Cut and Altered Pokemon of Gold and Silver | Pokemon Cut Content
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- Pokemon Gold and Silver had a lengthy development cycle that had a number of builds. Throughout these builds many Pokemon were conceived. Many were cut and some were altered; many of which was found within 2 build and today we'll be covering on what they were.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Cut and Altered Pokemon of Gold and Silver
1:29 - Pokemon Gold and Silver Spaceworld 1997 demo history
2:24 - Cut Starter Pokemon of Pokemon Gold and Silver
3:04 - Cut New Pokemon of Gold and Silver
5:14 - Cut Altered Pokemon of Gold and Silver
7:38 - Pokemon Gold and Silver Spaceworld 1999 demo history
7:57 - Cut Altered Pokemon of Gold and Silver continued
14:26 - Cut Evolutions Pokemon of Gold and Silver
16:54 - Cut Baby Pokemon of Gold and Silver
17:50 - Cut Legendary Pokemon of Gold and Silver
18:43 - Extro
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After the leak, Madamu has become a fan-favorite Pokemon whose almost every fan wants to join in the Pokemon games. I guess and I believe that Sirfetch'd was Gamefreak’s attempt to make fans forget Madamu. But Madamu's memory doesn't die.
As much as we all love Madame, GameFreak did actually confirm that Sirfetch'd wasn't based off of Madame
Considering that Sneasel's old design was apparently replaced with the final design at the last minute, it seems to explain why Sneasel's pallete was so odd in Gold and Silver. It was a carryover from the old Sneasel design, and they apparently didn't have time to make a new pallete for it before the game was released, something which wouldn't be rectified until Crystal.
Another thing to note is that Porygon-2 looks similar to the Pon de Lion, which wasn't made until several years later. It is most likely a coincidence. Either way, I'm glad that isn't what we got.
Oh wow good eye, i didn't notice that about Sneasel in G/S. Yeah Porygon-2's was likely a coincidence but i'm happy they stuck with a smooth duck instead lol
Thanks Professor
I am glad that sneasel did not keep its beta design - the new one looks way more awesome. Sad that I could never use one properly in the gen 2 games because the only location you could fine one is post-game.
And about Porygon2 - I had to google what Pon De Lion is xD OK, I think they avoided the design because of 2 reasons: It is a mascot for another company, so maybe to avoid rights issues and hidden advertising. And the other reason: Porygon is based on computer graphics evolution. So Polygons got smoother - The connection between going from a duck to a lion would not be very strong.
@@lindendrache8998 I agree that the final Sneasel design is better, but I still do like the beta design, even if it is a little basic. Judging by how long the design was apparently kicking around (it's even in Spaceworld '99, which was only four months before the final release), that may have been what we actually got if the final design was never made. As for where you can find one, Crystal actually has Sneasel in the Ice Path, which can then be traded to GS. For HGSS, you can find Sneasel in DPPt as soon as the sixth badge, and if you trade it as an egg, you can effectively have a Sneasel as soon as you can trade.
The Beta Porygon-2 actually predates the Pon De Lion (which was only first made around the time of FireRed and LeafGreen's release a Generation later) so there wouldn't have been any legal issues at the time (It's a similar reason to why Silent Hills became New Bark Town). It was probably due to the fact that it going from a duck to a lion was weird. Apparently there was a guy who was connected to both Game Freak and Mister Donut, so that may be why they are so similar.
@@Hijiri_MIRACHION It is really weird how late Pokemon designs were changed back then - this would never happen today, everything must be planned with the card game, the games, the spinoffs, etc... somehow I miss the earlier days ;-) Sneasel's beta sprite needs a bit of a clean-up and compared to the final Sneasel it looks too "friendly" in my opinion.
Back in the days of Gen 2 I only played the Silver version - I was a child back then and I got the luxury (!!) of having an old gameboy and a gameboy color with Pokemon Red / Silver to at least trade between those games. Getting a third cartridge - no chance back then... I only got to play crystal years later. Yes, there you can get Sneasel in the ice Path and it has its final design. Crystal made a lot things way better.
OOOOH, so Remoraid was shaped like a revolver gun and evolved into a tank. That makes a lot more sense. I always thought Remoraid was going to evolve into Mantine and they made a mistake or something with Octillery being the one that was a one form.
Yeah pretty much. A gun turning in a tank made a lot of sense rather than us questioning why a fish became an octopus
Remoraid and Octillery are still technically gun/tank inspired pokemon... It's just that they downplayed those elements enough that it takes effort to see, and is very easy to miss.
i had the same thought process too! so many of these cut pokemon are so interesting, i kinda wish they stuck to some of the older designs
the reason remoraid is under mantine is because mantine is a fighter jet and remoraid are the guns. or at least i think that was what they were going for.
I think they made a huge mistake by not keeping remoraid as a Pokémon with a unique battle form when used in a double battle together with Mantine, giving it a higher defense and a speed boost for example. I know double battles were invented a gen later but they still could go back and rework pokemon (they gave gen 1 and gen 2 Pokémon abilities after all)
Farfetch’d is my favorite pokémon so when the demo leaked back in 2018, i was devastated that they cut an evo for him. I’m happy with Sirfetchd but 100% prefer Madame
I still am hoping that Sirfetch'd is just a Galar form and Madame may still be its true evolution
@@TheObsessiveGamer well the original farfetch’d isn’t the same one that evolves into sirfetch’d. It’s galarian farfetch’d that evolves. So it’s certainly possible, but it’s also possible it’ll just be a different evolution of some other farfetch’d variant…
@@dunpeal1923 yeah I agree. That’s pretty… farfetch’d…
I’ll see myself out.
@@dunpeal1923 You must be really fun at parties. What's your favorite past time? Underwater basket weaving the biggest Wailord dongs imaginable or writing jaded poke comments? I hope you feel special when you do either or.
@@dunpeal1923 LMAOOO. Why y’all getting so heated. Dunpeal, can i not have an opinion. It’s not about the design for me. It’s about the sentimental value. I have reasons for liking it other than it’s design.
Personally, I figure Tabban, would just evolve from a Shellder when traded with a Slowpoke Tail item equipped (recalling that in Gen 2 "SlowpokeTail" was an item, a rather pointless item)
That would make sense though nothing like that was programmed in. Possible that it wasn't finished yet
I wish
This is my hypothesis as well. I imagine by the point of the first demo it wasn't programmed in yet, but sometime before the game was finished it was scrapped to make room for another pokemon, and/or perhaps because they realised after the fact that they'd be encouraging you to reward some of Rocket's Pokemon cruelty in order to complete the pokedex.
I still think it was a huge missed opportunity, and would have really nicely explained why the "Shellder" described in Slowbo's pokedex looks so different.
So heads up that I do wish to do a Part 2 to this as well covering Cut Pokemon from a leak that goes beyond just the 97 and 99 build. In this case, it would also including the one Pokemon I forgot called "Mikon" in that video too. Stay tuned!
You said espeons counterpart is Espeon lol
Can you also go over the expanded rom you played through the map and tiles? And the skateboard in the game
13:10 I never knew about the beta/demo builds but i’ve always seen the fluff on Murkrow’s head as a witch’s hat. It looks like it’s still meant to be a hat to me
Yeah on second thought it still somewhat looks like one, just to a way lesser degree
I think his hat is based on a plague doctors hat
@@corporalkills The the evolution is rhe mafia plague don
7:32 Porygon 2's early design looks more like a lion than a bear. Happier with the final here.
Yeah on second inspection, that may actually be the case lol
Remoraid actually looks like a gun in the beta
If they kept it in then you could fish for a living gun.
@@_Rez_EZ When you shoot Remoraid to get more Remoraid
@@TheObsessiveGamer there might even be remoraid licenses in Pokemon
“That’s Bang Bang!”
You're absolutely right! Its fish scales make it look like the chambers of a revolver and the lower fin looks like a trigger. I already knew about Octillery being based on a cannon but this is blowing my mind
When I was a kid, for some reason I always used to think Wobbuffet was an evolution of Girafarig. Good to know that could have been the case at one point!
mfw Wobbuffet is actually Girafarig's sibling
It was the tails
@@XDarksoulX1129 that’s what got me, when I was a kid I spent HOURS trying to evolve my Wobbuffett into a Girafarig 😂
@@amm2media472 I understand that strife.
Never crossed my mind before!
But now that you mention it I see what you mean! xD
i genuinely think that tangela line is way better than what we got. i would be using tangela on every team if it evolved into such a cool pokemon!
Translations for the Japanese names, literal translation in [square brackets]:
Happa: [Leaf], Chikorita
Honoguma: [Firebear], Flambear
Kurusu: [Cruise?], Cruse
Hanaryu: [Flower Dragon], Meganium
Manbo: [Sunfish], Sunfis
Ikari: [Anger], Angchor
Gurotesu: [Grotesque], Grotess
Rinrin: [Dingding], Tinkitten
Berurun: [Belulun], Belluna
Urufuman: [Wolfman], Ulfoy
Waaurufu: [Werewolf], Warulf
Kotora: [Baby Tiger], Sparkub
Raitora: [Lightning Tiger], Voltiger
Norowara: [Cursestraw], Vudu
Kyonpan: [Kyonshi Panda], Pandeparted
Bomushika: [Bomb Sea Lion], Sploseal
Taaban: [Turban], Turbite
Tsuinzu: [Twins], Linknil
Riifi: [Leafy], Leafeon
Nameeru: [to lick], Lickilicky
Madamu: [Madame], Mallardame
Purakkusu: [Prax], Prax
Animon: [Animon], Animon
Shibirefugu: [Numbing Pufferfish], Shoxpand
Tsubomitto: [Bud/Pitcher Plant Mitt], Bellstout
Monja: [Shaggy], Shaggie
Puchikoon: [Petite Unicorn], Tinycorn
Koonya: [Little/Coin Meow], Coimew
Gyopin: [Fish Pin], Pokoi
Hinaazu: [Hinars?] Actually no idea for this one, but I'm going to call it Thredgling
Para: [Para], Para
Pudi: [Poody], Pudie
Betobeebi: [Sticky Baby] Blobby
Baririina: [Ballerina], Mime Jr.
ooh thanks for all that. They were definitely very literal with a lot of these too.
@@TheObsessiveGamer I get the feeling they were more placeholder names in most cases, yeah
Some of the old designs look more "lively" than the ones we got. Which is a tad disappointing. There are exceptions like old Larvitar, that needed to be killed with fire. Yikes. Honestly, I wish we got another Pokemon with that cut Entei design. While it may not fit a legendary, it's a really awesome design. Maybe update it to fit a mega Arcanine, yeah I know they are likely killing the mega evolution idea going forward but I still hope for something for Arcanine. Gamefreak won't rework it's stats to be better. Use that cut Entei sprite to make a new Dark/Fire or Fighting/Fire Arcanine form.
I can imagine that sprite (and other dogs) even just being introduced as a regional variant to the dogs much as we got regional variants to the Legendary Birds too
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yeah a regional variant of that Entei sprite would be so sick.
i would love a ghost arcanine
@@violetsparkles5453 Dude, a ghost/fire type Arcanine? Sign me up. I never thought of that possibility.
@@JeremyCuddles right??? gimme some will o wisps style arcanine, with ominous wind and sacred fire
Worth noting that between 97 and 99, Hitmontops orientation changes. The positioning of its arms and the two eyes that are above the single eye in 97, indicating that it's right side up and the feet are on its head. However, in 99, you can see the eyes and crossed arms change positioning, indicating that it's now balancing on its head.
I still think it is balancing on its head in 97 too. The only thing is that its just position its arms differently I think
Umbreon's final pokedex entries that talk about poison secretions is a throwback to the beta, looks like they didn't update that text.
Anyone else think Kurusu up there might have given Game Freak an idea for the later Popplio line? Or Oshawatt's final evolution?
I was thinking that myself. Popplio would be the more logical one i'd think
I much prefer the beta design for Tangela's evolution. It looks more "designed" to me where Tangrowth mostly looks stretched out and less detailed than both its beta design and its pre-evolution. I also vastly prefer the old Girafarig. While I can see the possible problems arising from the design (like how to animate it in the anime) the design just fits the palindrome idea way better. Tsuinzo reminds me of Wobuffet's tail btw.
That lickitung Evo looked like it could have used the kings rock to evolve
ooh maybe? I believe in that leak it was still by level up, but might have been incomplete still at that time.
Ikari (Achorage) is one of my favorites of the cut Betas. I do not like Sharpedo very much, because it is missing a tail - yes, it should look like a bullet / torpedo - but c'mon, it looks like it is missing half of its body. Having a Water / Steel Shark-Pokemon with an anchor as a tail would be great! Also the Kotora / Raitora line would be great as final Pokemon.
I also like the 1999 version of Aipom a lot more than the final form - the final one looks goofy as hell with its grin, I never used one on my team. But the 1999 form looks like a cute little monkey.
So many designs that deserve a second chance. Come on GameFreak
I'm a really big fan of Ditto's cut evolution. I wish Game Freak would introduce it in a new generation. Would be really cool to play a more tankier version of Ditto, but maybe they thought it could be too powerful.
While a tankier Ditto sounds neat, would that stat even matter once it transforms? I would like the idea that it'd also make any Pokemon it transforms into have higher def/special def too.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yeah, higher def/special def in it's transformation would be awesome.
It's interesting that it evolved using a metal coat, cause there is a Ditto specific item that raises its defences called Metal Powder.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Higher HP is the one stat it would get to keep, so seeing a drastic increase in that most of all would be pretty nice.
i'd really like an evolution of ditto. all base stats of ditto are just 48. it doesn't increase when leveling up.
The Wobuffet prototype is really interesting. The Poke team sure did a lot of work just to cut them all later. Nice finds here! Excited for PT 2! (hope to see Imposter Prof. Oak)
Well if it did indeed become Wobbafett, then I guess not a true waste?
I still wish Pokemon like Heracross or Pinsir had some sort of evolution or even baby versions
Both honestly deserve it and we need more stronger bug types
Manbo is probably a placeholder name due to the number that follows its name. Also worth noting regarding the Wobuffet/Twinsu connection: in the Spaceworld 99 build Twinsu's backsprite is a red Girafarig-like creature further cementing the connection between the two. This also means Twinsu's design was altered yet again after the sprite archive design. unfortunately no frontsprite exists of this one.
Well it is theorized that a lot of these are placeholder names, so possible
I wish Kyonpan made it back somehow. I really like the jiangshi crossed with a panda design. It’s pre evo can stay cut though if that was the problem.
I imagine the preevo could simply lose the nail and just look like some voodoo doll to make this work. I do hope they reintroduce it one day
@@TheObsessiveGamer Beta Legendary Doggos would be interesting if they brought back for lore purposes. Like what were the legendary beasts before they died and got reincarnated? Are they Johto region Pokemon that went extinct or are they from another region we haven’t been to yet?
@@DumuziTheOriginalGod Well there is that theory that the beasts were actually the Eeveelution but that's just a theory
@@TheObsessiveGamer And then there's the idea that since the Legendary Beasts are described as reincarnations of natural forces that the Legendary Birds are associated with, that the Birds died and were brought back as the Beasts.
I like to think Ditto's evolution may have worked like the imposter ability, or simply would have had higher stats when transformed.
Wish we got Taaban as it'd be cool to get it if you evolved your Slowpoke into Slowking similar to getting Shedninja and Ninjask from Nincada.
Thanks for the vid :)
Thanks! and that would near. Makes me wonder if the idea of Shedninja and Ninjask might have stemmed from this
I’ve been looking for videos that compile Pokémon cut content into a singular or short digestible series and I’m just surprised I didn’t find you sooner. For a long time I just found stupid shorts-only channels that give you like 2 or 3 tidbits at a time. You earned by sub, thank you much.
I watched this on my tv first and it looks so good! So many great visuals. Really glad you covered this topic. I think by separating the 97 and 99 leaks you made the content fresh.
Thank you! glad you got to enjoy it a big screen at that. Yeah I felt it should be seperated to better explain these
I think I remember game magazines getting to see unrevealed Pokémon from the Spaceworld 1999 build that they couldn't show photos or screenshots of and could only describe them through text,, and beta Celebi was one I definitely remember. I just can't remember if it was Nintendo Official Magazine UK or N64 Magazine.
Yeah that makes sense considering we got basically nothing till recently
Great job on this dude I have seen a few videos on this topic but I think this is my favorite.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed that much!
Sadly the ytshorts destroyed youtube and us we cannot even watch 2 minutes from a long videos like this
I remember rumors of all these pikachu variants pikablu and pikaflare also mewthree and mewfour we used to have wild talks on the playground back in the day.
Norowara looks really good I wish they didn't cut it. I wonder what it's shiny would have looked like.
Maybe yellow made with hay?
It probably wouldn't have been very useful, but I think the Meowth pre-evolution would have been cute.
Why does the 1999 pichu at 9:42 literally look like the pikachu meme omg
Me: *Pikachu shock face* at this
If Bomushika never got cut, that thing would *definitely* have Pyro Ball in Gen 8
Man what a missed opportunity lol
The original designs for The Legendary Dogs could be the last of their kind, but after being revived by Ho-Oh, transform into their current forms. Maybe they'll show up if Pokémon Legends Johto ever happens one day.
I do think that one is more a theory as to their origins? Unless I am missing something?
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yeah, just an idea I had if Game Freak were to use the old designs in some way.
Remoraid was based on a gun, which is why it evolves into the Pokemon that was based on a tank. Porygon2 was based on a lion donut mascot (for some reason.) Larvitar. Sunkern, Forretress, and Wobbuffet were just placeholders. Though I do wonder if Sunkern was originally going to look more like it's placeholder?
Hitmontop looked badass you have outdone yourself SIR. 💪👊
Wish they didn't cut the Nail/Kyonpan Evolution.
Very much this
The original Sneasel looks like Mienfoo.
Great video! Really interesting 🤔💜 makes me wanna play gen2 again
Considering both Sneasel and Mienfoo are from the same species, I can see the similarities.
Thank you very much!
Also girafarig and wobuffet are both pokemon with false heads. Seems like maybe they had the idea for tsunizu and brought it along development, but later concluded the connection between the pokemon was too weak so they split them apart into different lines. The 1999 version is probably in the middle of that decision. Like, someone started to try to take tsunizu from rough draft into final form, and came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth pursuing, and so they stopped with just a blob drawn
Christ! There are so many good ones cut an so many of the beta versions look so much better than what we actually got. Seriously have to wonder wtf they were thinking.
Yeah a lot of unfortunate cuts. I do with they'd bring back some of these old 'mon for a later gen
Madame(farfetch'd 's evo) could be used as a madador duck
I'd love to see them revisit some of these cut ones, especially the pre-evolutions or alternate routes in a new game.
Fun Fact: As for Mademe, It may have inspired Sirfetched for Sword/Shield and Swanna for Black and White, Black 2 and White 2
Actually they did confirm that Sirfetch'd wasn't inspired by Madame in an interview a while ago.
Madame was actually shown to be both male and female in the Space World Demo! It's not really odd, considering Mr. Mime can be male and female as well. Despite having "Mister" in its name.
Ah didn't know that one. Thanks!
Any idea where to find Kotora the as I call if, thunder-cat? Route 102???? I have been trying to find it before I get to the next / second rival battle if possible.....
The 1999 demo had so many crudely done placeholders. I love it.
I have a physical copy of super gold 97, and as much as I loved gold and silver as a kid, this game would have been the best Pokémon offering we would have ever gotten
I still need that Pinsir evolution as an alternative to Mega Pinsir; wonder if it will show up someday.
Hopefully. If Meowth could get that made different forms, why not Pinsir?
Imposter Oak, huh? Now the existence of that Pokémon trainer card makes more sense
My first thought. I am hoping to do a video on him at some point
Anybody know of the artwork at the very start of the video and if so, can you post a link please? It’s so awesome and I would love to see it in full!
porygon's original form probably had to be changed because of copyright. it bears a strong resemblance to pon de lion the mister donut mascot
Actually Pon De Lion's mascot was made in 2004. There would be no copyright issues at that point.
@@TheObsessiveGamer huh, weird. well the same designer who made pon de lion did work with gamefreak a few times in the mid nineties so i guess he just recycled the design after it was scrapped and not the other way around like a bunch of people(myself included) thought, haha. carry on!
@@technopoptart anyway.good thing that abomination never made it out of the beta phase
Qwilfishs’ evolution was later used as Whishcash but I guess redesigned as a Catfish. They both have that lightning bolt on their forehead.
Is there is a source on this one? I know it's a theory but haven't heard GameFreak confirm it
@@TheObsessiveGamer no but I mean, just look
i played the hack by fans thats completed. Wow it was well made and using these sprites. Super well done and interesting new game to play. We need more like it.
Yeah it's a very good rom, I did a playthrough of it.
Pokemon Gen 2 are the games that keeps on giving!
I really had no idea that there were a lot of cut pokemon from that generation!
I wonder what would happen if they released these in an alternate timeline! Interesting... :)
Well we'd have a superior Wooper for one if they did lol. I really think they could take all these cut pokemon and make a whole generation out of them if they really wanted to
@@TheObsessiveGamer That would be cool!
Some of these mons still look better than some of the most recent gen's pokemon.
Now adays at GameFreak:
"Hey we're out of ideas for pokemon designs, what can we do?"
" Let's make a pokemon out of inanimate objects!"
I mean they did that back then too such as magnets lol
@@TheObsessiveGamer lol thats a good point. Just seems like pokemon such as Magnemite were way doper than pokemon like Klink or Honedge. My opinion though xD Just seems like they were more creative back in the day.
Most of these cut pokemon and models were so much cooler.
I really want baby meowth and the bell cats.
Still hoping it might happen one day
The graphical assets looked better in the demo, I don’t know why they eschewed it for the stuff we have today.
Timestamp 10:55
Someone messed up placing the Final version sprite for lanturn(?), as they placed it directly on top of the former evolution's Final version sprite; preventing a proper comparison of the first form.
Timestamp 11:37
Another issue with sprite placement… instead of placing beta sprite for Giraffarig under it's beta art above it's name, the stuck it on top of the beta art for it's scrapped pre-evolution…
Note to self on not editing at 3am in the morning again lol. Will plan to be more careful next time
@@TheObsessiveGamer
We all make mistakes; I was just pointing these out so you (and others) can learn from them.
I do enjoy your channel's videos; I hope you and your team keep up the good work with the content~!
Um, I'm gonna need that beta Quagsire.
What about the Beta Wooper? :P
@@TheObsessiveGamer Absolutely. I'm gonna need all of them.
Omg those beta legendary dogs look amazing.
They are very elegant :3
With the scrapped Qwilfish evolution you forgot to mention Overqwil
Animon was theorized to have transformed into a Steel type version of the opponent's Pokémon.
Yeah that would make sense and would fit my theory of it being not finished here afterall
All these designs look 100times better than anything they came up with here lately
Most of them look better than the ones they actually put into Gold an Silver.
All 3 Tora tigers would have made welcome additions to shore up the relatively anemic rosters of the last 3 Gens.
Honestly I do really love a lot of these designs, but I wish they would at least get reused for later gens
Baby Tyrogue looks like it had some design connection to Spinda with the ears
Maybe an inspiration?
So many of these Pokémon are so cool fffff
thanks for the video
I will never forgive GameFreak for the loss of Warwolf.
Rinrin's loss still hurts
A lot of these are better designs than the Pokémon we got in the finished gold and silver. Warufuman is one of the cutest Pokémon I’ve ever seen and I think it eventually became snorunt but werewolf is a much better design than glalie. I think they’d have been the best dark/ice types. Cyndaquil used to be my first and favorite starter line but now I kind of prefer honoguma (it kind of looks like a bear-pikachu) since we didn’t get fire bears and I love dynabear. I also love the water starters more than the totodile line. Pokémon was always very good with plesiosaur designs like Lapras for water transport, and it’s just such a classic Pokémon feature. Ikari is so unique and so was jaggu from gen 1. Bomushika had such a useful water/fire typing. The third form of kotora actually looks very strong. Norowara and kyonpan may be too creepy but I can’t help but think they’re so cute. The dark cat Pokémon are so cute. Lost early Pokémon are so nostalgic it’s like looking deep into an unreleased classic Pokémon game (when the designers had more passion and got too successful to care about quality). Although maybe the johto Pokédex just got old for me after all these years. A lot of gen 2 Pokémon are some of the weakest ever made. Some have said they were rushed games but I think these unused designs just destroy newer generation Pokémon. Not to mention gen 2 were my first games and they had some of my favorites like suicune, Lugia, bayleef, tyranitar, sneasel, ampharos, lantern, wooper, raikou, girafarig (I prefer the original design), jumpluff, natu, heracross, typhlosion, skarmory, wobbuffet and lots more. Also other forms for gen 1 Pokémon like kingdra, politoed, steelix, scizor, and the cutest, pichu. But they also had absolute jokes of Pokémon like smeargle, delibird, dunsparce, aipom, shuckle (which I still love but I mean seriously, what the hell even are these?). Plus unown, the most powerful Pokémon of all time.
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wait.i thought that was always the official design for octillery
mandela effect moment.
so beta Wooper was just a Doge?
You mean Wooper :P
Beta Remoraid is meant to be a revolver, I think.
Yeah it is indeed to fit the tank design of beta Octillary
I’m Starting to see Hoothoot and Ledyba as Counterparts.
Very nice. :)
Is kubfu maybe a callback to little fighting bear version of tyrogue?
On the "Pinsir evolution became Heracross"
Pinsir evo has the same arm structure as Heracross.
Pinsir and Heracross have the same BST just like Scyther and Scizor
Pinsir learns quite a few Fighting-type moves, and Heracross gained the Fighting-type.
It's pretty obvious Heracross was at one point that Pinsir evo.
Heracross and Purakussu actually co existed in several builds.
This was infomative. I really liked the farfetch'd evolution. Why would they cut it? ;-;
Good question... and then give us Sirfetch'd instead too.. (not that I hate that evolution, but I miss Madame)
@@TheObsessiveGamer i really dislike Sirfetch'd. They could've done much better than Farfetch'd but new.
All of those scribbled 1999 leaked pokemon like Larvitar, Sunkern and Wobbuffet are that way because they made multiple designs for the mons but couldn't settle on one yet. The Larvitar design we know today was already completed for example, but they couldn't decide if it was supposed to look like that or a baby Tyranitar.
Well I did mention the Larvitar was potentially just an unfinished version of it. Possibly still there for a bit from an earlier build until they made its final sprite?
@@TheObsessiveGamer That wasn't the reason. Look up the gold and silver Cbb scratchpad sprites and you'll see what I meant with them being undecided on which take to follow.
Rinrin, a dark cat pokemon I'd actually want versus purrloin...
All of the legendary dogs look better as their 97 design. They actually look like dogs. Suicune (great dane/vizsla) and Entei's (Schnauzer) final designs are passable but Raikou is straight up feline.
Suicune's '97 is a misunderstood emo feller.
I do like these designs more, but I kinda get why they may have redone them as they wanted tougher 'mons to represent them?
Well, they aren't legendary dogs in the final, even tho they are known as that, they are legendary beasts (they ressemble more felynes in the final tho, I don't know how the dog thing comes to be)
Raikou is a saber-toothed tiger, Entei is a Red Fire Lion of Japanese mythology as seen ad nauseum in their pop culture, and Suicune is a spotted wildcat such as a leopard or cheetah...but with a bit of a horse face.
Personally the unused colors and designs for Maril would make a really cool regional variation!
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Cool video and yeah, i think that shell was meant to be connected to slowbro and slowking, in some way.. Also, some of these look more like Digimon
Wow, I prefer a lot of the old designs.
'SIR FETCHD'?? It's weird when you're also introduced to designs that DID eventually make it but you were still wholly unaware of them. You can have your later gen fucks xD
I wish we got this Porygon2. It's so cute
Ikari looks sick
Beta Gen 2 is the coolest thing ever! My favourite must be Wataneko or known as the beta form of Jumpluff. I do not know why they had to change the design for The Hoppip line as it was perfect as it is. A popular theory is that Beta hoppip looks too similar to Oddish. If they just changed Hoppip's colour then there would no need to alter the design for it. If they do some new forms or evolutions they could add some of the old designs in this Beta and improve the Pokémon world. Just my Opinion, thank you for reading and yep. Subbed to this Channel! Byee
My favorite generation, so this the 1997 leak was a big deal... I didn't know about the 1999 leak though or creepy Celebi XD
Yeah 1999 is a bit obscure. I plan to do a part 2 on what is an even stranger leak relating to all this too
I absolutely adore the -97 hoppip line ;__;
Especially love the Skiploom
I feel curious about Ditto's evolution. Did he learn any new moves? And did its stats improve?
No new moves and stats were still not finalized yet
Ah yes, Espeon's counterpart Espeon.
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Might be more a Mario History video if I did that lol
i love the ears on the original leafeon i wish they kept them
I love the Shark.
Also, the 3 legendary beasts are meant to be cats - Raikou is a tiger, Entei is a lion and Suicune is supposed to be a Leopard (even though it very much looks like a wolf)