How I Got SNAP Like Drew Gibson [Advanced Disc Golf Form Tips]
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0:00 - Who cares about snap?
2:00 - Step 1
7:10 - Step 2
10:50 - Step 3
16:17 - 3 Warnings
18:45 - Testing it with the Techdisc!
20:46 - An interesting realization - กีฬา
I’m too early. I came for the roasts from Drew.
3 legged dog at 14:55. Way to go champion!
I love watching Bodanza @.75x speed. 😅
When you're used to listening to Ben Shapiro, you can speed Bodanza up without any issues...
1x is perfect for Bodanza, podcasts running 1.15 to 1.2x to compensate and live faster. ;D
Being from the south this helped a lot lol
Only way to watch
I think he's the guy that does the speed talk disclaimers at the end of tv commercials
Man I really appreciate you documenting this stuff as it’s happening!
The McBeth "pump" is one way to prevent getting back too early.
Top ruminating on your form discoveries! Bravo!
Always a fan of any Bodanza video
Your tips are always appreciated
This was the exact thing I started doing about 3 months ago. I found that it felt more natural and a little assist to get closer to my body for a more powerful pocket. But now my form has changed a bit so my disc isn’t as vertical at reach back, but I’m getting more snap while taking bits and pieces of this plus other things. The usual taking bits of pieces of what works and putting them all together. Great video. Keep it up! 💪
Wow this channel is growing so fast, it makes me so happy seeing you get the subs you deserve, can’t wait to try this stuff out next field work sesh.
Thank you.
Very much appreciate you.❤
Great observations man. Thanks for sharing.
I’ve been struggling with getting spin on the disc so I’m excited to test this out!
Love the passion you talk with about the game! Thanks for another banger.
Thanks for the vid Anthony. Lately, I have been conscious of my form during league rounds (the only time I get to throw). Decided to change a few things up halfway through (slow down x step, brace, reach back, etc.). Was +8 on the first 12 (with a quad bogey, ouch), then went -8 on the next 11 holes. This gives me some more thought fuel going forward.
In my earlier years, I was able to generate the whip crack sound. But only with lower speed, hyzer flip shots using roadrunners,sidewinders,valkyries, and beat eagles. I attributed it to be primarily from using narrow rimmed discs and from wrist action while maintaining shorter arm travel that's closer to my midsection. When Simon Lizotte brought his
Jugs radar gun to the IDGC,
I was disappointed with my speed. But today, at age 56, I still can occasionally hit 400'. And perhaps 450' with a nice tailwind or driving from an elevated tee box.
I can't imagine how someone can get the whip crack with wider rimmed discs, especially while performing a turnover with those wider grip models.
your form video journey is epic dude. great content
Bondanza is elite. Thanks for sharing!
The timing on this video is perfect. I’ve been throwing my TechDisc and getting frustrated that my brother can get 150 to 200 RPMs more than me with relative ease (I feel like I’m expending much more energy and getting less spin). A couple of days ago, my buddy mentioned, turning the disc vertical at the start of the reach back. I tried that and instantly increased my RPMs by approximately 200 (with ease). Definitely going to spend more time in front of the net practicing this(and of course some of the tips you shared in this video)!
What a great one! Thanks! 👍
Love all the video's, great content! Small note, please leave the freeze frames up for a touch longer. I found myself stopping the video a lot to really study those freeze frames. Your killing it out there, living out many of our dreams. Always looking forward to the next video!
You're figuring it out so well. I am also in an obsessive form journey and I've learned most of the power comes from the lower body and upper body is mainly to dial in flight of disc as long as you get a decent power pocket that it. I know friends that have pretty bad upper body but great lower and easily throw 450. I'm like 70% there but max out around 450. Keep going, love these videos, so relatable.
Do you have any video suggestions ?
I am waiting for the snow and ice to melt before I get out and use my drivers.
Great video as always.
Oh Snap! Bodanza going deep on technique
I think i needed this video. I have a hard time throwing a penetrating hyzer shot. I'm better with flat to anhyzer. will definitely keep in mind some of these ques for next time
Thanks Bodanza! You improving your throw is improving my throw! I know a lot of pros do a double pump thing to slow the timing of the reach back during the cross step… just a thought, it feels spicy haha
The three legged dog hopping along in the background lol.
Great video as always! Did you watch the Overthrow-video on arming the disc? I thought it was very interesting with regards to rounding and rotation of the torso.
I did not yet
19:14 Going from phone in left hand to a mirrored shot with phone in the right hand threw me for a loop. I just about broke when you then mimed throwing with your right. That was pretty wild.
Reaching out is what works for me. You can kind of line the shot up as well by picturing the out in out line and its really consistent. I use it to line up my standstills.
It's been a little while since we had a classic Bodanza forgets his meds and has ALL the form epiphanies at once video.
Tried this out today, the chest down que really clicked with me. Great stuff
Uli also gets big snap, also im wondering if staying down/ over the disc during the throw affects your flat and anhyzer throws...?🤘✌️
That opening elbow sequence he showed looked a lot like Uli
When you talked about/showed what it looks like to “roll the disc up,” it reminded me of Ricky Wysocki’s form. I’ve always thought his form looked different from other professional disc golfers, but he’s one of the best in the game. So obviously he’s got something figured out 😂
Love your videos man! It's so much fun to watch you grow! My head understands what you say but my body won't do it haha!
My other problem is 5-6 months with snow haha!
@dgspindoctor does a good explanation on pushing the elbow and shoulder out that helped me alot with accuracy and distance both
Good observation with pronation. I know I supinate, which is probably natural for the fact that I throw a lot of hyzers... curious to mess with this more.
I think your rate of speaking is fine. I have to put some people on 1.5x so I don’t doze off or it doesn’t take forever to get through their video. Keep doing what you’re doing Anthony, with this many subs you must be doing something right! 👍
Question: how much are your throws improving form these (and others) form changes vs. you keep throwing discs and playing disc golf?
That spin rate is absolutely amazing. Do you have ballistic work with weights (medball throws, etc) and sprints/jumps in your workouts? If not I would recommend to try those out, because speed/power development takes serious effort to improve!
Yo love the videos! GL this season. Not that my opinion matters but the last couple videos I found the music to be a little loud/distracting. Just wanted to give you some honest feedback.
Great videos! Where did you get an orange glow dynasty?
its an x out gummy c blend centurion! It was in an infinite mystery box they sent me!
Objectively the briefcase / extra wrist curl whatever you want to call it, whether right or wrong for more snap, 100% puts more stress on your elbow because you literally are going to have to rotate your arm through the highest speed part of the throw to get it to flat nose down. If your arm and elbow can handle that great, but that's a perfect way to give yourself tennis elbow if it can't. If you need a better understanding of why, just hold your forearm straight out in front of you and rotate it back and forth while your other hand holds onto your elbow and feel the tendons stretch. Look up an image about tennis elbow injuries if you aren't really feeling it and put your fingers right in those spots with one hand as you rotate the other. Minimally I would recommend using an elbow compression sleeve if you're intent on practicing this, and build into full power throws very slowly, cause you literally can go out and hurt yourself in one outing practicing this. I sure did, and that was a fun 3-4 months of doing tennis elbow PT. Be careful folks.
Thank you for mentioning that. I've not been a fan of the suitcase grip/position because the disc is off plane during the swing. I suspected it might cause other issues, having tried it, but wasn't sure.
i think snap is your fingers coming together and hitting each other mixed with the disc scraping at same time for noise but i believe Eagle talks about snap more like the extension of the wrist vs a noise from fingers.
Not related to your video, but I'd love to see a video put out comparing OG type discs with more modern ones. With all the hyped-up marketing and gimmicks in the disc golf world, I found myself going back to the DX and KC Pro Roc for my midrange and am loving it. Do these old discs stand the test of time, or are they outdated and obsolete to newer discs on the market? I also notice that you have been focusing a lot on form lately and I'm liking the new emphasis on form and skill. It sometimes seemed like you were on a never-ending quest for the perfect discs when I feel like disc selection is so minor in comparison to becoming a better player. Keep up the great work Anthony, can't wait to see you competing more this year hopefully.
something i want to try but ive injured my forearm is if you look at Calvin how he grabs the disc is over the top vs most ppl from the side.. i noticed when i grab it over the top my thumbs part of the palm was the main pressure point which i know is the strongest part of the hand.. with the new grip as i coil i notice my arm goes up just like Calvins and when i uncoil i now feel a spring of the hand which i never do when i grip the disc from the side! could be a game changer honestly bcuz i feel the hit point is clearly at 10 now and the wrist is so much stronger yeah..
Great video. Do you find it any harder to pour the coffee when curling the wrist? How important do you find pouring the coffee for getting nose down? Seems like the form improvements could be a bigger factor.
I have never thought about pouring the coffee personally, but I've heard it's a cue that helps other people
I guess it is cool to have snap sound, but it doesn't necessarily bring extra distance. There are many bombers who have a quiet throw. Simon Lizotte being one of them.
I can get a snap when I throw putter for 150 ft. I do think that my throws with a snap (not a loud one) are often cleaner than without it. Depends on the grip.
yoooo i filmed that clip of cuppy 🤣
Have you done any stand still throws to get a baseline speed? I'm curious to see hpw many mph's you're getting from your lower body.
The number of words packed into a tiny amount of time here is impressive
Using farther correctly off the bat, direct a thumbs up ;P
Great video! very informative. I was wondering if you would recommend all those tips to people with really long arms. I am 6'3" with a 6'7" ‐ 6'8" wingspan. I could be wrong, I haven't watched too many form videos, but I haven't really noticed people like Simon Lizotte do that wrist curl thing or really get over their disc like your describing. Are the mechanics different?
I have seen big guy Scott Stokely use curl but due to height, he has never bent over his disc. Mechanics are different for people over 5 foot 9--10 inch.
I have no idea tbh
@@caseysmith544 gotcha, thanks
I am obsessing over nose angle right now. As soon as I get a few right and think I've got it... next throw is a skyhook 😂
But that chest down tip I've never heard before. I think that's a missing piece for me.
A lower body question: Your left leg seems to gain some sweeping/swooping momentum around your plant foot. Specifically, your left knee passes "outside" where the right foot is planted rather than "above" it in a straight line forwards. I see people doing different things here. Have you explored the trailing leg movement to specifically shape your form this way, or is it something that just varies between individuals?
Before watching the video, isn't it all grip related?
When i grip the disk with a "power grip" then i leave my pointer finger and fan out the other 3, i get a solid snap every time i throw.
I get loud snaps cuz I throw with 2 fingers but I cap out around 390 ,they lazers doe…… lazers ⛳️💪🏻 lol
i tend to get more snap noise when its cold vs warm not sure why
I get snap sometimes but still the disc wont get further then 300ft. How come? The disc seems to fly how it suppose to aswell. Roadrunner or Enigma doesnt matter if its an OS or US disc...
As someone who obsesses
Over my form and thinks about it constantly I love this. Can I ask Do you look at form videos for others and give suggestions? I’m 6 foot three and can’t seem to find this speed at all in my pull through and I feel it’s because I pull all with my arm but I haven’t been able to find something consistent and comfortable
I don't look at anyone else's form. At least right now I'm not interested in being a coach and am just head down focusing on my own game! Hope you're able to figure it out :)
I can’t wait to see how far you go man! I appreciate you even posting this stuff and I hope it helps me too. Big fan!! 💪🏼
Simon Lizotte had snap, before the injuries. After Simon's second injury, his snap was gone but he had used a different power form, and it is same one Eagle had to use after first injury before he was injured again. Before this Simon had a snap on every max distance throw but during his second injury it was gone.
He didn't have snap. I was present when one person asked Lizotte about the snap sound 5-6 years ago. He said he doesn't have and doesn't know how to get the snap sound. Maybe he had a snap 10 years ago then, but didn't remember it later.
I just watched 2015 videos from Simon where he throws over 700 ft and no snap. It's very different sound..kind of sliding sound.
@@kimmomatikainen1843 Simon is like a few players in that regard. Thomas Gilbert has reportedly one of the quietest throws out there. I recall Nate Sexton talking about it a few years ago. Kinda cool to be able to bomb in stealth mode. Stealth bombers! 🤣
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Drew you can be frank in your feedback
I know Scott Stokely does a lot on snap as well
Eagle and Uli are the snap kings
As was Simon before his second injury. After Simon his first injury just had him end doing some 360 max distance throws for distance competition and for some wide open very long holes over 800--900 feet. Simon had snap during his first injury but after he had to use a different form he uses for holes 500 feet and under.
what mold of the tech disc do you recommend?
I got the fairway, I feel it’s the most versatile, but I’d say get whatever shot you want to test the stats on
@@BodanzaDiscGolf thank you ! this video was amazingly helpful
So I found that you throw about one mph slower than me but with about 150-200 rpm higher yet we throw about the same distance. Very curious to see if one mph can gain the same amount of distance as 150 rpm. Fruit for thought. Also not sure if you have or not but you should try the cohort as a putting outter
Don't forget that there are many other factors in distance. Wind, elevation, humidity, nose angle, disc (speed, turn, fade etc.), hyzer/anhyzer angle and many other things.
Lot of people with less arm speed throws quite a lot farther than I do.
With a wrong nose angle person who throws faster and has more spin can throw shorter than person who has less speed and spin.
@@kimmomatikainen1843 completely correct but with that being said my Pharaoh goes about 460-480. Had crazy left right tail the other day and got 527 but it was a one off so while really cool to be able to say it’s not gonna be a common occurrence until I pick up the speed. My nose and launch are also very close to Anthony right around -1/+1 nose and +5/+8 launch
How do you all get that pivot on your plant foot at the heel? When i am focusing on making sure I plant with the front of my foot first, the pivot happens so fast, that I end up pivoting on the toes and not the heel. I have not figured out how to properly plant front of foot first and then somehow lift the toes to quickly pivot (uncoil) on the heel.
Slow down, Might be pulling to early and not letting heel get down before the throw happens.
@@YeaBuDDy840 thank you. i will do some drive way practice into a net and focus on that.
@@mriforgiate th-cam.com/video/9Qp45it4WW4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2ZKrsttAq3g2lfpx This helped me understand what I'm trying to accomplish with the brace.
I never thought your brain would calm down and clean out the noise, but it has. I'm genuinely happy for you, bro. You sound more together than I've ever heard you before; your analytic voice is rock steady, concise and on point. Learning is one of the all time most valuable skills to learn.
Thank you for this tip on "keeping chest over throw" as I imagine it might be exactly what I need to stop my infernal "anhyzer hitch in my swing" that's come up since trying to keep the disc "out away from my chest" during reach-back. "Anhyzer is farther out away than hyzer" is what I'm gonna guess my brain-body calculates. Let's try the briefcase and see what's in it?
You ever heard Paul McBeth snap holy shit 😅
I tried the wrist part before and when I threw it hurt my hand every time. It literally gave me pin needle feeling like my hand went asleep. was a tip ricky wysocki gives.
My take on why people want the snap is that it’s something so specific to yourself that you must be doing something right when you’re throwing the disc.
It's weird how as soon as you start turning the disc on reachback, with a hat on, you straight up just look like Drew
The thing I struggle with is keeping a tight grip on the disc while still keeping my wrist loose.
Try practicing in your spare time by holding anything, doesn't have to be a disc. Just keep a firm grip (no need for a death grip), and focus on keeping your wrist loose and shake it around so you can feel that difference between the two areas.
I thought this was going to be a dirty joke@@FartemisOwl
2:45 - now I'm just scrolling through, looking for Drew doing some roasting in the comments
A little bit of "rounding" isn't a bad thing
i dont think you should roll in the xstep man youre adding another thing to do instead just start off rolled so start off with your elbow up and wrist slightly coiled imo
“Snap” isn’t the fingers snapping together, it’s the fingers hitting the palm. It’s the same thing as packing a dip can basically. It only happens with certain people because of hand genetics or grip of the disc. Has nothing to do with more speed or spin on a disc
How come I get a lot of snap but can’t throw over 400 😢
likely either form or need better power development
Your upper body is probably pretty good. Look at your lower body, specifically the brace.
Lack of spin for me. What ant says at 3:00
@@BodanzaDiscGolfwhat do you mean by power development and where would you refer us to improve power development
I just mean developing more raw and base power. Likely in the weight room. Building more rotational power and general strength/mobility@@julianseyal
Great channel, but I always have to change the playback speed at .75 because you talk too fast for me 😄
Snap is just like whe. You snap your fingers, its the sound of your fingers hitting your hand...
I wonder if he sees the world in slow motion
Snap is more a byproduct of your anatomy
Half the time i get snap and it goes 400. Half the time i don't, its dead silent.. and it goes 400. I don't get it.
I reckon we will see that 500' video pretty soon, eh?
All you gotta do for snap is play in those birkenstocks
Word of the day instead of "guessing" you are Postulating.
Or testing a hypothesis
Snap has nothing to do with the noise.
Snap is bad. I've always been told that. Am I missing something?
Step 2 is lag
Great video. But please back off on speeding them up. I'm guessing it's 1.25x and that's just too much. It gives me anxiety, lol. I can do 0.75x but it's a pain. I think your natural speaking speed is better than you think. But anyway, love your content overall. I learned some good things from this video.
I don't speed up any of my videos, they're all at my normal speaking speed, I just talk too fast lol
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Ah man, sorry for the assumption. It really sounds sped up to me, guess I'm just not used to people talking so fast. I wonder if you could slow it down 10% before uploading. Or maybe there's something in your audio processing that makes it sound sped up. 🤷🏻♂️
I think I just need to slow it down a bit and add more breaths to these style videos. Much easier to seem slower when there are throws breaking up my babbling@@truthstands4ever
I think you are focusing too much on the wrist slinging instead of the disc pivoting around the finger with it.
Ok, I swear I can help you with your form. Give me like 20 min and hop on a call. Pretty sure you won't regret it.
You wanna talk about weird weather come to Ohio (even though your from Ohio)
How about South Dakota Pierre (Pier)? Oddest weather I have ever seen is here. I have seen all but tornados in my area and even saw snow lighting one time in 2010's. Only one time did I see tornados coming in my direction.
Bro hit the white horse around the 7 min mark? Slow down homie.
I'm not equestrian, sorry
Reminds me sort of like how proctor holds the disc
If you listen to Stokely, this is not what snap is. Chase down his video and you will get a very different viewpoint.
Holy freaking speed-speech! Anyways, Great video! 🎉🥏
Silas Schultz got that 🫰 too