Not really. The original framework with 11th gen Intel can be upgraded in its entirety to the latest core ultra or ryzen mobile chips, with upgraded memory, connectivity and storage options. Not quite the same as being able to upgrade within the same series/generation of components.
Used a T440p myself, honestly one of the best laptops I've ever used. Great upgrade capabilities and still such a solid machine in 2024. If you got a 1080p display on it that would be chef's kiss. Congrats on the new laptop!
There's some screen that was original from/for the Razer Blade that works in the T440p and looks pretty nice. It's not too bad to put in other than the plastic clips on the bezel being somewhat prone to breaking. I'd second upgrading the screen if you're gonna use it portably at all. Though personally I mostly use mine docked like a desktop and don't see the nice screen I put in it.
Just so you know, Windows will "use" 2gb of ram at idle (when you have 8gb total), however, the OS doesn't actually need all of that RAM. It just utilizes it since it is there and not currently being used to make certain processes in the OS run faster. Once you started running RAM intensive apps, the amount of RAM the OS uses will be scaled back to the minimum. Windows has RAM management built into it basically.
@@bokexd3173 it's probably just not reporting it as used, I think older versions of windows used to not report it as used All modern OSs do it, unused ram is wasted ram
I'm not a Linux knower by any means, but a while back I put Mint on an old Toshiba that was well past Windows 11's dumb requirements, and it breathed life into the old girl. It surprisingly had a socketed dual core Ivy Bridge from the factory, and a quad core i7 plopped right in with no complaint. Even the original cooling system has no problems with it, probably because it was so chonky to begin with. It was surprisingly easy to install Mint as a first-timer. A+. Would recommend. Also Thinkpads are awesome, I have a 3rd gen T14s with a ryzen chip and it's great.
I am surprised he didn't yet, 1366x768 on what seems to be a matte TN panel is abysmal overall, horrible viewing angles, low resolution, washed out colors and poor contrast.
11:48 same here with my Dell Latitude E5540, if it has a lower-wattage charger, it'll complain in the BIOS as well as setting the "On Demand Clock Modulation" to 33%, which essentially inserts "idle clocks" to artificially tank the CPU performance to a crawl to make the OS unusable while the laptop was charging on the wrong charger. We love to see it!
Same here with my Latitude E7440, altough I have the most powerful charger for it, but if it won't detect the charger properly (as the plug is worn out somewhat), it will complain & not charge despite actually showing a charging indicator
I also have the T440p and when I did the cpu upgrade it complained about the charger and it didn't use it at all. But you could run the laptop on battery and when it's off the battery will recharge. So you can get by it when waiting for your new powerful charger. The guy in the video couldn't update the BIOS because it requires the charger plugged in all the time, even if the battery is full.
i love my t440p and upgraded it immensely fullhd display, 16gb ram, 256gb msata ssd + 1tb hdd also did a cpu upgrade from an i5 to an i7 runs like a charm (installed LMDE6)
Very cool upgrade! Just yesterday i was plannning to get a T440p and uprade it with a Intel i7-4940MX, a 1920x1080 IPS display and a better trackpad, i see yours it great. Also, don't forget to unplug the battery before messing with laptops
Absolute banger of a video full of information, I've been looking for a thinkpad and have been just not been able to choose, but seeing your video has made me fully want to use a t440! great video man!
@@dusannovkovic5286 if you want anything future proof, get used T480. Buying an old laptop seems fun but it doesn't make sense to not be able to use a laptop for 3 years+
I still use my 2012 Macbook Air, dualcore, 4 Gb Ram. At Amazon you will find cheap adaptors for standard sata m2 ssds. While it runs well with KDE and Gnome, with Lxqt or XFCE its really good for light office use.
Balling on a budget! Thinkpads are great. Lenovo in general has kept up the build quality of IBM on their business oriented boxes. I grabbed an m75q tiny gen 2 refurbished with a Lenovo warranty for $250, grabbed 64GB of memory and have a nice little 8c/16t box for proxmox (mostly just alpine Linux but it’s been fun for diving back in to gentoo and having a spot to avoid blowing up my main PC). If I didn’t have MacBook Pro work bought for me (I know I know, but I do iOS dev work as well and with the new processors it’s quick and POSIX compliant.
Hi, Robbie from BobbleTech here. You might have run across my buyer's guide while choosing this (it's in the sub sidebar). The T440p is a great machine with good expansion. That said - the models made after 2018 (T, P, X, W) are such a big jump in processing power - the modularity of the processor doesn't really matter anymore - and they run about the same cost-wise. I really hope Framework fixes some of the QC issues recently covered by LTT - it would be good for Lenovo's Thinkpad division (still run and supported by a lot of the same folks that ran it in the IBM days, afaik) to get some competition!
Funny thing is, I bought a T25 (the 25th anniversary ThinkPad, which is a T470 with a classic 7 row keyboard) from a guy whose partner worked at the ThinkPad laboratory in Japan. He even had exclusive stuff from it, like a decorative TrackPoint (not for the laptop, more like a trophy of sorts).
Just bought a 6 year old x280 for £120. Not quite as upgradeable and small but still a well built and extremely portable machine. ThinkPad are stunning and just look exactly how a laptop should.
Man surprised the macbook still works. There's a transformer next to the charging port that very commonly burns out, then you can't charge it or run it off the charger.
@@mica7191 pre-M1 chips, Macs very easily supported Linux. They used to have Intel CPUs, then starting with the M1 switched to in house designed ARM CPUs. Now there's the Asahi project to get Linux working on them but I don't know how reliable it is
I have two of them, one with the Xeon and RTX5000, and the other one with i7 and p2000. I just took the the 32gb ram from the i7 and installed it on the xeon one and now I’m enjoying 64gb ram, 12threads, 16gb vram and a full size laptop. Best 620 bucks ever spend!
@@cero-of5jj your 32 gb is probably single channel tho, so if you can i would add another 32gb in 2x16. Or get the 32gb out and put 32gb in four sticks, 4 x16gb but the same kit twice. This way you can enjoy faster working, I have 64gb now and I can freely enjoy putting up about 4-6 virtual machines without worrying 😏 If you got money you can also get 128gb in four stick and flex about it 😂. What I could suggest is that that you can add more storage as well, right now I have 3x nvme installed 1x tb and 2x 512. You can have 3drives installed as well. So you can have games installed on one, Virtual Machines on one and boot from another one so you wouldn’t occupy too much lanes on one drive. Also for gaming I suggest you get the latest Nvida App and also updating your drivers, made a huge difference in my gaming experience!
i got a 2011 mbp 13" and upgrading it with 8gb ram and putting arch literally made it like new. Now the only problem is that its been dead for a few months because the charging port died after 12 years of service 💀
I actually have a MacBook Pro 2012 that I intend to put a form on Linux on once I grab an ssd and ram upgrade. Those things were actually upgradable lol
I run Gentoo Linux on all of my Thinkpads (I have a large collection of them given I repair and renovate them) and the T440P is a great machine - as is the X220 as a smaller "netbook-sized" machine. Arch is good but Gentoo allows for much finer customisation and still officially supports 32-bit machines too - it runs extremely well on great Core 2 Duo Thinkpads like the T60 and T61 also. I even have it installed and running on Pentium III based Thinkpads like the T22 and T23. Thinkpads always have great Linux support and, as you shown very well in this video, most of them are easy to upgrade. Just remember that any Thinkpad "X" series machine (X60, X220, etc.) has a soldered-in CPU so you won't be able to swap that out, but you can do most of the other upgrades here.
Ive been using a t440p for a while now. Bought it used, put 16g of ram in it, dual ssd, i7 4702mq, 1080p display and I run linux mint. Its a really good daily laptop thats so solid im not worried about bending it in half in my bag. Battery is passed its best, I get just under 2 hours but a 9 cell will be in my basket soon enough.
That was very informative and very cool to see you do stuff, thank you, it’s the first video of you that I saw. The long blurry screens where very painful for my eyes.
The T440p is so much fun. I bought one with pretty much the worst specs you could have (though somebody at the store forgot to check for everything and I ended up getting a free LTE module which was nice) and upgraded the panel, ram, ssd, other ssd, wlan card, cpu and trackpad (T450 trackpads fit) and now it's just the way I want it.
I’ve always ran Debian based Linux distros. Your statement about LMDE was spot on. It’s always been super reliable. I want to learn how to run arch well. Could you make a video on how to maintain arch or recommend resources that I could read or watch please? How did you learn how to run arch successfully? Congrats on the new ThinkPad build. I love ThinkPads!They’re fantastic!
@@foss_sound hmm can't we replace not just the LCD but also all the upper laptop part? I always bought the minimum Full HD one.. Because I don't want to do LCD replacement but looking at the manual don't they get screw in?
@@lancheloth I have a FullHD display, BUT it is massively ghosting and pretty dark. My complaint for newer Thinkpad (T) models and for the latest models the chiclet-style keyboards. There is a way to replace the display, but the options are just better by a little.
I'm still using my Dell Latitude E6440 which is more or less the Dell equivalent to the T440p. 16gb RAM, 1.6tb SSD, and a BGA to PGA modded 4850HQ from Xianyu and it still handles everything I do 12 years later :)
I have been very impressed with the Thinkpad series of laptops sense I got my T480, it's pretty nice can't swap out the CPU, but everything else you can do with it is pretty dam cool. Plus that NVME life is nice. Have a good one and God Bless.
I have the same laptop, T440p, but with the i5 4300M and the GT 730M. I also added a Kingstone 240 GB SSD and 12 GB of RAM. It was a very good laptop and i used it for the last 3 years, now I have a T14 gen 1.
if your changing out the ssd, you can by an adapter that fits into nvme port on the laptop, then plug the new ssd into that adapter. Been using linux mint for 10 months now.
> casually puts on `hollywood` on his big screen in the background > hakerman But in all honesty good video. I bought a TP X1 (which isn't nearly as hotswappable) but I'm still happy with it. Might try to do a cheap build later on, you inspired me!
absolutely incredible! very satisfying video. subscribed! I have a T460 which I got with HD screen, 8 gb of ram, 1 TB of HD storage and I upgraded to FHD display, 16 gb of ram and 2 TB of SATA SSD. Running arch btw, although I broke my system and decided to install Arcolinux because I didn't really have the time to set up everything on my own again. Cheers
Dude that CPU is going to melt with that single heat pipe lmao. try looking into the dual heat pipe mod i think its definitely worth a try for that cpu. good video
I've checked thermals and it's pretty usable, Max I've hit has been 75c while all cores were pinned compiling, will still look into the dual heatpipe mod though! I have a friend that was talking to me about it
I own a few T440p laptops and they have been great. Cpu upgrade, Max ram, 1080 screen, and 3 ssds is kinda beast under Linux for dirt cheap. I've even gifted a couple to family running mx Linux. Be careful when you buy 9cell batts - lot of sellers claiming big capacity that is actually barely over a brand new 6 cell. Checking the actual vs reported capacity in your batt stats will help confirm.
Oof. Great video. I love my new (to me) ThinkPad. The only thing i dislike is the switching around of the function key and the control key. Other than that, it's amazing!
I got a T14 AMD APU and i'm so goddamn happy with it. 330USD shipped and taxed. It was a refurb but it was still plastic wrapped so I think it was a bulk offload from some firm where it sat on a shelf until some staffer needed it, and they never did. Gotta love the crapshoot.
I hate being the old man who says these beaten to death phrases, but they really don't make laptops like they used to. I love the old T20 keyboards, they were the best.
When I first started my job I picked out an old MacBook Pro 2012 and I loved that thing until it finally gave out on me last year and I swapped for an m2, and I still miss it.
Had fun watching this build Gotta say tho. I've had WAY more issues with Linux Mint than Arch. I tried to move to a Debian based distro and tried Mint. Immediately regretted it. The video drivers were not working properly and I experienced way more issues on Mint than I had when starting to play with Arch. I moved to fedora for my workstation but I still use Arch on my laptop. Never failed me thus far and so far I dont see it giving me any issues
i keep seeing Rider in the background and it makes me happy and enjoy watching these videos. Also, lenovo for life. Linux best on lenovo. Windows slow.
Your channel is amazing. Especially how it can't be found with the search feature. I gotta search the name of a video to find you lol. Also, people who can't use Arch, are people who can't follow instructions.
These old machines are neat as a fun project but aren't really worth it, you're currently at $120 still with the original screen, and for about £150 you can get something like a Thinkpad X380 or Latitude 7400 which are way thinner, lighter, have much better screens, longer battery life, better performance, are quieter, have modern decoders for videos, have modern hardware standards like USB C charging and wifi, and have things like optional touch and pen support. I've seen a couple for £120, and a touch model of the latitude for 160, which can take an optional massive 78wh battery too.
Your old laptop being slow on 1080p TH-cam is likely the AV1 encoding. I believe you can turn off av1 media in Firefox and that should improve the performance.
i REALLY wish a thinkpad, definitely going to be buying one once i finish my main desktop, i really cant live without a computer, when i go in vacations for example its really a pain in the ass to do stuff just from a phone
Honestly as an High School student i prefer my modded x220, but the dual core i5 2520 that i have is way less powerful than the quad core i7 that you have . Even if i could put an i7 mobo in my x220, it would thermal throttle even more 😅 I prefer it over the later gens of thinkpads because of the keyboard and the build quality, and also the overall experience . Mods that i did : - 16gigs of ddr3 - External WiFi antenna - Intel AX210 WiFi card - Internal usb mod for my logitech mouse - 256gig mSATA SSD (I wonder why i can't just use a mini-pcie ssd to boot, though, as it has a way better speed (500 vs. 200mB/s) - USB 3.0 ExpressCard
Bruh the T440p is only one gen newer than your MBP, and it runs hot as shit (I'm posting from one right now that was hitting 90°C+ regularly and thermal throttling and lagging horribly, though having it docked makes temps worse I think), I just redid the thermal paste a couple days ago and it helped a fair bit but it can still hit mid 80s under load, and I have the i7-4710MQ, so I imagine the one you got will run even hotter. I've been looking into upgrading from my T440p. You gotta accept some compromises since this was the last model with socketed CPU and a lot of other nice features. I think the T480 still allowed multiple drives, but that's not newer enough to easily justify an upgrade for me, so I was looking at the T14 gen 1 or 2. They're coming down to the $200-$300 range. We're just recently leaving a dark age of new ThinkPads where a lot of them had partially or fully soldered RAM, but the latest T series models are back to fully upgradable RAM again. So that'll screw up the used market for a few years, but then go back to being okay.
If you cover putting Coreboot on here later, I'm curious if you can find a replacement WLAN card that works with linux-libre. I run Guix System on my T440p and haven't replaced the BIOS/UEFI yet, so I just took out the non-functional WLAN card in the meantime. On my X220 Tablet I had gotten a modded BIOS and Atheros WLAN card that worked with linux-libre, but it looked like it wouldn't be as simple with the T440p, and I have to find a different card to use since the port changed.
Is the cpu fan working? I have a 4810MQ and even when I set my fans to Auto on Arch Linux my T440p speeds up the fans once the cpu hits around 72 and it cools right back down. Albeit I have a fan control program to set the fans to a fixed speed if I want but even then it should never be that hot.
So a few things I would like to add; swap out the CD drive for more storage and upgrade the internal storage and you can have something like 4TB+ in that machine. It is a fucking beast. I may re-purchase one in the future and see just how far I can push it.
i run baremetal Linux on a bunch of old unibody macs. Debian runs great. 17' Macbook Pro and Debian does just fine. Has the matte display have garuda Linux on a 2015 15 inch mac bare metal. Amazing. Just as good basically as a linux VM on my M1 Max and M1 air
Since I got my refurbished T480 to run Ubuntu in it, I barely touched my XPS,. It's just so smooth and easy to use for productivity and efficiency. I guess I am part of the cult now. The only thing I couldn't make work properly so far is the fingerprint scanner. And deactivating the touch screen required some research effort, but was it.
I don't think I could go that old just because I carry my laptop around in a backpack that's already full of tools and cables and stuff and it's heavy enough as it is, but I do love an older Thinkpad. Wish my t490 was that modular.
Maybe an alternative is to replace the 13 in MacBook Pro logic board with a logic board with 16 gb of ram and a dedicated gpa. The track pad on the MacBook Pros are very good and the sound is good as well. Many Thinkpads are excellent as well.
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T440p is the Framework before Framework was a company
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can you fit am4 ryzen desktop motherboard like a a520m inside if you desolder the io ports ?
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FR I bet the they were inspired by it, perhaps subconsciously.
Not really. The original framework with 11th gen Intel can be upgraded in its entirety to the latest core ultra or ryzen mobile chips, with upgraded memory, connectivity and storage options. Not quite the same as being able to upgrade within the same series/generation of components.
Used a T440p myself, honestly one of the best laptops I've ever used. Great upgrade capabilities and still such a solid machine in 2024. If you got a 1080p display on it that would be chef's kiss. Congrats on the new laptop!
Plus 1 on the display upgrade.
There's some screen that was original from/for the Razer Blade that works in the T440p and looks pretty nice. It's not too bad to put in other than the plastic clips on the bezel being somewhat prone to breaking. I'd second upgrading the screen if you're gonna use it portably at all. Though personally I mostly use mine docked like a desktop and don't see the nice screen I put in it.
Just so you know, Windows will "use" 2gb of ram at idle (when you have 8gb total), however, the OS doesn't actually need all of that RAM. It just utilizes it since it is there and not currently being used to make certain processes in the OS run faster. Once you started running RAM intensive apps, the amount of RAM the OS uses will be scaled back to the minimum. Windows has RAM management built into it basically.
arch also does that while still using barely any ram
@@bokexd3173 it's probably just not reporting it as used, I think older versions of windows used to not report it as used
All modern OSs do it, unused ram is wasted ram
That's so not true. Mine uses 4gb whilst I'm running illustrator and illustrator uses about 2gb.
It's a T480
nonsense, just admit windows is spyware
Came for the Thinkpad goodness, stayed for the Windowmaker. I cut my teeth on NeXT machines in college and still love that UI.
I'm not a Linux knower by any means, but a while back I put Mint on an old Toshiba that was well past Windows 11's dumb requirements, and it breathed life into the old girl. It surprisingly had a socketed dual core Ivy Bridge from the factory, and a quad core i7 plopped right in with no complaint. Even the original cooling system has no problems with it, probably because it was so chonky to begin with. It was surprisingly easy to install Mint as a first-timer. A+. Would recommend. Also Thinkpads are awesome, I have a 3rd gen T14s with a ryzen chip and it's great.
Just got a T430 a few months ago. Love the old thinkpads.
Would love to see a display upgrade!
it's so easy
I am surprised he didn't yet, 1366x768 on what seems to be a matte TN panel is abysmal overall, horrible viewing angles, low resolution, washed out colors and poor contrast.
Just got a T480 from 2018 for $130. That's the last great Thinkpad in my opinion
It lasts over 6 hours. I'm in love.
thats a steal! lowest i can find is about 280USD
The T14 line is really great too!
11:48 same here with my Dell Latitude E5540, if it has a lower-wattage charger, it'll complain in the BIOS as well as setting the "On Demand Clock Modulation" to 33%, which essentially inserts "idle clocks" to artificially tank the CPU performance to a crawl to make the OS unusable while the laptop was charging on the wrong charger.
We love to see it!
Same here with my Latitude E7440, altough I have the most powerful charger for it, but if it won't detect the charger properly (as the plug is worn out somewhat), it will complain & not charge despite actually showing a charging indicator
I also have the T440p and when I did the cpu upgrade it complained about the charger and it didn't use it at all. But you could run the laptop on battery and when it's off the battery will recharge. So you can get by it when waiting for your new powerful charger. The guy in the video couldn't update the BIOS because it requires the charger plugged in all the time, even if the battery is full.
i love my t440p and upgraded it immensely
fullhd display, 16gb ram, 256gb msata ssd + 1tb hdd
also did a cpu upgrade from an i5 to an i7
runs like a charm (installed LMDE6)
Very cool upgrade! Just yesterday i was plannning to get a T440p and uprade it with a Intel i7-4940MX, a 1920x1080 IPS display and a better trackpad, i see yours it great. Also, don't forget to unplug the battery before messing with laptops
Especially the internal
It's so cool seeing people tinker with computers like this!
It's more fun doing it yourself! :)
I have the top spec t480s. Fully upgraded. Old thinkpads are where it's at for those in the know.
Absolute banger of a video full of information, I've been looking for a thinkpad and have been just not been able to choose, but seeing your video has made me fully want to use a t440!
great video man!
t440 isnt as upgradable as the t440p if memory serves, not worth getting and i can only recommend the t440p if you are ok with going hazwell.
@@raccoroni. thank you! I am fine going hazwell, I'll look into t440p's! 💜💜
@@dusannovkovic5286 anytime brother :)
@@dusannovkovic5286 if you want anything future proof, get used T480.
Buying an old laptop seems fun but it doesn't make sense to not be able to use a laptop for 3 years+
The Astolfo figurine was a cherry on the cake
Duude i love the music selection you have in all your videos. Great content as always. I get excited when i see you released new videos
I still use my 2012 Macbook Air, dualcore, 4 Gb Ram. At Amazon you will find cheap adaptors for standard sata m2 ssds. While it runs well with KDE and Gnome, with Lxqt or XFCE its really good for light office use.
Love the 2012 MBP. One of the best ever built IMO
Balling on a budget! Thinkpads are great. Lenovo in general has kept up the build quality of IBM on their business oriented boxes. I grabbed an m75q tiny gen 2 refurbished with a Lenovo warranty for $250, grabbed 64GB of memory and have a nice little 8c/16t box for proxmox (mostly just alpine Linux but it’s been fun for diving back in to gentoo and having a spot to avoid blowing up my main PC). If I didn’t have MacBook Pro work bought for me (I know I know, but I do iOS dev work as well and with the new processors it’s quick and POSIX compliant.
That's a bad deal mate
Hi, Robbie from BobbleTech here. You might have run across my buyer's guide while choosing this (it's in the sub sidebar).
The T440p is a great machine with good expansion. That said - the models made after 2018 (T, P, X, W) are such a big jump in processing power - the modularity of the processor doesn't really matter anymore - and they run about the same cost-wise.
I really hope Framework fixes some of the QC issues recently covered by LTT - it would be good for Lenovo's Thinkpad division (still run and supported by a lot of the same folks that ran it in the IBM days, afaik) to get some competition!
Funny thing is, I bought a T25 (the 25th anniversary ThinkPad, which is a T470 with a classic 7 row keyboard) from a guy whose partner worked at the ThinkPad laboratory in Japan. He even had exclusive stuff from it, like a decorative TrackPoint (not for the laptop, more like a trophy of sorts).
The T440p, the ClunkPad?
Just bought a 6 year old x280 for £120. Not quite as upgradeable and small but still a well built and extremely portable machine. ThinkPad are stunning and just look exactly how a laptop should.
As soon as I saw SDR++ I subscribed. Thanks for the awesome video!
Man surprised the macbook still works. There's a transformer next to the charging port that very commonly burns out, then you can't charge it or run it off the charger.
Interesting! Had no clue
Mate, how do Macbooks support Linux???
@@mica7191 pre-M1 chips, Macs very easily supported Linux. They used to have Intel CPUs, then starting with the M1 switched to in house designed ARM CPUs. Now there's the Asahi project to get Linux working on them but I don't know how reliable it is
@@mica7191 they just do, even macbooks with M chips support special version of Linux called Asahi Linux
@@mica7191 asahi linux :) , by a whole lot of time and effort by asahi team
i'd love to know how you setup your arch linux installs, i would love a minimalist desktop like that.
don't use Arch, it's a meme. Come to comfy Debian
Revived a 13 year old laptop with arch and i3wm. I won't recommend it as a daily driver unless you're really committed to it but it's shockingly fast.
I have a P53 I got from my boss for free recently, and man I love the thing. Welcome to the club homie
I have two of them, one with the Xeon and RTX5000, and the other one with i7 and p2000. I just took the the 32gb ram from the i7 and installed it on the xeon one and now I’m enjoying 64gb ram, 12threads, 16gb vram and a full size laptop. Best 620 bucks ever spend!
@ufukpolat4691 mine has an i7 9800 or something HQ.
And an RTX 3000
Also 32 GB of ram and 1tb nvme.
It's great for free lol
@@cero-of5jj your 32 gb is probably single channel tho, so if you can i would add another 32gb in 2x16. Or get the 32gb out and put 32gb in four sticks, 4 x16gb but the same kit twice. This way you can enjoy faster working, I have 64gb now and I can freely enjoy putting up about 4-6 virtual machines without worrying 😏 If you got money you can also get 128gb in four stick and flex about it 😂. What I could suggest is that that you can add more storage as well, right now I have 3x nvme installed 1x tb and 2x 512. You can have 3drives installed as well. So you can have games installed on one, Virtual Machines on one and boot from another one so you wouldn’t occupy too much lanes on one drive. Also for gaming I suggest you get the latest Nvida App and also updating your drivers, made a huge difference in my gaming experience!
i got a 2011 mbp 13" and upgrading it with 8gb ram and putting arch literally made it like new. Now the only problem is that its been dead for a few months because the charging port died after 12 years of service 💀
Man, I got to get my Think pad back. I had one back in 2016 🔥🔥🔥
I actually have a MacBook Pro 2012 that I intend to put a form on Linux on once I grab an ssd and ram upgrade. Those things were actually upgradable lol
I run Gentoo Linux on all of my Thinkpads (I have a large collection of them given I repair and renovate them) and the T440P is a great machine - as is the X220 as a smaller "netbook-sized" machine.
Arch is good but Gentoo allows for much finer customisation and still officially supports 32-bit machines too - it runs extremely well on great Core 2 Duo Thinkpads like the T60 and T61 also. I even have it installed and running on Pentium III based Thinkpads like the T22 and T23.
Thinkpads always have great Linux support and, as you shown very well in this video, most of them are easy to upgrade. Just remember that any Thinkpad "X" series machine (X60, X220, etc.) has a soldered-in CPU so you won't be able to swap that out, but you can do most of the other upgrades here.
Ive been using a t440p for a while now. Bought it used, put 16g of ram in it, dual ssd, i7 4702mq, 1080p display and I run linux mint. Its a really good daily laptop thats so solid im not worried about bending it in half in my bag. Battery is passed its best, I get just under 2 hours but a 9 cell will be in my basket soon enough.
this might be my new channel to binge. keep it up!
That was very informative and very cool to see you do stuff, thank you, it’s the first video of you that I saw. The long blurry screens where very painful for my eyes.
i used this video to test pipewire on my (arch btw) laptop!!
banger video!
I really enjoyed this video! the music and editing! I just got a t440p myself and been on the exact same adventure!
goated as always. Would you do a video on your full setup's sometime? id love to see DE and how you customized them ^_^
The T440p is so much fun. I bought one with pretty much the worst specs you could have (though somebody at the store forgot to check for everything and I ended up getting a free LTE module which was nice) and upgraded the panel, ram, ssd, other ssd, wlan card, cpu and trackpad (T450 trackpads fit) and now it's just the way I want it.
I’ve always ran Debian based Linux distros. Your statement about LMDE was spot on. It’s always been super reliable. I want to learn how to run arch well. Could you make a video on how to maintain arch or recommend resources that I could read or watch please? How did you learn how to run arch successfully? Congrats on the new ThinkPad build. I love ThinkPads!They’re fantastic!
The worst part of old thinkpads is the subpar lcd panel, but this is so cool man!
The latest also very often have this very bad displays. Sucks on my T14g2 so bad.
Buy upgrades gents
@@lancheloth I am hating this glued display shizzle.
@@foss_sound hmm can't we replace not just the LCD but also all the upper laptop part? I always bought the minimum Full HD one.. Because I don't want to do LCD replacement but looking at the manual don't they get screw in?
@@lancheloth I have a FullHD display, BUT it is massively ghosting and pretty dark. My complaint for newer Thinkpad (T) models and for the latest models the chiclet-style keyboards. There is a way to replace the display, but the options are just better by a little.
You are a master of your craft!
That Intel HD 4600 is not to be underestimated
Thing can run basically almost all Esports games and even GTA 5 at decent fps
I'm still using my Dell Latitude E6440 which is more or less the Dell equivalent to the T440p. 16gb RAM, 1.6tb SSD, and a BGA to PGA modded 4850HQ from Xianyu and it still handles everything I do 12 years later :)
I have been very impressed with the Thinkpad series of laptops sense I got my T480, it's pretty nice can't swap out the CPU, but everything else you can do with it is pretty dam cool. Plus that NVME life is nice. Have a good one and God Bless.
Really cool video 👏
HELL YEAH PNY FANCLUB 💪💪 Been using their ssds + flash drivers for years now
would be great to see you showing your arch desktop setup, like what dock apps you're using and all that
Aluminium case is a huge benefit actually. It provides a way better heat dissipation any plastic casing does
I have the same laptop, T440p, but with the i5 4300M and the GT 730M. I also added a Kingstone 240 GB SSD and 12 GB of RAM. It was a very good laptop and i used it for the last 3 years, now I have a T14 gen 1.
i like this style, reminds me of bringus
17:17 now i understand why you blurred your steam library earlier in the video lmao
he's got an astolfo figure, and that's coming form a 02 pfp
if your changing out the ssd, you can by an adapter that fits into nvme port on the laptop, then plug the new ssd into that adapter. Been using linux mint for 10 months now.
> casually puts on `hollywood` on his big screen in the background
> hakerman
But in all honesty good video. I bought a TP X1 (which isn't nearly as hotswappable) but I'm still happy with it. Might try to do a cheap build later on, you inspired me!
absolutely incredible! very satisfying video. subscribed! I have a T460 which I got with HD screen, 8 gb of ram, 1 TB of HD storage and I upgraded to FHD display, 16 gb of ram and 2 TB of SATA SSD.
Running arch btw, although I broke my system and decided to install Arcolinux because I didn't really have the time to set up everything on my own again.
Cheers
Dude that CPU is going to melt with that single heat pipe lmao. try looking into the dual heat pipe mod i think its definitely worth a try for that cpu. good video
I've checked thermals and it's pretty usable, Max I've hit has been 75c while all cores were pinned compiling, will still look into the dual heatpipe mod though! I have a friend that was talking to me about it
@@Ionic1k dope
don't see many nhk wallpapers, sick!
I own a few T440p laptops and they have been great. Cpu upgrade, Max ram, 1080 screen, and 3 ssds is kinda beast under Linux for dirt cheap. I've even gifted a couple to family running mx Linux. Be careful when you buy 9cell batts - lot of sellers claiming big capacity that is actually barely over a brand new 6 cell. Checking the actual vs reported capacity in your batt stats will help confirm.
Oof. Great video. I love my new (to me) ThinkPad. The only thing i dislike is the switching around of the function key and the control key. Other than that, it's amazing!
I got a T14 AMD APU and i'm so goddamn happy with it. 330USD shipped and taxed. It was a refurb but it was still plastic wrapped so I think it was a bulk offload from some firm where it sat on a shelf until some staffer needed it, and they never did. Gotta love the crapshoot.
Bro, this is a fantastic channel but the background music is vertigo inducing !!
I hate being the old man who says these beaten to death phrases, but they really don't make laptops like they used to. I love the old T20 keyboards, they were the best.
When I first started my job I picked out an old MacBook Pro 2012 and I loved that thing until it finally gave out on me last year and I swapped for an m2, and I still miss it.
great video, thank you for posting. hope you keep at it!
YOOOOO those widget/that bar at 6:09 looks awesome. What is that? 👀👀
Would be really fun to do something similar! :)
its from window maker, so a whole window manager
Ah the legendary T440P... I need to buy 1 :D
Had fun watching this build
Gotta say tho. I've had WAY more issues with Linux Mint than Arch. I tried to move to a Debian based distro and tried Mint. Immediately regretted it. The video drivers were not working properly and I experienced way more issues on Mint than I had when starting to play with Arch.
I moved to fedora for my workstation but I still use Arch on my laptop. Never failed me thus far and so far I dont see it giving me any issues
super cool.. I've been thinking about picking one up for the meme, might have to do it now.
I have a T440p myself and it’s super fun to mess around with
i keep seeing Rider in the background and it makes me happy and enjoy watching these videos. Also, lenovo for life. Linux best on lenovo. Windows slow.
love you videos, this one specially (i love thinkpads), love the vaporwave, u listen to shortwave radio?
Sure do! I'm also a licensed ham! Won't say my callsign though because it fully doxxes me lmao
Its not often someone works with a SDR. Subbed!
Your channel is amazing. Especially how it can't be found with the search feature. I gotta search the name of a video to find you lol. Also, people who can't use Arch, are people who can't follow instructions.
These old machines are neat as a fun project but aren't really worth it, you're currently at $120 still with the original screen, and for about £150 you can get something like a Thinkpad X380 or Latitude 7400 which are way thinner, lighter, have much better screens, longer battery life, better performance, are quieter, have modern decoders for videos, have modern hardware standards like USB C charging and wifi, and have things like optional touch and pen support. I've seen a couple for £120, and a touch model of the latitude for 160, which can take an optional massive 78wh battery too.
I went with this because I want a modified BIOS and only haswell thinkpads can be core/librebooted right now.
Your old laptop being slow on 1080p TH-cam is likely the AV1 encoding. I believe you can turn off av1 media in Firefox and that should improve the performance.
Your DE looks beautiful, any info on what you're running with what kind of skins? I'm guessing this is XFCE?
Nope, it's windowmaker!
i REALLY wish a thinkpad, definitely going to be buying one once i finish my main desktop, i really cant live without a computer, when i go in vacations for example its really a pain in the ass to do stuff just from a phone
socketed cpu,, so jealous
nice usage of VECTOR GRAPHICS
got my subscription at 2:15
watched this on my T440s and i love this thing but a upgradeable cpu would be awesome!!
Honestly as an High School student i prefer my modded x220, but the dual core i5 2520 that i have is way less powerful than the quad core i7 that you have .
Even if i could put an i7 mobo in my x220, it would thermal throttle even more 😅
I prefer it over the later gens of thinkpads because of the keyboard and the build quality, and also the overall experience .
Mods that i did :
- 16gigs of ddr3
- External WiFi antenna
- Intel AX210 WiFi card
- Internal usb mod for my logitech mouse
- 256gig mSATA SSD (I wonder why i can't just use a mini-pcie ssd to boot, though, as it has a way better speed (500 vs. 200mB/s)
- USB 3.0 ExpressCard
Bruh the T440p is only one gen newer than your MBP, and it runs hot as shit (I'm posting from one right now that was hitting 90°C+ regularly and thermal throttling and lagging horribly, though having it docked makes temps worse I think), I just redid the thermal paste a couple days ago and it helped a fair bit but it can still hit mid 80s under load, and I have the i7-4710MQ, so I imagine the one you got will run even hotter.
I've been looking into upgrading from my T440p. You gotta accept some compromises since this was the last model with socketed CPU and a lot of other nice features. I think the T480 still allowed multiple drives, but that's not newer enough to easily justify an upgrade for me, so I was looking at the T14 gen 1 or 2. They're coming down to the $200-$300 range. We're just recently leaving a dark age of new ThinkPads where a lot of them had partially or fully soldered RAM, but the latest T series models are back to fully upgradable RAM again. So that'll screw up the used market for a few years, but then go back to being okay.
If you cover putting Coreboot on here later, I'm curious if you can find a replacement WLAN card that works with linux-libre. I run Guix System on my T440p and haven't replaced the BIOS/UEFI yet, so I just took out the non-functional WLAN card in the meantime. On my X220 Tablet I had gotten a modded BIOS and Atheros WLAN card that worked with linux-libre, but it looked like it wouldn't be as simple with the T440p, and I have to find a different card to use since the port changed.
Is the cpu fan working? I have a 4810MQ and even when I set my fans to Auto on Arch Linux my T440p speeds up the fans once the cpu hits around 72 and it cools right back down. Albeit I have a fan control program to set the fans to a fixed speed if I want but even then it should never be that hot.
440p is a dinosaur nowadays tbh
16:52 Darling in the franxx notification sound? You are a man of culture.
WHAT!?!? DOD IS STILL ALIVE!?!?😍🤩
another common Ionic1k W vid
What program r u running in the background? It looks cool
So a few things I would like to add; swap out the CD drive for more storage and upgrade the internal storage and you can have something like 4TB+ in that machine. It is a fucking beast. I may re-purchase one in the future and see just how far I can push it.
thatss sooo coool!
grate video man
good upgrade tbh
i run baremetal Linux on a bunch of old unibody macs. Debian runs great. 17' Macbook Pro and Debian does just fine. Has the matte display
have garuda Linux on a 2015 15 inch mac bare metal. Amazing. Just as good basically as a linux VM on my M1 Max and M1 air
I'm a Panasonic Toughbook guy myself. But I've had ThinkPads in the past as well. They don't make 'em like that anymore for sure.
Disable turboboost to make temps better.
put 1 into /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo
I love my lenovo x1 nano. Moved from a 2012 running arch too :)
Since I got my refurbished T480 to run Ubuntu in it, I barely touched my XPS,. It's just so smooth and easy to use for productivity and efficiency. I guess I am part of the cult now.
The only thing I couldn't make work properly so far is the fingerprint scanner. And deactivating the touch screen required some research effort, but was it.
I don't think I could go that old just because I carry my laptop around in a backpack that's already full of tools and cables and stuff and it's heavy enough as it is, but I do love an older Thinkpad. Wish my t490 was that modular.
I just bought a T440p with a broken screen and two missing keys for 25 bucks, this shit about to be lit 🎉
Maybe an alternative is to replace the 13 in MacBook Pro logic board with a logic board with 16 gb of ram and a dedicated gpa. The track pad on the MacBook Pros are very good and the sound is good as well. Many Thinkpads are excellent as well.
Don't forget unplugging battery pack (and a power adapter of course) before opening a back cover and doing something inside a notebook
Dude, give your MBP a repaste. Does wonders! 🎉
I have a few times before, did not make much of a difference at all.
@Ionic1k That's unfortunate. For me it made a total difference.
That desktop environment kicks ass. What is it?