I was shocked by the outcome of this review, being one of the most premium notebook around. Let me know what you think! What would you like me to review next?
If you hear the fan sound of other devices you will feel razer is a better choice no one makes a laptop that has minimum noise with customer requirements every year and why are you comparing gaming notebook with mac, mac is just a expensive notebook with own software, if mac produces gaming laptop, razer would be still no 1 on that
@@sibinrsl7659 I agree, this is one of the quieter notebooks I have tested. That said for the premium you pay, nearly double, I don't believe it is economical. Some will buy this for that feature. My comparison to the MacBook Pro is simply around the speakers and how they sound. Thanks for watching!
Yes that is correct I had the graphs flipped, sorry for the confusion there. I'll adjust them going forward. Looks like you have a great score there. How is the noise?
I sent my laptop for repair, and Razer lost it by accidentally sending it to another customer. They are now offering me the 2070 super 300hz advanced model as a replacement (new) but on their site the 3070 model is less than $100 more, would you say its better to get the 3070 model, by offering to pay the extra $100 myself?
It’s a shame that still there is no perfect all around notebook, there is bits and pieces but no manufacturer has the whole package yet. Maybe in 2021!
I know I am too late and you might not even see this comment but think this has mux switch ( if it's the 300hz panel ) and playing on 1080p and keeping the CPU to low isn't the best decision ( the blade has been updated post ,to give 65w to the CPU ) and all these factors combined I'd say it gives a nice boost to the fps ( always see your GPU utilisation and set your CPU power limit accordingly)
Terrific, comprehensive and honest review without any pandering like other channels. Only one thing i think u didnt talk too much about-- how is the feel of the keyboard? I hear so many ppl say that the key travel is super short, and lacks tactile feedback , and therefore its not fun to play games using it. Thanks and u got a new subscriber mate :)
Thanks for the sub Willy! Much appreciated. In terms of keyboard feel, it was decent. It has the optical triggers, which made it lightening quick. I found that the travel was a bit shallow for my liking, overall, however that is mostly because I use a full mechanical keyboard with plenty of travel, more personal preference.
@@CETechTips thx for answering!! Im thinking of going out to purchase one today tbh... likely the base model, as from ur video results and my general feelings are that the 2080 and 2070 are a tad overkill for the form factor of the laptop. Have u had any experience with the base model, and does it also have optical keyboard switches and similar thermal performance? Thanks!
@@vintagecottonon They are limited due to the the form factor. From what I have read the optical sensors are an add on, but I believe are avaliable in the base unit, just standard on the advanced. I have not personally tested a base unit myself. If you do get one please share your findings!
i don´t know, i just got the 2070 s advanced model and my temps - frames are better than your 2080 s model. Before this one i had the Legion 7i for a month with 10750h, 2070 s and 32 gb ram and that one was running super well, pushing higher frames than this razer but because it was able to handle 20 or more watts more on the gpu, and even doing that on Warzone max setting 1440p it scored 4 frames more than the Razer ( 84 fps razer vs 88 on 7i ). Razer was overall running quieter and cooler tho, so i would say that Razer is a bit conservative on the power management for the specs they put inside, and that comes with pros and cons. I´m quite in love with the build quality and this particular 2070s advanced model i got it brand new from an incredible price of 1791 euros while for the legion 7i paid 2099 euros. Now, next month the legion 5 pro comes out and maybe i will consider changing this razer for that legion but I think I will regret it because of the build quality. What do you think?? Anyway, I must admit that one of the reason why i returned the legion 7i is the build quality, that laptop had incredible specs and the screen was the best at 500 nits but i cannot keep a 2000+ laptop that feels like it's going to break in 5 months of usage
I bought this and I'll think I'll be very happy with the purchase, but it's the 4K OLED version. I'm not sure about how that would affect the review but I'm interested to know what you would think.
I think the you would get a bit better battery life. The 300hz panels are harder on battery. And OLED allows for black pixels to be completely off so they should not draw as much power. I havent reviewed a OLED notebook yet, but my TV is and it is awesome. Everything else would be the same. Thanks for watching!
Overall nice review! 👍🏼 Just some constructive criticism: 9:30 Would be helpful if you made that larger, it’s a bit of a strain to make out. Or perhaps this man’s getting too up there in years. Machinery isn’t as keen as it once was. 😒
Great point to point review 👍 A quick question, I do use almost same games including Dota2, league of legends and some latest game. I also use the laptop for adobe cloud usage like photoshop, ljghroom and premiumpro . Should I buy 2080 maxQ super ($2799) which comes with 1Tb SSD + 16GB or 2070 maxQ super ($2399) which comes with 512Gb SSD + 16GB would be enough for the above usage? Thanks
Hey! Thanks for making such a great video. I purchased the 300 hz 2080 super max q version and I’m already scared. Can you tell me anything about it? Like do you think there’s any chance it will come faulty? I live overseas and there is no razer support here so if it comes with an issue I can’t get it fixed for months, I’m very very scared.
@@rocketleaguewolf5128 could you give a short year later review? did it come broken or anything? I'm in the same situation that you are in and the 2070super version is 1700USD which is a pretty good deal where I'm from (usually 2.9-3.5kusd) should I pull the trigger?
I’m planning to get the Razer Blade Pro 17 soon I’d love to see how it compares to this, I’m wondering if the 17 inch is able to handle the heat better than the 15 inch
The Base Model was a real shock for me. I just opened the internet browser and the fans blow a storm out and getting hot. It is a Hell Razer cant keep it in this unbalanced condition. To spend 1000 more just for the vapor chamber is sick. They should update the cooling issue urgent. I saw there is some space left for bigger fans. Of course Intel should produce cooler chips but thats no excuse to produce a premium laptop that cant handle regular browsing and Idle without running hot and loud. Another issue I had that if you carry the Notebook with one hand you better that care not to destroy your fans cause they will stop and they should also leave some slots on the side to let more airflow in or blow it out so it wont overheat that fast. The speakers are dirt magnets I would agree if the would help with the airflow but you cant clean them and everything looks dirty after few days. I'm not an expert in airflow and cooling but I think the could do it so much better than just blow the air from the back to the screen. The is much potential left. 10 nanometer cpus are coming. Still no sensation but I expect a more quieter experience even in gaming mode as the new ampere chips have a high performance boost that they could integrate a silent mode. In my opinion the fan noise in gaming is still disturbing with no headphones and it's getting that hot that I was afraid to burn. I know a gaming Notebook is not silent while gaming but I'm talking about the overall experience. I also noticed a fan rattling just after 3 weeks. It was the same like I saw on youtube before. I was not that loud but still there. That let me not feel premium, I got more the feeling I have something cheap that will not live long and ends up with a grilled Motherboard Blue Screen Of Death. I'm really sad cause I really like the design and the performance was also fine but too loud and too hot for replacing my Macbook Pro.
I love this laptop! Been thinking about getting it but I wouldn’t be gaming on it... I’d be doing uni work and video editing on Adobe after effects on it. I’m really stuck between this and a MBP 16”! Would love some advice! I currently have a 2012 iMac that’ll I’ll be replacing!!
Forgot to mention that the warranty is only for 1st owner on the country of purchase and its 1 year - on top of that awful experiences and reviews of razer support globally. While everyone else on the market has 2 years warranty on product (not the 1st owner) and its global.
@@CETechTips like every other - GPU core failed on first week of use during Christmas last year. Was brand new but I bought it on business trip in US and then went back home with it to Europe. Disabling RTX 2080 from Windows in recovery mode allows to use it normally. My wife is using it as it is not worth selling razer blade 2019 advanced with 4k oled and fried RTX 2080 because then laptop price is worth shit. There is hundreds of cases with this laptops faulty GPU where they end up on black screen when windows kicks in post bios boot up.
Hi, I wonder if you have any idea about why Razer underperforms with such a high spec? Limited voltage input? Or it is from the outdated driver limited by Synapse?
I updated all the drivers as I thought it could have been that as well. From what I have read they limit the power to fit within the thermals limits they have in place. I felt it had more headroom based on how quiet it was, but no easy way to unlock it. I would not recommend the 2080 in this, it is too limited to get the value.
I already sent the Razer back, however I could look at doing a comparison. I have a few notebooks that I have in the queue for the review. So perhaps after those.
in the video, you complained about the performance of the 2080 super, do you think the performance would be the same or similar if I get the 2070 super?
If it is a non-MaxQ I would say it would be. I have been testinf the 2070 Super in the m17 R3 and it is performing really well, super close to performance of the 2080 Super Max-Q.
@@CETechTips I really love how the razer blade advanced is so thin, but some people have been saying that their laptops' quality control is horrible so I have been looking into some other options, do you know any laptops that have similar performance but thin?
@@spymemes7389 I would look at the Alienware m15 R3. It is slightly thicker at 20mm but I would say the support and quality would be better. Also they have better thermals.
So i have had my heart set on this laptop and have been ready to buy one, nothing else really catches my eye like the vibe this puts off. A few questions, can you play this consistently with it charged in at full settings without the battery dropping. Also do you think it would at least last 2 years? And if i get the 2070 super instead do you think it would perform better than having the 2080 because of the thermals? or if i got the 17in do you think it would be any better as far as thermals ect..?
I didn't notice any battery drop in my testing. It should last you 2 year without issues. However it depends on what you are using it for. If you get this model it will be more thermally throttled. Razer makes there notebook really quite which is nice, but you sacrifice some performance. I have not test the 17in one, but I have seen typically the 17 have better thermal capacity. Hope that helps!
@@CETechTips like can it last for like at least 6 years because I wan to buy one right now and I am in grade 8 and I also wan to use it until university
@@clintonnnah7762 It is possible 6 years is a long time though. You will likely need to replace the battery in that time. I would just get something a bit cheaper and upgrade in 3-4 years. The notebooks in 6 years will likely be 2x better by then.
@@CETechTips and R4 should be in that price range. My thing is that my laptop died so I am in a bit of a hurry to get my self a new one asap. So what would you advise to get for under 3k and from where?
@@julliantadena I heard that you need to use the Razer one. However personally I never tried to charge via the USB C port. Seems strange that it doesn't just work like most laptops.
I was shocked by the outcome of this review, being one of the most premium notebook around. Let me know what you think! What would you like me to review next?
If you hear the fan sound of other devices you will feel razer is a better choice no one makes a laptop that has minimum noise with customer requirements every year and why are you comparing gaming notebook with mac, mac is just a expensive notebook with own software, if mac produces gaming laptop, razer would be still no 1 on that
@@sibinrsl7659 I agree, this is one of the quieter notebooks I have tested. That said for the premium you pay, nearly double, I don't believe it is economical. Some will buy this for that feature. My comparison to the MacBook Pro is simply around the speakers and how they sound. Thanks for watching!
@Nerd_MFer No that is Firestrike Extreme, highest on TimeSpy was 8373 from factory. Nice score by the way.
Yes that is correct I had the graphs flipped, sorry for the confusion there. I'll adjust them going forward. Looks like you have a great score there. How is the noise?
I sent my laptop for repair, and Razer lost it by accidentally sending it to another customer. They are now offering me the 2070 super 300hz advanced model as a replacement (new) but on their site the 3070 model is less than $100 more, would you say its better to get the 3070 model, by offering to pay the extra $100 myself?
While nothing is out yet on the details, I would say it would be worth it for sure.
It's nice to see your channel grow another great review
Thanks for watching!
It’s a shame that still there is no perfect all around notebook, there is bits and pieces but no manufacturer has the whole package yet. Maybe in 2021!
There are still many notebooks to test! I'll keep looking and report back here. Stay tune...
no cap , all I seein is flames, keep up the drip my g
I know I am too late and you might not even see this comment but think this has mux switch ( if it's the 300hz panel ) and playing on 1080p and keeping the CPU to low isn't the best decision ( the blade has been updated post ,to give 65w to the CPU ) and all these factors combined I'd say it gives a nice boost to the fps ( always see your GPU utilisation and set your CPU power limit accordingly)
Terrific, comprehensive and honest review without any pandering like other channels. Only one thing i think u didnt talk too much about-- how is the feel of the keyboard? I hear so many ppl say that the key travel is super short, and lacks tactile feedback , and therefore its not fun to play games using it. Thanks and u got a new subscriber mate :)
Thanks for the sub Willy! Much appreciated. In terms of keyboard feel, it was decent. It has the optical triggers, which made it lightening quick. I found that the travel was a bit shallow for my liking, overall, however that is mostly because I use a full mechanical keyboard with plenty of travel, more personal preference.
@@CETechTips thx for answering!! Im thinking of going out to purchase one today tbh... likely the base model, as from ur video results and my general feelings are that the 2080 and 2070 are a tad overkill for the form factor of the laptop. Have u had any experience with the base model, and does it also have optical keyboard switches and similar thermal performance? Thanks!
@@vintagecottonon They are limited due to the the form factor. From what I have read the optical sensors are an add on, but I believe are avaliable in the base unit, just standard on the advanced. I have not personally tested a base unit myself. If you do get one please share your findings!
disabling Nvidia optimus boost a bit more the frame rates
What resolution you used to the TimeSpy Benchmark? I used demo and It only got 8050. I have the same laptop, except is the one with oled 4k
When playing, did you use nvidia optimus on or off ?
Cuz turning that of will increase performance
i don´t know, i just got the 2070 s advanced model and my temps - frames are better than your 2080 s model. Before this one i had the Legion 7i for a month with 10750h, 2070 s and 32 gb ram and that one was running super well, pushing higher frames than this razer but because it was able to handle 20 or more watts more on the gpu, and even doing that on Warzone max setting 1440p it scored 4 frames more than the Razer ( 84 fps razer vs 88 on 7i ). Razer was overall running quieter and cooler tho, so i would say that Razer is a bit conservative on the power management for the specs they put inside, and that comes with pros and cons. I´m quite in love with the build quality and this particular 2070s advanced model i got it brand new from an incredible price of 1791 euros while for the legion 7i paid 2099 euros. Now, next month the legion 5 pro comes out and maybe i will consider changing this razer for that legion but I think I will regret it because of the build quality. What do you think??
Anyway, I must admit that one of the reason why i returned the legion 7i is the build quality, that laptop had incredible specs and the screen was the best at 500 nits but i cannot keep a 2000+ laptop that feels like it's going to break in 5 months of usage
Look at the newer ROG laptops equipped with AMD chips. They're better value for the money.
Great video! Please review the Blade Studio 2020
I picked up the 2019 2070 model for 1k used on Amazon warehouse, I really like it just hope it doesn’t die on me someday.
That is a good deal, what spec did you get?
@@CETechTips i7 9th gen B2.6 T4.5 16gb, 256SSD.
Upgraded SSD 1TB, 64GB Ram, RTX 2070, 240hz screen.
@@Cooper3312000 awesome that is a great specs for the price!
Update?
Great review, would love to see you review Asus Zephyrus S15 with RTX 2080 Super.
I have one on order, with a 2070 though.
I bought this and I'll think I'll be very happy with the purchase, but it's the 4K OLED version. I'm not sure about how that would affect the review but I'm interested to know what you would think.
I think the you would get a bit better battery life. The 300hz panels are harder on battery. And OLED allows for black pixels to be completely off so they should not draw as much power. I havent reviewed a OLED notebook yet, but my TV is and it is awesome. Everything else would be the same. Thanks for watching!
Overall nice review! 👍🏼
Just some constructive criticism: 9:30 Would be helpful if you made that larger, it’s a bit of a strain to make out.
Or perhaps this man’s getting too up there in years. Machinery isn’t as keen as it once was. 😒
Thanks I have done this for new videos hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
Great point to point review 👍
A quick question, I do use almost same games including Dota2, league of legends and some latest game. I also use the laptop for adobe cloud usage like photoshop, ljghroom and premiumpro .
Should I buy 2080 maxQ super ($2799) which comes with 1Tb SSD + 16GB or 2070 maxQ super ($2399) which comes with 512Gb SSD + 16GB would be enough for the above usage? Thanks
Either would be fine for your use case. Personally I would go with the extra storage and video card.
Hey! Thanks for making such a great video. I purchased the 300 hz 2080 super max q version and I’m already scared. Can you tell me anything about it? Like do you think there’s any chance it will come faulty? I live overseas and there is no razer support here so if it comes with an issue I can’t get it fixed for months, I’m very very scared.
Thanks for watching, I havent had any issues it has been working fine. I hope yours is good when it arrives!
CE Tech Tips wow you replied fast. Thanks, you’ve just earned another subscriber.
Thanks I appreciate it!
@@rocketleaguewolf5128 could you give a short year later review? did it come broken or anything? I'm in the same situation that you are in and the 2070super version is 1700USD which is a pretty good deal where I'm from (usually 2.9-3.5kusd) should I pull the trigger?
I’m planning to get the Razer Blade Pro 17 soon I’d love to see how it compares to this, I’m wondering if the 17 inch is able to handle the heat better than the 15 inch
I can't say for sure yet, however I would think so spec to spec. Typically the 17s can manage the heat a bit better than the 15s.
The Base Model was a real shock for me. I just opened the internet browser and the fans blow a storm out and getting hot. It is a Hell Razer cant keep it in this unbalanced condition. To spend 1000 more just for the vapor chamber is sick. They should update the cooling issue urgent. I saw there is some space left for bigger fans. Of course Intel should produce cooler chips but thats no excuse to produce a premium laptop that cant handle regular browsing and Idle without running hot and loud. Another issue I had that if you carry the Notebook with one hand you better that care not to destroy your fans cause they will stop and they should also leave some slots on the side to let more airflow in or blow it out so it wont overheat that fast. The speakers are dirt magnets I would agree if the would help with the airflow but you cant clean them and everything looks dirty after few days. I'm not an expert in airflow and cooling but I think the could do it so much better than just blow the air from the back to the screen. The is much potential left. 10 nanometer cpus are coming. Still no sensation but I expect a more quieter experience even in gaming mode as the new ampere chips have a high performance boost that they could integrate a silent mode. In my opinion the fan noise in gaming is still disturbing with no headphones and it's getting that hot that I was afraid to burn. I know a gaming Notebook is not silent while gaming but I'm talking about the overall experience. I also noticed a fan rattling just after 3 weeks. It was the same like I saw on youtube before. I was not that loud but still there. That let me not feel premium, I got more the feeling I have something cheap that will not live long and ends up with a grilled Motherboard Blue Screen Of Death. I'm really sad cause I really like the design and the performance was also fine but too loud and too hot for replacing my Macbook Pro.
Thanks for sharing. That is a pretty bad experience overall. With all that I would have returned it for something else.
@@CETechTips Yeah I was a bit sad but the best decision to return and get sth. else. So I keep my eyes open for something else
@@ChrisShine I would suggest you look at the Alienware m15 R3. This is a really solid unit.
@@CETechTips thank you very much I check it out
I love this laptop! Been thinking about getting it but I wouldn’t be gaming on it... I’d be doing uni work and video editing on Adobe after effects on it. I’m really stuck between this and a MBP 16”! Would love some advice! I currently have a 2012 iMac that’ll I’ll be replacing!!
Hmm, well after looking at the MP Air I would do the MBP 16. It is amazing, still need to review it though.
@@CETechTips is the MBP 16 as good as the Razer Blade 15 in the Adobe creative suit??
@@ikryptikzhd5052 Should be similar if you have the same CPU, but I have not tested myself.
@@CETechTips thanks for ur help man! I appreciate it! I just keep changing my mind.... there really is pros and cons of both
Forgot to mention that the warranty is only for 1st owner on the country of purchase and its 1 year - on top of that awful experiences and reviews of razer support globally. While everyone else on the market has 2 years warranty on product (not the 1st owner) and its global.
Sorry to hear that, that is unfortunate. What is not working with your notebook?
@@CETechTips like every other - GPU core failed on first week of use during Christmas last year. Was brand new but I bought it on business trip in US and then went back home with it to Europe.
Disabling RTX 2080 from Windows in recovery mode allows to use it normally.
My wife is using it as it is not worth selling razer blade 2019 advanced with 4k oled and fried RTX 2080 because then laptop price is worth shit.
There is hundreds of cases with this laptops faulty GPU where they end up on black screen when windows kicks in post bios boot up.
@@michup86 Ahh that is too bad, sorry to hear that. That is crazy they won't honor the warranty.
Hi, I wonder if you have any idea about why Razer underperforms with such a high spec? Limited voltage input? Or it is from the outdated driver limited by Synapse?
I updated all the drivers as I thought it could have been that as well. From what I have read they limit the power to fit within the thermals limits they have in place. I felt it had more headroom based on how quiet it was, but no easy way to unlock it. I would not recommend the 2080 in this, it is too limited to get the value.
It's on its way 😁
Good luck with it, you may want to look at undervolting it to get the max performance out of it. It sure is a quiet unit!
@@CETechTips Thanks 👍
I don't have that click on the back on my advanced model tho, maybe it's only a quality issue.
Good to know! Glad yours didn't have it.
Cost aside, what would be a better machine that looks as good?
Aesthetics are the eye of the beholder. However Alienware m15 R3 based on what I tested so far. It out performs this out of the box spec to spec.
Great review ❤
Thanks for watching!
Can you do the razer vs alienware review? I never found any video about this.
I already sent the Razer back, however I could look at doing a comparison. I have a few notebooks that I have in the queue for the review. So perhaps after those.
so essentially, if i am looking for good performance should I look somewhere else?
If you looking for more performance there is better out there for the money is my opinion.
in the video, you complained about the performance of the 2080 super, do you think the performance would be the same or similar if I get the 2070 super?
If it is a non-MaxQ I would say it would be. I have been testinf the 2070 Super in the m17 R3 and it is performing really well, super close to performance of the 2080 Super Max-Q.
@@CETechTips I really love how the razer blade advanced is so thin, but some people have been saying that their laptops' quality control is horrible so I have been looking into some other options, do you know any laptops that have similar performance but thin?
@@spymemes7389 I would look at the Alienware m15 R3. It is slightly thicker at 20mm but I would say the support and quality would be better. Also they have better thermals.
@@CETechTips Thank you so much!
So i have had my heart set on this laptop and have been ready to buy one, nothing else really catches my eye like the vibe this puts off. A few questions, can you play this consistently with it charged in at full settings without the battery dropping. Also do you think it would at least last 2 years? And if i get the 2070 super instead do you think it would perform better than having the 2080 because of the thermals? or if i got the 17in do you think it would be any better as far as thermals ect..?
I didn't notice any battery drop in my testing. It should last you 2 year without issues. However it depends on what you are using it for. If you get this model it will be more thermally throttled. Razer makes there notebook really quite which is nice, but you sacrifice some performance. I have not test the 17in one, but I have seen typically the 17 have better thermal capacity. Hope that helps!
Please review the alienware area 51m r2
Please review the alienware m17 r3. Plus new subscriber
Thank for the sub! I'll add it to my list I have a couple in the queue to review.
@@CETechTips could u do a alienware m17r3 vs Dell g7 17 please. Would make for a good comparison
@@crysis1174 Certainly I'll add them to my list!
How long do u think it will lasts.
How do you mean?
@@CETechTips like can it last for like at least 6 years because I wan to buy one right now and I am in grade 8 and I also wan to use it until university
@@clintonnnah7762 It is possible 6 years is a long time though. You will likely need to replace the battery in that time. I would just get something a bit cheaper and upgrade in 3-4 years. The notebooks in 6 years will likely be 2x better by then.
So what would be the best gamimg laptop I could buy now for lets say around €3000 ? If anyone can help me out?
Alienware was the best performance based on my reviews. The m15 R4 is coming out later this month and I am excited to test it out.
@@CETechTips and R4 should be in that price range. My thing is that my laptop died so I am in a bit of a hurry to get my self a new one asap. So what would you advise to get for under 3k and from where?
Btw thanks for a quick reply. Amazing videos.
@@gicopoli Your welcome thanks for watching!
I guess alienware looks more premium than razer..and razer has a lot of qc issues
In this case the Alienware does beat it out in this round.
How do i charge using the usb c?
It looks like it is possible but I would browse the Razer Forums as it seems it isn't simple at first glance.
@@CETechTips yeah ive seen reviews that they charge it using the usb c. However i tried my macbook air charger and it did not work
@@julliantadena I heard that you need to use the Razer one. However personally I never tried to charge via the USB C port. Seems strange that it doesn't just work like most laptops.
You undervolt it?
I did not on this unit.
Can I add ssd
I have heard the base model has an extra slot, but the advanced model only has one due to the vapor chamber.
I guess he hates the notebook (what is totally understandable, I had several razer blades) 😁
If it was cheaper it would be okay. But at the price level, it is too much.
@@CETechTips believe me it wouldn't. The hardware, costumer service (or whatever the reason for the "blue screen issue is...) is the worst...