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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2024
- Priced similarly to the last gen VA WRX STi, but lacking upgraded power and differentials, can the "tuner ready" WRX TR really justify a $9K premium over a base VB WRX?
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Historically, the STi variant has been priced 7-10K more than the WRX from what I can remember. Offering a NON-STi with STi pricing is almost as stupid as locking the higher trim variant (with the better seats) behind a CVT. I have no idea what these manufacturers are thinking. It's like there's some kind of disconnect internally between all the divisions of some of these companies and they are having to bring products to market while communicating using smoke signals that no one fully understands.
Are you not aware of inflation? 😮💨
Thing is people still want manuals. @drjk7565
Unfortunately everything is expensive nowadays. Honda/Acura have a FWD only car for $45-42k, a mustang Ecoboost can be optioned up to $50k, the dark horse is $70k, a 392 Wrangler is $100k.
Its wild the TR is just a one year only model and being replaced by the tS in 2025.
Also crazy that Subaru refuses to put good diffs in these or get rid of the hated body cladding...
or put some effort into the transmission. its awful
I think the base WRX is a decent value for something AWD, manual and fun. Dealerships by me are selling base and premium trims for $3-4k off sticker but the TRs have dealer mark up. I think it would be a pretty easy decision for me financially if I wanted one.
You can get TR discounted $3k off too just checked autotrader
i live in NE, and there can't get ride of them and knocking the MSRP off around $3k off...
TR for this year wrx doesn't mean "tuner ready" like it did in the past ...it means "track ready"
When I saw your title, I thought "well the base was 29,xxx when it came out in 2022, so this is about 37k? Crazy. When you said it was $42,000, I LITERALLY exclaimed, "What. The. Fuk.?!??!?!?!" Like three grand off a Type R?S?!?@??@?@?@?!?!?@? 🤣
same price of a gr corolla
Base is close to $33k now after destination. There are dealers you selling them for under MSRP
Fun fact, WRX ts was announced a couple weeks ago.
Not many get the concept that form follows function. Subaru has done good here.. I own a copy.
Fast drivers don't need more power, they need bigger brakes, stiffer springs, stickier tires, better driver aids, thank you Subaru!
I bought a base, put AWE exhaust on and different wheels/tires. Probably have $34000 in it. Hard to beat for a fun daily driver with AWD! Plenty quick for me and handles just fine. 👍
Great review. I've grown to like the VB WRX and the TR seems cool, but for $9k more I don't think it's worth it especially if you plan to modify it. That extra $9k on a base WRX can take you farther than what's being offered with the TR. Also, the 6k rev limiter was weird. I wonder if it's a setting.
The VB WRX is a legitimately great car and it pains me we'll never get a STi variant. The new chassis clearly has potential but Subaru doesn't seem interested in realizing it.
Probably because all the fans old enough to afford one new these days don’t want to deal with the reliability issues anymore.
Instead Japan getting a S210 STI next year in limited production with modified non production engine and STI drive train all done up but not coming to US as of now
my question is- how much would it actually cost you to buy better brakes, upgrade the suspension yourself, and get a new driver seat? 10 grand? i doubt it… and if you can genuinely find base WRXs for under msrp and these are going for over? no way i’d buy one. the only thing i really see going for it is the fact that it’s AWD. i can’t really think of another AWD let alone manual track ready car at that price point.
Comparing this to a base model is unfair. It has the turning headlights, upgraded stereo, and the nice interior. The TR is wrx premium with all the extra "race" features. The reality is you cannot build this car for the price that it is.
Now it would be nice if the extra stuff was just a performance package that you could add to something like the base to get the price down a little, but that's not the case.
The VB owners that have swapped in an STI transmission and differentials are seeing an enormous hit to MPG. Like, >20% worse mileage. That’s why Subaru isn’t making a real STI anymore.
Come to think of it, does any new car have full time AWD with 3 LSDs?
$ value manufacturing cost for said LSD's efficiency losses from needless mechanical complexity, servicing costs from clutch wear in said LSD's. And when is a good reason to do do 4wd burnouts, unless you in WRC with a major sponsorship?
IMO the "track ready" version would have the center console delete standard for weight saving, and less MSRP to begin with.
TR should stand for Track Ready
Now when do they start selling that brembo kit for vb chassis 😍
Does this boxer engine blow up on track like the last 2.0L?
Not knocking old one, but engine wasn’t very track reliable.
No the FA24F is extremely reliable it's nothing like the FA20. It's good for up to 400 hp with zero issues
It pains me when people do these reviews and all have the same things to say. As if they just stole talking points from every other video and regurgitated them. TR does not mean tuner ready, it means track ready, which the car obviously delivers. Distinguishing between the two would correct your perspective on the car. There is no more STi, get over it. Watch MotoIQs tear down of the FA24 and you’ll see how much of a better motor it is than the EJs and you’ll see that Subaru intentionally left plenty on the table for this car. Getting it to redline 500 past the manufacture redline RPM is very easily doable and safe. Yeah it doesn’t have STi drivetrain, but tell me where would you have needed it on this track? Seems like the car did everything you wanted it to do straight from factory. Terrible review. Great driving.
I'll stick with my STI.
what car isnt overpriced? everything should be 2/3 of what it costs
Getting a lower trim and spending the 9k on your own mods makes so much more sense imo
I'm debating base WRX or GR supra manual which is double the price but looks better and is faster
I owned a Subaru for a short while, nothing but problems, oil leaks, stalling at idle, electric problems. Supra being BMW might not be much better. Honda Type R or Hyundai Elantra N is probably the way to go.
@theaviator06 i have the opposite experience of yours lol. No issues with mine
@@theaviator06 elantra N even worse with problems ...... new VB WRX base is the way to go
It’s a shame Subaru doesn’t want to invest in the STi brand, and won’t really invest too much in their engines.
I’ll have to drive one.
Eh. Im keeping hold of my 18 STI. Subaru is completely disconnected from the car enthusiasts.
The tS is coming out in 2025, according to the Car Line Planning Manager at Subaru of America, the 2024 TR stands for Track Ready, th-cam.com/video/mKb0kUjznnY/w-d-xo.html
Subaru blew it again. Anyone who bought a TR got screwed as now the better tS model is coming for 2025 with the STi tuned adaptive dampers. Unfortunately it also comes with way too much baby blue accents on the dash, doors and seats. No one over the age of 30 will like that interior, hence a no buy for me. And at the price they’re selling it for a GR Corolla or VW Golf R represent much better values with far better performance than the 271 HP WRX can muster with the fuel economy of a V8 pickup truck.
At this rate new subaru ste will be close to $60k
I don't think this trim will sell well at all unfortunately. Most people either want to buy something really sports oriented or on the opposite end of the spectrum the most affordable reliable economy car. Honda already has them beat in that middle of the line category and it doesn't seem like the power is much more than what you'd get from a Civic SI with a few mods, the sound also doesn't redeem itself with uniqueness. It's been said for like three years now that this new body and wheel fenders just aren't attractive to most yet they are still just keeping the design and not giving the major Subaru base what they want. I guess the sales numbers will speak for themselves though. It's still more exciting than a lot of manual sedans and I learned manual on the WRX so it has a small special place in my heart.
Nah I think it's a much better package than the si. The si is trash with the shit 1.5t that's the worst engine Honda ever made. The WRX has more performance potential and is probably a better daily driver too.
no diff very sad.
Anything Subaru is outdated and overpriced , I’d rather ride my stepfather then go near a Subaru 💯 🥵
Bro let the intrusive thoughts win lol
@@KTH96- also since he doesn’t know the difference between *then* and *than*, we’re all left to assume he would still drive one of these, but only AFTER riding his stepfather 😂
@@pbourdon231fucking nerd , you sound like a Subaru driver
You WHAT
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