars. People just get the estimates on things such as a brake job, and they run for the hills. The ridiculous prices of the parts compared to other cars are just part of it - the labor tends to come in pretty high as well. A VP at a company I worked for years ago bought a BMW 3 series - traded it in within 2 years when she got the estimate for the brake job she needed to have done. Within a week, she traded it in for a loaded Honda Accord. Not sure why she didn't go with an Acura (she could have certainly afforded the step up to Honda's luxury brand), but hey - maybe they jack up the prices of their parts just like the other brands they compete with, lol.
Wtf kind of company was that ?
Lol
Agreed. A relative lost it because he had to replace brake pads early on his Honda SUV.
With BMW'S and VWs in my garage I had to hold in the laughs.
HONDA parts are more common snd mire easily available even they are shared with the sister Acura brand with the pay more brands scale up.
@@loktom4068
Easier to work on too
Not just that. Aftermarket non OEM stuff for german cars is basically garbage compared Japanese aftermarket.
Its just manufacturing affected by regulations as it seems used car sales will not be affected by the future regulations. That means the used market will see cars maintaining their value or even appreciating!
I’ve been looking at the 5 series, especially the last model 2016 or the new redesign 2017 models. They have lost well over 50% value.
Yeah they are great cars. Very reliable and drive amazingly. Never had any problems
Great minds think alike ‼️💯
Oil changes on my F30 couldn't be easier. Oil changes on this car at the dealership should be a crime. Brake pad replacements. you can do all 4 in under an hour! I would recommend anyone who drives a car to take basic maintenance classes or learn from a friend... it will save you a ton of money and you can do most upkeep service right from your own driveway.
Great Review, Guest, The Bottom Line Is, Gotta Pay The Cost, To Be The Boss. A Lotta Great Info. I'm Trying To Decde On 2024 X5 Hybrid, Or Wait For Upcoming, 2024 Lexus GX 550 Hybrid Next Year. Your Absolutely Right About New Laws & Regulations On Combustion Cars, Especially In California, Where I Live. That's Why I'm Going Hybrid.
Glad it was helpful!
I was going to look at a F10 535i tomorrow and decided to check YT for some info. After watching your video I have decided to not buy a BMW. Honestly, thank you for saving me all that headache!
You are very welcome and it’s certainly not for everyone. Any ideas what’s next?
@@ECPPHaha that's a good question, I honestly don't know yet. I might have to go with Toyota or Honda since they are the most reliable brands. I am hearing good things about Kia as well. What would you recommend? A car that is not boring but also reliable? I love Lexus but they are too expensive even used ones.
A video like this makes me want to go back to a Toyota hybrid. I had a Lexus NX, never any issues. With my BMWs there is always something and its expensive like hell. Gearbox on Z4, injectors on 325i cab, adblue system on 520d, wheels and suspension on 530e.. still love them though.
BMW is by far one of the best innovators. They keep the style conscious consumers wanting more with new flavors. This company keeps manufacturing cost down with small changes to their product life expectancy. BMW masterfully has made changes while on the same hand maintaining consumer perception of high quality. My hat goes off to their effective strategy, lots to learn from this company. Wonder what levels of improvement in innovation strategies can the overall market withstand?
After warranty is over you don’t have to take it to dealer for oil change buy filter and oil and have Valvoline change it for you for $50
Mercedes and BMW made durable, well-engineered cars in the 1970s and 1980s. Those cars weren't as profitable because they were long-lived and easy to maintain. Their new cars are now overpriced because their reputations rest on their earlier designs, and they are incredibly expensive to maintain. They don't last long, either. I want to own a car that doesn't have a computer chip in it.
You are right Peter, these cars definitely are not built like they used to be. Sadly the whole industry is pretty much doing that.
I guess this is why so many people get rid of them at 40,000 miles. I went to a used luxury car lot and nearly all of them had 40 to 45,000 miles on them. The lights went out on my 7 series. I took it to the dealer and they said it would cost $5,000 just to replace the entire light assembly and it would cost more if they found anything else once they really got in. I sold it privately 2 weeks later!!
What’s your favorite luxury car?
As long as they are using Plastic and Turbos it is a No Go resale without Warranty to 100k Miles
Exactly
I own a small plastic manufacturing company (injection molding). The problem with plastic is that the molecular bonds tend weaken with thermal cycling. The molecular bonds in plastic, unlike metals, are not that strong to begin with. Thats why most plastic cracks in time.
For example, I have an inexpensive car (Chevy Aveo) that I discovered has a plastic thermostat housing. I'm like, how stupid. Sure enough, I discovered that it had been replaced by the previous owner. If you have a turbo that's generating excessive heat under the hood, good night!
I saw my mechanic working on a car with a plastic valve cover. I couldn't believe it. The internal stresses in certain areas of that part via high pressure injection molding makes that a foolish choice-weigh be damned. It will fail prematurely. Trust me.
I have 2011 bmw 328i , LOVE IT , my son maintains it himself..
Total garbage. Non stop repairs on mine and Im a mechanics friend. He said to trash it. Worst cars ever.
Spectacular review Mark enjoy your channel and car knowledge ✌️🤍❤️🤍 🇨🇦
Thanks 👍
Its nice to buy a used BMW when you know how to research and fix yourself. Parts cannons are far cheaper than taking to the shop, especially when even independent shops have lately been trying to get dealer prices for labor. Buy OE parts instead of "Genuine" (Bosch, Lemforder,ect VS BMW Genuine)
I'll probably b dead b4 I'll buy and EV or a hybrid 😂
The reason for all the plastic is because the engine itself get hot obviously and the plastic parts allow those parts to bend and expand with out cracking as easily hence useing say aluminium, it’s still and can not move as easily.
Cheers
Thanks for reminding me to definitely get an
extended FACTORY warranty on my next BMW purchase!!
You bet
Thats why when you buy a saloon BMW Audi or a Merc, you sell it before it starts to become a bottomless repair hole. In case of German market, a 1 year old car can already have 100k km on it. 5 year olds, often have 500k km.
Nice
I'm still curious too see how reliable a new bmw is gonna be in 5-6 years, these cars German cars are better leased
Well….
Not always…I bought a 2 year old Mercedes and had zero issues for 7 years. I do all the minor maintenance myself. Will be replacing it before the mileage hits 150,000 because the maintenance will be too expensive then
Yep, these high end German cars are screaming "lease me!"
@@fortuneseek3rz364 …facts, but I have no regrets buying the car. It’s been trouble-free for 7 years. It’s still a very nice car. If I can get 3 more years out it I’ll be happy. It’s been just as reliable as the Hondas and Toyotas I’ve owned TBH.
As an owner of series E-60, I can attest to what he is saying. But here is the difference I bought my car used with less than 80K kms on the clock, I have owned it for 11 years now and hardly put another 80k on it, so the odo shows about 160k kms. Fron day one I went with oem parts, never went inside the dealership and found mechanics that allow you to bring your own parts. Yes they charge me a bit of higher labour but I save more than enough on parts as pretty much all autorepair shops in my parr of the world put a premium of 3 to 4 times on all spares. I still save tons. The ownership experience had been good, because the car had been very reliable, other than normal wear and tear.
The spare parts are still not as cheap as a Toyota or Honda or any other Japanese brand, but that isna given.
I am honestly not interested in buying newer BMWs because their design does not appeal to me but I am actively looking for an E46 330Ci, E36 318is and an E30 325i. I am in negotiations for at least two of them, and before buying I have already meet the requirements. I have a spare parts pipeline, mechanics that can work on them plus I also do basic maintenance such as engine oil change, brake oil change etc my self saving me further. Having said that my situation is unique to me and might not apply to others. The rule of thumb is thr car might be cheap now but it's still very expensive to maintain.
Haha yes indeed, there is now way out with a cheap BmW in the long run. Pay me now or pay me later.
If you can fix/maintain it, get one... Else run away, run away!!
True run free
Even for older cars, the parts can get insanely expensive. The best resource to save money on these cars is TIME. Working on them was not as bad as I thought it would be but it's very time consuming (a lot of plastic shrouds and torx bolts). I've been able to lower my annual costs by doing all maintenance items myself. For critical issues.... good luck man LOL.
A good strategy is to diagnose the car yourself, grab the parts you need that are OE not OEM (to avoid dealer mark ups) then head to a trusted mechanic and specify the exact job you would like done. I can't emphasize enough the importance of building a relationship with a good shop for these cars.
My 2014 BMW 328 still drives great with amazing fuel mileage - 261,000 km - I replaced an oil sensor at 18,000 km some pulley belts at 181000 km and a waste gate actuator . I complained about the Nav screen being a bit dark when I first purchased the car - they said they replaced it ( not sure if they did ) it it looked fine afterwards - all in all I am heavily impressed by BMW reliability. I also have a 2021 Z4 with the their amazing 6 cylinder engine but that only has 8,000 km - that’s my fun car and I don’t drive it a lot. I love my 2014 328 - grey with red leather seats . My Z4 is the attention getter but I secretly love my tried and tested 3 series.
Priorities… first buy a decent nice house that matches with your BMW. Please don’t buy a BMW and live on rental or in a council state… it’s becoming a trend and it’s awful!
Haha nice
I own a 2011 bmw lease buyout. I dont have those problems besides your regular maintenance or fixing something every once in a while. now I have 123,000 miles on it.
Fast talker salesman, but right on point for the vast majority. The main reason BMWs lose value so fast is people who buy them dog them, and won't buy them used for both that and status concerns.
Walmart has done oil service on my last six vehicles, synthetic $60, without issue. Never once pushed a belt or an air filter. They have protocols and follow them.
Just helped my daughter buy a 2004 Bavarian X3, $3500. At 178k still a fine machine, and she won't drive it like a race car so should serve her well for years to come.
Good video. BMW is a race car, that requires the repair parts and service of German mechanic. A race car needs to be replaced frequently, don't complain.
Correct me if I’m wrong, the upcoming sales ban will have little to no effect on private gas-powered vehicle sales in Canada.
So I believe you are incorrect when you say used prices will tank.
By 2035, you will no longer have the option to buy a new-gas powered car from a dealership.
Private sales won’t be affected.
Thanks for your thoughts on that
I think ICE vehicles are going to be very popular…I think prices will go up and not down IMHO. EDIT: I’d also point out, no one cares what Canada thinks about going electric, if California pushes back their electrification goals…and they probably will, does anyone really think Canada will be dictating anything to auto manufacturers? Nope. If California pushes electrification back another ten years so will Canada.
You’re incorrect. In Canada the cars will be banned. Who will buy your car privately? No one will want them and the government will roll out incentives to force people to buy electric. Gas prices are so high you’d be stupid not to buy an electric car. It’s like CD players, or cassette players or a Motorola flip phone - you can only use them for a certain time until they are useless to everyone
@@Lifeisapartydresslikeit I’m sorry, I am correct. The used ICE market will be alive for years to come. They won’t ban ICE just the sale of new ones (or that’s the idea) imagine thinking everyone will switch to electric in 12 years, with rising costs of living, a lack of infrastructure and growing wealth disparity, do you really see a product that has less than 1% market penetration in the world achieving 100% market saturation in 12 years? Where your vehicle spending budget dictates how far you can go? Few people can afford the this electric future, even fewer will want to be stuck with used EV’a with worn batteries…a world where your financial status dictates how far you can drive or short range precludes once easy to accomplish drives into natural areas with no chargers. Gas is flexible, not going anywhere, despite your magical thinking and it will be desirable because the vast majority of people in our country simple can’t afford go along with Rich Liberal, ideologically driven market manipulation like has been accomplished by picking electric as the default green technology. I won’t even talk about the inevitable reveal that electric will prove to be worse for the environment and transportation like trucking, bussing and other commercial ventures simply can’t adopt EV commercial vehicles because charging even a small fleet requires vastly more energy to charge than the factory that makes them even uses. People are at the moment blind to reality and unaware of the soon to be escalating costs of this nightmare as more and more manufacturers need more and more of resources there is less and less of every day. Electricity costs are already getting high and grid capacities are no where near what is required to make this work…especially in places like California. Look, right now, electric cars are a fiery-tale and an interesting topic of discussion as no one is forced to buy them, but when it gets to that point, the people who vote will take issues with policies like this that do nothing to address global warming since the vast majority of all transportation pollution is from the commercial sector which has no way of using electric trucks for long haul. This is a misinformed pipedream right now and it’s held aloft by policies that require ME to open my pocket book. This isn’t how you make good policy. A necessity do life shouldn’t be paywalled and electric cars will do that. So if you really think cheap ICE vehicles won’t be sucked up ultra fast from the market and reused again and again to help the majority of the population avoid having to pay the big bucks to get only similar range performance EV’s compared to their existing cars….then maybe you need to spend 10min thinking this through. The government can’t make anyone buy anything, nor take away what is already made. Voters, should they ever wake up may realize this rich liberal pipedream is in fact not going to help them and their old car is not, in fact, going to end the planet. Wait and see what happens. With how things are getting more expensive, you can bet real money that this will not go smoothly especially when the US is on the precipice of fiscal disaster.
@@LifeisapartydresslikeitYou said in Canada gas cars will be banned. Where’s your source for the timeline?
You don’t actually believe the infrastructure will be in place by 2035 to ban all gas cars do you??
If so you are very naive and need to do a little reading on what that would entail.
So, YOU are incorrect.
Even though they are expensive to keep, a BMW is an angel when compared to an Audi
I would a gree
I have a 330 17 model and is doing well for me! It's been a couple of years now and no problems. I stay up on my maintenance and actually drive my car. Don't let your BMW sit. If you're looking to get a BMW, do your research! Don't get a high mileage, check the maintenance history and look out for new and swapped parts. This might help you reconsider if anything. Bring a trusted mechanic too 🙏🏾
It’s loaded with technology, has high performance capabilities and is not linked to a larger car company which means parts are not mass produced. Lastly the sales numbers indicate that people love their BMWs. No one who can afford to buy a BMW is driving a Lexus. No one under age 60.
BMW is for the person poor at math or just doesn't care.
@@DerKirchenhocker
Meaning the people who can afford not to care about a car they will trade in every 3 years. BMW reliability is only an issue for poor people who have to keep a car for a long period.
@@drstevej2527 Exactly.
Ive owned 3 BMW's over the years and only had one model that gave me issues. Take care of your car and it will last. I also have a 2016 Jaguar XF 3.0 Supercharged. People say Jaguars are unreliable. Honestly Jaguars I've owned 2 of them are more reliable than my BMW and I've had no issues out of mu Jaguar vs my 2020 Lexus GS350 but i digress.
Cheers
yeah but, Lifes too short to be driving reliable cars
Gotta drive something fun as least
Bought my 1st BMW in 2015. it was a 2013 x5. Got for a great price. Do my own maintenance(all fluid, batteries, brakes and tires). 2024 and the x5 never had a problem. I bought another BMW...a 2020 430i. Awesome price. I love how the maintenance is what people fear so much that cause them to lose their value. Make them so affordable. lol
This video is misleading because it assumes people take thei cars to the dealership. We own 6 BMWs and never taken to dealership for service. I do my own maintenance and use an old fashioned independent garage for other service. You save a lot of money by doing you own services including brakes
I do much of my own too, but I found that eventually there is no stopping the bleeding and then its time to cut the losses
Same here…had my German engineered car for 7 years with no issues. But I will get rid of it before I start having major maintenance issues.
They are like the expiry date on cheese ,once the warranty has expired there's often a heavy repair bill around the corner.
Lexus please
Thanks
I'm mechanic in Russia.
BMW is a headache! 200 usd per hour for labour - it's worth it!
Usually if clients knows what we should change - they are wrong!
Exceptions will approve the rule. That's why we are charging for diagnostics anyway.
And yes - the diagnostic for bmw is very sophisticated.
Cheers
I would lease a BMW, not own it.
Great way to have the fun but not be punished
Same. Tbh i would probably try to get rid off it before the lease is up just to be safe.
I’ve gad two BMWs & I now have a GR Supra. I can tell you he’s right on what he’s saying. BMW does some of the silliest things with their cars & yes they try to get you to dump their older models. They use plastic in the most foolish places. Just changing the battery on the car is difficult for no reason. Go Japanese. Buy Lexus.
My used M2 wasn’t cheap 😂
Those hold their value
@@ECPP Thank God for that, hopefully I’ll be able to sell it for a decent price when I’m ready to move on 👍
Ehh I'm sure he's referring to non m series forb the most part. As M series will always hold value since the whole flex with owning one is only you paid a lot for it.
I owned a E46 for 3 yrs max. Subsequently owned a C200K and kept it for 9 years. That sums it up
Ha, I just picked up my used BMW today
Congrats, and happy motoring!👍
Nice, what did ya buy
2016 535i, the N55 feels so much better than the old N20 I had
@@calebc2748 N55/B58 power💪
@B58 💪💪
U would agree to some degre, especially if you service it at official service. I own a few bmw, usually 530d, and my usual service costs is 220 eur (i am from EU), oil, oil filter, air filter, work (1h). All done at a ex official bmw mechanic, gone private. I do oil and filter change every 15000 km, and newer had any problems, i usually run them from 100,000 up to 250,000 kilometers, newer had any issues with the straight 6 diesel. I do always insure them fully, so I don't care about the cost of damages and trim.
Best of luck to all of you, bmw fans.
Because they are junk after 6 or 7 years😂
That is a factor
I'd say about 10 years or 100k KM which ever comes first. BMW is notorious for engine/turbo fluid leaks after 10 years or 120k KM. Unless the driver drives it like a race car then 6-7 years can be achieved.
I bought a new 2012 335IS (N54) with only 15 miles on the odometer. Paid $67k for it back in 2012. Long story short, last week ignition coils quit working properly, oil leak at oil filter housing, cooling expansion tank started to leak, and cracked charge pipe at 30k miles. The car only has 35k miles and I still have it. No, I would never buy another BMW ever again!
That sounds about right. Those are typical failures and water pump and thermostat are other items waiting to go.
@@ECPP Thanks bro for your amazing work! These are the known issues, but BMW did nothing to improve it. Bad business practices.