2007 GSXR 1000 vs 2020 GSXR 750 DYNO BATTLE- Also Power Commander VS MOORE MAFIA ECU Flash
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2024
- Two friends brought in their Suzuki GSXR 1000 and 750 for a dyno tune. One bike already had a PC3 installed, but it was giving problems. Watch as we remove the power commander and retune the bike to gain MAJOR horsepower.
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That 750 needs a set of the 600’s velocity stacks, I know for a fact that it’ll make more power in the upper rpm’s, I did a back to back race the same day with my bike vs my friends 750. We were dead even with stock stacks, but when I put the the 600 stacks on, I easily pulled away from him. I just wish I was able to put it on a dyno to see exactly what they did
are those hard to install?
@@prelude12341 no they are pretty easy to install on the 2011-present bikes, it’s like literally 3 Allen screws on each stack inside the air box next to the air filter, it should take 10-20 minutes from start to finish. You can pick up the stacks multiple sources online like eBay or OEM parts sites for $20-40.
600 stacks are taller compare to 750? Or dual(2 short+2 long like the k7 750 have?
If you want the best result,go to calculator,and count it,what rpm you use(the limit the airbox top high),and you can make own dual stacks.I use my stacks on 1k1 and its make great power a years ago! 4 short,with big lip for up rpm,and 4 tall for mid rpm..you win power everywhere!
@@anonimus4639 the stacks that come on the 600 are short, many an inch tall with the 2 inner cylinder’s being slightly shorter than the outside cylinders. The 750 stacks are about 1.5 inches on the outside 2 cylinder’s and about 4 inches long for the inside 2 cylinder’s. From what I can remember off the top of my head
@@rynev3392 If the 600 stacks was shorter outside,its moove your top power point in upper range compare to oem point.
Hmm.. i measured my k7 750 stacks,and the outside two have 16mm(0,6299 inch) and 2 inner stack have 59mm(2,3228 inch) length.Measured from inside the airbox base...4 inch its a 101,6mm looks like too high for my k7 750 airbox..
One guy on forum(if remember right cbr) make a 4 short stack,some half inch,or so,and build secondary 4 stack on top of it with 3 inch length.Upper stacks moved up with a simple actuator,with setted rpm switch.The idea work like yamaha r1 stacks,just with simple method.Worked great on bike!
That’s real good for that 1k.. My 2012 1k made 163 with a full Brock’s alien head and sprint filter on a baseline pull
I got that year now and full yoshi, K&N filter it's making 182. Somehow I must have got a unicorn cause even the guy who tunes says his made around 160
@@Brandon35G true or yours might have been flashed already 🤷🏽♂️.. I just got flashed but I need a new tire and chain which was really holding some more hp back
@@WillyBeamGSXR1k yeah I got it flashed and dyno tuned, it went from 175 to 182 once he got all of the power from it. Lmao I needed a new tire afterwards cause his dyno chewed my tire up
@@Brandon35G same reason why I need a new one and because I took some air out when I was racing lol
I don't think the power commander 3 supports 02 sensors which the Suzuki added in 07. My 05 and 06 1000's doesn't have them.
We need Moore videos like this. Awesome!
Tell you what,, I'll no longer be buying a power commander at 350 pounds sterling,, and then a map down load, or the tre plug,, I'll go ahead and get a reflash of the ecu,, I've a k6 1000 with 9000 miles on the bike,,, from Northern Ireland greatly appreciated thank you for the video awesome viewing with facts and information not bullshit,, to sell a product I don't now need ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️👍👍👍👍👍👍
Just got a 6400 mile '07 and need some help making it the baddest street machine. It's SO CLEAN don't wanna touch it. It runs HARD
I have a 2008 Suzuki gsxr 1000 we did a dyno but I have a lot of money into my bike we’re at 175 hp with MR 12 we could’ve got more out of the bike but it was hot that day for 93 octane we got 172 horsepower
I have a 07 gsxr 1000 gotta say for being 15 year old bike she still holds her own
I roadraced a ‘97 GSXR-750 during the 98-00 seasons. I loved that bike. Had a Yoshie Duplex full-system exhaust and a V&H Powerpack. Didn’t make anything like the power they do now(mine made about 118 hp) but boy was it a fun bike to race. Pretty cool that Suzuki still has the three-quarter liter missile in its lineup.
Edit: i was somewhat surprised to see that your example didn’t go in the high 120’s anyway? I wonder what kind of power the Gixxer 750 could make it if got the same level of development that we see in the liter bikes??
What you mean about "same level of development that we see in the liter bikes??"
The 750 have the same package,like 1L,just the cc is smaller,not?
My K5 made 165/83 earlier this year. K8 head/cam package is getting swapped in next month. 😈
I have an 02 Gsxr 1000 I dnt have an ecu is wat I was told by my bike being an 02 so how would I go about getting a tune?
After many 600s and a snall break on harleys im coming back to sport bikes and buying a liter bike, im 35 years old its time!lol idk what to get!? Looking at used cause im not spending 30k i found an amazing deal on a 08 gsxr1000 but am like should i spend the couple extra grand and get the 2015 or 2017 for more power ect and is it worth it? Or no?
Nice! I have a 07 1000 white blur. same exhaust but full TRC carbon, BMC filter, and rapid bike plug. Wish it would have had the full system to get an idea of power realistically. Good work MooreMafia 👏
I had the same setup basically on my old k7 1000 but full system and my bike make 167 to the tire. I did have a heavy shinko rear on it that the tuner said robbed me a few hp so probably closer to 170 with a 180 rear.
I have a 1999 gsxr 750 fi. 4700 original miles. Full yoshimura exhaust and k&n filter. What can I do to get the ECU tuned. Ps very nice bikes.
If you cat delete and fit some after market ends cans, then remap do these K7/K8's pick up a good chunk of the lost low down and mid range power of the K5/K6??
Back in the day they were new, everyone said that was the case, yes.
Great video Chris. That Giveaway Busa' is sick. Very well done
Old boy is from STL.. Bikers Corner in the HEZEEE..
Where are you located i have a 2019 GXSR 600 i need looked at
I've been meaning to ask what if you physically delete the electronic throttle plates and leave only the cable operated ones leave it all plugged in like its still there similar to what you do to exhaust servos. also where can I get these sprint filters for my pre big bang r1
The 07 gsxr 1000 is a beast i had one crazy mid range power
Nice work. I'd love to get my 06 gsxr1000 and my 2013 BMW s1000rr to you and see what you could do with them.
Nice two good bikes huh.
I can do the 06 gsxr.
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So can the new R1s have multiple fueling on different power modes???
No
What's up with the zx14r you were working on?
What's better then a stock ecu/ with a flash? Like would I gain more with an aftermarket ecu for my bike? Or does your flash do the same thing? Thanks Chris!
Idk why he said stock ecu. I think he was sayin just send in your ecu cuz its the same thing. Flash is a flash either way. I have heard of ppl buying a second ecu n flashing that so they have their original . unnecessarily tho.
April 2022 I want to ride from nyc to you for a tune 08 750 . Is this possible ?
Yes sir! We can make you an appointment and do it while u wait and watch!
Dude im in NYC & ive been thinking of doing this also! I have a M0 750
Hey what up Chris, can you flash the ECU on my 2002 gsxr 750 if I mailed it out to ya?
My fbo 06 gsxr1000 dynoed identical to the 07 gsxr1000. Power commander, no flash. Tuned on 91 pump, but now using 93 pump. I have since installed better flowing air filter, heat wrapped under tank and air box. Wondering if I flash the ECU and a good tune, hope to get into the 170's rwhp.
Asking a lot out of a bike that came from the factory with less then 160 hp at the crank. If you want to see it at 170+ you're probably going to have to cam it or turbo it.
@@deathwish8339 there isn't a Cycle Magazine or Dyno video anywhere that shows a K5 - K8 Gixxer making less than 160whp... Where do you get the information of them having less than 160hp at the crank from the factory????????
@@bacchusthompson5834 sorry, I meant they had less then 160 at the wheel. K5's we're rated at 165 at the crank or bhp if you prefer. K6 and above had a slight boost at 176 or something at the crank. Most bikes loose 10-15% getting their power to the wheel and this data supports that. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_GSX-R1000
@@deathwish8339 Wikipedia says a 2001 r6 makes 107 brake on the rear wheel? What a load of crap! K5-K6 GSXR is 176 at the crank, K7-K8 is 185 at the crank. Wikipedia also says a K3 GSXR1000 makes more power then a K5 GSXR1000. K3 having 162 at the crank? Yup - more crap! Bad idea posting wikipedia specifications.....
@@thestar111 thank you for sharing your reference with your claims. If you look back to articles from the day the K6 got a small boost to power with the added weight. Same motor, slightly massaged to get more power. But whatever. I've raced guys on these bikes, they are slow. 176 rated is definitely not 176 to the wheels.
Definitely have to use proper tune loaded on power commander for them to work well.
2017 big gixxers went to finger follower valve actuators. 750 never got them.
Man you crazy 🤣🤣🤣 I knew you were going to say something funny...lmfao... I wish I could have her with Magic Mike said
I had a K5 SV1000S. 110 hp. Like to see the flash parameters on a K7. Wondered about the TRE too.
Want to see a SV1000S K5-K7 dyno flash by MM myself!
Just picked up a k7 gsxr1000 in that exact same color. Its all stock except yoshi slip-on with 29k miles... I hope thats not too high milage to get a dyno tune. It runs absolutely perfect the way it sits but without a tune it could be a tad lean. Should I dyno tune it just for daily riding commuting because she's all stock atm. Planning on putting lots of miles maybe another 10k miles if it lasts that long.
I have the same bike with 24k on it. Bought it with 15k 2yrs ago with a full m4 exhaust and no PC or tune that I know of. Bike runs like a champ and spits flames on demand
can go 200k
Any dyno time openings coming up? I have a 06 GSXR1k with a m4 slip on, kn filter and pair valve delete on vortex quickaccel sprockets. I need the AFRs cleaned up, restrictions lifted, fan temp trigger dropped to below 200 F and FI light addressed for the pair valve delete. I'm not that far from you guys, coming from Statesville NC.
I can get you in next week. Call 864-608-0119
Did you ever get a dynotune from MM?
I haven't gone out there yet. My vette blew up and burnt up so I've been preoccupied. Before the spring tho that's the plan.
So does the 2007 750 have the drive modes?
Is the TRE worth it? Did it actually work? Did they alter the ignition, fuel map or both?
They are useless with an ecu flash.
I like watching the dyno runs very cool stuff
Awesome videos as always you guys rock
I really like this 2022 HAYABUSA And the contest of the your TH-cam channel is very nice the content wont get any other TH-cam channels i am really a greate lover of the 2022 hayabusha it is my bream bike......
I want to get mine flashed for my 2014 750cc would I need a tune for my bike as well?
Watch the video in this link.
Www.MooreMafia.com/ecu-flashing-service
Sheesh.....i guess im spoiled with my 19 zx10....older 1000s arent slow but 😬
Bought a K7 2yrs ago with 15k on it, it now has 26k on it. She's definitely no garage queen. I ride the piss out of her and she's still going strong and scaring me straight from time to time 😄
Got a 2007 gsxr 1000 with full yoshi and K&N filter but makes 182, still not bad on what the one in the video made though
thats the difference between a full system and filter vs just a slip on
My question is this, how are all these restrictions not considered fraud? Why am I paying 100% cost of the of the bike if I am only getting 90% of the advertised horsepower. .
Nice cool too see a older Gixxer 1k.
So I've got a gsxr 1000 2010 but I'm in Australia
Can you run a flashed ecu and add a power commander?
No point, they both accomplish the same thing. The only reason you'd use one over the other is that not all bikes have a fully customizable ECU like the Suzuki's have and you you would need a power commander to really fiddle with things
07 with 6900 miles either a garage queen or a track bike that had the plastic off all this time lol
Or a lemon that's never ran long enough to put miles on it lol
your intro is too loud, can you change it? my only complaint, i have to lower it everytime the theme comes on, other than that i love the vids
Damn can I buy that 07 its nice as hell
bleu smoke from the exaust....
Damn my 07 1000 with slip-ons, cat delete, k&n filter and a tuned pc5 makes 181hp
@Quentin Richardson pump gas my man
why remove the pc3 and flash a stock ecu ,when the whole reason to fit a pc3, is so you can tune your bike with custom maps ????? plus if you flash the stock ecu ,the only way to change the map is to come to you again ,and pay for another map to be made ,where the pc3 allows you to change maps at home using a laptop while using dynojets , software . so why not make customs maps for the pc3 . so the bike owner can apply customs maps made by you . so if owner has had 3 different maps made for his bike by a tuning shop .he can change his own maps whenever he wants . just load up the stock map back onto the pc3 and start from there. the only reason i could see to remove a pc3 is if its has a fault internally .most places i used for tuning , use the power commander, to but there custom made maps on ,it what its designed for . its programmable ecu .
I want a tune so bad…And it must be a M.M tune!!
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Had my secondary butterflies removed on my 06. And block off plates. It has a pcm5 with the Brock’s map that came with the exhaust. But I do plan to have it flashed next year
2 of my favorite bikes 🔥
I really like your channel so I've watched a lot of your videos.I am a huge R1 fan , so can you please feature the bike (R1) a bit more on the channel i'd really2 appreciate it if you do.Much love and respect from Aizawl, Mizoram;India.
Will do soon
I wonder what friend of his won that bike.
Interesting video, 165hp from a 14 year old bike is decent!
Low miles,mint condition..of coure,the big deal,who was the rider..
Test gsxr 1000k6
Good work 💪
I wish you guys could crack the KTM euro 5's.
Ktm will tune your bike for you the dealership where I'm at has their own Dyno and yes it's a legit ktm dealership called wmr
@@exothermal.sprocket so I'm not exactly sure but my friend just bought a 2020 1290 had them Dyno it made 172 to the wheel after they tuned it
Nice gain in torque on the 1000 but that 750 makes 3hp more than your average 636
On my Dyno it's about 10hp different.
Most 636 make 116-118 on pump gas
@@TeamMooreMafia yeah everything is a factor Dyno the weather that day temperature ECT...
With a real exhaust that 750 should be at the 135 whp range. Chris Moore posted a video of a 750 with a full M4 exhaust.
Can someone help me with my 750?
Great gains on that 1000, for just slip-on and stock filter, that's pretty good.
Most definitely is.. My 2012 made 163 with a full brocks and sprint filter on a baseline pull
Agreed
@@WillyBeamGSXR1k i got 174whp from my k7.. you can see the video in my channel
@@thanosguitarist oh yeah those k7-k8 make good power.. I would have made a little more but come to find out I need to clean my filter out and new plugs.. Did a tune and made 173 but I need a new chain and tires for when I go back for a MR12 tune
I would guess a MM flash would beat a power commander every time. Joe Schmo like me could never get close with a diy tune. And way cheaper.
Just started my dream job at a premier Honda Suzuki dealership 🤟🏽
You think 6,900 miles on an 07 is low mileage, you should see my 07 with 4,600🤙👍💪
So basically all the liter bikes are better/faster than the busa and zx14r now
Pretty much
Nice i need a flash!
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@@TeamMooreMafia im from canada, ontario kitchener, 2021 kawasaki z650
Well worth it. I got my bike flashed by Chris Moore and shipping was extremely fast. I got it within 3 days.
The old 1000 should have a little more hp.
They don't call the 07-08 1000's widowmakers for nothin!
I think you're mistaken that for the 03-04 zx10r
@@BfaltS1K Nope. Def not. You don't see 03-04 zx10r's drag racing and still keeping up with the new bikes.
@@Elizondough well... The '04 - '05 ZX10R is the "WidowMaker" and you haven't been to enough tracks because they keep up pretty well with newer bikes with the proper setup. Facts spoken from a current '05 ZX10R "WidowMaker" owner 👊🏾
Man thats all bikes really
@@BfaltS1K Yep that was the real deal
good job man ;-)
I had that same 1000 bought it with 7600 miles on the clock , second owner, kept it 9 years, put all kinds of aftermarket parts on it , and sold it with 8800 miles on it and to this day I hate myself for selling it
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07 w/ 6900mi, ride that d@mn bike
I have a friend with an 07 1k with 127 miles lol
What state is he in? Thats crazy but why not at least break it in. (Doesnt matter i guess but it isnt broken in at all yet lol) that must be minnnttt though 🔥
@@redline350zHR alabama he bought it rode home it scared him and he parked it
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Thats actually alot weaker than I thought a 750 would be lol
His dyno is not very generous with horsepower readings.
750s are just modded 600s....not even close to 1000s. Even this 1000 is weak. Todays 1000s making 190+
@@2wheelsonly614 I own a v4 SP I. Very aware of what bikes are making
Cleanest Chicken strips I've ever seen.. Lows miles on leans too. .LMAO
Well, elite drivers wouldn't bitch about chicken strips on road bikes... The track is a different matter, but these bikes will never make it there.
@@ichista Only if you can't ride. Anyone can ride in a straight line. LOL
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Mann I want my 08 r1 done by you 🥲
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