Got one in a box somewhere, didn't work on my old X79 and never got further than a quick POST test on my newer board. I overpaid, I think it was something like £9 😧
Haha, will make a good keyring in a couple of years! I think there about £5 buy now on eBay at the moment but I just picked up a 2667 v3 for £4 and that’s a 8core Haswell with a 3.6GHz all core boost. Still can’t get my head around the Xeon naming though 🤦🏽
That Time Spy result is just sad. I get close to 11000 points with my 3060, running with a 5600X. Even with a GPU underclock, I still get nearly 10000 points. Part of it is the fact that it is a cheap 3060 but part of it is the fact the Xeon really can't do it justice. The cherry picked game examples in this video don't tell the full story of what gaming on an old Xeon is like in 2024.
I couldn’t agree more! Least then if you sell a cheap flip it’s ready for a better gpu without the customer losing there mind having to replace a whole cpu, mobo and ram combo
I have considered using E5-1650 V3 or V4 CPUs in builds but the problem is I don't trust the cheap motherboards. I'd rather just make a little less on a build than sell something I can't be confident will still be working in a couple of years. A Ryzen 5500 will still outperform one of these old Xeons and they're $100 new. You can buy used AM4 boards all day long for $50 these days. I also don't have to wait two months for parts to arrive from China. All it takes is to have the patience to spend about 3 hours a day on eBay and you'll find the deals.
Personally I am thinking a used Ryzen first gen 1700/1700X and a new B350/450/550 Motherboard is the steal. All of it is DDR4 and can allow you to bump up to a 5800X3d in the future. If one is fine with a used MB then even better. Yes your 1 pound chip is a bargain, but it is using questionable MB's and old tech with no upgrade path. Old AM4 has been around so long. The bargains are there. One can get whole systems for a super bargain. Liked the vid btw and keep up the content!
Completely agree, highlighted in the video or tried too. Yes a 1700/1600AF etc would be better but then your £50/£60 in for an AM4 motherboard £30/£40 for the cpu and £30 for the ram so at least a £100 which is a lot when you’re on a budget. Completely agree AM4 is where it’s at, if you can and I’d always look for a used bargain first but for the £40/£50 mark your looking at Haswell H81 and an i7 4770 etc which this option is miles better. Really X99 is the better bet at the moment if you really are skint or just save up.
These old chips are still actually decent. The only issue is that the X79 and X99 motherboards are still very expensive. The E5-1680v2 CPUs are cheap now. They are 8 cores / 16 threads, IVY-e and they are *UNLOCKED*
Yeah I tested a 2680v2 on this board when I got it. I think it’s similar but the 2 stands for dual capability I believe? Guess the downfall of these Ali board is they don’t tend to overclock but hay ho can’t have it all 🤣
They really aren't great in 2024. The first gen E series CPUs have literally half the single thread score of a Ryzen 5500. Here, the 2689 is severely bottlenecking the 3060 in CS2 and it is because of the CPU single thread score. A 4th gen i7 will definitely perform better in CS2. Starfield isn't a reason to buy an E series Xeon because by the time you pay for the power to run it in the UK, you would have been better off just buying a Ryzen 5500. Also, the high end Xeons turn those cheap X79 MBs into a fire hazard. Unless you go with a V3 or V4, you won't have AVX2 support which means there are already games you can't run and you're not going to be playing too many new releases moving forward. You also won't be able to install Windows 11 on it. You can bypass the check but Microsoft has stopped pushing Windows 11 updates to machines without AVX2 support. I feel like this test was cherry-picked and OP made no attempt to demonstrate what are some very real limitations these days. The fact Starfield is poorly optimized and needs more than 8 threads to run really isn't an argument for these old Xeons because any Zen 3 6 core Ryzen will perform much better. I played Starfield on an overclocked Ryzen 2600 and a 3060 at 1440p with a mix of medium and high settings and got double OP's framerate. That was at launch. I would really recommend that most gamers just skip right over that title. I played it for free and still felt like I got ripped off.
@@zangetsu6638 very few games right now, alan wake and maybe starfield these processors are just fine for folks on a budget, they dont care to plat those 2 games and AAA games to come I play a heavy modded skyrim and emulators... the 2680 v4 is just fine for most gamers
My first build was a Xeon build. X5690 what a CPU, my only complaints about Xeon builds are the boards tend to be huge and the entire system tends to use a metric ton of power. Despite those issues, the performance you get for the price is incredible.
I have a dual x5640 server. Draws about 500W just at idle. I pay like $0.10 per kWh and I still don't use it for anything. Won't play modern games very well. An Orange Pi 5+ is a better server in 2024. Or, if you need full connectivity, a Ryzen 3900X.
Im currently on a e5 2699v3 32gb ram 2133mhz and a 2080ti and i can play anygame on medium high 1440p with 80-140 fps almost all games i can go ultra and get 70 plus on most games love xeons!!
an intel 8 core 16 thread cpu for one dollar man that is a seriously great deal I mean seriously great deal indeed way better then an amd fx 8 core way way better although about the same as a ryzen 8 core but still
@@andystech101 yeah 1 4 you can't go wrong either way at those prices those are excellent price to performance cpu's and great deals for those prices so get em while you can🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As far as I remember this is the first time I watch one of your videos. Good video, well laid out. One of my favorite parts is your voice. I am finding it very easy to follow and never once I had to repeat any segment because I didn't understand something you said. I am not British, so I don't know what exactly accent you have there, but whatever it is, it works for you so well! I have a similar CPU, the i7-5960X on a PC which unfortunately died on me few months ago. I am pretty sure the issue is the motherboard, but as I can't afford to get a new X99 motherboard, I am sticking to my even older i7-4710HQ based laptop. The price difference for the CPU is indeed crazy, I bought my i7 10+ years ago for 1000 euros. I still regret doing so, though mostly for its lack of iGPU and quicksync, which I ended up needing more than I originally thought I would. I don't have money, but I am tempted to give it a go and order a X99 motherboard if I find one with at least two M.2 slots and 4 DIMM slots. If I somehoe have the money of course. I do not recommend it (or similar CPUs) in 2024, newer CPUs are so much better it's insane, but for a budget system if you can find the hardware very cheap, it can work. The RTX 3060 (which is beautiful IMO) feels like a good pairing. Thanks for the video.
Thank you! Really appreciated and welcome to the channel. Something like this might work for you Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! ￡60.79 | MACHINIST MR9A PRO X99 Motherboard Lga 2011-3 supports Xeon E5 V3/V4 series CPU processors DDR4 ECC RAM Memory Nvme M.2 ATX a.aliexpress.com/_EyGjv8x not sure where about’s you are in the world but it has the 2 m.2 slots! Looking to buy something similar to test some X99 chips in the near future 💪🏼
Middle class Midlands accent. Sounds like he lives just down the street from RandomGaminginHD, Guessing in a town or village between Coventry and Birmingham.
I looked this up on Passmark, and it's only got a score of 9684. 50% better than an FX-8350. Holy smokes you were right about 3060's being cheap now... I ran a Xeon in a desktop PC back in the day, you had to put a mylar sticker on the back of the cpu to jump two pins to two other pins. It was precision work placing that sticker right. Eventually the mobo stopped working because the battery died and or the bios got corrupted, and I never could bring it back to life again despite many efforts.
@@andystech101 Yes, believe it or not, it was my first video editing rig, because the free motherboard and case my friend was going to toss into a dumpster... could support more than 4gb... 8gb! Do you want this... sure? First step, max out the CPU and RAM. Now running a Ryzen 7950x / 128gb / 3070 that I built while blind. Inserting RAM sticks and connecting all those edge connectors while blind... fun. I always said I could build a PC with my eyes closed, never thought I would actually.. have to. Try it some times, scramble 4 sticks of RAM up in random orientations, and close your eyes, in a dark room, and try to install them in an old motherboard. You'll be thinking... holy shlt, this is an awful design! Then try plugging in some usb devices in the back with your eyes closed. You know, jamming them into ethernet ports, hdmi ports, and I don't know firewire or whatever... Or DisplayPort into HDMI and vice versa. Or miniture USB connectors into other miniture USB connectors that don't fit, but they don't, but you probably just broke off a tab inside. Just great...
I once build an x5650 PC with an GTX 660 (1.5gb) for around 70€ for a friend. It still runs modern E-Sport Games at around 60fps 1080p low-mid settings, which is amazing for the price c:
I bought a bundle a year ago that has a xeon 2667 v2, which is some reason faster than the 2699 v2. The bundle also came with the motherboard and 64gb of ram. Paired with a gtx 1070, I've never had one problem running all kinds of games and workloads. Buying that was one my best decisions. Oh yeah and the bundle was $68
These Xeons processors have been cheap for a very long time and make great Hackintoshes esp for Xeon systems from Apple that were underpowered, but the compatible boards are less available and the older ones have less modern ports, still if you have a home for one, then its a steal.
Never try doing a Hackintosh! Should give it a go sometime.. tbh I’d still probably be rocking my X58 system if it had the right instruction sets but alas.
Lga 2011-3 Xeon 10c/20t only $6 in Indonesia, however the x99 mainboard is $90, while a gen 6 dell optiplex ready to use is only $50. That is why I still use LGA-1155 Xeon e3 1245v2 with Z77 motherboard for daily use at home.
Yes if you buying a branded board like ASUS etc it doesn’t really make sense. Most boards have had a hard life by now, sometimes you can find a cheap complete working station for cheap but really Ali express is the only option but that has its pitfalls.
I recently switched from X79 Xeon 2697 V2(12c/24t) to X299 7940X(14c/28t) and yeah X299 is faster and better but when it comes to the gaming and especially because I am playing in 4K/60Hz or 1440p/60Hz there is a literally no difference when I was using RX 6700XT my Xeon was also OC via bclk(115 on bus) so it was working 3,45Ghz on all cores and boosting up to the 4Ghz + it have 64Gb of ram and honestly it was still pretty damn capable machine for editing or gaming good multitasking PC I was thinking to sell it because I am not using anymore but I just do not want to sell it for nothing I rather keep it as a test bench machine....
Awesome! It's amazing really, we're told to buy the latest stuff to get the best performance etc. when really all you need is 2697 v2! Not had any experience yet with x299, waiting for some cheap Ali boards! Appreciate the comment.
Pretty great bargain, though i wonder if you could perhaps swing by the recycling facility in the town or a town over & see if you can find any good parts there in the electronics waste container or bins. Did that myself this last week that's pretty modern as we swing by there almost daily at work. With a working Asus B450 plus motherboard, which had a 1x8 gb ram stick from Crucial at 3000 mhz & a AMD ryzen 3 1500x. I just reset the bios to defaults removing the stock clock battery & it started up no problems at all here. So a bios update later too the newest one & a unknown condition but free AMD Ryzen 7 3700x i found there months ago. Which came out of a HP pavillion gaming pc together with the gtx 1660 ti from that same pc and this is better then most of my coworkers computers specs wise.
I’d probably live in them if I could. Unfortunately in the UK we have strict rules and it’s actually illegal to remove something from a waste recycling centre! Plus is rains all the time 😂
@@andystech101 Technically illegal here as well in Sweden, but the guys working there are fine with people grabbing stuff as long as the bigger bosses aren't around that are usually working in an office like a 5 minute drive away from that place. Been good so far since last year though with no complaints from customers calling in & them getting yelled at as they aren't supposed to have people look through stuff lol.
@@Mini-z1994the operatives in the facilities here (UK) are usually pretty harsh on not letting you take e-waste unless you're licenced. Mainly as they are being watched on CCTV...
Here in the US in MA, our recycler would be annoyed if you tried that, they would assume you are going for HDs with personal data on them. We have an open free section store where anyone can take what ever you leave there but electronics is not supposed to be left on the tables, and some people do show up several times a week to pick through the open shed.
Often seen ads on eBay for directly buying from china, but have been put off the the additional unknown customs duty. Was this an issue for you? Currently running a E5-2690v1 on a unbranded Chinese ATX x79 motherboard, purchased from a UK supplier.
Generally anything under £130 you pay tax added at checkout. Anything over and risk paying the 20% ish on import depending on what value they’ve declared ( which could be anything ) up to what you paid. But the bonus is if you want to take the risk and that’s you pay no tax so it’s cheap! 90% of the time you get away with.
I used a dual HP z620 with a dual E5-2690 cpu setup for 7 years. I needed some raw compute power for compiling code on a budget but for gaming you will likely find little difference between a single and dual cpu. Most direct x games are not "NUMA Aware" which means only 1 cpu will be utiliised anyway, although VULKAN games tend to be NUMA Aware so does utilise them both. I would recommend just go for a single CPU for gaming and save money and electricity costs....
I never knew you existed but it’s nice to finally meet you 🤩 I did do a build off challenge last year and I think that was 16core with a 1080 for £150 look through my videos.
A gtx 1080 would be great paired with this can be picked up for 100 odds on eBay only thing to watch for doing this is mb prices can be a bit high on used market but Ali express can be an option
Yes branded boards hold silly prices £100/£150 and they’ve all had a hard life! Even if a cheap Ali board only last a year its cost what £25/£30… mines still going strong 18months on nearly! 1080’s a great card and will have to do a review at some point. Thanks for the comment really appreciated 🙏🏼
I'm not sure AVX2 is supported in this particular CPU, but people beware, certain games like MotoForza 5 will not run at all without AVX2; the developers have made it a requirement, so even if your Xeon is a beefy one with a lot of cores and thread, this very requirement may render it obsolete.
It only has AVX not AVX2. You’ll need X99 for that luxury. Really it’s an entry level platform and there will be the odd title that will have to cut its losses these days. But for a £1 who’s complaining.
@@andystech101 I get it if you're gonna use apps and software that don't require AVX2 like most older games and apps. But if one of your audience takes your advice on building a cheap gaming rig, and they think that 8 core and 16 threads is all you need because it sounds "powerful" for the money and should be able to play the game they built this for, and found out the app required AVX2 and will not run, I would think they would be pissed. It's really worth noting in your video or description. TBH, I really hated this requirement because its microcode baked into CPU architecture moving forward, which like I said makes your old CPUs obsolete. My rule of thumb is that once a hardware that I have no longer is able to run a new software or game I just bought, it's time to upgrade. For the longest time, I had my i7 2600k, as it ran anything, be it lower settings on some of my games, but the moment I bought MotoForza 5 and it won't run and crashes into an error saying missing AVX2, i was pissed because not I have to upgrade to at least i7 4790, so I went with the latest and greatest 9700k. They could have move AVX2 to the video card, but Intel and AMD had to move on from obsolete products.
@@the-ssd-dude I acquired my 9700k 6 years ago. Not this year. It's serviceable now, so I don't have plans until another game requires some new CPU feature from the current crop of CPUS.
It was the issue in Uncharted 4 which only supported AVX2 on release. Then after lots of requests ND made additional AVX exe and it performed nearly the same. TLOU already came with 2 exes on release. Basically it means any developer can make AVX exe for their AVX2 game, it takes minor reingeneering and recompiling with appropriate compiler switches.
As far as I remember the chipset itself doesn't determine the amount of channels as thats something tied to the cpu, the chipset is there for the I/O stuff. Any X79/X99 board only running dual channel is due to the stupidity of the people making it, or cost cutting.
Thanks that’s really handy to know! I assumed the cheaper Ali board which most are dual channel H61/H81 chipsets was due to that and yes other design factors.
🙂 i picked up three high end AM3 full size atx motherboards, its a shame theres no such thing as cheap server chips for the boards, on the cpu support list I only see FX chips as being the best compatible chip, and the cpus aren't cheap, i see them on ebay for around 60 bucks even today, not cool 😒
@@andystech101 🙂 i'll keep an eye out on the ones for bids, see if i can get one cheap enough, i bought the boards just for fun and to tinker, kinda like what you do
Your should run Planetside 2 in testing. They have upgraded the game with new weapons and graphics. It stupid paying thousand of pounds for a gaming rig.
could pair the 2689 with a 5700xt or a 6600/6600m for about 100 to 150 usd, as those are both very strong contenders, and have less drive overhead, meaning you could actually get better fps/performance out of those gpus with it Or, grab a cheap 2666v3, 16/32gb of ddr4 ecc, and a Quiydia e5 A99 (which you can get tpm2.0 modules for for w11) for about 20 bucks more and do the turbo boost unlock with mi899 to get ~3.3ghz all core on 10 cores
I have a e5-2667 v2 and tarkov runs very well on that cpu. I run the game locked to 60 fps because of my monitor. Never seen framedrops. It needs a LOT of ram though. I've caught tarkov using more than 28gb of ram once.
It was an X79 motherboard and about £40 delivered. Unfortunately it was discontinued just after the last video I made with which is linked in the video.
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Got one in a box somewhere, didn't work on my old X79 and never got further than a quick POST test on my newer board. I overpaid, I think it was something like £9 😧
Haha, will make a good keyring in a couple of years! I think there about £5 buy now on eBay at the moment but I just picked up a 2667 v3 for £4 and that’s a 8core Haswell with a 3.6GHz all core boost. Still can’t get my head around the Xeon naming though 🤦🏽
Iceberg tech!
He drops in from mount Olympus from time to time 😁
How will you ever financially recover?
Haha
Xeons are the best bang for the budget
Definitely! Next up the ladder is AM4!!
How much power do they draw? Power is very expensive in the Uk.
It can be seen in the overlay.
Up to 100W
It's not worth it😂
@@NathanOakley1980
That Time Spy result is just sad. I get close to 11000 points with my 3060, running with a 5600X. Even with a GPU underclock, I still get nearly 10000 points. Part of it is the fact that it is a cheap 3060 but part of it is the fact the Xeon really can't do it justice. The cherry picked game examples in this video don't tell the full story of what gaming on an old Xeon is like in 2024.
On this board the cup about 90/100w average gaming which when you look at a new i7 which is near 200w or more with max turbo it’s not too shabby
I have flipped 2 X99 builds and have had zero complaints about either. They are very competent builds for modern E-sports gaming!!
I couldn’t agree more! Least then if you sell a cheap flip it’s ready for a better gpu without the customer losing there mind having to replace a whole cpu, mobo and ram combo
@andystech101 I sold both with RX580 8gb. Got both for real good deals on Ebay. A very underrated card that performs very well.
Agreed as well but i have trouble selling AMD cards over Nvidia which is a shame as i'd rather have a 580 8GB than a 1060 6GB for the same price!
I have considered using E5-1650 V3 or V4 CPUs in builds but the problem is I don't trust the cheap motherboards. I'd rather just make a little less on a build than sell something I can't be confident will still be working in a couple of years. A Ryzen 5500 will still outperform one of these old Xeons and they're $100 new. You can buy used AM4 boards all day long for $50 these days. I also don't have to wait two months for parts to arrive from China. All it takes is to have the patience to spend about 3 hours a day on eBay and you'll find the deals.
@@Lurch-BotDepends on your use. Some stuff works better with Intel vs amd.
Personally I am thinking a used Ryzen first gen 1700/1700X and a new B350/450/550 Motherboard is the steal. All of it is DDR4 and can allow you to bump up to a 5800X3d in the future. If one is fine with a used MB then even better.
Yes your 1 pound chip is a bargain, but it is using questionable MB's and old tech with no upgrade path.
Old AM4 has been around so long. The bargains are there. One can get whole systems for a super bargain.
Liked the vid btw and keep up the content!
Completely agree, highlighted in the video or tried too. Yes a 1700/1600AF etc would be better but then your £50/£60 in for an AM4 motherboard £30/£40 for the cpu and £30 for the ram so at least a £100 which is a lot when you’re on a budget. Completely agree AM4 is where it’s at, if you can and I’d always look for a used bargain first but for the £40/£50 mark your looking at Haswell H81 and an i7 4770 etc which this option is miles better. Really X99 is the better bet at the moment if you really are skint or just save up.
These old chips are still actually decent. The only issue is that the X79 and X99 motherboards are still very expensive. The E5-1680v2 CPUs are cheap now. They are 8 cores / 16 threads, IVY-e and they are *UNLOCKED*
Yeah I tested a 2680v2 on this board when I got it. I think it’s similar but the 2 stands for dual capability I believe? Guess the downfall of these Ali board is they don’t tend to overclock but hay ho can’t have it all 🤣
@@andystech101 Yes, the 2600 series supports dual processors and the 1600 series is single socket only. The 2600 series are also all locked.
They really aren't great in 2024. The first gen E series CPUs have literally half the single thread score of a Ryzen 5500. Here, the 2689 is severely bottlenecking the 3060 in CS2 and it is because of the CPU single thread score. A 4th gen i7 will definitely perform better in CS2.
Starfield isn't a reason to buy an E series Xeon because by the time you pay for the power to run it in the UK, you would have been better off just buying a Ryzen 5500. Also, the high end Xeons turn those cheap X79 MBs into a fire hazard.
Unless you go with a V3 or V4, you won't have AVX2 support which means there are already games you can't run and you're not going to be playing too many new releases moving forward. You also won't be able to install Windows 11 on it. You can bypass the check but Microsoft has stopped pushing Windows 11 updates to machines without AVX2 support.
I feel like this test was cherry-picked and OP made no attempt to demonstrate what are some very real limitations these days. The fact Starfield is poorly optimized and needs more than 8 threads to run really isn't an argument for these old Xeons because any Zen 3 6 core Ryzen will perform much better. I played Starfield on an overclocked Ryzen 2600 and a 3060 at 1440p with a mix of medium and high settings and got double OP's framerate. That was at launch. I would really recommend that most gamers just skip right over that title. I played it for free and still felt like I got ripped off.
@@Lurch-Bot what games won't run without AVX2 ?
@@zangetsu6638
very few games right now,
alan wake and maybe starfield
these processors are just fine for folks on a budget, they dont care to plat those 2 games and AAA games to come
I play a heavy modded skyrim and emulators... the 2680 v4 is just fine for most gamers
My first build was a Xeon build. X5690 what a CPU, my only complaints about Xeon builds are the boards tend to be huge and the entire system tends to use a metric ton of power. Despite those issues, the performance you get for the price is incredible.
Loved X58 and I’ve still got my old Intel branded board! Yes agreed but the new i7 14700k will pull 240w on max turbo 😅
I have a dual x5640 server. Draws about 500W just at idle. I pay like $0.10 per kWh and I still don't use it for anything. Won't play modern games very well. An Orange Pi 5+ is a better server in 2024. Or, if you need full connectivity, a Ryzen 3900X.
Im currently on a e5 2699v3 32gb ram 2133mhz and a 2080ti and i can play anygame on medium high 1440p with 80-140 fps almost all games i can go ultra and get 70 plus on most games love xeons!!
an intel 8 core 16 thread cpu for one dollar man that is a seriously great deal I mean seriously great deal indeed way better then an amd fx 8 core way way better although about the same as a ryzen 8 core but still
Awesome stuff 😎
Yes you can’t really go wrong, there about £4 buy now on eBay but still that’s a lot of cpu for the money all things taken into consideration.
@@andystech101 yeah 1 4 you can't go wrong either way at those prices those are excellent price to performance cpu's and great deals for those prices so get em while you can🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@andystech101 yeah but would you rather have to much cpu or not enough personally I rather have to much then not enough everyday of the week
As far as I remember this is the first time I watch one of your videos.
Good video, well laid out. One of my favorite parts is your voice. I am finding it very easy to follow and never once I had to repeat any segment because I didn't understand something you said. I am not British, so I don't know what exactly accent you have there, but whatever it is, it works for you so well!
I have a similar CPU, the i7-5960X on a PC which unfortunately died on me few months ago. I am pretty sure the issue is the motherboard, but as I can't afford to get a new X99 motherboard, I am sticking to my even older i7-4710HQ based laptop.
The price difference for the CPU is indeed crazy, I bought my i7 10+ years ago for 1000 euros. I still regret doing so, though mostly for its lack of iGPU and quicksync, which I ended up needing more than I originally thought I would.
I don't have money, but I am tempted to give it a go and order a X99 motherboard if I find one with at least two M.2 slots and 4 DIMM slots. If I somehoe have the money of course.
I do not recommend it (or similar CPUs) in 2024, newer CPUs are so much better it's insane, but for a budget system if you can find the hardware very cheap, it can work. The RTX 3060 (which is beautiful IMO) feels like a good pairing.
Thanks for the video.
Thank you! Really appreciated and welcome to the channel. Something like this might work for you Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! ￡60.79 | MACHINIST MR9A PRO X99 Motherboard Lga 2011-3 supports Xeon E5 V3/V4 series CPU processors DDR4 ECC RAM Memory Nvme M.2 ATX
a.aliexpress.com/_EyGjv8x not sure where about’s you are in the world but it has the 2 m.2 slots! Looking to buy something similar to test some X99 chips in the near future 💪🏼
Middle class Midlands accent. Sounds like he lives just down the street from RandomGaminginHD, Guessing in a town or village between Coventry and Birmingham.
Andy has a core addiction 😅. It might be contagious 😂.
Haha 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I looked this up on Passmark, and it's only got a score of 9684. 50% better than an FX-8350.
Holy smokes you were right about 3060's being cheap now...
I ran a Xeon in a desktop PC back in the day, you had to put a mylar sticker on the back of the cpu to jump two pins to two other pins. It was precision work placing that sticker right. Eventually the mobo stopped working because the battery died and or the bios got corrupted, and I never could bring it back to life again despite many efforts.
Yes the old LGA771 to 775 Xeon mod! Those were the good old days! That passmark score makes sense as it’s basically two i7 2600s slapped together 😁
@@andystech101 Yes, believe it or not, it was my first video editing rig, because the free motherboard and case my friend was going to toss into a dumpster... could support more than 4gb... 8gb! Do you want this... sure? First step, max out the CPU and RAM.
Now running a Ryzen 7950x / 128gb / 3070 that I built while blind. Inserting RAM sticks and connecting all those edge connectors while blind... fun. I always said I could build a PC with my eyes closed, never thought I would actually.. have to.
Try it some times, scramble 4 sticks of RAM up in random orientations, and close your eyes, in a dark room, and try to install them in an old motherboard. You'll be thinking... holy shlt, this is an awful design! Then try plugging in some usb devices in the back with your eyes closed. You know, jamming them into ethernet ports, hdmi ports, and I don't know firewire or whatever...
Or DisplayPort into HDMI and vice versa. Or miniture USB connectors into other miniture USB connectors that don't fit, but they don't, but you probably just broke off a tab inside. Just great...
I once build an x5650 PC with an GTX 660 (1.5gb) for around 70€ for a friend.
It still runs modern E-Sport Games at around 60fps 1080p low-mid settings, which is amazing for the price c:
Would have been a nice little budget build back then 😎
I bought a bundle a year ago that has a xeon 2667 v2, which is some reason faster than the 2699 v2. The bundle also came with the motherboard and 64gb of ram. Paired with a gtx 1070, I've never had one problem running all kinds of games and workloads. Buying that was one my best decisions.
Oh yeah and the bundle was $68
Best $68 you ever spent there 💪🏼
I’m rocking those old ass LGA 1365 Xeon x5690. Those are still really really fast man
Love X58! Still got my old Intel branded board lying around somewhere
These Xeons processors have been cheap for a very long time and make great Hackintoshes esp for Xeon systems from Apple that were underpowered, but the compatible boards are less available and the older ones have less modern ports, still if you have a home for one, then its a steal.
Never try doing a Hackintosh! Should give it a go sometime.. tbh I’d still probably be rocking my X58 system if it had the right instruction sets but alas.
Lga 2011-3 Xeon 10c/20t only $6 in Indonesia, however the x99 mainboard is $90, while a gen 6 dell optiplex ready to use is only $50. That is why I still use LGA-1155 Xeon e3 1245v2 with Z77 motherboard for daily use at home.
Yes if you buying a branded board like ASUS etc it doesn’t really make sense. Most boards have had a hard life by now, sometimes you can find a cheap complete working station for cheap but really Ali express is the only option but that has its pitfalls.
I recently switched from X79 Xeon 2697 V2(12c/24t) to X299 7940X(14c/28t) and yeah X299 is faster and better but when it comes to the gaming and especially because I am playing in 4K/60Hz or 1440p/60Hz there is a literally no difference when I was using RX 6700XT my Xeon was also OC via bclk(115 on bus) so it was working 3,45Ghz on all cores and boosting up to the 4Ghz + it have 64Gb of ram and honestly it was still pretty damn capable machine for editing or gaming good multitasking PC I was thinking to sell it because I am not using anymore but I just do not want to sell it for nothing I rather keep it as a test bench machine....
Awesome! It's amazing really, we're told to buy the latest stuff to get the best performance etc. when really all you need is 2697 v2! Not had any experience yet with x299, waiting for some cheap Ali boards! Appreciate the comment.
Pretty great bargain, though i wonder if you could perhaps swing by the recycling facility in the town or a town over & see if you can find any good parts there in the electronics waste container or bins.
Did that myself this last week that's pretty modern as we swing by there almost daily at work.
With a working Asus B450 plus motherboard, which had a 1x8 gb ram stick from Crucial at 3000 mhz & a AMD ryzen 3 1500x.
I just reset the bios to defaults removing the stock clock battery & it started up no problems at all here.
So a bios update later too the newest one & a unknown condition but free AMD Ryzen 7 3700x i found there months ago.
Which came out of a HP pavillion gaming pc together with the gtx 1660 ti from that same pc and this is better then most of my coworkers computers specs wise.
I’d probably live in them if I could. Unfortunately in the UK we have strict rules and it’s actually illegal to remove something from a waste recycling centre! Plus is rains all the time 😂
@@andystech101 Technically illegal here as well in Sweden, but the guys working there are fine with people grabbing stuff as long as the bigger bosses aren't around that are usually working in an office like a 5 minute drive away from that place.
Been good so far since last year though with no complaints from customers calling in & them getting yelled at as they aren't supposed to have people look through stuff lol.
@@Mini-z1994the operatives in the facilities here (UK) are usually pretty harsh on not letting you take e-waste unless you're licenced. Mainly as they are being watched on CCTV...
Here in the US in MA, our recycler would be annoyed if you tried that, they would assume you are going for HDs with personal data on them. We have an open free section store where anyone can take what ever you leave there but electronics is not supposed to be left on the tables, and some people do show up several times a week to pick through the open shed.
Often seen ads on eBay for directly buying from china, but have been put off the the additional unknown customs duty. Was this an issue for you? Currently running a E5-2690v1 on a unbranded Chinese ATX x79 motherboard, purchased from a UK supplier.
Generally anything under £130 you pay tax added at checkout. Anything over and risk paying the 20% ish on import depending on what value they’ve declared ( which could be anything ) up to what you paid. But the bonus is if you want to take the risk and that’s you pay no tax so it’s cheap! 90% of the time you get away with.
i had one for 2 years and it worked perfect
Love it 😎
I wonder how good a dual cpu system would be for gaming.
I did do an X79 dual server board build last year with a 1080 and it did ok tbh!
I used a dual HP z620 with a dual E5-2690 cpu setup for 7 years. I needed some raw compute power for compiling code on a budget but for gaming you will likely find little difference between a single and dual cpu. Most direct x games are not "NUMA Aware" which means only 1 cpu will be utiliised anyway, although VULKAN games tend to be NUMA Aware so does utilise them both. I would recommend just go for a single CPU for gaming and save money and electricity costs....
😒👍 Stock Up and Double Down on X58 X79 X99 X299 preferably we want EVGA boards 🐢🐢🐢🐢 for CPUs checkout 6/12 and 8/16
Haha when EVGA made motherboards 💪🏼
@@andystech101 😒👍 FTW / DARK / KING PIN
@@andystech101 😒👍 STINGER / CLASSIFIED
Would love a video on a budget 16 core or more setup, if such a thing exists?
I never knew you existed but it’s nice to finally meet you 🤩 I did do a build off challenge last year and I think that was 16core with a 1080 for £150 look through my videos.
@@andystech101 dont make me tell my dad on you :) will have a look ty
A gtx 1080 would be great paired with this can be picked up for 100 odds on eBay only thing to watch for doing this is mb prices can be a bit high on used market but Ali express can be an option
Yes branded boards hold silly prices £100/£150 and they’ve all had a hard life! Even if a cheap Ali board only last a year its cost what £25/£30… mines still going strong 18months on nearly! 1080’s a great card and will have to do a review at some point. Thanks for the comment really appreciated 🙏🏼
I'm not sure AVX2 is supported in this particular CPU, but people beware, certain games like MotoForza 5 will not run at all without AVX2; the developers have made it a requirement, so even if your Xeon is a beefy one with a lot of cores and thread, this very requirement may render it obsolete.
It only has AVX not AVX2. You’ll need X99 for that luxury. Really it’s an entry level platform and there will be the odd title that will have to cut its losses these days. But for a £1 who’s complaining.
@@andystech101 I get it if you're gonna use apps and software that don't require AVX2 like most older games and apps. But if one of your audience takes your advice on building a cheap gaming rig, and they think that 8 core and 16 threads is all you need because it sounds "powerful" for the money and should be able to play the game they built this for, and found out the app required AVX2 and will not run, I would think they would be pissed. It's really worth noting in your video or description. TBH, I really hated this requirement because its microcode baked into CPU architecture moving forward, which like I said makes your old CPUs obsolete. My rule of thumb is that once a hardware that I have no longer is able to run a new software or game I just bought, it's time to upgrade. For the longest time, I had my i7 2600k, as it ran anything, be it lower settings on some of my games, but the moment I bought MotoForza 5 and it won't run and crashes into an error saying missing AVX2, i was pissed because not I have to upgrade to at least i7 4790, so I went with the latest and greatest 9700k. They could have move AVX2 to the video card, but Intel and AMD had to move on from obsolete products.
@@gdjaybee742 interesting take on a 6 year old CPU (9700K) being the latest and greatest. sounds like a major upgrade though. congrats!
@@the-ssd-dude I acquired my 9700k 6 years ago. Not this year. It's serviceable now, so I don't have plans until another game requires some new CPU feature from the current crop of CPUS.
It was the issue in Uncharted 4 which only supported AVX2 on release. Then after lots of requests ND made additional AVX exe and it performed nearly the same. TLOU already came with 2 exes on release. Basically it means any developer can make AVX exe for their AVX2 game, it takes minor reingeneering and recompiling with appropriate compiler switches.
As far as I remember the chipset itself doesn't determine the amount of channels as thats something tied to the cpu, the chipset is there for the I/O stuff. Any X79/X99 board only running dual channel is due to the stupidity of the people making it, or cost cutting.
Thanks that’s really handy to know! I assumed the cheaper Ali board which most are dual channel H61/H81 chipsets was due to that and yes other design factors.
🙂 i picked up three high end AM3 full size atx motherboards, its a shame theres no such thing as cheap server chips for the boards, on the cpu support list I only see FX chips as being the best compatible chip, and the cpus aren't cheap, i see them on ebay for around 60 bucks even today, not cool 😒
Some FX chips still hold a crazy value tbh! Considering there naff! Still ok at the right price and there fun to overclock 🤩
@@andystech101 🙂 i'll keep an eye out on the ones for bids, see if i can get one cheap enough, i bought the boards just for fun and to tinker, kinda like what you do
Your should run Planetside 2 in testing. They have upgraded the game with new weapons and graphics. It stupid paying thousand of pounds for a gaming rig.
Not a game I’ve tired I’ll give it a look, cheers for the shout 💪🏼
could pair the 2689 with a 5700xt or a 6600/6600m for about 100 to 150 usd, as those are both very strong contenders, and have less drive overhead, meaning you could actually get better fps/performance out of those gpus with it
Or, grab a cheap 2666v3, 16/32gb of ddr4 ecc, and a Quiydia e5 A99 (which you can get tpm2.0 modules for for w11) for about 20 bucks more and do the turbo boost unlock with mi899 to get ~3.3ghz all core on 10 cores
I like your thinking! Have you ever considered being a TH-camr 😎💪🏼
@@andystech101 Dont have the time, unfortunately. Day job gets in the way.
You should've tried cpu intensive games like tarkov
Completely forgot about Tarkov! TLOU and Starfield are pretty brutal though!
I have a e5-2667 v2 and tarkov runs very well on that cpu. I run the game locked to 60 fps because of my monitor. Never seen framedrops. It needs a LOT of ram though. I've caught tarkov using more than 28gb of ram once.
Try a E5-2667v2 next! 8-cores with a 4.00ghz boost and 25MB of cache vs the 2689's 20MB
I’ll keep an eye out for that! I’ve got a 2680 v2 and I just brought a 2667 v3 but that’s an X99 chip! 4GHz boost sounds 🤤
As an owner is said chip, it will boost to 3.6GHz across all 8 cores all day long at 57c when running standard clocks
@@DoktorLorenz Mine boosts to 3.9 at 45c
Kids these days don't know the joy of having a 1 core CPU and overclocking it to absurd frequencies
Haha yes that was the good old days! 486 was my first system and that’s a long long time ago 😅
Ali Express - which vendor did you buy from please as I hear there are a lot of dodgy sellers on there. Thanks.
BIT Gold Store
a.aliexpress.com/_EymMqE3
Not into click bait , and this is , how much was the x99 motherboard you plumb, and shipping is a cost
It was an X79 motherboard and about £40 delivered. Unfortunately it was discontinued just after the last video I made with which is linked in the video.
he literally shows the cost in the video. the CPU is $3 delivered, and the motherboard and ram was an additional 25$.
My Xeon E5-2696V3 turbo unlocked with quad channel paid €44 kicks the ass to Ryzen 5800x3d . Maximum TDP 175W🤓☠
I am pretty sure, it doesn’t, as long as it is not cherry picked benchmarks or apps/ games.
It would put up a good fight and maybe a Ryzen 3600/5600. 5800x3D is a beast of a chip 😅
i used to pair a rx 6600 with xeon e5-2650v2
One of my favourite cards the RX6600 😎
How was 100 FPS not competitive
I get in trouble if it’s not 120fps to match a high refresh monitor 🤣 but yes I’d consider it competitive
@@andystech101 I understand there's hardcore people out there huh
@daltonmeredith6790 I’d say 30 is passable, 60 is playable and 120+ is competitive? But if your a bad arse then 30 is competitive I guess 💪🏼
@@andystech101to be honest I still look for 1080P at between 40 and 60 at highest possible settings. That’s how I like to game
3060!? Likely of a CPU bottleneck no? Those cards bottleneck even with first gen Ryzen.
Agreed, it was more of a real world test. What would a sensible pairing be given the market in 2024. RTX3060 12GB takes the ticket 🤩