How to get MORE snap - Disc Golf
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- This video is going to show you how to get more snap - disc golf, by using your UPPERBODY to use the momentum you've created with your legs, to make that disc SHOOT out of your hand, and flip over down the fairway. 😤🥏
How to get more distance in disc golf is one of the most exciting things new and old players alike think about when they think about improving your game. But when most players think about how to throw farther in disc golf, they think it means tensing up and muscling the disc as hard as you can. This video will not only show you WHY that is costing you distance, but show you HOW you can fix that problem, and I even give you my swing thoughts that free me from muscling up, and allow me to get a SMOOTH, SNAPPY throw every single time.
This video is part two of a series of instructional videos teaching you how to throw the disc harder and more consistently, IF YOU MISSED THE FIRST ONE, here is a link: • HOW TO GET SNAP - Disc... , that video covers the LOWER BODY, which is the foundation for a great throw, and for everything this video covers.
Also, if you haven't seen my other videos, I'm Ben Bennett, and Ben's Big Drive is my journey to making my dream of becoming a professional disc golfer a reality, SUBSCRIBE so that you can follow along with me!!!
The wonderful traditional Scottish Caber Tossing video is from Braemar Media, thanks to them for that footage! - กีฬา
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This was great! Thank you 😀 /Jonathan
No way, thanks so much for watching Jonathan!!
Another excellent video. Others always talk about timing, but this is one of the only videos I’ve seen that actually EXPLAINS what that actually means. Nice work, hope lots of people watch this.
Thanks so much Harris, I appreciate the support!!!
Great explanations. Finally. Someone who can teach people like me who’ve been playing wrong for 5 years how to understand the disc golf throw
Well both you and I have been playing wrong for a long time, I figured it’s time to iron that out 😂 thanks for watching!!
This has to be the best explanation of brace and timing I've ever seen. Keep it up!
Thanks so much Emile, I hope it adds to your game!!
Excellent thoughts, Ben! I really appreciate the info and the analogies you put together!
Thanks Ben and Ben in the booth! This is very useful technical info for me.
This was very helpful!! Thanks!!
Your channel absolutely rules. You're a fantastic person to learn from! Seriously, bravo
Gonna practice this today, appreciate it!
Man you have given me so much insight in these 2 videos that help me understand how the momentum is generating from the lower body. Well done and thank you!
Thanks so much for watching, I’m glad it helped!!
Excellent video with a very great comparison between the wrong and right timing
I found it very interesting that in both form videos the walk-up starts at the same time, the release is at different times, and then in both videos the follow-through ends at the same time. In the video of better form, the pull-through starts later but the follow-through still completes at the same time as the throw where the pull-through started sooner. That makes it really clear that your arm speed is higher in the second video.
I really never saw it that way, that’s such a great observation, it just really drives home the point that arm speed is not about going faster, because if it were with better form and starting at the same time the better one would end earlier. Thanks so much for this, and I’ll be using it as an example when I explain this to people!!
I really find your videos helpful! Thanks for the thorough explanation with video comparison. Thanks Ben!
Thanks so much for reaching out to say that Jimmy!
Great break down and analogy! Thanks
Thanks to you for watching!
Very well done. This is the best technical breakdown of form I have seen. I have understood that my upper pull timing and lower rotation were off but could not explain it to others as well as this video does. Good work!
Thanks so much Zaekyr, that’s super encouraging! I hope it makes you play better!
So useful - Thanks Ben. Great editing.
Thanks so much Brad, I really appreciate that!
dude. this video has so many key points. great job with the editing and effects as well.
Thanks so much man, I really appreciate it!!
Awesome tips here man!
Thanks so much man!!!
GREAT break down, well explained and nice footage.
Thanks so much for watching John!!!
Great info and presented in a understandable way. Much appreciated!
Thanks so much for watching!
Ben that was an amazing breakdown of your release. 🙌🏻
Thanks so much, that means a ton!!!
Very well said. I got somethings to practice
At some point, i've seen tons of videos about this, but you really understand providing a fully detailed version. CLAAAAAAPPING x1000 times.
Thanks so much!!!
2 most helpful videos I have ever seen on timing and x step
That means so much to me, thanks for watching!!
Dude, this and your other video was the BEST tutorial I’ve seen explaining what a good drive looks like.
Yo, thanks so much, that means a ton!! Thanks for watching!!
Great video man! Downloading this one
Awesome man, I hope it helps out your game!!
Excellent explanation. I actually understand what to change now. Great production quality in the video, too!
Thanks so much Ben, I hope it helps!!!
Great video, can't wait to apply this advice
Awesome Mitch, I hope it turns out to improve your game!!
Just found you today Ben (7/22/21). I am # 1000 to like this video. You're doing a great job with the explanations of what you teach, the video looks top notch, and I always love it when someone presents with humor. Keep serious about your goals, but when your subscribers see you having some fun along the way, we will too. It's easy to find and watch pro players, but I'm definitely learning more on channels like yours. I love what they're doing with Jonathan on Latitude 64. Robbie C is another of my favorite DG channels.
Thomas, thanks so much for those kind words, I love comments like this, they really do give me fuel to keep working hard. I’ll try and keep it light, and I truly appreciate your support and hope it helps you greatly!!
This is an awesome video! Ive been consistently hitting 350-370 and am looking for more consistency and with less “muscling the disc”. The idea of throwing your arm through your elbow is suuper intriguing to me! Cant wait to go try this out!
Not muscling up is the key, but I never really understood what that means or how to do it, I think that thought is really what has done it for me! Thanks so much for watching and I hope it adds some feet on that throw!
Excellent series so far. I haven't heard folks communicate these concepts this clearly and succinctly. My shoulder is hurting too lately, most likely because of what's happening here
Trying this out will hopefully take some of that stress off of your shoulder, especially the part about not muscling up too early. Thanks for watching!!
You're smart! Great explanations. Subscribed
Wow, thanks so much Aaron, I appreciate the support!!
This was fantastic. 10/10 sir.
Thanks so much for watching Troy!!
Great video!
Thanks so much for watching Robert!
Subbed, this is really great stuff.
Thanks so much, I appreciate the support!
Wow I never thought before about throwing the arm rather than the disc...I am anxious to try this!
I hope it works out for you! Thanks for watching!
Who are these 8 people who down voted this?
Ben and Ben in the Booth, you guys are killing it. I love the way you break things down. You make it so easy to understand. But the humor is what really keeps me coming back. Please make more videos!!
You have no idea how encouraging comments like these are, it makes me excited to go out and create more! Ben and Ben in the Booth thank you very much!!
great video
Thanks so much Jonne!
This was a great 1-2 combo of videos. I'm a bit late finding it. I think the trick is to discovery the feel of when the momentum of stopping with your right leg reaches your upper body and starts to force the rotation. Timing that up so that it is synchronized instead of early or late seems critical. I'm thinking that the extension of the arm out of the power pocket is going to be almost automatic if you get the timing right. I don't think I'm getting the benefit of my brace right now. I think the disc is ejecting too late and making it harder to rotate on my brace leg. I'm thinking if the disc comes out at "10 pm", then you're starting to slow down when you rotate vs me I'm just releasing the disc so I feel like I"m going to twist my knee out of the socket.
This was some good content. You have a great way of explaining the mechanics - and you're funny! Nice work. Love your logo, too.
Dude. I was maxing out around 325...watched this video and focused on the timing of my reach back and planting my foot and i just threw over 400ft for the first time ever and i was able to do it multiple times. Thank you so much
That’s so awesome man, that’s how big of a difference it makes!!! Thanks so much for watching, I really appreciate it!
This was fantastic. If you plan to do more videos, can I request a standstill throw video?
This is just the beginning, and I’ll put it on the list! Thanks so much for watching!
Awesome work! Makes a lot of sense. Would be very interesting to see your take at standstills and the transition to the walk up! I see so many people recommend starting with standstills.
Thanks so much Thomas for this comment, in 100% honesty I am not very good at backhand standstills but all the more reason to dive into how they can improve the overall backhand throw!! Thanks so much for the suggestion!
@@BensBigDrive You're welcome. Keep up the great work!
Great video! Also a good tip to avoid muscling the disc, is to use fan grip instead of power grip, atleast while trying to correct the mistake. Squeezing the disc hard often leads to tensing up the whole arm.
That’s a great idea, I have never thought about that! I might just have to try that out in the field!
That's meee! Don't run through your brace. Don't let your arm rip until front foot is stopped and braced. Once you've felt it you completely know when you did not do it.!
great stuff!!
Great explanations! Like everyone else says, best form breakdowns I’ve seen. When are you going to start your nationwide in person clinic tour?!? :)
I'll start touring clinics the moment someone sponsors them 😂 Thanks so much, i really appreciate it!
Thx : )
Thanks
Hope you enjoyed!!
Thank you for a great video...do you have tips for how to work on the timing for the reach back to slow it down and ensure you do not reach back too early? Thanks in advance!!
Great question and thanks for watching!! First thing is video yourself. You have to see the problem frame by frame before fixing it. Secondly, look at Paul mcbeth’s form, during his x-step, he actually extends his disc forward before going backwards and reaching back. This adds just that little bit of time before he reaches back to make sure he’s always timed correctly. I would try that out in the field, it might introduce some inconsistency but at least try it as a drill to get the thought in your head. Lastly, search “one step drill disc golf” on TH-cam and watch the loop ghost video about feet together/one step drills and follow his awesome advice. I hope this helps!
I think I've watched every 'how to video' on the internet, and yet, here I am, still learning new things from you. I incorporated your first video about holding your plant foot through the throw, and I saw a big increase in my distance. I look forward to working on this part of my throw next, thank you.
That’s so awesome man, I really appreciate and hope that you keep getting better!! 👊
Great video! What would you say is the difference in distance between the two throws in the video?
Easily at least 100ft., and on a way better line. It’s really key!
I watched your video on the lower body (hips) opening before the shoulders, and then did some field work today. I actually had a glimpse (small breakthrough) of feeling more effortless or real power due to better timing. Towards the end of the fieldwork, watching my shadow on the ground, I noticed that I was so focused on the hip (and also letting my disc hang to limit arm tension) that I forgot about hitting with the elbow. . What do you know, now I find this video which speaks to the same concept. I have athletic hips from playing sports and ball golf, but man its really hard to coordinate that lower hip timing with your upper body. Its so strange to allow your upper body to lag - I had to literally slow down before each throw and do several "hip openings". I'm still not bracing enough against that right leg, but man - good videos and great visualizations!!! I've been playing 4-5 years now, and can throw 350, or 400 if I really get into it.... that next leap to truly throw 450+, takes so much work because for most normal sized people, you're doing that through truly proper timing and technique.
Question - I was wondering if the timing or feeling that real snap is kinda like an ollie (or other unusual motion) in skateboarding. Seems so hard at first but once you feel it and get it, your body is just able to do it like second nature.
Thanks so much for watching and trying it out! The ollie analogy is great, the thing is it's a process of fixing one thing at a time until it becomes natural, and then fix the next thing, so on and so forth!
I learned that I'm a semi truck and should get into caber tossing. But seriously I'll give these tips a try and really try to train to do it, thanks!
Hey, let me know how the caber tossing goes! Thanks so much for watching!
Great video man! Question though: I know the timing of the reach back with my lower body is my problem because I see my timing when I take slow-mo videos and I'm definitely pulling too early. However, I have tried countless videos and drills from many different TH-camrs (including loopghost) and I'm having a really hard time correcting the timing. Any suggestions?
This is a great question and something I have trouble with as well. Check out this video from Overthrow Disc Golf about the reachback that I think is super interesting and makes a lot of sense: th-cam.com/video/TAk4zkqfmEs/w-d-xo.html
Do you have any drills to practice getting into the pocket and pulling fast not hard?
Can we revisit this??
What is the difference between throwing hard and fast?
That beat slaps ;)
It also “bumps”, if you will ;)
@@BensBigDrive ayyyyy this guy over here!
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Thanks for this. I'm right on that cusp of breaking 400' and i just need to tighten up my form a bit (not literally).
Edit: I find that i always spin on the front of my foot instead of the heel. I'm not sure how to fix this, but i've been trying. :)
It feels so weird to try to rotate on the heel to me!
Do some 360s (without a disc in hand) on your toe and then do some 360s on your heel. You will feel where your center of gravity needs to be to effectively spin on your heel. Hope this helps!
@@VikIsLost Thank you so much! I will give this a try.
@@robcrossett5417 Victor had a great suggestion, I would say that the more in control and behind your momentum your pull thru is, the easier it will be to rotate on your heel because you won’t be going as fast. Also making sure that you don’t life the toe before you release, will keep you from rotating early and that’ll make it much easier as well. Hope it helps, and thanks for watching!!
That rotation happens only in the follow through. If you are following through on the ball of your foot rather than the heel, you had your weight to far forward on the release and therefore, lost power.
Focus on getting your weight distribution correct and forget about the follow through rotation. The follow through is a symptom, not the issue.
Where do I go to sign up for lessons? I’m based out of Arizona if you don’t mind to drive
I’ll just stop by on my way home, be there in 17 hours ok?
Got any products yet?
I'm new to disc golf and have recently read that the disc is supposed to actually "rip" from your hand. Hold it tight, and the momentum of the pull thru and wrist snap should physically rip the disc from your grasp.
Every instructional video says "release" the disc.
Releasing implies that you are LETTING GO of something.
So do you "release", as in let go, or does it actually rip from your firm grip?
And if it's supposed to actually rip from your hand, would that not create a lot of extra friction thus slowing the disc?
Everyone says grip it like you don't want someone to be able to pull it out of your hands. Well, I've got quite a powerful grip. Not even Eagles powerful arm speed and wrist snap would be able to rip a disc out of my grip unless I intentionally either let go, OR loosened my grip.
Any clarification would be helpful.
To add, I've only gone out throwing a few times. About 4 hours total. Also played 2 local courses with a friend who helped get me into the sport.
I went from 100-150' and hyzering the bejeezers out of everything my first time out, to hitting 300', pretty consistently and fairly accurately, and ONCE just shy of 400' on a drive in this short time. All of my throws have been released, and not physically ripped from my grip by the momentum.
Coming from a baseball pitching background at no point does a baseball throw ever RIP from your grip. That would certainly cause major accuracy issues, and also slow the ball down due to friction.
There must be a clear cut answer in disc golf also, but no one really clarifies it. Everyone just says release...release at 10 O-Clock.
I've been releasing and it's, so far, been working for me.
Can you clarify?
Added 30 extra feet consistently just doing this. But for some reason I started throwing it more off axis and into the sky. Which is encouraging because even with those added mistakes... It's going further lol
Hey bit by bit, I’m super glad it’s going farther for you!!
Hey Ben, I watched the first video about Snap and worked on planting the front foot today but it added Annie to my throw. Could that be a symptom of moving the top half of my body too fast?
Thanks for watching Tyler, without seeing you throw I would say it’s a combination of pulling thru too fast and you’re elbow coming too close to your body in the pull-thru, which will cause rounding an give it an anny release. The angle from the shoulder to the elbow should never be less than 90 degrees, there’s a great Danny Lindhal video about rounding you should watch. I hope that helps!
@@BensBigDrive I'll have to check that video out. Thanks for the reply!
Yo! You are really pedagogical when explaining things. Gj. Maybe make a discord server?
Thanks so much, I appreciate that! Hahaha I would have to figure out how discord works first 😂
There is most likely some people who subscribe or watch your videos who would help with that hehe :) Maybe ask for help at the start or end of your next video or something. Would be cool with a disc golf community.
hi there i did this with elbow along time and if i do that i ending up with elbow 180 degree and no shoulder turn so it become armstrong only, when do the shoulder turn in this thinking of leading with the elbow, its getting frustrated... now i work with the hips and start rotate them when i hit full extension, feels like more momentum.
That’s great to hear, I hope you keep getting better and better!
what i ment was, what should i do, rotate hip or the leg so it activate the hip so it rotate automatic or should i continue start the hip rotation , i think i loss momentum, what start the hip to rotate, how does is happen, ?
How far do you throw?
400 is a great pull for me!
What is the difference between the distance of the two drives.
Easily 75 ft. And much more control!
Wow, that's a huge difference
Your balance is still a little off. You begin looking back halfway through the x in your x step. Eyes should be on the target until your plant foot as crossed over your x-step foot before the plant. This creates proper balance which is necessary for proper timing of the hips engaging before the shoulders, and an effective weightshift. I guarantee once you start doing this you will feel more momentum and power being translated into the weightshift that will translate to the disc.
This is a great point, I am still working on timing it perfectly and I’m still slightly early, but I appreciate the suggestion and I am working to dial it in!!
I can throw 330. Hopefully I'll reach like 380 with the help of your tips!
I think you definitely can!
LETS GOOOOOO
Well thought out comment, thanks for watching!
I'm out in a big open field at my local park good Lord my grip locking sucks but Jesus is that helping I'm getting way further and if I could just aim right then it's golden thank you for the explanation it was very good
Hey Robin, there's somewhat of a part 3 video up on my channel about using the hips that address the grip lock issue, check it out and see if that helps!
@@BensBigDrive hey thanks for that I'm going to look into it I seem to always griplock when I'm trying to throw too hard if I calm down a bit and maybe throw it like 80% of my power I usually have good accuracy it's the same with pitching baseball's I've had it since I was a kid once I put the beans on it it seems to go a little wonky but I do really appreciate you for getting back to me like that that was really cool and I will watch your other video and most likely a lot more
@@robinraphael of course dude, I’m happy to help!! And that’s with anything athletic, the harder you exert yourself the more room for error there is, and slowing it down will always help get that form right. I definitely need to learn that lesson myself as well
Hey Ben, thank you for your last 2 Videos! I tried it on the field and already could increase my distance by 100ft or so :) The one thing I noticed in your drive though is your left arm not streched out like it should be for an optimal drive. Did you already noticed that and/or are you going to work on that?
100ft?! That’s insane, I’m glad it’s helping! And great point about the left arm, I’ve known it for a while, but I’ve been waiting for the off-season to work on something like that just so that I’m not changing things up too drastically mid-season. But thanks for the suggestion, I love getting tips like that!
@@BensBigDrive Yeah, I think it helped my timing a lot and it was one of my biggest problems, now it is much better and I keep working on it. I am pumped to see where your journey will take you, be sure that I will follow you along that way watching your videos :)
Forehand next?
Oooooo not a bad idea 👀
Look at the pin till you reach back
Great tip, I'm working on it! Thanks for watching!
physics!
I see you also switched your phone from your left pocket to your right. Did you get popped 😳
Seriously though great tutorial 👌
Okay, I followed this advice and now I'm too powerful. Flat shots with a fairway driver are rollers now.
Guess it's time to learn some control.
Always remember, with great power comes great responsibility. You must learn to harness your new powers.
(Bad example slow-motion. 1:49) (Better example slow-motion. 3:30) (Side by side slow-motion 3:50 Better example on left, bad example on right)
That intro tho
We keep it respectful here on Ben’s Bug Drive
you need to make a BBQ sauce and call it Ben's Big Sauce. Just sayin.
Also I love how you explain things. its very easy to understand and implement. Thanks!
Staying off your heels will help you and it'll keep you from tearing an acl
Objective #1 of throwing: don’t tear an acl
Really wanted to hear him say "Hey! My hyzer up here."
This is why Calvin Heimburg can rip it miles. He's whole body is a rubber band.
He is literally a walking rubber band made for slinging discs
Slingshot Vinny
Damn, what happened too you AngryPicnic?
Just be careful not to chicken wing when leading with elbow. As in don't let the elbow go too far ahead of rotation.
Exactly, great tip!
I think the phone in pocket effected the first throw