Lenovo P510 ThinkStation Is It Worth It In 2023?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hi Folks,
I've got my hands on a bit of a budget power house! Is Lenovo P510 ThinkStation Is It Worth It In 2023? We'll lets find out.
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TimeStamps
00:00 - Intro
00:56 - What Did We Get?
05:34 - Benchmarks
06:50 - Games
09:20 - Conclusion
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Love ya content. Keep up the great work. Loving the budget computers.
Thanks! Will do! ❤️
love these workstations built like a tank
Yeah there solid old things! Thanks for the comment 🙏🏼
And they weight as much as a tank lol
Just bought one of those dirt cheap for 70 USD with a 650w PSU, Samsung SM591 with 512 GB, 16GB RAM, Xeon E5-1630 (will definitely be upgraded) and a Nvidia Quadro K620.
For 70 USD that's one hell of a steel for a 2016 Workstation. TBF, I did not know what I bought at the time of the purchase. 😅
Great video Andy, I really like that workstation as a good starting point for someone looking to get into budget gaming.
Hi buddy, yes I mean if your looking for a solid base unit it beats the Dells/HP mini towers you just get so much more for your money. Slap a GPU in and your away!
I have a real soft spot for Xeon systems... This little beastie has some room to become a much nastier little bugger.
As always, much love for you and all that you do. Can't wait for the upgrade video.
Thanks mate, yes its definitely got potential and I think you’ll enjoy what becomes of it 🤩
Why? (Xeon)
looks like we both had a similar idea. i got myself a dell workstation with two xeon e5 2687w v3 and an used gtx 1080ti founders edition from ebay. works great but i am currently looking for a newer case with more airflow because mine has only 2 fans to get rid of the 320W combined tdp from the cpus. cant wait for the upcoming video
2 E5 2687 v3’s that’s just greedy! Love it 😎💪🏼
@@andystech101 thanks :D
Great vid. My p520 arrived today
Happy days 🤩
If I am not mistaken, for the M.2 NVMe SSD you need the Flex riser card part# 00FC864. Per the specs sheet, the P510 supports up to one 512GB SSD but I am not sure if this was limited per the BIOS or what was available back in 2016 that this Workstation was marketed. The same goes for the HDD, the specs suggest up to 4TB capacity but again I am not sure if this is per the BIOS or the technology in 2016. Have you tried anything larger?
it's just pice, so get an pcie to m.2 card and bobs your uncle...8TB m.2 ssd.
I picked myself a hp z440 with a E5 1650 v3 won a bid for it eventhough the listing said it had a E5 1620 v3 a happy suprise at the end.
Great video btw!
Thanks for the comment and always nice to get a cheeky freebie upgrade 🤩
@@andystech101 the m.2 compatibility thing im pretty sure it means that it can support it so if you get an adapter it should work fine.
Yeah I’ve already tried a 256GB drive in a PCIe adapter and it reads it fine as a second drive but I’ve not tried it as a boot drive yet so 🤞🏼
Absolutely worth it in 2022. :) Great find!
Thanks Antonio, nice to here from you 🙏🏼
Lenovo shows a front bay model with an M.2 drive that is removable. It sits right near the DVD drive bay. Thisis 6 months later and I just picked up the P620 for the same money and it's very nice and has 64 gigs of ram and the Xeon W2135.
Nice buy! Yes seems like the P620s had quite hit the affordable used market here in the uk at the time. It’s been a bit of love hate relationship so far as I’ve had no end of problems with the thing! So much for server build quality. Maybe I just got unlucky but mines been shelved for now 😅
Hi, great vid. I have one with 1630v4 do you know what the max processor I can upgrade to? Did you ever get round to upgrading your system? I'd be interested in what you did👍🏽
Cheers bro, depending on what you want the cpu for you can go for a lower clocked 24core 2699 v4 or for gaming I like the 2666 v4 for gaming. The motherboard broke after the video unfortunately so 🤦🏽
I suggest taking a view at z440 or/and P520.
Just below the bottom ram slot your see another PCIe slot next to the SATA power ports on the motherboard this is for a Lenovo ThinkStation Flex Adapter that supports one PCIe Gen 3 M.2 SSD and one SATA 3 M.2 SSD. I have this same P510 and it came with this already installed. I have the Intel Xeon E5-1650 V4 6 core 12 thread 3.6GHz CPU installed, the SAPPHIRE NITRO+ RX 580 8GB GPU, 650 watt PSU, came with 16GB 2400MHz ECC ram(upgrading next month) I did install a 32GB non ECC ram for now till I can upgrade to more ECC ram and it's working even though it shows online the P510 don't support non ECC ram.
Overall it's a great budget gaming computer just don't drop it on your toes you may not have any toes left because it's HEAVY lol
Thanks Adam, I knew there would be something like that. I think I’m going for now with a cheap PCIe riser card from Amazon which should do what it needs to do. Yes it is a heavy old girl it’s like a pc/home gym in one 😁
I'm here for the follow up video! Where is it Andy!?
I am looking at getting one of these and throwing a $25 E52690 v4 into it. My only hesitation is I hope I get one with that 650W PSU.
It broke 🤦🏽 won’t boot past post so I gave up with it! I may get round to it at some point but it’s sat in the corner feeling sorry for itself at the moment 🤣 think the motherboards gone, hope you have better luck than me 🙏🏼
I am looking at these for a homelab setup as they have great expandability.
Andy are you able to confirm if the bios shows any birification options for the PCIe x16 slot? I want to know if its possible to split the x16 into a x4x4x4x4 so then something like the ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 Gen 4 Card can be used to present 4x m.2 drives. The lenovo site doesnt really confirm if birification is possible.
Hi Stephen will have a look for you next time I boot it up. I’m running a single m.2 adapter at the moment and I know you can buy the Lenovo adapter as well with has a couple so fingers crossed. Would make sense really
I have one of these myself and I'm curious how the upgrades go for you. The Flex Adaptor for m.2 support takes up space that a longer GPU might occupy and I think a fan could fit in that space instead for extra air intake. A pcie adaptor is a good idea, but can you boot from those?
In my case I'm considering buying a 6600 xt or 3060 to slap in there for 1440p gaming.
Thanks for the comment, I’ve still not sure what gpu to do for and may just end up putting my RX6600 in! I’ve added a PCie m.2 adapter but I’m not using it as a boot drive, may see if I can and have a play around. Still really impressed for the price though and I’ve added a e5 1650 v3 which I had in a draw just for a temporary 2cores and 4 threads 🤩
@@andystech101 Update: I purchased a Sapphire Pulse 6700 xt to slap in mine. Everything seemed to be working fine until it wasn't. PC booted, installed sapphire's trixx software to update drivers. Booted Elden Ring and played a few minutes until the system crashed. Couldn't get the fans on the GPU to spin after that. Tried installing it in my main gaming rig (3080 ti) and still nothing. Going to RMA it.
The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti draws power from 1x 12-pin power connector, with power draw rated at 290 W maximum. Specs for these Thinkstations say 250W max consumption on PCIe Gen 3 slots, so not sure if I would risk going that high. But still plenty of other cards that would work. ie: GeForce RTX 3060 Ti, 8GB GDDR6, Dual OC V2 only uses 200W power consumption, and only needs 8 Pin Power.
Good idea I have a RTX 2080 in mine already and was thinking about upgrading in the future but so far the 2080 has done well enough
You can always undervolt the 3070ti and it will pull around 220w
Did you make a follow up video of the upgrades thanks
It’s still on the cards, the system broke shortly after the video and I haven’t got round to fixing it yet 😅
Literally just picked up one of these myself. Curious what upgrades (and maybe mods) you’re gonna throw at it. I was thinking about a 580 as well, but opted for a P4000 as I’m using more as a workstation than for games.
Thanks for the comment, I’d really like to get a liquid cooler in there somehow and at the moment I’m going for a 5700XT I won off eBay for £100! Still not decided on the cpu but it needs at least 8core, I slapped a 1650v3 in there for now as I had it lying around. Will be putting an m.2 in there as well just trying to get it all together at the moment!
@@andystech101 now liquid cooling would be very interesting. I’ve decided to go 16 core with the E5-2697AV4 and was looking at what 3rd party air coolers I could jam in there. I picked up a PCIe m2 adapter as well. Did you update / flash the BIOS yet? That was an interesting process without having Windows installed.
@@andystech101 Basically, I did the same with an E5-1660 v4 and a 5700xtt. Slapping FPS for the budget. Thanks for the vid!!!
Hi Andy, great video! I've just picked up p510 myself. Can you send me the link to pcie riser card you've bought to connect nvme ssd, also what wifi/bluetooth card would you recommend? Cheers
Hi sorry about the late response, yes sure it’s this one www.amazon.co.uk/EZDIY-FAB-Express-Adapter-Support-22110/dp/B075TF6HFM/ref=asc_df_B075TF6HFM/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310762440393&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10918429485544246836&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006734&hvtargid=pla-587168356302&psc=1 it was the cheapest one I could find on Amazon, seems to work ok! You can buy the proper Lenovo add in card www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364232122073?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=VpNaYkAtRm-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=aaM8B7ONQqS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY but they seem a little expensive. Generally for WiFi I’d go TpLink as they never let me down www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Antennas-Bluetooth-Dual-Band-Low-Profile/dp/B0BTT1JN5N/ref=sxbs_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_btf_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.35e8a718-57ee-46fd-855e-20aa8c576cf7%3Aamzn1.sym.35e8a718-57ee-46fd-855e-20aa8c576cf7&crid=3N8OPETPOWM1I&cv_ct_cx=pcie+wifi&keywords=pcie+wifi&pd_rd_i=B0BTT1JN5N&pd_rd_r=585aaf11-f753-4259-8c40-0694b1207977&pd_rd_w=BnOBv&pd_rd_wg=aTHkj&pf_rd_p=35e8a718-57ee-46fd-855e-20aa8c576cf7&pf_rd_r=JG7WFQ1F0DM5HDPF4DKV&qid=1685526109&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=pcie+wifi%2Caps%2C78&sr=1-1-b25b1d43-cf3b-4443-a03a-3255cfe6ab54-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWNfYnRm&psc=1
@@andystech101 Thanks!
Love the metal beast. These will take the Broadwall E5 v4 Xeons and those are cheap too. More cores lowers GHz but 8 Core is good middle ground and 2x cores at 3.4GHz IIRC. I think the big plus is it has room for 2 full PCIe cards.
Hi Andy and everyone else!
Hi Pravculear 👋🏼
I got one earlier this year too , for £150 off ebay that was accepted by an offer from the seller , the orignal one i was bidding on I was just outbid at the last moments by a seller who bidded £155 . since then I have upgraded the graphics card to a rtx a2000 and the cpu to a e5-2660 v4 14 cores (£36 on ebay with a 2 year warenty) , and most recently the ram from 32gb of 2133 ecc to 64gb of of non-ecc 2400 .Also I have used a pcie to m.2 adapter and purchased an additional front fan. the device is running great ! next looking to add wifi 6 and bluetooth 5.2 pcie card
I quite possibly outbid your there 😆 I was looking at the E5 2667 v4 but I probably need more cores tbh I’ve also brought a m.2 adapter just to run so fast cheap storage! Gpu wise I’m still on the fence but I’ve put a WX5100 in I had lying around in for now. Kind of got side tracked the last few weeks with work being so busy but looking forward to getting back to it.
@@andystech101 potentialy I ony looked at cpus with 12 cores and up , but i checked the cpu benchmark rating and the cost with gave me a prce to preformance score for each cpu that would have ben compatable , personally im waiting for the cost of E5-2696 V4 cpus to come down XD
I just got mine yesterday from eBay for $160. this thing is a beast for the price.
Definitely! Much prefer it over the Dells and HPs! It has a bit of character 😎👌🏼
Hi there great video, I wondering I have the same system my GPU needs 8 pin , do I just plug the 6x2 in to the GPU or do I need to buy adapter? thanks in advance 😊
Thanks, appreciate it! Just the 6+2 pin will work fine.
@@andystech101 thank you appreciate it 👌👍
I just picked up a Lenovo Thinkstation P520 after using a HP Z440 for a while I'm quite happy with it I doubt the P510 is that much worse though a big issue I have with my current P520 is the cpu cooler being really loud and when I turn it down to a lower setting the cpu thermal throttles is there a good cpu cooler I can upgrade to for lower sound/heat? I mean it does have a 4 pin connector it should work as long as a cpu cooler fits.
Thanks for the comment, strange that as the cooling on this seems pretty good, I believe it’s just standard X99/X99 mounting so you should be able to get a 120mm AIO or better tower cooler to fit. I could be wrong and need to do some research but it looks right. Will be doing to mods on this and would be nice to get a better cooling solution. You maybe be able to just replace the fan as well with a nice little Noctua one, I’m also adding a front intake fan to help with airflow as well at some point. Let me know if you find a cooler that fits 🙏🏼
I was thinking about doing a XBox Series S killer using a Dell T5810, E5-2667 V3 and RX 5600 XT, but I decided I don't have room for another bloody massive tower!
I’ve been thinking along the same lines and it’s definitely becoming doable again with the market the way it is! The era of Next gen console killers is upon us! Don’t worry I’m the same, my camper van is actually full of PCs at the moment 🤣
If u can build it for less then 250 go ahead but if its more may aswell buy the xbox if ur only using it to play games
Did you do it? I put in a 5500XT in mine.
You need a "M.2 SSD FLEX Adapter" (They are $30-$40)
"- The system must have the M.2 SSD FLEX Adapter installed in the FLEX Slot on the motherboard
- For P500/P510, the M.2 PCIe SSD must be installed in slot 1 on the M.2 SSD FLEX Adapter"
See I knew someone would know what there on about!
Yes just had a Google, I guess a cheaper option would be to buy a PCIe riser card off Amazon for a £10. Would be nice to get an M.2 fitted.
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
A more powerfull GPU and TW: 3K would be an interesting thing to test out.
I think we’re going 14cores and 2060super 💪🏼
HI guys, i got my hands on a P510, and i try to install a PCIe wifi/BT card. for now it's a failure, i tried with one based on intel AX200 and another based on AX210 (both chinese cards bought on amazon). Works perfectly on my other computers, but the P510 won't boot with either card inserted ?
Is the Hardware compatibility list this sensible ? or maybe theyre is a setting to do in the bios ?
edit : I have found the solution !
it's all bios settings
Devices -> Video setup : here manually select the PCIe slot of the GPU (normaly it's slot 2)
network setup : boot agent + network stack : disabled
advanced -> IOO -> PCIe hot plug + PCIe ACPI hot plug + power down unused ports : disabled
Glad you sorted it! These have some funny quirks! Mine still has a random post issue from time to time with no reason for it…
what graphics card would you recommend for this pc, I have a 970 but i'm looking for an upgrade
At the moment something like an RX5700XT or RX6600 for the £150 mark used. RTX 3060 12GB as well for the £200 mark. Little cheaper a GTX1070 or GTX1070ti
Should get one of them hp z440 come with 700 watt power supply there around the same price
Yes great systems for the right price but there not beautiful and get pretty hot and noisy from past experience 😅
@@andystech101 As a past owner of a Hp Z440 it's actually not that bad as long as you get rid of the stock fans.
I have a p520 with a rtx 3060 and it handles 1440p max settings like a boss.
I’m gutted I missed the P520 as it seems a better deal 6 months later!
I'm thinking of going with this setup. I'm wondering how the 3060 will do in Davinci Resolve Studio with the 12gb vram.
I ended up getting an rtx 2070 with a p520 as it was cheaper. Pretty good performance overall.
Hi, do you think I can get an rtx3090 to work in this unit with a 650w PSU? The 3090 requires 3 8 Pins but I dont see 3 8 pins in this computer.
Anything over 200w is going to be a problem as the PSU is connected to the mother board via a slide in connection and the PCI power connections come off the motherboard as well. It’s not a normal setup and people have had problems with bigger GPU’s plus the 3090 requires 3x 8pins as you said.
@@andystech101 Thank you. I guess its 3060 for me. I live in a 3rd world country interested in local AI. Your Video and comment were extremely helpful and appreciated.
Sorry , I subscribed to see the upgrade video, but I can't find the video You said You will do about upgrading p510, am I blind or is it nonexistant?
Sorry yes it broke shortly after and it’s been sitting in the corner ever since feeling sorry for itself 🤦🏽
Hello, I also have a P510. I want to replace that graphics card, but it doesn't have a power supply. What should I do?
Hi you can buy the PSUs on eBay but I think there quite expensive. If not maybe look for a spares or repair system and pinch the PSU. You can only use the Lenovo psu’s
Age of empires 10/10 game series!
Definitely! I think I’m going to move away from the generic benchmarks and just benchmark what I love from now on 🙏🏼
i got a p520 for 129 from Amazon 6c/12t skylake cpu i believe
Nice little deal there 😎
Did you ever upgrade this? I searched your videos but can't find it.
No it broken unfortunately and I still haven’t got round to fixing it 😅
@@andystech101 Bummer. I picked one up and dropped in a GTX1660 graphics card and a Xeon E5-2695v4 processor. It runs really well. It also has 48GB of RAM, which I might upgrade to 64 at some point, but I'm not fussed.
Did you ever put the 1070 in this?
I did for a while but the system died shortly afterwards! It’s still sitting there in the corner just haven’t got round to it yet 😅
So i have the opportunity to buy a p710 for 300. Do you think i could turn it into a 40tb media server for plex.
I don’t see why not.
@@andystech101 I was worried due to the xeon chip being a bit to power hungry and that I am not sure if it could be replaced with something with quicksync or more efficent.
Upgrading the P510 to an 8 core V4 cpu will improve performance. I got my son a refurb P510 with 64G of ram & using the E5-2667 V4 for audio/music. Ableton has performed flawlessly on that system.
I decided to upgrade the CPU for my production system which is a Lenovo S30. I snagged an E5-2667 V2 for $43 U.S. in excellent condition.
System performance improved dramatically.This is allowing me to further put of building or purchasing a new system until pricing has stabilized.
I’ve been looking the 8core v4’s at the moment I’ve just slapped a 1650 v3 in I had lying around while I wait for some funds to do what I want to do with it. Having trouble with ram compatibility at the moment it doesn’t seem to like anything I put in it ECC or non ECC as I wanted to go 64GB. Corporations do have there uses sometimes and cheap Xeons are one of them 🙏🏼
bueaty is in her eye when you hold her, - Ricky.
It is indeed 💪🏼
Somebody locally in my area is selling this thing for 100rs-1£roughly
Buy it 🤩
Can we here it boot?
It’s sounds like butter melting if that helps 🤩