Ex-MLB Player breaks down the anonymous player poll
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- The New York Times released their annual player poll this week and I geave my thoughts. There are a LOT of them.
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Modern baseball hat is sick
I was hoping sobering else would catch that.
Such a great band
I came here to say that exact thought
I wonder if he actually knows it’s a band or not😂
@@brando8commando I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
The travel for Seattle players is crazy. They're so far away from everywhere. Miami is technically closer to Rio than Seattle
Technically or literally?
miami is not closer to rio than seattle, it is closer to brazil in general though (and it is not particularly close), however something just as effective if not better at putting it into perspective is that miami is closer to lima, peru than seattle
They're close to the Giants, Rockies, Dodgers, A's, and Toronto.
@@addictedtoJB Toronto? Do you know where Toronto is?
@@mrSlush50 they're a hop and a skip away from Canada bro
I love that Zack Greinke got 1 vote on the "vibes" vote. He cracks me up
How did Cutch not get a single vote on the vibes one?!?!?!
Lance Lynn doing the interview after he threw 119 fastballs is 100% the person I want in the clubhouse every day.
would be nice to see more players respond to the poll, most questions had less than 100 responders.
Oh good, I’m glad to hear that. I don’t appreciate the anonymity when being negative. People do enough whining and complaining about others, not really into soliciting it.
If they removed the overrated BS, and any other questions that trash others, I’d be for it. But as is, I don’t want my guys taking part. Just my personal opinion.
You wanna criticize people, do it with your voice and your face out there. Otherwise, keep it to yourself. Some guy batting .180 with 6 RBIs calling Jaz or Bryce or whoever overrated is just weak to me.
4:51 less games equals less revenue. There are less people at the gates, less people spending money on concessions, less commercials being sold on tv. Maybe, you would get more tickets on average sold at some of the smaller markets that don’t do well so it would be less of a hit to them but their revenue share would be less from the big markets. The owners would make less money off the product so they in turn would pay people less. No where in life do you ever get more for less. You fooling yourself if you believe that.
The Naylor comment is spot on. As a Yankees fan, I went from hating him to having mad respect for him.
I asked a question and he answered and put it in the video. One the the best moments of my life.Trever may is great!
How is Rendon overrated when no one even rates him?
As a Jays fan, it blows my mind that Vlad isn't on that list. He's been declining for 3 years now.
Where would you want to play = "Everywhere but Canada." lol
As a twins fan I will always remember Sonny Gray picking vlad off in the AL Wild card. Really don't know how you guys forgave him after that
Are you a fan of the band modern baseball?
@@SamTheGriff I haven't. Lol The dude has talent, but it's becoming clear he doesn't have the Star Factor the media up here keeps saying he does. The league figured him out, and he hasn't adapted.
People think overrated means bad but it doesn’t
@@orangezapinator7450 Exactly. I could see an argument for most overpaid. But no one expects Rendon to do much.
I can't get on board with less games, I really like the amount of games they play now as a fan. I don't want records to never be broken, thats lame. I would be on board with adding a week or 2 of off days and hopefully that will help with pitchers' recovery.
Honestly, start the season a week earlier, and end it a week later. Since the WC series don't have travel, they can be consecutive days, then a travel day in the playoffs.
Or perhaps opening up the 40 man roster after the All-Star break? It would probably wreck a AAA or AA roster, but giving them a couple of months to recover is better than two or three weeks, especially if they're going for the playoffs (the minor league team).
Elly is very streaky. His big plays are electric but they're scattered between some rather cold stretches. Still, he's hitting pretty well for a shortstop overall (wRC+ of 117) and he's ranking as a plus defender with his cannon of an arm coming along. I think some of it is he plays with the attitude of a superstar but he's only a superstar for moments at a time. His game hasnt caught up to its hype, but it may well do so so the hype continues.
What do you think about using doubleheaders like once a week to give teams more off days?
Yes please
Do it as a Friday or Saturday special, and a day off somewhere in the week? Makes sense to me, but that's a lot of innings without rest between them. Might need an extra player on the rosters then.
I doubt the owners would like it but I like the idea
Bryce Harper being high on the list for vibes just goes to show how much the perception changed around Harper over the last few seaons
The Carlos correa overrated take has aged very poorly recently 😂
He's on a streak. Jazz goes on streaks.
@@TheSolidSnakeOilagreed but Correa has a lot of background to prove he isn’t overrated
If he can stay healthy I’m hoping he’ll stay hot. But if his plantar fasciitis comes back, which it tends to do for a lot of people, he’s screwed. It’s a special kind of hell.
Enjoy his contract lol
Ohtani is by far the best player to ever play the game when going off of pure skills/talent. To be an all-star caliber hitter AND pitcher, even briefly? Nobody else comes close. It boggles my mind when people argue otherwise.
Hey Trev, why’d you skip Pete Alonso on the list of overrated players? Being you played with him and I’m a Mets fan I was curious your perspective on that.
Correa has been pretty great this year
I’d disagree with the fact that less games = less pay. It’s going to come up in negations when the time comes.
How about they have an individual player cap that isn’t factored by deferrals (I am not talking annual caps but overall contract amount capacity regardless of term)?
As a fan I hate the idea of a shorter season. The problem with other sports is the two days between games. This is even worse for the nfl as they only play 17 games, and only play 1 per week. Baseball is so good because you can trust that when you come home and relax about 90% of the time there will be a game on.
Jazz is by far the most overrated and most unlikeable
i miss modern baseball too :(
Trevor f&*kin May. Best baseball content on youtube. Also, you were so easy to cheer for when you were on my Mets. Great content as always. Thanks!
The issue with spreading the season out more with the same games is weather, areas in the north already struggle with weather in beginning and ends of the season. If you were to start the season in early-mid march instead of the end you risk having tons of rescheduled games.
Less games would mean less money. Stadium revenue is still a big part of salary, every game you cut reduces the pool of money that is available for the players.
Rendon not even liking baseball is just a meme at this point.
Also, how is TA on that first list? The Sox had to let him walk into free agency, because he had zero trade value. Now he's just doing the same thing in Miami.
The Yordan vote is from Robbie Ray
Do players visiting Seattle stay the Edgewater? Very nice hotel right near the ballpark. Expensive as hell lol but idk
Trevor, I agree a lot with the shortening of the season.
148 games would be good. What about back to the 154, even? 8 more off days is about an extra day a month. Wouldn't kill bullpens as much, rotations could stick to 5 far more often. Guys get a little extra rest, so everyone is more fresh and we get a more consistent good product.
Also, can we get 2 expansion teams so we can limit interleague play again?
Rendons stance is super sus. Looks like hes rubbing one out in the batters box
I’d like to see you answer those questions from a fans perspective for a mid market team though. Could be interesting.
You mentioned the lock-out and I laughed. Mike Golic Sr has been saying the same thing about NFL players for YEARS. No ex-player wants to straight-up say that many of the players are dumb when it comes to money/contracts/negotiation. Many grew up poor and the owners know it and take advantage.
"When something goes wrong what are you going to do?"
Go back to basics. People act like players never played before analytics took over.
I like the surveys asked to players, but I wish it was more dialed than from 50-100ish players answering
Maddux would dominate any era he would find the edge and stay there he had unarguably the best control of a pitcher ever you add on he had really good movement and once you put the IQ behind that of reading swings and situations he could throw 78 or 98 he’s going to dominate
I agree, but Maddux with six inches off the plate > Maddux that has to be on the plate.
I 100% agree the season is too long, and 148 feels like a good number. If the league really wants a better product and reduce injuries across the board, which I believe would lead to more popularity and income overall. Records with only 14 less games would normalize after a few years, especially with players actually playing a higher % of the games. Rarely does anyone actually play 162 games in a season. There really isn't a good argument for not reducing the number except the owners greed.
would love to see you react to one of trevor bauer's vlogs where he's explaining pitch mechanics/mentality or just his game approach compared to yours
Great suggestion! I'd love to, he's really good at explaining his process, it'd be a good time.
The other thing about converting from a 162 game season to 144 game season...the amount of player games wouldn't go down by all that much. Rotations almost never see all 5 guys pitch 130 innings throughout a season, those extra off days would just mean the starters start about the same amount of games and they'd need to plug in fewer call-ups to fill out the season. A total of 76 guys played in over 144 games last season out of the ~700 position players, we don't have the Ripken type ironmen in baseball anymore anyway.
The problem I have with less games is really about the All-time records. It'll take 25 years of people arguing about "He would of had more HR's the Judge if he could of played those 14 games. I think the better way to give guys a rest is add 2 more roster spots.
Lastly less games means less TV, less radio = $$. Bonus + Post, post season All-Star game
I appreciate the strong union rhetoric surrounding the play/pay balance. I’ve never heard a pro say to make their pay worth it they should be playing 5 games a day.
7:24 WHY?? They have MONEY. They can finally escape the south and move to a state that isn't at the bottom of every QoL measure in existence. Can move their whole family out of there if they wanted lol
When you have money none of the QoL issues exist any more. A lot of the nicer states that don't have those issues have other issues when it comes to having money. If you're also for there its nice to be where you're from.
Man, Trevor….less games is a no for me as a fan, bro. I’m cool with more off days and lengthen the schedule a bit, no problem. But I want my full 162, man. Baseball is my and many other’s obsession and passion, and the records being heavily impacted is a true difference maker too. 162 is perfect as a fan
Now, this is a fair review from someone that know wtf he's talking about.
I like how you said to really earn what MLB players are paid you'd be playing five games a day, that's really the truth
I agree theirs too many games. As a fan, I ain't even watching like 10-20% of my teams games. And I'm a Phillies fan, we're killing it.
Trev. I’ve seen multiple games this season of players literally swinging the bats out of there hands. Why do you think this is happening?? Maybe I haven’t watched as much baseball the last few seasons as now, but damn. I swear it’s been happening wayyyy to often. Anyone else’s input is noticed. Thanks
How do they select who is polled? Were all the players just asked?
Love the video, take it or leave it but I think it'd be a little more watchable if you were sitting a foot or two further from the camera.
I found myself scrolling down to get out of your face any time you went fullscreen with the facecam LMAO.
That’s an easy fix! I can do that
Is it controversial to say that maybe baseball players should make less money?
The Salary Cap has worked incredibly well in the NHL. It’s made it a more competitive league across the board.
Maddux was crafty enough that he would adjust to what umps were allowing/calling or not, IMHO. But unless you have a flux capacitor in your junk drawer, we'll never know.
I do, but no nuclear rector to generate the 1.21 gigawatts so we’re still out of luck.
@@silmarian well, that's understandable because the Libyans ain't what they used to be...
"Babe Ruth had what he had when he lived." -Trevor Vivian May
Baseball does effectively have a salary cap though; the luxury tax is by all effect a soft cap. If I were a player, I'd be willing to take a slightly lower luxury tax threshold in exchange for a floor that carries the financial penalties for teams that don't meet it. Its lucrative for owners to not spend, and that's bad for the game.
Elly is 21 years old. The kid is electric
I won’t be responding to any hate on this comment, but I’m glad someone finally said something about Maddux and the strike zone.
Oh absolutely. But that's one of the reasons why it's stupid - in any area of life - to judge people from the past based on modern criteria. His comments about Babe Ruth were more charitable to that notion, probably because his career was 60 years prior to Maddux's. But the reality is that, just because Maddux wouldn't have got the strike calls on many of his pitches from the 90s in today's game doesn't mean that Maddux would have stubbornly continued to throw balls 8" off the plate and expect strikes to be called. He'd have approached the game differently. Just like Ruth would have had to approach the game differently if he had been surrounded by other players that were reaching their full potential.
The greatest players in the game's history were great because they figured out what to do to stand out from the crowd in the era in which they played. And there is no evidence that, were they to play today, they wouldn't figure out how to do precisely the same thing.
So, comparisons across time are fundamentally flawed, and that fact is obvious, making anyone who is particularly opinionated about it pretty foolish.
Less games = less club revenue = less money for players
the irony of Rojas as an example of good player on bad marlins team for Chisholm when Chisholm crapped on Rojas so hard at the start of the season... Not criticizing, i really do love it. Gotta love baseball.
8:29 as long as housing is not given as a basic Human right for free to all people, then there will be houseless people. Every city has a houselessness “problem” because we live in a fucked up system which doesn’t guarantee the necessities for Humans to live
I don't think it's fair to call out Greg Maddux as if he was good because of the large strike zone. He and Glavine intentionally hit the corners and slowly expanded the strike zone. That was a big part of their talent. That being said, I still thinks it's absurd to expect people to do that now because they had incredible command that only a few people in history ever had. Only pitchers that hit their spots on every pitch can pull that off.
Mobo hat is the best pet of this video
Did Trevor May retire? Idk he was doing this 💀
It would kill the league to shorten the schedule so teams aren't playing 10-12 games in a row. At least one day a week so they could recover and/or travel. They grind even harder in the minors.
If Marcel ozuna and Gunnar Henderson keep this up I think they deserve to be in mvp convos
Is Correa really overrated? Seems like everyone just hates on him solely because of the astros scandal. He’s one of the best fielding shortstops I’ve seen and when his bat is on he’s the best player on the field which recently has been true
THE HAT GOES SO HARD
The "analytics say you gotta hit for power" argument seems weird to me when guys like Steven Kwan directly disprove it. Dude is a stud for Cleveland not simply because of good basic stats, but also elite plate discipline to walk as much as he strikes out and the good defense in all defensive metrics to make him arguably the best glove in left field. That dude should be making close to 20 mil a year if he keeps up his production.
Steven Kwan and Luis Arraez are the absolute extreme exceptions to the rule. On a large scale, most players will have more success the harder they can hit the ball
@@mr_fantastic4281They are exceptions in the modern game, but it's not like you can't have solid, valuable players that don't hit for much power, even if they aren't stars. If I were running a team, I'd want at least 1 speed+defense+contact guy on the bench, even if not to Kwans level on any of said fronts. Someone like Rajai Davis or Jarrod Dyson would be my ideal players for that mold.
Of course they’re opposed to a salary cap, because then they’d get less money, and the results from other questions on this poll clearly indicate that’s all players care about. (Even though they’re all massively overpaid as it is)
Not having a salary cap means the big market teams will always have an advantage. It’s created a league that is quite literally pay to win. Whoever has the most money wins, and it’s usually the Yankees. 🙄
I think the response to the season length has a LOT to do with the quote coming from Rendon who has not played 30 games in a season since he signed his fat contract..
No one wants to agree with that guy.....even if it benefits them or makes them look better..... the question would have gone better if it was an unassociated question
hi trevor
Is it fair to say though that the Rockies don't value analytics (pitching side of it that is) AS MUCH because of the unique circumstance of Coors Field? You said it, Free agent pitchers are not constantly knocking on the door to come to Colorado I assume cause of the altitude which means the Rockies have to basically rely on home grown talent in pitching or struggling pitchers looking to maybe revive their careers. I dont think the stone age quote is a fair one but i definitely understand it 😂😂
asg should just be a 7 inning slow pitch softball game on the full sized field
#12 is infuriating for fans. Without a salary cap/revenue sharing of some kind, its the crappiest of the pro leagues. Now its just bigger cities = more money.
Man you have to pay to read the article. LAME
Trevor, loved you on the Mets.
Correa won a playoff series for the Twins which is something you couldn't do.
i'm a reds fan and love elly but...yeah. people treat him like he's already a finished product. one of the best players in the league. he's definitely not that yet. it seems like he can get there, but who knows? he strikes out A LOT. he makes a lot of bad decisions in the field and commits a lot of unforced errors. he's got a lot of stuff to work on. it's gonna be very sad when he leaves the reds and becomes THAT GUY on another team.
its crazy that no oriole was named for the vibes list when they have the best vibes clubhouse in baseball
Amen about not having to drop pay for a handful less games. I get annoyed at that with my own coworkers but I can only imagine how annoying that must be when multiplied to 7 and 8 digit paychecks lmao.
Jose Siri not being on the vibe pole is diabolically disrespectful.
No comment about our mets being rated low??
"There's less money being paid to all the players total" in regard to a cap seems a whole lot like something that would lead to more parity and less stupidly huge contracts. Lower overall average team salaries would make the league more competitive. In a prior video you said you would need to play 5 games a day to justify 30 million but now say that more money good? For players maybe, not for fans who see everything around their teams becoing more and more expensive to participate in while the price of milk and bread gets inflated beyond affordability.
Also O'Neil Cruz should be on that over rated list.
Do many players just opt out of this? That’s the type of player I want for me team!!
Do you have all of your own baseball cards?
If you want 14 more off days a season just start baseball 2 weeks earlier, I think that could work.
A lot of the responses to this poll seem like they would fit a lot better a year ago
One of your best videos yet. Love the honesty which isn’t too prevalent in professional sports. We get stock BS answers and not what is REALLY going on. Thanks TM.
i miss modern baseball ‼️🗣️
Ohtani isnt the best player is baseball. Its bryce harper, this dude has been producing since entering the league. Ohtani has two good years and people wanna claim hes the best player, hes the goat, etc. hes top ten player in the oeague for sure but hes not the best or goat in the league.
I paused to read all the quotes that you skipped over. I want to know what US player said that they'd be too good and destroy everyone.. did they not see the last WBC? Lol
Outside of Vegas, Atlanta has the best strip clubs in the US. May be a factor…..just sayin’.
the one vote from yordan was jose alvarado
Idk man… Yordan basically hit Robbie Ray into a slump he hasn’t gotten out of. My bet is Robbie Ray
@@averagepufferfish5612 lol i was gonna say him but the causals wouldn’t have understood
Why would a shorter season not mean less money for the players? A shorter season certainly means less revenue.
Shorter season yes, less games not necessarily.
MLB needs a salary floor/ceiling. Your bias is showing.
yeah.. the way the ball comes off Ohtani's glove
That's why he's a DH
Why not 154 games? That’s what it was historically before expansion in the 1960s.
Pham is a guy that can’t take any criticism 😂
The MLB season is so incredibly long it's not even funny. Early April through November?!?!?!?!!? Get the hell outta here MLB.
Trevor May for commish
Dude, need the MoBo hat. Link?