no he wont, 3080 laptop is the best gpu that he can put in there because newer one have different pinout (but its possible to break out those pads into a x8 conection to a externally mounted one)
You got balls of fucking steel. I've never seen a crazier modding project than this. Mad props to you for successfully getting this done and adding an additional 16gb of vram on an already hard ass project.
I'm an engineer in electronics and we do BGA type reflow soldering with machines. This guy is top 1% of population, amazing to see people re-ball, desolder and reflow a gpu/cpu like that.
If that’s correct . You guys are the second to the top of that 1%. Neuron surgery Doctors and Semiconductor fabrication people are working on things at micron and nano scales daily. They’re hand soldering the wires of 25 microns in size. ( not wire bonding) The Surgery implant very small things, about 45 microns size (1/2 human hair size) electrode needles next to the neurons to record the brain signals. They have done that 20- 30 years before Elon Musk noticed
If there's one thing that is clear to me, it's that knowing a friend who works on a repair shop is an absolute privilege. The right tooling and knowledge makes possible what would otherwise be impossible.
@@aruunmenon I mean yes and no. Maybe used to be, but as people aren't growing money anymore on trees, more sustainable solution is necessary. I mean I am now upgrading to a desktop. Good bye Alienware. If I am buying a laptop, my next money is going to one with an upgradable CPU and a OCLink.
@@millanferende6723you scammed yourself if you bought an alienware, no modern laptop allows replaceable cpu except framework which is twice the cost of any similar preforming laptop
Insane soldering skills and exceptional computer knowledge. Never thought that such a thing was possible, not the soldering part, but the bios and the voltages part.
I'd say the VRAM upgrade alone makes all the sense in the world, especially given how limited Nvidia GPUs are in that regard. I hope we users get more places around the world where skilled people like you do such upgrades for a reasonable fee, so we can fight planned obsolescence without having to throw away useful hardware. Kudos for your fantastic work.
@@Mystogan00 a grand nowadays depends where you live, if you are from a emergent country a grand is alot, and also have taxes, so to get a new one is not always easy.
I know a guy, one of the best in my country, 13 years hands on experience with microelectronics repair and soldering, has done many CPU swaps in his life. He would call this “next level soldering” the sheer amount of skills this dude has is unbelievable, I’m sure he has scrapped many electronics in his past trying to learn this, bust this is just mind blowing, master level of microsoldering. The most impressive thing is he did all this from home with no industrial equipment
Disassembling my stuff for a repaste is still nerve-wracking for me sometimes, then there's this guy literally soldering in a different GPU in his laptop. Looks like straight magic to me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man has commitment and instruments. The amount of tools needed in my country would cost so much is more feasible (and twofold) to basically buy a new laptop
@@OilyMachine naw you and him are overthinking it, I'm not a pro but I've ripped apart laptops, pasted them, modded them, nothing ever went wrong. My old thinkpad I've fully disassembled so many times and it has zero issues I could probably take it apart blind. Just remove the battery, hit the power button to purge excess energy and don't work in an environment where you build up static.
@@escapetherace1943 if you are already ripped apart laptops and disassembled so many times then you are already pro. I know how to assemble PC from scratch but I never interact straightly from motherboard circuits less fix it. And you might have steady hands too if you are already have familiarity with circuits. These are pro skills man
as an electrical and electronics engineer, i'd like to take a moment to appreciate the absolute most PERFECT solder job i've ever seen. this is fucking ballsy and i personally would've never even given a second thought to attempt this. good job bro.
I would love to, but there are no sockets for GPUs! I would love to see some one day, but doubt that's in interest of Nvidia or AMD because of sales and compatibility issues over generations
@@TechModLab actually this makes a lot of sense, Manufactures could make the pcbs brand generation socket able and you could buy a gpu die and stick it on the pcb. they could make the same generation pin compatible, pcbs only power it and could be based on size and memory capacity. Smaller form factor pcbs would run at like 100 watts no matter what gpu die is inserted etc. so for exp you wanted a 4090 in a small mini pc running at 100 watts, would do max settings 1080p no issues etc.
@@TechModLab There were sockets for GPUs, older laptops had them like MXM which would let you literally swap in a new GPU easily. Unfortunately, they made laptop chassis thicker by necessity, and with the tech world's dumb obsession with making everything as slim as possible, it was slowly phased out until even the enthusiast laptop brands known for their customizability were forced to drop the feature.
@@turboimport95 it is possible, but doesn't sounds very practical because at the end, you'll be stuck with whatever VRAM you have onboard. And no, VRAM's cannot come in DIMM form factor as they require being as close to GPU as possible.
BRO COOKED. I hope you make a video about modding bioses, like signing them for manufacturer tools to be flashable, or directly adding hidden menus like CBS and PBS on AMD.
When I replace the thermal paste and pads on my laptop and maybe repair a broken hinge I feel like im one of the better people working on laptops, but this dude is from another dimension.
@@abdrex2139 The Vram must be compatible with internal memory bus circuitry, and recognized by the firmware. It's similar to the fact that different era's of motherboards require very different types of ram, such as DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5. So when replacing memory modules in the way this video shows, one must always be mindful of which memory type a GPU was made with in order to make an appropriate decision.
@@HM-rz8nv because IBM had the forethought to require every device to output ACPI data, there shouldn't be any issues with devices not being recognized by the kernel if drivers exist. I'm not sure why the Nvidia installer would error out from an unrecognized configuration for this specific laptop.
@@eMorphized Standardization is beautiful when its adopted industry-wide. The only limitation is everything has the same benefits and drawbacks of a standardized component, but improvements usually come reasonably enough anyways.
What an excellent video. I especially appreciate the "problems in detail" section. The process as a whole is mesmerizing to watch, but as a person with minimal tools who likes to experiment trying to bring discarded electronics back to life, that section contains priceless information. Moving seamlessly from step to step is so satisfying to watch from a skills showcase perspective, which is what I've come to expect from most tech channels. Including all the errors and troubleshooting after the fact is not only encouraging for people who aspire to that level of skill, but is also a unique perspective into methods of improvement for technique and process a novice wouldn't always consider. Thank you!
I'm just an ordinary guy who like to watch GPU comparison, you know the usual stuff. But how in the hell that youtube algorithms got me here, to this godly skilled soldering technique guy. Mind officially BLOWN!
This reminds me of the Alienware M15X, when the graphics cards were in MXM format and it was easy to upgrade without having to do what you did, almost as easy as on a desktop computer On my M15X, I've upgraded from a GTX 260M to a GTX 970M, a mind-blowing upgrade! Very good work and super interesting video, thank you! 🙏
@DJSurronX Yes really, it's impressive that it's even possible! so impressive that several people who didn't know about this beast of a laptop told me it was impossible 🤣
What a great video! It shows how much experience you've gained through these experiments and how professional you've become by acquiring these pro tools. Congrats, man!
@leovbernardo thanks mate! But my tools are at best graded as cheap beginner tools :D nothing fancy. The rework station cost me 350€ used. It is a LY IR8500. It is modded to perform better, though. However essential is to know your tools + experience. I still lack of some, but it was enough. Still need to work on my reballing skills
Didn't even knew that you could put a socket in a fricking laptop. Awesome! The detailing from taking off the GPU and Putting it back in another was just flawless. Kind of hope that you will offer services like these to us one day. Cheers! 🎊
Can confirm, I still have a 2nd Gen Intel laptop with a socket. It had i7-2630QM initially that I (much later) upgraded to i7-2860QM, which is the best CPU available for my platform. Still serves great as a home server.
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I've been waiting to see something like this for 15 years. Thank you.
Yes! But unfortunately last one of it's kind. However, kind of sucks to have a desktop CPU without low power when idling in a laptop ;) the Zen3 desktop CPUs idle at 30W. Laptop model is "XMG APEX 15 MAX E22", based on the Clevo barebone NH55VR. Discontinued in 2023
When you gonna make am5 It would be quiet a good form factor for a laptop or maybe just a lab thing that am4 socket jobs a big project anyway u should make a vid about using a 16 core am4 cpu
This is easily the best video and content I've watched so far in this series. After so many adventures, I guess this one was inevitable! 😄 I'm truly happy and proud of how far you've come. It’s been a joy to follow along from the very beginning and I imagine the time and effort it took to deliver this gem. Can’t wait to see how the 3080 Ti performs with the 5800X3D, and… how it overclocks! 😄 Glad you’ve got that watercooling setup-just in case. Long live the Apex! 😉
I thought I'm a genius already by repasting my laptop with liquid metal then I went to youtube and this is the first recommended video. good to know that upgrading laptop gpu can be done.
I've always wondered about this, and it bothered me when people just shut down the idea as "impossible", while it definitely makes 0 practical sense, it's just a cool thing to pull off. Good video
this is like repairing EVGA last 4090 video cards from Gamers Nexus Video, but differences you using Mobile GPU. Love seeing Soldering Parts and changing components. The only laptop we can buy with modular expansion is framework laptop. I hope we getting more laptop like frameworks
This is so relaxing to watch while rest of onces day seems like to be running away so thanks for the amazing real life pause you give people just for watching this
The re-balling work is incredible man. I am super impressed. That type of rework is a nightmare, I still cant get it right and been doing it a long time. You sir, have a new subscriber!
not really,they also are difficult because the balls could be not the same size and or solder past when heated can go up instead of soldering in gpu they also could leak and also the stencil will bend so you have to watch for that and also the cleaning is also very important
In indias Delhi, nehru place, they have swapped so many Soldered GPUs CPUs that they do like skilled enough to do such work within 15-20 minutes. Although the work environment is nasty and they get paid in peanuts
Yes absolutely. It's sad they get paid so badly. However I think you can find some dozen people in each country who are able to do that. I am nothing special, just making videos, love DIY and invest time into learning such things. In theory everyone could learn it with dedication and the tools. Tools used are cheap-ish btw, used a modified LY IR8500 for the BGA process. But ofc I know even those beginner tools are not cheap for everyone, everywhere in the world
@@TechModLabDon't sell yourself short. BGA rework is the highest level of soldering. Of course tools make the man, however the skill this takes cannot be ignored.
@@TechModLab where can I learn this sorcery of yours, aside from the usual practicing and earning experience? the stuff about the ground and the voltage thing seems quite too complicated for me, compared to the usual (BGA) soldering and whatnot.
yes, i know many youtubers in india who fix dead gpus including reballing process. one youtuber i can remember is digisonic electronics. he is an independent repair guy and receives 10-20 gpus every day for fixing.
Greetings. Thank you for new video :) Do you consider doing videos about other laptops ? In terms of solving their specially implemented flaws from manufacturer, like weak cooling of VRM,, memory etc. on Asus G18 ?
The firmware on the motherboard would under volt the chip to a point of instability/crashes, or it might not even post due to poorer quality silicon. 9 times out of ten the silicon quality of mid to high end laptop chips are significantly better.
Actually an interesting idea... I mean the core itself should be physically the same. You'd presumably not be able to find a suitable VBIOS though, I believe the non-existent outputs expected by the VBIOS might cause it to just not work.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fphummm. The bios inside the laptop will adjust the gpu speed to And i see a lot of people set lower speed and volt on a desktop to have les heat .
you can't , you will need to manufacture an entirely new motherboard than can fit inside the laptop casing. and then comes the issue to keep the desktop gpu cool.
This is the main reason why GPU is always soldered together with its VRAM. so that it is difficult to upgrade / repair. and consumers have to buy a new laptop again ~ 🤣🤣
Not necessarily... it's just a lot cheaper to make a new laptop rather then doing things different and allowing customization like DeskTop PC has People want more and more slim laptops and this is the sacrifice
@@kajmak64bit76Besides, socketed isn't much better in terms of repairability with 64-bit processors, because trying to slot in more than 128 individual pins without bending any of them seems torturous.
This is on another level! I went to the description and to my dismay I read exactly what I didn't want to read... That 4000 series is different! Was hoping my 4060 could be replaced by a 4080 at least but still your skill is amazing! Awesome video!
I’ve always thought about how possible this would be. I knew it technically was, but wasn’t sure as to what amount of expertise and effort it would require. As someone studying electrical engineering and a hobbyist, this is very impressive to me. I mostly understand everything you’re doing, but at this point in my studies would never attempt anything like this myself lol (at least yet). Thank you, very informative and interesting video.
i be shivering my timbers by clicking my ram and gpu in a pc and this man is doing some black magic that takes enormous amount concentration to the electronical potato chips in that laptop motherboard knowing one little mistake can end it all for the laptop but brother succeeded which makes it more insane. Good stuff bro!
Kudos to you, i was considering do this kind of upgrade but i don't have the nerves of steel and this amount of ability, amazing piece of work you did!
Given the right tools most technicians will be able to do a GPU swap. That being said... it requiers some really special skills to be able to troubleshoot and fix whatever inconvenients may arise. You changing the surrounding chips and having the knowledge to change the resistors is really something else. Kudos to you my man. It wasn't "worth it" but man just being able to say that you did that it's an amazing feeling.
Bravo my man, I have always wanted to try this, as I was the kid when I was 17 finding dell specs to see if they had swappable upgraded GPUs on their motherboards. Scouring EBAY to find some weird supplier who sold GPUs for OEM laptops. When they started soldering them I was pretty annoyed to say the least. Amazing work!
My absolute respect for this upgrade, especially the expansion of the VRam with correct encoding. It is highly risky but I bet it is a good feeling after finishing it and have it working. I hope it will last long and will not die after some higher loads with more heat.
I only do PCB design and never care about BGA soldering as it is always done on the production line on reflow (the process engineers from our production plant deeply hate those) , but man, I admire you for having such skill. Please keep doing such amazing stuff. I wish you good luck and may you become well known in this niche. :)
5:26 in and I can tell this isn’t for your beginner. No break down of what’s what. No how to use the tool properly. Just a how to upgrade. Definitely a channel meant for peeps with the same hobby. Really like this. Refresh. Feels like every channel is tryna hold your hand. Not this one!
Well... yes. BGA soldering is something no beginner should attempt on anything of value. But to break it down it's d😢desoldering, cleaning, flux and recalling, and soldering on the new component and testing
@@niko1even I love that it sounds simple, just 4 or 5 task that break down to smaller task. But then you go back to the video and realize, “this aint a do this and do that project ” 😂 it’s more like a video tryna show you that doom can be ran on a pregnant test. Showing what’s possible with enough skills.
Good improv on getting RAM drivers to install. I've done soldering, but this reballing technique saves a lot of space and time, compared to a soldering iron.
So there is an XMG Neo 17 that has a socket LGA1200 socket and an MXM slot for the GPU. It's pretty much as modern as you can get with a fully-upgraded laptop. I know the struggle with laptops being so locked down; it's at the point where most don't even let you remove the RAM anymore (some even have the storage soldered). It's bas not only for upgradability, but also for repairability and troubleshoooting. Cool video! Reminded me of my own journey I'm currently embarking on.
"not as easy as it might have looked"??????? My guy that shit looks so insanely complicated I can't even begin to spell it. Not to mention the amount of (correct) tools you need for this. Props to you and your skill 👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌
I feel like this video was a huge flex. Also to shut up trolls who say "you can't swap your GPU on a laptop." In all seriousness hella props to you I definately don't have the balls to pull something off like this. Video makes me wonder if you could upgrade the VRAM on desktop video cards as well.
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing. I have soldered for over 25yrs but nothing like this. I have a dozen bad GPU's with bad VRAM on them from the RTX 2060 to the RTX 3080. All were used for mining. I think I will take a stab and trying to repair a few. Because of this video, I am going down the rabbit hole, lol
This video is cool as hell! Would be nice to have another video talking in more detail about GPU vram upgrading as I heard in China for example people upgrade their 3090s to have 48gb vram, now that would be sick!! 😮
I think it is worth for the adventure :) Also thank you for showing the struggles of soldering balls, since some BGA repairmen make it look incredibly easy.
Wahnsinn. Du bist ein Genie. Sowas zu schaffen, ist eine wahre Kunst. Schade, daß die Hersteller die Grafikkarten auflöten, daß man keine anderen Möglichkeiten hat.
This man will keep his laptop for at least 2 decades and it will still run last AAA games at ultra.
no he wont, 3080 laptop is the best gpu that he can put in there because newer one have different pinout (but its possible to break out those pads into a x8 conection to a externally mounted one)
@@xpatrikpvp Not impossible, but an extra portion of hard. It's not like I have never thought about it. ;) It's a x16 connection btw
@@TechModLab is it really a 16x? Laptops were always 8x but i guess because it has the desktop cpu is has more pcie
@@xpatrikpvp yes it is due to the desktop CPU. Zen APUs always had x8 back then and usually a gen slower, so 3.0x8 for example instead of 4.0x16
@@TechModLab what's the pcie version of m.2 slot it would be easier to just use egpu with that m.2 to x16 adapter
All my life soldering. This is magic from a parallel universe.
thanks mate!
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@@TechModLablove this vid
If don't working, became HELL ...
@@TechModLab dont use a heat gun with the balls, oven it.
You got balls of fucking steel. I've never seen a crazier modding project than this. Mad props to you for successfully getting this done and adding an additional 16gb of vram on an already hard ass project.
He surely has balls of leaded tin!
He has the balls of tungsten
Legends said that this guy buys 3 airplane tickets. 1 for him, 2 for his pair of balls
@@jacobgames3412 Tungsticles
Mad, bad and good to know.
I'm an engineer in electronics and we do BGA type reflow soldering with machines. This guy is top 1% of population, amazing to see people re-ball, desolder and reflow a gpu/cpu like that.
If that’s correct . You guys are the second to the top of that 1%.
Neuron surgery Doctors and Semiconductor fabrication people are working on things at micron and nano scales daily.
They’re hand soldering the wires of 25 microns in size. ( not wire bonding)
The Surgery implant very small things, about 45 microns size (1/2 human hair size) electrode needles next to the neurons to record the brain signals. They have done that 20- 30 years before Elon Musk noticed
you haven't meet ben from RESQ. another German living Legend in Micro soldering.
@@90sWork nice callout.. I just subscribed to his channel too- thanks!
1% = 1 in 100. I doubt muchly one in one hundred could do this. I'd guess it would be more like 1 in 100k, or 0.001%
@@BodhiTree-pq6gpno one is manually soldering modern semiconductors and Neurosurgeon do not do soldering, go spread your stupidity elsewhere.
bro, if you had to go to school for this, bravo. You should start a youtube training course on micro soldering. You absolutely nailed this.
If there's one thing that is clear to me, it's that knowing a friend who works on a repair shop is an absolute privilege. The right tooling and knowledge makes possible what would otherwise be impossible.
yes but also very important to live in the first world to get parts
@@sqs.555 nah, aliexpress is your friend
a general repair shop won't do this lol
@@ExcedereInInfinitum good luck with that, all used parts and are usually fucked up you need to buy at least 10 to try
@@KentRoads of course nah, just very few good dedicated people
What a nightmare, no wonder no one does this. This guy is a saint to have this much patience and perseverance.
Honestly, if I prepared the core second time and dropped it from my hand, I would definitely throw it away and go crazy.
This should be STANDARD. Why not just sell replaceable chips that can be swapped out like CPU's? Human beings can be so wasteful...
@@millanferende6723 It most likely is on purpose, more computer sales.
@@aruunmenon I mean yes and no. Maybe used to be, but as people aren't growing money anymore on trees, more sustainable solution is necessary.
I mean I am now upgrading to a desktop. Good bye Alienware.
If I am buying a laptop, my next money is going to one with an upgradable CPU and a OCLink.
@@millanferende6723you scammed yourself if you bought an alienware, no modern laptop allows replaceable cpu except framework which is twice the cost of any similar preforming laptop
Insane soldering skills and exceptional computer knowledge. Never thought that such a thing was possible, not the soldering part, but the bios and the voltages part.
nervewracking skill
I think you have voided your laptop warranty.
Bro has no need for that
nvidia has a warranty from bro lmao
Bro is the warranty
they send warrenty laptops to bro for repair
What you talking about, he is the warranty at this point.
This scratches my "extremely niche areas of education that I will probably never need" itch for the day. Thank you, you're a god at soldering
I'd say the VRAM upgrade alone makes all the sense in the world, especially given how limited Nvidia GPUs are in that regard. I hope we users get more places around the world where skilled people like you do such upgrades for a reasonable fee, so we can fight planned obsolescence without having to throw away useful hardware. Kudos for your fantastic work.
Why when a decent laptop nowadays goes for under a grand.
@@Mystogan00 You have no clue what "under a grand" means for most people around the world.
@@Mystogan00 a grand nowadays depends where you live, if you are from a emergent country a grand is alot, and also have taxes, so to get a new one is not always easy.
100 dollars is a lot where I'm from 😂
@@Mystogan00 only in the us 16gb vram laptops go for under a grand.
I know a guy, one of the best in my country, 13 years hands on experience with microelectronics repair and soldering, has done many CPU swaps in his life. He would call this “next level soldering” the sheer amount of skills this dude has is unbelievable, I’m sure he has scrapped many electronics in his past trying to learn this, bust this is just mind blowing, master level of microsoldering. The most impressive thing is he did all this from home with no industrial equipment
Disassembling my stuff for a repaste is still nerve-wracking for me sometimes, then there's this guy literally soldering in a different GPU in his laptop. Looks like straight magic to me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man has commitment and instruments. The amount of tools needed in my country would cost so much is more feasible (and twofold) to basically buy a new laptop
@@AlexandruLipan Commitment, instruments, knowledge, money.👌
@@AlexandruLipanIkr. It needs professional hands too. I think if I try it, my laptop would shorted because I would miss even one circuit😢
@@OilyMachine naw you and him are overthinking it, I'm not a pro but I've ripped apart laptops, pasted them, modded them, nothing ever went wrong. My old thinkpad I've fully disassembled so many times and it has zero issues I could probably take it apart blind. Just remove the battery, hit the power button to purge excess energy and don't work in an environment where you build up static.
@@escapetherace1943 if you are already ripped apart laptops and disassembled so many times then you are already pro. I know how to assemble PC from scratch but I never interact straightly from motherboard circuits less fix it. And you might have steady hands too if you are already have familiarity with circuits. These are pro skills man
as an electrical and electronics engineer, i'd like to take a moment to appreciate the absolute most PERFECT solder job i've ever seen. this is fucking ballsy and i personally would've never even given a second thought to attempt this. good job bro.
give this man a medal..the music kinda give the right vibe too...watching something that if there was not a video of..I wouldn't belive been told
If gpu was made like cpu, just plug in to socket and lock it will be for everyone to upgrade, but like you do it isn't. That was fun to watch.
I would love to, but there are no sockets for GPUs! I would love to see some one day, but doubt that's in interest of Nvidia or AMD because of sales and compatibility issues over generations
@@TechModLab actually this makes a lot of sense, Manufactures could make the pcbs brand generation socket able and you could buy a gpu die and stick it on the pcb. they could make the same generation pin compatible, pcbs only power it and could be based on size and memory capacity. Smaller form factor pcbs would run at like 100 watts no matter what gpu die is inserted etc. so for exp you wanted a 4090 in a small mini pc running at 100 watts, would do max settings 1080p no issues etc.
@@TechModLab There were sockets for GPUs, older laptops had them like MXM which would let you literally swap in a new GPU easily.
Unfortunately, they made laptop chassis thicker by necessity, and with the tech world's dumb obsession with making everything as slim as possible, it was slowly phased out until even the enthusiast laptop brands known for their customizability were forced to drop the feature.
@@TechModLab
Edit: Sorry, you literally mentioned this at the start of the video.
Framework 16 has a swappable GPU module.
@@turboimport95 it is possible, but doesn't sounds very practical because at the end, you'll be stuck with whatever VRAM you have onboard. And no, VRAM's cannot come in DIMM form factor as they require being as close to GPU as possible.
BRO COOKED. I hope you make a video about modding bioses, like signing them for manufacturer tools to be flashable, or directly adding hidden menus like CBS and PBS on AMD.
you can't control nvidia bios After Maxwell(~900). total encrypted and only overwrite.
not just Vbioses
@@vinegar6676 scewin can control main bios hidden menu settings.
i know someone who is working on a way to mod the BIOS without having to flash it, he's been doing some promising research
@@nindoninshu smokeless?
good call with the RAM, I was here sitting for 6 min complaining to myself about missing on that upgrate potential, and you proved me wrong!
When I replace the thermal paste and pads on my laptop and maybe repair a broken hinge I feel like im one of the better people working on laptops, but this dude is from another dimension.
Is it practical? probably not, but the fact you can just do this is absolutely magic to me, great job on this.
It actually is practical, Way more Vram and better GPU on the go.
@@HM-rz8nv can we just install more vram on any gpu? My braindead cell is just dead to understand this video
@@abdrex2139 The Vram must be compatible with internal memory bus circuitry, and recognized by the firmware.
It's similar to the fact that different era's of motherboards require very different types of ram, such as DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5.
So when replacing memory modules in the way this video shows, one must always be mindful of which memory type a GPU was made with in order to make an appropriate decision.
@@HM-rz8nv because IBM had the forethought to require every device to output ACPI data, there shouldn't be any issues with devices not being recognized by the kernel if drivers exist. I'm not sure why the Nvidia installer would error out from an unrecognized configuration for this specific laptop.
@@eMorphized Standardization is beautiful when its adopted industry-wide. The only limitation is everything has the same benefits and drawbacks of a standardized component, but improvements usually come reasonably enough anyways.
What an excellent video. I especially appreciate the "problems in detail" section. The process as a whole is mesmerizing to watch, but as a person with minimal tools who likes to experiment trying to bring discarded electronics back to life, that section contains priceless information. Moving seamlessly from step to step is so satisfying to watch from a skills showcase perspective, which is what I've come to expect from most tech channels. Including all the errors and troubleshooting after the fact is not only encouraging for people who aspire to that level of skill, but is also a unique perspective into methods of improvement for technique and process a novice wouldn't always consider. Thank you!
I'm just an ordinary guy who like to watch GPU comparison, you know the usual stuff. But how in the hell that youtube algorithms got me here, to this godly skilled soldering technique guy. Mind officially BLOWN!
Insane! In a really good way! Great video, thank you!
This video deserves admiration for the amount of work put on this mod.
0:24 that song is the tech youtuber equivalent of Trance - 009 Sound System Dreamscape
"Wave saver - humbot" is the song, in case someone was wondering
@@MrCubas69 I unironically listen to this on late night car cruises.
@@gasa1165 ur a npc
@@MatthiasRoyal “oh god, noooo” 😨
@@MatthiasRoyal😢😢😥
This reminds me of the Alienware M15X, when the graphics cards were in MXM format and it was easy to upgrade without having to do what you did, almost as easy as on a desktop computer
On my M15X, I've upgraded from a GTX 260M to a GTX 970M, a mind-blowing upgrade!
Very good work and super interesting video, thank you! 🙏
'Easy'.... compared to a desktop laptop gpu upgrades are a NIGHTMARE, dem ribbon cables
@@RonnieMcNutt666 yeah ribbon cables are nightmare 💀 but otherwise it's quite easy with mxm compatible laptops
@@fl0o. I recently replaced a Dell m4700s k2000m to a k2200m and of course it wouldn't acce0t drivers. Geforce now time ig
@DJSurronX Yes really, it's impressive that it's even possible!
so impressive that several people who didn't know about this beast of a laptop told me it was impossible 🤣
@@fl0o. I was told the K2200M was the max upgrade for a m4700, I wish I knew 970m was possible
What a great video! It shows how much experience you've gained through these experiments and how professional you've become by acquiring these pro tools. Congrats, man!
@leovbernardo thanks mate! But my tools are at best graded as cheap beginner tools :D nothing fancy. The rework station cost me 350€ used. It is a LY IR8500. It is modded to perform better, though. However essential is to know your tools + experience. I still lack of some, but it was enough. Still need to work on my reballing skills
Didn't even knew that you could put a socket in a fricking laptop. Awesome!
The detailing from taking off the GPU and Putting it back in another was just flawless.
Kind of hope that you will offer services like these to us one day. Cheers! 🎊
Some laptops come with sockets
in the past , all laptops had sockets, about 10 years ago or a bit more.
Can confirm, I still have a 2nd Gen Intel laptop with a socket. It had i7-2630QM initially that I (much later) upgraded to i7-2860QM, which is the best CPU available for my platform. Still serves great as a home server.
I've been waiting to see something like this for 15 years. Thank you.
Alright a LAPTOP WITH A REMOVABLE AM4 CPU SOCKET?
Yes! But unfortunately last one of it's kind. However, kind of sucks to have a desktop CPU without low power when idling in a laptop ;) the Zen3 desktop CPUs idle at 30W.
Laptop model is "XMG APEX 15 MAX E22", based on the Clevo barebone NH55VR. Discontinued in 2023
@@TechModLab Ah, that is an actual desktop CPU?? I had assumed it was some sort of socketed laptop CPU. I didn't catch what CPU it was.
When you gonna make am5 It would be quiet a good form factor for a laptop or maybe just a lab thing that am4 socket jobs a big project anyway u should make a vid about using a 16 core am4 cpu
@@ngorbaak yup I agree
@@theodoregaus6237 thanks man
I saw the title and thought, “This video is going to be better and more addictive than hard drugs”.
The intro music says it all. Currently I’m right.
Agreed
This is easily the best video and content I've watched so far in this series. After so many adventures, I guess this one was inevitable! 😄
I'm truly happy and proud of how far you've come. It’s been a joy to follow along from the very beginning and I imagine the time and effort it took to deliver this gem.
Can’t wait to see how the 3080 Ti performs with the 5800X3D, and… how it overclocks! 😄 Glad you’ve got that watercooling setup-just in case.
Long live the Apex! 😉
I thought I'm a genius already by repasting my laptop with liquid metal then I went to youtube and this is the first recommended video. good to know that upgrading laptop gpu can be done.
idk why i'm here, i have a presentation tomorrow, but it still fascinates me how we can upgrade soldered GPU using this video. great stuff man
I've always wondered about this, and it bothered me when people just shut down the idea as "impossible", while it definitely makes 0 practical sense, it's just a cool thing to pull off.
Good video
this is like repairing EVGA last 4090 video cards from Gamers Nexus Video, but differences you using Mobile GPU. Love seeing Soldering Parts and changing components. The only laptop we can buy with modular expansion is framework laptop. I hope we getting more laptop like frameworks
pure madness. amazing job. 10000000% Respect. Geiler scheiß, muss das ein geiles gefühl gewesen sein als du Bild Output hattest. Unbeschreiblich.
I've been complaining about my feed being weak an then this popped up which I greatly appreciate 🖤
This is so relaxing to watch while rest of onces day seems like to be running away so thanks for the amazing real life pause you give people just for watching this
I watch your video and still can't believe what you did in it, I guess training and practice really does pay off. Well done!
Incredible! This looks very hard to replicate, but it's amazing that it can be done at all
This man really loves his laptop and refuses to leave it!
The re-balling work is incredible man. I am super impressed. That type of rework is a nightmare, I still cant get it right and been doing it a long time. You sir, have a new subscriber!
This feat alone deserves more than my single subscription.
bro said i bought the whole laptop and am going to modify every bit I want, next level soldering skills tho
Direct heated ball stencil, takes care for most of the reballing problems ;)
I was about to ask about something like that
not really,they also are difficult because the balls could be not the same size and or solder past when heated can go up instead of soldering in gpu they also could leak and also the stencil will bend so you have to watch for that and also the cleaning is also very important
This upgrade looks scary.
This is just some insane next level upgrading approach, very awesome video!
I was gonna say, no way you nailed that BGA soldering first go 😅 Epic job all the same. Thank you for sharing.
In indias Delhi, nehru place, they have swapped so many Soldered GPUs CPUs that they do like skilled enough to do such work within 15-20 minutes.
Although the work environment is nasty and they get paid in peanuts
Yes absolutely. It's sad they get paid so badly. However I think you can find some dozen people in each country who are able to do that. I am nothing special, just making videos, love DIY and invest time into learning such things. In theory everyone could learn it with dedication and the tools. Tools used are cheap-ish btw, used a modified LY IR8500 for the BGA process. But ofc I know even those beginner tools are not cheap for everyone, everywhere in the world
@@TechModLabDon't sell yourself short. BGA rework is the highest level of soldering. Of course tools make the man, however the skill this takes cannot be ignored.
@@TechModLab where can I learn this sorcery of yours, aside from the usual practicing and earning experience? the stuff about the ground and the voltage thing seems quite too complicated for me, compared to the usual (BGA) soldering and whatnot.
yes, i know many youtubers in india who fix dead gpus including reballing process. one youtuber i can remember is digisonic electronics. he is an independent repair guy and receives 10-20 gpus every day for fixing.
When the narrator has a German accent in a tech video you know it's gonna be good.
Greetings.
Thank you for new video :)
Do you consider doing videos about other laptops ? In terms of solving their specially implemented flaws from manufacturer, like weak cooling of VRM,, memory etc. on Asus G18 ?
I would love to, but I can't buy them all :( My money is limited. This is just a hobby. No income from this
@@TechModLab understood. Maybe one of the subscribers would wont to give you laptop for modding.
@@TechModLabhow much would you charge to mod my Helios 300 3070ti to maybe a 3090?
Super. Ich habe schon Probleme einen Micro-USB wiederanzulöten und du tauschst einfach Grafikprozessoren aus. Hut ab.
This music just makes the whole thing even more awesome, great skills
12:04 that drop gave me chills! It also reminded me that you must be super fan of Linus! 😂
This is amazing. I'd love to see what happens when soldering a desktop graphics chip to a laptop board.
The firmware on the motherboard would under volt the chip to a point of instability/crashes, or it might not even post due to poorer quality silicon. 9 times out of ten the silicon quality of mid to high end laptop chips are significantly better.
Actually an interesting idea... I mean the core itself should be physically the same. You'd presumably not be able to find a suitable VBIOS though, I believe the non-existent outputs expected by the VBIOS might cause it to just not work.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fphummm.
The bios inside the laptop will adjust the gpu speed to
And i see a lot of people set lower speed and volt on a desktop to have les heat .
Im pretty sure they arent pin compatible either
you can't , you will need to manufacture an entirely new motherboard than can fit inside the laptop casing. and then comes the issue to keep the desktop gpu cool.
This is the main reason why GPU is always soldered together with its VRAM.
so that it is difficult to upgrade / repair.
and consumers have to buy a new laptop again ~
🤣🤣
Not necessarily... it's just a lot cheaper to make a new laptop rather then doing things different and allowing customization like DeskTop PC has
People want more and more slim laptops and this is the sacrifice
@@kajmak64bit76Besides, socketed isn't much better in terms of repairability with 64-bit processors, because trying to slot in more than 128 individual pins without bending any of them seems torturous.
This is on another level! I went to the description and to my dismay I read exactly what I didn't want to read... That 4000 series is different! Was hoping my 4060 could be replaced by a 4080 at least but still your skill is amazing! Awesome video!
Man, that's insane soldering skill and problem solving. Amazing work.
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I’ve always thought about how possible this would be. I knew it technically was, but wasn’t sure as to what amount of expertise and effort it would require. As someone studying electrical engineering and a hobbyist, this is very impressive to me. I mostly understand everything you’re doing, but at this point in my studies would never attempt anything like this myself lol (at least yet). Thank you, very informative and interesting video.
Absolutely amazing stuff. The idea that BGA chip reballing can be done at home by an "enthusiast" is a true game changer.
i be shivering my timbers by clicking my ram and gpu in a pc and this man is doing some black magic that takes enormous amount concentration to the electronical potato chips in that laptop motherboard knowing one little mistake can end it all for the laptop but brother succeeded which makes it more insane. Good stuff bro!
I’ve been doing BGA reballing for 7-8 year. But I tip my hat to your level of skill!
I cannot fathom the amout of patience in this video...
You did amazing, never even thought you could do this. Thanks for this
Kudos to you, i was considering do this kind of upgrade but i don't have the nerves of steel and this amount of ability, amazing piece of work you did!
That is some immense troubleshooting skills to find that one ball slightly off! Major props!!!
damn very educational video... And you have 11 hundred comments after 12 days in such material that answered all most important questions wow...
Given the right tools most technicians will be able to do a GPU swap. That being said... it requiers some really special skills to be able to troubleshoot and fix whatever inconvenients may arise.
You changing the surrounding chips and having the knowledge to change the resistors is really something else. Kudos to you my man.
It wasn't "worth it" but man just being able to say that you did that it's an amazing feeling.
you did it, I admire your microsurgery skills.
Bravo my man, I have always wanted to try this, as I was the kid when I was 17 finding dell specs to see if they had swappable upgraded GPUs on their motherboards. Scouring EBAY to find some weird supplier who sold GPUs for OEM laptops. When they started soldering them I was pretty annoyed to say the least. Amazing work!
My absolute respect for this upgrade, especially the expansion of the VRam with correct encoding. It is highly risky but I bet it is a good feeling after finishing it and have it working. I hope it will last long and will not die after some higher loads with more heat.
Very impressive, wish this was easier for everyone to do
I’m not going even try to do something like this, but it is so satisfying to watch how it is done! Thank you!
I only do PCB design and never care about BGA soldering as it is always done on the production line on reflow (the process engineers from our production plant deeply hate those) , but man, I admire you for having such skill. Please keep doing such amazing stuff. I wish you good luck and may you become well known in this niche. :)
5:26 in and I can tell this isn’t for your beginner. No break down of what’s what. No how to use the tool properly. Just a how to upgrade. Definitely a channel meant for peeps with the same hobby. Really like this. Refresh. Feels like every channel is tryna hold your hand. Not this one!
Well... yes. BGA soldering is something no beginner should attempt on anything of value. But to break it down it's d😢desoldering, cleaning, flux and recalling, and soldering on the new component and testing
@@niko1even I love that it sounds simple, just 4 or 5 task that break down to smaller task. But then you go back to the video and realize, “this aint a do this and do that project ” 😂 it’s more like a video tryna show you that doom can be ran on a pregnant test. Showing what’s possible with enough skills.
I will never cease to fascinate about how people made these complex electronic parts come together and function 🤯
One person never invented everything in a particular subject. Teamwork over many years, improvement, innovation, etc.
@GreenLeafUponTheSky but that doesn't make it less fascinating
Good improv on getting RAM drivers to install. I've done soldering, but this reballing technique saves a lot of space and time, compared to a soldering iron.
this is way beyond just skillful, absolute work of lost art.
I thougth that would be impossible for swap GPU on laptop but salute this man..Great Technician !
This doesn’t just need skill but also talent. Well done.
Got me at the diagnostic check for missing signal connection and subsequent reflow tap 😂 Good job!
Let's go we needed a goat like you years ago
This is like going from d1 to the NBA. Fantastic work, wow.
So there is an XMG Neo 17 that has a socket LGA1200 socket and an MXM slot for the GPU. It's pretty much as modern as you can get with a fully-upgraded laptop. I know the struggle with laptops being so locked down; it's at the point where most don't even let you remove the RAM anymore (some even have the storage soldered). It's bas not only for upgradability, but also for repairability and troubleshoooting.
Cool video! Reminded me of my own journey I'm currently embarking on.
Amazing mate, "reflow and tap the corner to connect the ball"
Quite staggering amte at the skill... All respect!
hard work never fails buddy
"not as easy as it might have looked"??????? My guy that shit looks so insanely complicated I can't even begin to spell it. Not to mention the amount of (correct) tools you need for this. Props to you and your skill 👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌
I feel like this video was a huge flex. Also to shut up trolls who say "you can't swap your GPU on a laptop."
In all seriousness hella props to you I definately don't have the balls to pull something off like this. Video makes me wonder if you could upgrade the VRAM on desktop video cards as well.
Bravo.Not that I would try this in any time of my life,but I realy like the video,and thank you for trying to teach people something useful.
I'm very impressed. Great video. Keep it up mate!
Exactly what I was looking for amazing video brother
Wow when you have the right tools for the job you can do anything. Amazing work.
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing. I have soldered for over 25yrs but nothing like this. I have a dozen bad GPU's with bad VRAM on them from the RTX 2060 to the RTX 3080. All were used for mining. I think I will take a stab and trying to repair a few. Because of this video, I am going down the rabbit hole, lol
This video is cool as hell!
Would be nice to have another video talking in more detail about GPU vram upgrading as I heard in China for example people upgrade their 3090s to have 48gb vram, now that would be sick!! 😮
I think it is worth for the adventure :)
Also thank you for showing the struggles of soldering balls, since some BGA repairmen make it look incredibly easy.
Pure insanity! Props to you, Sir!
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Great work bro .. u deserve millions of subscribers