Hey, Big Ben, I'm a retired music teacher, so I know about teaching. You have a great future as a disc golf teacher. This is your calling. Your delivery is great. You look at the camera. You talk slowly enough so people can understand. Your videos are engaging and fun to watch. You seem to have a way of getting to the heart of the matter and helping to correct exactly what I'm doing wrong. I've watched video after video over the past year and a half and I still can't get much farther than 300 feet on my best drives. But I just practiced throwing indoors using a towel after watching this video, and I can feel the added power immediately! I'm 215 lbs and fairly muscular for my age, so I know that if I get my weight behind the throw, I should be able to throw it way longer than I am throwing it now. Thanks so much and wishing you continued success!
Andrew man, first of all thanks for being a teacher, I’m convinced teachers are the best people in the world. And your comment is so nice man, like so meaningful that I won’t ever forget it. I appreciate you so much man, and I really hope that it helps your game. I appreciate you!
You have finally explained what no one ever has, or has tried and failed to explain. Honestly I gave up on advice videos but this has actually explained how to engage the hips! Thank you!
Literally stood up, used my hips to pull my arm through and wabaam! I feel it! Like everyone else has mentioned, great video explanation and thank you for putting this together! Easiest "Subscribe" moment ever.
Hi ! I've only played discgolf for 3 months, been addicted to form videos and guides eversince trying to get the hang of my x-step and armspeed..But I believe this is the winner for me, thanks :)
This video clarified many things for me. Rotating hips with my arm is exactly what I have been doing for years. Now I need to find good exercises to unlearn that bad habit!
Such a big help! My friends taught me how to play and unfortunately taught me that a strong fast arm is the key to big distance. Being a 5'2" female, that had me maxing out at ~175 ft. I've been doing hip drills for two days and am already at 230 ft consistently. With more practice and better timing, I hope I can hit 300 this year!
I also do my form video binge watching around midnight, and I’m always pumped up to go to the field 😂😂 but thanks so much for watching, I really hope it helps!!
I was literally thinking about this during my round this morning. I knew I was throwing with just my arm, but I couldn't fix it on my own. Perfect timing for this excellent content! Thank you!
Brilliant, just brilliant. The best teachers are the ones who have to put the time and effort into figuring out the idiosyncrasies that natural athletes take for granted.
Everyone commending you is correct. Your understanding->breakdown->explication->demo is unreal. Watching your videos I feel this surge of insight like I finally genuinely understand WHY certain mechanics are in there, and like I can do it myself. You will become the biggest disc golf instruction channel within a couple years and it is deserved.
As someone who played golf competitively, and knows how to hit the ball with power, there's a lot of parallels between a golf swing and disc throw as far as using your hips, pulling through with some lag to generate the most power. I just had a tendency to keep my arm straight, which you do want with a golf swing, but not with a disc throw as it caused rounding and made it impossible to time my throw right. Pulling through the power pocket is where it's at, and practice.
Ben. That was genius. For a trillion years I have hit and thrown with that exact hip principle through the power pocket release quick snap smooth follow through. Only I was hitting a tennis ball with a stickball bat pin straight 300 feet down a narrow side street. Played a ton of ball over a few decades and then golf and now I have been disc golfing half a year. You just reminded me of the one thing I have had all these years and yet have been missing on most of my drives. It is exactly the same concept. Gonna focus on that tomorrow AM on the course. Its all in the hips. Its all in the hips.
Hey Bill, thank you so much for saying that!!! It’s really all the hips, i grew up playing baseball and it’s the exact same thing, as it turns out a powerful motion in sports is always a powerful motion in sports. Thanks so much for your comment, and I hope you have some good results tomorrow!!
I've been playing for years and this is 100% my biggest problem. I absolutely cannot figure out how to lead with my hips. This video laid out out really well though. I'm excited to get out and practice this tomorrow. Thanks for the helpful video!
@@deadraider420 Honestly it's still not going great. I'm finding it difficult to deliberately lead with my hips in the microseconds between my plant and my throw. If I try to slow it down it looks comical and feels forced, and the disc goes nowhere. It's going to require a lot more practice.
as long as the video has been up probably has been said but having a friend along to record or using a tripod recording yourself is extremely helpful!! keep up the great vids Ben!
@@BensBigDrive I actually started focusing on my left arm and using it to help rotate my body and i threw my furthest drive 455ft! just gotta keep practicing!
This was the video that finally clicked for me. I've been playing since June and just hit 362 today. Previous best was 325, so this is putting me on the right track for 400!
I hear you. I just graduated from 300-330 yesterday to 330-350 from feeling into driving my nondominant shoulder around as well and giving it some James Conrad drive exaggeration. Just drilling to feel trap tension like he points out in another of his videos in my living room, I can already feel how this will engage more whippiness potential for sure. Combined with using hips to lead shoulder rotation and noodle-arming thru the power pocket I have a good feeling about breaking 350 soon.
Robbie isn't that great of a coach, not to mention a huge phoney. I don't know if you remember but he had a video where he asked for people that wanted help with their form to reach out. I think cool. So I grab some footage and slowed it down. Contacted him, he responded nice enough. Told him I could use some help with my form and sent him the video. He sees it almost immediately, says nothing. 2 days later I message him and say, what do you think? He replied back, are you looking for a form critique? I think to myself, that's what you called out for in your video, what we talked about, and why I sent a video. But I said, yeah, I could really use some help. He replied with something like, "looks like you're shifting incorrectly" I asked what drills I should do etc. He saw and never responded to the message. This is one reason I don't like to interact with people I like/admire on TH-cam, insta etc cause they're never what they appear to be. I really thought he was going to jump in and really try to help me. Only in retrospect, to realize, he's trying to cultivate this really friendly, great guy image to sell his channel, but it's not who he really is
@@BensBigDrive you did a great job explaining the finer points behind the mechanics of it, tried it during my round today and when I was able to get the timing right it gave me some great distance
Been stuck at 300'-320' for 2 years now. I've tried so many different tips and this is the only one that has actually made a difference. Still getting the hang of it (accuracy is down), but distance is definitely up. Hole 1 at my home course is a 300' moderately uphill drive that I've always been short on. I finally got within putting range. This is definitely going to be hard to master, though.
You caught me with the hook on this video. I have been practicing general form at the soccer field for a couple of weeks, watching videos, studying pros. Yesterday I downloaded Udisc just to see how much distance I could get through a standstill cause I thought I was making progress and I threw a dinky 235ft. I knew I wasn't getting enough force through my lower body so found this video and now I feel I've got another good starting point to go and hit the field with again. Here's wishing for a few more feet! I've got a personal mission to hit 300 from a standstill before I go play my first round. Thanks for the video! Super well produced - I dig the lighting in your set.
Big Ben- You're mostly correct in your explanation, especially when I consider how I've watched pros try to explain this and are completely wrong... and I mean completely wrong. So I'm impressed with how you have discovered what you have, simply by watching videos and having no formal training. However, understanding the combination of ground forces, and rotational forces and the timing of them in kinesthetic power movement is a lifetime of work. You do understand that hips lead the swing, however, you do not yet understand the difference between passive hip rotation and explosive ground force rotational movement. The latter generating as much as 5x more rotational speed. Hard to explain, without showing you. All this to say, there's still way more for you to gain. You are on the right track, you seem to be a fantastic human being! Keep learning!!
I immediately tried this in my living room with a rag after watching the video, and HOLY SMOKES! I CAN FEEL THE POWER! I want to give you a big smooch and a hug for this tip. Can't wait to go practice on the field later! Thank you SO MUCH!
@@BensBigDrive The field work didn't go as expected, however I reached the same lengths I did previously (260 feet with a midrange) with a lot of less effort, or at least that's what it felt like. Going to need to practice this a lot more to unlearn the muscle memory of previous timing, but I think it's definitely going to improve my game in the long run. Thanks again :D
This is one of the best explanations I’ve ever heard. I’ve been plateaued around 250 ft my whole life... can’t wait to try incorporate what i heard here. Great video bro! 👍
I've been throwing for a couple months now and have watched pretty much every disc golf video on youtube. I was still only getting around 180' maybe 200' on a good day. It was becoming frustrating. I watched this video and went out next day. This video put it all together. My throws increased by a hundred feet almost instantly, AND a big plus, my shoulder doesn't hurt.
Your explanation of why some athletes can naturally throw further than I can after playing for so long (looking at you Brody) makes so much sense. Thank you for this video, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that this video is a huge gift to the amateur disc golf scene. Subbed
this was the best video ive seen on how to control your body in whcih ones move first and when to use thr speed etc.. i think the last bit of perfecting will be getting the right leg straightened out instead of slightly bent at the throw
Bro, this is the best explanation of the backhand I've ever seen! I've watched tons of them. This breakdown is better than any top pro has ever done! Thank you.
I need to loosen up before muscling up!!! Dude..I needed this reminded..I lost some distance recently and you just described what I'm doing wrong! Not all of it but I was consciously thinking about the reach back.
aaaand now I figured out why my lower right back hurts after throwing "far" (100m, or ~330ft). I use my hips, but really just throw with my arm. All of the energy from my hips are stopped by my front foot. I have a wicked slapshot in ice hockey, can throw a baseball pretty fast, and all of that power comes from the legs (or the hips), so this makes perfect sense. Thank you!
Wow! Ben! This advice so important! I’ve watched so many videos trying to figure out what I am doing wrong and you hit the mail on the head with this one! Great job! Love your videos!
Best thing I can tell anyone in addition is to understand full flight patterns. You cannot expect to get a disc to get you maximum flight when you are not reaching the discs required speed to get a full flight. Slowing down your selection of disc can in some circumstances increase your maximum distance if you are not correctly utilizing the higher speed disc. Which I see incredibly often in people attempting to throw max distance. A 7-9 Speed disc when thrown correctly for its full flight pattern and then even you throwing it a little over speed can translate to an easy 400 foot drive. Which will show you how much potential you have for even faster discs when you can reach those speeds. 12-13 speeds should be in the 450+ range. Don't even touch them for distance if you can't get a 7 speed over 350.
First time its been explained in a way that i feel like i understand what ive been doing wrong. I literally just tried it in my living room (no disc of course) and for the first time i felt that pocket, that sweet spot, the hit box, and so many other ways others have tried to explain it. Cant wait to put this into practice.
Your comparison between the two throws was the last bit of information I needed to exit my plateau. Thank you so much for this video! Went out and beat the 330 feet mark with a midrange for the first time ever!
Thank you. You explained that perfectly for something I couldn’t put together in my stroke. Subbed and looking forward to checking out more of your content.
Thousandth like. Your comparison video showing the disc lag is on point. Your explanation for how to achieve it is too. Spin and throw disc golf posted a video analyzing Donaldson's swing, and Donaldson also says to keep hands and arm muscles relaxed while engaging the hips which is the same conclusion you came to. Nice work!
EXCELLENT video. The tip at the end of holding the disc relaxed (Ricky Wysocki actually does this when he throws) to help teach your upper body to not outpace the hips - or be rotating at the same time (which I think I've been doing forever) - is pure gold. Please do a part 2 to this video talking more about getting that timing of planting right foot, opening hips, and then when to start actually snapping. I find myself having a hard time knowing / sensing the delayed timing from lower body to then when the shoulders are rotating and then your arm/elbow is snapping.
Thanks so much for your comment, I have been mulling over ideas and researching drills to make this concept click, and that’s an awesome suggestion for a part two!! Thanks so much!
Great tips Ben! I love the part about slowing down. I figured that out last week and it was nice to hear someone else say it too. Now, if I can get the other parts in the relay to connect consistently... practice practice practice...
I was a thrower in high school for track and field the first thing we ever worked on was getting in that stance where your arm is all the way back getting ready to lead with your hips. However, we would turn our ankles first. This creates even more tension in your hips and accelerates them faster forward. Just getting back in that stance and holding it while you turn your ankles and feel the tension building in your hips helps. Then adding bring the hips through, then adding the release. Once we mastered each step we brought it all together and would throw our shot or discus. It’s great help. Work on the ankle turns and hopefully you see how it helps and make a video on it.
Watched a ton of these and still suck off the tee. This is the first time I have seen it explained like this. Can’t wait to try out. Hopefully I won’t suck off the tee anymore. Thanks bud!!
I've just started to make a real hip turn, and that's helped a lot with distance, but I know my timing is a weakness. This "One Rule" thing made me approach with skepticism, but I think it was very well illustrated and has a lot of truth to it.
I also hate “one quick fix” vids, but I really just don’t think 400ft is possible if you’re throwing all arms (and if it is, you could be throwing so much further 😂) but thanks for the support!!!
I’ve been working on form for MONTHS, and nobody could articulate how this was my problem. I went in the field after this video and literally went from 300-385’ in one hour. Can’t wait to make this a habit and get above 400’ easy! Thanks for the great video
Hey David, thanks so much for your comment and it thrills me that you actually gained some distance from trying this out!! Do you mind if I use your comment on a website I am building? Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks Ben! Wow, this makes so much more sense to me now. I can't wait to hit the course and practice. BTW, you have amazing instruction videos, I've watched a few others too.
This is such a good video! I've never really heard it explained for people who don't do it at all, just for people who don't do it right or enough. I don't know how well or how quickly I'll actually implement it, but that's on my coordination, not the lesson.
I can't wait to practice with this in mind. What I see is you keep your shoulders turned back until you get your hips turned to parallel with your line. Paying attention to the tension in your upper arm as the trigger is a great idea.
Wow Big Ben you hit the nail right on the head on explaining the mechanics of the hips for a throw. Now I know exactly what I was doing wrong. I loved the analogy of the relay race, really to the point. Going to the field tomorrow and put those mechanics in my throws. Oh and by the way I'm new to disc golf, just started last year so your videos are helping me a lot. Ty for your awesome Disc Golf content.
Great video. Just enjoyed another one of your newer videos where you talked about stopping your plant foot and keeping a straightish leg. I see your leg is rather bent here or am i wrong?
This is the hardest technique by far to learn in discgolf, and no one has ever explained HOW to actually learn it of all the vids that are out there. I feel its all about trying to learn the muscle memory, and you are the first to have given hands on advice on what to do specifically with your body and what to think of. The biggest challenge of learning this, is that people dont know what its suppose to actually feel like to try and rotate your hip before your ”relaxed” arm, that just keeps the disc in position. What muscels should you focus on to rotate the hips for example? And how can you help with your legs and feet to improve hip rotation? I feel there is more to say on this topic. Anyways, well said brother!
I love this, it is really hard to portray what this “feels” like, but that’s an awesome topic to dive into for another video. Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you! This was a Great lesson and pep talk at the same time for me! I love your way of shearing the facts and still have fun! Great, thanks again! 😎👌
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Hey, Big Ben, I'm a retired music teacher, so I know about teaching. You have a great future as a disc golf teacher. This is your calling. Your delivery is great. You look at the camera. You talk slowly enough so people can understand. Your videos are engaging and fun to watch. You seem to have a way of getting to the heart of the matter and helping to correct exactly what I'm doing wrong. I've watched video after video over the past year and a half and I still can't get much farther than 300 feet on my best drives. But I just practiced throwing indoors using a towel after watching this video, and I can feel the added power immediately! I'm 215 lbs and fairly muscular for my age, so I know that if I get my weight behind the throw, I should be able to throw it way longer than I am throwing it now. Thanks so much and wishing you continued success!
Andrew man, first of all thanks for being a teacher, I’m convinced teachers are the best people in the world. And your comment is so nice man, like so meaningful that I won’t ever forget it. I appreciate you so much man, and I really hope that it helps your game. I appreciate you!
@@BensBigDrive You're welcome. Thanks for appreciating me.
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@H K I was wondering if he's a powerful musician...and if he plays the towel.
Is that a banjo?
That track and field analogy gave me chills because that made perfect sense 🤯🤯🤯🤯
You have finally explained what no one ever has, or has tried and failed to explain. Honestly I gave up on advice videos but this has actually explained how to engage the hips! Thank you!
Thanks so much, I hope it helps you crush!
I hope your channel blows up 🤯Your teaching skills are impeccable 👏👏👏. Well done!
Finally found the best video on how to engage the hips! Very well explained. Greetings from Finland.
Thanks so much for watching, and I love hearing from my Nordic peeps!!
I hardly ever subscribe to anyone, but I had to sub after this great explanation. I'm going to put it into practice tomorrow on the course.
Hey Matt, I appreciate the support, and I hope that it helps your game!!!
Literally stood up, used my hips to pull my arm through and wabaam! I feel it! Like everyone else has mentioned, great video explanation and thank you for putting this together! Easiest "Subscribe" moment ever.
Hahaha, “wabaam” is EXACTLY how you should feel doing this correctly, thanks so much for watching and especially subscribing!!!
This is an absolutely excellent video. Wow. Literally the first easy to understand explanation of timing. Nice job dude 👍👏👏
Thanks Harris, I appreciate your support!!!
Hi ! I've only played discgolf for 3 months, been addicted to form videos and guides eversince trying to get the hang of my x-step and armspeed..But I believe this is the winner for me, thanks :)
This video clarified many things for me. Rotating hips with my arm is exactly what I have been doing for years. Now I need to find good exercises to unlearn that bad habit!
Such a big help! My friends taught me how to play and unfortunately taught me that a strong fast arm is the key to big distance. Being a 5'2" female, that had me maxing out at ~175 ft. I've been doing hip drills for two days and am already at 230 ft consistently. With more practice and better timing, I hope I can hit 300 this year!
Did you ever hit your goal?
Watching this at 11:40 PM is a bummer. I want to try this immediately. Thank you!
I also do my form video binge watching around midnight, and I’m always pumped up to go to the field 😂😂 but thanks so much for watching, I really hope it helps!!
I actually bought my first glow discs for that same reason lol. Always feeling relaxed and eager to throw late at night.
I was literally thinking about this during my round this morning. I knew I was throwing with just my arm, but I couldn't fix it on my own. Perfect timing for this excellent content! Thank you!
Thanks so much for watching!!!
Brilliant, just brilliant. The best teachers are the ones who have to put the time and effort into figuring out the idiosyncrasies that natural athletes take for granted.
Thanks so much Daniel, I really appreciate this!!
Everyone commending you is correct. Your understanding->breakdown->explication->demo is unreal. Watching your videos I feel this surge of insight like I finally genuinely understand WHY certain mechanics are in there, and like I can do it myself. You will become the biggest disc golf instruction channel within a couple years and it is deserved.
As someone who played golf competitively, and knows how to hit the ball with power, there's a lot of parallels between a golf swing and disc throw as far as using your hips, pulling through with some lag to generate the most power. I just had a tendency to keep my arm straight, which you do want with a golf swing, but not with a disc throw as it caused rounding and made it impossible to time my throw right. Pulling through the power pocket is where it's at, and practice.
This is the video I've been looking for! So many people say "engage your hips" but don't explain how. This is super helpful!
Thanks so much Josh, I hope it helps you form click!!
Wow. Been watching form videos for months and months and this is the one I needed.
Thanks so much John, I hope it helps you get better!
Ben. That was genius. For a trillion years I have hit and thrown with that exact hip principle through the power pocket release quick snap smooth follow through. Only I was hitting a tennis ball with a stickball bat pin straight 300 feet down a narrow side street. Played a ton of ball over a few decades and then golf and now I have been disc golfing half a year. You just reminded me of the one thing I have had all these years and yet have been missing on most of my drives. It is exactly the same concept. Gonna focus on that tomorrow AM on the course. Its all in the hips. Its all in the hips.
Hey Bill, thank you so much for saying that!!! It’s really all the hips, i grew up playing baseball and it’s the exact same thing, as it turns out a powerful motion in sports is always a powerful motion in sports. Thanks so much for your comment, and I hope you have some good results tomorrow!!
After watching this incredibly informative video, when I play 18 holes tomorrow, I'm pretty sure that I'm going to Ace......ALL 18 HOLES!
Looking forward to trying this after work. Everybody has brought up using your hips, but no one ever explained to me when to engage them and how.
Dude it makes so much sense now! Thank you!
I've been playing for years and this is 100% my biggest problem. I absolutely cannot figure out how to lead with my hips. This video laid out out really well though. I'm excited to get out and practice this tomorrow. Thanks for the helpful video!
Awesome, I hope it helps! Thanks so much for watching!!
What he said. :)
Or she
How’s the results?
@@deadraider420 Honestly it's still not going great. I'm finding it difficult to deliberately lead with my hips in the microseconds between my plant and my throw. If I try to slow it down it looks comical and feels forced, and the disc goes nowhere. It's going to require a lot more practice.
You might be the first person to do a hips video that is actually correct! This is a lot of help to the Disc golf community, Thank you man!
Thanks so much dude, I really appreciate that!! Thanks for watching!
Great video! The slomo and comparing the two examples side by side was very helpful.
Thanks so much for watching Mr. Beastie, I hope it helped!
I've never heard of it put this way in how to engage your hips. Very clear and concise explanation and I think it clicked now. Thanks!
Awesome, thanks for watching!!
I'm been stuck at about 320-350ft. Time to put in some field work focusing on this hip rotation. Hoping it's the key! Great video, good job.
as long as the video has been up probably has been said but having a friend along to record or using a tripod recording yourself is extremely helpful!! keep up the great vids Ben!
Thank you so much Gio, I hope you continue to see progress!!
@@BensBigDrive I actually started focusing on my left arm and using it to help rotate my body and i threw my furthest drive 455ft! just gotta keep practicing!
You are best teacher for this.
This was the video that finally clicked for me. I've been playing since June and just hit 362 today. Previous best was 325, so this is putting me on the right track for 400!
Awesome dude, 40ft. is a huge jump, I hope it keeps going up!!
I hear you. I just graduated from 300-330 yesterday to 330-350 from feeling into driving my nondominant shoulder around as well and giving it some James Conrad drive exaggeration. Just drilling to feel trap tension like he points out in another of his videos in my living room, I can already feel how this will engage more whippiness potential for sure. Combined with using hips to lead shoulder rotation and noodle-arming thru the power pocket I have a good feeling about breaking 350 soon.
This is a really high quality video that called me out on something I didnt even know I was doing. Keep up the good content my man
Thanks so much, I really appreciate that!
Fantastic video man, you're great at explaining this.
Just like lag in ball golf! Great video man!
Thanks for the cheat codes Ben, your videos are insanely awesome and funny to boot
Thanks so much Ry Guy, I really appreciate that!!!
Great illustration at 10:17. I appreciate you were able to replicate the "bad version" and have a perfect apples-to-apples picture.
Thanks so much Ryan, the side by side is always the best teaching tool!
Robbie kind of touched on this concept with the "second gear" on the pull through. This is a solid explanation on how it works, great stuff.
Robbie isn't that great of a coach, not to mention a huge phoney.
I don't know if you remember but he had a video where he asked for people that wanted help with their form to reach out.
I think cool. So I grab some footage and slowed it down. Contacted him, he responded nice enough. Told him I could use some help with my form and sent him the video. He sees it almost immediately, says nothing. 2 days later I message him and say, what do you think?
He replied back, are you looking for a form critique?
I think to myself, that's what you called out for in your video, what we talked about, and why I sent a video.
But I said, yeah, I could really use some help. He replied with something like, "looks like you're shifting incorrectly"
I asked what drills I should do etc. He saw and never responded to the message.
This is one reason I don't like to interact with people I like/admire on TH-cam, insta etc cause they're never what they appear to be. I really thought he was going to jump in and really try to help me. Only in retrospect, to realize, he's trying to cultivate this really friendly, great guy image to sell his channel, but it's not who he really is
I really like the concept of a second gear, it's all about engaging and adding power at the right time rather than all at once. And Robby is the man!!
@@BensBigDrive no, he isn't
@@BensBigDrive you did a great job explaining the finer points behind the mechanics of it, tried it during my round today and when I was able to get the timing right it gave me some great distance
@@Linky609 that’s so great to hear, I’m hype it added some D!!
You've got an incredible talent for explaining this stuff simply. Love your videos.
Thank you so much, that means a ton to me!
Yeah I watch a lot of these and this is the best explanation I've found + super well composed and produced video.
Wow thanks so much johnathan, I really do appreciate that! Thanks for your support!
Been stuck at 300'-320' for 2 years now. I've tried so many different tips and this is the only one that has actually made a difference. Still getting the hang of it (accuracy is down), but distance is definitely up. Hole 1 at my home course is a 300' moderately uphill drive that I've always been short on. I finally got within putting range. This is definitely going to be hard to master, though.
This helped me a lot, thank you 👍
Great content, and an excellent perspective. Thank you for all your hard work ☺️
You caught me with the hook on this video.
I have been practicing general form at the soccer field for a couple of weeks, watching videos, studying pros.
Yesterday I downloaded Udisc just to see how much distance I could get through a standstill cause I thought I was making progress and I threw a dinky 235ft.
I knew I wasn't getting enough force through my lower body so found this video and now I feel I've got another good starting point to go and hit the field with again.
Here's wishing for a few more feet! I've got a personal mission to hit 300 from a standstill before I go play my first round.
Thanks for the video! Super well produced - I dig the lighting in your set.
This makes a ton of sense.
Thanks for watching Justin!!
Awesome explanation!!!! Can’t wait to get out and try this in the field!!!
Thanks so much, I hope you get something out of it!!
I don't care if you ever put out another video to help me, THIS is worth subscribing!
It makes sense. I'll be putting this into practice ASAP. Thanks!
You're the man, I hope it helps your game! Thanks for the support!
Big Ben- You're mostly correct in your explanation, especially when I consider how I've watched pros try to explain this and are completely wrong... and I mean completely wrong. So I'm impressed with how you have discovered what you have, simply by watching videos and having no formal training. However, understanding the combination of ground forces, and rotational forces and the timing of them in kinesthetic power movement is a lifetime of work.
You do understand that hips lead the swing, however, you do not yet understand the difference between passive hip rotation and explosive ground force rotational movement. The latter generating as much as 5x more rotational speed.
Hard to explain, without showing you. All this to say, there's still way more for you to gain. You are on the right track, you seem to be a fantastic human being! Keep learning!!
Do you have any references or videos to share that explain your point better?
I immediately tried this in my living room with a rag after watching the video, and HOLY SMOKES! I CAN FEEL THE POWER! I want to give you a big smooch and a hug for this tip. Can't wait to go practice on the field later! Thank you SO MUCH!
Of course, I hope you see a difference in your field work!!
@@BensBigDrive The field work didn't go as expected, however I reached the same lengths I did previously (260 feet with a midrange) with a lot of less effort, or at least that's what it felt like. Going to need to practice this a lot more to unlearn the muscle memory of previous timing, but I think it's definitely going to improve my game in the long run. Thanks again :D
This is one of the best explanations I’ve ever heard. I’ve been plateaued around 250 ft my whole life... can’t wait to try incorporate what i heard here.
Great video bro! 👍
Awesome man, I hope this helps your field work!
Great "Berton" example!
I've been throwing for a couple months now and have watched pretty much every disc golf video on youtube. I was still only getting around 180' maybe 200' on a good day. It was becoming frustrating. I watched this video and went out next day. This video put it all together. My throws increased by a hundred feet almost instantly, AND a big plus, my shoulder doesn't hurt.
That’s so exciting to hear, learn how to harness that power and get out there and start shredding!! You’re the man!
Your explanation of why some athletes can naturally throw further than I can after playing for so long (looking at you Brody) makes so much sense. Thank you for this video, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that this video is a huge gift to the amateur disc golf scene. Subbed
Thanks so much for the sub and your comment, I hope there are a bunch more players out there ripping because of it!
This is the off season video I needed, I am saving this and looking back at it when needed. Thank you for breaking it down like this.
Of course man, thanks for watching!!
this was the best video ive seen on how to control your body in whcih ones move first and when to use thr speed etc.. i think the last bit of perfecting will be getting the right leg straightened out instead of slightly bent at the throw
Thanks so much for watching dude!!! And yes definitely, gotta work on my front hip motion for sure, thanks so much for the support!
Bro, this is the best explanation of the backhand I've ever seen! I've watched tons of them. This breakdown is better than any top pro has ever done! Thank you.
Thanks so much Jacob, I appreciate it a ton!
I need to loosen up before muscling up!!! Dude..I needed this reminded..I lost some distance recently and you just described what I'm doing wrong! Not all of it but I was consciously thinking about the reach back.
Loose is always stronger (counterintuitive I know), but good luck!
Nice breakdown. I could never figure out how to properly engage my hips.. Thanks! Good luck on your journey.
Thanks Mark, I appreciate it!
aaaand now I figured out why my lower right back hurts after throwing "far" (100m, or ~330ft). I use my hips, but really just throw with my arm. All of the energy from my hips are stopped by my front foot. I have a wicked slapshot in ice hockey, can throw a baseball pretty fast, and all of that power comes from the legs (or the hips), so this makes perfect sense. Thank you!
Wow! Ben! This advice so important! I’ve watched so many videos trying to figure out what I am doing wrong and you hit the mail on the head with this one! Great job! Love your videos!
Another great video. Hoping to incorporate this into my game. Always felt like my hips were off.
So are mine, I’m working on it as well! Thanks for the support!
Best thing I can tell anyone in addition is to understand full flight patterns. You cannot expect to get a disc to get you maximum flight when you are not reaching the discs required speed to get a full flight. Slowing down your selection of disc can in some circumstances increase your maximum distance if you are not correctly utilizing the higher speed disc. Which I see incredibly often in people attempting to throw max distance. A 7-9 Speed disc when thrown correctly for its full flight pattern and then even you throwing it a little over speed can translate to an easy 400 foot drive. Which will show you how much potential you have for even faster discs when you can reach those speeds. 12-13 speeds should be in the 450+ range. Don't even touch them for distance if you can't get a 7 speed over 350.
This info is so basic and in many form videos.
This is great advice for max distance with max control! Thanks for watching!
terrific demonstration--I will try to do it! Because I know I could be throwing much farther
Awesome Kalman, I hope this helps you bomb!!
First time its been explained in a way that i feel like i understand what ive been doing wrong. I literally just tried it in my living room (no disc of course) and for the first time i felt that pocket, that sweet spot, the hit box, and so many other ways others have tried to explain it. Cant wait to put this into practice.
You’re more careful than me, I have holed a couple wall trying that with discs 😂😂 but thanks so much for trying it, I hope it helps you out!!
Your comparison between the two throws was the last bit of information I needed to exit my plateau. Thank you so much for this video! Went out and beat the 330 feet mark with a midrange for the first time ever!
That's so great to hear, I'm so glad it helped! Keep crushing!
Thank you. You explained that perfectly for something I couldn’t put together in my stroke. Subbed and looking forward to checking out more of your content.
Thanks so much for the support Kale!
Thousandth like. Your comparison video showing the disc lag is on point. Your explanation for how to achieve it is too. Spin and throw disc golf posted a video analyzing Donaldson's swing, and Donaldson also says to keep hands and arm muscles relaxed while engaging the hips which is the same conclusion you came to. Nice work!
Thanks so much for that analysis man, I’m gonna check out that video as well! Thanks for the support!
EXCELLENT video. The tip at the end of holding the disc relaxed (Ricky Wysocki actually does this when he throws) to help teach your upper body to not outpace the hips - or be rotating at the same time (which I think I've been doing forever) - is pure gold. Please do a part 2 to this video talking more about getting that timing of planting right foot, opening hips, and then when to start actually snapping. I find myself having a hard time knowing / sensing the delayed timing from lower body to then when the shoulders are rotating and then your arm/elbow is snapping.
Thanks so much for your comment, I have been mulling over ideas and researching drills to make this concept click, and that’s an awesome suggestion for a part two!! Thanks so much!
Been playing for 2 months now and this helped me hit 312' today.
Great tips Ben! I love the part about slowing down. I figured that out last week and it was nice to hear someone else say it too. Now, if I can get the other parts in the relay to connect consistently... practice practice practice...
You can connect the dots, you got this!! Thanks so much Scott!
EXACTLY what I’ve been looking for! Best video I’ve found on how to engage the hips for power. Thanks!!
Thanks so much Nate, I really appreciate that!!
I was a thrower in high school for track and field the first thing we ever worked on was getting in that stance where your arm is all the way back getting ready to lead with your hips. However, we would turn our ankles first. This creates even more tension in your hips and accelerates them faster forward. Just getting back in that stance and holding it while you turn your ankles and feel the tension building in your hips helps. Then adding bring the hips through, then adding the release. Once we mastered each step we brought it all together and would throw our shot or discus. It’s great help. Work on the ankle turns and hopefully you see how it helps and make a video on it.
Thanks for a great video, Ben
Thanks so much, I appreciate it!
Great explanation dude!
Watched a ton of these and still suck off the tee. This is the first time I have seen it explained like this. Can’t wait to try out. Hopefully I won’t suck off the tee anymore. Thanks bud!!
“Not sucking” is the ultimate goal we all strive towards, I hope it helps!
I've just started to make a real hip turn, and that's helped a lot with distance, but I know my timing is a weakness. This "One Rule" thing made me approach with skepticism, but I think it was very well illustrated and has a lot of truth to it.
I also hate “one quick fix” vids, but I really just don’t think 400ft is possible if you’re throwing all arms (and if it is, you could be throwing so much further 😂) but thanks for the support!!!
Ber-toooon. Great video man. That "bad" example is EXACTLY how I throw right now. I'll practice this right away. New sub from me, cheers!
Thanks so much Mat, I appreciate the sub!! Thanks for the support!
Great video, solid teaching!
Thanks so much for watching Doug!
I must admit, having watched a lot of technique videos, this is a 10min video perfectly showing what other 10h of videos have barely managed to do.
Thanks so much Kristo, I really appreciate it!
I only come here to hear the intro music, Might learn a thing or two after haha. Great videos!
Great explanation thank you!!
thank you for destructing it like that awesome
For such a small channel this video is really well put together props to you mate
Thanks man, I appreciate it!
I’ve been working on form for MONTHS, and nobody could articulate how this was my problem. I went in the field after this video and literally went from 300-385’ in one hour. Can’t wait to make this a habit and get above 400’ easy! Thanks for the great video
That’s incredible, it really is the key!! Thanks for watching!!
Hey David, thanks so much for your comment and it thrills me that you actually gained some distance from trying this out!! Do you mind if I use your comment on a website I am building? Thanks so much for watching!
thanks buddy, trying to figure out why my fieldwork didn't yield any results today and looking through this helped.
I’m super glad to hear that Max, glad I could help!
Thanks Ben! Wow, this makes so much more sense to me now. I can't wait to hit the course and practice. BTW, you have amazing instruction videos, I've watched a few others too.
Thanks so much James, thanks for the support!
I've been working on my backhand form goin on 2 years and I still took things away from this video, kudos bruh.
Thanks so much J G, I really appreciate that!!
This is such a good video! I've never really heard it explained for people who don't do it at all, just for people who don't do it right or enough. I don't know how well or how quickly I'll actually implement it, but that's on my coordination, not the lesson.
Thanks so much Kevin, I hope it clicks quickly!
I can't wait to practice with this in mind. What I see is you keep your shoulders turned back until you get your hips turned to parallel with your line. Paying attention to the tension in your upper arm as the trigger is a great idea.
Thanks so much Ed, I hope this give you a lil extra distance and control!
This is an amazing video. Light bulb just went on! Going to the field now. Thanks Ben.
Thanks so much!! I hope it helps your game!
Bravo!! Great video and explanation!!
Thanks so much Chris!!!
In one driving session you just added 50+ ft to my average drive and eliminated some truly troubling wrist strain I was getting from bad form. Thanks!
Fantastic Joel, I’m super glad to hear that! Thanks for watching!
Awesome information. Time to do some field work!
Thanks so much, I hope you see some improvement!
Watched this last night and tried it on the course today. Unlocked a new level. Going to hit a field this weekend to keep practicing that hip lead👍🏼
Awesome Derek, I hope you enjoy that new level!!
Hey Derek, can you explain the difference you felt and saw in your throw? Let me know
What a great demonstration from two angles at the SAME time!! Love it! Makes so much sense !!!!! Thank you!
Thanks so much for watching!!
Wow Big Ben you hit the nail right on the head on explaining the mechanics of the hips for a throw. Now I know exactly what I was doing wrong. I loved the analogy of the relay race, really to the point. Going to the field tomorrow and put those mechanics in my throws. Oh and by the way I'm new to disc golf, just started last year so your videos are helping me a lot. Ty for your awesome Disc Golf content.
Thanks so much for the super nice comment man, I hope my vids continue to help you love and grow in the game of disc golf!!
Great video. Just enjoyed another one of your newer videos where you talked about stopping your plant foot and keeping a straightish leg. I see your leg is rather bent here or am i wrong?
Thanks! Parked two drives 300+ feet today just making this subtle change!
Fantastic dude, I’m glad it’s shaving some strokes!!!
This is the hardest technique by far to learn in discgolf, and no one has ever explained HOW to actually learn it of all the vids that are out there. I feel its all about trying to learn the muscle memory, and you are the first to have given hands on advice on what to do specifically with your body and what to think of. The biggest challenge of learning this, is that people dont know what its suppose to actually feel like to try and rotate your hip before your ”relaxed” arm, that just keeps the disc in position. What muscels should you focus on to rotate the hips for example? And how can you help with your legs and feet to improve hip rotation? I feel there is more to say on this topic. Anyways, well said brother!
I love this, it is really hard to portray what this “feels” like, but that’s an awesome topic to dive into for another video. Thanks so much for watching!
Subd! So well explained. I heard this a hundred times but never really engaged the hips fully each time. This is a game changer for me. Thanks!
Thanks so much for the sub, I hope it really helps your game!
Thank you! This was a Great lesson and pep talk at the same time for me! I love your way of shearing the facts and still have fun! Great, thanks again! 😎👌
Thanks so much Ola, I really appreciate it and hope it helps your game!
Very well presented. Nice job!