@@TrevorMayBaseball Legends will say long after he has died. He will see this comment and still Issue it a ball even though all those many years before.. That nice call was right on the money.
Dude, your videos have been getting better and better. Kinda wish this one was longer. You had me dialed in and then it just ended abruptly. You’re a funny guy Mr. May. Keep ‘em coming.
two things...the TV screen overlay for strike zone is NOT what MLB uses to officially grade an umpire. It is for "informational purposes only" and varies from home team to visiting booths. You are right, in the old days, when we weren't being checked by a computer, we could "reward a pitcher" for "hitting his spots".
In the quaint town of Sweetville, nestled between rolling hills and flourishing raspberry fields, baseball wasn't just a pastime; it was a way of life. The town's heart beat to the rhythm of bat cracks and cheering crowds at Sweetville Stadium, a charmingly old-fashioned ballpark where families gathered every Sunday to watch the Sweetville Cardinals. The Cardinals had a secret weapon: their star pitcher, Trevor "Fastball" May, whose throws were so fast they seemed to blur the line between reality and magic. But Trevor had a secret of his own, one that not even his closest teammates knew. Before every game, Trevor would visit the town's beloved bakery, Kringle's Corner, to pick up a raspberry kringle-a delicious, flaky pastry filled with sweet raspberry jam. Owned by the ever-jolly Mrs. Kringle, the bakery was a cornerstone of Sweetville. Mrs. Kringle, with her round spectacles and flour-dusted apron, had an uncanny ability to bake pastries that brought good luck. The townsfolk swore by her creations, attributing everything from winning lottery tickets to surprise engagements to her legendary raspberry kringle. One sunny Sunday morning, as the Cardinals prepared to face their arch-rivals, the Mountainville Bears, Trevor felt an unusual flutter of nerves. Determined to keep his winning streak alive, he made his way to Kringle's Corner. Mrs. Kringle greeted him with her usual warmth, sliding a freshly baked raspberry kringle across the counter. "This one's extra special, Trevor," she said with a wink. "I've added a pinch of magic just for you." Trevor chuckled, not entirely sure if she was joking but grateful for the sentiment. He took a big bite, savoring the sweet, tart flavor that seemed to dance on his tongue, filling him with an inexplicable confidence. As the game began, the stadium buzzed with excitement. The Bears were formidable opponents, and the game was intense from the first pitch. Trevor's fastballs were sharper than ever, slicing through the air like a hot knife through butter. But it wasn't until the final inning, with the score tied and the bases loaded, that the real magic happened. With two outs and a full count, Trevor wound up for his final pitch. As he released the ball, it felt different, lighter somehow. The ball seemed to shimmer as it hurtled towards home plate, leaving everyone, including the batter, momentarily spellbound. The batter swung and missed, the ball landing with a satisfying thud in the catcher's mitt. The crowd erupted in cheers as the Cardinals celebrated their victory. Trevor, panting but ecstatic, couldn't help but think of Mrs. Kringle's words. Maybe there really was a pinch of magic in that raspberry kringle. From that day on, the legend of the magical raspberry kringle spread through Sweetville. Players and fans alike made it a pre-game ritual to visit Kringle's Corner, hoping to get a taste of that extraordinary pastry. And Mrs. Kringle, with a twinkle in her eye, continued to bake her special treats, knowing that sometimes, all it took was a little bit of magic to turn an ordinary game into an unforgettable story.
Good timing on the video. Huge call in first game in CWS. Think this is part of the reason baseball is great. 200+ calls 60+ plays, all lead to the outcome of the game. Everyone trying to do their best. One team wins at the end and the umpires always lose. Helps teach us life lessons. I Love Baseball
As a Tigers' fan, Galarraga's near perfect game still hurts. Jim Joyce handled it with class all the way though, and I never hear anyone bad-mouth him over it.
I think it’s the way he owned it, and was visibly upset over it. As opposed to say Joe West who basically doubled down when he tossed Boone over the fan shouting!
@@nateshear8150 No they didn't. Where are you getting that from? Rob Manfred said he didn't want to do it because it would open a "Pandora's box" of historical claims.
You've quickly climbed the mountain of becoming one of my favorite content creators. Perfect balance of education, rationalism, and great freakin' humor. Your personality is gold, brother.
Angel Hernandez's strike zone apparently consisted of two vertical rectangles at each side of the plate, everything else outside of that was a ball, even through the middle of the plate
raspberry kringle! dude you are so funny your videos always have me laughing! keep up the good work! first heard you on the rose rotation (would love to see you there again!) but your own channel is awesome thanks for the content!
The 90s is when i first recall ESPN seeing the overheard camera shot that would show if a pitch was inside or outside. It was from that shot that I realized the optical illusion you get on TV because of how the camera is not in a direct line behind the pitching rubber and home plate. Pitches are in reality slightly farther (not that much, but that 4-8 inches really, really matters) towards the right side of the shot, towards third base than they appear to be on the television broadcast.
The Galaraga blown perfect game broke my heart. I was touched by Joyce's apology and actually crying about it because he knew how big of a deal it was. The touchy feelings went away after rewatching the blown call. Sure, I make a mistake or two a year, but at the highest level of the best game on earth, you gotta be good in the clutch moments, just like the great players. Great video. Bucknor was horrible too. Never hear of the Raspberry Kringle. Sounds fantastic.
You had already gotten my sub for a great video about halfway through, especially since I well remember your playing career. Then you said it's still "too soon" still for Season 8 of Thrones. (For those that don't know, the finale of the show was May 19, 2019. We had a whole-ass pandemic since Game of Thrones ended.) I'm pretty sure I'll follow you anywhere after that. Bravo, Sir. :)
Greg Maddux was an amazing pitcher. Basically the entire Braves pitching staff from back in the day learned this from Maddux and if you were a Mets fan back in the day we used to rage about the unfair umpiring that the Braves pitching always got.
Fantastic video. Not used to finding well-thought-out, substantive perspectives on the internet. I think I may have... learned some stuff. Have to go lie down now.
Back in my day as a catcher, it was consistent. If the Blue was gonna give you outside low, that's where you went and then see how far he was gonna give you. You only got pissed if he all of a sudden decided he wasn't going to give it. It was about consistency. I for one am against Robo Umpires. Maybe playoffs. We have to have one thing left to yell at the TV for. It's half the fun.
For the Maddox pitches, the camera is skewed so far to the right side of the pitcher, I don't think it is clear if, or how far off, the pitches were off the plate. And that 'little box' is at best an approximation. But otherwise...
As a teen I read Ron Luciano's book. I remember how he wrote about guys like Rod Carew and Catfish Hunter had such strong reputations that umpires would be influenced. Watching the pitches of Maddux reminded me how he wrote that Catfish would throw one on the black and if he got a strike he would continue to throw it another 1/2 farther until you felt like he were in the dugout. And when you finally called a ball, he would throw the next one on the black and start the whole 1/2 in process all over again.
I only just found this channel due to recommendation. I have to say, you were great to watch play, but this may be your actual calling. You had me rolling the whole video.
Truly Wish I could've caught a game with you at the mound in Oakland. You seem like one of those dudes that plays the sport and you know you're good but you somehow stay grounded. Signed, A Giants Fan.
There is solid intel out there that his new focal point has become a book and potential movie deal. Richard Gere has offered an early hat in the ring to star in his role. Im guessing this helped out his early retirement. Of course this is hearsay, but it adds up.
wait that commentator really said "you gotta be SHAVING me" edit: as a big yankees fan, I apologize for those of us that threw chicken tenders at you. What really doesn't makes sense about that is each chicken tender is like $6 at the Stadium, seems like an expensive projectile choice
I doubt you’ll see this comment but: I think umpires should be given a heads up display inside of their masks that projects each players strike zone. Umps can adjust the zones pregame to fit their style but it would mean 100% consistency. I don’t think the tech is too advanced or even really that hard to implement, it would just take some time and probably lots of money (which I know automatically makes implementing this idea impossible)
The robo zone is much easier than that and gives the same result so makes more sense to continue testing that. Hopefully the challenge system will be ready sooner than later
It’s not just that Angel misses calls but he’s just unpleasant to be behind the plate. He doubles down when he’s wrong. Sure, he may not be the most inaccurate but that’s why people will remember him as one of the worst.
Raspberry Kringle??! ..That sounds delicious! I was at that Phillies game last year, when Angel tossed Harper. Even from the LF stands, we could tell Harper checked his swing
As someone who actually hates baseball (lol), I've known of Angel for YEARS. To the extent that I've known him and pretty much only him for the last decade plus and no one else within the MLB, and that should tell you something. He's a household time well beyond any who even give a second of time in a day to the sport let alone MLB. So you definitely can say he is the infamous MLB umpire in history for sure, no contest. He's a entire brand at this point. And that is due to his overall attitude, short fuse and just refusing to own up to his mistakes most of the time clashing with egos when a manager or player calls him out on his shit. That infamy fed his tendency to seek out that kind of recognition. Thus, everyone knows who he is.
I think the more frustrating things with umpiring these days is the lack of accountability, especially when it comes to how often guys are getting tossed over nothing.
I remember pitching in the 80’s and the strike zone changed the entire game every game depending on the size of the hitter. Armpits to just below the knees. It was hard to get short players out 😂😂😂 imagine if that was the case now…with HitTracks
Angel Hernandez has actually been described as an amazing person. My grandfather grew up and lived in Miami his whole life as a Yankee fan (because no Florida teams existed yet), and when the Marlins made it to the 03 World Series, Angel was actually able to get my Grandfather the tickets to go to game (I think) 5 in Miami! He didn't even really know him personally, Angel just wanted to help! So my grandfather always has a soft spot for Angel Hernandez because even though he sucks, he is a great guy! Just in case you're wondering, my grandfather, despite being a die hard Yankee fan his entire life, routed for the Marlins because he grew up in Miami and the Marlins had 1 World Series win at the time, and the Yankees had like 2000.
Just once I’d like to see more than Eric Gregg’s raspberry Kringle videos (strike zone about the size of a football red zone) from the 90s as indicators of the old strike zone, and oh yeah, I highly suggest you credit videos you use, like Foolish Baseball’s usage of the Maddux game
I remember when he tried to sue the league for not picking him for the world series and the independent firm basically said, They're justified because you are statistically one of the worst behind the plate.
Great explanation. Thanks for this. As a former referee (not baseball), I take exception by default with the never-ending criticism of those doing the best they can in a difficult situation. As a Tigers fan, I’ve even defended Jim Joyce. (Though I’m not sure what he was looking at on *that* call.) That said… Hernandez is horrendous. I have no idea why he was allowed to umpire at the highest levels for so long. He doesn’t even seem to care how bad he is, and good officials all take great pride in “getting it right.”
Even the robots can't track where the pitches, I'm not sure if that's just a problem with the TV stuff and needs more advanced tech. If you look at the little dot that shows pitch location on the TV and then look at Stat cast or another source they are often different. Hopefully there is someone who can do a better job at calling the game
So excited it's 5x Baseball time and not just 3x, especially if it involves roasting Angel (and GoT finale). Thanks for the Raspberry Kringle, love when my local Trader Joe's has them!
It really doesn’t help that different broadcasts can have different strike zones on tv for the same game. And then the pitch tracker on the mlb app is different. I constantly get texts from my friend saying the ump completely missed a strike that’s so far outside and then the app says the ball clipped the zone. I consistency in pitch tracking also creates people getting upset and reactionary.
The funny thing is Angel really looks the part. Handsome, in great shape. He’s the umpire from Central Casting. He just wasn’t very good at this. The ball and strike calling in the 80’s and 90’s was BRUTAL. Every ump had his own zone. It is better now.
I also notice that catchers in the 90s and 2000s were just a little better at framing too, so it never felt egregious when they call something off the plate
Angel was really good for Spencer Turnbull's no hitter. People hate on him because of his bad misses but percentage wise he's not terrible and like you said umpires are way better now than before. He deserves to crap for sueing MLB over racism but people acting like he's the worst is just wrong.
Will be on the lookout for a raspberry kringle...not sure I've ever tried it before. BTW, a video on how Greg Maddux picked apart the game would be awesome.
The human error factors into everyone's life. I love it in sports. It gives the losing team's fan base a reason to say they lost but should've won and it keeps us riled up for the next game and the next. I don't think people who want the umps out are thinking about the sport as much as a true fan of the game in all respects. Raspberry crinkle
Prior to all of the advances in technology MLB only asked plate umpires to be consistent within “their” zone as long as their zone is not unreasonable. With the new technology the training of umpires has resulted in the strike zone being more uniform from umpire to umpire.
Umpire's dont understand , its not the mistake so much as it is how you handle yourself after you've made the mistake . Jim Joyce comes to mind what a classy great umpire.
Baseball Doesnt Exist pretty well defended Angell in their video. The problem with Angel was when he made a bad call, it was beyond forgivable at how atrocious the call was.
To start with, a challenge system such as in MiLB needs to be instituted ASAP. We all see just how many bad calls they make and Manfred saying that robot umps can't be set up until the 2026 season is not acceptable. Enjoyed the GoT reference. Raspberry what?? Looks good, I wanna bite!
I honestly believe that the Erig Gregg game (Livan Hernandez vs the Braves) was from money being bet on the game. Greg Maddux was great at getting calls just off the plate, but Livan was getting calls literally in the other batter's box and if you watch the game those calls are only going against the Braves and not against the Marlins.
Raspberry Kringle is Santa Claus's younger and quite obnoxious brother. His famous catch phrase isn't near as cheery as Ho! Ho! Ho!, but is more commonly known as a Bronx Cheer or, as you may have already guessed, a "raspberry".
Jose Bautista once expressed his dissatisfaction with umpires by saying the game is hard enough, adding that what bothers him most is how his stats are negatively affected by mediocre performances from others. I don't know your stance on robo calls, but if I was a pitcher whose livelihood is predicated on doing a job well, I'd go bat-shit nuts if I was demoted due to bad calls. What say you?
I liked it a lot better when umps were just part of the game. They made a call, okay they got it wrong. And Randy Johnson murdered a seagull with a pitch. And yeah Maddux got the biggest strike zone in baseball. He didn't really need it, with his incredible skill and knowledge. And I agree completely: umps messing up are part of what makes baseball great.
We do need the automated strike zone. I'd still keep the home plate umpire but he'll wear an earpiece and have the balls/strikes told to him so he can call them. There's no reason to not have one at this point.
It took Angel two attempts to resign. The first one he signed his name 6 inches off the official signature line.
Nice
@@TrevorMayBaseball Legends will say long after he has died. He will see this comment and still Issue it a ball even though all those many years before.. That nice call was right on the money.
😂
Non-sequitur, but ever notice that resigned and resigned are spelled the same but mean polar opposites?
@@spddieselsupposed to be a hyphen in re-signs (as in signing again) though
In 1979, the umpires thought they went on strike, but it was actually a ball. They were clearly outside.
oof
Bruh
Ha ha 😆
Glad you’re educating the youngsters. The strike zone was a totally different shape in the 90’s. Thing was a landscape rectangle.
And each umpire had their own strike zone
Yes in the 90’s we knew from the knee to the chest was being called a strike as long as it wasn’t outside or too far inside
@@shanewoods1980which like, when did it change? Cuz I’m pretty sure it never officially changed 😂😂😂. So like WTF?
Commentators used to say the strike was as large as the plate plus a ball on each side, in the 90s
I love that you're breaking this down in a calm, straightforward manner, with just the right amount of humor.
Dude, your videos have been getting better and better. Kinda wish this one was longer. You had me dialed in and then it just ended abruptly. You’re a funny guy Mr. May. Keep ‘em coming.
agree i like his style and hes funny
two things...the TV screen overlay for strike zone is NOT what MLB uses to officially grade an umpire. It is for "informational purposes only" and varies from home team to visiting booths. You are right, in the old days, when we weren't being checked by a computer, we could "reward a pitcher" for "hitting his spots".
I know that lol, my point was the people at home can now know GENERALLY how good a pitch was.
In the quaint town of Sweetville, nestled between rolling hills and flourishing raspberry fields, baseball wasn't just a pastime; it was a way of life. The town's heart beat to the rhythm of bat cracks and cheering crowds at Sweetville Stadium, a charmingly old-fashioned ballpark where families gathered every Sunday to watch the Sweetville Cardinals.
The Cardinals had a secret weapon: their star pitcher, Trevor "Fastball" May, whose throws were so fast they seemed to blur the line between reality and magic. But Trevor had a secret of his own, one that not even his closest teammates knew. Before every game, Trevor would visit the town's beloved bakery, Kringle's Corner, to pick up a raspberry kringle-a delicious, flaky pastry filled with sweet raspberry jam.
Owned by the ever-jolly Mrs. Kringle, the bakery was a cornerstone of Sweetville. Mrs. Kringle, with her round spectacles and flour-dusted apron, had an uncanny ability to bake pastries that brought good luck. The townsfolk swore by her creations, attributing everything from winning lottery tickets to surprise engagements to her legendary raspberry kringle.
One sunny Sunday morning, as the Cardinals prepared to face their arch-rivals, the Mountainville Bears, Trevor felt an unusual flutter of nerves. Determined to keep his winning streak alive, he made his way to Kringle's Corner. Mrs. Kringle greeted him with her usual warmth, sliding a freshly baked raspberry kringle across the counter.
"This one's extra special, Trevor," she said with a wink. "I've added a pinch of magic just for you."
Trevor chuckled, not entirely sure if she was joking but grateful for the sentiment. He took a big bite, savoring the sweet, tart flavor that seemed to dance on his tongue, filling him with an inexplicable confidence.
As the game began, the stadium buzzed with excitement. The Bears were formidable opponents, and the game was intense from the first pitch. Trevor's fastballs were sharper than ever, slicing through the air like a hot knife through butter. But it wasn't until the final inning, with the score tied and the bases loaded, that the real magic happened.
With two outs and a full count, Trevor wound up for his final pitch. As he released the ball, it felt different, lighter somehow. The ball seemed to shimmer as it hurtled towards home plate, leaving everyone, including the batter, momentarily spellbound. The batter swung and missed, the ball landing with a satisfying thud in the catcher's mitt.
The crowd erupted in cheers as the Cardinals celebrated their victory. Trevor, panting but ecstatic, couldn't help but think of Mrs. Kringle's words. Maybe there really was a pinch of magic in that raspberry kringle.
From that day on, the legend of the magical raspberry kringle spread through Sweetville. Players and fans alike made it a pre-game ritual to visit Kringle's Corner, hoping to get a taste of that extraordinary pastry. And Mrs. Kringle, with a twinkle in her eye, continued to bake her special treats, knowing that sometimes, all it took was a little bit of magic to turn an ordinary game into an unforgettable story.
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Excellent story, boss
if you take the first letter from every paragraph you get "ITOOTTAWTF" so yeah still nonsense
@@hi2u670 LOL
@@TrevorMayBaseball I know you love your story. :) I used the bakin' word of the video "raspberry kringle". Love ya keep up the good work.
Good timing on the video. Huge call in first game in CWS. Think this is part of the reason baseball is great. 200+ calls 60+ plays, all lead to the outcome of the game. Everyone trying to do their best. One team wins at the end and the umpires always lose. Helps teach us life lessons. I Love Baseball
Your videos used to be great…but now they’re amazing!!!! They literally keep getting better! This was a fantastic video!
As a Tigers' fan, Galarraga's near perfect game still hurts. Jim Joyce handled it with class all the way though, and I never hear anyone bad-mouth him over it.
I think it’s the way he owned it, and was visibly upset over it. As opposed to say Joe West who basically doubled down when he tossed Boone over the fan shouting!
MLB has the ability to overturn the call and give him credit for a perfect game!
@@22shroomsterthey did
@@nateshear8150 cool
@@nateshear8150 No they didn't. Where are you getting that from? Rob Manfred said he didn't want to do it because it would open a "Pandora's box" of historical claims.
You've quickly climbed the mountain of becoming one of my favorite content creators. Perfect balance of education, rationalism, and great freakin' humor. Your personality is gold, brother.
Angel Hernandez's strike zone apparently consisted of two vertical rectangles at each side of the plate, everything else outside of that was a ball, even through the middle of the plate
raspberry kringle! dude you are so funny your videos always have me laughing! keep up the good work! first heard you on the rose rotation (would love to see you there again!) but your own channel is awesome thanks for the content!
The 90s is when i first recall ESPN seeing the overheard camera shot that would show if a pitch was inside or outside. It was from that shot that I realized the optical illusion you get on TV because of how the camera is not in a direct line behind the pitching rubber and home plate. Pitches are in reality slightly farther (not that much, but that 4-8 inches really, really matters) towards the right side of the shot, towards third base than they appear to be on the television broadcast.
The Galaraga blown perfect game broke my heart. I was touched by Joyce's apology and actually crying about it because he knew how big of a deal it was. The touchy feelings went away after rewatching the blown call. Sure, I make a mistake or two a year, but at the highest level of the best game on earth, you gotta be good in the clutch moments, just like the great players. Great video. Bucknor was horrible too. Never hear of the Raspberry Kringle. Sounds fantastic.
You had already gotten my sub for a great video about halfway through, especially since I well remember your playing career.
Then you said it's still "too soon" still for Season 8 of Thrones. (For those that don't know, the finale of the show was May 19, 2019. We had a whole-ass pandemic since Game of Thrones ended.)
I'm pretty sure I'll follow you anywhere after that. Bravo, Sir. :)
Just discovered your channel. For a budding baseball fan like myself, it’s gold. Thanks
Will Clark once bought Angel a raspberry kringle, and got great calls the rest of his career.
Greg Maddux was an amazing pitcher. Basically the entire Braves pitching staff from back in the day learned this from Maddux and if you were a Mets fan back in the day we used to rage about the unfair umpiring that the Braves pitching always got.
Fantastic video. Not used to finding well-thought-out, substantive perspectives on the internet. I think I may have... learned some stuff. Have to go lie down now.
Back in my day as a catcher, it was consistent. If the Blue was gonna give you outside low, that's where you went and then see how far he was gonna give you. You only got pissed if he all of a sudden decided he wasn't going to give it. It was about consistency.
I for one am against Robo Umpires. Maybe playoffs. We have to have one thing left to yell at the TV for. It's half the fun.
69 views in 5 minutes Angel Hernandez says most viewed video in internet history
Thank you for including the Joe Nathan save. When you have Ben Zobrist at the plate and he reacts that strongly, you know the ump messed up big time.
The 80s to 2000s golden age of baseball...yep. fucking 94-95 strike was definitely golden
One year does not define 20+
For the Maddox pitches, the camera is skewed so far to the right side of the pitcher, I don't think it is clear if, or how far off, the pitches were off the plate. And that 'little box' is at best an approximation. But otherwise...
As a teen I read Ron Luciano's book. I remember how he wrote about guys like Rod Carew and Catfish Hunter had such strong reputations that umpires would be influenced. Watching the pitches of Maddux reminded me how he wrote that Catfish would throw one on the black and if he got a strike he would continue to throw it another 1/2 farther until you felt like he were in the dugout. And when you finally called a ball, he would throw the next one on the black and start the whole 1/2 in process all over again.
I only just found this channel due to recommendation. I have to say, you were great to watch play, but this may be your actual calling. You had me rolling the whole video.
Truly Wish I could've caught a game with you at the mound in Oakland. You seem like one of those dudes that plays the sport and you know you're good but you somehow stay grounded.
Signed, A Giants Fan.
There is solid intel out there that his new focal point has become a book and potential movie deal. Richard Gere has offered an early hat in the ring to star in his role. Im guessing this helped out his early retirement. Of course this is hearsay, but it adds up.
wait that commentator really said "you gotta be SHAVING me"
edit: as a big yankees fan, I apologize for those of us that threw chicken tenders at you. What really doesn't makes sense about that is each chicken tender is like $6 at the Stadium, seems like an expensive projectile choice
I doubt you’ll see this comment but: I think umpires should be given a heads up display inside of their masks that projects each players strike zone. Umps can adjust the zones pregame to fit their style but it would mean 100% consistency. I don’t think the tech is too advanced or even really that hard to implement, it would just take some time and probably lots of money (which I know automatically makes implementing this idea impossible)
The robo zone is much easier than that and gives the same result so makes more sense to continue testing that. Hopefully the challenge system will be ready sooner than later
I had no idea I would enjoy this video so much. Thank you for taking the time to add humor and elite editing - subscribing!
Miss Trevor.....wish he were still in the Mets bullpen. Great video!
It’s not just that Angel misses calls but he’s just unpleasant to be behind the plate. He doubles down when he’s wrong. Sure, he may not be the most inaccurate but that’s why people will remember him as one of the worst.
You got my sub for the joke at the end about Angel not getting your call wrong. LMAO. That was good.
Raspberry Kringle??! ..That sounds delicious! I was at that Phillies game last year, when Angel tossed Harper. Even from the LF stands, we could tell Harper checked his swing
As someone who actually hates baseball (lol), I've known of Angel for YEARS. To the extent that I've known him and pretty much only him for the last decade plus and no one else within the MLB, and that should tell you something. He's a household time well beyond any who even give a second of time in a day to the sport let alone MLB. So you definitely can say he is the infamous MLB umpire in history for sure, no contest. He's a entire brand at this point. And that is due to his overall attitude, short fuse and just refusing to own up to his mistakes most of the time clashing with egos when a manager or player calls him out on his shit. That infamy fed his tendency to seek out that kind of recognition. Thus, everyone knows who he is.
Thank you for lifting my spirits after the A’s last game.
Angel's problems stem from his arrogance and unerring ability to blow calls at exactly the wrong moment.
I think the more frustrating things with umpiring these days is the lack of accountability, especially when it comes to how often guys are getting tossed over nothing.
Your content gets better and better.
Keeping Mr. Al Gorythm, happy. Cool premise, and well put together video. Best of luck to you.
I remember pitching in the 80’s and the strike zone changed the entire game every game depending on the size of the hitter. Armpits to just below the knees. It was hard to get short players out 😂😂😂 imagine if that was the case now…with HitTracks
I was at a Royals game in the '23 season, Angel got announced as the home plate ump, and there was audible anger around us in the stands
Angel Hernandez has actually been described as an amazing person. My grandfather grew up and lived in Miami his whole life as a Yankee fan (because no Florida teams existed yet), and when the Marlins made it to the 03 World Series, Angel was actually able to get my Grandfather the tickets to go to game (I think) 5 in Miami! He didn't even really know him personally, Angel just wanted to help! So my grandfather always has a soft spot for Angel Hernandez because even though he sucks, he is a great guy! Just in case you're wondering, my grandfather, despite being a die hard Yankee fan his entire life, routed for the Marlins because he grew up in Miami and the Marlins had 1 World Series win at the time, and the Yankees had like 2000.
Only been a baseball fan for a couple years, honestly curious to see you do one of your own games like this.
Just once I’d like to see more than Eric Gregg’s raspberry Kringle videos (strike zone about the size of a football red zone) from the 90s as indicators of the old strike zone, and oh yeah, I highly suggest you credit videos you use, like Foolish Baseball’s usage of the Maddux game
I remember when he tried to sue the league for not picking him for the world series and the independent firm basically said, They're justified because you are statistically one of the worst behind the plate.
I just discovered your channel and I really love your videos.
Raspberry crinkle.
I think people would hate robo calls as it would sanitize the game too much. Then they'll have no scapegoat to blame when their team loses.
Raspberry Kringle and what a refreshing take on umpires just being human. Thank you Trevor.
Great explanation. Thanks for this.
As a former referee (not baseball), I take exception by default with the never-ending criticism of those doing the best they can in a difficult situation. As a Tigers fan, I’ve even defended Jim Joyce. (Though I’m not sure what he was looking at on *that* call.) That said…
Hernandez is horrendous. I have no idea why he was allowed to umpire at the highest levels for so long. He doesn’t even seem to care how bad he is, and good officials all take great pride in “getting it right.”
Even the robots can't track where the pitches, I'm not sure if that's just a problem with the TV stuff and needs more advanced tech. If you look at the little dot that shows pitch location on the TV and then look at Stat cast or another source they are often different. Hopefully there is someone who can do a better job at calling the game
love these vids, trev!!
raspberry kringle - that last clip was hilarious
So excited it's 5x Baseball time and not just 3x, especially if it involves roasting Angel (and GoT finale).
Thanks for the Raspberry Kringle, love when my local Trader Joe's has them!
id like to thank Angel for giving me tons of laughs at all the player rages over his awful calls .
Always enjoy your content!
Curious about your personal experiences with him, but you were pretty fair with both sides of the argument. Keep at it, good sir!
You’re absolutely killing it Trev
It really doesn’t help that different broadcasts can have different strike zones on tv for the same game. And then the pitch tracker on the mlb app is different.
I constantly get texts from my friend saying the ump completely missed a strike that’s so far outside and then the app says the ball clipped the zone. I consistency in pitch tracking also creates people getting upset and reactionary.
The funny thing is Angel really looks the part. Handsome, in great shape. He’s the umpire from Central Casting. He just wasn’t very good at this.
The ball and strike calling in the 80’s and 90’s was BRUTAL. Every ump had his own zone. It is better now.
Raspberry Kringle. Is that a real thing? If so, I want a piece with lots of whipped cream! Great video!
I also notice that catchers in the 90s and 2000s were just a little better at framing too, so it never felt egregious when they call something off the plate
Chefs kiss on that last highlight
Also, nice job here man. Really gets to the heart of where we are.
Raspberry cooki...err, ice cr... crap, pie? Shite!!! What the hell was it? Now I gotta watch the whole video again.😁
Angel was really good for Spencer Turnbull's no hitter. People hate on him because of his bad misses but percentage wise he's not terrible and like you said umpires are way better now than before. He deserves to crap for sueing MLB over racism but people acting like he's the worst is just wrong.
As an Oakland A's fan for life I am loving this channel! love that call at 12:57 LOL!
Will be on the lookout for a raspberry kringle...not sure I've ever tried it before. BTW, a video on how Greg Maddux picked apart the game would be awesome.
Raspberry kringle is 100% what i'm getting for a breakfast tomorrow at the bakery. Love the vids TM
The human error factors into everyone's life. I love it in sports. It gives the losing team's fan base a reason to say they lost but should've won and it keeps us riled up for the next game and the next. I don't think people who want the umps out are thinking about the sport as much as a true fan of the game in all respects. Raspberry crinkle
I’m a big proponent of pursuing “better” instead of perfection. Give me pitch challenges and I think we’re close to ideal
@@TrevorMayBaseball that would definitely bring more balance to the game and who doesn't love balance in their lives? Love the content my dude 😎
Aye yo trevor! I live like 10 mins from longview and used to watch you play high school baseball!
Prior to all of the advances in technology MLB only asked plate umpires to be consistent within “their” zone as long as their zone is not unreasonable. With the new technology the training of umpires has resulted in the strike zone being more uniform from umpire to umpire.
Which has ruined baseball
Umpire's dont understand , its not the mistake so much as it is how you handle yourself after you've made the mistake . Jim Joyce comes to mind what a classy great umpire.
Trevor May makes me laugh, love this video! 😂
That livan Hernandez game was insane when you watch it now
Always love the content, pal!
Raspberry Kringle???? I couldn’t tell what you said lol.
You earned a new subscriber today!
Eric Gregg will forever be FAR WORSE than any Angel Hernandez calls. It’s not a coincidence both the 90s clips were his games….
Baseball Doesnt Exist pretty well defended Angell in their video. The problem with Angel was when he made a bad call, it was beyond forgivable at how atrocious the call was.
“Is Angel Hernandez the 8th season of Game of Thrones?” is spicy.
To start with, a challenge system such as in MiLB needs to be instituted ASAP. We all see just how many bad calls they make and Manfred saying that robot umps can't be set up until the 2026 season is not acceptable. Enjoyed the GoT reference. Raspberry what?? Looks good, I wanna bite!
That clip at end was superb. Also raspberry kringle.
Great work!
Good stuff, man. :-) Great ending! :-D Oh and, RASPBERRY KRINGLE!
I honestly believe that the Erig Gregg game (Livan Hernandez vs the Braves) was from money being bet on the game. Greg Maddux was great at getting calls just off the plate, but Livan was getting calls literally in the other batter's box and if you watch the game those calls are only going against the Braves and not against the Marlins.
Nah, that was always Eric greggs zone. As bad as it was he was pretty consistent for many years
Raspberry Kringle is Santa Claus's younger and quite obnoxious brother. His famous catch phrase isn't near as cheery as Ho! Ho! Ho!, but is more commonly known as a Bronx Cheer or, as you may have already guessed, a "raspberry".
Jose Bautista once expressed his dissatisfaction with umpires by saying the game is hard enough, adding that what bothers him most is how his stats are negatively affected by mediocre performances from others. I don't know your stance on robo calls, but if I was a pitcher whose livelihood is predicated on doing a job well, I'd go bat-shit nuts if I was demoted due to bad calls. What say you?
Great video, thanks for sharing
Love everything you've been doing.
I enjoyed Trevor as a player, and he may be even more enjoyable as a content creator. This is one funny guy.
Rasperry Kringle 7 months later feels awkward, but love the take on umpires all around.
I didn't need to see Braves pitcher Greg Maddux again. I still have PTSD from back in the day, when dunked on my team, The Mets, all the time.
Thank you for that last little clip of clearly a bad Angel call to your personal benefit. Just found your channel, but good first impression.
I liked it a lot better when umps were just part of the game. They made a call, okay they got it wrong. And Randy Johnson murdered a seagull with a pitch. And yeah Maddux got the biggest strike zone in baseball. He didn't really need it, with his incredible skill and knowledge. And I agree completely: umps messing up are part of what makes baseball great.
Your best video yet! Cheers, a raspberry cringle enjoyer.
We do need the automated strike zone. I'd still keep the home plate umpire but he'll wear an earpiece and have the balls/strikes told to him so he can call them. There's no reason to not have one at this point.
That Livan Hernandez game isn't fair. The umpire got caught hating the Braves. Unlike Ryan Braun, this time I think it's the truth.
His retirement day is one of the greatest days in sports history
Well Mr. May you've done it again! rather enjoyable episode.
Raspberry Kringle. :)