This is probably the best video I've seen on footwork. Everybody films and breaks down the Xstep, and a few TALK ABOUT bracing on the front foot/leg, but this did an excellent job of showing HOW to achieve that brace. Great video! And I agree, the ghost is a badass when he's breaking things down.
Docv, man that made me smile!! I’m so glad you got something good out of it, and I owe a TON to loopghost as I’m sure a lot of disc golfers do. Thanks so much for watching!!
Turned from a doubter to a Big Ben Believer real quick! I love it when a content creator is comprehensive enough to succesfully change my mind through the actual content, not through production value.
@@jo311 well yeah duh. I dont argue with results. I only mention it because his form should not be copied by people since there's a higher risk of injury if you dont know what you are doing.
I just want to say I am brand new to your content, but a VERY HAPPY subscriber now after this, and your now newer Forehand Video I recently watched.... Ive been playing for 12 years, but this year was my very first year using youtube to ACTUALLY learn the game. I was always 100% rec and just had fun... Ive been watching videos now for 8 months and have played much better. But I want to thanQ for this one specifially. I used everything u taught in here in my round yesterday. My buddy gave me all the feed back on what I was doing, and by following everything you covered in this (AND the newer forehand videos) and shot my best round of the year, and most improvement in a single round in my entire disc golf life.... The way you explained AND showed it all just clicked with me. A former Ball player as well.... But GREAT job, and ThanQ again! Keep it up, I will be passing this around and sharing! HIGHLY recommend this guys advice. EASY to learn, follow and go out and try. I did it after 2 videos and just tried...I shot my round of the year on my FIRST round after taking in 2 videos... I'm sold, and ThanQ AGAIN Big Ben!
im an absolute beginner struggling to get 300 feet and have started to try and break down my own form with video and this video have been extremely helpful for me( instant subscribe and like) gonna trawl through your uploads now :) !! well done!!
Thanks!! I knew I wasn't getting the proper momentum transferred through to the disc release. Walk ups weren't much farther than stand stills. I am heavily arm dependent. I wasn't planting hard enough, started spinning on the heel to early. Your explanation is spot on. I will start working on this right away! Subscribed.
You can actually see all of the energy you are throwing coming off the sweatshirt expands the energy out and forward. Love the help from this brilliant explanation!
Most important thing is practice practice practice!! Watching these videos might tell you what is right, but they don't tell you what you specifically are doing wrong. So go out there and *throw*
Best two videos I've seen. After over a year of not figuring out what I was doing wrong, this helped me very much! Thanks and good luck with your channel!
Good video, i do have to say tho that i just figured out the key to snap today on my own, and i can throw without much power, standing still and getting that snapping sound and extreme spin on the disc. They key (as far as i feel) is the right elbow and shooting your left hand down while punching your elbow and focus on pulling your right should back. This creates that golf type rotation and remember to keep the elbow higher than you think. I would say it's all in the right elbow and right shoulder. As i say, i get that snap sound in all my shots now, even standing still with no footwork. To throw far tho footwork is extremely important😊
Love this. Not sure I’ve seen another vid break down the footwork like this before and I’ve seen a lot of form vids. No doubt this has been holding me back.
Great video of your feet explaining the brace of the front foot. They’re doing great work at the OverThrow TH-cam channel on this as well. Keep up the great work brother. You’ve made a fan out of me. 🥏🤙
Thanks so much for the support Scott, and overthrow commented on this as well and I checked out their stuff, let’s say I definitely subscribed and will be tuning in whenever they put out new content!! Thanks so much for following along 👊
Well put video man. I’ve been having issues with dumping my weight over the tee box. I’ll implement this is my practice. Also thinking of the plant foot, it would allow the pull through to come across the chest longer giving you that out-in-out snap.
@@BensBigDrive Not so bad.... not so bad at all. I hit my lines though with good power. Honestly, great tips. New sub for sure if I'm not already. Edit: I sure am sub'd
In throwing discus and shot put, the same theory reigns. The plant foot is called, "the block". And it's usually described as the handle of the slingshot. Pull the elastic back, release, and the object whizzes by the 'block'. The resulting follow through is similar to a disc golf backhand, too.
Wow that’s a great analogy as well, I’ve thought about the comparison to discus and hammer throw as well, I think the concept of using that block is just a lot more intuitive for humans when you’re throwing something really heavy. Thanks for the awesome insight!
Subscribed because I’m interested in seeing you progress. I started disc golf one year ago this upcoming May and am working hard to progress myself. Hope to see a practice round video soon!
This is exactly what you were telling me at the tournament. This video is great and I hope to be implementing it into my game asap. I appreciate what you’re doing for the dg community and I really had a great time on your card. I look forward to following your journey and learning from you.
You gotta get up to lex and play a round with us before you go westward!!! Thanks for the local somerset hospitality and I appreciate you and your spiritual leadership! ❤️
Great tutorial. I am going to work on this because i'm getting too old to keep falling off of the front of the tee pad. LOL I will keep slinging them discs either way.
Very nice. I just have discovered disk golf ( COVID effect ), but I am 74 old and have right total hip replacement. I know some suggested forehand, but I feel OK only with backhand. So, is there any foot work modification that I can use to make better distance or my only option is standing flip.
I’ve been there so often, and on those good days it feels like the easiest thing in the world, and on the bad ones I’m trying so hard and getting no distance 😂
I'm back with another comment... This is HUGE! What a great tip. I went out today and tried to implement this... first the back story... I've been playing about 5 years (I'm 48 years old). 2019 was the first year I took it seriously and signed up for some sanctioned events, and started watching videos to try to figure out how to throw a backhand the right way... November of 2019 I was just getting to the consistent 300+ foot mark, with a few further, then I tore ligaments in both knees at work. Two knee surgeries and 11 months of physical therapy later, and when I started throwing again, I struggled to throw 220-230. I cannot do a run up/X-step anymore. I decided to start over with videos, trying to concentrate on the timing to try to get some distance back. Working with a technique called Spin and Throw, only using a one step throw, because I can't run up, I got back to averaging about 290 feet, with a few longer. Tonight, adding this tip, I was throwing an average of 310-315, with several 320-330 feet throws, a 341, and a 351 feet throw! All without the run up. Best yet, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE FIELD WORK AND NOT LIMPED AWAY FROM IT, LOOKING FOR MY PAIN MEDS! I look forward to doing more field work with this tip! Thank you! Thank you!! THANK YOU!!!
Doc I'm just now reading this comment, and I'm absolutely blown away!!! The best part of all of this is that you're playing more with less pain, that puts a huge smile on my face!!! I'm so super excited that this method is working for you, and I'm SO grateful for your support on the channel! Come to central KY sometime and let's get in a round together!
Started playing in october, and after this video i realized i use waaay to much arm and that my footwork is totally off.. Started again yesterday, implementing these tips. Weird at first, but holy cow, the differens!! Huge thanx from Norway ❤️
I think even better concept to understand this is spring that is twisted. One end is attached that is your front foot braced and then you start unload that tension from the bottom to the top- hips, shoulders and then your arm pulling through
Wow great stuff! For a longest time I hardly paid attention to my plant foot. I was so caught up in all these other mechanics and never gaining consistency. Just lately the importance of "the brace" has become clear and this vid does an awesome job explaining it. It plays such a big role and was often the root cause of my mistakes. I think you kind of mention it but planting seems really key in the hips "turning" instead of sliding forward. Tough to get down and really just 'stop' that forward momentum, but the disc will indeed rip out differently
That is such a great point, I have a LONG way to go in getting my hips involved the way they need to be in my throw, and I often find that when I'm really ripping (or not) it all comes down to the hips. Thanks so much for the support!!
Like Kevin Jones when he aced last year. Although that was an accidental step too close to the edge of the pad. I did what Kevin did and it opened up my skin from the knee and all the way down my shin. Now I make sure to remove the loose sand on the last 3' of the t-pad. I carry a small broom.
Solid explanation. The brace is so difficult to explain to someone who hasn't felt it in action yet; can't wait until motion capture tech is used to demystify the back hand biomechanics. I too had this concept click in my head after watching loopghost as well as seabas22; I was throwing in the field and once I got it down my drives were flying what seemed like twice the usual distance. However, at that point I wasn't aware of lifting the toes to relieve that torque on the plant leg and messed my knee up pretty good. Since then I've been hesitant to put that kind of torque on it again and I'm trying to re-learn the muscle memory.
This a great point, with more power comes a lot more risk for injury and I love the point that lifting your front foot will alleviate that tension. Thanks for watching!
Good video, thanks! I am struggling with timing right now and would like to ask you question. Do you conciously push off your left foot when the disc comes through? Any tips on timing? Thanks man!
Thanks so much for watching Joonas! As for the left foot, it’s not usually conscious, but it indirectly happens when I think about planting that front foot (especially on the side of my foot) because most of that forward momentum that you anchor with the plant foot comes from your back foot. So as long as you think about creating plenty of momentum and then stopping it with your plant I think it should happen naturally. And as for timing, I think the most important thing is that you reach the furthest point in your reach back at the same time your front foot plants. That is the best way to “stretch” your body and stay consistently powerful, you can see that’s something I’m still working on as I’m a little early. Hope that helps!!
Wow bro! I love the way you you explain this. Sometimes it's hard to understand loopghost and seabas22. I understand what your saying, but way easier said than done. it's very hard for me to get into these positions.
Thanks so much for watching Ciro, I appreciate the support! And I’m gonna drop a video this Friday that I hope will help for that, just remember that staying slow, comfortable, and balanced will always yield better results than forcing your body to do things against its will. I hope that helps!
Awesome video and great explanation. Looking forward to getting out for some field work. Would love to see a video on standstill drills that focus on the leg brace. Trying to break old bad habits.
@BensBigDrive Great stuff! Thank u for all the helpful tips. Can you let me know what shoes you are wearing in this vid? They look like the adidas r2 gtx but yours seem to have more of a grey and green faded camo color than what I'm seeing online (solid brighter colors). Any help would be appreciated.
Hey Ted, thanks for watching!! These are just the black adidas terrex, they're the waterproof version whatever that entails, but they were awesome, and they're just the all black ones, any camo appearance is just from years of getting abused 😂
Really good tips dude, thanks! I have a problem with me releasing the disc too late, which makes me slam my elbow backwards, hyperextending it. Not good. I'm really trying to time the release better, and I think these great form breakdowns can help me. If you have any further tips on this manner, please hit me up. I'm ruining my elbow tbh and it makes me rly sad. Gonna try this, thanks so much!
for me i tried changing my grip a little bit. i focus on pinching it with my index, middle, and thumb and just hold it with my ring and pinkie. i forget where i heard this from, probably scott stokley lol
good breakdown but I dont seem to be able to plant my foot this way during walk up...plus you can't really look at your plant foot during the walk up, any suggestions/thoughts to making sure plant foot is perpendicular?
Great question Herb, my suggestion would be trying this from a one-step drill, keeping your feet together and extending only your plant foot and planting correctly until it feels natural, and slowly start incorporating a walk-up. It'll take a while, but if you stick with it, it'll feel naturally eventually!
Love your break down man, some good stuff! Have you thought about doing one from a standstill? For those who are still working on their form, and haven't added a run up yet.
Hey Zane, i love this idea and thanks for the input! I'm honestly not the best at standstills but all the more reason to try and figure it out. Thanks for the support!
I like a standstill to work on that last step. Just recreate the last foot positions and do your reach back and weight shift. I can now throw just as far on a standstill
I have a question. I'm a 53 year old disc golf playing rookie. Only been playing for a year now. My question is when your throwing maximum distance throws do you never let go of the disc?
Hey Warren, good to hear you picked up the game! I hope this answers your question, when I’m throwing (putting is different), I never think of letting go of the disc. Your wrist pop should be enough to pop it out of there once it gets some speed. Hope that helps, keep at it!!
Realistically the best way to generate snap is by squeezing the disc hard AF, arm speed and a proper x step! If you're not hearing your fingers snap you're not squeezing the disc hard enough!!! You should get that left arm tighter to your side as your releasing the disc!!!! I throw 450 ft. I'm 42 years old. It took me hundreds of man hours out in a field practicing in order to do this!!!
What did you say that disc golf content creator's name was? I can't understand it in your video after 100 listens and you didn't link it in the description. Thanks!
Hey Robert, that is a great point, some people rotate the heel of their plant foot towards the target because it helps them turn their hips better, but when they go to pull thru in the power pocket their foot is perpendicular at 90 degrees to their line. If it helps you get some more out of your hips totally go for it as long as that foot is at 90 degrees at the power pocket and extension!
Hey Mike, without seeing you throw, I would say try 1. Slowing down, even to a stand still if you have to 2. Make sure the weight is on the balls of your feet the whole time, rocking back and forth through your run up can make it hard to plant 3. Make sure your shoulders don’t turn more than 90 degrees to the target, over rotating can pull that foot from being planted as well. Hope that helps!
I’m having the hardest time understanding your analogy of the cinder block and throwing a disc. You said when you throw the cinder block your body goes away (backwards) from it. So you compare that to throwing a disc and said this is what we are going to do when throwing a disc. Why would you want to go backwards after throwing a disc? Are you meaning if you throw the disc RHBH your follow through should be you rotating to the right?
Great question Austin, the cinder block analogy is really just to show you that when you want to throw something as far as possible, your body weight and momentum has to be fighting the momentum of the object you’re throwing. Another way to think of it is like bowling a bowling ball, if you bowl it and let your momentum go with the bowling ball as you throw (think your fingers stuck), it’ll pull you down with it. You want your body weight, after it’s moving forward from your run up, to stop going forward so that the disc takes all that momentum and you’re in control. So you don’t want to be going backwards after you throw necessarily, but with your front foot you’re going to have to create backwards momentum so that you can stay in control, and so that your arm/disc receives that run up momentum rather than your body, which does nothing for throwing the disc. I hope that helps!!
but keeping the foot stuck puts a lot of pressure on the joints and lower back.. I can feel immediately things starting to hurt. probably keeping the foot stuck too long then?
Great point, it very well could be you're holding it down too long, but it also could be going too fast in your run up. Try getting that rotation down from a standstill and see if that helps!
Holy shite this video resonates well, i always come off the tee pad after my throw. Not out of control but i can always tell that something was off, going to implement this asap. What do you recommend for the timing of lifting your toes and rotating your front foot? Do you start rotating your foot as soon as the disc leaves your hand? Also i second the guy who liked the beat, nice to see a new channel that doesn’t use basic bitch background music
Hahaha thanks so much for the music comment, the song is Grimey A River by Sam Barsh! And I think the thing about releasing that toe, is that if your momentum has stayed behind your throw the way it’s described in the video, right after you release the disc and begin to follow thru, your weight will catch up to that front foot, and because you’re now spinning your body due to your pull thru, if you’re really balanced it will just pop up naturally because you’re no longer fighting that forward momentum, your body is just trying to get back to balance over the feet. I hope that helps, just focus on following thru and staying balanced and it should happen naturally!
Interesting, since I just watched your video on lagging your arm behind your hips I see that you are not doing that here. Disc golf is so simple, and yet, so complicated. 😉
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This is probably the best video I've seen on footwork. Everybody films and breaks down the Xstep, and a few TALK ABOUT bracing on the front foot/leg, but this did an excellent job of showing HOW to achieve that brace. Great video!
And I agree, the ghost is a badass when he's breaking things down.
Docv, man that made me smile!! I’m so glad you got something good out of it, and I owe a TON to loopghost as I’m sure a lot of disc golfers do. Thanks so much for watching!!
You are absolutely right, this is HANDS down best video I've seen on this topic.
Turned from a doubter to a Big Ben Believer real quick! I love it when a content creator is comprehensive enough to succesfully change my mind through the actual content, not through production value.
Not rotating until the disc has already been released is HUGE. Nice explanation👍
RIGHT? It turns your “run THRU” to a “run UP”. Thanks for watching!!!
Isn't that hard on the knee joint?
@@gaprofitt I am supposing I might leak out and probably unconsciously not wanting to wreck my knee
Yes! Great explanation on a HUGE aspect that I just recently realized and incorporated, definitely noticing a change in my throw and distance.
Agreed. Good info
James Conrad would like a word with you about coming off the tee pad
Plz don’t tell him I said this, he can do whatever he wants
I love JC but he also rounds a bit too
@@MC-sg5yr he’s probably still better than you
@@jo311 well yeah duh. I dont argue with results. I only mention it because his form should not be copied by people since there's a higher risk of injury if you dont know what you are doing.
I'm sure all the top players are just doing it wrong...
Just figured this out, and am now getting snap, distance, and consistency. Much appreciated. Great video.
I've been playing 3 years and this is the first video that has fully made me understand the brace. Thanks!
Awesome Max, I hope it helps your game!!
Dude! This just totally clicked for me with how you explained and demonstrated the footwork. Thank you!! I’ve been using all arm
That’s the best complement ever, I’m glad it’s helping!!
I just want to say I am brand new to your content, but a VERY HAPPY subscriber now after this, and your now newer Forehand Video I recently watched.... Ive been playing for 12 years, but this year was my very first year using youtube to ACTUALLY learn the game. I was always 100% rec and just had fun... Ive been watching videos now for 8 months and have played much better. But I want to thanQ for this one specifially. I used everything u taught in here in my round yesterday. My buddy gave me all the feed back on what I was doing, and by following everything you covered in this (AND the newer forehand videos) and shot my best round of the year, and most improvement in a single round in my entire disc golf life.... The way you explained AND showed it all just clicked with me. A former Ball player as well.... But GREAT job, and ThanQ again! Keep it up, I will be passing this around and sharing! HIGHLY recommend this guys advice. EASY to learn, follow and go out and try. I did it after 2 videos and just tried...I shot my round of the year on my FIRST round after taking in 2 videos... I'm sold, and ThanQ AGAIN Big Ben!
im an absolute beginner struggling to get 300 feet and have started to try and break down my own form with video and this video have been extremely helpful for me( instant subscribe and like) gonna trawl through your uploads now :) !! well done!!
That’s so awesome!!! Thanks so much for watching, I really appreciate it!
Damnit! Now I have to go practice for several hours lol thanks for posting. Best vid on footwork I’ve seen yet.
Hahaha I don’t make the rules but that’s how it is!! Thanks for watching!!
the most thorough explanations to describe exactly whats needed and why, thank you
hey, thank YOU for watching!!
Great instructional video! 👍
Thanks so much brother! ❤️
Awesome absolutely awesome video especially the cinder block analogy. Thanks
Thanks!! I knew I wasn't getting the proper momentum transferred through to the disc release. Walk ups weren't much farther than stand stills. I am heavily arm dependent. I wasn't planting hard enough, started spinning on the heel to early. Your explanation is spot on. I will start working on this right away! Subscribed.
Thanks so much for the support, I hope it grows your game!!
Great video on all fronts. Enjoyed it.
Thank you all so much! ❤️
Ben's Big Drive all the best. Subbed and will be following your progress.
That’s super encouraging, thank you all and subbed to you as well!
You can actually see all of the energy you are throwing coming off the sweatshirt expands the energy out and forward.
Love the help from this brilliant explanation!
Thanks so much Austin, I appreciate the comment!
Most important thing is practice practice practice!! Watching these videos might tell you what is right, but they don't tell you what you specifically are doing wrong. So go out there and *throw*
This is such a challenge for us new players! Thank you!\
It’s a challenge for those of us who’ve been playing forever too, I hope it helps!!
Best two videos I've seen. After over a year of not figuring out what I was doing wrong, this helped me very much! Thanks and good luck with your channel!
That’s so great to hear Andrew, I’m so glad it helped and I appreciate the support!
As an engineer, this is the best tutorial I've see for understanding the mechanics of good form.
Thanks so much Eric, I trust your engineering mind!
Good video, i do have to say tho that i just figured out the key to snap today on my own, and i can throw without much power, standing still and getting that snapping sound and extreme spin on the disc. They key (as far as i feel) is the right elbow and shooting your left hand down while punching your elbow and focus on pulling your right should back. This creates that golf type rotation and remember to keep the elbow higher than you think. I would say it's all in the right elbow and right shoulder. As i say, i get that snap sound in all my shots now, even standing still with no footwork. To throw far tho footwork is extremely important😊
way underrated channel this is such a good vid an breaks things down super well good stuff!
Love this. Not sure I’ve seen another vid break down the footwork like this before and I’ve seen a lot of form vids. No doubt this has been holding me back.
That's so awesome of you to say, thanks for watching and I hope it helps your game!!!
Great video of your feet explaining the brace of the front foot. They’re doing great work at the OverThrow TH-cam channel on this as well. Keep up the great work brother. You’ve made a fan out of me. 🥏🤙
Thanks so much for the support Scott, and overthrow commented on this as well and I checked out their stuff, let’s say I definitely subscribed and will be tuning in whenever they put out new content!! Thanks so much for following along 👊
Thank you. I will give this a go.
Well put video man. I’ve been having issues with dumping my weight over the tee box. I’ll implement this is my practice. Also thinking of the plant foot, it would allow the pull through to come across the chest longer giving you that out-in-out snap.
Awesome! Cool to watch the slow mo!
Thanks for watching!
Getting ready to go play. Need a quick revisit on this.
I hope it helped you crush it!!
@@BensBigDrive
Not so bad.... not so bad at all. I hit my lines though with good power. Honestly, great tips. New sub for sure if I'm not already.
Edit: I sure am sub'd
In throwing discus and shot put, the same theory reigns. The plant foot is called, "the block". And it's usually described as the handle of the slingshot. Pull the elastic back, release, and the object whizzes by the 'block'. The resulting follow through is similar to a disc golf backhand, too.
Wow that’s a great analogy as well, I’ve thought about the comparison to discus and hammer throw as well, I think the concept of using that block is just a lot more intuitive for humans when you’re throwing something really heavy. Thanks for the awesome insight!
Great break down and well communicated ....... well done
Thanks so much for watching!!!
Subscribed because I’m interested in seeing you progress. I started disc golf one year ago this upcoming May and am working hard to progress myself. Hope to see a practice round video soon!
DefNotDev, thanks so much for following along man, it means so much to me. And that’s a great idea, might have some of those coming soon 👀
Incredible explanation! I can't wait to go throw after seeing this! Very well explained
Thanks Mike! I hope this takes strokes off next time out!
This is exactly what you were telling me at the tournament. This video is great and I hope to be implementing it into my game asap. I appreciate what you’re doing for the dg community and I really had a great time on your card. I look forward to following your journey and learning from you.
You gotta get up to lex and play a round with us before you go westward!!! Thanks for the local somerset hospitality and I appreciate you and your spiritual leadership! ❤️
Definitely! I’ll hit you up when I’m in lex and we can try and get a round in.
Nice looking Disc
I've been struggling with this and this really broke it down in a simple way! Can't wait to put this into use!! Cheers bro 🍻
That’s fantastic man, I hope it gives you some extra d!!!!
This really makes sense! I will try to focus on this next time😄
Awesome Alex, I hope it helps!!
I just tried it today and I was able to improve alot.
That makes me so happy to hear, thanks for watching and trying it out!!!
I love hearing new points of view on form tips. Thanks, very well done. I have subbed.
Thanks so much for watching Donavon, I hope it shaves some strokes!!
Another steller vido! thanks!
What a great explanation!
Thanks so much for watching!!
Great tutorial. I am going to work on this because i'm getting too old to keep falling off of the front of the tee pad. LOL I will keep slinging them discs either way.
I think falling off the tee pad will age all of us quicker as well 😂 but you nailed it, just keep slinging em discs!!
wow! I just discovered that this video is a year old. still relevant.
Ben? Could you do a video on stand stills?
Very nice. I just have discovered disk golf ( COVID effect ), but I am 74 old and have right total hip replacement. I know some suggested forehand, but I feel OK only with backhand.
So, is there any foot work modification that I can use to make better distance or my only option is standing flip.
Great tips about the feet. Somedays I can throw 450-500 and others only 300-350 but I think I might see the culprit now.
I’ve been there so often, and on those good days it feels like the easiest thing in the world, and on the bad ones I’m trying so hard and getting no distance 😂
Coming back to this video and pt. 2 for the 5th time!
Get that snap boi!
I'm back with another comment...
This is HUGE! What a great tip. I went out today and tried to implement this... first the back story...
I've been playing about 5 years (I'm 48 years old). 2019 was the first year I took it seriously and signed up for some sanctioned events, and started watching videos to try to figure out how to throw a backhand the right way... November of 2019 I was just getting to the consistent 300+ foot mark, with a few further, then I tore ligaments in both knees at work. Two knee surgeries and 11 months of physical therapy later, and when I started throwing again, I struggled to throw 220-230. I cannot do a run up/X-step anymore. I decided to start over with videos, trying to concentrate on the timing to try to get some distance back. Working with a technique called Spin and Throw, only using a one step throw, because I can't run up, I got back to averaging about 290 feet, with a few longer. Tonight, adding this tip, I was throwing an average of 310-315, with several 320-330 feet throws, a 341, and a 351 feet throw! All without the run up. Best yet, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE FIELD WORK AND NOT LIMPED AWAY FROM IT, LOOKING FOR MY PAIN MEDS!
I look forward to doing more field work with this tip! Thank you! Thank you!! THANK YOU!!!
Doc I'm just now reading this comment, and I'm absolutely blown away!!! The best part of all of this is that you're playing more with less pain, that puts a huge smile on my face!!! I'm so super excited that this method is working for you, and I'm SO grateful for your support on the channel! Come to central KY sometime and let's get in a round together!
@@BensBigDrive I do have a sister and some nephews in Kentucky... One of the nephews even plays. 😉
Well done!! Cheers mate
Thanks so much michael!!!
Started playing in october, and after this video i realized i use waaay to much arm and that my footwork is totally off.. Started again yesterday, implementing these tips. Weird at first, but holy cow, the differens!! Huge thanx from Norway ❤️
Dude that’s so awesome!! I hope it helps your game, and if I’m ever in Norway, let’s get a round in!
@@BensBigDrive Im in! Take care 😊
I think even better concept to understand this is spring that is twisted. One end is attached that is your front foot braced and then you start unload that tension from the bottom to the top- hips, shoulders and then your arm pulling through
Huge help. Keep it up!
Thanks so much!!!
LOVED this one! Keep them coming!
U = 🐐
After watching this, im convinced this is why im either spraying early or pulling late.... thanks for these tips glad it flukely was on my TH-cam feed
Absolutely, I hope it helps!
at 2:50, I just realized the sign post is between your legs and you spin on the post perfectly!
Thanks for this one
Of course, thanks for watching!!!
Awesome vid mate. I really appreciate the tips. Great job.
Thanks so much for the support Matt!!
I like this guy!
Wow great stuff! For a longest time I hardly paid attention to my plant foot. I was so caught up in all these other mechanics and never gaining consistency. Just lately the importance of "the brace" has become clear and this vid does an awesome job explaining it. It plays such a big role and was often the root cause of my mistakes. I think you kind of mention it but planting seems really key in the hips "turning" instead of sliding forward. Tough to get down and really just 'stop' that forward momentum, but the disc will indeed rip out differently
That is such a great point, I have a LONG way to go in getting my hips involved the way they need to be in my throw, and I often find that when I'm really ripping (or not) it all comes down to the hips. Thanks so much for the support!!
I have a mental block of twisting at the end, i just picture myself on the ground with a twisted knee 😂
Like Kevin Jones when he aced last year. Although that was an accidental step too close to the edge of the pad. I did what Kevin did and it opened up my skin from the knee and all the way down my shin. Now I make sure to remove the loose sand on the last 3' of the t-pad. I carry a small broom.
good lookin on sharing that Secret SAUCE my brotha 😎. Time to throw some BOMBS!!🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much Courtney, let’s GET IT 😤
Fantastic info. Much appreciated!
U = the man
Scott Stokley did a video on this recently also. Good stuff man.
I've learned a lot from that guy, I definitely learned some things from him that influenced this as well! Thanks for watching!
Solid explanation. The brace is so difficult to explain to someone who hasn't felt it in action yet; can't wait until motion capture tech is used to demystify the back hand biomechanics. I too had this concept click in my head after watching loopghost as well as seabas22; I was throwing in the field and once I got it down my drives were flying what seemed like twice the usual distance. However, at that point I wasn't aware of lifting the toes to relieve that torque on the plant leg and messed my knee up pretty good. Since then I've been hesitant to put that kind of torque on it again and I'm trying to re-learn the muscle memory.
This a great point, with more power comes a lot more risk for injury and I love the point that lifting your front foot will alleviate that tension. Thanks for watching!
Great job!
Thanks partner!
Great video Ben, thank you.
Thank you for watching!!
I have an artificial hip. I wonder how much pressure will planting my front foot put on my artificial hip.
Good video, thanks! I am struggling with timing right now and would like to ask you question. Do you conciously push off your left foot when the disc comes through? Any tips on timing? Thanks man!
Thanks so much for watching Joonas! As for the left foot, it’s not usually conscious, but it indirectly happens when I think about planting that front foot (especially on the side of my foot) because most of that forward momentum that you anchor with the plant foot comes from your back foot. So as long as you think about creating plenty of momentum and then stopping it with your plant I think it should happen naturally. And as for timing, I think the most important thing is that you reach the furthest point in your reach back at the same time your front foot plants. That is the best way to “stretch” your body and stay consistently powerful, you can see that’s something I’m still working on as I’m a little early. Hope that helps!!
Wow bro! I love the way you you explain this. Sometimes it's hard to understand loopghost and seabas22. I understand what your saying, but way easier said than done. it's very hard for me to get into these positions.
Thanks so much for watching Ciro, I appreciate the support! And I’m gonna drop a video this Friday that I hope will help for that, just remember that staying slow, comfortable, and balanced will always yield better results than forcing your body to do things against its will. I hope that helps!
Awesome video and great explanation. Looking forward to getting out for some field work. Would love to see a video on standstill drills that focus on the leg brace. Trying to break old bad habits.
Awesome, I hope you see some results in your field work! Thanks for the suggestion!
@BensBigDrive Great stuff! Thank u for all the helpful tips. Can you let me know what shoes you are wearing in this vid? They look like the adidas r2 gtx but yours seem to have more of a grey and green faded camo color than what I'm seeing online (solid brighter colors). Any help would be appreciated.
Hey Ted, thanks for watching!! These are just the black adidas terrex, they're the waterproof version whatever that entails, but they were awesome, and they're just the all black ones, any camo appearance is just from years of getting abused 😂
@@BensBigDrive Sounds good. Thanks for the clarity. Sounds like they def have stood the test of time
Really good tips dude, thanks! I have a problem with me releasing the disc too late, which makes me slam my elbow backwards, hyperextending it. Not good. I'm really trying to time the release better, and I think these great form breakdowns can help me. If you have any further tips on this manner, please hit me up. I'm ruining my elbow tbh and it makes me rly sad. Gonna try this, thanks so much!
for me i tried changing my grip a little bit. i focus on pinching it with my index, middle, and thumb and just hold it with my ring and pinkie. i forget where i heard this from, probably scott stokley lol
Hey nice response to the video keep it up my guy
Thanks so much, I appreciate it!!
Can we just talk about that beat!? Shit bumps!
One would even say, it *slaps*
Great video but I would have loved to see a side-by-side comparison of correct vs. incorrect otherwise falling off the pad if the only give-away.
This was incredible helpfull... thank you!
My knee blew up watching this
Is that East Frankfort DGC? I played there once last year when my daughter was at a horse show at Lakeside Arena. That was a fun course!
The one and only!! It’s my OG home course, and I still have a bunch of fun there!
A++++ Thanks big pimpin!! O-H
Even with the Ohio state pic I appreciate the support 😉
@@BensBigDrive 😳 TTUN? If so, you are dead to me 4 months of the year 🍻 🙆♂️🤷♂️🙏🙆♂️
good breakdown but I dont seem to be able to plant my foot this way during walk up...plus you can't really look at your plant foot during the walk up, any suggestions/thoughts to making sure plant foot is perpendicular?
Great question Herb, my suggestion would be trying this from a one-step drill, keeping your feet together and extending only your plant foot and planting correctly until it feels natural, and slowly start incorporating a walk-up. It'll take a while, but if you stick with it, it'll feel naturally eventually!
Ben, What is the name of the disc golf content genius that describes the backhand that you mentioned in the above video Thanks Andy
Hey Andy, the guy I mentioned is Loopghost, go check out his channel!
Love your break down man, some good stuff! Have you thought about doing one from a standstill? For those who are still working on their form, and haven't added a run up yet.
Hey Zane, i love this idea and thanks for the input! I'm honestly not the best at standstills but all the more reason to try and figure it out. Thanks for the support!
@@BensBigDrive Look forward to seeing it if you ever do one. Also hope to see you on the course in lex sometime, congrats on the bomb disc deal!
I like a standstill to work on that last step. Just recreate the last foot positions and do your reach back and weight shift.
I can now throw just as far on a standstill
Nice video
Thanks so much!!
Amazing video.
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Thanks so much, I really appreciate that!
Ty work on thay
cool, buy into the timing thing, but can't do it with out being really herky -jerky any drills to make this magic happen.
I have a question. I'm a 53 year old disc golf playing rookie. Only been playing for a year now. My question is when your throwing maximum distance throws do you never let go of the disc?
Hey Warren, good to hear you picked up the game! I hope this answers your question, when I’m throwing (putting is different), I never think of letting go of the disc. Your wrist pop should be enough to pop it out of there once it gets some speed. Hope that helps, keep at it!!
Realistically the best way to generate snap is by squeezing the disc hard AF, arm speed and a proper x step! If you're not hearing your fingers snap you're not squeezing the disc hard enough!!! You should get that left arm tighter to your side as your releasing the disc!!!! I throw 450 ft. I'm 42 years old. It took me hundreds of man hours out in a field practicing in order to do this!!!
What did you say that disc golf content creator's name was? I can't understand it in your video after 100 listens and you didn't link it in the description. Thanks!
Arent u supposed to angle ur heel towards the target?
Hey Robert, that is a great point, some people rotate the heel of their plant foot towards the target because it helps them turn their hips better, but when they go to pull thru in the power pocket their foot is perpendicular at 90 degrees to their line. If it helps you get some more out of your hips totally go for it as long as that foot is at 90 degrees at the power pocket and extension!
I can’t get myself to rotate on my heel, the ball of the foot is so intuitive from all the sports I’ve played. How much is that hurting me?
How, how can I get that foot to stay planted long enough. I’m rotating that foot as I’m throwing the disc. It’s been very difficult for me anyway.
Hey Mike, without seeing you throw, I would say try 1. Slowing down, even to a stand still if you have to 2. Make sure the weight is on the balls of your feet the whole time, rocking back and forth through your run up can make it hard to plant 3. Make sure your shoulders don’t turn more than 90 degrees to the target, over rotating can pull that foot from being planted as well. Hope that helps!
@@BensBigDrive thanks, it’s getting closer for me, I’m going to slow it down even more.
It *should* be a very natural motion sequence.
Alas, stars explode and fireworks don't.
I’m having the hardest time understanding your analogy of the cinder block and throwing a disc. You said when you throw the cinder block your body goes away (backwards) from it. So you compare that to throwing a disc and said this is what we are going to do when throwing a disc. Why would you want to go backwards after throwing a disc? Are you meaning if you throw the disc RHBH your follow through should be you rotating to the right?
Great question Austin, the cinder block analogy is really just to show you that when you want to throw something as far as possible, your body weight and momentum has to be fighting the momentum of the object you’re throwing. Another way to think of it is like bowling a bowling ball, if you bowl it and let your momentum go with the bowling ball as you throw (think your fingers stuck), it’ll pull you down with it. You want your body weight, after it’s moving forward from your run up, to stop going forward so that the disc takes all that momentum and you’re in control. So you don’t want to be going backwards after you throw necessarily, but with your front foot you’re going to have to create backwards momentum so that you can stay in control, and so that your arm/disc receives that run up momentum rather than your body, which does nothing for throwing the disc. I hope that helps!!
but keeping the foot stuck puts a lot of pressure on the joints and lower back.. I can feel immediately things starting to hurt. probably keeping the foot stuck too long then?
Great point, it very well could be you're holding it down too long, but it also could be going too fast in your run up. Try getting that rotation down from a standstill and see if that helps!
Isn't the pullback a bit early here?
I hit a house yesterday, damn near took out the front window playing with my grip for my backhand.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
@@BensBigDrive a little of both, bad thing to hit the house, good thing I missed the windows.
Holy shite this video resonates well, i always come off the tee pad after my throw. Not out of control but i can always tell that something was off, going to implement this asap. What do you recommend for the timing of lifting your toes and rotating your front foot? Do you start rotating your foot as soon as the disc leaves your hand? Also i second the guy who liked the beat, nice to see a new channel that doesn’t use basic bitch background music
Hahaha thanks so much for the music comment, the song is Grimey A River by Sam Barsh! And I think the thing about releasing that toe, is that if your momentum has stayed behind your throw the way it’s described in the video, right after you release the disc and begin to follow thru, your weight will catch up to that front foot, and because you’re now spinning your body due to your pull thru, if you’re really balanced it will just pop up naturally because you’re no longer fighting that forward momentum, your body is just trying to get back to balance over the feet. I hope that helps, just focus on following thru and staying balanced and it should happen naturally!
Awwwwwww snap!
"Oh snap", if you will
Interesting, since I just watched your video on lagging your arm behind your hips I see that you are not doing that here. Disc golf is so simple, and yet, so complicated. 😉
Wish I watched this before the first elevated tee pad I threw from. Group of five let me play through and there I went, no injury just embarrassing
Omg, that scene is now going to be in my nightmares for the next week
dang good video, could use some help lol
Thanks so much man, I hope it did help!