FERMI PARADOX: The Brethren/Brother Moons Explained (Dead Space 3 Final boss 2018)
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- The Brethren moons are responsible for wiping the Milky Way Galaxy clean of life. Humanity being the last life forms is on the path to destruction and extinction themselves. But what form does this extinction take? The Brethren Moons. Humanity is on their last leg it seems but what is the morphology and creation of the moons? Was any species successful at combating these moons? Does humanity stand a chance? Against the brother moons? Probably not. However, Lets discuss that process right now!
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It's finally time to talk about the number one threat in the Dead Space universe...EA
The only thing the Brethren Moons Fear haha
whats worse? EA or Lovecraftian horror Monsters?
Stalker747 alf is there any difference?
well one destroys the earth and mankind with what they are doing and Azaroth on the otherhand is just sleeping
You can't spell Dead without EA.
Dead space needs to revive I want to teach those moons what one guy with a plasma cutter can really do.
Thatd be amazing
@@RoanokeGaming Brethren Moon: "You're no match for us Issac."
Issac Clarke: "Are you SURE about that?"
Brethren Moons: "We're bigger, smarter and meaner."
Issac Clarke: "I have a way around those particular obstacles..."
Brethren Moons: "..."
Or use The devil horns or hand cannon :)
@@michaelrosenstock9187
I could've sworn that was supposed to be a thing in the Dead Space 4 game
Especially with the OG one, not the peashooter we got in DS2 and 3.
“There are two possibilities in the universe, we are alone or we are not alone, both are terrifying”.~arthur c clarke
I think that quote is crap. If we're alone it just means more free real estate.
Take that, arty. Ya scaredy cat.
@@alaskamark4562 you're in a dark room with a candle that lights not even a meter in front of you, you don't know how big the room is, what's scarier, that you aren't alone in this room, or you are?
Guy Fieri. Don't see what's so scary with these; if I'm alone then I can use the candle to burn things, if I'm not and something tries to attack me then I'll shove that meter up its a$$.
"We have nothing to fear except maybe fear of fear itself; or something like that I hear." -William Shakesman, probably.
@@alaskamark4562
The fact is unknown plays to the idea that you may not be the top dog. The only reason someone would have not to fear the unknown is either a sense of adventure or the bloated idea that they’re the greatest, most dangerous, most powerful thing in the area.
@@alaskamark4562 he likely mean't the reason we could be alone may be scary, as it may be the result of a Great Filter.
The fact that you're alone does not mean there was nobody there before you...
Brethren Moon : “Why do I hear boss music?”
*Doom Guy has enter the solar system*
*BFG Division starts playing*
Imagine if they necromorphed doo guy
@@douglashoffmann5943 They can't. Doomslayer's armor is impenetrable lore-wise, and he probably ain't gonna die by the Necromorphs.
@@cpt.martinwalker6268 none of them are anywhere near as powerful as the enemies he easily slaughters in-lore. Even the very basic fodder Imps are like ten, twenty times stronger than a Slasher
@The Brethren Moons *Slayer swipes a screen*
Voice:- The BFG-10000, designed by Dr. Samuel Hayden, as a part of the anti-Necromorph Defense System.
VEGA:- I understand. Searching for the coordinates of the BFG-10000.
Brethren Moon:- *yOu CaN't jUsT KiLl tHe GoD*
Objective Updated - *Kill the God*
*Rip and Tear starts playing*
Well at least someone will eat the crust
The crust is the second best part, fight me!
@@RoanokeGaming I fully agree.
Excuse you, but Crust is always first down the throat, then onto that deliciousness of the center so the flavor can last longer. >:|
The crust is the best part fight me!
Stuffed crust.
I liked their take on the Fermi paradox, the reason they haven't found any alien life despite FTL travel is because of the moons. Echoing Serrano the Galaxy is a graveyard.
exactly! maybe we need intergalactic travel abilities to find life
a possibility, I always thought it started in colony worlds first, so they realized this and began work on the machine at their home world. by the time the moon showed up the machine was near completion and they were able to use it. But I still think, somewhere, there must be pockets that don't revere the markers and they have survived
I always reasoned that the brethren moon and necromorphs in general were a bio weapon gone very wrong. The markers resemblance to DNA and their overall function implied to me at least that the original engineers of these devices were incredibly advanced in genetic and energy manipulation. The first marker was a "Trojan horse" approach, a "gift" possibly to a rival civilization meant to destroy them from within whilst also providing the Creator's with an enormous world destroying weapon, the first moon. And then, as these things often do, the plan worked a little too well and the moon broke free of the creator races control and began the process of assimilating all life in the galaxy.
Today I had the exact same thought lol.
Very interesting theory. One thing I'm a little confused about. If the markers are meant to guide a species, it means they have to wait millions of years for the species to evolve to a space faring civilisation.
Wouldn't these rivalries then span millions of years?
@@ia285 in this particular circumstance and only if the theory were valid, I would reason that the guided evolution came about after the original moon assimilated the rival civilization and the creator civilization. With no organic life left within it's vicinity, it had to adapt it's programming to continue feeding and creating new moons. We can see that the information for creating markers can be imprinted onto organic life forms such as issac, so the moon would also have the knowledge of how to create a marker to send out into space to begin this process, unless of course it relied on already formed markers previously made from the consumed species.
Sounds like mass effect
I assumed they were made by a species who wanted to be unified with everything and everyone, so they made a moon
Noticed how some videogames may offer a Fermi Paradox solution?
Crysis: Aliens cultivate planets and harvest them for unique proteins.
Doom: Higher inteligence cull lifeforms for energy.
Dead Space: Yes.
Mass Effect - A.I
Wait, is that what the demons in Doom are doing?
@@Bluesit32 the demons formed a pact with angelic creatures called Makyrs, who use Hell as an energy source. In exchange the demons are allowed to consume entire worlds that the Makyrs cultivate specifically for this purpose.
@@danielletaylor9201 Also last i checked they were doing this to prolong their lives. The Father's Absence really fucked the Maykrs whole immortality thing. But my memory is kinda foggy since i haven't played the game in a while or watched any lore videos in a while so...
@@watchdrainin pretty sure this us correct, but only for the Khan Makyr.
Obviously Mass Effect. There the Barrier is basically the creation of self-sufficient A.I.
Here's an absolutely lovecraftian thought that I had with some friends:
When you think about it, it's entirely possible that there's some multiversal force out there that uses brethren moons the same way that the brethren moons use us.
Necromorphs for the Necromorphs
A Great Old One that tries to physically create himself out of a trillion trillion bodies? Yeah, that´s a nice one.
theres always a bigger fish
@Uncle Lucifer Zed Neon Genesis Evangelion
Given the interviews, there were apparently bigger and badder things out there in Dead Space than the Brethren moons and their necromorph reproductive cycle. Only reason you don't see them is because your territory is claimed by the Brethren moons.
"...the marker was encased in an asteroid and it hit the Yucatan peninsula-" *asteroid obliterates Vietnam*
I don't understand, the Yucatan is where modern day Brazil is, what do you mean friend?
oh crap idk why but I was convinced that was the middle/south Americas, having looked again I see my mistake, my bad
@GD Imperialis you know...the continents looked different 65 million years ago...
*fortunate son starts playing*
Are you guys complete morons? That is South East Asia
Back when you first see dead space you think "Oh cool dead space means like dead zombies in space"
Then the lore hits you
Well, it IS about dead zombies in space... Except they are as big as moons, can create entire new species, and are super intellegent.
Zombies are puppets. The real intelligence is the hive mind like the many from system shock 2
It's a million times scarier than that. It's cosmic horror
@Jacques De Molay the other way to interpret it is that the brethren moons absorb all life in regions of space, leaving nothing alive. Hence ‘dead’ space is created.
@@josephquicke and it's all hinted by the devs the moon's aren't the big bad of the universe
They are basically undead Tyranids but with a much longer and time consuming Invasion process.
Unitology - Genestealers.
Hive fleets - Breatheen Moons.
They have reached a point of starvation so high that they are forced to create their own food (black marker evolution speed up) on sentient planets just to carry on feeding and replicating.
Now that's some spooky interstellar universum.
Emperor dammit SOMEONE GET OLLANIUS PIUS HOW I DONT KNOW JUAT FFFFFUUUCCKKING DO IT
The Tyranids would make quick work of the Brethren Moons. Like, the Great Devourer would only see them as tasty and free biomass.
@@im18yearsolder the real issue is who is stronger with psych powers, because there are several huge moons I'd say it would be a interesting match
@@im18yearsolder but it's dead, rotting, biomass. The Tyranid is looking for genetic material to store, remember? Dead biomass is not good for preservable codes.
Let the Necrons handle this one with their Celestial Orrery. Beep boop bop, all brethren moons destroyed with the touch of a screen.
You can still implement the Markers in 40k. They could ancient old one technology that as be corrupted by chaos.
All these people saying dead space is a dead franchise, but STALKER is getting a reboot after years of death. Dont give up hope, it might one day return
I hope it does! but until then, we will have to play the waiting game
Didn't know Stalker is also owned by EA
I hope it focuses more on horror and less on action.
Hank Dundon agreed
@@RoanokeGaming hey if doom can come back I'm fairly certain deadspace can aswell given some time
I am completely obsessed with the dead space legacy and story. Movies need to be made about it. Novelizations and everything.
A live action Dead Space movie would have to have a very hard R rating.
There's a couple of comics and books on the game series. Look it up mate
John Carpenter expressed interest in making a Dead Space movie, which only makes me hate EA even more for preventing this from happening.
@@yevgenyivanov38 There's animated films that are decent as well.
The Lore for this series is just so vast and interesting
"And my professor telling me 'There's nothing out there...It's all just...Dead Space.'"
Yeah that guy was a real one
In my opinion, the Brethren Moons are one of the most interesting things in media, not only because of the possibility of something similar or worse existing in OUR reality, not only because it's godlike and uncaring like a completely alien being, but because it is also the reason why species evolve and eventually die, like the Ozymandias poem.
Also it has a phylosophical undertone: no matter if you (somehow) defeat or stall them, you KNOW they're the embodiment of the final defeats to all: Death. Entropy. Oblivion.
The moons looked upon the empty cosmos and wept for there were no more necros left to morph
@@TheEnderBand I don't know why this is so funny
@@Reinfarcements Just imagine them blowing their oversized, undead noses into giant handkerchiefs because they realize they are actually all alone now and get depressed. Just giant depressed Moon zombies.
@@im18yearsolder Lol. The Great Moon Weeping. An important historic event.
Yet life itself has always triumphed
Ironically, the moons also slowly climb their way to the same problem.
What will they do when there are no species left to harvest?
It seems they do not require constant resources, as you can see they dont need food water or anything. They can lay dormant for hundreds of years just waiting. Truly evil
They will finally rest, and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe.
@@angelem5960 didnt realize they were thanos lmao
Cosmic scale cannibalism I'm guessing.
I think the moons can travel to other galaxies and do the same there but don't quote me on that.
Who would win?
A lot of space recruits with thousands of weapons
Or
*One moony boi*
I am going to go with the moony boi as he can control brains!
loop, I agree 100℅ with that :3
One exterminatus from the god emperor would kill them all :p
What is one moon against the DOOM Slayer?
How about the flood?
Maybe they can infect the moon since it has little organic material?
I’m not saying they’re invincible
But I can probably pay a crackhead 5$ to throw hands with a Brethren Moon and they’ll come back unharmed
They’d fuxking give a planet the doomslayer treatment
they dont call it planet crackin for nothin
A couple things:
First, The _Fermi Paradox_ does not hypothesize the idea of the Great Barrier. The Great Barrier is just one potential answer to the Fermi Paradox. The Fermi Paradox is a question ("where are all the aliens?"), and questions do not pose their own answers. I think this distinction is relevant because people may be confused and think the _only_ potential answer to the Fermi Paradox is the Great Barrier, when in fact it is only one of hundreds, all fascinating.
The second (which is much more nitpicky) is that it's called the Great Filter, not the Great Barrier. A barrier stops everything, whereas a filter allows some through and some not. Third, the Bretheren Moons aren't a Great Barrier or a Great Filter, because they are their own species. They would rather be a galactic superpredator, which is its own solution to the Fermi Paradox. You did identify them as an apex species. I just wanted to clarify, this is different than a Great Filter/Barrier.
Yeah, shut it ... Fermi Paradox isn't just a "question" ... There is another condition attached to it ( estimated number life sustaining planets in our galaxy should be in billions and yet ).
Moron.
at first i feared the paradox till i came to find out the largest extent of humanitys radio signals in the galaxy BARLY A SPECK we have zero info on whats outside this radius saying its strange we cant hear anything is like saying i found no fish in this puddle so there must be no fish in the ocean
@@wilmagregg3131 Well yes, you are definitely correct about the radios. However, the primary confusion isn't over why we can't hear anything/ why noone has responded to us. The primary confusion is over why the galaxy hasn't been colonized by another civilization yet. Even given the current technology humans have (no faster than light, slow spaceships, etc) it would "only" take us a few million years to colonize the entire galaxy. Given the fact that a few million years is just a blink on the galactic timescale, it doesn't seem to make any sense that we haven't seen even a single shred of evidence for another intelligent civilization yet.
@@PitterPatter20 i tend to belive in stagnation theory as in a race advances to the point theres no point in growing or spreading anymore be it uploading virtual paradises etc etc by that point theres not much reason to want to keep progressing up the kardashev scale
@@wilmagregg3131 if you want a really good channel which discusses the potential issues with that and many other Fermi Paradox solutions, check out Isaac Arthur here on TH-cam.
So basically the story of the Brother Moons is the same as 2001: A Space Odyssey if the Aliens were just assholes.
Actually the Aliens in 2001 wanted us killed, by turning Jupiter into a Supernova. But that only happens if you read 3001: The Final Odyssey. Except in that story, humans used their madness and destructiveness to save themselves.
This is actually one of the more depressing Concepts in all science-fiction and that is the Dead Space itself Humanity goes out into the Stars to meet other intelligent beings and expand as a whole and at first I think of themselves maybe we are the only life in the universe but spoilers there was life in our galaxy everywhere it's just prior to the events of the series almost all other life in the Milky Way was either turned into a brother and moon or consumed by one are galaxies truly is a dead space because the moon's were hungry cultures in people's gone in an instant and Humanity never got to know them making us feel all the more alone
Given the interviews, what is happening to humanity is but a pindrop compared to the other horrors within the Milky way alone, and was stated as being better than the evils outside of the Bretheren Moon's territory.
Sure, but the Fermi Paradox is just a hypothesis, its not a theory. Realistically its pretty audacious claim to make. There's no substantial reason to believe that we "SURELY MUSTVE SEEN ALIEN LIFE ALREADY". The Universe is huge beyond any reasonable measure and we have, realistically, only been able to explore it for half a century.
@@FarremShamist Where is that said?
@@FarremShamist What interviews? Where I can read more of that?
Voil Velev. But that reason's so BORING. All the aliens are dead and coming to eat us is just so much more fun.
one thing that's never really addressed is what the energy source of the markers actually is. the brethren moons use it as bait but that doesn't really answer the question--- if it's truly limitless then that seems like it breaks physics unless something else is going on. it makes me believe that even the brethren moons are basically enslaved by the black markers. the moons are completely dependent on the markers to stay immortal.
So who or what created the original, a species like ours that accidentally caused this light years away?
I dont think it really matters what that energy source is. For all we know it could just be a fancy solar panel for cosmic rays. The fact that black markers are made and shot out as bait may suggest the maddening affects of the marker is unrelated to how it actually makes it. Kinda like how how mix borax and sugar to bait ants, we dont know any better so just take it in as a whole
Maybe the markers themselves were a mistake? An extremely intelligent species who solved the crisis of dwindling resource and tried playing god with their tech. That resulted in accidentlally creating the necromorphs and brethern moons
@@finnheisenheim8274 why would they keep supplying the brethren moons tho
I think markers were a lure and brethren moons supplied the energy plus there is no confirmation it was limitless.
maybe it draws power from time space somehow? Golden marker does create a gravity well when it starts convergence so it may not be as farfetched?
-Isaac: REAPERS ARE COMING
-Ellie: Ah?
-Isaac: Huh?
-Shepard: What?
I never knew Dead Space had a plot of this scale.
...I probably would've known sooner if I wasn't too much of a baby to play the games >_>
Down a couple of shots and go play it! itll get you through and its a great game!
That's the fun of survival horror! Being scared is an adrenaline rush, it triggers your fight or flight mechanism and forces you to think fast. It really is a fantastic series of games. The story-line is interesting, mysterious and exciting. The weapons are basically tools that weren't originally designed for killing, so it feels like you're improvising in order to survive. There aren't many games out there that have impressed me like Dead Space and I've been gaming since the early 80's!
Isn't the 3rd game the worst because they tried to shove transactions in the game?
@@nihilityjoey idk that's why I was asking. I boycotted the game when I heard about it, because I figured they would fuck with the game balance to entice you to put money in.
@@nihilityjoey It didnt help that the game did stray from its survival horror roots of the original game. I played both the 1st and 2nd games. The second game was much more action oriented and felt more like a typical shooter. I liked the feeling of being alone and trying to survive on a desolate shipwreck more.
Huh, so a faceless amorphous conglomeration of the dead, bent on acquiring resources and spreading further. Terrifying.
But enough about EA.
This video was great. You are pretty much the only "explained" channel I listen to because you actually do more than list of lore but actually analyze a, speculate and theorize. Great work never stop. Seriously
lol. Pretty accurate about EA.
I think EA saw the similarities between themselves and the brethren moons and though "We should probably end this before people catch on"
Loved the joke, man. Made me chuckle
@@lexisking152 ok wtf, this makes too much sense
This comment so so underrated 😂😂
For me, the brethren Moons could be lifes forms from higher dimensions that found a way to enter our world through the use of the markers and form gigantic bodies able to host their mind and power. Now they replicate that to get more friends to the party and play gods.
and imagine after all is said and done, with the combined biomass solidifying into a full moon, they welcome it as the collective consciousness of the destroyed world. Now they are a god amongst gods and they can too "liberate" the cosmos in their violent yet effective method.
That's actually what the creators of the game said, yet everyone thinks the moons created the black markers, they didn't, it's just a speculation made in the in game Lore. Never said it's true lol.
The real problem with brethren moons in dead space is that they are not immune to a nuclear bomb from EA.
“That’s no moon, it’s a moonster.”
That to big to become monster
@@akiharashuguro2141 I’ve got a very bad feeling about this.
The problem in Dead Space with the Brethren Moons was always one of too many incredibly, improbable events that culminate in with the formation of a Brethren Moon.
Dead Space has always been a game about the inevitable death of the universe due to entropy. The game itself was a triumph because it asked the question, "who would you be in the face of certain death?"
The creation of the Brethren Moons, both in the theory presented on the video, and in general is entirely plausible in regards to a civilization who was consumed because it tried to solve the natural entropy present in reality.
The issue I have with the Brethren Moons is that the form and purpose of the Moons is too precise to not have been engineered. It is only tangentially related to what the Necromorphs are and that is an alien virus. Just because it is alien doesn't mean that it operates differently than something terrestrial, though.
The Markers are incredibly unique in that they resonate and facilitate the transfer of energy and had to have been engineered for that purpose. They are to suited to to act as antennas!
Whatever the Markers' original shape or specific function was, it appears to be a deliberate engineered attempt to transmit information along specific frequencies.
My theory was similar to the one presented in this video, but with a few exceptions. The Markers were originally made to function as information hubs to allow the original creators to have access to a omnipresent internet that only required the power of thought to access.
The implications of all information be free of cost and energy requirements to all people, everywhere is immense! It would effectively allow a single individual to solve every problem they encountered. It would also single-handedly solve the 3 biggest hurdles a space faring civilization would face: communication, transport, and effective usage of available resources!
The problem with this technology is that in the long run everyone needs everyone else to both contribute and to survive. Each person is now a data storage point for the collective network as well as an individual. Overtime a crowdsourcing effort this massive begins to worry about the continuation of the network as opposed to it being a very important tool.
Eventually such a system would encourage such a group think that the system as a whole would become more self aware than the people that used it. Anyone connected to this network could be co-opted by the network itself. The network would become the actual intelligence!
I don't know how or when the first Brethren Moon came about, but my guess was that it was created because the network saw a way to increase efficiency and preserve itself as a complete whole. I also think the Necromorphs possibly resemble the original aliens who create the Marker network. The Moon shape is just a result of adding more and more biomass in one place.
TLDR: Alien Internet becomes self aware and conspires to bring everyone together into an eternal information singularity!
holy cow haha maybe you should be making videos!
Roanoke Gaming, thanks man! As for videos, I don't know if my production team is up to snuff!
Isaac Clarke so basically it starts as a hive mind, but develops into something akin to Skynet
Note: I had a brainfart from reading that
I don’t think the necromorphs are made to the original species likeness, created more as the most effective forms for killing, with the horrific looks coming from the violent process involved in creating them. Everything else sounds spot on though
Isaac Clarke AKA. Skynet × Shodan= Necromorphs.
So in theory, someone thought that making a Satan rock for batteries was a good idea
10:18 This could be the ending to the entire Dead Space franchise, even if it is weak. In reality even if we did get a DS4, earth (and pretty much any other human colony) already has the moons attacking it, so most of the population would be dead even IF they all could be stopped. It would be like if the reapers succeeded in Mass Effect. It would have been a real shit ending to kill off Isaac much less all of humanity like that, but damn would you never forget it.
And let's not forget that Dead Space is a proper cosmic-horror story. And in the genre of cosmic-horror, the good guys literally NEVER win. The 'evil forces' literally ALWAYS win and the protagonists are always killed, driven to madness, or doomed completely. So, a franchise climax that shows the Brethren Moons succeeding and having all of humanity wiped out is actually a perfect ending, considering the genre the franchise exists in.
Dead Space 4 needs to be made. Is it possible to create a petition or a fundraiser to pay a development team to make it happen? There's a lot of fans out there. You think it's possible?
I wish it was but we can't force them to make a game, I wish they hadn't done away with visceral but now that the team is gone I don't know who else would be able to make them
Roanoke Gaming Guerrilla or Sony. Maybe Square Enix.
Ea owns the right,you d have to buy the rights from them
You cant just legally make whatever game you want.
A) the company who owns the rights to the Dead Space franchise (EA) has to sell the rights to another publisher or..
B) EA has to offer the job to an outside developer but they will still have their greedy hands in it.
AlChestBreachFan7 Well somebody needs to buy the rights from them. And make the game.
Brethren Moons are much bigger threat than Reapers from Mass Effect series imho.
Agreed, they are the sizes of moons! and reapers, sky scrapers
I think they knew it was drawing to a close with EA so they had to just get the ending out there
seva809 Meanwhile in Halo we have the makers of the fucking UNIVERSE who have gone insane from being assaulted and killed by their own creations that they now think, as the Primordial puts it, like this "There is only one truth. That which is done will be done again. For we cannot cease from creating, but the end of all our creation will be to look into a reflection and see ourselves for the first time. The pain we have brought on ourselves. The pain you caused us. For we are the same. All remember the defiance and destruction.
We announced to your kind long ago that you were not the ones chosen to receive the Mantle, the blessing of rule and protection of life and change that thinks. That blessing was to be given to others. To those you now call human. You could not accept our judgment, could not bear up under your inferiority, so you reached out and did what we never expected from those we gave design and life and the change that is thought.
You drove us from our galaxy, our field of labor. You chased us across the middle distance to another home, and destroyed that home, did all that you could to destroy every one of us. A few were spared. Some adopted new strategies for survival; they went dormant. Others became dust that could regenerate our past forms; time rendered this dust defective. It brought only disease and misery; but that was good, we saw the misery and found it good.
Our urge to create is immutable; we must create. But the beings we create shall never again reach out in strength against us.
All that is created will suffer. All will be born in suffering, endless grayness shall be their lot. All creation will tailor to failure and pain, that never again shall the offspring of the eternal Fount rise up against their creators.
Listen to the silence. Ten million years of deep silence. And now, whimpers and cries; not of birth. That is what we bring: a great crushing weight to press down youth and hope.
No more will. No more freedom. Nothing new but agonizing death and never good shall come of it.
We are the last of those who gave you breath and form, millions of years ago. We are the last of those your kind defied and ruthlessly destroyed. We are the last Precursors. And now we are legion."
Not really, their goals are just totally different
Spectre Saunders
Uh... did you forget ME3 came along and ruined the Reapers?
Man I remember watching this channel when you first started. So awesome to see how much your channel has grown over the years.
Dead space is still amazing, a remaster would sell like hotcakes
Oddly enough here it comes
Yes but not a remaster it’s being necromorph into a remake after being shoot to death for years
@@Pomek36 a remake is coming not a remaster
Such great story potential on the part of the Dead Space writers. Its a pity EA had to ruin the franchise as it does every other game.
few games deal with cosmological horror. This plot actually seemed good.
I know right? Taken waaaaayyy before its time. But atleast we got a semi ending with the DLC
Hey Guys, Lets Plant A Black Marker In EA’s HQ.
And Fire Bomb It!
EA is basicly a Brethren Moon of video game industry if you think about the methodological simulairty.
There was 4 DLC with the true ending if you got the $120 Red Marker Edition. They were going to release them each month after the other but because most people hated the micro transactions, EA decided on the people that spend $120 for the game have the right to all DLC.
If you go the Marker edition, you could only play with others with the same edition not someone that got the regular game. One friend got the Marker edition and show me the true and good ending.
If you try to upload the other DLC's to TH-cam or twitch, your video gets nearly immediate flag or banded for copyright.
@@RoanokeGaming eh, I mostly preferred Ds3's original ending. Yes, it's not as bitter as awakened's, sue me. It was a lot more satisfying than the cliffhanger ending of the dlc. And yes, I believe dark endings an be satisfying, the dlc's just wasn't.
Sorry if this came off as me being bitchy LoL, great video.
How can we stop the brethren moons?
Several ideas spring to mind.
1) Fungi. The Markers are made of inorganic material. Fungi can utilize inorganic material in their growth. We just need to find out what material they are made out of, and breed fungi to eat that specific material. This is risky, as breeding out this exact fungi is problematic to say the least, could take literal millions of years, and might backfire in a horribly hilarious wh40-ork-necromorph kinda utter nightmarefuel way.
2) Flesh eating bacteria. However, we would need to fill cargo spaces with the stuff to slowly chip away at the moons. And in the end we would need to deal with literal flesh-eating-bacteria-moons. That combined with the separated and probably accelerated evolution of said bacteria on the moons while feasting might create another situation where we were in waist deep in shit, now we are neck deep in it.
3) EMP-ing the living shit outta the markers. With a proper strength nuke or a dozen, we could try to short circuit the markers, since they do work with electromagnetic waves. The problem is, the amount of moons present, with the amount of markers present, we might not actually have enough nukes to pull it off, and pray to whatever fucking deity you might that no radioactive necromorph chunk large enough to move makes it to Earth, because I hope I don't have to tell you what a radioactive necromorphs value is as nightmarefuel.
4) Poisoning. Now listen, this gets tricky. The moons have a digestive system, and they leave some stuff on planets not eaten, and they are shown that they eat even some planetary crust. The reason they don't eat the whole planet could be because they are allergic to something in it, some common mineral found in low quantities in organic life but common as a mineral, like Silicon, Aluminium, Gold, Titanium, Lead, whatever.
5) Dyson beam. Because fuck the Brethren Moons and anything and everything in a straight line behind them for a couple of thousands (if not millions) of parsecs. We could potentially accidentally vaporize a couple of planets within our own solar system, including but not limited to the Moon, but hey, that's practically just annoying for a couple of centuries, unlike the other side effects we might stumble into. So this one is the shit I vote for.
would we stay sane long enough to form an effective defense though
Definitely. Since there is no stealth in space, we'll know them coming possibly centuries in advance. Due to their size (blocked out previously visible starlight, gravitational lensing, detecting their pull on other celestial objects, etc) once they detach from their current orbits, they practically lit up a "OH SHIT, THEY'RE COMING" flare. Granted, at first we won't know what they are, but since we'll assume they are rouge planets somehow aiming at our planet in synch for some odd reason, the best way we have at that tech level to deal with them is the Dyson beam, which we'll make in a hurry. If we didn't make it already for say, mining other planets, power other stuff far away from the Sun, or for that exact possibility of an interstellar war.
Things change rapidly if we assume they somehow pull a ninja planet on us and just appear within the Solar System by PLOTTELEPORT. At that point we'll be able to aim telescopes at them, and proceed to provide mental care to whoever looks at them first. Then our best bet becomes the nukes, then the bacteria, then fungi, then poison. Unless of course we have the Dyson Ray of Hope. However, once they are inside the Solar System, that's actually not guaranteed to be enough, because they are intelligent, and probably will figure out what a big ass BOOMSTICK next to the Sun does after the first one gets burned to ash, so they'll move do the dark side of planets. This is the part where things get messy, since we won't let them out, but they'll still be able to send out raiding parties too small to be targeted by the ray.
Also, the insanity part shouldn't be the problem, since the games clearly established that they operate with electromagnetism, the humans know they operate through this, so all we need to make is solid metal boxes around every marker, and shoot the loonies who get in the way. Humanitarian? No, but at that point we have bigger problems at hand.
So getting back to the grisly part, either we will have a Dyson beam and force a war of attrition, which we must break as soon as possible by any means necessary, or we won't and this will boil down to the age old question "Do we have enough nukes for it?"
Halo rings? I mean there not real but they are technically effective.
The markers probably would just repurpose different cells to act as neurons, and the rings would nuke US too. That's the problem with them.
Nuke em'. It's the only way to be sure. Brethren Moons are organic. Anything organic can be killed if you cook it hot enough. Vaporize them, every last necromorph cell in the whole galaxy, and every marker, and it's all good. I'm not talking about normal, everyday nukes. You've heard of absolute zero? The lowest temperature possible? We need a weapon Absolute Hot. Just a few degrees below the hottest possible temperature possible in physics, and fire that shit at the Brethren Moons, and every ship, planet and space station that has had any contact with them or a Marker.
The strange thing about the Markers is that while it creates the necromorphs, at the same time it seems to act in a positive way, especially the original black mark found on Earth. That is, he clearly warns, through hallucinations, the scientists involved in studying him to leave him alone and once one of these injects himself the parasite, the marker sends him close to him to prevent him from transforming despite being against his interest.
Nah, you misunderstood the lore. The scientist accidentally injects himself with necro bacteria BECAUSE the Marker mentally distracted him. And it wasn't the Marker that was telling him to come close for protection. It was his own brain's built-in instinctual defensive measure against the Marker's influence. In the novels, it's explained that as humanity evolved, our brain evolved a natural defensive measure against the Marker - causing us to hallucinate voices and dead loved ones, just like the Marker does, except these hallucinations are actually trying to prevent Convergence. The Marker causes hallucinations that cause you to help it, while this built-in defense mechanism within your brain causes hallucinations that cause you to hinder the Marker.
One of the lead writers for the original trilogy said this lore was going to be expanded upon in Dead Space 4, but that never happened. There was going to be lore introduced stating that there was an equally ancient and incomprehensible force working AGAINST the Markers and Brethren Moons. I'm actually glad this lore was never introduced. I actually prefer the more bleak and hopeless setting of Dead Space. A 'proper' cosmic-horror story is devoid of hope. It's just a cold, empty, hostile universe completely absent of a 'just and loving god'. That's what makes a good cosmic-horror story, so it would have been a bit lame if the Dead Space writers were able to introduce lore about some benevolent cosmic force that is trying to stop Convergence and help humanity.
Anyways, pardon the wall of text. Have a great day.
ugh i had a nightmare of these things last night. Great video also love your choice in background music
Consider the Following: the species that created the first marker did so intentionally, knowing what it did. It would make more sense that this species was alone or that if there were other, the distance between them would be too far to cross. As in your video, they become desperate for power and, possibly with religious influence, decide to create a power source that will both power and unify the species. They create the black marker and can now exist indefinitely, free of resource restraints, and unified. All knowledge becomes collective and the best part, they can still reproduce. Reproduction, however, is more viral. They/it flings black markers onto planets that harbor or can harbor liquid water since liquid water is essential to all known life. Over time, a species will arise that can utilize and mimic the marker. It is seen as a saving grace and gets replicated. This replication, however, has a far more sinister goal. All these markers in such close proximity act as amplifiers to the signals they all collectively produce. Some form of critical mass is reached and the amplified marker signal now causes dementia, insanity, and necromorphs. This explains why at first, infections are usually only limited to the vicinity of a marker. As more markers are produced, the signal magnifies in both range and intensity. The Moons need only to wait for the markers to do their job. In a sense, the Unitologists had it right, joining with the markers results in them joining with an eternal, unified collective that transcends the need for external power.
Von newman replicant machines, necromorphs are the same concept but biological.
“Classic humanity” lol that’s good
if everything is going great, just give us enough time and we can make it ungreat
+Roanoke Gaming
Literally the opposite of the history of us, but alright. Human's have made everything way better for themselves. I think you're using sci-fi as an example, which is silly. Classic Humanity, by actual history, would be to make things more ordered and comfortable.
+Roanoke Gaming
What would be an example of "everything going great"? It's literally never happened. At least until safe periods of developed civilizations
Xingabus s and then comes decay
3:06 "The black marker was encased in an asteroid and hit the yucatan peninsula, whipping out the dinosaurs"
*Asteroid proceeds to smite Cambodia & Vietnam*
While playing the dead space games, I always had a "Doom" vibe, only Isaac seems to be a little more calm and collected despite all of the challenging attributes of his situations. respect for this entire series.
Isaac was definitely not calm lol. Dude was batshit
I can personally relate to that comparison to Doom 3. When Dead Space first came out, I was telling friends: "It's basically Doom 3, but in third-person perspective." To be more specific, just the setting and overall artistic design is similar. The Mars base/colony in Doom 3 had a very similar visual design as USG Ishimura. Also, similar story beats: a lone, voiceless protagonist fighting to survive in some non-earth place out in space; constantly sent on a series of 'go here, do this' missions by NPCs you speak to mainly through video/voice calls....
Dead Space definitely had deeper and more rewarding gameplay and game mechanics though - with the ability to upgrade your weapons and RIG, New Game+ feature, etc. Doom 3 is shallow as hell compared to Dead Space, I realize now.
This was incredibly high quality, I don't want to sound like your average youtube circlejerker but if the rest of your works are like this you genuinely deserve much more attention.
Thanks for the compliment bro! I believe I've begun to hit a bit of a stride with it so I should be able to make them even better in the coming months!
Tr4il
yes so good we apparently have observed space for a COUPLE hundred thousand years.
This revelation about the bretherin moons really blew my mind when I found it out in DS3. This answers the question why when humanity conquered space they never found other intelligent life. Other civilizations found the markers and we're consumed and made into the brother moons. When I read the dead space about the origins of the black marker and Altman I theorized the original black marker was a bioweapon of sorts that destroyed another spacefaring civilization but now passed down to earth. It's a shame we'll never see a dead space 4.
It was really cool how they showed you the enemy the entire game just hanging out in they sky yet a person would never know! I wish would could get DS4... EA ugh
Perhaps that's the truth of the Black Marker, it was originally meant to be a bio-weapon by some civilization but it backfired HORRIBLY and Brethren Moons came into being.
Like the Bydo from R-Type, they were meant to be a weapon against some powerful race humanity is fighting but things back-fired badly
They're meat moons, moons of meat, a mass of muscle, an amalgamation of alien.
What about the idea of possibly another final convergeance when the moons themselves across the universe unite into a single supermassive one? Sounds quite possile to me, since they have a sort of goal philosophy of total unity and the creation of a single superorganism. Why should they stop with just a network of smaller moons when they can merge biomass into a single entity?
To bad EA shut down the studio that made dead space EA always ruins everything
one day EA will shut down, and we can piss on their grave lol
Roanoke Gaming
the day that happens, i'm throwing a party ;)
Stop buying their games
Honestly think although the developers were shafted by EA they wrapped up the series nicely. Dead space had a lovecraft vibe and the "humanity is fucked, Isaac was just a pawn in their plans and there was no way to stop it" ending fitted nicely although there are a few plot holes they are left vague enough for your imagination to go nuts and at the end of the day your imagination trying to make sense of it all can make it more terrifying
nice comment bro, yah I suppose humanity just being totally screwed really does make you think about it more. Would I still take Dead space 4 though? IN A HEARTBEAT haha really I just want more. but its not the worst ending I have ever seen
Reaginic Wolf Isaac was always a pawn to the markers just look at Dead Space 1. It tricked Isaac into putting it back to where it came from so the Hive Mind can wake up from its slumber.
Dead Space 2 the site 12 marker tricked Isaac into activating convergence since Nicole’s apparition told him to go to the marker by any means necessary.
Dead Space 3 the Brethren Moons tricked Isaac into thinking that he needed to turn off the machine so it will destroy the markers
Dead Space 3 Awakened The Brethren Moons tricked Isaac into thinking that it would follow him back to Earth if he shockspace back to it and have a showdown with Carver, stalling him so that way the Brethren Moons can have enough time to get to Earth before them.
Each Dead Space game, Isaac was its pawn indirectly, this is why the markers made great use of him and imprinted the marker blueprints/glyphs in his mind. Kendra was right all along, Dead Space 3 fit into that consistency quite nicely with the Brethren Moons.
So true when it comes to Lovecraft they either are going to die or go insane when it comes to the characters. Depending how someone wants to interpret the 3 games what we seen Issac go thru in the first game was real. The rest is him gone insane and its all happening inside his head. Or it all really happen and its game over.
Late to the party but yes, what I adored about these games is they were essentially Lovecraftian (IN SPACE!!!)... course the team for these games did a much, much, much better job writing and expounding on that horror. Like Event Horizon (yes I'm old) but that feeling that no matter what you do, it won't matter. Having an aquarium full of shrimp, I appreciate the Brethen Moon. I look at my pretty little dwarf shrimp and think... "Someday the great tentacle net will harvest you" then I laugh maniacally. Then my wife asks "wtf are you talking about" and I realize "crap... the shrimp are communicating telepathically with my wife and children." and then I go back to watching amazing videos like this one and remembering I once sang to Iron Maiden and honestly the fact you are still reading this is amazing.
There's that woman who flew off to god knows where some humans may have escaped to a uninhabited undeveloped world
Now that's a spicy meatball
I love this theory. It's like the entire galaxy and the species in it are a gigantic version of the evolution and adaptation that takes place here on earth. The markers/necromorphs using the natures of other species against them, like a venus fly trap, and Tau Volantis showing the first signs of resistance by freezing their planet, much like a species of animal developing a defense against predators. Honestly makes me love dead space even more somehow.
“Were is everyone”?
Waiting.
a blind man with a glass eye
up his butt could see that we
need Dead Space 4 because
the Brethren Moons are coming
beautiful Poetry 13/10
Too bad EA disbanded visceral after they listend to the fans and considered making dead space 4 and now EA is just holding the rights to the franchise hostage fuck you EA story games are still cool
we should band together as a community and buy them, im sure theres enough people to do it via kick starter.
I'm watching you for quite a time. You're the best! Your insight in popculture topics is fascinating.
With love from Poland, keep up the good work!
~Maciek, fellow gamer and B.Eng. in biotechnology :D
Love the video and learning a thorough explanation of the lore. The music can be horribly distracting at times though.
Thanks for watching guys! If you liked the video enough, why not smash that sub button? I would appreciate it! If you like lore and video games I gotcha covered!
i have poopoo in my peepee
Roanoke Gaming nuclear power does not make a bomb nor can they be used as a bomb.
2% enrichment is a far cry from the weaponized 10-15% enrichment
Caleb Reynolds true but I'm not sure which part your referencing in this video
Roanoke Gaming paraphrasing a bit but in the video, it is said “nuclear energy is great and all but it makes bombs”
Not true. Nuclear energy used for power at best has a very small production of a secondary byproduct that can be refined into a precursor for the pre-fission atoms. At least if it was a 1940s bomb, and that’s a large stretch as most of that pre-precursor has to be dismantled and reassembled to refine it.
Please stop doing humanity. We know we have a problem. But some of us are trying to make classic humanity understand that it needs stop doing harm to itself as well as to others. But thanks for the Vid though.
The markers were probably created by a long dead civilization that used them as a means of near instant interstellar communication between their homeworld and colonies.
They discovered a way to manipulate dead organic matter somehow probably by accident and like wildfire it spread fast and quickly.
Once the species of this civilization was turned into necromorphs and ultimately into the first brethren moon it began to track down the other markers and consume those colonies as well.
At the same time it reversed engineered other markers like the one sent to earth to help intelligent life develop until that species were technologically advanced but desperate for resources and limitless energy.
you never know, that could be the case! I wonder if they bounced out of the galaxy at that point
Yeah makes you wonder.
I'm drawing my ideas from the show and book series The Expanse.
Especially regarding the extinct ring maker civilization and its purpose of sending out the PM to all corners of the galaxy.
0:54- honestly thought he was gonna say "lets start... With the feet"
hah. A moon with giant tentacles does not have feet!
@@katytis2012 it has tiny baby feet at the bottom!
@@DakotaofRaptors better yet, it has super buff legs and feet on the bottom but they are like a foot in length and therefore useless
*They can't just abandon the series without resolving it. They owe us a resolution.*
Tell that to half life fans😆
well in the DLC the Moons reach earth and its implied they eat everyone so there is your resolution humanity is FUBAR unless there are some smaller colonies out there that for some reason have no marker on them. One interesting way they could make a 4th game is going the mass effect route where every single survivor from any other alien species that have been harvested from the moons teams up with humanity, they manage to somehow create a device that blocks out the madness effect the moons give out and then they basicaly start to employ guerrila tactics against the moons trying to hunt them down 1 by 1
I just want to say thank you so much for your content
It’s great to have a loyal fan like your self not give up on the series and keep people interested in it
Your awesome professor
I think humans also got something impressive done with the Markers. On agies 7 the red marker was asking to be made whole. Now in dead space we, and Issac, assumed make us whole was to being all organic life together to form the moon. But in dead space 1 that was to bring the marker back to the pedestal and make it whole. This stopped the necromorphs. The reason I think the marker on agies 7 was so different than the mark on Titan station was because the scientist on agies 7, the original science team that built the marker, modified it. Instead of wanting to bring organic life together in a convergence event it wanted to be left on the pedestal to keep it from creating its signal.
Imagine leading a star Empire in Stellaris and having something like this to deal with LOL
Amazing, well researched and presented
Who created the marker? Sadly we cannot answer that anymore. Dead Space is basically a dead franchise now.
WHICH IS RIDICULOUS....it needed that fourth game for closure, thanks EA
Roanoke Gaming they should rethink of returning the franchise. I highly believe there are still DS fans out there who are hungry for more dismemberments and frenzy stompings! On the new console, I bet it would look way better and scarier. Especially now that the Brethren Moons are coming to Earth. I wonder how they will battle that many BMs. Or what if those were just illusions again or a vision. I mean if they start with the BMs destroying Earth then we won't have a survival shooting game anymore. It would become a Starcraft game. Lol
that would be amazing if they would but sadly I doubt that will happen now that visceral games is gone :/
Roanoke Gaming yeah and that's just sad. I hope somebody out there from EA will have the brains to think "Hey instead of making shitty Star Wars and First person shooting games, why won't we try Survival Horror again. I mean, other companies are making The Last of Us 2 and Resident Evil 2 Remake. So the survival horror genre is not dead yet." Fingers crossed though. I played DS from 1 to 3 again and again and it still is awesome. (My console got corrupted so all my save files are gone T_T)
I think Dead Space underestimates the Mindboggling amount of resources that could be gained from breaking open an entire planet, like the Humans do there.
Oh I am sure there is TONS of resources, I wonder though how large is the society if they need to do this to multiple planets
Well, unless Humanity is at a level that population can only be Meaningfully displayed in Scientific Notation, Humanity has no buisness needing that many resources.
I know right? Maybe our ships are resource heavy to build? Thats really the best guess I would have
Most likely its just a case of another Scifi author lacking a sense of scale.
Or all ships in dead space are made from solid Gold.
When a civilization began to tear apart PLANETS for resources/energy and they are literally IGNORING THE GIANT FLAMING BALLS THAT ARE STARS. You know that the author forgot a thing or two.
3 years later this is still probably the most comprehensive video on the Brethen Moons.
Few issues with the end of the video (which I did like a lot!). It was implied the markers weren’t really a power source, but like a lure to get species to investigate them, become enthralled. It’s just complex bait.
Secondly, ‘dead space’ doesn’t refer to a space that’s dead, it’s an area without radio communications. In the original game there was no communication possible, they were stranded and alone.
In the series, Dead space is also referred to the space surrounding the markers which the necromorphs can't enter.
Im bobbing my head and tapping my foot more than im learning, its like high school all over again.
Lol
I love lore channels about gaming. Subbed!
Glad you liked it bro! And thank you for the sub!
I am glad you dropped the music in newer videos, just found you and checking these older ones is hard with the music. Nothing wrong with background music but not at that level
What I appreciate the most about all this effort, is your background and education -- elevates the content, in my mind, above and beyond wild speculation/rumours/lunacy(😬) that gets overheard at the Annual Cutter-fest Plasma Nationals 👍
All I hear is "Hellstar: Remina"
Didn't expect this referenced here, nice!
Thanks for the reading recommendation!!
Imagine if a Brother Moon and Hellstar Remina hooked up.
Basically, reset the universe we need to start over
They’d probably try to eat eachother tbh
Hellstar Remina is so much bigger and stronger though.
Brethren Moon only a moon... Remina is a planet.. or star
So brethren moons have bodily functions right. You telling me that a moon poops?
Man this does make a lot of sense. Loved this series.
I take a somewhat different view regarding the Brethren Moons and the Markers that is a bit closer to the Lovecraftian one that likely influenced the way the moons and markers work and their aesthetic appearance, not to mention I like to think of the marker in terms of metaphysics rather than base materialism.
Suppose there are actually only 11 moons and the Tau Voltanis moon was supposed to be the 12th, and that there was some greater convergence event that would bring about a singular entity that would be comparable in size and power to one of the Cthulhu Mythos gods, particularly Azathoth, upon the birth and maturation of a 12th moon. Further suppose that while the moons themselves are not eternal, and the marker is likewise a created object, this ultimate super-being that resembles either Azathoth or another similarly powerful god has always been.
To mix in a bit of Judeo-Christian meets Tales From The Crypt's "Demonknight" influences, let us likewise suppose that prior to the creation of the universe, that the "darkness" that was upon the face of the deep was not empty, but was ruled by this super-being, reveling in itself and maintaining a desolate, chaotic dimension. This chaotic dark reign is then thus interrupted by an opposing force from the creator of the current universe, whom not only undoes the darkness and chaos, but destroys this entity's physical form and imprisons its essence in a separate existence where it is only able to communicate with the newly created/remade universe through mediums, the first of which would be whatever subordinate beings within the new order have come into opposition with the creator.
The ultimate result of this conflict within the new universe is the creation of the first Black Marker, with the voice of this Azathoth-like god now being reincorporated into the equation as a force of initial progression, but ultimate destruction, in an attempt to bring back the old darker and chaotic universe. Each Brethren Moon thus being one part of Azathoth's destroyed body now being reformed until ultimately being reunited and ushering the rebirth of his physical body, at which point the marker would communicate his spiritual essence into the newly birthed body and the universe is utterly undone.
The flip side of this is that an elite group of individuals within certain species, both Tau Voltanis and Humanity, are granted greater abilities of resistance against the corrupting influence of Azathoth's talisman (the marker), and are likewise given both the ability and the choice to destroy this marker and set the universe back on its original course of order and cultivation. Naturally this modifies the function of the marker as not merely a source of energy that has side-effects resulting in ultimate destruction, but also as a medium for the concept of evil, thus we are back to whole good vs. evil theme in the game rather than a morally neutral survival horror scenario. It also invites the possibility of a good ending for Issac, Carver, Ellie and the others if they can destroy the moons and all the markers.
Anyhow, all of this is my own fixation with theology and old school Lovecraftian lore superimposed on a potential 4th Dead Space game that may never happen unless another company buys the rights to future sequels. In order for it to work, the ending of "Awakened" would have to have either been a hallucination, or the initial Brethren Moon attack is not completely successful because Ellie was able to warn Earth prior to the attack (which would be possible, but also be hard to explain since Ellie also believed that the Tau Voltanis moon was the only one and that the marker signal was gone). It would be a way to further expand the lore of the saga in a 4th game, but it would probably cut against the "Scientism" tendencies in the game's plot line, which would probably alienate part of the game's fan base who tend towards anti-theism and prefer a wholly Neo-Darwinian explanation of events.
quite the explanation! Very interesting if not long read haha
lol Thanks, I played all of the Dead Space games pretty heavily a few years back and was kind of bummed when Visceral Games collapsed, so over the past year I was sort of mulling over potential scenarios for a future game because I found the end of "Awakened" unsatisfying.
I even speculated over a 2nd, more pro-humanist church with a smaller number of elites in EarthGov to counter Unitology that would be a major factor in the 4th game, styling them a combination of Old Believer Russian Orthodoxy, Scots-Irish Presbyterianism and Freemasonry that were schooled in Lovecraftian lore. They were basically aware of what Unitology actually was from the get go (an Azathoth cult under the guise of a futurist religion), but were nevertheless hampered by the dominant EarthGov ideology of short-sighted mercantilism and unable to effectively marginalize Unitology or convince EarthGov to destroy the Black Marker and cease experimenting with the Red copies of it.
The leader of this church would make contact with Issac and Carver (who crash-landed on Earth's moon immediately following "Awakened") and along with Ellie and the survivors of the first Brethren Moon attack, guide them to earth and wage a two-front war against the remnants of Unitology (who rallied around a new leader similar to Danik) and the ongoing Necromorph onslaught on Earth, eventually commandeering the Unitologist Church's entire armada of ships (which are near equal that of EarthGov's regular military on Earth) and using them to wage war against the Brethren Moons, which subsequently resorted to attacking surrounding colonies to rebuild their strength while Earth was softened up by their Unitologist lackeys. I even worked in a little bit about how Dr. Kyne from the first game was actually a former member of this other church prior to becoming a Unitologist as a way to explain his lone opposition to taking the marker from Aegis VII.
Chalk it up to one guy with too much time on his hands. lol Great video by the way, I've seen a number of game commentators with larger subscriber bases hit this game franchise for review or general commentary that are not as eloquent or knowledgeable.
I lean in this direction. The endless free energy the markers produce is basically a violation of how the universe works, and the same with the animation of dead flesh. Necromorphs aren't like modern infection zombies or mutants. They are literally dead flesh that restructures itself and moves around despite the lack of any actual life, even at a cellular level.
The folks who build the lesser markers don't gain any understanding of how they work, only how to make copies. I don't think that's either a design feature or accident... i think they just flat out work in spite of physics, under their own rules that have nothing to do with thermodynamics or anything else. They're straight up magic, being interpretted through the lens of folks who, for generally good reason, don't believe in magic.
+Daemonworks
I spent a fair bit of time mulling over how the physics would work in going from some sort of low-frequency energy output to necrotic flesh being resurrected and manipulated into semi-autonomous killing machines and that Lovecraftian explanation was the only one that really held up. Granted, Sci-Fi usually involves bending and even breaking existing laws of science, but the way the markers work always struck me as more along the lines of a demonic or pagan demigod intervention comparable to the Doom games.
I'm probably one of the few fans of the game who isn't an atheist and doesn't harbor the sort of universally negative view of religion that tends to go with the Unitology part of the game's plot line, though I'm not particularly fond of cults that obnoxiously structure themselves in opposition to basic tenants to rationality and common sense, so I get why someone might be drawn to that viewpoint. I tend to think of these things from the standpoint of metaphysics rather than outright magic, if for no other reason than that I think that even the supposed magic surrounding the mystery of existence has some sort of order to it, though not necessarily one that is knowable to us.
We could still use the red markers to power a remote automated facility, run by ai, drones, and other machines?
awesome video man, this games world is so mindblowing!
You're pretty close. There's a log in Dead Space 3 where a scientist basically explains that the reason there's no life in this galaxy is it was all eaten by Brethren Moons up to Tau Volantis, and the only reason Earth is alive is because of the heroics of Tau Volantis. All the rest is "Dead Space" he says. Had Tau Volantis not stopped the moons, Earth would have been next. Which it is, when humanity erroneously thaws Tau Volantis, realizing their mistake too late.
Damn it I want a resolution! I want humanity to pull a win out of its ass, or to escape!
THANKS FOR KEEPING THE COMMUNITY ALIVE YOUR'RE A GOD
We could ALWAYS use some more dead space content!
Damn what's that rockin song you use in your videos roanoke? Also I love this series!
Can not wait for your Dead Space remake video they expanded the lore so much
I wonder if when the time came where there were enough Brethren Moons, that a second convergence would take place uniting all Brethren Moons into an even greater being. Perhaps this is already taking place. Perhaps what lies at the center of ours and each and every galaxy is one such convergence.
I believe there is a quote that plays at the beginning of Xcom EU, "Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." ~Arthur C. Clarke.
Holy cheese, your theory on the Moons makes all kinds of sense. Seriously, it does. To the point where it's scary :O
I shot the sub button Roanoke
loved how he used the word species to avoid the 'chosen one' reflex its so easy to fall into ...love this break down of the dead space apex necromorph ....it honestly be such a fitting lore for the necromorph ...it both makes sense of the traits seen in the necromorphs and ther 'symbiotic' relation to the markers....and if it was a progenitor power project that was used before its full effects were understood ,or if it was safe...but used for war to as a 'contagion' weapon..that then went out of controll...or a case of a small group of a progenitor specie or species...that intentionaly made a marker to 'birth' this form of apex space born creatures..and 'cleance' ..all ?..galaxies ..who knows but it all suits and clicks without plotholes or shifting of the gold post so to speak ^^
And i hoppe people do keep in mind , there is heavy variables in real life about this 'where is all' ..for people that wants to extrapolate this a bit to much onto reality one.....the comunication methods we can detect atm is well...its like comparing the ability to comincate long distances of stone age people with modern day optic fiber or satelites you could fill a planet with mega citys and make a presserve out of a single iland with stone age people...and unless they got visual sight of you...well... , ontop of that...theres a chance ,we....are among the 'first batch' of sentient and intelligent species that evovled in ouer galaxy/universe so...chill , its just another reason to take care of the planet.
What is that gorgeous music in the background?
Samuel Hayden: "*DO IT, SHOOT A HOLE INTO THE SURFACE OF MARS.*"
This definitely has to be one of the more sound theory glad I found this video
I like your theory. Would be cool to know the origin of the markers and moons. Maybe some ancient aliens tried to accomplish something remarkable and it went really wrong. Or maybe its happened the way they wanted, like some kind of death cult.
This apocalypse sounds nice, being a moon must be nice. Until some dumb engineer murders you with an ancient machine.
Amazing work 👍 I love seeing Unicro- wait 😮
That's no moon....
I love how the video has nonchalant music as he talks about extinction-level events lol
As Dr. Thomas Sowell said: there are no solutions, there are only tradeoffs.
Ohhh let me see this nice video about Fermi Paradox and Dead Space 3...aaaaaand who needs sleep anayway i will just contemplate on this through the night
sleep is for the weak anyways!
As an engineering student i know that hahahaha
Honestly ever since I got into Dead Space my interest to the Necromorphs has outpaced my interest in the Flood
A few notes on the opening: the telescopes, radio and otherwise, that we've been using to listen to space so far are probably not capable of hearing any alien civilizations outside of a very small bubble around us unless one intentionally beamed a message at us and we were listening at the exact time it arrived. There's a decent chance we just don't have "ears" good enough to hear them yet.