300 Winchester Magnum 12 brake comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- This test has 8 of my Beast series brakes compared to 4 from my top competition. My Super Beast brake wasn't designed with a 300 Win mag in mind but it's still a good comparison. Taking a gun with over 54" of free recoil travel and reducing it to about 16" really shows how well the best brakes do at reducing recoil.
Finally a REAL brake test. This imo is way better than what people have been doing with putting them on a swing.
I'm prototype testing tomorrow as well as some new test with more of my competitors brakes. I changed my sled a bunch to lighten the weight so it will be interesting to see how things shake out with the new sled.
VERY interesting video and has given me some food for thought as to which brake I want to order for my .300 Win Mag.
Thanks for the video!
Why did it take so long to come up with this test? I don’t even like muzzle brakes but this is awesome!
Why don't you like muzzle breaks? Never heard of anyone that doesnt like them they literally help so much with recoil and controlling recoil from big cartridges like the 300, 270, and 308
@@skylerhinman6600 feels like your getting punched in the head.. the concussion sucks
@@skylerhinman6600I love muzzle brakes but i’ve had a few people complain about the blast at the range but i tell them to kick rocks or move away from me (they also had high tech ear pro and I only had basic orange ear plugs)
Very goo test. They really make a difference.
Nice comparison -- awesome that you're including both the recoil and velocity (haven't seen anyone else do that). Even better ... Bergers are my go to bullet.
It would be helpful to have a velocity/recoil chart here (or on the website) for a quick reference. At least for me, I'd accept a little higher recoil for less impact to velocity (or ft lbs).
Saw you're also making a titanium version ... can we assume the results would be similar.
Muzzle brakes don't change the velocity or bullet energy. The velocity was actually lower on the shot without brakes compared to those with a brake but none of them were outside of a acceptable range.
Sorry I was on my personal gmail.
you dont happen to have this information in an excel sheet or word document with the names of the brake?
Great rig, thanks for doing this vid!
This pretty much confirms to me that muzzle brakes dont add or deduct muzzle velocity other than what can be explained by normal shot to shot velocity variations and measuring equipment tolerances. Also I'm 100% sold on muzzle brakes now
They all look good. I run a T3 on a 300 RUM, best $300 bucks I’ve ever spent. Any good quality directional brake is a night and day difference.
Great real world test, I need a brake for my 300prc. you sold me on your 5 port.
So now I know, the 5 port Beast brake will make my .338 recoil like a .30-30. I'm in.
LOL Depending on what 338 it is it could be less than that.
My 5 port Big Beast makes my 300win kick less than my heavy 308 chassis gun. See my vid on it.
Where can I order your brakes at?
This is a cool setup.
Got a 300 win mag that would love the 1 inch 5 port brake! Any way to order from you right now? I noticed you were rebuilding your website.
Awesome video! I was wondering you ever tested out a 7mm rem mag? And if the winner of this one was consistent with that caliber?? Looking for one for my 7mm rem mag right now! Thanks!
I will do more testing this next spring. One will be a 7 Rem mag along with a 300PRC, 30 Nosler, 300RUM. Basically if the powder volume or charge weights are relatively close then the performance will be the same. For example a 300PRC only has about 1.5grs more case capacity then a 300wm. So while I will test a 300PRC the results will be the same as a 300wm. There is very little difference between a 7-300wm and a 7 Rem mag so I wouldn't expect any performance difference.
Do you have a link for the first one you used? The 5 port beast brake...I see a few of them online and there are so many variations of it.
Paypaled you the payment for a 1" 5 port beast opened to 30cal. Thanks!!!
Nathan, can I order the 5 port? I have 300 win mag I would like to try it on. Thanks
I'm new to rifles
I'm learning
Please forgive me if this is a stupid question
How does a brake affect the shot? In general. Does it hurt long long range accuracy? Like, beyond say 1250yd? Does it hurt energy on impact?
Does it kick up a lot more dust in the prone position? I'm out here in the Mohave desert. Shooting lanes are typically very dusty.
I want to learn how to shoot, and I want to learn how to make rapid follow up shots. Why? Well, it's fun with a pistol. It was more fun back in the day when I did it with an M16A2. It's even more fun with a 12G.
I figure learning to make rapid follow up shots with a big bolt action rifle ought to be a real hoot and a half!
Also because 🇺🇲Merica🇺🇲
Any shared knowledge/experience is greatly appreciated
It doesn't effect accuracy if installed correctly nor does it change velocity or energy. The ports are parallel to the ground so it doesn't kick up dust. I understand the questions to learn. Everyone has to start somewhere.
Sorry I didn't realize I was on a different account when I answered.
I see this video is 6 years old, how do these compare to the HuDu ? They are claim to shoot a 300 win mag off the chin ?
I haven't tested a HuDu but I'd bet a large stack of cash their percentage of recoil reduction claims are pure BS. Drilled hole brakes dont have the surface area a ported brake has no matter how many holes there are. A flat or slightly cupped baffle/port has a large surface area to counter act recoil. Only about 45 degrees of a round hole does any meaningful work at reducing recoil. Probably only about 1/2 that 45 degrees does anywhere near the work of a flat or cupped brake but that surface area is so small on a drilled hole that it would take at least 12 holes to equal 1 baffle. There are 5 baffles per side on my Beast brake in that video. That would mean the brake would need 120 holes or more to come close. Their pictures show 7 holes per side.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 will find out soon on my 7mm PRC I have spoken with them, apparently a lab has done the testing ? Cheer’s I hope you are wrong 😂🙏 thanks for the reply … might be ordering one from you, should this one be a fail. 👍
I've probably tested more brakes than most anyone and I'm rarely surprised. Good luck with it.
That's a warm 300wm round too
It's really not that warm. Most 300wm's will shoot 210's easily into the 2900's with the slower powders like H-1000, Retumbo, etc and high energy powders like N-570 with go into the 3000's.
very good info here
Can you test some other brakes like an excalibur muzzle brake or one like the one on the ruger Percision 300wm
Has no one noticed his competitors brakes, most of them were not timed? In other words the ports were going up and down to some degree instead of horizontal.
That doesn't change the effectiveness of the brake. It's mere cosmetics in a test like this.
Great video!! How does the EC tuner brake compare to your brakes?
I haven't tested them but since the first port is 90 degrees I doubt they will compare well with my brakes.
Where do we get these muzzle brakes?
just went to your website, 1" 5 port not listed, please advise
I will be working my website over in the next few weeks to include pricing and new brakes not listed on my current site. They discontinued the version of website builder I was using so I can't update my site. I have to build a new one.
Can you show how they stack up vs other brakes like JP howitzer or area 419?
I tested the Area 419 in this video. th-cam.com/video/yNwZNAW0dVA/w-d-xo.html
The JP won't come close to brakes with ports angled back. It has a large surface area to push against but the port size is too big and the baffles are 90 degrees to the muzzle.
what is the best recoil brake for my 300 win mag shooting 180 sst bullets ? want to get a clear second shot with little to no rise.
Big Beast 5 port. My 300win has one and it kicks less than my 308 now. Go to my page here and watch the short vid on it.
awesome video
Thank you.
Great video need to order one just need a gun smith in oc
I have a feeling a precision armament HyperTap would outperform even the best brake in this video.
You'd be wrong. I have a Hypertap and ran it with some prototypes I was testing a couple weeks ago. It's not quite as good as my 4 port Beast.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 - Vid or it didn’t happen.
@@jsl6155 I will put videos up soon now that the weather is better. My prototype video isn't something I let people see.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 - Looking forward to it.
All those brakes are nearly identical
Who offers a brake that will match my #3 contour barrel ,5/8"×24 tactical gray cerakote??
A #3 contour barrel from most manufacturers is only .625 OD at the muzzle. If someone threaded it 5/8x24 then that wasn't very smart. It won't have a shoulder for the brake since the threads are the same diameter as the barrel. If it's a Bartlein then it's like a #4 for everyone else and it's .670" at 26" which is still pretty small for 5/8x24 threads. It barely leaves any shoulder to seat a brake. You won't find a baffled brake that can be turned down that small with 5/8x24 threads. The smallest brake I make in 5/8x24 is .750" OD.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 comes that way direct from Weatherby. 🤔
@@davideustache4119 From what I can find Weatherby's #3 is more like a #5 contour from most aftermarket barrel companies. It should be about .690" @ 26". Matching the OD probably won't happen with a baffled brake from anyone. My smallest OD in 5/8x24 is a Baby Beast which is .750" and can be tapered to your barrel diameter but the whole brake can't be turned down to match it.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 found a MFG in Sheridan Wyoming (Mack's gun works) might go .699 (or smaller)? 🤔 called a "no timer" in matching tactical gray cerakote. I sincerely appreciate your insight. 👍😎
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Can you test the muzzle brake DF 2000 with your bench?
The DF 2000 is a Canadian made brake and basically a copy of a Vias brake. Drilled hole brakes rarely compete with baffle brakes for recoil reduction and they blow dirt all over when shooting prone. I did a test with a drilled hole brake in one of my videos and they lag far behind the better baffled brakes.
Test an Apollo Max break
I have a handful of other brakes to test when it stops raining and actually dries out enough to get out and test. I have several others I need to buy to test but for some reason several people that sell brakes make it hard for me to buy a brake from them. Maybe they dont want the truth to be shown to the public. I will add it to the list of potential brakes to test though.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 awesome. Thanks for the reply. Would love to compare it to your full size beast.
I will do a lot more testing next spring when things aren't frozen. I have numerous calibers I will add like a 6.5PRC, 7 Rem mag, 300wsm, 300PRC, 30 Nosler, 300RUM, 375 Cheytac Imp. I might do a 28 Nosler and 338 Edge as well. There is very little actual difference between many of these caliber when it comes to muzzle brake performance. As the powder capacity goes up for a given caliber the larger brakes with more ports work better. The reason why larger diameter brakes work better, when designed for the caliber, is the baffle wall is larger. That allows gases a larger surface area to counter act recoil.
I do also have a few more brakes to add to the testing and will try to get a few more before spring. I will also do a video with numerous calibers without brakes compared to several calibers with brakes to show the felt recoil of bigger calibers compares to smaller unbroke calibers.
Ive been to your website and would like to purchase a muzzle brake. Currently the site will not allow any purchases. How do I order?
Круто!, я тоже представлял себе такой станок для испытания, но у вас как в лаборатории всё получилось👍 чем больше диаметр тормоза, тем лучше снижает отдачу
Do you have any data on the Weatherby accubrake? Specifically in 300 Win Mag
I had a fat bastard on a 338 lapua..it worked pretty darn well compared to the factory brake
I have shipped to guys in OZ if they get a exporter.
How do these compare to Witt Machine clamp on muzzle brake?
I tested the Witt that came on a 300wm Long Range rifle I bought. It didn't do very well. It was similar to the PVA brake.
Where can I order a brake at? I have a Nosler rifle in 28 Nosler with 175 gr ABLR factory ammo
This is a great video and test set up, thank you for making it easy to understand!
Thanks Shawn. I will have quite a few more videos when the weather cools off. Something about 100 degree heat and wildfire smoke that doesn't motivate me to head out to the desert.
Hi do you sell these ? I’m interested in buying one if you do
Great video! Looking forward to the next comparison or review!
Website didn't work
Guess I'd better get a brake
Will this fir Ruger American magnum?
Hi How do I order
When you reset the machine slide the rifle back to take the free play up. Measurement will be more accurate as the carriage isn't slamming into the pointer taking up energy and easier on your equipment
The pointer weighs ounces, it's aluminum, and the sled with the rifle weighs nearly 25lbs. It won't make a difference. I doubt the pointer drag changes the travel 1/8". It's like hitting a deer with a 6000lb pickup. The deer itself doesn't change the speed of the vehicles, slamming on the brakes does.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 its minimal, but it's there. Either way cool test it I like your setup
@@Kmecha84 I can literally flick the pointer with my finger and it will travel the whole length of the sled. I've never seen a change in the results with it tight against the sled or backed off the sled and I've tested my sled numerous time for consistency.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 cool! I was incorrect 🙂
The terminator does seem to be pointing upward instead of horizontal
The orientation, or the direction of the ports, doesn't change the lateral travel of a brake and the sled. I did use adapters and timed all of my brakes the same for future testing because it seems to bother some people but it doesn't effect the travel of the sled at all. The wheels on the sled are surrounded top and bottom so it rolls the same all the time.
@@muzzlebrakesandmore3492 just curious about effect. I was looking at the Terminator T2 for my .300 win mag. Thank You for the reply.
Those are some really nice brakes.
Thank you
Data!! Love it!!
I'm going to try and get a pressure plate setup going this spring to double up the data.
Just got a 5 port Beast brake for my TC Compass .300 Win Mag and it is absolutely amazing. The recoil reduction is crazy and the accuracy is spot on! Definitely recommend this brake to anyone with a .300 Win Mag
Where do I get one from I can't seem to find a link or anything
@@TheBoogieManNightmare13 go to his website and just send him an email I just ordered a beast brake from him and the thing kicks ass
@@jda4879 does he have a brake that doesn't kick ass? I'm already getting kicked enough.
@@randomidiot8142 no they all kick ass
@@jda4879 but I don't want a kick ass brake. I want one that doesn't kick.
I personally dont see any reason for a brake on a 300 mag. Hell my wife shoots mine and it has no brake